November 9, 2019

Christopher McDonald, The McFiles interview with Former NSA Spy Barry Webb With Late October Update On Middle East, MORE

 

 

 
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most of you have heard Barry Webb by
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often he’s don’t been on our show around
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three or four times I think this would
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be like his fifth interview with us I’ll
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just tell you ahead of time this is a
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little dated we’ve recorded this about
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three and a half weeks ago is right
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after President Trump announced the
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pullout of Syria of US troops and we got
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to talk with Barry about it and he had
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some insight and his insight may not be
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what a lot of us may want to hear
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I’ve got somewhat of a difference of
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opinion about the end result of this
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I’ve got a little bit more faith that
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President Trump did the right thing I
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want to say that al-baghdadi had not
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been killed when this interview was
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recorded with Barry we’re gonna have
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Barry back home soon my schedule has
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just been crazy as this his but I want
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to get him back on to talk about the
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actual death of al-baghdadi the number
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one and number two of Isis but this this
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interview took place just a few days
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before that now the interview is about
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50 some-odd minutes I’m not gonna play
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the interview through the whole thing
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because a lot of the stuff that he talks
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about we’re gonna say for another time
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but I’m gonna try to come back on at
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some point and take questions tonight
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from the audience from the Thursday
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night now tomorrow night we’ve got Sean
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post who will be a great early bird
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special guest tomorrow and then we’ve
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got the Friday night wrap-up show coming
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up tomorrow night around 9:00 Sean’s
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interview will probably be around five
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o’clock or
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early bird special tomorrow and Friday
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usually how we do it and then we’ve got
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the wrap-up show tomorrow night
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so we’ll probably take more questions
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from you tomorrow night then we do
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tonight but we will be taking questions
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at the end of this interview would Barry
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just for a few minutes not a lot but
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just a few we had a great interview
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tonight with mike boorda Mike at 7:00 we
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encourage you to go back and listen to
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that interview and I’m not sure who the
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individual us tonight that sent me a
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note telling me that I’m a whiny person
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or something like that are they watching
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the same show I don’t whine we don’t
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whine here on the Mac files we’re the
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most passionate upbeat individual you’ll
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ever get I don’t know if you’re watching
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another show but there’s no whining
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there’s no crying in baseball and
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there’s no crying on the Mac files and
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if we just speak truth and we speak it
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in a way that’s a little bit exhorting
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and not there’s Rara cheerleader stuff
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and I guess that’s what you call twine
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and I guess so bit but I had to shake my
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head on that one as I shake my head on a
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lot of things I hear every day on this
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show after the show and I just I just
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have to laugh at that I’m sorry I had to
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laugh when I read that like I laugh at
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everything but you’re not gonna laugh at
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Barry Webb because he’s a great guy he’s
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a great Patriot and we’re glad that
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we’ve got to begin tonight on the Mac
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Files late-night broadcasts on this
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Thursday night November the 7th we’ll
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make an announcement tonight I’ll
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mention it a little bit after the
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afterthought we’re gonna have a very
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special Monday presentation for Veterans
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Day probably going to do it Monday
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morning Monday the 11th we honor our
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veterans here in the country Memorial
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Day is for those that have passed and
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have been killed in service veterans day
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and today we honor our living veterans
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and we’re going to do just that Monday
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we encourage you to be with us and you
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don’t want to miss it we always try to
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put a very moving presentation together
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last couple of times we’ve tried to do
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something like that we’ve always said
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internet problems we’re gonna be home
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Monday so we shouldn’t have any problems
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with that one and you’ll enjoy it and we
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encourage them to stay with
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so many times to be announced but right
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now probably early morning around eight
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or nine o’clock or so we’ll play that
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maybe ten at the latest but you’ll see
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it Monday to honor our veterans ahead of
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time so just keep that date in mind
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Monday the 11th of November is Veterans
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Day 2019 we got a veteran coming on
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tomorrow night Sean toast is gonna be
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talking to us she’s affectionately known
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there’s the black wolf in the chat room
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and she’s one of our moderators as well
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and we appreciate Sean but we’re gonna
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be talking about some deep stuff
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tomorrow night you don’t want to miss at
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7 o’clock
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let me change that 5 o’clock Eastern 5
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o’clock Eastern early bird and then the
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wrap-up show tomorrow night we’ll make
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up for lost time that we didn’t get to
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last Friday night because we were
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traveling to Philly but you don’t want
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to miss it and we hope you enjoy this
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interview with Barry Webb again please
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before I get a million questions why is
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this sounding dated it’s sounding dated
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because we did it about three and a half
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weeks ago and just with all the news and
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all the stuff that’s been breaking I’ve
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really haven’t had a chance to air it
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until tonight but I felt led to do it on
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this Thursday night you’ll enjoy Barry
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11:00 to death he’s a great Patriot and
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he had just had some surgery after this
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interview and I do appreciate him taking
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the time to interview with us I’m gonna
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stop talking so you can hear Barry Webb
