Intelligence has gone into politics. COVID-19 is sad example.

It is not at all appropriate for the Intelligence Community to offer conclusions about the origins of COVID, says Brad Johnson, retired senior CIA Operative and President of Americans for Intelligence Reform. Yet that is what the Director of Intelligence did by stating they agree with the “conclusion” it is not man made. Why? Their job is to collect intelligence, report it to the government leadership and step back. The government decides what to do with the information. Further, it is the job of the scientific community to determine the truth. Instead, the IC leans to the leftist protection of the Chinese Communist Party wishing to exonerate it. They offers no proof of their conclusion either. A.I.R. aims to put the Intelligence Community back where it belongs – collecting information through espionage and objectively reporting it. The left leaning conclusions have to stop. Trump knows this and wants it stopped too.

 

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Brad Johnson it is May the 2nd of 2020
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and the US government in the space of
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about two weeks has both confirmed or if
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not confirmed strongly strongly hinted
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that this virus was an artifact that was
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man-made in the Wuhan lab and then
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strongly flatly denied it saying that
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the intelligence community all said that
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it’s it’s a naturally occurring thing
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but this should be right up your alley
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tell us what’s going on here please yes
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and it’s it’s interesting I mean well
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and as you noted there the last sort of
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entry into this book of flip-flops
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around on the information that’s out
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there or I you say better yet it’s it’s
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not it’s conflicting information and
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what we’re getting is a lot of
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conflicting information everything to do
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with come in nineteen as is is changing
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and evolving constantly and there’s good
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reasons in some cases like the Chinese
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we all know they lie so we all know the
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information coming out of it was bad
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from the get-go and but unfortunately
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here particularly the United States
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we’re seeing a lot of that as well
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because we’re getting just diametrically
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opposed information coming out on on
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this conflicting information the latest
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thing that came out was a unanimous
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declaration by the intelligence
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community that the code 19 was not any
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sort of man-made artifact meaning that
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it’s a naturally occurring disease now
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just going back on this I to me this is
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one of those things where one of the big
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problems we’ve seen out of the
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intelligence community is that that we
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can’t really believe or trust what they
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say and this is one of the things the
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president United States has referred to
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a number of times and this is just kind
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of another iteration of it and when say
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10 to 10 days ago the information was
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out there that there were good
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indications that this is in fact
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man-made and that there are there is
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evidence that it’s man-made
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and the problem with this whole argument
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is that there’s lots of medical people
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out there doctors that work on biology
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and all of these things that are saying
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wait a minute you know this looks
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man-made why are you saying it isn’t and
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this looks man-made why are you saying
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it isn’t and then you sit down and kind
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of dig through the responses and you
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know you you look at them and many of
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them are kind of political responses in
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natures so most of the people that are
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out there saying that coded 19 is not
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man-made or all of the same people that
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were saying that coded 19 was from the
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wet market in China now that’s become
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clear it’s all it’s conclusive now and
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everybody has come out and said that the
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in fact escaped out of that mu hand
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level 4 lab in China so all of them were
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saying that was wrong before and now
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everybody’s agreed pretty universally
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that it’s right you still have a few
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kind of hardcore political types that
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fight that but not really much of
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anybody else so now we have them kind of
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saying now well even though there was
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evidence before now there’s no evidence
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and it there’s no proof of it well you
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know I’m not sure that the intelligence
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community is the place to fight that up
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to begin with I mean my take on it is
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you know who the heck are you guys to
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even have an opinion why are you you
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know even even suggesting that you know
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or don’t know I mean you have you know
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three or four people inside the MU Han
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lab level four or a spy’s reporting back
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to us because if you did then even then
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you shouldn’t be talking about it you
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should be reporting it to the leadership
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of the United States and let them figure
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out what to do with the information so
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it’s just one of those things where I
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just I just don’t it’s very odd to have
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them even comment on this those things
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should be handled in medical channels I
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mean natural Institute for health or
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something or you know those those sorts
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of people the Surgeon General I mean
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those guys having a pen
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on it but they should also be held to
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the same standard that all scientists
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and research institutes are held to give
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us your information let us look at it
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let everybody see it I mean a lot of
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this stuff can be figured out by just
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general people and there’s plenty
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thousands and thousands of people that
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know a great deal of medical information
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doctors and researchers and things here
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in the United States now what we have
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and my real problem with all of this is
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if you look at who’s saying all of this
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stuff all along Oh freak of nature came
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from a bat in the wet market and then
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oops okay that’s wrong okay well now
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it’s not it’s not a man-made thing it’s
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just naturally occurring in yes it
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escaped out of that new handle yeah but
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that’s not suspicious it’s just you know
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happened to escape and it was a
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naturally occurring thing that they were
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studying they were looking for cures so
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all of those people who are saying that
