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After serving as a senior CIA Operative and Station Chief for 25 years, Brad now devotes his life to his non-profit Americans for Intelligence Reform. AIR’s mission is to de-politicize and de-weaponize intel to protect our National Security.


okay
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excellent welcome ladies and gentlemen
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and anyone else who may be listening uh
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i’m very lucky today to be joined by
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our first uh guest from the cia
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on my channel so that’s very exciting mr
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brad johnson has
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many years of experience working for the
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central intelligence
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agency as a chief of station at various
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stations around the world
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he runs a youtube channel and has a
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website called intelreform.org i have
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included
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but uh mr johnson i just want to uh
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thank you so much for chat with me today
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it’s a pleasure to be here i’m looking
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forward to it
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but before we get into geopolitics and
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current events uh can you just give
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people uh maybe a spark notes of your
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background
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areas of expertise in the cia
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and then where you were stationed as
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well if you could
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uh share that okay i can give some
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general background i i
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don’t talk too much about the specifics
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of where i worked and things uh
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but as far as just going went in and uh
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was in for 25 years into the agency went
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i joined back in the uh
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the ronald reagan days when he was
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president so reaching back into history
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for probably
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many of your listeners but the uh at
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that period of time it had been
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uh the cia had been greatly decimated by
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the
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previous president which uh going back
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again into history was jimmy carter in
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those days and
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he had what was called a riff which is a
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reduction in force
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which most people don’t even know can be
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done but what he did is went through and
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fired
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quite a few people out of out of the cia
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and he was downsizing other
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agencies as well and a bunch of people
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left to
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being unhappy with it with what they saw
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happen
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so that was kind of the first time that
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the cia had been really badly damaged
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uh because of internal politics here in
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the united states
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and reagan tried to build it back up
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because he recognized the importance of
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having
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good intelligence out there in the world
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so you know what everybody else is up to
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which is uh in many ways blamed for how
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we got into world war ii
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and all the problems we had there was
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for lack of good intelligence as to what
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was coming
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uh so join the agency back in those days
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a lot of it is uh training you know
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early on you basically to
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join now i was operations traditionally
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the cia was divided into
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science and technology administrative
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anal
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analytics the analysis and the
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operations
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cadre they were called divisions and now
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that has
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evolved some uh since then but uh
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from my period that was what i was
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involved in was the operations
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operations
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was the part that everything else is
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pretty explanatory operations is the
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part where
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we ran espionage so i was whatever you
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want to call it
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involved in espionage conducting it uh
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you know finding people that that would
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be willing to report to the united
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states on
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what enemy powers or or uh enemy groups
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were up to and what they were doing
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and reporting it back to the you know to
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the powers to be in the united states it
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would go to the
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analytic division and they would analyze
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all sources of information that they got
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and they would produce the
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final product that went to the decision
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makers the
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politicians if you will so my time was
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spent overseas so most of my training
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was
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in the things that uh i i joke around i
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like to say it’s i was one of the guys
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that made things go bump in the night
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and uh you know that’s more or less true
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is
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you know espionage isn’t in broad
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daylight it takes places in odd times
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and
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the wee hours and it could be at any
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time but also covert action those things
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that
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where we’re trying to carry out policies
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using one methodology or another
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overseas someplace but do it in an
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essentially a covert way
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so that our hand isn’t necessarily uh
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clear behind that
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so uh that was my career out of the 25
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years
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almost 20 of it were overseas so i was
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i was hardcore operations cadre guy
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and uh that doesn’t exist so much
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anymore
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and so a lot of the expertise is dying
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away
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as my generation of people die and
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leave and all of that that that
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expertise is leaving us we just don’t
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do business that way anymore which is
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one of the reasons why i founded the
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organization that’s
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americans for intelligence reform the
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website you referred to intel reform.org
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uh was to sort of combat and bring those
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things back because
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uh yes i mean you can look at espionage
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and say it’s uh
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you know dirty business or repugnant or
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whatever you want but
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uh the fact is that the world’s a dirty
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dangerous place in a lot of ways
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and being blind to what’s going on in
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the world
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creates more death and destruction not
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less death and destruction
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so the cia and espionage for the united
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states of america is
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a force for good uh you know it it it uh
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it helps prevent wars and prevents
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killing and
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uh places where people have no respect
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for human rights and stuff as we
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we figure out everything that’s going on
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there report it back everybody knows
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it helps to deter those sorts of
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behaviors so
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i’ll say to you you’d asked as part of
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your question what it was like and uh
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i’ll have to say i i was in the agency
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during the right period because it was a
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buildup period there were