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and me we’ll be back after the show with
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a few thoughts and some other things
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here’s very web on the Mac files tonight
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it’s so good so good to see everybody
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tonight enjoy this be blessed everybody
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we’ll be right back after the show
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good evening I’m Chris McDonald
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MacPhail’s broadcast we’re always
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honored to have a dear new friend of
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we’ve come to know for last you must
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very well xans a spa author of a great
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book Confessions of an ex a nice si spa
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how we are losing the war on terror here
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in America berry always a pleasure but
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if we had your interviews we played
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there’s not been one we played that
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we’ve not gotten just tremendous
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tremendous response from and I want to
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say thank you for that just glad to see
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you tonight and I know you’ve been
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having some physical issues we won’t get
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into publicly but just glad to see you
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among the living and glad to have you
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back on the macfoster now I’ve got a lot
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to talk about some interesting stuff to
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talk about too good to have you guys
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first of all thank you for having me and
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for sophistical is yeah I feel great
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except for a certain part of my body
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[Laughter]
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that broke just now get it but it is
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good to see but I’m glad you find and I
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Europe Bobby even evolved part of our
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show ever since Brad connected us I
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really look far to our chats and it’s
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really good to have you I’m looking
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forward to this tonight well without
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doubt I do want to start off with the
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latest news that are going on then we’re
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gonna deal with something to happen a
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couple years ago in Vegas but the big
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news is Turkey Syria President Trump
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announced this past week as we’re doing
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this just a few days ago but we’ll
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probably air in a few days after the
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fact but he’s pulling his troops out of
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Syria US troops a lot of people went
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crazy over that the left always does
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these war mongers always do and maybe
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that’s a strong word but it just seems
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to me that whenever America tries to
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make peace and get away from the the
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bloodshed and take our fellows out of
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this it seems everybody wants to go
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crazy and I don’t think Trump is stupid
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very I don’t think he’s that naive to
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believe that you know that it’s gonna be
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a cakewalk over there look at the Middle
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East is such a complicated place we’ve
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talked about it a million times when I
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showed me and you and there’s so many
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like
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theories that go into these decisions
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and I’m gonna get your take on it a
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little bit but I just personally you
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know me ultimately be proven wrong
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I personally believe is right call long
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term now as far as the timing of it and
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how its executed you know what
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presidents are not perfect they’re gonna
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get things wrong I guess it remains to
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be seen I personally don’t put as much
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faith in Turkey as maybe the president’s
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doing right now and they’ve showed their
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colors already launch of these
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airstrikes in northern Syria and again
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you’re an expert in this and I’d like to
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get your take on it but I just believe
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that ultimately it may be proven to be
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the right decision for the sake of our
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boys maybe you know and if Isis rears
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his head Barry then we as president
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Truong said we go bomb be turned out of
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him promised to do on the campaign trail
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he just used a different word than turd
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for it but he said we’re gonna bomb him
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to smithereens if they really read again
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what’s your thoughts on that not to be
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able to see my thoughts are a little bit
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different than yours in that dome and
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it’s not just the left that has been
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riding on Trump over this the a good
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part of the right in a lot of his allies
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I have been doing the same thing and the
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reason is that Turks ambition is not to
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defeat Isis because they actually you
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know put Isis together and Isis became a
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tool of Turkish Foreign Policy their
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ambitions in Turkey is to exterminate as
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many Kurds Christians and new cities as
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they can find to explain how this works
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ought to go back to last fall it was in
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December when Trump got a phone call for
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murder ban yes and convinced Trump that
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he would take care of Isis and at that
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time Trump announced that he was gonna
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pull the troops out and there was
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big hubbub ooh about that James Madison
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Dover that because he understood what
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Turkey was really after and that’s a
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Trump kind of backpedal he pulled some
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of the trips out but 11 off and left
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enough in place to dampen some of
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turkey’s ambitions
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however turkey moved into a region
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called Efrain in Northwest Syria and
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their methods of operation there was
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that they would stand in units called
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the Free Syrian Army which is composed
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of quote/unquote Syrian rebels that
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Turkey has assembled together now if you
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look closely at this group they’re
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composed of looked over Isis al Qaeda
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and Muslim Brotherhood types and then
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Turkey used these as shock troops to go
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into you know into these towns in a
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frame and to ethnic cleanse the places
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of Kurds Christians and yo cities and
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then he repopulated the region with
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turkic-speaking people’s from nothing
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from Turkey but also from Central Asia
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and so the demographics of that area has
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been completely completely altered it’s
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essentially a part of order Williams
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Ottoman Empire that he’s trying to set
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up but now and then there was some
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friction regarding an area just east of
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Efrain called to mention took miss