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are following China communist propaganda
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line and all of the people that are
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saying it have a political axe to grind
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they all have that in common and we’ve
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seen over and over and over that the
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intelligence community is deeply
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political and has been very much
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webinars so essentially what they are
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doing is they’re looking at intelligence
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and information that’s out there and it
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goes through the prism of their
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political perspective and out the other
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incomes whatever it is that they’re
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after political consideration whatever
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they’ve concluded okay that’s a problem
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from the get-go
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I mean intelligences should have nothing
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whatsoever to do with politics it’s go
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find out the truth report it and then
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it’s not your problem
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let the politicians be politicians to do
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whatever they’re gonna do with it but
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your job is to stay out of all of that
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and just report the facts and that’s
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just not what we’re seeing anymore and
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this is why they’ve become essentially
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obsolete I mean they just completely
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need to be done from top to bottom and
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we’ve talked about that in in other
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interviews but this coding thing is a
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demonstration of that once again they’re
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commenting areas they shouldn’t be why
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do all the entire elegant intelligence
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community have an opinion to begin with
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I mean none of this makes any sense and
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okay if you’re so certain of it fine
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let’s see your information that’s not
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classified these things are all being
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discussed in public that that
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it’s being shared worldwide fine put it
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out on the table intelligence community
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if you’ve got such a you know ironclad
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opinion on it let’s see why where is it
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you know don’t just say oh I concluded
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this you know great you know we’re so
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glad you’ve made that conclusion but
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nobody gives a flying rats are in what
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you conclude let’s see your proof
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let’s see your evidence let’s see why
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you conclude this because that’s not
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classified that’s not coming out of
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classified information let’s see the
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studies put it on the table and nobody’s
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doing it nobody and none of the
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reporters are asking about it either
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now on the other side of this who do we
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see coming out saying we’ll wait a
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minute look at this look at this look at
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this look at this and these are all
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independent doctors and researchers and
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people like that that have the
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background so the independent people
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that don’t have a voice in in government
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and don’t have a voice in that process
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and don’t have a political axe to grind
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those are the guys that are out there
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saying well wait a minute you know I
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have questions on this this looks to me
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like it’s man-made because of this
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they’re putting their information out on
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the table so who do you want to believe
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on this and this is my question this is
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a standard standard intelligence sort of
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reaction to stuff is what’s your source
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and if you want to believe politicians
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with a political axe to grind or
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organizations that are deeply political
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that have motives for saying what they
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say then and and are not presenting any
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evidence then that’s the story we’re
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getting out of the intelligence
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community if you want to believe the
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people that are independent that don’t
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have an axe to grind don’t have a
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political axe to grind and they’re
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providing their this information at risk
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to themselves you know those are by far
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more credible so I put far more weight
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on those guys than I do on what we’re
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hearing out of the government now
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President Trump aside I love all of this
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because President Trump is kind of
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between a rock and a hard spot on this
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and he’s trying to fight his way forward
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as best as he can into extraordinary
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interesting thing I you know I believe
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we should all try to support President
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Trump as best we can in this mess
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because he’s got you know he’s not a
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scientist he doesn’t know you know
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viruses and the
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you know what’s the truth and what’s not
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based on just what he sees in front of
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him so he’s he’s relying on these people
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and he doesn’t have anybody else to rely
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upon so he’s he stuck and you know
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trying to do the best he can now he sees
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the damage being done by everybody being
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isolated the higher rates of suicides
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and the economy going down and people
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losing their jobs and livelihood and it
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has impact out into the future ripple
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effect out into the future so he’s
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trying to get that back on track as best
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he can kind of holding off everybody all
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around him so again at the at this level
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of just people talking but you know
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everybody should try to support the
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president because as far as I can tell
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other than like independent doctors the
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scientists are talking about Co in 19
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he’s the only guy out there actually
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trying to do the right thing for the
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right reasons and you nobody else seems
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to be they all seem to have some you
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know political ideological ax to grind
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what why could you have any kind of
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direct idea as to why the intelligence
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community would come out and make a
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statement like that as you say totally
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counter intuitively since it’s not the
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kind of thing they should be reporting
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on and considering that French Nobel
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Prize winners in medicine are quite
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confident that it was man-made yeah I
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mean and that’s the thing I mean there’s
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a there’s a large body of people who