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highs and lows but for the most part the
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period uh
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where my career took place uh
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was and i’m fairly recently retired so
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it’s it changed i left before obama got
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in but
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uh the that period of time was a lot of
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fun so i i
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had uh you know there was danger you
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know involved with it and things i’ve
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been in you know crashing the helicopter
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and been shot at and stuff like that but
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you know outside of the things that are
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like that that you know i don’t think
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anybody
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particularly likes that you know i had a
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lot of fun saw a lot of the worlds uh
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a lot of the truth that goes on behind
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the scenes and we
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got to see uh really you’d be surprised
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at the depth of understanding you can
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develop over time just because you see
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so much
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and also i was on the ground seeing a
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lot of things or behind the scenes
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making things happen and would watch
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what was reported in the united states
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in the news and stuff
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and uh you know in a word the news in
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the united states mostly sucks i mean
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it’s just
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mostly fantasyland nonsense and of
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course if you point out what’s true
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they’re going oh well you’re you know
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yeah you know you’re crazy or whatever
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it’s like okay you know i was the one
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they’re doing and i can tell exactly
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what happened
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and you guys are making up what you’re
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saying and i’m the crazy one so
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it’s it’s a it’s a funny world we live
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in and a lot of the things that
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people think are true aren’t true and uh
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you know who’s writing history and all
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is is
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i guess who’s the political winner gets
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to write the history but
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uh things have changed like i said it’s
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not as fun as it once was and
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uh so i i fit in my career at the
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perfect time and
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and look back at it and and uh with
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great fondness and
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and i have a personally very supportive
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of the cia and i
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i believe and argue now that it’s in a
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greatly weakened state
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so a lot of what i’m pushing for is to
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recreate a far more powerful and
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effective
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cia and what why did you join the cia
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uh mr johnson
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well uh actually it was kind of a whim i
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i would say i you know believe it or not
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i mean i
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these aren’t i it’s a very rare
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background but i came out of business
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and uh banking and uh
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uh so i was even back in those days they
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had the wall street journal so i was
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reading the wall street journal one time
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and
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they ran an ad and this was in that
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build up program that i mentioned during
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the
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reagan and president reagan
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administration and they ran ads in the
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wall street journal i don’t think the
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cia had ever done that before so it was
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a brand new
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technique and i saw it laughed i thought
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it was very funny you know the cia
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advertises
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in the newspaper i mean i thought it was
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funny at the time now it’s what they do
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all the time so it’s
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it’s sort of normal at this point but i
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saw that ad
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laughed at it thought that was very
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funny that the cia would advertise in
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the wall street journal of all places
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threw it away and didn’t think a thing
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of it but you know through four days
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went by and started thinking well you
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know
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that’s that might be an interesting
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career path let me take a look at it and
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so i i tracked that article back down
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after a couple weeks and
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called in and sent in my uh resume and a
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letter and
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got called back and went through the
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process which is it’s not fast it takes
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even in those days
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it takes about a year and now it takes
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you know about that amount of time so
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rarely does somebody apply and just get
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hired and in i mean it does happen but
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it’s rare
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right and then they have to do full
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background check to get you clearance
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all those sorts of things so
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it takes time uh but that was basically
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it it was sort of on a whim i
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and like i said my first thing was that
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it was funny and the second thing was
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well
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maybe that would be fun and interesting
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so applied got accepted and
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and here i sit what would you
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say in terms of advice or
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recommendations to a young person
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who is thinking about joining the cia
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well uh i do get asked that question
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quite often
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um and i would say
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uh you know you have to be what they’re
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interested in
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so for example having language skills
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and
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having some travel experience or having
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technical skills
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uh you know having a background in those
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sorts of things
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uh would be you know what appeals to
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them and you can kind of
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you look on the website it’s cia.gov you
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have to apply through cia.gov now
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there’s there’s no other way and you can
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see in there that
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what their priorities are what they’re
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looking for and what their interests are
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so you can kind of gauge your background
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with that but
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in general terms for example area
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studies
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uh you know a degree in a certain area
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of the world or a certain subject matter
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like
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let’s say you know nuclear weaponry
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technology that sort of thing
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uh plus some language skills plus some
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travel experience and
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those sorts of things they’ll they’ll be
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interested in in
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your background basically look at it as
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a checklist if you can check off enough
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things on that list of interest they’ll
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hire you
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so assuming you can get a security
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clearance
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who would you not recommend uh try to
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join the cia
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or or uh try to follow that career path
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well that’s an interesting question uh
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you know 20 years ago i would have given
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a very distinct answer
