Death Penalty: John Brennan, U.S. Attorney Durham

 

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Brad Johnson is April 15 the lockdown is

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still under way with no actual immediate

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end in sight but in the meantime in in

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what looks like really strong trumpian

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tradition while everybody’s watching one

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thing he is very expertly doing another

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something which the media would

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typically prevent him from being

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effective at and that appears to be

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going after the heart of darkness John

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Brennan who from many accounts seems to

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be the single main creature behind so

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much of what has been wrong with the

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American government for the last number

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of years what do we know about these

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hearings this is this is interesting

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well a couple of things on it first it’s

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it’s not really President Trump

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President Trump by the way that

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government is organized and and and

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Trump is respecting this this

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investigation is by the Department of

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Justice under US attorney general bar so

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Attorney General bar has a free hand to

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do as he see fits on this and the

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president well is being informed by

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attorney general Barr he’s being

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informed on sort of the overall you know

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look from 10,000 feet sort of thing

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versus you know getting into the details

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with him and that that properly stays

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within the investigation that’s being

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conducted run by US attorney general bar

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overseen by US attorney general bar and

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the actual day-to-day is handled by US

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Attorney John Durham so it is separated

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from Trump to some degree so I don’t

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want to mischaracterize it by saying

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Trump was really running the thing

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because he is not now what’s interesting

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out of this is and but by the way I do

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agree with your point that Trump is an

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absolute master at sort of throwing

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things out over here that drives the

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press absolutely insane and then behind

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the scenes he’s doing a lot of other

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things and he is working on a lot of

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things having to do with this swamp for

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example the IG the inspector general who

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was the guy who went to Congress with

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this supposed whistleblower nonsense

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over Ukraine got fired so two things

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have recently happened one that guy

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Atkinson was his name he got fired now

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the left is saying oh you know this is

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political corruption on the part of

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Trump and he’s just trying to get rid of

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people that are upstanding and doing the

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work of the people and a lot all that

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which of course is all a lie and because

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this guy went around the regulations and

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laws to take this to Congress which was

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clearly a political move versus like

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following the regs sort of move so this

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is this is what we’re seeing out of

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these guys look what else are they going

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to say I mean they have to say that

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because you know they’re having their

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their their supporters are being kicked

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out of the administration which they

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didn’t belong in there in the first

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place so Atkinson being gone is

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certainly a good move the president is

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doing those sorts of things behind the

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scenes and a lot of people are being

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moved out particularly of the

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intelligence community the IC now on to

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what Durham is doing Durham just came

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out and said went to the CIA and said I

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want all of John Brennan’s records of

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communication like phone records emails

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all this sort of stuff because we’re

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looking at what he did now for those who

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watch our interviews on a regular basis

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you’ll hopefully will recall I’ve done a

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lot of interviews and written op eds on

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this that all roads lead back to John

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Brennan I’ve been saying this for the

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last year and it was because as an

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intelligence guy looking at this thing

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as I’ve long said this is an

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intelligence operation what was being

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run against President Trump was an

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intelligence operation and as you looked

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at the little bits and pieces as they

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surfaced they all had a connection back

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to a nexus back to John Brennan and so

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that’s that’s what we’ve seen now

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clearly Durham and Barr have come to the

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same conclusion a year after me but they

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they require proof and all I require is

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just to figure it out and know so

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they’re going through this system of

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actually finding proof for everything

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and now they’ve concluded the same thing

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well they’re talking about is abuse of

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power by John Brennan former director of

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the CIA and looking at how this whole

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thing where the impeachment the Moller

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investigation how all of that came to be

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because it was all based everyone will

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probably recall it was all based on a

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opposition research document which

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famously became known as the steel

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dossier that was paid for by the Hillary

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Clinton campaign in anticipation of the

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2016 elections and that document that

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was provided the opposition research

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document which was provided was then

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leaked out John McCain Senator McCain

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who has since passed away you know was

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instrumental in getting this and

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forwarded it into the system getting it

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into the FBI so that it became this

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official document so yeah all these

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political maneuvers going on to create

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to take this document and get it into

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the system so there were a lot of parts

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on that and that’s part of what Durham

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is clearly looking at but then how that

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was ushered through because as I’ve

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explained before the fysop process is

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actually a handshake everybody looks out

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and is like some pure legal document

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that is incorrect it’s factually wrong

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the fysop process is a handshake between

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intelligence and intelligence product

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meaning reports that we gain from

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clandestine sources and law enforcement

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so you take this intelligence document

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you run it to a FISA Court judge the FBI

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is on the other half of the handshake

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and the FISA Court judge approves it and

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the FBI from that point is able to open

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a clean case with cutting the

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intelligence out of it going through the

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spice’ process now it’s extremely

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important because intelligence cannot be

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drawn into the legal system because the

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discovery process in court where then

