OANN interview with Christopher C Hull, Fusion GPS, Senator Feinstein
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good evening and welcome I’m your host
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good evening and welcome I’m your host
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good evening and welcome I’m your host
Liz wheeler and this is tipping point
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tonight breaking news the founder of
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tonight breaking news the founder of
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tonight breaking news the founder of
fusion GPS the opposition research firm
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fusion GPS the opposition research firm
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fusion GPS the opposition research firm
that created the infamous Trump dossier
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that created the infamous Trump dossier
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that created the infamous Trump dossier
the founder testified to Congress that
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the founder testified to Congress that
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the founder testified to Congress that
somebody has already been killed as a
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somebody has already been killed as a
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somebody has already been killed as a
result of the dossier
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result of the dossier
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result of the dossier
well who’s been killed why in what
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well who’s been killed why in what
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well who’s been killed why in what
country and by whom we’ll explore this
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country and by whom we’ll explore this
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country and by whom we’ll explore this
explosive but entirely unsubstantiated
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explosive but entirely unsubstantiated
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explosive but entirely unsubstantiated
claim in just moments with chris hall
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claim in just moments with chris hall
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claim in just moments with chris hall
then president Trump’s mental health
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then president Trump’s mental health
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then president Trump’s mental health
from a man who worked side-by-side with
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from a man who worked side-by-side with
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from a man who worked side-by-side with
president on the campaign trail plus a
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president on the campaign trail plus a
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president on the campaign trail plus a
story the mainstream media is doing
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story the mainstream media is doing
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story the mainstream media is doing
their best to ignore a grand jury has
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their best to ignore a grand jury has
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their best to ignore a grand jury has
taken sworn testimony in the
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taken sworn testimony in the
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taken sworn testimony in the
investigation into Bernie Sanders wife
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investigation into Bernie Sanders wife
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investigation into Bernie Sanders wife
Jane who allegedly committed bank fraud
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Jane who allegedly committed bank fraud
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Jane who allegedly committed bank fraud
to secure a loan when she really had no
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to secure a loan when she really had no
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to secure a loan when she really had no
money to back that loan and we’re not
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money to back that loan and we’re not
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money to back that loan and we’re not
talking small potatoes here we are
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talking small potatoes here we are
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talking small potatoes here we are
talking ten million dollars that’s later
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talking ten million dollars that’s later
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talking ten million dollars that’s later
but before we begin all of that thank
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but before we begin all of that thank
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but before we begin all of that thank
you for being here tonight because our
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you for being here tonight because our
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you for being here tonight because our
nation is at a tipping point if we don’t
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nation is at a tipping point if we don’t
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nation is at a tipping point if we don’t
turn America towards Liberty then we
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turn America towards Liberty then we
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turn America towards Liberty then we
risk losing the freedom that makes
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risk losing the freedom that makes
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risk losing the freedom that makes
America exceptional so let’s get started
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America exceptional so let’s get started
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America exceptional so let’s get started
our first tipping point tonight the
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our first tipping point tonight the
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our first tipping point tonight the
founder of fusion GPS the opposition
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founder of fusion GPS the opposition
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founder of fusion GPS the opposition
research firm that created the infamous
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research firm that created the infamous
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research firm that created the infamous
Trump dossier the founder testified to
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Trump dossier the founder testified to
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Trump dossier the founder testified to
Congress that somebody has already been
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Congress that somebody has already been
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Congress that somebody has already been
killed as a result of the dossier so my
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killed as a result of the dossier so my
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killed as a result of the dossier so my
question is who was killed why were they
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question is who was killed why were they
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question is who was killed why were they
killed in what country were they killed
