Speculation on problems between China and Canada

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Brad Johnson little follow-up on the

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Brad Johnson little follow-up on the

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Brad Johnson little follow-up on the
piece we did on the potential Chinese

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piece we did on the potential Chinese

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piece we did on the potential Chinese
influence on the failure was a week ago

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influence on the failure was a week ago

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influence on the failure was a week ago
today last Monday where the voice aspect

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today last Monday where the voice aspect

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today last Monday where the voice aspect
of all cell communications candidate was

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of all cell communications candidate was

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of all cell communications candidate was
interfered with some calls worked some

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interfered with some calls worked some

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interfered with some calls worked some
didn’t but overall it was a giant

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didn’t but overall it was a giant

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didn’t but overall it was a giant
disruption in the service and I don’t

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disruption in the service and I don’t

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disruption in the service and I don’t
know if I got a chance to mention this

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know if I got a chance to mention this

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know if I got a chance to mention this
to you or not but the video that you and

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to you or not but the video that you and

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to you or not but the video that you and
I did about this thing about how the

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I did about this thing about how the

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I did about this thing about how the
likely Chinese cause of this cell phone

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likely Chinese cause of this cell phone

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likely Chinese cause of this cell phone
disruption CBC would not allow the link

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disruption CBC would not allow the link

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disruption CBC would not allow the link
to be posted a couple of people tried to

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to be posted a couple of people tried to

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to be posted a couple of people tried to
post a link in their comments and they

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post a link in their comments and they

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post a link in their comments and they
would not Diddy’s or not let it go up or

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would not Diddy’s or not let it go up or

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would not Diddy’s or not let it go up or
they would take it down right away

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they would take it down right away

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they would take it down right away
thought you might find that interesting

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thought you might find that interesting

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thought you might find that interesting
but now it seems that the new story

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but now it seems that the new story

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but now it seems that the new story
today in the news that I think I saw it

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today in the news that I think I saw it

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today in the news that I think I saw it
on Fernando Spencer Fernando I think his

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on Fernando Spencer Fernando I think his

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on Fernando Spencer Fernando I think his
name is great Canadian journalist one of

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name is great Canadian journalist one of

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name is great Canadian journalist one of
the few left and that several Chinese

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the few left and that several Chinese

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the few left and that several Chinese
researchers had been removed from

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researchers had been removed from

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researchers had been removed from
Canada’s only level 4 bio lab it’s in

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Canada’s only level 4 bio lab it’s in

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Canada’s only level 4 bio lab it’s in
Winnipeg against and wondered what you

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Winnipeg against and wondered what you

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Winnipeg against and wondered what you
had to say about that yeah I think it’s

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had to say about that yeah I think it’s

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had to say about that yeah I think it’s
interesting I mean and now just provided

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interesting I mean and now just provided

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interesting I mean and now just provided
the same base for everybody what I was

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the same base for everybody what I was

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the same base for everybody what I was
doing last time was speculating that

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doing last time was speculating that

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doing last time was speculating that
there might be linkage between the

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there might be linkage between the

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there might be linkage between the
arrests of the CFO from Huawei who’s

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arrests of the CFO from Huawei who’s

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arrests of the CFO from Huawei who’s
still being held in Canada under house

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still being held in Canada under house

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still being held in Canada under house
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arrest awaiting extradition to the

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arrest awaiting extradition to the
United States and and by the way Huawei

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United States and and by the way Huawei

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United States and and by the way Huawei
absolutely is associated with the

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absolutely is associated with the

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absolutely is associated with the
Chinese government and intelligence and

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Chinese government and intelligence and

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Chinese government and intelligence and
so on so they’re one of the

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so on so they’re one of the

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so on so they’re one of the
organizations it’s definitely operating

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organizations it’s definitely operating

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organizations it’s definitely operating
for China behind the scenes intelligence

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for China behind the scenes intelligence

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for China behind the scenes intelligence
methods and so on and helping to scarf

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methods and so on and helping to scarf

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methods and so on and helping to scarf
up technology that can be used in China

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up technology that can be used in China

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up technology that can be used in China
so they’ll you know lie cheat steal to

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so they’ll you know lie cheat steal to

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so they’ll you know lie cheat steal to
get what they want and huawei’s

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get what they want and huawei’s

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get what they want and huawei’s
knee-deep in that at least so maybe even

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knee-deep in that at least so maybe even