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nowadays uh you know i’m not sure the
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philosophy
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involved has changed and back in my day
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it was it was
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uh the objective was to get people in
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and keep them for a career
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nowadays the youth people like your
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age if i may uh by
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in in the business fields they’re looked
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at
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uh differently they’re looked at as far
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more um volatile and changing where
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it’s rare now for a young person to like
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pick a career
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study that in school get out of school
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go into that job at a company and stay
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there
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that’s just not a career path anymore
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and people want to get out work
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someplace for year two or someplace else
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for a year or two and
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you know jump around between jobs so
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that is part of the culture of today of
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the youth and it’s so it’s
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it is a reality that has to be dealt
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with
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so um a lot of people go in get
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experience for two or three years and
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move on now
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in that kind of environment working at
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the cia
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no matter what you do is going to be
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good onward experience so i wouldn’t
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necessarily
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discourage anyone from uh from applying
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and trying to
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work a stent in the in the cia i mean i
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would say if you’re
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you know like you know been in a gang
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and doing gang banging and you know deal
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drugs and all that kind of stuff you
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know
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i would discourage those guys but you
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know for just like normal american
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person
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uh you know politics aside it depends on
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what your interests are but
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i i don’t think i would discourage
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anybody as a whole
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okay okay excellent uh and you talk
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about intel
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reform what do you see is wrong with the
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cia today mr johnson
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well i would say it’s the caa but it’s
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also the intelligence community the
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intelligence
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community is actually 17 government
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agencies which each
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uh branch of the military counts as one
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but you’ve got
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state department dea fbi cia nsa
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all of these together form the
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intelligence community and
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the bottom line problem is that the
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intelligence community has become
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highly politicized and highly weaponized
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and if you just if you take a
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dispassionate look
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at what we’ve been through since trump
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declared himself candidate for president
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we’ve seen the entire system
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be manipulated by people particularly in
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the cia and fbi in the leadership level
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and what they did for example the fisa
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warrant as soon as that fisa warrant
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fiasco came out i read the
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redacted version of the fisa warrant and
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that’s the
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you know what was used to spy on the
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trump campaign and later the trump
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presidency
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and i knew instantly what had happened
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because i’m familiar with all that stuff
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so the redacted stuff
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i knew what was underneath it and i knew
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that it was based on a completely false
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report
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because i’m familiar with all this stuff
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so this
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steel dossier that’s not how
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intelligence works that
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you know we don’t even use the word
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dossier i mean so everything about it
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was wrong from the very beginning
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so guys like myself we all knew that the
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whole thing was bs from the beginning
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and it went through the mueller
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investigation and has gone through all
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these iterations
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every bit of that is false and it’s even
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the premises false
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the premise is basically that the
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russians want to manipulate the
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elections in the united states okay
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fine that you know i that there is some
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truth to that
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but by trying to recruit this guy and
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the campaign
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and uh by trying to attack the way that
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the voting machines work or any of that
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stuff that’s all bs all from the very
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beginning
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i knew instantly like i said i knew his
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bs because
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it’s legal and here’s what most people
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don’t realize it is 100
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legal for russia to interfere in u.s
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elections
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the re the way that it’s legal is
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lobbying
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russia lobbies in the united states
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paying millions of dollars a month every
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month
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month after month year after year and
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through that lobbying they’re able to
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impact elections and policies
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legally they do it legally so why would
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you go to all the trouble and expense to
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have this
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very complicated convoluted plan to do
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intelligence things over here that have
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almost no chance of working
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when you can just legally lobby and that
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has a very high chance of working
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so i mean this whole russia collusion
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thing is
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stupid in every way but you have to know
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enough to be able to judge all that
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but once you put it in context like
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right here as soon as i say it’s
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perfectly legal for
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russia to interfere in u.s elections by
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using lobbying
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everybody hopefully is looking at that
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going you know holy crap that’s right
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you know yeah they can do that and china
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lobbies
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just to cut in uh mr johnson uh citizens
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united is that what makes that
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uh illegal no the
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the the congress passed law lobbying
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laws and those lobbying
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laws allow foreign countries to come in
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and lobby so if russia wants to come in
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and lobby for
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uh i i you know i don’t know what a
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let’s just pick a hot button
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subject for biden you know it doesn’t
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matter what it is and a hot button
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subject for trump
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biden backs this one and trump backs
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that one and they come in and lobby for
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the one backed by biden they’re
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interfering with elections
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but that is legal under law passed by
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congress
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u.s legislation lobbying in the united
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states by foreign countries
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is legal and they
