Slap on wrist for Chinese student spies? Naval base breached.

In a perfect example of why Americans for Intelligence Reform exists, Brad Johnson, retired CIA Operative and President, reveals the appalling consequences of politicizing our CIA, FBI, DOJ. Two Chinese students, pretending to be tourists, got into Key West Naval Air Station, took pictures of our sophisticated communications operation, likely uploaded direct to the CCP and erased, and now face at most a six month sentence. Under the easy-to-obtain student visa, dozens of incidents have taken place; always with just a slap on the wrist. The Chinese Communist Party ‘s infiltration will lead to disaster if the “wussification” of our intelligence community continues. Yet this insidious Chinese behavior garners little attention. Visit intelreform.org, get involved, bring this issue to national attention and help push forward necessary reform.

 

um Brad Johnson April 29 2020 there were
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some underreported arrests of some
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Chinese people in a Key West in Florida
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what can you tell us about that is it
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related to all of the is it related to
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why I had to wait in line 25 minutes
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today well I don’t think it’s
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particularly related to Cove it but it
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is an interesting thing now one of the
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things that I’ve mentioned over and over
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and over it’s just how the China views
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every every possible way that they can
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stick a knife into the United States as
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this part of this viable overall
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strategy so where they have to take a
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back take a step back in negotiations on
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trade deals and things like that which a
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president Trump is tough as nails on
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that cuz he understands that stuff very
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well where where they take a step back
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there they’re taking two or three steps
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forward on a whole bunch of other things
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and one of them is espionage they’re
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just running amuck on espionage and have
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had tremendous success they’ve wiped out
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the CIA espionage program in China
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they’ve had good success is recruiting
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against the CIA and getting penetrations
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of the CIA number of people or in Gao
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for that very thing in a bin arrested
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and so who knows if there’s anybody else
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we don’t know about that’s still
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cooperating with the Chinese what we’ve
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seen that they’ve done at all of these
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institutes and universities where
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they’ve made inroads where we’ve had
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dozens of people either fired or
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resigned because of their relationships
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to the Chinese government and by the way
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I’ll point out to everybody some of the
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most people that focus on there is an
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espionage law in China now in our
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espionage laws in China or in the United
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States but we we basically say okay if
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you’re spying against the United States
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if you’re conducting espionage against
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us that’s illegal and so you’ll be
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arrested and taken to jail the Chinese
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espionage now that laws they have that
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too but what they also have is that by
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Chinese law if you are a Chinese citizen
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you are legally obligated to spy for
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China if they require it of you you do
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not become anyone of any mmm
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Horton’s or monetary value in China
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without being part of the Communist
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Party and to show your loyalty the
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Communist Party you’re expected to do
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all that stuff if you come across
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something you’re supposed to come back
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and report it to the powers that be and
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let it go up up and down to the channels
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do with what they want and they’ll come
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back to you and tell you what they
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expect you to do so it’s it’s quite
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different from us if you’re just Joe
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Schmo traveling to X country and see
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something you know you never say
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anything to anybody probably but in
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China they’ve got to go back and report
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that and if they don’t get caught you
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know there’s that that doesn’t play well
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to the Communists
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so at any rate now this is a little bit
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different deal in Key West
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beautiful little basically an island
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it’s all connected by roads but it’s
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it’s basically a little low-level lying
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island in a river delta at the very
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southern tip of Florida it’s the
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southernmost part of the United States
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and at the southernmost part of the
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southernmost island of Key West
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there is a naval base beautiful spot
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beautiful beaches really nice if you if
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you’re in the Navy and have a chance to
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go spend some time in Key West I
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recommend it it’s beautiful spot lots of
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historical things there as well and they
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but that this Naval Base now as you can
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imagine you know I this isn’t stuff I do
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never in the Navy so can’t can’t talk
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about this but you can all understand
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where they would have communications and
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things of that nature at this place out
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right on the edge of the of the ocean
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there where communications can do well
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again I don’t know this for a fact but
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it would certainly be a good place where
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you’d want to put some of the very ultra
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low frequency communications for
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submarines for example where we’d have
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the greatest reach out into the Atlantic
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Ocean and you can just imagine things
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like that that that would exist there so
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antennas are always very important in
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the scheme of things so what happened is
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basically late last year after Christmas
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we had two groups of picked a group of
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two Chinese students and one Chinese
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student breached the base and in one
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case they drove a car up to the gate the
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guard stopped him and they said oh we’re
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just you know tourists looking around
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and he said no turn around this is the
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base you can’t they just drove straight
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through and went into the base
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we’re driving around taking a lot of
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photographs and and then uploading him
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back so they weren’t on their phones
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anymore to god-knows-where and then they
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finally get pulled over and caught and
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arrested and now they’re gonna be
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sentenced and they’ll get a slap on the
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wrist they’ll get a few months in jail
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and and be let go and then a couple of
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months later another Chinese student
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does that this time he swims around the
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barrier it’s like you said it’s on the
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southern tip of an island maybe a fifth
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of the island is the Navy base and so
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out into the water you know they have
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the little fences that extend out into
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the water and he swam around that to get
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up on there and what are they doing
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they’re taking pictures of antenna
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arrays and all of these sorts of things
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now let me just say for everyone in kind
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of the general intelligence world order
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of battle for the military is a big deal
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you know they always are collecting that
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sort of information of course we would
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never go take pictures of enemy antenna
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arrays of that sort of thing to send