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Turkey wanted to also take over but
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there were American troops there so
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there was a stalemate there for a while
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but apparently at some point we tur we
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pulled our people out of amendment
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mentioned also turkey took that over and
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repeated the same process now all the
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American troops at this point were
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concentrated east of the Euphrates and
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north and east of the Euphrates is still
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part of Syria there and as long as we
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had our troops there turkey did not make
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any moves you know towards towards that
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region however he kept pressing and
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pressing and so finally really great
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okay so your turkey has playing this
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this this game that table this is the
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security issue to them because there is
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a Kurdish group excuse me called the PKK
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which turkey lists as a terrorist group
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and we also I have lists of s as a
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terrorist group and so Turkey claims
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that well you know this PK the PKK is
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still a threat
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terrorism still a threat to us so we
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want to to form this securities album
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about 25 miles deep in this section of
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Surrey east of Euphrates and so we
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finally agreed to that on the proviso
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that they do joint patrols with us so
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that’s the way it was for a couple of
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months and some of the Kurds on the
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ground said well you know this is
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working fine and no problem
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the Turks beginning couple months ago
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they began saying these these joint
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patrols just aren’t working they just
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aren’t doing the job we kept pressing
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and pressing and then there before a few
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days before Trump made his this most
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recent announcement got another phone
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call from urban man and basically Trump
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repeated what he did last December is
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that he announced he’s gonna pull all of
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our troops out and it just by saying
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that basically who’s been doing that so
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I guess all of our troops now are out
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now everybody in the Middle East is
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saying that this gave a green light to
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Turkey they do what it wants to east of
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the Euphrates and as we know from the
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news now they’ve wasted no time and
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starting out with the no airplane and
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you’re bombing and artillery and the
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more recent
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they’ve sent in the quote-unquote free
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syrian army which again is composed of
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all these these terrorist groups that
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Turkey has recruited and it’s resulted
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in like I heard on the news tonight
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16,000 new watch every knob refugees now
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somewhere I think group has been very
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solid on Iran he’s been slow at ally of
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Israel he has been solid
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if facing up to China but somewhere
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along the way I think he’s getting some
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bad advice it’s gonna be bad advice on
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Turkey you got you get your frog out you
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throw let me interrupt the real
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important question there is that advice
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coming from because I’ve always
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considered advice he’s been given has
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not been premium I’m not saying that
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everybody out there is just giving him
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good advice but I do believe like you do
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what you just said that a lot of the
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times that he’s making these decisions
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it’s because people are speaking into
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his ear and I look James is a good man I
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mean the president didn’t see eye to eye
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on a lot of things but I know that
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President Trump is gonna be his own he’s
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quick he’s his own man he’s always been
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his on them but this does seem to me
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sort of going against everything that
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most people would tell him to do and if
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I’m just curious where you think this
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advice is coming from okay let’s go back
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to the Obama the Obama administration
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one of their primary foreign policy
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goals was to enable Turkey to
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reestablish the Ottoman Empire in
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alliance with the Muslim Brotherhood
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taking over Arab states and then if you
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remember during the Arab Spring the
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Obama administration aided the Muslim
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Brotherhood particularly in Egypt but
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also elsewhere in their attempts to you
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know establish governments within the
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Arab world so the the idea was the plan
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was
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that if they could establish Muslim
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Brotherhood governments over all of the
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Arab of countries they within unite with
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her demands turkey in a new Ottoman
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Empire an Islamist Ottoman Empire
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throughout the entire Middle East now
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the reasoning buddy putting the best
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picture to this that I can the reasoning
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coming out of it BAM administration for
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this would be that radicalism light
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would be able to control the the more
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vicious radicals like Isis now client
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etc and having this one big you know
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it’s one big Empire controlling the
19:56
whole thing would be easier to keep
19:57
everything under control and yeah that
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was it’s off everyone’s problems but
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that indicates a lack of understanding
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of what the Ottoman Empire was about
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what the Muslim Brotherhood is about
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because once they if they were able to
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establish this new empire become a world
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power night they wouldn’t stop there
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because their motivation is you know
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global jihad and one they wanted to take
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over the whole world even if even though
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it takes up a thousand years to do it
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you know piece by piece but anyway
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that’s where the Obama administration
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was coming from and I’ve always felt and
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I think Brad would Brad Johnson would
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back me up on this that’s there are a
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lot of people in the CIA and in the
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State Department that had hair to that
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idea and particularly in their / levels
20:57
now when Trump took office all he did is
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you replace the Secretary of State he
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replaced the head of the CIA he didn’t
