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when I was researching this issue it
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when I was researching this issue it
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when I was researching this issue it
seems to me there are very few people
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seems to me there are very few people
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seems to me there are very few people
especially in politics who are willing
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especially in politics who are willing
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especially in politics who are willing
to identify what the problems are and
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to identify what the problems are and
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to identify what the problems are and
suggest reforms one of these few people
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suggest reforms one of these few people
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suggest reforms one of these few people
that who is suggesting refer reform is
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that who is suggesting refer reform is
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that who is suggesting refer reform is
Fred flight’s he’s a frequent guests on
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Fred flight’s he’s a frequent guests on
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Fred flight’s he’s a frequent guests on
this show he’s also the former chief of
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this show he’s also the former chief of
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this show he’s also the former chief of
staff for John Bolton II worked for the
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staff for John Bolton II worked for the
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staff for John Bolton II worked for the
national security advisory office and
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national security advisory office and
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national security advisory office and
this is what he wrote and I want to read
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this is what he wrote and I want to read
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this is what he wrote and I want to read
this he said although the 2004
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this he said although the 2004
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this he said although the 2004
intelligence reform and terrorism
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intelligence reform and terrorism
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intelligence reform and terrorism
Prevention Act created the position of
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Prevention Act created the position of
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Prevention Act created the position of
the Director of National Intelligence as
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the Director of National Intelligence as
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the Director of National Intelligence as
a new official to US intelligence
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a new official to US intelligence
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a new official to US intelligence
agencies to ensure that these agencies
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agencies to ensure that these agencies
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agencies to ensure that these agencies
would cooperate and share information
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would cooperate and share information
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would cooperate and share information
the Office of the Director of National
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the Office of the Director of National
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the Office of the Director of National
Intelligence has developed into a huge
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Intelligence has developed into a huge
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Intelligence has developed into a huge
additional layer of bureaucracy with far
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additional layer of bureaucracy with far
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additional layer of bureaucracy with far
too many officials that has made
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too many officials that has made
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too many officials that has made
American intelligence analysis and
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American intelligence analysis and
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American intelligence analysis and
collection less efficient and more
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collection less efficient and more
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collection less efficient and more
risk-averse
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risk-averse
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risk-averse
he says the Office of the Director of
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he says the Office of the Director of
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he says the Office of the Director of
National Intelligence has made this
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National Intelligence has made this
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National Intelligence has made this
problem much worse not just because it
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problem much worse not just because it
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problem much worse not just because it
is an additional layer of stifling
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is an additional layer of stifling
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is an additional layer of stifling
bureaucracy but also because it has
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bureaucracy but also because it has
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bureaucracy but also because it has
become a 17th intelligence agency with
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become a 17th intelligence agency with
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become a 17th intelligence agency with
its own intelligence analysts thousands
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its own intelligence analysts thousands
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its own intelligence analysts thousands
of employees and a huge and ever-growing
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of employees and a huge and ever-growing
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of employees and a huge and ever-growing
budget Chris in 2007 the House
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budget Chris in 2007 the House
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budget Chris in 2007 the House
Intelligence Committee tried to cut back
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Intelligence Committee tried to cut back
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Intelligence Committee tried to cut back
on the budget of the Office of the
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on the budget of the Office of the
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on the budget of the Office of the
Director of National Intelligence
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Director of National Intelligence
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Director of National Intelligence
but that never went into effect and so
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but that never went into effect and so
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but that never went into effect and so
even though many people think that
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even though many people think that
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even though many people think that
that’s that spending is under control it
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that’s that spending is under control it
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that’s that spending is under control it
never was controlled no and it’s going
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never was controlled no and it’s going
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never was controlled no and it’s going
to take leadership from inside the
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to take leadership from inside the
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to take leadership from inside the
intelligence community to do that and so
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intelligence community to do that and so
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intelligence community to do that and so
far that has not taken place and you
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far that has not taken place and you
