OAN interview with Christopher Hull PhD, reform for intelligence agencies

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when I was researching this issue it

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when I was researching this issue it

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when I was researching this issue it
seems to me there are very few people

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seems to me there are very few people

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seems to me there are very few people
especially in politics who are willing

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especially in politics who are willing

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especially in politics who are willing
to identify what the problems are and

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to identify what the problems are and

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to identify what the problems are and
suggest reforms one of these few people

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suggest reforms one of these few people

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suggest reforms one of these few people
that who is suggesting refer reform is

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that who is suggesting refer reform is

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that who is suggesting refer reform is
Fred flight’s he’s a frequent guests on

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Fred flight’s he’s a frequent guests on

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Fred flight’s he’s a frequent guests on
this show he’s also the former chief of

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this show he’s also the former chief of

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this show he’s also the former chief of
staff for John Bolton II worked for the

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staff for John Bolton II worked for the

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staff for John Bolton II worked for the
national security advisory office and

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national security advisory office and

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national security advisory office and
this is what he wrote and I want to read

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this is what he wrote and I want to read

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this is what he wrote and I want to read
this he said although the 2004

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this he said although the 2004

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this he said although the 2004
intelligence reform and terrorism

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intelligence reform and terrorism

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intelligence reform and terrorism
Prevention Act created the position of

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Prevention Act created the position of

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Prevention Act created the position of
the Director of National Intelligence as

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the Director of National Intelligence as

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the Director of National Intelligence as
a new official to US intelligence

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a new official to US intelligence

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a new official to US intelligence
agencies to ensure that these agencies

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agencies to ensure that these agencies

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agencies to ensure that these agencies
would cooperate and share information

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would cooperate and share information

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would cooperate and share information
the Office of the Director of National

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the Office of the Director of National

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the Office of the Director of National
Intelligence has developed into a huge

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Intelligence has developed into a huge

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Intelligence has developed into a huge
additional layer of bureaucracy with far

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additional layer of bureaucracy with far

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additional layer of bureaucracy with far
too many officials that has made

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too many officials that has made

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too many officials that has made
American intelligence analysis and

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American intelligence analysis and

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American intelligence analysis and
collection less efficient and more

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collection less efficient and more

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collection less efficient and more
risk-averse

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risk-averse

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risk-averse
he says the Office of the Director of

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he says the Office of the Director of

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he says the Office of the Director of
National Intelligence has made this

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National Intelligence has made this

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National Intelligence has made this
problem much worse not just because it

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problem much worse not just because it

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problem much worse not just because it
is an additional layer of stifling

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is an additional layer of stifling

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is an additional layer of stifling
bureaucracy but also because it has

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bureaucracy but also because it has

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bureaucracy but also because it has
become a 17th intelligence agency with

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become a 17th intelligence agency with

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become a 17th intelligence agency with
its own intelligence analysts thousands

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its own intelligence analysts thousands

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its own intelligence analysts thousands
of employees and a huge and ever-growing

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of employees and a huge and ever-growing

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of employees and a huge and ever-growing
budget Chris in 2007 the House

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budget Chris in 2007 the House

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budget Chris in 2007 the House
Intelligence Committee tried to cut back

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Intelligence Committee tried to cut back

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Intelligence Committee tried to cut back
on the budget of the Office of the

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on the budget of the Office of the

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on the budget of the Office of the
Director of National Intelligence

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Director of National Intelligence

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Director of National Intelligence
but that never went into effect and so

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but that never went into effect and so

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but that never went into effect and so
even though many people think that

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even though many people think that

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even though many people think that
that’s that spending is under control it

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that’s that spending is under control it

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that’s that spending is under control it
never was controlled no and it’s going

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never was controlled no and it’s going

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never was controlled no and it’s going
to take leadership from inside the

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to take leadership from inside the

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to take leadership from inside the
intelligence community to do that and so

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intelligence community to do that and so

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intelligence community to do that and so
far that has not taken place and you

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far that has not taken place and you

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far that has not taken place and you
mentioned Fred flights I think Fred