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the defense would be able to look at all

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of this information so that’s why FISA

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was created so that intelligence could

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be used connected with through this

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handshake to law enforcement so that was

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the origin of the FISA warrant against

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President Trump and his campaign at the

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time and so that was based on this steel

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dossier which as I said everybody knew

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there had been leaked emails so we know

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James Comey of the FBI director the FBI

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we know John Brennan from the director

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of the CIA where you know basically

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everybody who was involved DOJ FBI

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CIA were aware of the origin of this

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document they were aware that has said

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nothing to do with intelligence because

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we all know where it came from well

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documented this is not just somebody

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saying oh I think this there are duck

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there’s a lot of documentation to prove

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this so how did this get going and as

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I’ve always said all along it was clear

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this was an intelligence operation it

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was clear it came out of the CIA and it

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was clear that it came that this could

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not have happened without John and

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Brennan being directly involved so

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that’s why this is being investigated

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now and I will point out to everybody

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you know this is part of why I have said

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all along John Brennan is such a

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vehement

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critic of President Trump because this

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is his only defense because it looks

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like he is so guilty of all this stuff I

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mean it’s just so hard to imagine that

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he’s actually got a defense in this

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thing he’s been all along building his

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defense by being this vehement critic a

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president Trump so that when these

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charges come out he can say their

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political revenge and that’s his only

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defense and so that is what we’re seeing

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going on even now John Brennan came out

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with a statement yesterday as as this

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news hit about how he’s sort of the

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primary suspect in this criminal

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investigation by Durham that’s been his

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that was already what he said he’s

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basically come out and said you know

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this is just another him getting rid of

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the IG and him attacking me this is all

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politically motivated he’s just trying

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to attack all of us loyal upstanding

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citizens who are doing you know the

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right thing and you know he’s evil and

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that’s all that’s their only defense and

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that’s what was he happy to see

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happening out of this case now Brennan

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is in trouble here now the facts are

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starting to come out he’s clearly

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lawyered up he has their statements from

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it now that expands outward and

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something I’ve talked about previously

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as well for over the last year and a

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half and that is that since the CIA had

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to have played a central role because

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that’s how you pump information into

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pipes up from intelligence and they’re

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not saying it came from NSA it’s always

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been clear that

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was supposed to be a CIA document and

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again the recordings of conversations

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and emails that were going on where if

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you’ll recall Brennan was saying that

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this steel dossier has to be included

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because it was the the crown document of

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this case and so therefore had to be

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included and I’d read the FISA even

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though was the redacted version I read

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the FISA warrant that was done

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originally and I told you from the very

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beginning that the only evidence in that

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was the steel dossier so Durham has all

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this he has all the unredacted versions

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so even redacted you know if you’ve read

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these things you know what’s in there

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and I know what they crossed out and so

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it’s like I’m telling you it’s always

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been coming out of the CIA there is no

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other option there is no second theory

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of where this could have come from

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so that’s pumped into the FBI we all

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know they knew – so these guys are in

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real trouble but at the center of this

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all those lead to Brennan as I’ve said

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all along it’s only former CIA director

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John Brennan as I said this expands

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outward now we had rumors what maybe

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three months ago now that current

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director of the CIA Jena Haspel who’s a

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very close associate of John Brennan who

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was chief of station in London

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apparently at the same time when this

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Steele dossier was being created which

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is interesting and John Brennan

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hand-picked her to go back to London

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where she’d already been cos to go back

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to be cos once again which in and of

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itself to go back and do the same to her

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again is not particularly enhancing for

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your career so it’s a very interesting

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move like I said not typical those

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things happen and but there’s a reason

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when it happens so what we don’t see so

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far is what is that reason why Gina

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Haskell was sent back to be chief of

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station of London now it’s you know not

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something that necessarily should be

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kicked around in the public arena anyway

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but you know like I said it does match

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up with the other facts perhaps she was

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involved but we learned say three months

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ago that she’s lawyered up and that

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would have been when they would have

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kicked off the timing is about right to

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see this this moving forward to get to

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the point where now they’re asking for

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all these documents out of the CIA all

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these records

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the CIA of what John Brennan was up to

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which those are all public record if

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they disappear there’s a lot of problems

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for a lot of people in this instruction

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of justice sorts of things so that stuff

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is probably all going to come out going

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to be very interesting to see how that

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how that plays out but as I said Gina

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Haskell and her top echelon of people

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are all very close Brennan associates

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her deputy director of art the deputy

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director of the CIA was a guy that was

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brought out of retirement by John

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Brennan to fill a senior slot having to

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do with the modernization program he

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retired again and Jean has well brought

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him out of a retirement a second time to

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fill the Deputy Director position so

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it’s all these people at the top of all

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of this I think we’re going to see the