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killed in what country were they killed
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killed in what country were they killed
and by whom were they killed
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and by whom were they killed
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and by whom were they killed
it seems odd to me that somebody would
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it seems odd to me that somebody would
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it seems odd to me that somebody would
make such an enormous Lee significant
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make such an enormous Lee significant
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make such an enormous Lee significant
claim without any information or facts
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claim without any information or facts
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claim without any information or facts
to substantiate it
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to substantiate it
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to substantiate it
but here’s what happened back in August
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but here’s what happened back in August
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but here’s what happened back in August
on August 22nd of 2017 the founder of
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on August 22nd of 2017 the founder of
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on August 22nd of 2017 the founder of
fusion GPS testified in a closed-door
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fusion GPS testified in a closed-door
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fusion GPS testified in a closed-door
interview with the Senate Judiciary
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interview with the Senate Judiciary
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interview with the Senate Judiciary
Committee the founders name is Glenn
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Committee the founders name is Glenn
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Committee the founders name is Glenn
Simpson Simpson was wrapped by an
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Simpson Simpson was wrapped by an
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Simpson Simpson was wrapped by an
attorney his attorney named Josh levy
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attorney his attorney named Josh levy
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attorney his attorney named Josh levy
now the purpose of this interview which
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now the purpose of this interview which
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now the purpose of this interview which
was voluntary on the part of fusion GPS
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was voluntary on the part of fusion GPS
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was voluntary on the part of fusion GPS
was transparency that’s what they said
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was transparency that’s what they said
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was transparency that’s what they said
they wanted to clear their name the
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they wanted to clear their name the
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they wanted to clear their name the
interview occurred behind closed doors
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interview occurred behind closed doors
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interview occurred behind closed doors
we didn’t know the details of what was
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we didn’t know the details of what was
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we didn’t know the details of what was
said in August when it happened
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said in August when it happened
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said in August when it happened
fast-forward to yesterday Senator Dianne
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fast-forward to yesterday Senator Dianne
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fast-forward to yesterday Senator Dianne
Feinstein the ranking Democrat on the
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Feinstein the ranking Democrat on the
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Feinstein the ranking Democrat on the
Senate Judiciary Committee released on
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Senate Judiciary Committee released on
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Senate Judiciary Committee released on
her website the transcript of the
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her website the transcript of the
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her website the transcript of the
closed-door interview with Glenn Simpson
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closed-door interview with Glenn Simpson
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closed-door interview with Glenn Simpson
and his lawyers the purpose she said was
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and his lawyers the purpose she said was
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and his lawyers the purpose she said was
transparency fusion GPS wanted to
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transparency fusion GPS wanted to
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transparency fusion GPS wanted to
release the information yet the
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release the information yet the
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release the information yet the
information they released didn’t
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information they released didn’t
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information they released didn’t
any questions in fact just the opposite
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any questions in fact just the opposite
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any questions in fact just the opposite
the transcripts show Simpsons lawyer
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the transcripts show Simpsons lawyer
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the transcripts show Simpsons lawyer
claiming that somebody has been killed
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claiming that somebody has been killed
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claiming that somebody has been killed
as a result of the publication of the
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as a result of the publication of the
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as a result of the publication of the
dossier but did not elaborate on who was
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dossier but did not elaborate on who was
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dossier but did not elaborate on who was
killed when they were killed why they
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killed when they were killed why they
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killed when they were killed why they
were killed where they were killed or by
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were killed where they were killed or by
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were killed where they were killed or by
whom they were killed in addition
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whom they were killed in addition
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whom they were killed in addition
senator Feinstein redacted on the
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senator Feinstein redacted on the
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senator Feinstein redacted on the
release transcript the names of fusions
