Brad Johnson interviewed on PIJN’s Dr Chaps

Various topics including intelligence reform and the Chinese Communist Party’s handling of COVID19.


the government of china is now
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obfuscating
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their coronavirus reporting they might
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not even be testing their citizens
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for the spread of the virus today we
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interviewed covid19 which has now become
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a global pandemic
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but if they are no longer testing their
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citizens
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for coronavirus that means it’s going to
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spread everywhere
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among a billion people in china
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and the united states is not
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as cnn reported the number one
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country in the world with cases and
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deaths because
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china probably is nobody knows because
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they’re no longer testing welcome to the
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program
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bradley johnson who is an xcia operative
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who leads the organization intel
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reform.org
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bradley welcome to the program introduce
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yourself to our audience
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dr chap so wonderful to speak with you
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uh yes bradley johnson 25 years the
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agency i was in the
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operational cadre which is the overseas
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cadre that does the
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espionage portion of the work that’s
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done at the cia so
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uh that’s my background and now i’m
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president of an organization called as
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you said americans for intelligence
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reform
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and one of our main goals is to
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see the president re-elected now because
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what has happened is the intelligence
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community has been politicized and
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weaponized to use against him now we’re
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also supporters of the president
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but we’re also very much against the
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intelligence community being weaponized
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and politicized
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regardless of who’s president because
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that takes us down the wrong
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track that’s third world and we just
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can’t have it here in the united states
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so
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those are some of the principal founding
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reasons for americans for intelligence
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reform
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i’m totally in support of that mission
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as an ex-intelligence officer myself in
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the u.s air force i was a major in
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the j-2 directorate of u.s spacecom and
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norad intelligence
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i worked every day with people like you
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at dia nsa
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cia and i had a fascinating career top
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secret clearance but
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i so much respect the real spies i was
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never a spy but
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apparently you were in charge of a bunch
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of those and you’ve seen it all
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well i certainly have seen a great deal
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there’s no question whatsoever and yeah
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spying is you know espionage is
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essentially spying so
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as far as you know spotting assessing
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developing and recruiting
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spies for the united states of america
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uh yeah that
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that i have pretty much seen that from
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top to bottom and managed large programs
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of that nature and
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personally been involved in many many
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activities of that nature
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covert action programs the the whole
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gambit well what is
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your observation now of this report
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coming out of china i’m reading on
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bloomberg dot com
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that china has now stopped testing their
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own
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citizens for coronavirus and that means
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i think uh well you tell me what it
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means
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well i i think there’s the one steady
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component of this whole thing that we
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can all count on from the very beginning
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of this and that is that china is lying
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to us
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they’re uh lying about every aspect of
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this they’re covering up the number of
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people that have died they’re covering
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up
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uh how many are sick they’re just
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they’re covering up every aspect of this
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so
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any information coming out of china at
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best can be used sort of to
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report as a trend now what china is
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reporting now this doesn’t get so much
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to the united states
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but on the world stage they’re doing a
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couple of things one of them is that
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they’re reporting that essentially
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the disease is over for them so
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therefore
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uh they can stop doing all of the
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testing and so on so it
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is a propaganda tool from their
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perspective so
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that’s how they’re playing this now uh
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they’ve they’ve then used that to move
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outward and start to supply aid
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to other countries who are suffering
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from this uh wuhan virus
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and so that’s again all part of how
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they’re playing this in propaganda
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and sort of the third level of that
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specific what they’re do
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specific to what they’re doing is
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they’re now trying to blame the united
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states of america for the virus to begin
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with now
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all of that is false i mean you know
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where there is any truth in any of it
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it’s hard to say but i think i heard
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what you’re saying is
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that china is lying they are under
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reporting and they say oh
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we’re done we don’t have any more cases
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when united states
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intelligence reports coming out of china
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our own spy agencies
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three different agents have reported to
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bloomberg
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and other sources without attribution
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they have to speak anonymously because
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it’s classified information
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that china still is incu encountering
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the wuhan virus is still spreading among
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their population
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so how can they claim to be safe when
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they are exporting products
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or people are going back to the
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factories they’re still making
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plastics and glass and steel products