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impact on u.s policies and elections
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every day of the week you know 365 days
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a year
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through these lobbying efforts they have
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guys running around i mean i forget what
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it is but i think
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i think russia pays 12 million dollars a
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month
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a month for lobbying turkey pays
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something like that
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china pays something like that you start
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adding these this stuff
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up foreign countries probably are
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spending you know i’ve never added it up
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but they’re probably spending
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200 million dollars a month in the
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united states for lobbying
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and you know it would be stunningly
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naive to think that doesn’t have impact
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on elections and policies and all those
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things united states
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so again like i say this whole thing
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this whole fisa fiasco was
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it was trash from the very beginning all
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the people like myself who have the
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background
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experience to look at all these aspects
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of it everybody knew
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but yet you had the intelligence
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community creating it
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and backing it all along all along
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now they’re disgraced they’ve all been
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fired uh they’ve already had one
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indictment these guys are all going to
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indictment most of these guys like
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jim comey and and the rest are probably
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all going to end up in jail
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because what they did was so uh well
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actually this is on the rare website
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you got john brennan loretta lynch sally
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yates james clapper james comey
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andrew mckay bruce orr peter strzok lisa
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page
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susan rice rod rosenstein and four other
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undisclosed high-level
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former cias all on various accounts
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of lying perjury conspiracy to overthrow
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government
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uh and these are the people principle
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you’re talking about
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that’s exactly correct and uh so
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what happened and the problem with this
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is and here’s the politization part
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i initially referred to whether they get
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indicted or not doesn’t matter
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the fact is they acted on their own
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political beliefs and this
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is the activists we have everybody’s
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heard of activist
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judges but we also have activist
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intelligence
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professionals and law enforcement they
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are activists well what does that
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actually
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mean what that actually means when you
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have an activist judge what that means
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is
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he doesn’t care what the laws are he
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doesn’t
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feel that he needs to follow the laws
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what he believes
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or she uh that he should do is
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what his political beliefs dictate now
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that’s
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stunning that’s incredibly important and
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that’s exactly what we have here
19:49
with you when you saw peter strzok in
19:50
particular because he’s been so
19:53
deeply entwined in all of this he knew
19:56
that there was no justification under
19:58
the law
19:59
to launch an investigation of trump it
20:02
shows in his own notes from his emails
20:05
and text messages that he knew
20:09
and yet he went ahead with it anyway he
20:12
went ahead with it anyway because he’s
20:14
an
20:14
activist law enforcement guy he doesn’t
20:17
care what the laws are
20:19
what he cares about is what he thinks is
20:22
politically correct what is the right
20:24
thing to do based on his personal
20:26
politics
20:27
he puts his personal politics above the
20:30
law
20:31
and acts on what he believes is right
20:33
which is that
20:34
activism the activist judge activist law
20:36
enforcement now
20:38
that has permeated uh the intelligence
20:41
community
20:42
and that is dangerous and wrong
20:46
it’s dangerous in so many ways but it
20:49
shows how
20:50
uh this political corruption that exists
20:53
at those senior levels
20:55
has permeated and lets them go down
20:57
paths
20:58
that make us like some third world you
21:00
know no nothing country someplace
21:03
where you have all these shenanigans
21:05
going by behind the scenes where there’s
21:07
one set of laws for people like you and
21:08
me
21:09
and another set of laws for the guys
21:11
that have power and
21:12
that’s the road that they’re headed down
21:14
that is the road to totalitarianism
21:17
because whoever’s in charge can use
21:19
those
21:20
organs of power to destroy all of his
21:22
political enemies
21:23
the irs can be used and was used to do
21:26
that
21:26
and we’ve seen the intelligence
21:28
community was also used to do that
21:31
so that must be eliminated and
21:34
just uh today or yesterday uh president
21:37
trump made a comment about
21:39
uh china wants joe biden to win and so
21:41
they’re you know that’s
21:42
they’re backing that horse if you will
21:44
and china has come out said a lot of
21:45
positive stuff about joe biden
21:47
so i mean it’s true the toughest guy in
21:50
the history of the united states on
21:52
china
21:53
and since world war ii is president
21:56
trump
21:56
so why would china want president trump
21:58
to win so we all know
22:00
china wants biden i mean there’s this
22:02
doesn’t require any insight or knowledge
22:05
or
22:05
anything we all know china would rather
22:06
have biden he’s going to be more
22:08
you know pliable and trump is kicking
22:11
their butt all the time
22:12
so they they don’t want trump so trump
22:15
openly acknowledges that
22:16
what and you have the intelligence
22:17
community guys coming out saying oh you
22:20
know you’re
22:21
trump is just trying to to avoid talking
22:24
about
22:24
russian collusion well you know that guy
22:28
is highly political we already know
22:30
russian collusion is bs we know that all
22:33
that stuff about china is true
22:34
and you have this intelligence community
22:36
guy coming out
22:38
basically trying to help joe biden out
22:39
of this out of this mess
22:41
so that that the intelligence community
22:44
should not be involved in u.s domestic
22:47
politics
22:48
they should not be involved where they
22:51
need to be active
22:52
is looking out overseas finding out the
22:55
next time that al qaeda or
22:57
isis wants to put a bomb in a building
23:00
and kill a few hundred
23:01
innocent civilians that’s what they need
23:04
to be going after
23:05
the next time say turkey wants to start
23:07
a
23:08
war with greece or something and plan to
23:10
do it
23:11
that’s where they need to be finding out
23:14
who’s going to start a war and start
23:16
killing people that’s where intelligence
23:18
needs to be
23:19
so this corruption that’s drawing all of
23:22
our energy away from where they should
23:24
be looking
23:25
and turning it to internal politics is
23:28
wrong and dangerous
23:29
it will and has gotten people killed
23:32
and it’s going to continue to detract
23:35
from our capability
23:37
to keep an eye on the rest of the world
23:39
to keep the world and our nation safe
23:41
and let me say
23:43
us national security
23:46
is the most important national security
23:49
in the world
23:50
the reason is because of what we
23:52
represent if we had wanted to after
23:54
world war ii we could have taken over
23:56
the world
23:57
oh yeah we could have done it easily we
23:59
didn’t do it
24:00
why we don’t want to take over the world
24:03
all of the opportunities we’ve had to
24:04
really step in and take over countries
24:06
we’ve never done it because we that’s
24:09
just not what we’re
24:10
after that’s not what we’re doing so
24:13
every time
24:14
u.s national security is strengthened
24:16
and made better is better for the entire
24:19
rest of the world
24:20
because what we represent is those all
24:22
those other countries
24:24
are not so easily subject to being
24:26
conquered by some other country nearby
24:29
and there’s case after case after case
24:31
we can talk about
24:33
uh iraq under saddam hussein trying to
24:36
conquer kuwait and all of that and we
24:38
stepped in and stopped it
24:39
we didn’t keep kuwait we invaded it took
24:42
it over
24:42
we could have kept it but we didn’t we
24:45
gave it back to the kuwaitis
24:47
and left that was the first iraq war and
24:51
uh those guys were all grateful and
24:52
better off for it what would they have
24:54
been what was their life been like
24:56
go ahead oh i was just gonna say why do
24:58
these guys these these
25:00
brennans and comey’s instructs why
25:03
are they so politicized now and they’re
25:06
trying to
25:07
advance their own interests um is it
25:09
specifically because of trump would you
25:11
say or what’s the motivation do you
25:12
think
25:14
well it’s political it’s what we’ve seen
25:16
now oh
25:17
i i don’t know how i won’t go to i’ll
25:19
try not to go too far back into the
25:21
history of it but essentially
25:23
what we’ve seen during the
25:26
the uh democratic presidential
25:29
administrations jimmy carter bill
25:32
clinton
25:32
and uh barack obama uh we’ve seen the
25:36
bureaucratization of everyone after
25:38
world war ii this started out in state
25:40
department u.s uh department of state is
25:42
is very very very liberal left-wing uh
25:45
organization and
25:48
uh the problem with leftist philosophy
25:51
is
25:51
the way they judge situations and if you
25:54
if you look at all of those
25:55
administrations
25:56
for example who do they pick to be
26:00
say in charge of economic issues if you
26:02
look at a republican because
26:04
republicanism conservativism is
26:07
this is the one of self-reliance uh
26:10
freedom of the individual all of those
26:12
sorts of things within the philosophy
26:15
who you pick is who you think is the
26:17
most competent
26:19
that’s acceptable and that’s who you
26:22
pick like for example trump pick
26:24
larry kudlow larry kudlow like him or
26:26
hate him whatever he’s got a lot of
26:27
experience and
26:28
is highly competent guy in the world of
26:30
economics he knows his stuff
26:32
and helps spearhead the one of the
26:34
greatest recoveries of the economy
26:36
that the united states has ever had
26:37
where we saw the lowest unemployment for
26:39
blacks hispanics and
26:41
other minority groups since days that
26:43
since the first day records were capped
26:45
now that was what you saw under reagan
26:47
for example but under a bill clinton and
26:49
barack obama
26:50
that’s not how they pick the people to
26:52
fill those slots
26:54