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knee-deep in that at least so maybe even
shendi so I was speculating that this

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shendi so I was speculating that this

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shendi so I was speculating that this
was a way China has tried a couple of

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was a way China has tried a couple of

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was a way China has tried a couple of
times to pressure Canada on

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times to pressure Canada on

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times to pressure Canada on
this issue and I was speculating that

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this issue and I was speculating that

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this issue and I was speculating that
perhaps this phone outage a very defined

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perhaps this phone outage a very defined

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perhaps this phone outage a very defined
thing both in the length of time and the

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thing both in the length of time and the

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thing both in the length of time and the
scope of what was interfering with was

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scope of what was interfering with was

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scope of what was interfering with was
very defined so I find it unusual that

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very defined so I find it unusual that

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very defined so I find it unusual that
all of the Canadian companies large and

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all of the Canadian companies large and

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all of the Canadian companies large and
small at once who provide cell phone

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small at once who provide cell phone

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small at once who provide cell phone
service lost voice so you can still text

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service lost voice so you can still text

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service lost voice so you can still text
but not not call and speak so I I just I

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but not not call and speak so I I just I

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but not not call and speak so I I just I
find that very unusual in coincidence in

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find that very unusual in coincidence in

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find that very unusual in coincidence in
my line of work you become very

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my line of work you become very

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my line of work you become very
suspicious of coincidence after only a

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suspicious of coincidence after only a

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suspicious of coincidence after only a
couple of stack-up you start to look at

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couple of stack-up you start to look at

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couple of stack-up you start to look at
it and go well this is causal somebody’s

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it and go well this is causal somebody’s

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it and go well this is causal somebody’s
doing this this is tit for tat there’s a

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doing this this is tit for tat there’s a

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doing this this is tit for tat there’s a
problem so I’m building on that

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problem so I’m building on that

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problem so I’m building on that
speculation now and of course this is

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speculation now and of course this is

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speculation now and of course this is
speculation i I haven’t received even

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speculation i I haven’t received even

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speculation i I haven’t received even
what I would look at from an

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what I would look at from an

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what I would look at from an
intelligence perspective of as

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intelligence perspective of as

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intelligence perspective of as
confirmation of any of this yet but now

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confirmation of any of this yet but now

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confirmation of any of this yet but now
we suddenly have two Chinese that were

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we suddenly have two Chinese that were

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we suddenly have two Chinese that were
working in this level for a viral

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working in this level for a viral

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working in this level for a viral
biology lab where which is that’s the

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biology lab where which is that’s the

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biology lab where which is that’s the
top level really bad stuff Ebola all of

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top level really bad stuff Ebola all of

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top level really bad stuff Ebola all of
those sorts of things the really deadly

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those sorts of things the really deadly

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those sorts of things the really deadly
stuff was kept in that lab and suddenly

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stuff was kept in that lab and suddenly

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stuff was kept in that lab and suddenly
a Chinese man and woman and Chinese

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a Chinese man and woman and Chinese

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a Chinese man and woman and Chinese
students were University students were

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students were University students were

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students were University students were
were kicked out of this lab no longer

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were kicked out of this lab no longer

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were kicked out of this lab no longer
allowed access and the staff employees

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allowed access and the staff employees

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allowed access and the staff employees
who are still there have been told no

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who are still there have been told no

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who are still there have been told no
contact with those people the Chinese

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contact with those people the Chinese

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contact with those people the Chinese
had have all been kicked out now that’s

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had have all been kicked out now that’s

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had have all been kicked out now that’s
an unusual move so there’s and and you

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an unusual move so there’s and and you

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an unusual move so there’s and and you
would have to assume that the couple and

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would have to assume that the couple and

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would have to assume that the couple and
the chaining students kind of originated

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the chaining students kind of originated

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the chaining students kind of originated
from separate places I’m sure they were

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from separate places I’m sure they were

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from separate places I’m sure they were
all they all knew each other and work

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all they all knew each other and work

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all they all knew each other and work
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together and so on and would have been

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together and so on and would have been
easily cooperating with Chinese

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easily cooperating with Chinese

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easily cooperating with Chinese
intelligence I find it unlikely under

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intelligence I find it unlikely under

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intelligence I find it unlikely under
the circumstances because of their

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the circumstances because of their

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the circumstances because of their
separate origins that they would be say

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separate origins that they would be say

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separate origins that they would be say
terrorist type related thing in any way

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terrorist type related thing in any way