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back to be analyzed to know what they
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are but of course the Chinese would do
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that against us so that’s precisely what
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was going on here these guys are Oh
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hundred percent tied to intelligence and
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based on the target taking photographs
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of military installations antenna arrays
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they are Chinese military intelligence
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and these are young probably officers
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and military intelligence and this was
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their duty and how did they get to the
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United States student visas now how
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often have we seen them used student
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visas all of the time we’ve even had an
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arrest there’s somebody in prison or
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right now who was illegally obtaining
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student visas for Chinese intelligence
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officers to use to get into the country
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I wouldn’t be surprised if that guy got
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the visas for these kids he’s got there
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in the late 20s and and they’ve gone
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into the space got all their photographs
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uploaded to them not too much in their
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phone anymore they all get arrested they
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get a slap on the wrist they go to you
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know a fairly easy jail for six months
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or nine months they get sentenced to
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some really low thing and that’s it they
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wash their hands of it then they go back
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as champions to China and it has to be
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military intelligence in my opinion
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because very educated guess because of
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what they’re there there
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interest was in and like I say taking us
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and ten arrays and installations and all
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this at this Navy base and that Navy
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base is you know fairly significant in
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the scheme of things you do hear
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references to Key West all of that and I
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I’m not privy to what goes on inside
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that base but like I say it just is
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positioned such that it has to be
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involved with certain things and
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communications is going to be one of
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them because of how its positioned so
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they’re going to be interested in that
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sort of thing but it’s going to be the
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Chinese military so clearly an espionage
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case clearly these guys are getting
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arrested for trespass you can get the
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slap on the wrist basically end up gonna
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go home heroes so it’s just one more
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case of this and it’s one of these
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things they’re gonna be sentenced so one
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or two of them are gonna be sentenced
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here soon coming up in the next two
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weeks I think they’re going to have some
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hearings on the sentencing end of things
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and like I said these aren’t crimes
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where the sentence is so drastic they
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know that so for them it’s worth it this
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guy goes and sits in jail it’s not going
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to be hard time and they get they’re
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getting paid you know their salaries
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they’ll just stop me is you know going
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into the bank account back home so it’s
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not that hard of a deal for them to do
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it so they’re willing to throw these
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young people at them as party probably
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part of a I wouldn’t be surprised if
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this was a graduation exercise that they
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were doing for young military
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intelligence officers I would not be
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surprised if it was something along
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those lines but that’s that’s exactly
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what this case was and it’s just one
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more of dozens and dozens of examples of
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very hard charging Chinese intelligence
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collection operations geared and aimed
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directly at the throat of the United
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States of America and I’ve got to say
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now the FBI has come out with some stuff
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in 2018 and begun to warn about it and
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they’ve started to reach out a little
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bit but you know OMG are they so far
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behind the power curve and where on
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God’s green earth is the intelligence
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community where is this yay where is
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everybody on this and they’ve just
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gotten to be such useless people that
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don’t understand the intelligence
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business that I’m not sure that there’s
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anything there left to work with
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and the FBI counterintelligence I don’t
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know they’re just they’re all gone out
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to lunch I think anyone good is gone
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there’s nobody left there that’s worth a
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damn and this is part of the problem of
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where we’ve seen this get so politicized
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and they are so involved in the politics
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of what’s going on that all the people
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that were good that know how to do the
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job of left to be replaced with these
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guys that only do the political end of
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things and so they don’t understand they
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don’t see I’m stunned at the
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incompetence and the fact that we’re not
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striking back why are we laying so quiet
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doing so little while the Chinese just
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run rampant in the United States I got
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to say the wood suffocation has been
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completed in the US federal government
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intelligence community and I for one
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just I I cannot tolerate it we all have
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to is unfortunate it’s such a closed
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world because not everybody can just
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stand up and go this is nots if we saw
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the US military have been gutted the way
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it was and the similar type of people
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run rampant in the military doing what
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they’re what they’ve done in the
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intelligence community you know I think
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people would be tarred and feathered and
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run out of town for such stupidity but
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it’s it’s such a closed little world in
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intelligence that it’s just not that
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apparent and said it’s a sad and
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dangerous thing to see I wonder what
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would happen to an American spy that was
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caught in China I’m guessing more than
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just making them needed one of those
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what markets I yes well I would just say
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I think that you know drawing from a
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slightly different case as we know
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there’s a satellite state of China which
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is called North Korea and we had a young
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student there named warmbier I believe
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is his last name this poor young man who
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I think he touched a poster and wanted
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to try and take a poster that was of the
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dictator of North Korea and basically
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was beat to death and into a coma and
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finally I’m allowed to come back to the
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United States to die so I think we know
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that that that the treatment would not
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be so easy as a slap on the wrist in a
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you know hotel type jail setting that
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these these changed intelligence
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officers are going to get Club fed
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thank you very much Clark very much Brad
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Johnson that’s that’s really something
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to think about
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you

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