0:11:41.640,0:11:45.899
intelligence community really blown out

0:11:44.550,0:11:47.820
of the water by this whole thing and I

0:11:45.899,0:11:51.420
think the corruption act with the former

0:11:47.820,0:11:52.890
DOJ FBI and CIA officials is really

0:11:51.420,0:11:55.470
starting to bubble the top something

0:11:52.890,0:11:57.240
I’ve long predicted and based on what I

0:11:55.470,0:12:01.260
was seeing as I said like a year and a

0:11:57.240,0:12:03.810
half ago and I think what the rest of us

0:12:01.260,0:12:05.399
want to know is I think a lot of people

0:12:03.810,0:12:07.230
are pretty confident that there were

0:12:05.399,0:12:09.149
these wrongdoings I think it’s almost

0:12:07.230,0:12:12.029
obvious at this point yeah but what I

0:12:09.149,0:12:14.579
think people’s great fear is is that

0:12:12.029,0:12:16.500
this won’t actually see the inside of a

0:12:14.579,0:12:19.140
courtroom what do you think the chances

0:12:16.500,0:12:21.870
are that if this investigation turns up

0:12:19.140,0:12:26.520
enough justification for charges that

0:12:21.870,0:12:28.770
charges will actually happen well I

0:12:26.520,0:12:31.980
think at this point there’s no backing

0:12:28.770,0:12:34.520
down I think US Attorney General Barr

0:12:31.980,0:12:38.550
and US Attorney John Durham are

0:12:34.520,0:12:40.470
committed to this course so I don’t see

0:12:38.550,0:12:42.630
how they could get to the end of it and

0:12:40.470,0:12:46.589
go well you know give the James Comey

0:12:42.630,0:12:49.410
speech of what was it July 2017 or 16

0:12:46.589,0:12:51.779
where he said well you know yeah there’s

0:12:49.410,0:12:53.940
all this wrongdoing but no no you know

0:12:51.779,0:12:55.680
nobody would prosecute this case I don’t

0:12:53.940,0:12:58.709
see how they can come out with any sort

0:12:55.680,0:13:00.300
of take like that so this is going to go

0:12:58.709,0:13:02.880
through to the end they’re already

0:13:00.300,0:13:04.520
talking about abuse of power abuse of

0:13:02.880,0:13:06.649
power you know I don’t know the pen

0:13:04.520,0:13:08.690
for being convicted of such things but

0:13:06.649,0:13:10.430
that’s just sort of a general thing

0:13:08.690,0:13:13.910
they’re not going to lay their cards on

0:13:10.430,0:13:17.330
the table yet so this cannot be you

0:13:13.910,0:13:20.600
can’t have this process done this way we

0:13:17.330,0:13:23.180
know that the FBI and DOJ and CIA people

0:13:20.600,0:13:26.029
involved who signed off on the FISA

0:13:23.180,0:13:29.000
warrant and the three renewals we know

0:13:26.029,0:13:30.649
that all of those people were aware the

0:13:29.000,0:13:33.080
steel dossier which was used to obtain

0:13:30.649,0:13:35.930
the FISA warrant was an opposition

0:13:33.080,0:13:39.140
research document and not a product of

0:13:35.930,0:13:41.750
intelligence so you cannot look at that

0:13:39.140,0:13:43.670
and say this wasn’t fraud or perjury or

0:13:41.750,0:13:47.330
some combination of things like that

0:13:43.670,0:13:49.220
that’s all illegal so I would say at the

0:13:47.330,0:13:51.380
very least we’re going to see things

0:13:49.220,0:13:55.310
like that but I’ve said all along a

0:13:51.380,0:13:59.240
couple of things this was clear to us

0:13:55.310,0:14:01.010
attorney general Barr way back when when

0:13:59.240,0:14:02.420
the Muller investigation got kicked off

0:14:01.010,0:14:04.880
he was looking at all of this stuff

0:14:02.420,0:14:06.950
going this makes no sense I mean there’s

0:14:04.880,0:14:09.620
no basis in the law for any of this

0:14:06.950,0:14:11.209
stuff going on and every time he asked a

0:14:09.620,0:14:13.250
question he stated this publicly every

0:14:11.209,0:14:15.649
time he asked somebody about it what he

0:14:13.250,0:14:19.360
got was a nonsense answer there was no

0:14:15.649,0:14:22.910
good answer on how this was you know

0:14:19.360,0:14:27.800
generated so he knew he had a case way

0:14:22.910,0:14:29.600
back when and so I think he was so aware

0:14:27.800,0:14:31.940
of all this from the very beginning that

0:14:29.600,0:14:33.740
there were problems wrong that that he’s

0:14:31.940,0:14:37.790
been kind of setting the whole system up

0:14:33.740,0:14:40.339
and to come forward on this so I would

0:14:37.790,0:14:43.880
say the chances of people being indicted

0:14:40.339,0:14:47.089