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release transcript the names of fusions
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release transcript the names of fusions
business partners who paid fusion GPS
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business partners who paid fusion GPS
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business partners who paid fusion GPS
and the names of the Russian sources
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and the names of the Russian sources
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and the names of the Russian sources
Christopher steel used to compile the
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Christopher steel used to compile the
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Christopher steel used to compile the
information that he put into the dossier
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information that he put into the dossier
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information that he put into the dossier
simpson also contradicted himself
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simpson also contradicted himself
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simpson also contradicted himself
several times at one point in the past
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several times at one point in the past
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several times at one point in the past
he said he didn’t verify the veracity of
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he said he didn’t verify the veracity of
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he said he didn’t verify the veracity of
the dossier and claimed that even steel
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the dossier and claimed that even steel
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the dossier and claimed that even steel
only believed 80% of the information yet
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only believed 80% of the information yet
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only believed 80% of the information yet
in the Senate transcript Simpson’s
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in the Senate transcript Simpson’s
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in the Senate transcript Simpson’s
lawyers defended the contents of the
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lawyers defended the contents of the
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lawyers defended the contents of the
dossier as being true so why release
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dossier as being true so why release
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dossier as being true so why release
parts of the transcript without the
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parts of the transcript without the
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parts of the transcript without the
whole thing leaving even more questions
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whole thing leaving even more questions
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whole thing leaving even more questions
unanswered and the credibility of the
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unanswered and the credibility of the
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unanswered and the credibility of the
whole thing and even greater doubt
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whole thing and even greater doubt
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whole thing and even greater doubt
joining me now to break this down from
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joining me now to break this down from
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joining me now to break this down from
center for security policy Chris hull
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center for security policy Chris hull
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center for security policy Chris hull
Chris good to see you good to see you
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Chris good to see you good to see you
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Chris good to see you good to see you
too Liz thanks for having me on yeah of
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too Liz thanks for having me on yeah of
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too Liz thanks for having me on yeah of
course it’s good to see you all right
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course it’s good to see you all right
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course it’s good to see you all right
what do you make of this I mean these
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what do you make of this I mean these
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what do you make of this I mean these
are some pretty serious snippets of
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are some pretty serious snippets of
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are some pretty serious snippets of
information that we see in this kranj
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information that we see in this kranj
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information that we see in this kranj
transcript yet sometimes the most
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transcript yet sometimes the most
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transcript yet sometimes the most
important part the answers to the
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important part the answers to the
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important part the answers to the
questions were blacked out by senator
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questions were blacked out by senator
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questions were blacked out by senator
Feinstein it’s curious isn’t it seems
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Feinstein it’s curious isn’t it seems
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Feinstein it’s curious isn’t it seems
like if you were aiming at transparent
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like if you were aiming at transparent
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like if you were aiming at transparent
transparency you wouldn’t be blacking
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transparency you wouldn’t be blacking
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transparency you wouldn’t be blacking
things out especially it seems a little
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things out especially it seems a little
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things out especially it seems a little
bit strange that since her aim is
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bit strange that since her aim is
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bit strange that since her aim is
transparency that she blocked blacked
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transparency that she blocked blacked
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transparency that she blocked blacked
out not only the details that you named
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out not only the details that you named
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out not only the details that you named
Liz she also blacked out the names of
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Liz she also blacked out the names of
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Liz she also blacked out the names of
the FBI agents which were working on the
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the FBI agents which were working on the
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the FBI agents which were working on the
Clinton email scandal now that seems
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Clinton email scandal now that seems