they don’t care what that person’s
26:56
background in economics
26:58
are is what they care about is he
27:01
politically loyal
27:02
because that’s the leftist philosophy
27:05
you want
27:06
people who are loyal to the party first
27:09
their experience is secondary and it’s
27:12
the exact reverse
27:13
so under that philosophy the people that
27:16
were put into power during those periods
27:17
of the democratic administrations
27:20
they judge who they put in that pipeline
27:22
to leadership
27:23
and the way they judge who they put into
27:25
that pipeline to leadership
27:27
is based on party loyalty so you have
27:30
all these leftist extremists that have
27:32
gotten into that pipeline
27:34
and have ended up as leaders now from
27:35
all these previous periods of time
27:37
and i’ll say i mean something that most
27:40
people don’t focus on but james comey
27:42
the former cia director
27:44
and john brennan the former cia director
27:48
both talked about in their past having
27:50
voted for the communist party
27:53
they both were essentially communists
27:56
now
27:56
how the frack did those guys get into
27:58
those positions of power
28:00
not on competence not on their
28:03
experience
28:05
they were picked because they were very
28:08
loyal to the leftist
28:09
philosophy of the party so that’s how
28:12
they got picked
28:13
that is one of the central issues
28:15
affecting federal government today
28:17
and again that’s one of the central
28:19
issues that i try to address at all
28:21
times
28:21
and and doing these interviews and stuff
28:23
i try to
28:24
put as much information out on this as i
28:26
can because people need to
28:28
understand that now i i don’t care if
28:31
you’re a democrat or a republican
28:33
you have to look at or an independent
28:35
for that matter but
28:36
you have to look at the power that
28:38
resides within these federal agencies
28:40
and say
28:42
you know do you want them to be
28:43
politically driven because my friends
28:45
that’s a two-edged sword
28:46
that can cut either way or do you want
28:49
them to be a political servants of the
28:51
people
28:52
and i am of the ilk that i want them to
28:56
be a political
28:57
servants of the people doing the
28:59
business of the united states of america
29:02
and staying the hell out of politics and
29:04
what we have now
29:05
is all these guys are in politics all
29:07
the time out of the military out of the
29:09
irs out of the cia out of the fbi
29:12
uh they’re they’re just like today like
29:14
i said there was this guy that was a
29:15
former high level guy in the
29:17
intelligence community out
29:18
you know bad-mouthing trump you know
29:20
that does not belong those
29:21
that needs to be stopped because it
29:24
takes us
29:26
to third world status and to
29:28
totalitarianism
29:30
because what it means is that the powers
29:32
of the federal government
29:33
can be used for personal political
29:36
beliefs
29:37
and if i come to power as president of
29:40
the united states which i have no
29:41
political ambition
29:42
not gonna happen but if i did and and
29:45
that was my i
29:46
that was what we were living under i
29:47
replaced everybody in all of those
29:49
those agencies with my henchmen and if
29:52
if your show is extreme left wing
29:54
you’re done you’re you know the irs will
29:57
get you whoever will get you that i need
29:58
to get you to stop your show
30:00
and that’s what we see ourselves edging
30:02
into that’s wrong like i said it’s a
30:04
two-edged sword
30:05
i don’t care if you’re a democrat or
30:06
republican or independent you have to
30:08
look at this as
30:08
bad we have to get rid of all that stuff
30:11
it’s just
30:12
it’s too much we can uh
30:16
modify or adjust the cia we don’t have
30:19
to dismantle it because i have heard
30:21
xcia uh operatives say they think it
30:24
should be completely dismantled and the
30:26
new
30:27
uh new intelligence agency uh created
30:30
but you think we can
30:31
there’s still a chance to save it to
30:33
salvage it
30:36
well the answer to that question is
30:37
actually fairly simple
30:39
the cia cannot be fixed with who’s there
30:42
uh could it be fixed yes but not with
30:44
who’s there
30:45
and so my actual recommendation it’s
30:48
something i’ve talked about publicly
30:50
before
30:50
but my recommendation is right now we
30:52
have a director of national intelligence
30:54
which is
30:55
you know uh as useful as one more word
30:58
on a warthog i mean we just
31:00
it was this thing created for political
31:02
reasons going back a little bit
31:03
following 911
31:05
you know where the twin towers in new
31:08
york bought
31:09
uh you know destroyed by the airplanes
31:12
they created a commission of a bunch of
31:14
politicians it was lawyers
31:16
academics and politicians so they were
31:19
all
31:20
what non-operators none of them had ever
31:22
done
31:23
with maybe an exception of a year or two
31:24
here or there you had this group of very
31:26
senior older people
31:27
that had a lot of bureaucratic
31:29
experience but no direct operational
31:31
experience
31:32
so what did they come up with more
31:34
bureaucracy
31:36
we refuted taking a bunch of guys like
31:38
myself you’ve taken a bunch of military
31:40
operators
31:40
a bunch of law enforcement operators a
31:42
bunch of pure intelligence operators
31:44
like myself
31:45
put us on a commission what we would
31:47
have come up with was practical
31:49
solutions to these problems and we would
31:51
have destroyed
31:53
terrorism but what they did is they
31:55
created the department of homeland
31:56
security
31:57
director of national intelligence but be
32:00
that at as many
32:00
as it may we’ve now got a director of
32:02
national intelligence so
32:05
as soon as that was invented it was
32:06
meant to be like a dozen people
32:08
kind of overseeing and administering
32:10
intelligence to make sure it ran
32:11
smoothly
32:12
instead it started to grow pretty soon
32:14
it was 100 people
32:15
then a couple hundred people then
32:17
hundreds and now thousands
32:19
so it’s just growing it’s just one more
32:22
layer of bureaucracy
32:23
so what i would do is try to kill a
32:26
couple birds with one stone
32:27
i would take the dni put him over at the
32:30
cia
32:31
make him in charge of all analysis
32:34
for the government i mean other people
32:36
would have some too but make the central
32:38
intelligence agency
32:39
the center of analysis for the
32:42
government
32:43
and put him in charge of it i would take
32:45
the operations
32:49
efforts 100 out of the cia because it
32:53
just can’t be fixed with who’s there i
32:54
would take it away
32:56
i would absorb the intelligence out of
32:57
the military absorb the intelligence out
32:59
of the cia
33:00
and create a new organization uh that
33:04
would handle all of the
33:05
uh that would handle all of the
33:07
espionage and covert action for the
33:09
united states of america
33:10
as a as a separate organization and that
33:13
would
33:14
not have anything to do with analysis
33:16
they would be in completely two separate
33:18
agencies
33:19
because one of the worst mistakes we
33:21
ever made was
33:22
to embed them with each other because
33:25
they cross contaminate
33:27
and what you want is complete separation
33:31
of all your operations so nobody knows
33:33
who those spies are that we have around
33:35
the world
33:36
and we keep them safe but their
33:38
information gets over to the analysts so
33:40
they can
33:41
use it to figure out what’s going on in
33:43
the world and pass it up to policymakers
33:45
to the politicians
33:47
and that and i i will say since that
33:50
went away
33:50
one of the things that has happened is
33:52
year after year after year after year we
33:54
see all the agents that working for the
33:56
cia get killed
33:58
there’s always some excuse so it’s
33:59
communications problems
34:02
they’ll die well what the frack good is
34:04
that i mean
34:05
that’s stupid none of that stuff would
34:07
have happened on during my days on
34:09
our watch it just wouldn’t have happened
34:11
because you don’t have
34:13
analysts calling up people who report to
34:17
us overseas
34:18
you don’t have the separate
34:19
communications you don’t have
34:21
people running operations that are
34:24
analysts and it’s very important to
34:27
understand
34:29
that operations discipline
34:32
is uh requires a lot of experience and
34:35
time to develop
34:36
it’s not easy to run espionage but now
34:40
it’s treated as like well anybody can do
34:41
it
34:42
and so what happens like i said just
34:44
look at the last 10 years
34:46
and you know the what did we have i
34:48
think there were 19
34:49
chinese spies supposedly working for the
34:51
cia
34:53
uh which everyone says is true they were
34:56
pulled out of their office taken out the
34:57
front door and shot on the front
34:59
sidewalk executed for spying for the cia
35:03
and another five or six were arrested
35:05
tortured and later killed
35:06
well so 20 some odd people were wrapped
35:09
up in a single day
35:11
or it was a short period of time and it
35:13
was because of the
35:14
communications program that was no good
35:17
and they were all using the same
35:18
communications program i mean just stuff
35:20
that would have never ever ever happened
35:21
before
35:22
so there’s this whole thing is a mess
35:26
it’s not working well as i said it gets
35:28
people killed and killed all the time
35:30
and there’s a lot of other stories like
35:32
that and i’ll mention one more
35:34
there was a bombing in in coast and it
35:37
was
35:38
on the iraqi uh i’m sorry the
35:42
afghanistan border and it was where they
35:44
were looking for osama bin laden back in
35:46
the days before osama bin laden got
35:48
killed
35:49
and what happened is they had this
35:52
source that was going to come in and
35:53
tell us where osama bin laden was
35:55
so they greeted him and two semi-circles
35:58
with like the
35:59
main group of people in the front and
36:00
then another line of people behind them
36:02
and that guy walked into the middle of
36:04
and went and blew himself up and killed
36:07
six or seven people and wounded another
36:08
six or seven more well
36:12
that person who is in charge there who
36:15
was
36:15
it was a base it was coast base uh
36:19
was an analyst she was the chief of base
36:22
which is an operations position yeah the
36:25
the female station chief who
36:27
uh i heard someone say she kind of got
36:29
appointed without much training and it
36:31
was kind of a political
36:33
diversity hire would you agree with that
36:37
yes yeah i mean that’s it so i mean no
36:39
fault of hers and i don’t blame her and
36:41
she gave her life for her country
36:44
but that’s management’s fault that girl
36:47
and those people
36:48
are dead because management decided that
36:51
having operations people in operation
36:53
slot is no longer important i mean
36:56
stunning stupidity
36:58
i mean it is a separate discipline it’s
37:01
you know the
37:02
the comparison i like to use the
37:04
metaphor if you will is a brain surgeon
37:06
brain surgeons now okay also case
37:09
officers are not as smart as brain
37:10
surgeons but
37:11
it’s still a highly specialized
37:12
discipline and you don’t want to go
37:15
to uh you know a dentist who extracts
37:18
teeth
37:18
and get brain surgery right because
37:21
that’s not their discipline they don’t
37:23
have that training
37:23
experience it’s the same thing to put
37:26
analysts in ops positions any operator
37:31
no matter how almost no matter how
37:32
junior because of the training you get
37:34
and the experience you get you know
37:36
you don’t meet this guy with 14 or 15
37:40
people standing around him in a circle
37:41
because you don’t know who
37:43
precisely he is and he could just as
37:45
easily be a guy
37:46
who’s going to blow himself up which is
37:48
what happened and so
37:50
you would have him searched before he
37:53
even comes in there
37:54
but there was nobody there with that
37:56
operational experience not one
37:59
cia trained operations officer was
38:02
involved
38:03
not one they were in the slots
38:06
but that wasn’t their background again
38:09
this is the type of decision this is how
38:11
decisions are made today that gets
38:13
people killed
38:14
and before that’s management uh mr
38:17
johnson
38:18
uh like so a guy like brennan for
38:21
example
38:21
what’s his loyalty who is he loyal to is
38:24
he only loyal to john brennan
38:28
well no i mean i think in that sense
38:30
he’s loyal to the party
38:32
i think he’s loyal to barack obama uh
38:35
i think you know just watching him he’s
38:39
on
38:39
msnbc and uh npr
38:42
and things like that and i would say
38:44
he’s got some
38:46
uh pretty wild sort of
38:49
delusional ego kind of things going on
38:52
in his head
38:53
but i’ve i’ve never met him in person
38:56
i’ve been where he’s been at certain
38:58
events and
38:59
have listened to him speak and things
39:01
like that
39:03
so i i he’s one of those people that i
39:06
look at and this is very common most
39:08
people
39:09
analyze him about the same is that how
39:11
did that guy
39:12
ever get in the position of being in
39:14
charge of the cia he was so
39:16
clearly over his head and and just not
39:19
competent to be able to to work at that
39:21
level but
39:22
the reason he did was because he was an
39:24
apparatchik he was part of the
39:25
party uh you know he was a uh staffer on
39:29
the hill
39:29
and and knew barack obama and so he was
39:32
a party loyalist in the party
39:33
and that’s again it’s that selection
39:35
process he was not picked to be cia
39:38
director because he was
39:40
competent he was picked because he was
39:42
loyal to the party
39:43
and he had a little bit of background in
39:45
the cia so it was perfect for them