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that are being sold on amazon
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or exported to the united states how can
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they certify that they’re
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being a safe nation when they’ve lied
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about
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stopping the testing of their own
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populace
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yes well i i think the answer to that is
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very straightforward they cannot i mean
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uh we just simply can’t trust it i i
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would
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expect that you can pretty much take any
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number that they give you as far as
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infections go and add a zero at the back
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end of it
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and be closer to the truth in whatever
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they’re saying so
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yes you cannot count on their
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information as being true
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yes exactly i think 10 times the number
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of deaths and 10 times the number of
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people
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sick is far closer to the truth than
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what china’s telling us
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we’re going to take a short break when
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we come back we’ll have more with
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bradley johnson
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on how we can reform the intelligence
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community to make it less political
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this is p i j n news defending your
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religious freedom
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welcome back i’m dr chaff joined again
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by bradley johnson xcia operative leader
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of
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intelreform.org
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bradley i’m concerned now because u.s
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senator
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ben sasse of nebraska has come out
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and rebuked the chinese and actually
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rebuked cnn
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who was reporting chinese propaganda
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and the leftist mantra that the united
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states is the most dangerous most deadly
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most coronavirus in the world in blaming
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trump for this
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but when the truth is according to
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senator ben sasse that
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china remains number one they’re just
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not reporting it because they have
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stopped testing their citizens
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yes i would be uh i think there was a
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great deal of irresponsibility on the
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part of the chinese and
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and many many layers to how that
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that irresponsibility is applied but
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just on
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on you raise a very important point and
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yes
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cnn was rebuked but i would widen that
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net a little if i
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could and say basically who in the
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mainstream
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media is reporting this fairly and i
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don’t think you see anyone
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on the left whether it’s the university
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system which is an important part of
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this
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because of the science aspects which we
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all know has been long controlled by the
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left
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the mainstream media again long
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controlled by the left and the
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democratic party which has been consumed
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by the extreme left
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so all of those groups
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are acting in conjunction and in a sort
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of
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informal uh cooperation with china
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and so you see china’s message being
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picked up and sent by them
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and the reason being i think is because
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the left is unified in the sense that
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they all hate
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trump so using this as an excuse or a
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club to beat trump with
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is the whole goal and we’ve seen that
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you know time after time after time this
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the mueller investigation the ukraine
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phone call any little item that they can
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find
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that they can use to try to criticize
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trump that’s what they’re trying to do
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so uh basically we’re in a situation
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where
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the university reporting the that on the
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science issues the mainstream media
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reporting on the news of it
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and the democratic party who only wants
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to attack trump
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anything they say we all know you can’t
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believe it you can’t trust it
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because what are they going to say if if
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trump would
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push a button and cure this virus they
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would blame him for something else i
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mean
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overpopulation or something they would
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come up with some reason to criticize
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the president
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so there’s just nothing that’s going to
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be done where he will be
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treated fairly by any of those three
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groups so for them to pick up and run
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the run with the ball with the chinese
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that’s who they are so they’re never
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going to report the truth because
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the truth is all bad for china
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well and now u.s congressman adam schiff
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who led the impeachment hearings and
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he’s chairman of the house intel
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committee
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he said we’re going to open another
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investigation against trump for how he
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has mishandled the coronavirus briefings
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meanwhile trump’s
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popularity ratings are now skyrocketing
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he’s up to 60 percent all the
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independents are with him
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all the republicans are with him but
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only 27
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approval rating among democrats so why
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would
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adam schiff now try to open another
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round of impeachment hearings or
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investigating the president
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over the mishandling of the corona
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crisis
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well uh i think the democrats are faced
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with a terrible problem and that
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terrible problem
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is u.s attorney general barr and u.s
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attorney john durham’s investigation
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into the fisa fiasco and that now
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people don’t recognize often that the
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fisa document is not just a law
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enforcement document it’s actually more
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of an intelligence an intelligence
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community document
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because what it does is it it takes
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information that originates with the
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intelligence community