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go into the next level where a lot of
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these you want to call him deep States
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or Obama holdovers whatever you want to
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call them are still there and in fact
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the head of the CIA
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Jena Hansel was an appointee of Bram
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Cohen yeah Brennan
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so she
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probably still in hairs to that ideology
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and stand the CIA they told us was
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coming out of the CIA and the director
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of the CIA is one of the main sources
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that the president has we’re getting
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intelligence and information you know
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about the Middle East so my gut feeling
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my what I believe is that the bad advice
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on Turkey and the Middle East is coming
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from there because us pulling out an
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enabling Turkey to grab more territory
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furthers that cause there reestablishing
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the Ottoman Empire
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I’m with you on that and look I’m not
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saying as you may be long term this may
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be good for the American troops and to
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get our boys out of harm’s way
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but I do have a pause I do and I had a
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guy on the program prior to you tonight
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it was a Syria captain he was captured
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by al Qaeda and Isis he stayed in Syria
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for two years he was a journalist there
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all before he got capturing and he’s
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from the ground up and he’s more passive
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about you know the war situation and he
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believes that you know that the whole
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American influence and look he’s not
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he’s not an anti-american guy he loves
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American country but he knows what
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they’re thinking over there these
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anti-american jihadists they hate us
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with everything in them and they’re
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looking for any reason to harm to
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America and our our soldiers and our
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people and his his on it was more from
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the sake of the safety of the soldiers
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I’m view and I’m with you too though I
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believe that strategically I’m not so
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sure at least right now this is where we
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need to go
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I can I can agree with both viewpoints
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and not be contradictory I believe
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you’re right I talked to Brad about
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doing the hospital he’s gone on record
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as saying he’s not a big fan of hers
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he’s never been a big fan of hers I’m a
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big fan of hers I’ve never been a big
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fan of Christopher Bray and both the FBI
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the head of these security agencies
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Barry they smell so much like swamp it
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ain’t funny
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it’s swear they smell like swamp it’s
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almost like the very people that
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president Trump needs to be draining are
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sitting right side
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giving him advice exactly exactly I want
23:43
to bring up one more point about this
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little turkey thing in Syria at least up
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until a couple of days ago
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as you know there’s some of the Allied
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forces us and our Kurdish allies have
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captured thousands and thousands of Isis
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fighters and their families and
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everything and there’s several camps
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around sir that where these prisoners
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are have been you know are being held
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and there’s one particular huge camp
24:10
somewhere in eastern Syria I think it’s
24:14
near dara’a or somewhere in the far east
24:17
part of Syria where there are 70,000
24:20
former Isis members in this camp 50,000
24:24
of which are women and so are actually
24:26
children
24:27
so there’s 20,000 adults but maybe half
24:29
women half men
24:30
Isis has has some several months ago I
24:33
read that Isis had completely taken over
24:34
that camp and I saw photos of the men
24:38
the male’s you know carrying ak-47s
24:41
so they got weapons somehow to enforce
24:44
their their will on the others and their
24:47
women in that camp are totally
24:49
brainwashed totally into it
24:50
and they’re they believe that their job
24:54
their function is to completely
24:56
brainwash the children from the next
24:58
generation you know it’s 50,000 children
25:00
that they are brainwashing the Kurds
25:03
have been guarding that camp and one of
25:07
the fears the Middle East is that one of
25:10
the big reasons why turkey wants to take
25:13
over that region is not just to kill
25:16
Kurt but to free all of these Isis
25:20
prisoners that are in these camps bad of
25:24
the problem and you got 50,000 now think
25:27
of this 50,000 children that are being
25:28
brainwashed right they’re raised up in
25:31
this maybe 10,000 males that are armed
25:34
with ak-47s and the Kurds have already
25:38
said that well we can’t guard them
25:40
anymore because we have to pull all of
25:42
our men out to the Western Front to
25:45
confront the Turkish invasion you know
25:47
because the Turks are just slaughtering
25:48
there you know there’s women is holding
25:51
right left
25:53
so now you’ve got 10,000 male Isis
25:58
prisoners from pathetic K’s ready to run
26:01
those yeah I can see Turkey recruiting
26:03
them recycling them into this free
26:06
syrian army but which they can use to
26:08
conquer other talents and villages
26:11
you’ve got the 50,000 children then can
26:15
be brought up in an atmosphere where
26:16
that Isis ideology can continue to be
26:20
taught and fertilized and that will be
26:22
the next generation of the jihadi
26:25
frontlines the shock triggers for even
26:28
more chakra need for more character so
26:30
that is the real fear is that with us
26:35
pulling outs and a lot on Turkey to come
26:37
in that not only does it look like a
26:40
betrayal of one of our allies it’s a lot
26:43
of people but it also runs the risk of
26:47
turning Isis loose again and allowing
26:50
another regeneration of Isis so long
26:54
term I’m your party you’re gonna have to
26:56
go back in there again gonna ask you
27:01
that on these lines which camp are you
27:04
more inclined to believe right now the
27:05
Lindsey Graham camp that saying this is
27:07
a huge mistake or president drop that
27:10
saying look I’m fully aware of what’s
27:12
going on over there and you know if Isis
27:15
does rear its head we’ll deal with it
27:17
but to me there again I’m not an expert
27:20
in this you are and I and I lean on your
27:23
understanding of this better is it
27:25
better do you think that the Lindsey
27:27
Graham camp is actually saying what we
27:30
is right here or do you think President
27:32
Trump family tribe would side Lord
27:35
Lindsey Graham now let me say one more
27:38
thing about you know American troops
27:41
Isis was mostly defeated militarily you
27:47
know they popped every once while they
27:48
were be on a terrorist act here a
27:49
terrorist act there for the most part I
27:51
mean their Caliphate was destroyed and
27:53
their overt military power was taken
27:57
away so I you know American troops did
28:01
not face too much danger from Isis you
28:04
know
28:05
two months ago a month ago etc ah and to
28:10
give a parallel look back at the world
28:12
war ii german Japan a Germany after
28:15
after we defeated them what did we do
28:18
would be occupied then we’re still there
28:21
that’s true beer nobody complains about
28:23
that in the Middle East look what you
28:25
know what Obama pulled out of Iraq and
28:28
back same thing you were saying okay you
28:30
know the war against terrorism for you
28:32
know we’ve got a stable talking indirect
28:35
so we pull out and what happens I just
28:39
brush up and look at the hell analysts
28:41
and so just you know just because you’ve
28:46
won the war on the battlefield
28:49
you know what you need some kind of a
28:53
force they’re a stabilizing force to
28:55
prevent the bad guys from rising up
28:58
again and to prevent other bad guys in
29:01
neighboring countries from coming in to
29:03
take us over to take it over so all
29:06
right then is that this is going to blow
29:08
up again and it might be even worse next
29:11
time and you know if they’ve heard again
29:17
I’m successful in resurrecting this new
29:20
Ottoman Empire including all the Arab
29:24
states this role sitting right in the
29:26
middle I’ll agree with that that is a
29:28
certain amount to that Israel is going
29:30
to be called a crosshair exist it’s a
29:32
dynamic though and again we would joke
29:34
about this on every single program the
29:36
the the Middle East it makes your head
29:40
spin
29:41
when you think about all these
29:42
connections with the country because you
29:44
got Turkey Syria Saudi Arabia Iran Iraq
29:46
one minute they’re buddies the next
29:48
minute they’re bombing the hell out of
29:49
each other
29:50
Turkey and Syria you know they share
29:53
basically a hatred of Israel because
29:55
this aragon he’s no affair of israel and
29:57
these far-left muslim these jihadists as
29:59
the turkeys ever had you know it’s a
30:02
real conflict to me I mean I don’t see
30:04
how NATO is reconciling this having a
30:06
member on it on its NATO force that is
30:08
so anti-american so anti-israel and I’m
30:12
just curious if you can talk about the
30:13
