Barry Webb, very interesting update of Turkish propaganda and goals

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Barry Webb former a retired NSA Arabist

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and translator it’s a great opportunity

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I think for all of us to get a chance to

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hear directly what about some of these

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important geopolitical things not to

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mention the the encroachment of Islam on

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Western civilization from somebody with

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experience like yours and you were going

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to talk about turkeys push for offshore

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oil which sounds like quite a threat to

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the people who probably actually

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technically own those waters would that

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be right

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yeah that is correct before I get into

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that I want to go back a little bit to

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North Africa and a sense the whole

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Islamic world has though Spain admit

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turkey their urban lands ambition to

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reestablish this you know the Ottoman

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Empire in the Caliphate is actions in

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that direction are not limited to

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supporting Isis and other terrorist

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movements or at the Siraj government in

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Libya and overt military actions and

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support and whatnot he’s using soap

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operas as a very subtle technique for

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seducing the populations of the Islamic

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world he has for example he is but

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Turkish companies have hired Arabic

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speaking actors and actresses to act out

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stories you know soap operas based on

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the glory days of the Ottoman Empire and

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then they beam these into the Arabic

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speaking countries

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and I I bred an Egyptian editorial

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several months ago about that were they

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pointed that out as one of her big lands

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very subtle techniques for seducing you

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know the Islamic populations into

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glorifying this mythological past of the

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Ottoman Empire and longing for it they

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identify with these see all the

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characters in the soap operas are taken

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from you

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Ottoman history and so the idea is to

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get Islamic people to identify with all

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these various characters you know like

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like Americans did with Dallas on a

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previous decade now here’s a funny thing

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I was watching this TV show that comes

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on a Friday night called Kalia Alayna

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which means leave it to us it’s on

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station that’s caters to Egyptians and

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it’s kind of a variety show and the host

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would bring out either singers or actors

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actresses whatnot and Bishop Schatz may

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miss the music you know stuff like that

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and this one night they had she had on

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the host had this actress from Tunisia

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on and she write all right I came out

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right out and said that she had been

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acting in one of these Turkish you know

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Ottoman Empire soap operas that was her

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gig and she didn’t think anything of it

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you know told me the oblivious about the

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overall political implication to us it

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was a just a game for her so but and

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they’re doing this not the turks are

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doing this not only to the arab arab

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speaking populations but they have

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similar around a broadcast similar raw

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soap operas where they hire art of

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speaking actors actresses or pass

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through speaking actress actresses and

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maybe do the whole skit and then

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broadcast that into afghanistan pakistan

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etc they do this throughout the entire

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Islamic world you seen actors and

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actresses that speak the language of

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that area and the whole idea like I said

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is to seduce these populations into

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idolizing this mythological past so what

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they’ll be more welcome to the idea of

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bringing the Ottoman Empire back oh wow

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so if I I mean I’m actually kind of

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gobsmacked here what you’re saying is

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that air diwan’s

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Turkey has made a series of propaganda

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TV shows formatted like a soap opera

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intended to romanticize

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the era of the Ottoman Empire

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in order to get people to be receptive

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to it when obviously everyone plans to

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try to bring it back yeah exactly I wish

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I wonder if Vlad Tepes has a role there

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because you know maybe they need a

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reminder impaling a few Ottomans there

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they’re always work it wasn’t always fun

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and games for those guys when they were

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invading without robbing and pillaging

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other countries and taking their

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children as Janissaries interesting

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divya have you had a chance to see any

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of these no I haven’t no I’ve just read

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about them and then heard this one

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actress talking about it you know said

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you know she thought nothing of it it’s

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just a gig for include stuff about the

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Janissaries in that oh well if they did

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they would do it in a very positive way

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I mean this is you know the apologist

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answer to that is that these Christian

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families willingly gave up their their

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sons because they knew that they would

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have such a fantastic life you know and

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prestige not working for the Empire and

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actually this is this is taught in

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university Middle Eastern Studies

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classes that way I’m surprised CC allows

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this to be broadcast to Egypt or does he

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well he’s you know what was that again I

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miss producer say I’m kind of surprised

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at LCCC would allow these things to be

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broadcast in Egypt or does he well he

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everything editorials are constantly

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complaining about Egyptian brought I

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mean Turkish broadcast being bayman it

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beamed into Egypt I think I mentioned in

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a previous interview that there’s some

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something like 2,000 Muslim Brotherhood

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media personnel that reside in Turkey

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you know and they’re making up all kinds

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of propaganda stuff not on these soap

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operas but also news reports and stuff

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like that they beam into Egypt over the

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internet you know radio satellite TV etc

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so you know obviously I mean that’s

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we’re not getting this information but

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obviously Turkey is preparing for

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another Ottoman phase and that you know

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here Dhawan is what his worst critic

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States a Diaz yeah hey what what I’m

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trying to get at I guess the point I’m

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trying to make is that he’s working on

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several different levels you know it’s

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not just the the military level like

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he’s doing in North Syria and northern

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Iraq or the sporty of terrorism level

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like he’s doing in Libya it’s you know

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psychological it’s communications the

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media and even soap operas just every

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level that he can think of to try to

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resurrect this thing which brings us to

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the drilling of the oil off the coast of

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Cypress Sierra when thinks his basic you

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know a belief is that every square inch

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of territory that the Ottoman Empire

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once ruled is by rights his well now

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correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t that

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an inherently Islamic idea that any

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territory that’s been Islamic at some

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point is a perpetuity yes legally

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Islamic yes

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yeah and that’s if so Turkey carries had

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over but they’ve also added a

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nationalistic element to it if you need

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to go back to 1974 long before her dough

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and you know when Turkey was a loyal

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NATO ally in 1974 we had another

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president that was involved in

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investigations and a Beechmont talk so

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what a turkey to Cyprus at that time is

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all Greek with a minority of Turks

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scattered hair there the Turks invaded

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Cyprus tried to take whole thing over

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and they ended up showing off the

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northern one-fourth of the country

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exterminating and raping Christians near

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right and left in the process and there

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are local are loyal NATO ally so anyway

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they consider almost I percent away

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reading to be rightfully Ottoman Empire

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territory so we have a right to drill

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full of oil anywhere we want to in that

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sphere of interest but the Greek Cypriot

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government says oh no that’s our intern

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ask

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recognize territorial waters now this

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conflict which has actually been going

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on for a couple of years has led to a

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quasi alliance between Egypt Israel

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Greece and Cyprus oh now I know that is

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real a number of years ago now so quite

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a few years ago but I really was doing

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exercises where there Air Force was

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flying in notice Greek and Cypriot

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airspace I mean what was speculated to

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be rehearsals for a potential attack on

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Iran since the distance of these

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exercises were precisely Israel to Iran

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using using Creek airspace so that’s

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interesting that and it’s a very it

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would be very natural alliance wouldn’t

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it yes yes even though Egypt like each

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of them is what used to be enemies but

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you know when you when you have a common

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enemy Indian you know the enemy of my

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enemy because my friend

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and there are at least less problematic

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than our joint enemy yeah and addition

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to those four countries a number of

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Balkan countries of Eastern Orthodox

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beings are interested in joining that

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alliance to like Romania and Serbia

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interesting so and what is just drilling

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already taking place is there anything

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in the in the world court about it is

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there like on the TV I’ve seen a picture

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of an oil oil rig out there no I’m not

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sure how far along this project is go on

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but I know that you Egypt in israel and

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greece cyprus are you know complaining

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up the kazoo but it might take more than

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a book and then complaints so that’s

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gonna be no they’re interesting dispute

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to watch well indeed thank you very much

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for that update you know what that was

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very informative thank you very much

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