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Clinton email scandal now that seems
like a remarkable coincidence don’t you
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like a remarkable coincidence don’t you
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like a remarkable coincidence don’t you
think it does it’s it seems absolutely
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think it does it’s it seems absolutely
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think it does it’s it seems absolutely
mind-boggling to me I was trying to get
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mind-boggling to me I was trying to get
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mind-boggling to me I was trying to get
into fusion GPS his head a little bit to
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into fusion GPS his head a little bit to
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into fusion GPS his head a little bit to
see why they would have encouraged
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see why they would have encouraged
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see why they would have encouraged
senator Feinstein to release it and I
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senator Feinstein to release it and I
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senator Feinstein to release it and I
truthfully don’t know I mean to make a
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truthfully don’t know I mean to make a
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truthfully don’t know I mean to make a
bombshell allegation to say that
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bombshell allegation to say that
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bombshell allegation to say that
somebody’s been killed as a result of
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somebody’s been killed as a result of
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somebody’s been killed as a result of
the publication of this document and
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the publication of this document and
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the publication of this document and
then to refuse to elaborate on it what
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then to refuse to elaborate on it what
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then to refuse to elaborate on it what
purpose does that serve well of course
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purpose does that serve well of course
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purpose does that serve well of course
what they’re trying to say is that that
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what they’re trying to say is that that
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what they’re trying to say is that that
we must absolutely defend the integrity
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we must absolutely defend the integrity
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we must absolutely defend the integrity
of this dossier that
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of this dossier that
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of this dossier that
goodness these sources are at risk of
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goodness these sources are at risk of
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goodness these sources are at risk of
literally their lives now I’d have no
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literally their lives now I’d have no
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literally their lives now I’d have no
idea whether that is true or not that’s
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idea whether that is true or not that’s
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idea whether that is true or not that’s
not my area of expertise but I’ll tell
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not my area of expertise but I’ll tell
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not my area of expertise but I’ll tell
you this it seems strange that at the
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you this it seems strange that at the
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you this it seems strange that at the
end of the ten-hour interview or during
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end of the ten-hour interview or during
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end of the ten-hour interview or during
the 10-hour interview I should say the
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the 10-hour interview I should say the
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the 10-hour interview I should say the
attorney for Simpson requested that due
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attorney for Simpson requested that due
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attorney for Simpson requested that due
to the sensitive nature of the
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to the sensitive nature of the
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to the sensitive nature of the
information contained within it that it
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information contained within it that it
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information contained within it that it
be sealed and yet and I quote Dianne
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be sealed and yet and I quote Dianne
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be sealed and yet and I quote Dianne
Feinstein in her in her statement said
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Feinstein in her in her statement said
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Feinstein in her in her statement said
after speaking with majority and
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after speaking with majority and
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after speaking with majority and
minority committee staff for 10 hours
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minority committee staff for 10 hours
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minority committee staff for 10 hours
Glenn Simpson requested the transcript
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Glenn Simpson requested the transcript
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Glenn Simpson requested the transcript
of his interview be released publicly
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of his interview be released publicly
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of his interview be released publicly
that’s a lie that is a lie unless you
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that’s a lie that is a lie unless you
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that’s a lie that is a lie unless you
want to insert
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want to insert
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want to insert
Glenn Simpson waited for nine months and
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Glenn Simpson waited for nine months and
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Glenn Simpson waited for nine months and
then and she apparently left that part
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then and she apparently left that part
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then and she apparently left that part
out in this draft right it’s absolutely
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out in this draft right it’s absolutely
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out in this draft right it’s absolutely
mind-boggling and I I don’t even
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mind-boggling and I I don’t even
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mind-boggling and I I don’t even
understand why at this point they would