39:47
because the emphasis is royalty not
39:50
competence and then as far as this
39:53
pandemic and lockdown mr johnson what
39:55
are your
39:56
thoughts on this whole covid pandemic
39:59
and lockdown situation we find ourselves
40:01
in
40:03
well interesting interesting too i mean
40:05
i i don’t think
40:06
anyone believes that there’s not
40:09
politics involved with this
40:10
so uh i have a lot of questions about
40:14
just all of that i i don’t think i have
40:17
all the clear answers to all of it
40:19
because
40:19
you have so many factions pulling in so
40:22
many directions
40:23
it’s not just two sides pushing it’s a
40:25
whole bunch of factions pushing in a
40:27
whole bunch of directions so
40:28
a couple of things that really worry me
40:30
that that we’ve seen
40:32
first of all we all know we all can
40:34
agree on certain basic things
40:36
china has lied to us all the way along
40:38
we all know that
40:40
this was apparent in china
40:43
in december that it was a problem
40:47
they had already been infected they
40:48
already knew it was coming yet they said
40:50
nothing
40:51
so it was surprised on the world now why
40:54
my
40:54
personal theory is uh because the
40:57
chinese new year
40:59
is the biggest holiday in china and they
41:01
make billions of dollars
41:03
in income from travelers coming to china
41:05
for chinese new year well
41:07
kobe hit just before that they didn’t
41:09
want to turn
41:10
off and shut down chinese new year
41:12
because they need the hard currency
41:14
so they went ahead and went through it
41:16
and allowed the new year to go and
41:18
after that in january is where you
41:20
started to see news come out about this
41:22
so my theory is that that’s why they let
41:26
this go so long
41:27
was because of the money uh kind of a
41:30
cold decision to make right because a
41:32
lot of people have died around the world
41:33
for this
41:34
but they haven’t come back yet mr
41:36
johnson so that i think that does make
41:37
some sense though
41:39
for sure yeah yeah and of course what
41:42
they did is people come from all over
41:43
the world to china chinese new year then
41:45
they all go home
41:46
and suddenly one day we woke up and
41:48
kovid was all around the world
41:49
hmm you know makes you makes you go hmm
41:52
and you know it’s it’s one of those
41:54
things usually it’s
41:56
power or money that makes the world go
41:58
round
41:59
sometimes it’s sex but it’s almost
42:01
always power and money
42:02
and so in this case i think it was the
42:04
money
42:05
and so the china just has never told us
42:08
the truth on any of this they’re
42:09
manipulating all the time
42:11
i follow their propaganda and the stuff
42:12
they put out so i watch their little
42:14
propaganda videos about how they’re
42:16
trying to save the world and this was
42:18
some
42:18
accident so we don’t know there’s a lot
42:21
of
42:22
information out there about this virus
42:25
that does not suggest it naturally
42:28
occurred
42:30
we know for example absolute facts
42:33
that china over the last 10 years has
42:36
had their both military and civilian
42:39
intelligence agencies
42:41
working on virus issues we had the
42:45
a chinese head of the uh
42:48
level four lab in calgary get sent home
42:51
for spying for the chinese what were
42:54
they studying there
42:55
coronavirus we’ve had several labs here
42:58
in the united states
42:59
have the same problems they got arrested
43:02
and caught some of these people are in
43:03
jail today
43:04
for stealing vials of samples of what
43:07
viruses so this is over a 10-year period
43:10
so 100 we know
43:12
their intelligence agencies were working
43:14
on viruses for a very long time
43:16
where do they all go back to wuhan their
43:19
level 4 lab
43:20
in wuhan the origin of this virus so
43:24
let me just in case there’s any doubts
43:26
on anybody’s mind
43:27
ladies and gentlemen boys and girls
43:29
chinese intelligence
43:31
and chinese military intelligence do not
43:34
work
43:34
on cures for a virus they work on
43:38
bioweapons they work on weapon system
43:41
they steal technology they do not work
43:44
on cures
43:45
for a virus so why were these guys
43:48
stealing all that stuff
43:49
why does it all lead back to wuhan and
43:51
then why did this originate in wuhan
43:53
now is that proof that they
43:57
built this virus on purpose and or at
44:00
least we’re in the midst of working on
44:02
it on purpose and it escaped
44:03
or was it released on purpose i mean i’m
44:05
not arguing that this is proof
44:08
but i would say to ignore the evidence
44:12
knowing that chinese intelligence was
44:13
working on viruses
44:15
all that going back to wuhan and then
44:16
this escaping from mohan
44:18
to ignore that is idiocy because clearly
44:22
that means something and nobody’s
44:25
looking at how to figure out what that
44:27
means
44:27
another part of that we’ve seen our
44:30
institutes and universities
44:34
come out and say all this stuff about
44:36
this virus being man-made
44:38
a created uh you know a
44:41
virus or anything that’s all you know
44:43
wild speculation there’s no proof
44:45
there’s no evidence
44:46
all of those places as it turns out
44:48
we’re getting money from china
44:50
they had people on their board members
44:51
bringing in millions of dollars worth of
44:53
grants
44:54
and those are the people that are under
44:57
the influence of china
44:58
that are the ones arguing that there’s
45:00
no evidence that this is a man-made
45:02
virus
45:03
the independent people are those voices
45:05
that you hear out there
45:06
saying well wait a minute you know i
45:08
don’t know for 100 for sure but this is
45:10
weird this is weird this is weird
45:12
that is an indicator that this was a
45:14
manufactured virus
45:15
not a natural occurring virus it needs
45:17
more study so
45:18
you see you look at those two things and
45:20
go and by the way the fbi if there’s any
45:22
doubts
45:23
uh we just saw the the head of the
45:25
chemistry department
45:26
at uh harvard i believe it was stanford
45:29
harvard i think
45:30
who’s uh in jail now i think he he was
45:32
arrested
45:33
and indicted for spying for the chinese
45:36
and we’ve seen about two dozen
45:38
uh people chinese working for the
45:40
chinese yes
45:42
and they’ve been kicked out of both the
45:44
institutes and the universities
45:45
for working with the chinese and that’s
45:47
the source
45:48
of the people that are telling us this
45:49
is not man-made it’s natural
45:52
well again i don’t look at this and say
45:55
okay you know that’s proof this is
45:56
man-made
45:57
but it’s evidence you know it’s it’s
45:59
something to to ignore it would be again
46:01
stupid but yet it it nobody
46:05
like talks about this openly now this
46:07
virus stuff is hard
46:09
hard science and people can figure it
46:12
out but we need to look at it
46:14
rationally and openly put it all on the
46:16
table and figure it out
46:17
and get the politics the hell out of
46:19
this so we can all learn the truth
46:21
was this manufactured by china you know
46:24
i don’t know i don’t think anybody here
46:27
is 100
46:28
for sure but there’s some good
46:29
indicators that it was
46:31
there’s some indicators that it wasn’t
46:33
too so
46:34
all that has to really be looked at and
46:36
figured out but yet that’s
46:38
that’s not what’s happening so you know
46:40
i i look at all this and just see all
46:42
i see is level of politics after level
46:44
of politics
46:45
i see i’m being lied to by a lot of
46:47
people and
46:48
i don’t like any of it but you know
46:50
what’s the way out i’m not sure
46:52
and it’s very convenient for the
46:54
democratic party
46:55
to have the economy be destroyed and to
46:58
have to all wear mass and to restrict
47:00
and if you look at the map of the states
47:02
where
47:03
democratic governors are in charge the
47:06
economies are worse
47:07
and the controls over the people are far
47:09
more stringent
47:12
and in the areas where it’s republican
47:13
controlled the economies are far
47:15
stronger with less rules
47:17
and you don’t see that a difference in
47:20
the corona if anything on the average
47:22
the coroner’s burst
47:23
worse in the democratic areas so what
47:26
does all this mean
47:27
you know and it’s it’s so complex and
47:29
there’s so much to it and so many people
47:30
are pushing and pulling in
47:32
all these different directions and so
47:33
many people are lying
47:35
you know i don’t know but it pisses me
47:37
off i’ll put it that way the whole thing
47:38
pisses me off
47:39
i know i’m being lied to you it’s just
47:41
like how do i figure out what exactly is
47:43
true
47:44
and you know who do you trust on this i
47:46
mean i don’t trust any of those a-holes
47:48
not one of them
47:50
yeah and uh well certainly not bill
47:52
gates
47:53
yeah yeah let’s pivot mr johnson i
47:56
wanted it because i saw you post uh at
47:57
least one video about mr jeffrey
48:00
epstein of the infamous uh and galena
48:03
uh i wanted to know your thoughts on the
48:05
epstein saga
48:09
well uh you know i’m i’m definitely a
48:12
kind of a law
48:12
order sort of guy so uh any form of
48:15
pedophilia is
48:16
you i’m gonna you know you can predict
48:18
where i’m gonna fall on the issue
48:20
i’m not gonna like that sort of thing i
48:22
i just i think that’s that’s wrong
48:24
and epstein got away with a lot of stuff
48:26
for a long time he was involved with a
48:28
lot of politicians and important people
48:30
i find his death very
48:34
suspicious again i i don’t know
48:37
there’s mixed information coming out of
48:39
all of this i find it very unlikely
48:41
that a guy like that would commit
48:43
suicide
48:45
i find his suicide supposed suicide
48:47
again very suspicious i don’t know
48:49
but he did bad he did illegal activities
48:53
and he was using it i think to
48:56
make money and i think what he did was
48:58
he would ingratiate himself with people
49:00
in power
49:01
including bill clinton bill clinton had
49:02
a lot of trips on the uh
49:04
lolita express the airplane
49:07
and to his private island and what bill
49:10
clinton came out with is
49:11
is just vintage clinton’s he came out
49:13
and said oh i only met him you know
49:15
twice at blah blah blah blah blah blah
49:17
and was on the plane once but that was
49:18
to go to this non-profit blah blah blah
49:21
and but what he did is he defined a
49:22
period of time he said in that period of
49:24
time this is what happened
49:25
but in the year before that you know he
49:27
made 25 trips on the lolita
49:30
express and went to his private island
49:31
10 times so i mean it’s
49:33
it’s it’s one of those things where
49:35
that’s the type of guy that epstein
49:37
i believe targeted and he would bring
49:40
bill clinton little girls which you know
49:42
we all know that would appeal to bill
49:43
clinton i mean there’s no
49:45
you know that’s the kind of guy he is
49:47
and a lot of other people too
49:49
including prince andrew and different
49:50
people that like being around these
49:52
very attractive little girls and uh
49:55
so once he had him in it was like yeah
49:58
dude cut me in on that business deal
50:00
i want to make another 100 million over
50:02
here over here so i mean i think that’s
50:04
where he made his money
50:05
i don’t think there’s tremendous mystery
50:06
to it i think he was very
50:08
shrewd and cruel and selfish in that
50:13
and used little girls to get in the
50:15
pants and these rich people
50:17
and take advantage of that relationship
50:20
then
50:20
to get cut in on their business deals
50:23
and i think that’s where he made his
50:24
money and
50:26
that was him now uh his um
50:30
his girlfriend i don’t know what the fbi
50:32
has said about
50:33
her maxwell
50:36
is that uh they’ve already got a lot of
50:38
videos and tapes and stuff like that so
50:40
she doesn’t have much to negotiate with
50:42
i don’t know i’m not sure what to think
50:45
of of her
50:46
role in this whole thing but if she
50:48
comes out and says everything she knows
50:51
there’s going to be a lot of people in
50:52
trouble so
50:54
again she was one of those i i said this
50:56
before epstein got killed
50:58
that that if epstein gets killed it’s
51:00
going to be very suspicious but they did
51:01
it anyway
51:02
so it makes me think that maxwell uh if
51:05
this is
51:06
an indeed was a murder she’s got to be
51:08
on somebody’s short list because
51:10
she knows a lot of names a lot of people
51:12
a lot a lot of guys that were involved
51:14
with these little girls
51:15
and women by the way she was also
51:18
you know would have sex with these
51:20
little girls too so
51:22
uh anyway i think it’s a very
51:26
you dirty business i don’t like any of
51:28
it i hope they all get caught
51:30
i hope the information comes out i hope
51:32
she you know sings like a little birdie
51:34
and gives all those names up and i don’t
51:35
care if they’re republicans
51:37
i don’t care if they’re democrats i
51:39
don’t care who they are
51:40
if they’re out doing that stuff i hope
51:42
she sings like a birdie and we get them
51:43
all put them all in jail
51:45
and uh somewhat related uh what are your
51:48
thoughts on
51:49
israel
51:53
well uh
51:56
you know the situation in israel is
51:58
always precarious i
51:59
i my basic argument to anyone would be
52:03
in in the form of a question and that is
52:06
is the united states
52:07
safer and better off with a
52:10
democratic israel in the middle east and
52:13
i think pretty clearly
52:14
the answer is yes and uh
52:18
it just it just makes the world that
52:20
little bit more stable
52:22
so i’m very pro-israel i want israel to
52:24
continue to exist i don’t believe they
52:26
should be destroyed
52:27
uh which is what a lot of the world
52:30
argues
52:31