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terrorist type related thing in any way
and so them stealing samples of these

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and so them stealing samples of these

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and so them stealing samples of these
things or information out of the labs

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things or information out of the labs

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things or information out of the labs
and all that that would lead to any sort

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and all that that would lead to any sort

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and all that that would lead to any sort
of national security threat for Canada I

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of national security threat for Canada I

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of national security threat for Canada I
find that unlikely in the sense of an

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find that unlikely in the sense of an

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find that unlikely in the sense of an
attack or being used for an attack so

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attack or being used for an attack so

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attack or being used for an attack so
really that’s it’s Occam’s razor which I

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really that’s it’s Occam’s razor which I

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really that’s it’s Occam’s razor which I
often mentioned the simplest possibility

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often mentioned the simplest possibility

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often mentioned the simplest possibility
that fits the facts is that they were

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that fits the facts is that they were

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that fits the facts is that they were
working with Chinese and and the

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working with Chinese and and the

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working with Chinese and and the
Canadians were one way or another

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Canadians were one way or another

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Canadians were one way or another
this and now this is the the tit for tat

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this and now this is the the tit for tat

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this and now this is the the tit for tat
we’ve got the Huawei CFO being held

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we’ve got the Huawei CFO being held

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we’ve got the Huawei CFO being held
multiple times pressure has been put on

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multiple times pressure has been put on

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multiple times pressure has been put on
Canada including perhaps this latest

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Canada including perhaps this latest

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Canada including perhaps this latest
cyber type attack into the telephone say

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cyber type attack into the telephone say

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cyber type attack into the telephone say
of a telephone system in Canada and then

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of a telephone system in Canada and then

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of a telephone system in Canada and then
now this now this is not I understand

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now this now this is not I understand

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now this now this is not I understand
this is not Trudeau’s normal mo you know

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this is not Trudeau’s normal mo you know

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this is not Trudeau’s normal mo you know
he’s not a tough guy

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he’s not a tough guy

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he’s not a tough guy
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closer to pyjama boy than tough guy and

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closer to pyjama boy than tough guy and
but yet this would be a sort of behind

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but yet this would be a sort of behind

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but yet this would be a sort of behind
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the scenes he’s not confronting the

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the scenes he’s not confronting the
Chinese openly but this would be a good

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Chinese openly but this would be a good

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Chinese openly but this would be a good
way to kind of confront them if he if he

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way to kind of confront them if he if he

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way to kind of confront them if he if he
were convinced that the phone problem

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were convinced that the phone problem

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were convinced that the phone problem
was of Chinese cause that this would be

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was of Chinese cause that this would be

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was of Chinese cause that this would be
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a kind of behind-the-scenes answer he’s

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a kind of behind-the-scenes answer he’s
responding and and certainly the Royal

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responding and and certainly the Royal

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responding and and certainly the Royal
Canin Police who I believe would be the

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Canin Police who I believe would be the

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Canin Police who I believe would be the
authority for this type of thing for

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authority for this type of thing for

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authority for this type of thing for
Canada probably would have looked at

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Canada probably would have looked at

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Canada probably would have looked at
this and said well we need to respond

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this and said well we need to respond

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this and said well we need to respond
somehow and so this would be a way that

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somehow and so this would be a way that

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somehow and so this would be a way that
it could have been done so as again as I

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it could have been done so as again as I

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it could have been done so as again as I
said it’s speculative but it would make

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said it’s speculative but it would make

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said it’s speculative but it would make
sense in the scheme of things why the

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sense in the scheme of things why the

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sense in the scheme of things why the
timing is unusual

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timing is unusual

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timing is unusual
one week after or even six days after

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one week after or even six days after

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one week after or even six days after
the the phone problems that took place

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the the phone problems that took place

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the the phone problems that took place
and now these guys kicked out so even if

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and now these guys kicked out so even if

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and now these guys kicked out so even if
it weren’t done on purpose the Chinese

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it weren’t done on purpose the Chinese

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it weren’t done on purpose the Chinese
might look at it like that if they were

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might look at it like that if they were

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might look at it like that if they were
involved in the phone problem they’re

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involved in the phone problem they’re

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involved in the phone problem they’re
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going to view this as a response from

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going to view this as a response from
Canada even if it wasn’t intended so if

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Canada even if it wasn’t intended so if

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Canada even if it wasn’t intended so if
as I said they had been involved in this

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as I said they had been involved in this