relationship between Syria and Turkey
30:15
how um Assad’s handling all this how he
30:18
feels about one
30:19
– Turkish forces going to hit northern
30:21
part of this country that can’t be
30:22
sitting well with mr. song this is
30:27
almost funny because a few months ago
30:30
there’s a big meeting between Assad of
30:33
Syria
30:33
Berta Graham Turkey and Putin yeah I
30:37
think the rain Eames may have been in on
30:39
this too
30:39
and anyway they said the primary
30:43
obstacle to peace in Syria is the
30:48
presence of American troops okay we pull
30:52
our troops now they’ve got the Turks you
30:55
know invading and they’re all going
30:56
crazy so as far as the Assad regime that
31:02
you really are not jihadist although
31:05
they have supported you know some bad
31:08
groups they’ve been allies with
31:10
Hezbollah and all that they’re where
31:13
they come from is you know they they got
31:16
you know the old men from the lab got
31:19
started back in the 60s when socialism
31:22
was a big deal
31:24
in that part of the world and the system
31:26
he set up based on what they call the
31:29
Baathist party which is mistress of
31:33
socialist secular party which was very
31:38
friendly to Christians and other
31:40
minorities they protected the minorities
31:42
within Syria but when the Arab Spring
31:47
started in 2011 and a sad began to feel
31:51
threatened you turned more to Iran and
31:55
if I did the Iranians in to help him try
31:57
to put out the now that we’re going and
32:00
they’re still losing so then they begged
32:03
Russia to come in so the Russia came in
32:05
and turned things of course the other
32:07
way around
32:08
so Assad’s position is that especially
32:11
now he needs the Iranians and he’s
32:14
allowed a red one account for it like
32:17
something like 200,000 Iranians now are
32:20
in Syria and these are not just military
32:23
and these are civilians that have come
32:25
in
32:25
and repopulated a lot of the towns that
32:28
were refugees have fled so that’s the EE
32:32
search and now also one of the
32:34
religiousness area is they call
32:38
themselves a lot Louise which is a
32:40
branch of the Shia and whereas turkey is
32:44
swinging so there is a difference there
32:48
well they’re not gonna get along yeah
32:51
like me written all over it birria does
32:56
and again I just hope I meant to ask you
32:59
this nice yes it’s long ago about the
33:01
the people talking to trump do you think
33:03
Pompey was on board with this Secretary
33:05
of State I think Pompey I’m not sure how
33:12
solid is the knowledge of Turkey because
33:15
the previous thing he said like Italy at
33:17
last December but he’s not anti-trump
33:21
in fact he just come out and was it yeah
33:25
because why don’t you like I mentioned a
33:27
lot of the people at least are saying
33:29
that our pullout from Syria has given
33:32
Turkey a green light to you know come in
33:34
and exterminate – if they cleanse the
33:36
place and Pompeyo I think it was did any
33:39
nor last night whatever had you know
33:41
defended Trump saying that he didn’t
33:43
really give him the green light so the
33:44
trying to backtrack on that somewhat
33:46
yeah so oh wait speaking backtracking
33:49
from Paul so what’s his hope who started
33:51
he announced that he would crush early
33:55
wins economy if he went too far in Syria
34:00
my view was it’s already gone too far so
34:03
I think we need to just totally nuke
34:06
their economy another thing that bothers
34:09
me is that there Trump a scheduled day
34:12
of White House visits for ordered rain
34:15
in November 13th cancel that now just so
34:20
close people company get down and crush
34:23
their economy and cook about NATO there
34:26
one of the things we talked about I
34:28
remember this one of our first one or
34:30
two interviews that we did we talked
34:31
about Turkey turkey has always been a
34:36
hybrid nice
34:39
it swings both ways many times it has in
34:42
the past
34:42
right now it’s swinging left it swinging
34:44
left hard dangerous to meets women most
34:47
dangerous countries in the Middle East
34:48
because it’s big it’s not it’s not some
34:51
small nation and it’s not it’s not a
34:54
little Iraq that we just went and pushed
34:55
over with America gets into a conflict
34:57
with these people I asked my buddy that
35:00
was the captive about Russia he had an
35:02
interesting take on it he said Russia’s
35:03
not me more happy about this in America
35:06
is because their concern is that Turkey
35:09
is going to go into Syria take over
35:11
those oil fields which is Russia’s bread
35:13
and butter and then they’re gonna have a
35:15
conflict with Turkey where in the past
35:16
they may have been but bed buddies and
35:18
their ambitions in the Middle East but
35:21
this this has got even Russia and Turkey
35:23
at odds that is that accurate I think
35:25
that’s pretty accurate it yeah I think
35:29
they’re little historic historically is
35:32
you know Russia’s number one enemy
35:35
historically it’s not Germany nothing
35:39
yellow horns out of Asia it’s Turkey Wow
35:42
I think back 800 years and they’ve been
35:46
fighting on and off ever since then
35:48
really and early in the the Syrian war
35:54
right after when Russia first moved in I
35:58
started bombing Isis targets remember
36:01
the turkey shot down a Russian plane I
36:03
remember that yes and Russia almost went
36:07
to war with Turkey at that time they
36:09
would probably would have accept that
36:12
turkey is a member of NATO which gives
36:15
them a protective umbrella you’re Russia
36:16
I can’t stake on NATO but a top Russian
36:21
general wrote a white paper that’s I’m
36:24
explaining exactly how Russia could then
36:27
should take down Turkey but then that
36:30
was the end of it eventually Putin made
36:32
up with Berta grin and they’ve been
36:35
friends France since now I think Putin’s
36:38
gambit there in terms of forgiving
36:41
Turkey making up within Ahmet cetera is
36:43
to try to woo Turkey at NATO
36:46
we’ve been resisting an ounce but I
36:50
think I say Ally
36:51
oh nothing man let them pull turkey I
36:53
don’t NATO and then if turkey pisses off
36:57
Russia nothing nothing to wouldn’t go at
36:59
it yeah but it’s long as turkey is a
37:01
member of NATO you know Russia can’t do
37:03
that Russia can’t go at them but this
37:06
now with Turkey moving into Syrian
37:08
territory and Russia has sort of you
37:12
know pledged itself for the protection
37:14
of Turkey because it’s not so much for
37:16
the oil wells because Russia has plenty
37:18
of oil themselves and they’ve also ok I
37:21
think I said in the previous interview
37:24
that they’ve made a big deal with
37:26
Iranians they’ve basically taken over
37:28
most of her Rams oil production and
37:31
exporting yeah so yeah as far as the oil
37:35
in Syria over Russia’s concern there’s
37:37
there is not that they needed but that
37:40
they don’t want someone else to get at
37:42
their profit from it
37:43
Russia’s main interest in Syria is
37:45
military bases because to be a great
37:48
power you need overseas military bases
37:53
and after the fall of the Soviet Union
37:57
when Putin thought he started to rebuild
37:59
his military well the only had one
38:03
military base overseas
38:05
it was a naval base in North in
38:08
Northwest Syria Khalil of the kia area
38:10
so he wants to maintain that and since
38:13
the you know the war in Syria has been
38:16
going on they’ve expanded that and
38:17
they’ve added at least one major airbase
38:20
also in Syria Putin wants to keep those
38:23
because that’s that and the new bases
38:26
he’s setting up in Iran now these are
38:28
the tickets to be coming um you know
38:30
playing the great power their game
38:32
you’ve got to have these bases overseas
38:34
so this is main interest in Syria but in
38:41
tricky dynamic and again this this makes
38:43
your head spin when you think about it
38:45
one quick question we’ll move on
38:46
something else of Israel do you think
38:49
Benjamin Netanyahu has chimed in with
38:51
President Trump on this do you think if
38:54
told him to back away from this move or
38:56
where do you think Israel’s I they can’t
38:58
be happy with this no they’re from what
39:01
together from the Israeli press is that
39:03
this ratings were scared to have it
39:05
scared to death when we pulled out and
39:09
that it mimics what I you know what’s
39:12
coming out of the Arabic world also this
39:15
fact well the Arab world except for the
39:18
nation of Qatar cuz contour supports the
39:20
Muslim Brotherhood and their allied to
39:22
Turkey so they’re all were joy well this
39:25
Pope and the Muslim Brotherhood of
39:28
course is but all of the others that you
39:33
know that are trying to be some
39:34
modernize and be somewhat moderate are
39:37
this scared the heck out of them because
39:39
they know makes them wonder can we trust
39:42
America another thing that is an
39:47
intriguing dynamic to because again one
39:50
of the things trunk
39:51
president Trump did in defense of this
39:53
he basically said look he said I know
39:55
there’s an uproar about the Kurds and so
39:57
quote-unquote betraying them he said but
40:00
the Kurds have been paid good money to
40:02
do you know five alongside us or
40:05
whatever and that was his statement and
40:09
my friend again I’m sort of comparing
40:11
notes here in parallel in your
40:12
statements with my friends cuz it he was
40:15
had an interesting taken he’s not too
40:16
far off with your assessment of this
40:18
trust me he’s not a he’s not a pro his
40:21
llama guy over there look he’s been in
40:23
the middle of this hotbed I think if
40:24
you’ve been tortured for two years
40:26
artist that is not to make you a fan and
40:35
he’s a good guy he’s tremendous friend
40:38
and but one thing he mentioned to me
40:40
about the Kurds he said that they that
40:44
they’re not as honorable as we’re being
40:47
told they are even though they’re good
40:48
people they’re moderate definitely the
40:50
more moderate then this this left-wing
40:53
jihad is and Sharia StuH Barry but again
40:56
it goes back to something fundamentally
40:57
me and you’ve always talked about there
40:58
are no good players in the Middle East
41:00
are they yeah you might have a point
41:04
there
41:05
those two factions of the Kurds on the
41:07
coast has explained that there is I
41:09
mention the PKK before which even
41:11
we have declared to be a terrorist
41:13
organization although there are action
41:16
of terrorism and have been directed
41:18
mostly against the Turks they really
41:20
haven’t done anything to us but because
41:22
turkey is a member of NATO we went along
41:24
with them you know declaring them to be
41:26
a terrorist organization there there’s a
41:28
group called the wipey wipey G which are
41:32
the Kurds that we lied with in the war
41:35
against Isis and formed the Syrian
41:38
Democratic Army so you know there’s
41:41
different factions within the kerbs – as
41:43
to whether how Islamic they are and how
41:45
you know cone – terrorist acts let et
41:48
cetera that they are but he might have a
41:51
point in I mean this left this Islam so
41:54
and any of those groups given a chance
41:55
to you know probably would you know are
41:59
not gonna be alright you know my
42:03
personal belief another day this goes
42:04
back way back to we may have mentioned
42:08
this before the sykes-picot agreement in
42:11
1917 between the British and the French
42:14
but during the you know towards the end
42:17
of World War one when they decided how
42:19
they’re going to divide up the Middle
42:21
East and they basically just drew lines
42:23
on the map and so this is a country here
42:26
this is this country in this country
42:28
everyone in the Middle East gun state
42:31
except for the kerbs my belief is that
42:35
considering that that and the Turks now
42:37
have gone rogue Iran is a rogue country
42:40
Iraq and Syria forget it you know
42:44
they’re they’re a total mess anyway I
42:46
would like to see ya the Kurdish regions
42:49
of all of those countries pulled out and
42:52
formed into a new country the Kurds
42:54
gonna have their own country they would
42:57
become a balance about whether between
43:00
Turkey and Iran and whatever other
43:05
Muslim Brotherhood jihadi groups raise
43:07