uh i was very happy to see president
52:33
trump
52:34
bite the bullet and move the embassy to
52:37
jerusalem
52:38
i thought that was actually kind of the
52:40
right move it’s you know this
52:42
vote to do it but then never enact it
52:43
sort of halfway crap you know either do
52:45
it or don’t do it
52:46
and we voted to do it so just go ahead
52:48
then and do it
52:49
and we’ve seen some great progress kind
52:52
of as a result
52:52
of some of this backing and this sort of
52:55
new way of viewing
52:57
israel and uh for example this
53:00
peace treaty that just got uh approved
53:03
between
53:04
uh united arab emirates uae and israel
53:07
i think that’s a wonderful step forward
53:09
i think in many ways it’s a recognition
53:12
of a change in the power structure in
53:15
the greater middle east
53:16
area with turkey having become a very
53:19
aggressive country
53:20
which the head of the mossad came out
53:23
and mentioned like three or four days
53:24
ago
53:25
that that very thing that turkey used to
53:27
be an ally of theirs but now they’re not
53:30
and they’ve become a very aggressive
53:31
expansionist radical islamic
53:33
republic which i think is accurate and
53:36
so you’ve seen a lot of countries nearby
53:39
now start to look at turkey with a lot
53:41
of trepidation and fear
53:44
and i think that’s part of the reason or
53:46
a reason why uae was willing to
53:48
negotiate a peace treaty with israel
53:50
you’ve seen egypt kind of come down on
53:52
that side
53:53
and they’re fighting turkey in
53:56
uh libya uh you and there’s
54:00
fighting going on with the turks in
54:02
syria against the kurds
54:04
uh the turks are fighting in azerbaijan
54:07
in the goron karabaw region against the
54:09
armenians who are backed by russia
54:11
i mean they’re moving in just now in the
54:13
last few days they were caught
54:15
moving a lot of ammunition and militia
54:18
type troops into northern lebanon
54:20
lebanon is in meltdown and it’s being
54:22
kind of
54:24
you know absorbed by iran and turkey
54:28
now in the north uh so i mean they’re
54:30
just very aggressive expanding and the
54:32
arab countries are looking at all this
54:34
arab countries used to be under the
54:35
domination of the ottoman empire
54:37
stuff that for us as ancient history is
54:39
very fresh in their minds
54:41
and they’re afraid of all that so you’re
54:43
seeing the arab countries start to look
54:44
at this whole turkey thing and go oh
54:47
oh boy you know let’s let’s get ready
54:49
because there’s problems forming here
54:51
you know there’s
54:52
there’s clouds on the horizon and uh
54:54
turkey has repeatedly
54:56
repeatedly threatened to go to war with
54:58
greece
54:59
uh for them to be able to drill in the
55:02
greek islands for
55:03
uh gas and and uh oil product or you
55:06
know
55:07
deposits that are there so they’re going
55:09
to do it they’re going to fight over
55:10
that i just don’t see
55:12
turkey backing down so israel
55:15
is also you know again it’s a bastion
55:17
out in that area of the world
55:19
it’s one in which we can see people
55:21
start to
55:22
coalesce around them which is to
55:25
our uh is positive for us in the united
55:29
states
55:29
again where you can see say egypt and
55:32
uae and
55:34
saudi arabia and israel and these
55:36
countries all start to sort of work out
55:38
their problems
55:39
and unite with each other against a
55:41
common enemy
55:43
that’s good you know that’s good we
55:44
don’t want people who start wars
55:47
we want people who try to maintain peace
55:49
democracy
55:50
trade all those things so uh it’s it’s a
55:53
good force so
55:54
in the general sense i’m pro-israel are
55:56
they a perfect ally
55:57
they’re not uh there’s a guy sitting in
56:00
jail right now
56:01
uh whose name escapes me but he’s
56:03
sitting in jail because he was uh
56:06
conducting espionage against the united
56:07
states of america an american
56:09
citizen with a clearance that was spying
56:12
for israel
56:15
that part is one of them sitting in jail
56:17
i think still was he the one spying for
56:19
israel i’ve kind of forgotten
56:21
but he was i think you have the name
56:23
correct
56:24
pardon was a spy that was arrested and i
56:26
think he was the israeli one but
56:28
don’t hold me to it i i think that’s
56:30
right though check that afterwards uh
56:31
but i
56:32
i wanted to ask you how what do you
56:35
think of their treatment of the
56:36
palestinians
56:38
as far as i mean you see i’ve seen
56:39
videos of you know snipers shooting
56:42
palestinian boys and uh you know you got
56:45
the maiming
56:46
children and stuff like that and it kind
56:48
of seems like there’s an apartheid going
56:50
on over there and
56:51
what are your thoughts well those things
56:54
are a two-way street
56:55
and i’ve spent a lot of time in that
56:56
area of the world and
56:58
uh very familiar with the kind of the
57:00
ins and out outs of it
57:03
you know there was a period back in the
57:05
clinton days where they took a look at
57:07
the palestinian authority and that was
57:10
yasser arafat was still alive back in
57:12
those days
57:13
and yasser arafat said our list of
57:15
demands is this this this this this this
57:18
this
57:19
the israeli prime minister and clinton
57:21
took one look at that you know they’re
57:22
going oh my god that’s a
57:24
terrible list but okay so they went to
57:27
yasser aircraft and said
57:28
okay we’ll give you everything on your
57:30
list we’ll give you everything you want
57:32
let’s go sign the peace treaty and nasa
57:35
arafat said
57:36
no no now i want all this other stuff
57:39
and
57:40
he even getting everything he asked for
57:42
everything on his list he got
57:44
he wouldn’t sign a peace treaty why well
57:47
the reason is again like i said it’s
57:49
power and money
57:50
yasser arafat knew that if he signed a
57:53
treaty
57:54
and became this palestinian authority in
57:56
these small lands of palestine
57:58
he would be like a local mayor in a
58:00
small town he’d be nothing
58:02
he’d be pulled off the world stage where
58:04
he’s getting money from all these arab
58:06
countries
58:07
he’s worshipped around the world gets to
58:09
go all these different places
58:11
it’s not to the palestinian advantage
58:14
for the people in power
58:16
to have peace they’ve always turned it
58:18
down they always come up with more
58:20
requirements
58:21
it is their methodology because they
58:23
don’t want peace
58:24
so what do they have to do they have to
58:26
keep things stirred up and going and
58:28
fighting
58:28
to keep the situation uh prominent
58:32
and uh and relevant so the
58:35
impetus for this comes from the
58:37
palestinians
58:39
now finance you know are there excuses
58:42
for it and justifications yeah
58:43
there i think there are some but
58:45
nevertheless you have to look at
58:47
who who’s creating the impetus for the
58:50
violence
58:51
and it’s not the israelis it is the
58:53
palestinians
58:55
and they also blast rockets down on
58:58
schools and hospitals or whatever a lot
58:59
of
58:59
innocent israeli jews also get killed
59:03
by the palestinian attack so it’s a
59:06
two-way
59:06
street where one of the people in there
59:10
is
59:10
is the instigator of the vast majority
59:13
of the violence
59:15
and they have no interest in peace so
59:18
the balance of negative judgment has to
59:21
come down on them
59:22
now do innocent palestinians get hurt
59:24
and killed and stuff yes
59:25
do the israelis greatly mistrust them
59:28
yes
59:29
do the israelis have reason to greatly
59:32
distrust them
59:33
the answer is yes to all of those so i
59:36
again i mean i does turkey have a re you
59:40
know
59:40
some reasons to feel that they’re
59:42
entitled
59:43
to drill in greek waters they do they
59:46
have their reasons they believe in very
59:48
strongly
59:49
but they’re still the aggressor and
59:52
they’re going into greek waters
59:53
to steal greek resources they’re just
59:56
they believe they’re justified
59:59
it’s a very similar situation with the
60:00
palestinians and again i’m
60:02
i’m i i don’t i’m not trying to present
60:06
the israelis as
60:07
you know angel perfect anything they’re
60:09
not but
60:10
in the if you take this all in balance
60:14
israel would be very happy to have peace
60:17
and there’s a lot of solutions being
60:19
knocked around a two state
60:21
a one state there’s they would they
60:23
would go with almost
60:24
any peace solution but the palestinians
60:27
will
60:28
not so uh again i
60:31
you know it’s it in balance looking at
60:33
it fairly
60:34
there’s more guilt on the part of the
60:36
palestinians for no peace treaty
60:37
than there is on the part of the
60:38
israelis for those peace treaty so uh
60:42
it’s a it’s a it’s a
60:45
you know i don’t want to use a bad word
60:46
but it’s a you know it’s a goat robe
60:49
i’m not sure there’s a great solution
60:50
out there for us i wish there were would
60:53
love to see
60:53
you know peace in that region it would
60:55
take a lot of pressure off a lot of
60:57
things
60:58
and uh support for terrorism would be
61:00
cut in some ways too so
61:02
i would love to see it but as long as
61:05
one party just absolutely will not agree
61:06
to peace you can’t have peace
61:09
both sides have to be willing to have it
61:13
before we sign off here mr johnson i
61:15
wanted to ask you
61:16
about uh law enforcement
61:19
uh as we uh we spoke a bit before the
61:22
show about it um
61:23
and uh yeah what are your thoughts on
61:25
everything that’s going on right now
61:27
with
61:27
uh the uh police in the united states
61:34
i think this is an absolute travesty now
61:37
and
61:37
as i i mentioned to you basically i’m a
61:40
law and order kind of guy because if the
61:43
judicial system and law enforcement work
61:45
in a country
61:46
that country can function and live i’ve
61:48
lived in countries
61:49
where law enforcement in the judicial
61:51
system was basically
61:52
whoever had either most guns or the most
61:55
money could buy off law enforcement
61:57
could buy off the judges
61:58
and would prevail we don’t want that
62:01
that
62:02
that that’s bedlam chaos murder
62:06
uh and you just don’t want that so we
62:08
want these systems to work
62:10
and again you have to take this in
62:11
balance are police perfect
62:14
no do police certain police do really
62:18
dumb things like just the optics of that
62:21
knee on the throat
62:22
of uh mr floyd
62:25
you know oh god you know what a what a
62:28
dumbass cop that was
62:30
i mean i’m sorry i he deserves his day
62:32
in court he gets his
62:33
he should have his chance to prove his
62:35
case or not there’s some information out
62:37
there that mr floyd was badly messed up
62:39
and
62:39
on drugs and was going to die anyway i
62:42
you know i don’t know
62:43
that’s what courts are for let him go
62:45
through it but that knee on the throat
62:46
thing
62:47
and him saying help i can’t breathe and
62:49
all that sort of stuff oh my god
62:51
are cops like that no that was one guy
62:54
if you compare law enforcement as a
62:57
whole
62:58
compared to the u.s population
63:01
as a whole you have fewer criminals
63:04
within law enforcement
63:05
than you do within the population as a
63:07
whole
63:08
as a percentage so by and large
63:11
law enforcement are good guys trying to
63:14
do the right thing doing a good job now
63:18
they have some things i don’t like and
63:21
you had a video up of some guy sitting
63:23
in his car that got
63:25
his window broken and pulled out of his
63:26
car and things like that and
63:28
i think one of the pieces that you had
63:30
done now that again it isn’t a good
63:32
optic but what did you have that guy
63:34
doing
63:34
what you had that guy doing was defying
63:36
the police now he was doing it in kind
63:38
of a polite way
63:39
and you know non-confrontational and
63:41
wasn’t yelling he was calm and all that
63:43
but it doesn’t change the fact that he
63:45
was defying the orders of the policeman
63:47
when the policeman you know has you for
63:50
whatever reason
63:51
you just you have to comply and that’s
63:54
the laws are all set up that way
63:56
now afterwards you can sue them you can
63:58
fight them in court you can do whatever
64:00
you want
64:00
and there’s plenty of backing that
64:02
you’ll get for that but that’s the time
64:04
when you do it
64:05
and everyone needs to understand that
64:07
that’s that’s how
64:08
we keep our system up and running and
64:10
working at the time when the police
64:12
officer says
64:13
you know give me your id or turn off
64:16
your engine or you know get out of your
64:17
car and come over here
64:18
you have to comply and then that is the
64:21
law
64:22
so by not complying you’re breaking the
64:24
law and even if you’re breaking it being
64:26
polite
64:26
and being nice and you know being gentle
64:29
in how you speak and all that it doesn’t
64:30
change those facts so
64:32
that’s a good example i liked that
64:34
example because of
64:35
you know i felt sorry for the guy but
64:37
you know he’s being an idiot
64:38
you know i would say a very immature
64:40
reaction to the to the situation he
64:42
should have just got out of his car
64:44
and just faced the music for whatever it
64:45
was and made the best out of it
64:47
and if he had a case against the cops
64:48
it’s afterwards now
64:50
a lot of these cops uh and what’s
64:52
happening and and some of the statistics
64:54
that you see
64:56
there are more policemen law enforcement
64:58
being assassinated today
65:01
than there are cops shooting unarmed
65:03
black men in the united states today
65:05
more cops are dying than unarmed black
65:08
men
65:09
and a lot of the stuff that their people
65:10
were there
65:12
johnson oh that’s been in the news a lot
65:15
that’s that’s all over
65:16