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as I said they had been involved in this
what may have been a cyber attack on the

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what may have been a cyber attack on the

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what may have been a cyber attack on the
Canadian phone system so but again I

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Canadian phone system so but again I

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Canadian phone system so but again I
would tend to speculate you know usually

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would tend to speculate you know usually

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would tend to speculate you know usually
these things getting too far out there I

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these things getting too far out there I

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these things getting too far out there I
mean usually it’s the simple

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mean usually it’s the simple

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mean usually it’s the simple
explanations the right one and so far it

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explanations the right one and so far it

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explanations the right one and so far it
kind of looks that way that it’s it’s

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kind of looks that way that it’s it’s

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kind of looks that way that it’s it’s
stacking up and now we can have

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stacking up and now we can have

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stacking up and now we can have
coincidence after coincidence after

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coincidence after coincidence after

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coincidence after coincidence after
coincidence which as I said after a

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coincidence which as I said after a

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coincidence which as I said after a
while it’s certainly in the intelligence

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while it’s certainly in the intelligence

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while it’s certainly in the intelligence
business you look at it as causal not

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business you look at it as causal not

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business you look at it as causal not
coincidence so I wouldn’t be surprised

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coincidence so I wouldn’t be surprised

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coincidence so I wouldn’t be surprised
if if that’s what we see happening here

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if if that’s what we see happening here

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if if that’s what we see happening here
and this was a very quiet response by

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and this was a very quiet response by

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and this was a very quiet response by
the Canadians

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the Canadians

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the Canadians
to throw these people out now what

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to throw these people out now what

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to throw these people out now what
happens to going forward are these P

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happens to going forward are these P

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happens to going forward are these P
then going to be held for some sort of

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then going to be held for some sort of

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then going to be held for some sort of
prosecution have they done something

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prosecution have they done something

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prosecution have they done something
illegal if they’re leaking secrets if

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illegal if they’re leaking secrets if

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illegal if they’re leaking secrets if
there’s classified information in this

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there’s classified information in this

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there’s classified information in this
lab which they’re you know probably is I

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lab which they’re you know probably is I

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lab which they’re you know probably is I
wouldn’t be surprised don’t know what

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wouldn’t be surprised don’t know what

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wouldn’t be surprised don’t know what
level of those things would be but

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level of those things would be but

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level of those things would be but
certainly this isn’t the type of thing

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certainly this isn’t the type of thing

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certainly this isn’t the type of thing
you want roaming around in the public

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you want roaming around in the public

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you want roaming around in the public
about these type of diseases that are so

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about these type of diseases that are so

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about these type of diseases that are so
very deadly so it would be a and be

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very deadly so it would be a and be

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very deadly so it would be a and be
interesting to see how this unfolds if

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interesting to see how this unfolds if

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interesting to see how this unfolds if
they’re just sent back to China maybe

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they’re just sent back to China maybe

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they’re just sent back to China maybe
that’s a peace gesture I don’t know but

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that’s a peace gesture I don’t know but

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that’s a peace gesture I don’t know but
this this is going to continue to unfold

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this this is going to continue to unfold

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this this is going to continue to unfold
certainly the huawei CFO who’s being

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certainly the huawei CFO who’s being

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certainly the huawei CFO who’s being
held in Canada is a very very big deal

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held in Canada is a very very big deal

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held in Canada is a very very big deal
for the Chinese something you and I have

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for the Chinese something you and I have

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for the Chinese something you and I have
discussed multiple times and interviews

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discussed multiple times and interviews

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discussed multiple times and interviews
so the China the Chinese view this is a

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so the China the Chinese view this is a

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so the China the Chinese view this is a
big deal and that that phone response

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big deal and that that phone response

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big deal and that that phone response
would be up you know kind of a an

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would be up you know kind of a an

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would be up you know kind of a an
appropriate response from the Chinese

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appropriate response from the Chinese

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appropriate response from the Chinese
perspective to fire a warning shot

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perspective to fire a warning shot

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perspective to fire a warning shot
across the bow which I think with the

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across the bow which I think with the

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across the bow which I think with the
current leadership that you have in

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current leadership that you have in

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current leadership that you have in
Canada that type of thing is probably

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Canada that type of thing is probably

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Canada that type of thing is probably
fairly effective as I said Trudeau isn’t

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fairly effective as I said Trudeau isn’t

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fairly effective as I said Trudeau isn’t
the type of guy that’s gonna fire back