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understand why at this point they would
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understand why at this point they would
want to defend the integrity when Glenn
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want to defend the integrity when Glenn
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want to defend the integrity when Glenn
Simpson is sitting in front of the
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Simpson is sitting in front of the
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Simpson is sitting in front of the
Senate Judiciary Committee and through
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Senate Judiciary Committee and through
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Senate Judiciary Committee and through
his lawyers he’s contradicting things
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his lawyers he’s contradicting things
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his lawyers he’s contradicting things
he’s said in the past in the past he
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he’s said in the past in the past he
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he’s said in the past in the past he
testified that he did not even
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testified that he did not even
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testified that he did not even
independently verify the claims all of
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independently verify the claims all of
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independently verify the claims all of
the allegations against President Trump
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the allegations against President Trump
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the allegations against President Trump
that are included in this dossier that
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that are included in this dossier that
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that are included in this dossier that
he actually went to the media and
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he actually went to the media and
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he actually went to the media and
offered them the information in this
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offered them the information in this
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offered them the information in this
dossier without having gone to Russia
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dossier without having gone to Russia
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dossier without having gone to Russia
without having looked into what sources
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without having looked into what sources
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without having looked into what sources
Christopher Steele used to get this
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Christopher Steele used to get this
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Christopher Steele used to get this
information he said that before
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information he said that before
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information he said that before
yet his lawyer said that this is the
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yet his lawyer said that this is the
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yet his lawyer said that this is the
truth that this is honest work no harm
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truth that this is honest work no harm
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truth that this is honest work no harm
should come to anybody related to this
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should come to anybody related to this
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should come to anybody related to this
honest work well which is true you can’t
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honest work well which is true you can’t
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honest work well which is true you can’t
have it both ways
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have it both ways
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have it both ways
well what they should have done really
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well what they should have done really
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well what they should have done really
is at the end of the dossier they should
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is at the end of the dossier they should
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is at the end of the dossier they should
have included a note that said you know
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have included a note that said you know
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have included a note that said you know
some of this is impressionistic and just
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some of this is impressionistic and just
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some of this is impressionistic and just
my sort of sense of what happened like
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my sort of sense of what happened like
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my sort of sense of what happened like
Wolff did at the end of his book about
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Wolff did at the end of his book about
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Wolff did at the end of his book about
Trump because they seem to be rather
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Trump because they seem to be rather
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Trump because they seem to be rather
similar in the fact that they contain a
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similar in the fact that they contain a
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similar in the fact that they contain a
whole bunch of fake news look if anybody
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whole bunch of fake news look if anybody
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whole bunch of fake news look if anybody
is responsible for the death of one of
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is responsible for the death of one of
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is responsible for the death of one of
the sources of that that worked with
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the sources of that that worked with
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the sources of that that worked with
Steele its BuzzFeed who originally
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Steele its BuzzFeed who originally
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Steele its BuzzFeed who originally
publicized the results of this dossier
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publicized the results of this dossier
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publicized the results of this dossier
and let me be clear about something else
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and let me be clear about something else
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and let me be clear about something else
if somebody if people are in fact in
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if somebody if people are in fact in
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if somebody if people are in fact in
danger it would seem to me to be the
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danger it would seem to me to be the
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danger it would seem to me to be the
height of irresponsibility for Simpson
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height of irresponsibility for Simpson