up and it would become natural allies of
43:09
Israel yeah that’s a great point and you
43:11
know thinking buddies ever brought that
43:13
up there that’s excellent I know that’s
43:15
an excellent point of view and I would
43:16
totally agree with that I my brother I
43:20
can’t get everything he did over there
43:22
but he served in Iraq a year before he
43:24
got out of the air
43:26
and he he had a lot of he had a lot of
43:29
dealings with the Kurdish people he’s in
43:31
the northern part of the nation and he’s
43:33
told me often since he’s gotten back
43:35
this has been years ago and he said look
43:37
he said the Kurdish people are good
43:38
people he said there he said they really
43:41
love America most of them do most of
43:43
them I’m going to say love America again
43:45
that’s a you know relatively turned
43:48
there I mean it’s not like they’re gonna
43:49
embrace democracy
43:52
come here then live under the rule of
43:54
Iraqi dictatorship or a Turkey’s
43:57
dictatorship or whatever so you know one
44:01
more point on that is that the Kurds
44:04
were there you know where they’re at now
44:07
they were there before the Turks the
44:10
thousands of years before the Turks ever
44:12
came in right they were there even
44:15
before the Iranians came in they were
44:16
there before the Arabs came in and of
44:18
all the people in the Middle East that
44:20
didn’t get the state it’s them
44:22
you know the roots and one habitants so
44:27
it’s an interesting thing Barry
44:30
hey I want to talk about it’s about five
44:31
minutes the distant will get to Las
44:32
Vegas on you one of the things that
44:34
really caught my attention in your brief
44:36
is Iraq the protests are have erupted in
44:39
Baghdad and you mentioned that you
44:41
you’re seeing the seeds of another Arab
44:43
Spring may be developing in a region
44:46
that we thought was pretty stable it’s
44:48
been stable for a while and relatively
44:50
speaking again Middle East the term
44:53
stability is somewhat of an oxymoron but
44:56
for the most part there’s not been two
44:58
minutes going on in Iraq tell us a
45:00
little bit about what you’re seeing
45:01
because that’s an intriguing thing and
45:03
that’s not that does not bear good news
45:04
because we don’t need another we’ve got
45:07
a mess already in several of these
45:09
places like you said and we sure don’t
45:11
need a mess in Iraq redeveloping well go
45:14
back to what I said before about we kept
45:17
troops in Japan and Germany to number
45:21
one to make sure the bad guys didn’t
45:24
come to power and number two to make
45:26
sure that foreign enemies didn’t come in
45:30
and do their thing but also to
45:34
act as guidance for the new government
45:37
coming in to make sure they stayed on
45:40
the up-and-up and developed a your
45:42
workable you know representative
45:45
democracy or whatever you want to call
45:47
it like forget it Germany Japan we’re
45:48
very successful there now we pulled out
45:52
of Iraq in 2011 and not only did that
45:55
allow Isis through rise up but it also
45:58
allowed Turkey to invade the turkey that
46:03
Kurdistan area for Iraq in the north
46:04
part of Iraq and they’re still doing
46:06
that it also allowed the Iranians to
46:08
insert themselves into the Iraqi
46:10
government and corruption is just
46:15
totally random punt in the current Iraqi
46:18
government according to what I’m
46:20
learning out of the Middle East and
46:23
while they pretend to be an independent
46:26
Arab states they are pretty much been
46:30
holed into Iran now another issue that’s
46:34
causing problems there is a group of
46:37
militia called the hostage avi which
46:41
means a popular mobilization these are
46:45
of militias but their loyalty is
46:49
entirely to Iran even though they Iraqis
46:52
the speaker a key in the Arabic their
46:54
loyalty is entirely to render funded by
46:56
the Iranians and they’re owned by the
46:58
Iranians and they actually got started
47:02
when we were there they they are the
47:04
people that were laying a lot of the
47:06
mines you know kill our guys with and
47:09
then after we left of course they hung
47:11
on and by that time Isis was rising up
47:15
so the Iraqi government that we left in
47:17
place there needed this these these
47:21
plugger mobilization militia to help
47:24
them fight Isis now after Isis was
47:27
militarily defeated other ranky
47:30
government wanted to either disarm these
47:33
pub and militia groups or bring them
47:35
into the regular Iraqi army so that
47:38
there would be some kind of control from
47:39
Baghdad but the militia groups have
47:42
resisted that all the way through and so
47:45
they’re still doing their own thing
47:47
throughout you know much of the area
47:50
Surabhi she areas in the south and even
47:52
in the Sunni and Kurdish areas in the
47:54
north are still active up there and if
47:59
you remember a while back there was a
48:00
some kind of a missile fell into the
48:03
Green Zone of Baghdad
48:04
I remember they don’t wear the u.s.
48:06
embassy was it didn’t kill in any
48:08
American tummy but it was fairly close
48:10
in the connector yeah cause all of them
48:12
this is a blade that this you these
48:14
hosts ashabi one of these militia groups
48:16
tied to a ram well the ones who did that
48:19
so they’re still a problem
48:22
no these demonstrations had been rising
48:25
out are demonstrating protesting against
48:29
the corruption of the Iraqi government’s
48:31
the lack of jobs the lack of basic
48:35
services sewage electricity etc and of
48:39
the Iranian influence in their Anki
48:42
governments you know of their Shia now
48:44
welcome any of these protesters most of
48:45
them are Shia they’re protesting against
48:48
the heavy-handed Iranian influence on
48:50
they’re a key government protesting
48:52
against the Shia militia and journey’s
48:58
protest someone has been shooting live
49:00
rounds of ammunition against the
49:03
protesters and at first it was that is
49:08
thought it was the plunder militia the
49:11
Shia militia that were doing that
49:12
on-ramps behalf and then there were
49:15
reports that well it was the Iraqi army
49:18
the regular Iraqi army was doing it and
49:20
then there were other reports that the
49:22
Iraqi army was actually protecting the
49:24
protesters against the Iranians yeah the
49:28
most recent reports I have on this and
49:31
what’s going in there is that there have
49:33
been snipers on tall buildings that have
49:36
been picking off these protesters and in
49:40
Iran I mean Iran has recently issued a
49:43
statement saying that these protesters
49:46
are agents of America in Israel Wow that
49:52
meds me to believe that they’re the ones
49:54
behind the violence against the
49:56
protesters so that’s what’s going on in
49:59
Iraq
50:00
yeah you talk about lack of stability
50:04
this it’s I think we’ll to be a mess for
50:07
a long time there absolutely look I
50:10
won’t monitor that we may bring you back
50:11
on I’m sure we’ll be talking about in
50:13
the weeks to come there I want to take
50:15
the last 10 15 minutes of the show to
50:17
deal with something that we passed the
50:19
two-year anniversary here October the
50:21
1st I believe for the two-year
50:24
anniversary which I had the word
50:26
anniversary the commemoration of the
50:30
terrible tragic worse to tears really I
50:33
call it a terrorist attack on this soil
50:35
since 9/11 the Las Vegas shooting
50:37
massacre even had this madman that
50:41
carried all this ammunition up to his
50:44
hotel room without somebody seeing what
50:47
was going on which is insane and it set
50:49
off and like all these shootings
50:51
it’s always the aftermath that makes us
50:54
shake our head because we you know we
50:56
I’ve got my own thoughts about this I’m
50:58
sure you do too and I think it’s
51:00
insanity when the police come out two
51:02
years later or just this just last year
51:05
they came out I think sometime early
51:07
2019 and said look we don’t know why
51:09
this guy did steal which I think it’s
51:12
horse hockey and I would use another
51:14
term awesome worst turn I can use turn
51:17
on my shadow as a family I have to get a
51:21
beep ready get one of those I need to
51:22
get one of those digital beepers that
51:24
when Chris is saying a bad word beep
51:26
beep horse beep
51:28
but anyway I know you got some thoughts
51:30
on that because you looked at this and
51:32
you believe that had Isis you had I had
51:35
Isis footprints all over it in Las Vegas
51:38
pending yeah absolutely absolutely
51:40
for one thing Isis had a track record of
51:43
doing concerts they did want to Paris
51:45
and 2016 I think it was did one a match
51:51
the story ain’t won in like late 2016
51:55
early 2017 something like that
51:58
and they they they actually may actually
52:02
publicly announced that Las Vegas was
52:06
next
52:07
they said of twice they said they were
52:09
going to hit Las Vegas and
52:12
after the you know pad Hispanic I should
52:15
you know sign up the concert there Isis
52:17
claimed responsibility not once not
52:20
twice four times and people were getting
52:23
yeah an Isis never claimed
52:25
responsibility for an act that they
52:27
didn’t do so but even before that you
52:31
know soon as that happened I said well
52:33
that’s got to be that’s got to be Isis
52:35
because of the track record had been the
52:37
concerts and then we started reading
52:42
that Isis claimed that this panic guy
52:45
converted to Islam six months before
52:47
distributing so you know why would they
52:52
gonna claim that unless he did okay so
52:56
this were looking into that and do you
53:00
think that that’s why the police shoved
53:02
us on the rug so bad like this thing
53:04
stinks bear two years later it stinks
53:06
man this was a horrible this is the
53:08
worst shooting on our soil
53:11
ever domestic terrorism we this was
53:14
domestic terrorism at its worst and to
53:17
not have a reason publicly to this it
53:21
stinks and I don’t know more believe
53:23
their take on this and I have no nothing
53:25
but respect to the police departments
53:27
across this country but when it comes to
53:29
Las Vegas police department that
53:30
Sheriff’s Department there you have to
53:33
shake your head at that and you got to
53:34
say something is rotten in Denmark well
53:37
what happened there it wasn’t just you
53:38
know the local Las Vegas police
53:41
the FBI moved right in and took control
53:44
of the whole investigation now the FBI
53:47
isn’t going to do that unless it’s a
53:49
terrorists act right off the bat see
53:52
littered but then they’re the ones that
53:54
put the clamp on any information coming
53:59
out and they insisted on the narrative
54:01
that it was just a lone shooter or
54:04
lowlife guy that went crazy and now if
54:08
you remember the during the Obama
54:09
administration it was you know never I
54:14
don’t see any Islam don’t hear any Islam
54:17
don’t say any Islam there every
54:19
terrorist act that occurred during the
54:21
you know during the famine
54:23
they tried to classify it as workplace
54:26
violence there’s something of the sort
54:28
and yeah of course
54:32
Robert Mueller as I’ve reported before
54:35
was very much into that he you know was
54:38
responsible for what he called
54:42
whitewashing all of the instruction
54:44
manuals to eliminate any reference to
54:46
Islam jihadism excetera
54:49
in counterterrorism instruction call me
54:52
was his protege he did the same thing
54:55
and had held the same beliefs
54:56
Christopher ray that you mentioned
54:58
before isn’t that the swamp critter I
55:01
mean he was cut from the same mold as
55:03
James called me Robert Mueller and even
55:07
though he was a trumpet appointee
55:10
theoretically he has maintained the same
55:13
policy of a clunky down on a reference
55:17
to Islam any sort of Islam and jihadism
55:20
and any sort of violence that takes
55:23
place on American soil so it was a
55:26
policy of the ax man that’s been in
55:28
place for almost a decade to clamp down
55:31
on any of these kind of incidents and
55:33
the to forbid any connection with Islam
55:38
of any sort even with Isis okay and so I
55:43
think that’s where the FBI was coming
55:44
from but by doing so and like you just
55:47
mentioned that it’s raises suspicions so
55:51