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the type of guy that’s gonna fire back

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the type of guy that’s gonna fire back
like that would be precisely the wrong

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like that would be precisely the wrong

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like that would be precisely the wrong
tactic to use would say president United

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tactic to use would say president United

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tactic to use would say president United
States on Trump who would just

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States on Trump who would just

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States on Trump who would just
absolutely go ballistic and have some

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absolutely go ballistic and have some

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absolutely go ballistic and have some
sort of counter punch

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sort of counter punch

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sort of counter punch
whereas Trudeau as I said closer to the

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whereas Trudeau as I said closer to the

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whereas Trudeau as I said closer to the
Jama boy than tough guy we tend to

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Jama boy than tough guy we tend to

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Jama boy than tough guy we tend to
buckle under those sorts of pressure or

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buckle under those sorts of pressure or

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buckle under those sorts of pressure or
not respond try to cover it up and hide

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not respond try to cover it up and hide

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not respond try to cover it up and hide
from the issue so I think it’s

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from the issue so I think it’s

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from the issue so I think it’s
interesting and perhaps speculation is

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interesting and perhaps speculation is

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interesting and perhaps speculation is
getting a little out there on this one

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getting a little out there on this one

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getting a little out there on this one
but if you just look at the connections

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but if you just look at the connections

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but if you just look at the connections
and stuff at all of those seem you know

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and stuff at all of those seem you know

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and stuff at all of those seem you know
mildly tied together so if this is the

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mildly tied together so if this is the

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mildly tied together so if this is the
case I think when being predictive now

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case I think when being predictive now

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case I think when being predictive now
if what I’m suggesting is is true

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if what I’m suggesting is is true

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if what I’m suggesting is is true
there’s going to be another response

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there’s going to be another response

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there’s going to be another response
somehow out of China and so far if this

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somehow out of China and so far if this

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somehow out of China and so far if this
is what’s going on it’s all being kept

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is what’s going on it’s all being kept

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is what’s going on it’s all being kept
as a non-public spat and so I think it

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as a non-public spat and so I think it

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as a non-public spat and so I think it
would continue in that vein so if we see

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would continue in that vein so if we see

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would continue in that vein so if we see
something else out of China so possibly

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something else out of China so possibly

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something else out of China so possibly
that’s all about Canada then I would

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that’s all about Canada then I would

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that’s all about Canada then I would
start to begin you know to take these

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start to begin you know to take these

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start to begin you know to take these
things as calm

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things as calm

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things as calm
mansions so that would be hit I would

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mansions so that would be hit I would

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mansions so that would be hit I would
expect and you know the next month

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expect and you know the next month

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expect and you know the next month
there’s two or something like that some

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there’s two or something like that some

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there’s two or something like that some
sort of response out of China if if this

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sort of response out of China if if this

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sort of response out of China if if this
is indeed as something that’s building

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is indeed as something that’s building

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is indeed as something that’s building
well guess looking at Trudeau’s history

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well guess looking at Trudeau’s history

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well guess looking at Trudeau’s history
it’s it’s non-action mostly I mean if he

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it’s it’s non-action mostly I mean if he

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it’s it’s non-action mostly I mean if he
takes any accidents against old stock

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takes any accidents against old stock

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takes any accidents against old stock
Canadians I think he calls them us yes

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Canadians I think he calls them us yes

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Canadians I think he calls them us yes
and the the other thing is that well

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and the the other thing is that well

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and the the other thing is that well
yeah if you add up if you add up what

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yeah if you add up if you add up what

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yeah if you add up if you add up what
seems to have happened last week with

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seems to have happened last week with

451
00:09:21,880 –> 00:09:24,440
seems to have happened last week with
this and again this lab contained

452
00:09:24,440 –> 00:09:24,450
this and again this lab contained

453
00:09:24,450 –> 00:09:28,079
this and again this lab contained
samples of Ebola get other highly

454
00:09:28,079 –> 00:09:28,089
samples of Ebola get other highly

455
00:09:28,089 –> 00:09:31,920
samples of Ebola get other highly
virulent very very dangerous diseases

456
00:09:31,920 –> 00:09:31,930
virulent very very dangerous diseases

457
00:09:31,930 –> 00:09:34,970
virulent very very dangerous diseases
so it’s like not a small thing that