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height of irresponsibility for Simpson
and Feinstein to be releasing this
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and Feinstein to be releasing this
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and Feinstein to be releasing this
document now right and by the way Glenn
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document now right and by the way Glenn
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document now right and by the way Glenn
Simpson did say something very similar
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Simpson did say something very similar
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Simpson did say something very similar
to Michael Wolfe he said quote you don’t
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to Michael Wolfe he said quote you don’t
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to Michael Wolfe he said quote you don’t
really decide who’s telling the truth
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really decide who’s telling the truth
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really decide who’s telling the truth
just whether the person is credible so
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just whether the person is credible so
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just whether the person is credible so
it is if you feel it it might be true
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it is if you feel it it might be true
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it is if you feel it it might be true
type of situation and I would echo what
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type of situation and I would echo what
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type of situation and I would echo what
you said a hundred percent if people’s
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you said a hundred percent if people’s
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you said a hundred percent if people’s
lives are at risk your feelings don’t
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lives are at risk your feelings don’t
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lives are at risk your feelings don’t
matter what matters is protecting that
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matter what matters is protecting that
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matter what matters is protecting that
person’s identity so here’s a part two
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person’s identity so here’s a part two
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person’s identity so here’s a part two
that I think the mainstream media is
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that I think the mainstream media is
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that I think the mainstream media is
ignoring a part that I think is very
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ignoring a part that I think is very
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ignoring a part that I think is very
important here if someone was in fact a
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important here if someone was in fact a
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important here if someone was in fact a
source was in fact killed as a result of
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source was in fact killed as a result of
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source was in fact killed as a result of
the publication of this dossier doesn’t
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the publication of this dossier doesn’t
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the publication of this dossier doesn’t
that make it even more important for us
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that make it even more important for us
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that make it even more important for us
to have an answer to the question about
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to have an answer to the question about
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to have an answer to the question about
who were the ones paying for this and
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who were the ones paying for this and
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who were the ones paying for this and
whether the FBI actually paid for this
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whether the FBI actually paid for this
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whether the FBI actually paid for this
because theoretically if there is
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because theoretically if there is
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because theoretically if there is
substantial evidence that someone was
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substantial evidence that someone was
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substantial evidence that someone was
killed as a result of this doesn’t that
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killed as a result of this doesn’t that
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killed as a result of this doesn’t that
mean that Hillary Clinton the DNC and
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mean that Hillary Clinton the DNC and
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mean that Hillary Clinton the DNC and
possibly the FBI paid for information
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possibly the FBI paid for information
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possibly the FBI paid for information
that led to the death of a source
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that led to the death of a source
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that led to the death of a source
absolutely it does suggest that in fact
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absolutely it does suggest that in fact
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absolutely it does suggest that in fact
one of the small pieces of information
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one of the small pieces of information
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one of the small pieces of information
which is going strangely under
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which is going strangely under
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which is going strangely under
unreported
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unreported
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unreported
lizz in this in this in this in what was
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lizz in this in this in this in what was
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lizz in this in this in this in what was
just released is that the FBI did pay
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just released is that the FBI did pay
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just released is that the FBI did pay
Steele we now know it is now at least
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Steele we now know it is now at least
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Steele we now know it is now at least
according according to what Simpson says
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according according to what Simpson says
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according according to what Simpson says
right according to Glenn Simpsons
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right according to Glenn Simpsons
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right according to Glenn Simpsons
testimony before the Senate Judiciary
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testimony before the Senate Judiciary
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testimony before the Senate Judiciary