never you when everyone’s a part and so
55:54
you have all of these conspiracy
55:56
theories rising up so yeah my finding is
55:59
well if the FBI doesn’t want a
56:00
conspiracy theories about why not tell
56:03
us the truth
56:03
I don’t think we’ll never see a four
56:05
year old man they say he convert to
56:07
Islam in six months before of the
56:10
shooting why in Hell’s name with a 64
56:14
year old man convert to Islam Zack
56:18
area’s great point great question
56:22
it’s almost as crazy as a 64 year old
56:24
man going crazy and shooting up people
56:27
I’m usually that’s something you have a
56:28
16 year old or a 21 year old they might
56:31
do when they get drunker or their
56:33
girlfriend done some or something like
56:34
this but a 64 year old man why would he
56:39
convert to Islam let’s go took a look at
56:43
his girlfriend the Las Vegas police have
56:51
admitted that her fingerprints were all
56:53
over the magazines that they found in
56:56
Haddix room and issue they declared her
57:00
a person of non interest not a person of
57:04
interest okay so I kept saying you know
57:07
people think of fun the Philippines at
57:10
was a Catholic country
57:11
this is ruled by Spain you know for 400
57:14
years and the majority of the people
57:16
there are Catholic but being an old hand
57:22
and covering a terrorist issue this
57:27
there when Islam got to the Philippines
57:31
before the Spanish did in case when the
57:35
Spanish came in they basically forced
57:37
people to convert to Christianity or
57:39
they shoved them down into this there’s
57:42
less three islands in the south to
57:44
amaretti pity little microscopic on this
57:46
one is produce decent science called
57:50
Mandan Mandana so most of the Muslims
57:53
ended up there
57:54
they’re virtually the only and they have
57:58
continued engaging a job jihad
58:01
ever since then there’s no movie job
58:04
came out in nineteen made 1920’s 1930’s
58:10
that was about these jihadists coming
58:14
from southern philippines raiding other
58:17
era coastal areas of philippines running
58:20
off with slaves and yelling a long whack
58:22
burl horn and this particular say the
58:26
movie was made in the early 1930s but it
58:28
was set in the 1920s so even into the
58:30
20th century these muslims in the
58:33
southern part
58:34
though things were conducting jihad
58:37
raids and slave raids against the
58:39
Christians in the other parts of the
58:41
Philippines
58:42
now when terrorism begin to to escalate
58:48
during the last half of the 20th century
58:50
going into the 80s and 90s there was a
58:53
group in the southern Philippines called
58:57
the Apple sales group their leader was
58:59
Apple say off he allied with al-qaeda
59:02
but more recently after Isis started
59:05
going you know after the year of spring
59:07
2011 tens of thousands of Muslims in
59:12
that region swore allegiance to Isis in
59:16
fact at one point Isis took over an
59:18
entire city called Marah WA and the
59:21
Philippine Army had a hell of a time
59:23
getting them out of there now what is
59:27
remember the name of the paddocks
59:30
girlfriend the media first said that her
59:33
name was Mary Lou Dan Lee but I found
59:37
out since then that that’s a typo
59:40
misprint her real name is man mu Dan Lee
59:44
man Lou Dan me the name of this island
59:48
were Muslim Muslims live and which is a
59:51
hotbed up for isit is men then no so as
59:56
a linguist as it
59:58
she’s from that area yeah she’s probably
60:00
an Isis you know Muslim and probably an
60:03
Isis and Herot and so I kept you know
60:08
even before I found out you know made
60:11
the connection between her name of this
60:13
I in this section of area the
60:15
Philippines I kept crying out you know
60:17
and they’re all these investigations are
60:18
going on about the panic and the
60:21
shooting I kept begging the FBI please
60:24
tell us where this girlfriend is from
60:27
what part of the Philippines is she from
60:29
is she a Christian or not or not tell us
60:33
what religion she has where she’s from
60:34
they didn’t the only reason they didn’t
60:37
is because they couldn’t and so as a
60:39
linguist oh look at her name now man Lou
60:43
danly and the name of this island that
60:46
is such a hotbed of Isis activity and
60:50
then oh my god
60:52
that’s the that’s the link that’s so how
60:56
can I three why would a 64 year old man
60:59
convert to Islam how about sex love a
61:02
younger woman yeah absolutely
61:05
that makes a lot of sense my friend hey
61:06
quick question
61:08
go ahead fast one quick question I’ll
61:10
let you continue do you think there was
61:11
more than one shooter that I come
61:20
reserved two rooms it was on the thirty
61:23
thirty first Forrest was 34 like 125 on
61:28
124 something like that so it had two
61:31
reasons reason our rooms reserved there
61:34
was a guy an Australian named Brian
61:37
Hodges who when the shooting was going
61:41
on he sent out a tweet saying that he
61:44
was in one of those rooms this Brian
61:48
Hodges so happens to be a member of Isis
61:50
Wow and he ended up right up to the
61:56
shooting ended he ended up in a motel
61:58
called the knotty pine motel in North
62:00
Las Vegas by coincidence there were
62:04
three guys from Mexico
62:05
at the same motel who came from an area
62:09
in Mexico that has high Isis activity uh
62:13
and then a couple days later he shows up
62:16
at a new restaurant in New Mexico rumba
62:19
its church that’s on the terrorist watch
62:21
list and also unknown I see sympathizer
62:26
could be just pure coincidence right
62:30
nothing is never coincident very well
62:33
here’s a frightening thing and I’ve got
62:36
a couple more connections on this whole
62:38
thing in 2017 during December 2017
62:43
picture about two or three months before
62:44
the Las Vegas shooting there was a g20
62:47
meeting in Germany and antiphon from the
62:52
United States came over there and of
62:54
course was antiphon in Europe also
62:57
Isis was also there there you know these
62:59
everybody was near protesting g20 and at
63:03
that during that g20 meeting EPSA fuh
63:07
and Isis got together and formed an
63:09
alliance Isis promised to help train
63:13
anti-fur members and provide weapons for
63:16
them okay so it it is believed by a lot
63:21
of people that this las vegas shooting
63:23
was the first joint action between Isis
63:26
and handsome and Tafoya and Isis and the
63:30
other shooter you know there were two
63:33
windows broken outs
63:34
yeah there were gun replacements in both
63:35
places and this Brian Hodges admitted by
63:41
a Twitter thing that he was him you know
63:44
this other room so no there’s there part
63:48
of that answer and another tweet he sent
63:51
up another tweet saying uh about the
63:55
people that were you know the concert
63:56
goers that were the victims Oh
63:59
celebrating what all those dirty redneck
64:01
workers are getting there
64:03
Derick hanging there come up to you and
64:04
he was just rooting out I’m brooding on
64:06
the mowing down of these redneck concert
64:09
because you know it was a
64:12
country-western concerts and most the
64:15
majority of country-western fans were
64:17
probably Trump voters so that’s you know
64:20
a great target for not only for Isis but
64:23
for identifying yeah that’s my final
64:26
question we got about five minutes gotta
64:28
wrap it up but I I’ve heard rumblings
64:30
that there were anti Fatah status to or
64:32
with Isis that they were connecting is
64:34
that is that legitimate that legitimate
64:36
concerns yeah yeah yeah that uh it was a
64:39
joint operation that’s what it looks
64:40
like why was it Brian Hodges good guy
64:42
and anti self-declared Antipa
64:46
sympathizers remember why was he in one
64:48
of the rooms that that panic had read
64:52
leased out so yeah I’m with you buddy I
64:56
buried some great stuff tonight I’ll
64:58
tell you I think these interviews just
65:00
keep getting better I want to appreciate
65:01
I do appreciate you inside I do man this
65:03
is I hope our people are chewing on this
65:06
and if nothing else I think what what
65:08
you’re doing you’re getting people to
65:10
research
65:10
look into this more get a little bit
65:13
more involved with what’s going on in
65:16
the Middle East because look the Middle
65:18
East is a hotbed with our national
65:21
security I would say this I feel like
65:23
I’m on safe ground saying this of all
65:25
the threats to our national security 9
65:27
there’s a lot of them out there but this
65:29
that you’re talking about each week with
65:31
us every other week sometimes to me it’s
65:34
the number one area where we need to
65:36
have our focus on because that’s where
65:38
our enemies are most concentrated is in
65:41
this region of the world that mean you
65:43
talk about prereq or on this show well
65:45
it’s not just the you know the threat of
65:48
new wars and the least and the terrorist
65:51
acts which kill you know I mean your
65:54
wants anyone killed they kill a limited
65:56
number of people then that’s not going
65:58
to destroy us bring us down but it’s the
66:02
infiltration into our country and it’s
66:06
our intelligence agencies that is the
66:09
real danger from Islam that we’d have to
66:12
face as well as the terrorism good stuff
66:15
buddy as always and we’ll have you back
66:17
home soon and we’re gonna try to work
66:19
something we’re trying we’re trying to
66:20
figure it out how to get Barry on live
66:22
one night and taking questions we will
66:24
do that soon but this has been a
66:26
pre-recorded interview but it’s been
66:27
just it’s been recent Barry thank you
66:30
again my friend and I think next time we
66:32
get together we may talk about the
66:33
infiltration issue because a lot of
66:35
people don’t understand just how serious
66:37
that is and I get your take on that but
66:41
we’ll we’ll save that for another day
66:42
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would be he’s growing in popularity a
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lot of folks that told me they they
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really liked the weekend summary of the
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news and we’re working on getting
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different things done to make it better
69:13
and that’d be fun I wanted to say thank
69:16
you tonight for Barry Webb tremendous
69:19
insight especially this last segment
69:21
about Las Vegas I had heard some of that
69:25
on the comments about Vegas through the
69:28
last couple of years but it was just
69:31
interesting hearing an expert on the
69:32
Middle East talk about it and I hope
69:36
you’ll go back and listen to it if you
69:37
missed it basically bottom line is folks
69:40
again where they closed this case about
69:42
a year ago and they told us that there
69:44
was no motive for stealing tatak and
69:46
you’ve got a 30 year plus veteran of
69:48
Middle East Intel telling you is n Tifa
69:51
and Isis and I tend to believe the 30
69:54
year Intel guy and my friend Barry Webb
69:57
and it’s what’s so frustrating with our
70:00
justice system and it’s frustrating in
70:04
general that we can’t get answers to
70:06
these horrendous crimes and Vegas will
70:08
still stand as of now as the most
70:13
deadliest attack on American soil that
70:15
we’ve had since 9/11 we’re not saying a
70:19
lot folks 9/11 is going to stand out as
70:22
an earmark in history and I don’t want
70:24
to get in all that tonight but I do
70:27
appreciate Barry and his insight
70:29
I do appreciate his insight on the
70:31
Middle East as a suspect that I thought
70:33
I think the Baghdady killing took place
70:37
just two three days after this interview
70:39
when we did it would Barry and it’s
70:41
gonna be interesting to see how what has
70:44
taken be once we get him back on post
70:47
Baghdad he posts Isis and wanted to get
70:50
and kill and I’ll say this real quick
70:52
and I’m gonna wrap it up on her
70:53
afterthought tonight but um I thought
70:58
the move by trumpet first was I’ve
71:01
always had trust in him I don’t have a
71:04
lot of trust in the people around him
71:06
but I do have trust in him and I know
71:09
there was a few comments in the chat
71:10
room about trusting Trump trusting the
71:13