458
00:09:34,970 –> 00:09:34,980
so it’s like not a small thing that

459
00:09:34,980 –> 00:09:37,199
so it’s like not a small thing that
these particular greed this is not a

460
00:09:37,199 –> 00:09:37,209
these particular greed this is not a

461
00:09:37,209 –> 00:09:39,480
these particular greed this is not a
small thing this kid this is reasonably

462
00:09:39,480 –> 00:09:39,490
small thing this kid this is reasonably

463
00:09:39,490 –> 00:09:42,269
small thing this kid this is reasonably
significant and it has the potential to

464
00:09:42,269 –> 00:09:42,279
significant and it has the potential to

465
00:09:42,279 –> 00:09:45,660
significant and it has the potential to
be very dangerous and also if by

466
00:09:45,660 –> 00:09:45,670
be very dangerous and also if by

467
00:09:45,670 –> 00:09:47,340
be very dangerous and also if by
stealing all that information whatever’s

468
00:09:47,340 –> 00:09:47,350
stealing all that information whatever’s

469
00:09:47,350 –> 00:09:49,110
stealing all that information whatever’s
Canada is working on and I assume that’s

470
00:09:49,110 –> 00:09:49,120
Canada is working on and I assume that’s

471
00:09:49,120 –> 00:09:51,000
Canada is working on and I assume that’s
probably done in conjunction with the

472
00:09:51,000 –> 00:09:51,010
probably done in conjunction with the

473
00:09:51,010 –> 00:09:52,410
probably done in conjunction with the
United States we have a very active

474
00:09:52,410 –> 00:09:52,420
United States we have a very active

475
00:09:52,420 –> 00:09:54,689
United States we have a very active
program in that I don’t know but that

476
00:09:54,689 –> 00:09:54,699
program in that I don’t know but that

477
00:09:54,699 –> 00:09:56,040
program in that I don’t know but that
would be logical for it to take place

478
00:09:56,040 –> 00:09:56,050
would be logical for it to take place

479
00:09:56,050 –> 00:09:58,350
would be logical for it to take place
that would be a a window into the entire

480
00:09:58,350 –> 00:09:58,360
that would be a a window into the entire

481
00:09:58,360 –> 00:10:00,360
that would be a a window into the entire
program out of Canada where they could

482
00:10:00,360 –> 00:10:00,370
program out of Canada where they could

483
00:10:00,370 –> 00:10:02,430
program out of Canada where they could
they could siphon off information or

484
00:10:02,430 –> 00:10:02,440
they could siphon off information or

485
00:10:02,440 –> 00:10:05,400
they could siphon off information or
data or samples and so on it and stop to

486
00:10:05,400 –> 00:10:05,410
data or samples and so on it and stop to

487
00:10:05,410 –> 00:10:07,620
data or samples and so on it and stop to
can’t attack China rather and that would

488
00:10:07,620 –> 00:10:07,630
can’t attack China rather and that would

489
00:10:07,630 –> 00:10:09,930
can’t attack China rather and that would
advance their their own program by a

490
00:10:09,930 –> 00:10:09,940
advance their their own program by a

491
00:10:09,940 –> 00:10:12,360
advance their their own program by a
little bit or even confirm or give them

492
00:10:12,360 –> 00:10:12,370
little bit or even confirm or give them

493
00:10:12,370 –> 00:10:15,000
little bit or even confirm or give them
other details to kind of broaden their

494
00:10:15,000 –> 00:10:15,010
other details to kind of broaden their

495
00:10:15,010 –> 00:10:19,290
other details to kind of broaden their
their overall the overall program thank

496
00:10:19,290 –> 00:10:19,300
their overall the overall program thank

497
00:10:19,300 –> 00:10:20,850
their overall the overall program thank
you very much Fred Johnson I guess

498
00:10:20,850 –> 00:10:20,860
you very much Fred Johnson I guess

499
00:10:20,860 –> 00:10:22,860
you very much Fred Johnson I guess
chances are good that we’ll be talking

500
00:10:22,860 –> 00:10:22,870
chances are good that we’ll be talking

501
00:10:22,870 –> 00:10:24,329
chances are good that we’ll be talking
about this again in the next week or two

502
00:10:24,329 –> 00:10:24,339
about this again in the next week or two

503
00:10:24,339 –> 00:10:30,110
about this again in the next week or two
I suspect so thank you

504
00:10:30,110 –> 00:10:30,120

505
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506
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507
00:10:36,760 –> 00:10:39,889
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