Committee before this investigative
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Committee before this investigative
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Committee before this investigative
staff I should say he says that the FBI
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staff I should say he says that the FBI
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staff I should say he says that the FBI
paid Steele’s expenses at least to go to
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paid Steele’s expenses at least to go to
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paid Steele’s expenses at least to go to
Rome which sounds nice to me in order to
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Rome which sounds nice to me in order to
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Rome which sounds nice to me in order to
further his research into Donald Trump
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further his research into Donald Trump
461
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further his research into Donald Trump
that means we have the Federal Bureau of
462
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that means we have the Federal Bureau of
463
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that means we have the Federal Bureau of
Investigation paying an opposition
464
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Investigation paying an opposition
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Investigation paying an opposition
researcher expenses as he is doing work
466
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researcher expenses as he is doing work
467
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researcher expenses as he is doing work
for the Democratic National Committee
468
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for the Democratic National Committee
469
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for the Democratic National Committee
that sounds to me something like Hoover
470
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that sounds to me something like Hoover
471
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that sounds to me something like Hoover
would have applauded back in the day the
472
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would have applauded back in the day the
473
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would have applauded back in the day the
Democrats use for that there’s a
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Democrats use for that there’s a
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Democrats use for that there’s a
specific word that Democrats have been
476
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specific word that Democrats have been
477
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specific word that Democrats have been
using that’s right collusion that sounds
478
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using that’s right collusion that sounds
479
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using that’s right collusion that sounds
to me like exactly like collusion last
480
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to me like exactly like collusion last
481
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to me like exactly like collusion last
question here Chris so what’s the point
482
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question here Chris so what’s the point
483
00:09:05,590 –> 00:09:06,990
question here Chris so what’s the point
I guess and like I said I’ve been trying
484
00:09:06,990 –> 00:09:07,000
I guess and like I said I’ve been trying
485
00:09:07,000 –> 00:09:08,730
I guess and like I said I’ve been trying
to get inside the head of Dianne
486
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to get inside the head of Dianne
487
00:09:08,740 –> 00:09:09,740
to get inside the head of Dianne
Feinstein you
488
00:09:09,740 –> 00:09:09,750
Feinstein you
489
00:09:09,750 –> 00:09:11,270
Feinstein you
inside the head of Glenn Simpson here
490
00:09:11,270 –> 00:09:11,280
inside the head of Glenn Simpson here
491
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inside the head of Glenn Simpson here
when you make a release like this but
492
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when you make a release like this but
493
00:09:13,260 –> 00:09:15,140
when you make a release like this but
you also redact things it’s a political
494
00:09:15,140 –> 00:09:15,150
you also redact things it’s a political
495
00:09:15,150 –> 00:09:17,180
you also redact things it’s a political
maneuver they’re doing it for a reason
496
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maneuver they’re doing it for a reason
497
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maneuver they’re doing it for a reason
they’re doing it most likely to prompt
498
00:09:19,010 –> 00:09:19,020
they’re doing it most likely to prompt
499
00:09:19,020 –> 00:09:21,590
they’re doing it most likely to prompt
an action like when Comey leaked that
500
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an action like when Comey leaked that
501
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an action like when Comey leaked that
information about his meeting with
502
00:09:22,820 –> 00:09:22,830
information about his meeting with
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information about his meeting with
President Trump he did that to prompt
504
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President Trump he did that to prompt
505
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President Trump he did that to prompt
the appointment of Robert Miller what is
506
00:09:27,500 –> 00:09:27,510
the appointment of Robert Miller what is
507
00:09:27,510 –> 00:09:29,150
the appointment of Robert Miller what is
the point of this political maneuver
508
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the point of this political maneuver
509
00:09:29,160 –> 00:09:30,290
the point of this political maneuver
what are they hoping to achieve by
510
00:09:30,290 –> 00:09:30,300
what are they hoping to achieve by
511
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what are they hoping to achieve by
releasing this information I believe
512
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releasing this information I believe
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releasing this information I believe
that they are trying to refocus the the
514
00:09:36,830 –> 00:09:36,840
that they are trying to refocus the the
515
00:09:36,840 –> 00:09:39,080
that they are trying to refocus the the
attention on the scurrilous details and
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attention on the scurrilous details and
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attention on the scurrilous details and
the strange accusations that surround
518
00:09:43,400 –> 00:09:43,410
the strange accusations that surround
519
00:09:43,410 –> 00:09:45,620
the strange accusations that surround
the that are included in the dossier and
520
00:09:45,620 –> 00:09:45,630
the that are included in the dossier and
521
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the that are included in the dossier and
surround its its acquisition because I
522
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surround its its acquisition because I
523
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surround its its acquisition because I
believe that they’re desperate I believe
524
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believe that they’re desperate I believe
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believe that they’re desperate I believe
that Simpson realizes that he is in
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that Simpson realizes that he is in
527
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that Simpson realizes that he is in
serious legal jeopardy
528
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serious legal jeopardy