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mentioned Fred flights I think Fred

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mentioned Fred flights I think Fred
flights is somebody who really could do

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flights is somebody who really could do

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flights is somebody who really could do
this because let’s be clear Fred flights

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this because let’s be clear Fred flights

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this because let’s be clear Fred flights
is a realist right you know john bolton

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is a realist right you know john bolton

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is a realist right you know john bolton
consistently is labeled a neocon and one

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consistently is labeled a neocon and one

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consistently is labeled a neocon and one
thing that you can say if you actually

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thing that you can say if you actually

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thing that you can say if you actually
review Fred flights his material is that

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review Fred flights his material is that

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review Fred flights his material is that
even though he was John Bolton’s chief

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even though he was John Bolton’s chief

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even though he was John Bolton’s chief
of staff he is very much not a neocon he

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of staff he is very much not a neocon he

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of staff he is very much not a neocon he
is a realist and he’s someone who

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is a realist and he’s someone who

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is a realist and he’s someone who
recognizes that Donald Trump was elected

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recognizes that Donald Trump was elected

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recognizes that Donald Trump was elected
to get the United States out of wars

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to get the United States out of wars

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to get the United States out of wars
rather than getting us into them he

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rather than getting us into them he

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rather than getting us into them he
spent over two decades inside of the CIA

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spent over two decades inside of the CIA

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spent over two decades inside of the CIA
he wasn’t it he’s not some elected

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he wasn’t it he’s not some elected

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he wasn’t it he’s not some elected
official he’s not you know somebody who

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official he’s not you know somebody who

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official he’s not you know somebody who
served in in the Senate for example and

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served in in the Senate for example and

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served in in the Senate for example and
oversaw these organizations he was

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oversaw these organizations he was

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oversaw these organizations he was
inside of them and so when it comes to

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inside of them and so when it comes to

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inside of them and so when it comes to
what you’re talking about Liz that is

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what you’re talking about Liz that is

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what you’re talking about Liz that is
reforming these organizations and trying

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reforming these organizations and trying

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reforming these organizations and trying
to get them under control you know you

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to get them under control you know you

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to get them under control you know you
really need somebody like this a realist

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really need somebody like this a realist

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really need somebody like this a realist
a professional who is it the the sort of

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a professional who is it the the sort of

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a professional who is it the the sort of
the pinnacle of his career somebody who

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the pinnacle of his career somebody who

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the pinnacle of his career somebody who
could come in and really take it away as

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could come in and really take it away as

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could come in and really take it away as
they say right and like you said who has

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they say right and like you said who has

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they say right and like you said who has
two decades of experience and another

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two decades of experience and another

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two decades of experience and another
note that I would make about Fred Fleiss

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note that I would make about Fred Fleiss

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note that I would make about Fred Fleiss
if the intelligence community is arguing

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if the intelligence community is arguing

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if the intelligence community is arguing
against someone like Fred Fleiss that

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against someone like Fred Fleiss that

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against someone like Fred Fleiss that
right there is your signal that he would

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right there is your signal that he would

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right there is your signal that he would
do a good job because the intelligence

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do a good job because the intelligence

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do a good job because the intelligence
community that bureaucracy doesn’t want

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community that bureaucracy doesn’t want

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community that bureaucracy doesn’t want
their house clean and so if they don’t

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their house clean and so if they don’t

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their house clean and so if they don’t
want you there it’s a pretty good signal

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want you there it’s a pretty good signal

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want you there it’s a pretty good signal
that he will clean house and reform an

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that he will clean house and reform an

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that he will clean house and reform an
intelligence community that’s

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intelligence community that’s

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intelligence community that’s
collectively at least at the leadership

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collectively at least at the leadership

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collectively at least at the leadership
level attempted to wage a coup against a

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level attempted to wage a coup against a

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level attempted to wage a coup against a
duly elected president that needs to be

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duly elected president that needs to be

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duly elected president that needs to be
reformed we need to clean house so that

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reformed we need to clean house so that

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reformed we need to clean house so that
that doesn’t happen again