are close to a hundred percent does he

0:14:43.880,0:14:49.220
now don’t forget this is something yes I

0:14:47.089,0:14:52.730
don’t forget something else either

0:14:49.220,0:14:55.779
the day after the Muller investigation

0:14:52.730,0:14:58.300
ended US Attorney General Barr

0:14:55.779,0:15:01.640
reinstated the federal death penalty

0:14:58.300,0:15:03.440
I’ve stated all along to everyone that

0:15:01.640,0:15:06.529
is not a coincidence and that is not an

0:15:03.440,0:15:10.160
accident Barr is a methodical smart guy

0:15:06.529,0:15:12.769
so to reinstate that what he did is he

0:15:10.160,0:15:15.350
put this enormous baseball bat in his

0:15:12.769,0:15:18.439
hande and to go forward with this this

0:15:15.350,0:15:21.769
case almost certainly rises to the level

0:15:18.439,0:15:24.439
of treason because clearly these

0:15:21.769,0:15:27.949
activities based on nothing only

0:15:24.439,0:15:30.110
political motive were intended to unseat

0:15:27.949,0:15:32.660
the president of United States a duly

0:15:30.110,0:15:35.689
elected president United States well I

0:15:32.660,0:15:38.209
think that that pretty clearly defines

0:15:35.689,0:15:41.509
what most people would consider treason

0:15:38.209,0:15:43.519
so by reinstating this way back when

0:15:41.509,0:15:45.559
because like I said he knew all this he

0:15:43.519,0:15:47.269
saw all this coming he was publicly

0:15:45.559,0:15:49.220
stated his suspicions of this whole

0:15:47.269,0:15:51.350
thing and to have reinstated the federal

0:15:49.220,0:15:52.819
death penalty means that he now has a

0:15:51.350,0:15:54.649
weapon that he can use against these

0:15:52.819,0:15:57.949
people within the court system I’m not

0:15:54.649,0:16:00.529
suggesting that he’s unduly going to do

0:15:57.949,0:16:02.929
this but if this arises to the level of

0:16:00.529,0:16:06.230
treason death penalty is on the table

0:16:02.929,0:16:08.899
for treason so do you love me just say a

0:16:06.230,0:16:11.089
categorically I mean John Brennan is not

0:16:08.899,0:16:12.799
the type of character who has the mental

0:16:11.089,0:16:16.069
toughness to face this sort of thing

0:16:12.799,0:16:18.769
neither is James Comey neither as James

0:16:16.069,0:16:21.199
clapper particularly clapper none of

0:16:18.769,0:16:23.149
these people McCabe former Deputy

0:16:21.199,0:16:26.600
Director of the FBI none of these people

0:16:23.149,0:16:29.329
have the wherewithal to face this sort

0:16:26.600,0:16:31.999
of pressure and if a prosecutor says

0:16:29.329,0:16:34.519
look you have actively involved in

0:16:31.999,0:16:37.189
treason death penalties on the table or

0:16:34.519,0:16:38.149
you can make a deal with us how do you

0:16:37.189,0:16:39.350
think that’s going to go they’re all

0:16:38.149,0:16:41.299
going to make a deal they’re all going

0:16:39.350,0:16:43.579
to fold like a like you know house of

0:16:41.299,0:16:45.439
cards in a in a breed on a breezy day I

0:16:43.579,0:16:47.319
mean they just don’t have the mental

0:16:45.439,0:16:50.600
toughness to face up to this stuff so

0:16:47.319,0:16:53.839
this whole thing is going to implode on

0:16:50.600,0:16:55.459
them they’re all gonna they’re all going

0:16:53.839,0:16:57.139
to turn they’re all going to flip is the

0:16:55.459,0:16:59.419
term that people like to use they’re all

0:16:57.139,0:17:01.339
going to report the question in my mind

0:16:59.419,0:17:03.259
is not are people going to be indicted

0:17:01.339,0:17:05.569
yes people are going to be indicted the

0:17:03.259,0:17:06.620
question is on what charges I think

0:17:05.569,0:17:08.720
what’s going to happen is they’re all

0:17:06.620,0:17:12.289
going to plate I think they’ll all play

0:17:08.720,0:17:13.850
out and and who knows who you know

0:17:12.289,0:17:14.959
whoever please first is going to get the

0:17:13.850,0:17:16.939
best deal and it’s gonna go downhill

0:17:14.959,0:17:18.150
from there so I think they’re gonna line

0:17:16.939,0:17:20.790
up to try and get in and make

0:17:18.150,0:17:22.170
deal quickly so we’ll see how all that

0:17:20.790,0:17:23.820
unfolds with the question is how high it

0:17:22.170,0:17:27.530
goes does it go to the all the way to

0:17:23.820,0:17:27.530
Obama or not that’s the question

0:17:30.650,0:17:43.119
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