plan and all this stuff and folks
71:16
whether there’s a plan in place or not
71:18
it don’t really matter ultimately the
71:21
president makes decisions and history
71:24
has proven that not every decision every
71:26
president makes his right you may or may
71:30
not like george w bush I’m not a big fan
71:33
but one of the things that he said at
71:35
the end of his presidency I totally
71:37
agreed with and he said this he said
71:41
we’re still discussing what George
71:42
Washington did and decisions he made
71:45
here through evolutionary war some 200
71:48
plus years later and he said we’re
71:50
probably going to be discussing what I’m
71:52
doing 200 years later to and from
71:54
president rhymes going to be the same
71:55
way if the Lord tarries that long people
71:57
will be analyzing to decisions and
71:59
things that have been happening over
72:01
these last three years for years now
72:04
going on for gonna be four more
72:07
I’m guarantee that Lord willing but I
72:11
will tell you this and I and I feel this
72:13
strongly tonight um I think that’s been
72:17
some of the frustration I felt with all
72:19
this impeachment malarkey because we’ve
72:22
had a historic three years folks there
72:25
have been historic decisions historic
72:27
things that we will never see again in
72:29
our lifetime the things that have
72:31
happened over the last three years that
72:33
we have basically
72:35
we’ve not been able to enjoy because of
72:38
the smoke and the fog of these lawless
72:40
Democrats and these lawless lawmakers
72:43
and these ungodly people that have
72:46
thrown this country into oblivion and
72:47
our tension has been focused on all of
72:49
that instead of focusing on this
72:52
historic run by the President of the
72:55
United States including Middle East
72:57
policy all the critics are and look how
73:02
Barry Webb’s a friend and and he would
73:04
probably the first to tell you this look
73:06
he did not think that it was the
73:08
smartest move president Truong pulling
73:10
out of Syria I wouldn’t have went that
73:12
far I had questions about it but I was
73:15
not gonna not trust my president I knew
73:17
that he knew best and whatever Intel he
73:21
was getting he evidently saw that the
73:25
need to come out was necessary well the
73:28
whole what we find out and this is the
73:30
crazy thing is it was never about to
73:32
pull out of Syria all it was doing was
73:35
fleshing out the number one number two
73:37
people of Isis to hierarchy and war Bal
73:41
Baghdady it’s wacked
73:44
three days after we pull out of Syria 72
73:46
hours almost to the minute the president
73:50
drugged did it he turned out to be
73:51
looking like a genius you know and here
73:54
we have a man who has never had any
73:56
foreign policy experience and you know
73:59
it was all to get out to root out this
74:03
Isis terrorist that he did and then a
74:07
few days later wasn’t even 48 hours
74:09
after that number two went down and
74:13
number one and a number two I will no
74:16
longer be running Isis now you can
74:20
attribute that to President Trump which
74:22
I do or you can say it’s just luck which
74:25
I don’t
74:26
president Trump knew exactly what he was
74:28
doing now
74:29
are there gonna be consequences and
74:31
perils in this certainly there’s going
74:34
to be I think what the jury will always
74:37
be out for a while
74:38
on whether ultimately long-term this is
74:40
the right thing to do I believe it is
74:42
barry sees it a little differently but
74:45
there’s other people to see it
74:46
differently than me and bury both and i
74:47
think it’s a little mixed
74:49
and I just think that somewhere in the
74:51
middle of this will be the answer but we
74:54
do need to be praying for the
74:55
president’s not be praying for Syria
74:57
folks we need to be praying for Turkey
74:58
we need to be praying for that region of
75:01
the world that that peace will come to
75:06
the Middle East now I’m saying that
75:09
politically I know the spiritual
75:11
component to this we’re actually going
75:14
to be dealing Sunday morning with the
75:17
spiritual component of the Middle East
75:20
as it relates to the future and I
75:23
promise you it will not be boring I
75:24
encourage you be with us on our Sunday
75:26
morning meeting time program we’re gonna
75:27
be dealing with the second coming the
75:29
physical second coming and you can’t
75:32
really talk about physical second come
75:34
in unless you deal with the tribulation
75:35
unless you deal with the alignment of
75:37
the nations as that we see yet future
75:40
we’re going to be dealing with the
75:42
Battle of Armageddon uh probably in this
75:45
little discussion over the next few
75:46
weeks we’re probably dealing with a mere
75:48
supper of the Lamb
75:49
took us five weeks to talk about the
75:51
rapture probably take us five weeks to
75:53
talk about the trip to the second coming
75:55
that’s gonna take us into December we’ll
75:57
probably take a break around
75:58
Thanksgiving for special Thanksgiving
76:00
service and that that’s remains to be
76:03
seen but you don’t want to miss the
76:05
sunny morning programs because we’re
76:06
going to be talking about this region of
76:07
the world and what the Bible has to say
76:09
about it and you don’t want to miss that
76:10
on our face show um because I know
76:13
there’s a spiritual component to this
76:14
that overrides everything we’ve talked
76:17
about tonight and it will it will bless
76:19
you on a Sunday but anyway that’s for
76:22
Sunday and we appreciate you joining us
76:24
on our backfiles broadcast each night as
76:26
we bring the interview section to an end
76:29
tomorrow as five o’clock with Sean then
76:31
we’ll have a wrap-up show and then we
76:33
started all again on Monday and the
76:36
Monday night spiritual Smackdown got a
76:37
lot of great gifts coming next week
76:39
we’ve got a brand-new guest
76:41
Cheryl Daniel she is a judge a retired
76:44
judge out of Pittsburgh Pennsylvania
76:46
she’s going to be coming on and talking
76:48
about the impeachment process and how
76:50
utterly despicably illegal and unethical
76:53
it is from a judge’s perspective and you
76:57
don’t want to miss that and she will not
76:59
be talking like judge idiot Napolitano
77:01
on Fox News
77:02
who is a nevertrump or a Trump hater and
77:05
the biggest idiot to be a judicial
77:10
fox news contributor I’ve ever seen I
77:12
could go on that show into a better job
77:14
with alcohol degree and that moron does
77:18
on thugs and that’s my dig for the night
77:20
that’s my whoever that was said I was
77:24
whiny I guess that’s my whining moment
77:26
you know if that’s my whiny moment I
77:28
guess that’s my whining moment but his
77:31
jerk he’s a jerk and he’s an idiot jerk
77:33
at that don’t listen to him
77:35
don’t don’t pay him any mind Breitbart
77:37
did an article on him about a week ago
77:40
two weeks ago and over the last three
77:43
years there have been at least 35
77:46
instances where he’s predicted things
77:48
would come to pass they didn’t come to
77:49
pass and Fox still has them as a
77:51
contributor hey Fox I come on and do
77:55
that for you if you’re going to pay that
77:56
kind of money to a moron at least pay
77:58
one to a moron that’d be fun about it
78:00
would be more of entertaining but that’s
78:03
just that’s just a thought
78:07
all righty it’s getting late Chris
78:10
getting tired it’s Thursday night
78:12
November the 7th 2019 we will see you
78:15
tomorrow
78:16
5 o’clock in the afternoon I’m looking
78:19
forward to this with Sean I really am
78:21
we’re gonna have to answer questions I
78:22
was going to answer a few questions
78:23
tonight I’m gonna save those for
78:24
tomorrow um and we’ll talk about the
78:27
Middle East tomorrow too but we’re going
78:29
to talk about a lot of other things as
78:30
well and we encourage you to be with us
78:33
tomorrow and then we’ll have a wrap-up
78:35
show tomorrow night where we will take
78:36
questions at the end of that show for
78:38
sure and we’re just looking forward to
78:41
all this with you and we thank you
78:43
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78:51
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78:53
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78:56
feel that to do it and we thank a great
78:59
number of you that have felt led to do
79:01
it over the last two to three weeks I’m
79:03
telling you I’m overwhelmed at the
79:06
amount of love and support that you guys
79:11
have given this show and I cannot tell
79:13
you I try to say it every night
79:16
I know it sounds like a broken record
79:17
but I don’t I don’t want it to sound
79:19
like a broken record I want it to be
79:21
coming to you from somebody that is
79:23
sincerely grateful arm for your
79:27
generosity and for your love like we
79:29
can’t just keep the show on without you
79:31
and we thank you we thank you for
79:33
responding and we hope you’re getting
79:35
something in return for it I feel like
79:37
you are but I also feel like that you
79:40
are part of this and we’re just glad to
79:42
have you on board and whatever journey
79:45
we take as we go into 2020 look we got
79:48
an election year coming up it’s going to
79:50
be lit and we’re gonna probably have a
79:53
lot more candidates on in 2020 but we’ve
79:56
got some great guests coming again I’m
79:58
sure and we’ll have our wrap-up shows at
80:02
the end of the year but it’s just been a
80:03
good run and we’ll be entering our third
80:05
year come January 1st it’s hard to
80:06
believe that but Godsman very faithful
80:10
to us he’s been very good to us very
80:12
very very good and get a little choked
80:16
up thinking about it to be honest with
80:18
you how good he’s been and part of him
80:21
being good as you thank you for being
80:23
with us on this journey and we hope you
80:25
stay with us I know some will not and
80:28
it’s just like there will be some that
80:30
will get off the train along the way
80:32
we’ve had that happen already in two
80:34
years I look at my audience tonight
80:36
and probably less than a third of you
80:38
were with us two years ago that’s how
80:40
much the audience has changed but
80:43
there’s some of you that come on
80:45
recently there’s some just come on
80:46
longer there’s some that has been with
80:48
us from start but whatever part of this
80:51
journey you’ve jumped onboard with us we
80:53
thank you for being part of it people
80:55
come and people go the old saying goes
80:58
the best stay and we thank you out there
81:00
tonight for staying and sticking with us
81:02
hope you’ve enjoyed the ride as we have
81:04
with you god bless you god bless your
81:07
families and God bless this great nation
81:09
of America please pray for President
81:11
Trump
81:11
pray for his family pray for this
81:13
country tomorrow night I’ve got an
81:16
announcement to make an event that will
81:19
take place a week from Saturday we will
81:23
be releasing our Christmas project
81:26
entitled tis a sentimental Christmas
81:30
and I will be giving you details about
81:31
that tomorrow night at least some
81:33
initial details official launch date
81:35
November the 15th a plenty of time for
81:38
Christmas and we’re actually going to be
81:40
releasing our other CDs that we did
81:42
we’ve done this would be our third
81:44
Christmas CD my dear friend Eddie Cole
81:47
who is the former studio man for the one
81:51
and only Charlie pride is a good friend
81:53
and I’ve known Eddie for five years now
81:56
and just a dear brother and I he’s just
81:58
been a blessing to me to help me get
82:02
these out and we finished work on it
82:04
before we went to Philadelphia we’re
82:06
going to tweak it a little bit over the
82:07
next few days and it’s going to be ready
82:10
for release November the 15th I’ll give
82:11
you the details on that tomorrow and
82:14
look for that tomorrow night sometime
82:16
god bless you again folks I’m out of
82:18
here
82:18
have a good one everybody thank you for
82:20
joining this very web just in case you
82:22
listening thank you buddy for a great
82:23
interview til tomorrow night folks be
82:25
blessed out there be safe take care of
82:28
each other we love you and we thank you
82:29
for all you do for us god bless
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