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00:09:55,470 –> 00:09:58,100
serious legal jeopardy
I believe that steal steal was just
530
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I believe that steal steal was just
531
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I believe that steal steal was just
referred for for criminal investigation
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00:10:01,340 –> 00:10:01,350
referred for for criminal investigation
533
00:10:01,350 –> 00:10:04,670
referred for for criminal investigation
by senators Grassley and Graham because
534
00:10:04,670 –> 00:10:04,680
by senators Grassley and Graham because
535
00:10:04,680 –> 00:10:07,400
by senators Grassley and Graham because
it appears that he has lied to the
536
00:10:07,400 –> 00:10:07,410
it appears that he has lied to the
537
00:10:07,410 –> 00:10:11,570
it appears that he has lied to the
committee it appears that the the bottom
538
00:10:11,570 –> 00:10:11,580
committee it appears that the the bottom
539
00:10:11,580 –> 00:10:13,540
committee it appears that the the bottom
is coming out of the story and
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00:10:13,540 –> 00:10:13,550
is coming out of the story and
541
00:10:13,550 –> 00:10:15,710
is coming out of the story and
increasingly it is clear that the
542
00:10:15,710 –> 00:10:15,720
increasingly it is clear that the
543
00:10:15,720 –> 00:10:17,630
increasingly it is clear that the
collusion that took place as you implied
544
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collusion that took place as you implied
545
00:10:17,640 –> 00:10:20,240
collusion that took place as you implied
liz is not collusion between Trump and
546
00:10:20,240 –> 00:10:20,250
liz is not collusion between Trump and
547
00:10:20,250 –> 00:10:22,550
liz is not collusion between Trump and
Russia there is zero zero zero evidence
548
00:10:22,550 –> 00:10:22,560
Russia there is zero zero zero evidence
549
00:10:22,560 –> 00:10:25,430
Russia there is zero zero zero evidence
after all of this investigation by all
550
00:10:25,430 –> 00:10:25,440
after all of this investigation by all
551
00:10:25,440 –> 00:10:26,990
after all of this investigation by all
of these individuals some paid by the
552
00:10:26,990 –> 00:10:27,000
of these individuals some paid by the
553
00:10:27,000 –> 00:10:30,380
of these individuals some paid by the
DNC some paid by you the taxpayer there
554
00:10:30,380 –> 00:10:30,390
DNC some paid by you the taxpayer there
555
00:10:30,390 –> 00:10:31,730
DNC some paid by you the taxpayer there
is zero evidence that there was
556
00:10:31,730 –> 00:10:31,740
is zero evidence that there was
557
00:10:31,740 –> 00:10:33,350
is zero evidence that there was
collusion between Trump and Russia and
558
00:10:33,350 –> 00:10:33,360
collusion between Trump and Russia and
559
00:10:33,360 –> 00:10:37,280
collusion between Trump and Russia and
there is enormous ridiculous painfully
560
00:10:37,280 –> 00:10:37,290
there is enormous ridiculous painfully
561
00:10:37,290 –> 00:10:42,290
there is enormous ridiculous painfully
obvious clear evidence that the FBI the
562
00:10:42,290 –> 00:10:42,300
obvious clear evidence that the FBI the
563
00:10:42,300 –> 00:10:46,070
obvious clear evidence that the FBI the
intelligence agencies and the DNC were
564
00:10:46,070 –> 00:10:46,080
intelligence agencies and the DNC were
565
00:10:46,080 –> 00:10:48,350
intelligence agencies and the DNC were
all working with the same individuals to
566
00:10:48,350 –> 00:10:48,360
all working with the same individuals to
567
00:10:48,360 –> 00:10:50,510
all working with the same individuals to
try to stop Trump from being president
568
00:10:50,510 –> 00:10:50,520
try to stop Trump from being president
569
00:10:50,520 –> 00:10:52,040
try to stop Trump from being president
and then try to remove him from office
570
00:10:52,040 –> 00:10:52,050
and then try to remove him from office
571
00:10:52,050 –> 00:10:53,690
and then try to remove him from office
once he became president that’s what
572
00:10:53,690 –> 00:10:53,700
once he became president that’s what
573
00:10:53,700 –> 00:10:55,100
once he became president that’s what
they want to refocus on that is their
574
00:10:55,100 –> 00:10:55,110
they want to refocus on that is their
575
00:10:55,110 –> 00:10:56,570
they want to refocus on that is their
project that is the reason for this
576
00:10:56,570 –> 00:10:56,580
project that is the reason for this
577
00:10:56,580 –> 00:10:58,640
project that is the reason for this
release right I agree with you perhaps
578
00:10:58,640 –> 00:10:58,650
release right I agree with you perhaps
579
00:10:58,650 –> 00:11:00,620
release right I agree with you perhaps
also a little bit of a revenge against
580
00:11:00,620 –> 00:11:00,630
also a little bit of a revenge against
581
00:11:00,630 –> 00:11:02,000
also a little bit of a revenge against
senators Graham and Grassley for
582
00:11:02,000 –> 00:11:02,010
senators Graham and Grassley for
583
00:11:02,010 –> 00:11:04,520
senators Graham and Grassley for
referring steal without first consulting
584
00:11:04,520 –> 00:11:04,530
referring steal without first consulting
585
00:11:04,530 –> 00:11:06,410
referring steal without first consulting
senator Feinstein here to me it just
586
00:11:06,410 –> 00:11:06,420
senator Feinstein here to me it just
587
00:11:06,420 –> 00:11:08,900
senator Feinstein here to me it just
seems it just seems irresponsible to the
588
00:11:08,900 –> 00:11:08,910
seems it just seems irresponsible to the
589
00:11:08,910 –> 00:11:11,270
seems it just seems irresponsible to the
utmost to make a release with claims
590
00:11:11,270 –> 00:11:11,280
utmost to make a release with claims
591
00:11:11,280 –> 00:11:13,130
utmost to make a release with claims
unsubstantiated claims like this without
592
00:11:13,130 –> 00:11:13,140
unsubstantiated claims like this without
593
00:11:13,140 –> 00:11:15,020
unsubstantiated claims like this without
elaborating on it it’s absolutely
594
00:11:15,020 –> 00:11:15,030
elaborating on it it’s absolutely
595
00:11:15,030 –> 00:11:16,579
elaborating on it it’s absolutely
politically insane Chris thanks for
596
00:11:16,579 –> 00:11:16,589
politically insane Chris thanks for
597
00:11:16,589 –> 00:11:18,560
politically insane Chris thanks for
coming on the show I appreciate it all
598
00:11:18,560 –> 00:11:18,570
coming on the show I appreciate it all
599
00:11:18,570 –> 00:11:19,699
coming on the show I appreciate it all
right don’t go anywhere we have JD
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00:11:19,699 –> 00:11:19,709
right don’t go anywhere we have JD
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00:11:19,709 –> 00:11:21,470
right don’t go anywhere we have JD
Gordon here next JD worked side-by-side
602
00:11:21,470 –> 00:11:21,480
Gordon here next JD worked side-by-side
603
00:11:21,480 –> 00:11:22,940
Gordon here next JD worked side-by-side
with President Trump on the
604
00:11:22,940 –> 00:11:22,950
with President Trump on the
605
00:11:22,950 –> 00:11:24,560
with President Trump on the
pain trail if there’s anybody who can
606
00:11:24,560 –> 00:11:24,570
pain trail if there’s anybody who can
607
00:11:24,570 –> 00:11:25,700
pain trail if there’s anybody who can
tell us about the state of Trump’s
608
00:11:25,700 –> 00:11:25,710
tell us about the state of Trump’s
609
00:11:25,710 –> 00:11:27,410
tell us about the state of Trump’s
mental health it would be JD who worked
610
00:11:27,410 –> 00:11:27,420
mental health it would be JD who worked
611
00:11:27,420 –> 00:11:29,360
mental health it would be JD who worked
with him not some author who never even
612
00:11:29,360 –> 00:11:29,370
with him not some author who never even
613
00:11:29,370 –> 00:11:31,130
with him not some author who never even
interviewed the people he wrote about so
614
00:11:31,130 –> 00:11:31,140
interviewed the people he wrote about so
615
00:11:31,140 –> 00:11:35,750
interviewed the people he wrote about so
we’re gonna ask JD next stick with us
616
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617
00:11:35,760 –> 00:11:37,820
you