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far that has not taken place and you
mentioned Fred flights I think Fred
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mentioned Fred flights I think Fred
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mentioned Fred flights I think Fred
flights is somebody who really could do
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flights is somebody who really could do
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flights is somebody who really could do
this because let’s be clear Fred flights
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this because let’s be clear Fred flights
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this because let’s be clear Fred flights
is a realist right you know john bolton
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is a realist right you know john bolton
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is a realist right you know john bolton
consistently is labeled a neocon and one
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consistently is labeled a neocon and one
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consistently is labeled a neocon and one
thing that you can say if you actually
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thing that you can say if you actually
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thing that you can say if you actually
review Fred flights his material is that
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review Fred flights his material is that
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review Fred flights his material is that
even though he was John Bolton’s chief
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even though he was John Bolton’s chief
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even though he was John Bolton’s chief
of staff he is very much not a neocon he
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of staff he is very much not a neocon he
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of staff he is very much not a neocon he
is a realist and he’s someone who
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is a realist and he’s someone who
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is a realist and he’s someone who
recognizes that Donald Trump was elected
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recognizes that Donald Trump was elected
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recognizes that Donald Trump was elected
to get the United States out of wars
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to get the United States out of wars
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to get the United States out of wars
rather than getting us into them he
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rather than getting us into them he
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rather than getting us into them he
spent over two decades inside of the CIA
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spent over two decades inside of the CIA
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spent over two decades inside of the CIA
he wasn’t it he’s not some elected
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he wasn’t it he’s not some elected
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he wasn’t it he’s not some elected
official he’s not you know somebody who
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official he’s not you know somebody who
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official he’s not you know somebody who
served in in the Senate for example and
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served in in the Senate for example and
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served in in the Senate for example and
oversaw these organizations he was
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oversaw these organizations he was
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oversaw these organizations he was
inside of them and so when it comes to
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inside of them and so when it comes to
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inside of them and so when it comes to
what you’re talking about Liz that is
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what you’re talking about Liz that is
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what you’re talking about Liz that is
reforming these organizations and trying
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reforming these organizations and trying
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reforming these organizations and trying
to get them under control you know you
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to get them under control you know you
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to get them under control you know you
really need somebody like this a realist
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really need somebody like this a realist
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really need somebody like this a realist
a professional who is it the the sort of
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a professional who is it the the sort of
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a professional who is it the the sort of
the pinnacle of his career somebody who
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the pinnacle of his career somebody who
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the pinnacle of his career somebody who
could come in and really take it away as
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could come in and really take it away as
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could come in and really take it away as
they say right and like you said who has
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they say right and like you said who has
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they say right and like you said who has
two decades of experience and another
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two decades of experience and another
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two decades of experience and another
note that I would make about Fred Fleiss
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note that I would make about Fred Fleiss
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note that I would make about Fred Fleiss
if the intelligence community is arguing
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if the intelligence community is arguing
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if the intelligence community is arguing
against someone like Fred Fleiss that
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against someone like Fred Fleiss that
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against someone like Fred Fleiss that
right there is your signal that he would
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right there is your signal that he would
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right there is your signal that he would
do a good job because the intelligence
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do a good job because the intelligence
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do a good job because the intelligence
community that bureaucracy doesn’t want
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community that bureaucracy doesn’t want
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community that bureaucracy doesn’t want
their house clean and so if they don’t
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their house clean and so if they don’t
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their house clean and so if they don’t
want you there it’s a pretty good signal
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want you there it’s a pretty good signal
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want you there it’s a pretty good signal
that he will clean house and reform an
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that he will clean house and reform an
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that he will clean house and reform an
intelligence community that’s
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intelligence community that’s
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intelligence community that’s
collectively at least at the leadership
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collectively at least at the leadership
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collectively at least at the leadership
level attempted to wage a coup against a
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level attempted to wage a coup against a
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level attempted to wage a coup against a
duly elected president that needs to be
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duly elected president that needs to be
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duly elected president that needs to be
reformed we need to clean house so that
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reformed we need to clean house so that
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reformed we need to clean house so that
that doesn’t happen again