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and there’s a handshake between the
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intelligence community and law
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enforcement
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and then law enforcement picks up this
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case whatever it may be
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and runs with it so that intelligence
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document that was given to a judge to
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get all of these
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original fisa warrants was based on
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intelligence that’s why it’s
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more principally better described as a
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an intelligence document
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rather than a law enforcement document
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so what they did
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again this politization of the
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intelligence community
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played itself out there all of those
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things that they did
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were highly illegal and that is going to
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come out in this report
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and it’s going to be devastating to the
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democratic party
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so they have to build a way to defend
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themselves and the only way to defend
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themselves
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is to constantly attack president trump
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no matter how
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unfairly they’re better off attacking
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him through any means
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than letting things just run forward so
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i was an intel officer
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during the 9 11 attacks we’re going back
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to
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2001 when right after that president
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bush
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initiated the patriot act and for a
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while there
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they were allowed to spy on foreign
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communications that come
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into america and there was some question
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of whether or not that violated the
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fourth amendment
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senator rand paul congressman jim
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sensenbrenner with whom i met
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were opposed to violating the fourth
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amendment of the constitution to spy on
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americans
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but we did that anyway that led to
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abuses during the obama era
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of spying on americans under the guise
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of what they called
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for fisa warrants in other words foreign
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intelligence surveillance act
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that law was set up the foreign
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intelligence surveillance court
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to authorize secret hearings against
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americans
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without even their knowledge without
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their presence
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the obama administration was spying on
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americans listening eavesdropping on
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their conversations if they had a
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warrant from a secret judge in a secret
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court
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now we fast forward to 2020. the trump
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administration
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has been trying to fight the coronavirus
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but they are also having to fight what
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some call the deep state operatives
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within the intelligence community that
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still exists today
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are there operatives do you believe and
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and
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without specific knowledge i don’t want
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you to divulge anything classified that
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you may know
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but are there democrat operatives in the
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cia
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that are fighting against trump so in
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your opinion are there deep state
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operatives
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in the cia that are now opposing
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president trump
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oh yes i mean there’s just no question
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whatsoever i think your question
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actually understates the full scope of
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the problem
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and i i think i mean there’s certain
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things we can all agree upon
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uh former director cia director john
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brennan
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who by the way you were mentioning the
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spying he was actually caught spying on
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congress
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recording their phone calls denied it
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lied about it was later caught doing it
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and had to publicly apologize
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so that same john brennan as we know is
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one of the greatest detractors of
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president trump and
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and appears to very personally hate him
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a great deal
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now the leadership at the cia are all of
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those same people that were the main
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lieutenants under john brennan
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they’re the main lieutenants now with
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the current director
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gina haspel of the cia who was also
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herself a close
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uh friend of director brennan
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in fact when senator mccain john mccain
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from arizona
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died gina haspel went to the funeral
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with john brennan
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they’re very close personal friends and
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i’m sure that there are personal
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discussions taking place between them
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and who knows what they might be
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discussing but not only is it the
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leadership
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it’s the entire pipeline to leadership
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within all of these federal agencies
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they’re all very dedicated leftists
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who hate president trump and we’re going
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to take a short break
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when we come back we’ll have more with
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bradley johnson on how we can reform
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the intelligence community to make it
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less political dr chaps joined again by
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xcia operative bradley johnson who leads
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intel reform.org bradley we’ve
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identified the problem first of all
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china is lying to us
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cnn is lying to us the democrats on the
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intel committee are lying to us
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they’re trying to politicize this and
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now we may have a deep state problem
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within the intelligence community that
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is opposing the re-election of donald
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trump for political purposes
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what is the solution how can we reform
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the intelligence community to be
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non-partisan if there is such a thing
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well it’s it’s an extraordinarily
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difficult problem to be faced with
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because they’ve become so entrenched
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over the last couple of decades that
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it’s a
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it’s a serious problem and all many of
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these political issues that we’re seeing
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today
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are the results of that effort to