if you and you can look it up how many
65:18
policemen were assassinated this past
65:19
year and it was
65:20
uh 24 or 8 or something like that and
65:23
and how many unarmed black men were shot
65:25
and it was i don’t know what five or
65:27
three or something like that very few
65:29
it wasn’t close and for example like
65:32
that guy that just ran to his car that
65:33
was what two days ago three days ago
65:35
that got
65:36
shot and he’d had a long rap sheet had a
65:39
lot of confrontations with police and
65:41
fights with police
65:42
had already been fighting for the police
65:43
and went to his car and opened the door
65:45
and they tried to stop him from doing it
65:47
he reached in had a knife
65:48
was pulling it out uh you know that’s
65:52
you what do you think’s going to happen
65:53
that’s not an unarmed man
65:56
behaving and is just innocently standing
65:58
there talking to his family and gets
65:59
shot
66:00
that’s not what happens and these things
66:02
like hands up don’t shoot
66:04
that case that guy broke the skull of
66:07
the policeman in the car
66:08
and was wrestling to get his gun and
66:11
that policeman ended up shooting him in
66:12
most of those cases
66:14
the truth is quite different than what a
66:17
very small segment reports on it so
66:19
if you actually go back and look at it
66:21
you know most of these things
66:23
are are are justifiable
66:26
kills if you want to put it that way
66:28
which is kind of cool but
66:30
your tasers or tackled him while he had
66:33
their back to him i mean he took his
66:34
time going around the car there i think
66:38
he did but they didn’t know what he was
66:39
going to do i mean you have to look at
66:41
this
66:42
if you stand back and with hindsight
66:44
watch the whole tape you could say
66:45
well right at that point they should
66:46
have tased him well okay that’s easy to
66:49
do but when you’re in an emergency
66:50
situation and i’ve
66:51
i’ve lived through situations that are
66:53
dangerous you know you don’t
66:55
have the benefit of hindsight that those
66:58
none of those cops knew that he was
67:00
going to go around open the door and
67:01
pull out a knife
67:02
how did they know that they can’t read
67:04
the future we knew what he ended up
67:06
doing
67:06
and there was probably along the lines a
67:08
bunch of other stuff that could have
67:09
been done
67:10
had you known what was going to happen
67:12
but not knowing you always have to look
67:14
at this is what did that guy know at the
67:15
time
67:16
he didn’t know what that guy was going
67:17
to do he just didn’t know
67:20
and i think what they were trying to do
67:22
is subdue him without being too rough i
67:24
think that was what it looked to me like
67:25
they were trying to do
67:26
because they didn’t just walk up with a
67:28
baton and smack him in the back of the
67:29
head
67:30
they could have done that too you know
67:32
in hindsight
67:33
you know maybe that would have been the
67:34
better thing just walk up a little you
67:36
know
67:37
knock him down on the back of the legs
67:38
knock him down but that’s
67:40
so judged as police brutality now
67:44
uh but that guy would have been alive if
67:46
they had done that versus what happened
67:48
uh that these policemen were being
67:49
really careful they were trying not to
67:51
joshua they were trying to get him to
67:53
submit verbally
67:55
you know turn around give us your hands
67:57
you know you’re under arrest stop
67:58
stop stop and he did not and went for
68:00
the for the night
68:01
well you know
68:04
i understand how that ruffles feathers
68:06
and people look at this as something bad
68:08
by the police but in the it
68:10
is not those police were following their
68:12
training
68:13
as soon as somebody reaches for a deadly
68:15
weapon and let me say
68:17
this is shown in all statistics
68:20
everywhere
68:20
if you’re within seven feet of somebody
68:23
a knife is more deadly than a gun
68:26
and this is in training all over the
68:27
world the cia gets it the
68:29
military gets it they all law
68:31
enforcement get it
68:32
if you’re within close range a knife is
68:34
more deadly because you can stab a guy
68:36
five times while the other guy’s still
68:37
trying to draw his gun to fire
68:39
and that’s it is a fact and
68:42
and trains to everybody so that guy with
68:45
a knife
68:47
a foot away from the law enforcement guy
68:49
was very dangerous
68:51
and you don’t know who else he would
68:52
stab and kill who else could he get to
68:54
so whenever it gets to the point that
68:57
the guy you’re trying to arrest and
68:59
subdue
69:00
gets lethal force in his hands you have
69:03
to stop it
69:04
and even tasers can be lethal if i was
69:07
standing over
69:08
somebody or a law enforcement guy who’s
69:10
standing over somebody and just tased
69:11
him over and over and over you can kill
69:13
somebody that way
69:14
so it can be used as a deadly weapon and
69:16
i mentioned the other guy that
69:18
was apparently stoned or drunk or
69:20
whatever and fell asleep in the uh
69:22
drive-through lane of the wendy’s and
69:24
they called the wendy’s called the cops
69:26
on him and
69:27
he got out and started fighting the cops
69:28
and and he pulled out he stole a taser
69:30
and tried to shoot the
69:32
pop with the taser and that and the and
69:34
the cop returned fire and shot him
69:35
uh i think i don’t remember that guy
69:37
lived or died forgive me i’m
69:38
it’s a case that took place a few months
69:41
ago
69:42
but that’s it that’s if the if if the
69:45
guy that they’re trying to arrest
69:47
gets deadly force in his hand that is
69:50
where the cops that’s where the line is
69:52
drawn
69:52
for the cops to draw their weapon and
69:54
drop him and in all of these cases
69:56
that’s what’s happened
69:57
if you do not put yourself in the
70:00
position
70:01
where you have deadly force available to
70:03
you they’re not going to shoot you
70:06
if you do they will shoot you so
70:09
you can’t look at any of those cases and
70:11
say the guy who died
70:13
was completely innocent you have to look
70:16
at it and say
70:17
the preponderance of of
70:20
reason why that guy is dead is on his
70:23
own shoulders
70:24
you know don’t draw a knife on a cop you
70:27
know
70:28
one last question
70:35
just last question on police uh what
70:37
what do you think of
70:38
qualified immunity for police do you
70:40
think that is
70:42
uh something that should be removed or
70:45
do you think that’s uh
70:46
fine uh fine by you so as it stands
70:48
today
70:52
well uh
70:55
you know problems with terms like that
70:57
is they’re they’re they’re manipulated
70:59
and used a lot of different ways
71:01
i i would just define it this way if the
71:04
policeman follows his training
71:06
and follows his procedures and does
71:09
properly what he was trained
71:11
to do then at least that
71:15
officer you you have to look at where
71:17
the burden of responsibility falls and
71:19
you remember the case in
71:20
coast that i talked about okay that girl
71:22
that was there that got everybody blown
71:24
up
71:24
she was the one that got blown up but it
71:26
wasn’t her fault
71:28
because she wasn’t prepared for that
71:29
type of position it was management’s
71:31
fault
71:32
i would make a similar argument for law
71:34
enforcement if they did what they were
71:36
trained to do
71:37
follow the procedures as they were
71:38
trained to do and did everything right
71:40
but that man dies and it was wrong they
71:43
did something wrong as a result
71:45
whose fault is that that’s not their
71:47
fault that’s management’s fault
71:49
because they taught them wrong then now
71:52
nobody teaches
71:53
knee on the throat but that guy did knee
71:56
on the throat
71:57
he did it wrong some of those other cops
71:59
are saying hey let’s set him up and
72:00
stuff
72:01
if he had take gotten off that guy uh mr
72:04
floyd
72:05
taking his knee off the throat set him
72:07
up
72:08
or even stand him up and he died anyway
72:12
i would say those cops are clean because
72:14
they did everything they were supposed
72:15
to do
72:16
that guy also fought the cops and they
72:19
they subdued him handcuffed him and then
72:21
would have sat him up and
72:22
you know and he’s sitting there if he
72:24
drops over dead well you know
72:26
if you drop over dead and you’re just
72:27
sitting there well you know why is that
72:29
my fault you know that’s
72:30
that’s something else going on there so
72:33
i could have been an injury
72:34
but you know again don’t fight the cops
72:37
if you don’t want to get injured you
72:38
know it’s
72:39
you you have to understand that person
72:41
would would have to shoulder the
72:42
majority of the blame for getting in a
72:44
fist fight with cops
72:45
and what do you think is going to happen
72:48
you’re going to get you know you’re
72:49
going to be subdued
72:50
so you know that’s the thing if the
72:53
policemen are doing what they’re
72:54
supposed to do if they’re doing what
72:55
they’re trained to do
72:56
and the result is considered negative
72:58
that’s not those police officers fault
73:01
that’s the management fault they need to
73:03
train the procedures change the
73:04
procedures and retrain the cops
73:06
to do the things properly so is that a
73:09
qualified immunity i mean yes it is
73:12
uh and and they’re hiding in that sense
73:14
behind their training
73:16
but that’s where those that’s political
73:18
you know we elect those people that make
73:20
a lot of those decisions so
73:21
if that guy and management if that
73:23
police chief and mayor
73:24
are making the wrong decisions and
73:26
they’re training the cops in a way that
73:28
gets people innocent people killed
73:29
well that’s their fault i mean the cop
73:31
is doing what he’s trained to do
73:33
so i think under circumstances like that
73:36
it is not
73:37
correct in any way legally morally or
73:40
whatever
73:41
to blame the law enforcement officer and
73:43
in most of these cases like i said
73:46
those law enforcement officers are
73:47
following those procedures
73:50
which is as i mentioned the bad guy gets
73:52
a
73:53
a lethal weapon in his hand you have to
73:56
stop the situation
73:57
because a lot of cases that can escalate
74:00
and you want to avoid innocent people
74:01
getting killed
74:02
both ways that and how many times we’ve
74:04
seen in drive-by shootings and
74:06
guys firing guns in different ways for
74:08
different reasons
74:09
innocent people getting killed and those
74:11
sorts of cases happen all the time too
74:13
so the police
74:15
by and large are saving lives
74:18
and making us as safe as we can be
74:22
so it’s a tough job uh you
74:25
and and there needs to be recognition of
74:27
just how
74:28
difficult that is and some leeway in the
74:32
law
74:32
if they’re doing their job properly to
74:35
not be
74:36
not be unfairly charged
74:40
do you have any final uh asks of the
74:42
audience uh mr johnson i know you got
74:44
your website intelreform.org
74:47
uh we got your youtube channel and we uh
74:49
both have about similar size
74:51
audiences uh mr johnson i really enjoyed
74:53
this talk uh talk today learned a lot
74:56
and i’d love to do it again if you’d be
74:58
up for it i help you grow
74:59
uh grow your channel and and likewise
75:02
maybe have a
75:03
mutually beneficial youtube uh chat
75:05
going on but yeah any final
75:07
requests or asks of the audience to
75:09
check out your website or
75:10
or other things articles etc
75:15
uh no i i would appreciate if everyone
75:18
has the opportunity to go to you know
75:20
youtube i’m on facebook and
75:22
twitter and uh and by the way i’m
75:25
throttled on twitter
75:26
for whatever it’s worth and i do have my
75:28
some of my stuff get censored by
75:30
by youtube and things like that so i do
75:32
get targeted those ways which
75:34
i would say to everyone listening i mean
75:36
if you you may not like
75:38
my opinion you may not like the way i
75:40
say it but i think i i present a
75:42
rational argument for why i say what i
75:44
say
75:45
so on that basis if anyone disagrees
75:47
that’s great if it’s just
75:48
call me names which that happens
75:49
sometimes too i don’t really care
75:51
i’ve been called worse it’s so it’s fine
75:53
but i would say everyone please feel
75:55
free to go look on
75:56
on any of social media i’m usually
75:58
everywhere but certainly the website
76:00
is the main probably the main repository
76:02
of information and
76:03
feel free to follow we do put out little
76:05
kind of newsletter things to people so
76:07
uh appreciate any interest and i suspect
76:10
that
76:10
that uh your audience is younger than my
76:13
audience as i said
76:14
so uh to have uh have some younger
76:16
people come in and take a look would be
76:18
uh would be kind of nice i
76:19
i appreciate the give and taking
76:21
comments and the feedback on
76:22
youtube and some of these discussions
76:24
are really lively so
76:26
i i enjoy the give and take and that and
76:29
uh
76:29
and i’m willing to listen to the
76:31
opposite perspective of people that
76:33
lay out their arguments so i’m glad to
76:34
hear it so anyone can feel free to go
76:36
check it out at
76:37
intel reform.org awesome
76:40
awesome uh we’ll do it thank you mr
76:42
johnson and as i stated
76:44
at the beginning of our chat all of mr
76:46
johnson’s links are in the description
76:48
box below of this video
76:50
uh so people can check out all of his
76:52
socials channels
76:54
etc i want to thank everybody for tuning
76:57
in
76:59
stay frosty folks cheers to all our
77:01
patriots worldwide
77:03
not just uh americans but uh canadians
77:06
australians uh our british folk
77:09
and anyone else who may be listening as
77:12
well
77:12
uh cheers and until next time folks
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