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think it was man-made and they present
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their evidence and that’s another
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example of exactly that and they’re
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talking about why they think it and you
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don’t hear anybody in the government
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gonna know that’s wrong because of this
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you know you just don’t see that which
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again you know if you’re not willing to
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pummel up your evidence and you’re
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probably you know full of BS and if you
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are putting up your evidence okay then
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that’s your genuine opinion and you’re
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telling us why so who you know obvious
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who to believe now intelligence
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community one of the things we’ve seen I
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mean that you’d have to be from another
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planet– or an alternate universe not to
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be aware of the fact that the
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intelligence community as as as probably
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a whole I mean another some exceptions
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to this I would maybe and it doesn’t
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matter but certainly we’ve seen elements
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of the intelligence community target
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president Trump both before he became
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candidate once he became Canada
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and then once he became president United
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States and you know we’ve all discussed
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this but we’ve seen elements out of them
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until military elements out of NSA
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elements out of the CIA Ellen’s out of
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FBI elements out of DOJ that’s a big
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chunk of people right in there that have
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been used or were actively trying to
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target President Trump in one way or
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another so again this is this
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politicization I often talk about and
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the weaponization of the intelligence
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community so if you step back and
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analyze it from that perspective I think
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it’s conclusive that their political and
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their political supporting the left so
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why is the left just nationwide
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supporting this concept of it wasn’t
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China’s fault you know that they didn’t
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create this thing on purpose and it’s
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just I think it’s kind of the socialist
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international side deals in many ways
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they just don’t want to go against a
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fellow left-wing you know in this case
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communist dictatorship but they just
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don’t want to go against it but
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philosophically I think this is one of
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those things where the Left views this
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as an opportunity to advance their
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agenda and at the same time trying to
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take out President Trump I there’s just
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no question in my mind that this
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destruction of the economy that’s taking
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place while there is elements of it that
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are truthful trying to save people and
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there are people who are genuinely
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concerned about the health of the people
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there’s also a law a large swath of
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people who are taking advantage of it
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politically and what was the great
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strength of the President President
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Trump it was the economy and so to
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damage the economy to them furthers
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their political goals so the
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intelligence community deeply entrenched
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with the left are fighting for those
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goals they’re fighting to support the
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Democratic Party they don’t care about
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the American people this is one of the
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things I say often we cannot have that
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out of the intelligence community the
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intelligence community needs to be
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completely separate walled off from all
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of that stuff so that the information
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they’re bringing in is unbiased pure
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information reported up the chain of
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command
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and then just keep the hell out of it
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and go on and get the next important
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information data that’s out there to get
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and let the politicians decide what they
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do with it and then they can get
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reelected or not based on their handling
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of the situation that’s how it has to be
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it’s extraordinarily dangerous to see
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this happen
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this is going to be changed very soon
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again something we’ve talked about but
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there are major indictments coming out
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very serious ones that night as I said
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many times these charges that are going
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to come out are approaching the level of
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treason with how fights it was handled
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all of these things we’ve talked about
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everyone’s seen the news about general
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Flynn it’s clear now that you had actual
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FBI and DOJ high-level officials
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railroading this guy lying cheating and
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in order to get rid of Flynn and all for
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political motives and that is absolutely
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the worst possible outcome for what we
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need in the United States for what we’re
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getting in the United States so I think
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it’s just another clear case of this
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politicization and weaponization of the
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intelligence community because as I said
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they shouldn’t be in this arena playing
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at all this should be left to the you
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know the medical people and scientists
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and you know the intelligence community
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find go collect I mean if you if you’re
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finding something that somebody else is
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doing out there and great but again that
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isn’t for you to make the opinion on
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that’s for you to pass to the government
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officials who are in charge of that
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stuff like I said National Institute of
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Health or the Surgeon General or you
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know those sorts of people that they
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need that information because they’ll
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have all of the information to look at
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and that’s not up to them it’s not up to
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the intelligence community’s data a
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decision from the military and the FBI
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or the DOJ
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yeah and I say you know it’s just it’s
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not up to them so stay the heck out of
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it you know shut up and do your job
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soldier on bring the information in pass
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it off and then you know go off to the
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next mission
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