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consolidate their control over the
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federal these federal government
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agencies so it’s going to be an uphill
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battle
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i don’t know that anyone has the
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political will to actually even
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face this problem but i can tell you
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some of the solutions
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one of them would be to change how the
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polygraph is done for those people who
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have
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high level uh clearances for the top
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secret
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the tssci full scope poly for those
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people that have that clearance these
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are the people that would be at the
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highest levels of
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nsc fbi cia nsc
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these people part of the questioning
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needs to be
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to ask them questions along the lines
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of what is more important to you your
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oath to defend the constitution of the
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united states
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or your personal political beliefs which
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take precedent
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will you be an activist doing whatever
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it is you think is important
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or will you be a loyal citizen of the
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united states supporting and defending
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the constitution of the united states
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that line of questioning would need to
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be broken down into a number of
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questions
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but that could be included in every
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polygraph test with the snap of a
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fingers
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and that would begin to eliminate a lot
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of the worst of those people
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the second half of that that i would
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implement as in the federal government
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the way promotions are handled
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is very carefully controlled so that
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race color creed
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all those sorts of issues don’t come
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into play so you’re unable to see
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who these people are all you see is
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their record so that they can be judged
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on their record and
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fairly promoted now that’s good but the
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problem is
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the way that the promotions are tied to
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the job that you have
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and where the trip comes in and the way
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that the left has completely
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consolidated control
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over these federal agencies is through
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those who’s assigned
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what job and that that is
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been corrupted so in order to get
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promoted you have to have certain jobs
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but to get into that job so that you can
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be promoted
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they control that manipulate that and
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they only put in their political cronies
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the final point i would make on all of
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this that so that therefore has to be
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done in such a way that they cannot play
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those games and pick their own little
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cronies
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to put into all of these jobs it has to
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be done fairly
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like the promotions are so that people
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are judged on merit
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not their political bias or loyalty to a
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certain political party
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the final area of this would be in the
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hiring practices
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and i’ll mention the fbi not because i’m
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particularly picking on the fbi but
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because they’re more open in their
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hiring practices some of their
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questioning for new
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prospective candidates to be hired are
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things like
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do you want to be a justice warrior well
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what does that mean what that means is
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they’re asking are you a liberal
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democrat or not
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so if you answer no i don’t really want
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to be a social justice warrior
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i want to defend and uphold the
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constitution united states
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they don’t hire you if you say yes i
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want to be a social justice warrior
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then you get hired so i mean those three
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areas are all
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horrible problems that need to be
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overcome and as i said i i
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don’t know if anyone has the political
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will
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to face all of this take it on and start
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making these corrections
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but now the left would would would clow
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cry bloody murder over these sorts of
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things but these are the things that
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need to be done
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and these people cannot be trusted in
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positions of authority in government
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and the reason they cannot be trusted is
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because
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their personal political beliefs take
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precedent over the constitution and the
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national security of the united states
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i totally understand the difference and
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that personnel
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is policy and what i mean by that is
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the people that you hire to hire the
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people that you want
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the hiring people the hr director
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essentially of the cia or
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fbi as you were tank they can bias
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the troops by only hiring leftists
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and social justice warriors as you’re
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saying that
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have democrat leaning affiliation of
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course eventually
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the entire agency is going to oppose a
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republican
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administration even if he appoints top
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level spies like uh secretary mike
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pompeo over the cia now the secretary of
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state
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there’s only so much the top-level
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bureaucrats or the
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administration appointees can do to
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penetrate the deep state
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and replace that personnel is policy
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we’re out of time but i’d like i’ll give
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you the last word what’s your website
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uh my website is uh it’s the
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the organization’s americans for
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intelligence reform the website is
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intelreform.org i can also be followed
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on youtube
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at uh brad johnson air
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and on facebook americans for
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intelligence reform
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amen to that i’m dr chaps and our
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website is prayingjesusname.org
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