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and I believe we have on the line rich
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and I believe we have on the line rich
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and I believe we have on the line rich
Higgins hello sir
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Higgins hello sir
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Higgins hello sir
very well how are you glad you are great
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very well how are you glad you are great
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very well how are you glad you are great
actually I was telling you I guess in
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actually I was telling you I guess in
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actually I was telling you I guess in
fact we streamed this on Facebook so we
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fact we streamed this on Facebook so we
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fact we streamed this on Facebook so we
were talking the breaks our Facebook
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were talking the breaks our Facebook
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were talking the breaks our Facebook
listeners have heard this but we had an
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listeners have heard this but we had an
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listeners have heard this but we had an
event in our home my husband I did here
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event in our home my husband I did here
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event in our home my husband I did here
in Dallas a couple of months ago I think
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in Dallas a couple of months ago I think
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in Dallas a couple of months ago I think
and you are among the speakers that
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and you are among the speakers that
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and you are among the speakers that
night connected with a center for
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night connected with a center for
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night connected with a center for
security policy and I want to take just
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security policy and I want to take just
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security policy and I want to take just
a minute to tell our listeners your
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a minute to tell our listeners your
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a minute to tell our listeners your
background so that what you have to say
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background so that what you have to say
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background so that what you have to say
will have even more meaning rich Higgins
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will have even more meaning rich Higgins
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will have even more meaning rich Higgins
who’s on the phone with us tonight is
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who’s on the phone with us tonight is
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who’s on the phone with us tonight is
vice president of intelligence and
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vice president of intelligence and
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vice president of intelligence and
national security for read LLC a company
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national security for read LLC a company
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national security for read LLC a company
that develops tests and evaluates new
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that develops tests and evaluates new
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that develops tests and evaluates new
combat capabilities but his background
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combat capabilities but his background
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combat capabilities but his background
before that from 2011 to 2013 he managed
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before that from 2011 to 2013 he managed
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before that from 2011 to 2013 he managed
a classified project for Special
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a classified project for Special
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a classified project for Special
Operations Command SOCOM which I guess I
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Operations Command SOCOM which I guess I
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Operations Command SOCOM which I guess I
don’t get to ask you about and then be
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don’t get to ask you about and then be
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don’t get to ask you about and then be
I’m assuming and then 2010 to 2011 he
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I’m assuming and then 2010 to 2011 he
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I’m assuming and then 2010 to 2011 he
was chair of Special Operations and low
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was chair of Special Operations and low
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was chair of Special Operations and low
intensity conflict the National Defense
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intensity conflict the National Defense
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intensity conflict the National Defense
University and it goes online they he’s
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University and it goes online they he’s
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University and it goes online they he’s
got a long record of military service to
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got a long record of military service to
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got a long record of military service to
America where I was working with the
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America where I was working with the
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America where I was working with the
Department of Defense you formed a new
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Department of Defense you formed a new
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Department of Defense you formed a new
group the irregular warfare support iws
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group the irregular warfare support iws
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group the irregular warfare support iws
but the reason I want to talk to you
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but the reason I want to talk to you
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but the reason I want to talk to you
tonight was because of some of the
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tonight was because of some of the
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tonight was because of some of the
things you said in our home that evening
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things you said in our home that evening
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things you said in our home that evening
and they relate to an area where you an
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and they relate to an area where you an
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and they relate to an area where you an
expert I want to just say what your
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expert I want to just say what your
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expert I want to just say what your
resume says an expert on the nexus
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resume says an expert on the nexus
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resume says an expert on the nexus
between a theological between
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between a theological between
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between a theological between
theological doctrines and Information
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theological doctrines and Information
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theological doctrines and Information
Age unconventional warfare and you spent
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Age unconventional warfare and you spent
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Age unconventional warfare and you spent
20 years your life combating terrorism
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20 years your life combating terrorism
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20 years your life combating terrorism
so now that we have established who you
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so now that we have established who you
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so now that we have established who you
are
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are
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are
I want to talk about something you said
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I want to talk about something you said
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I want to talk about something you said
that night about the the battle we’re in
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that night about the the battle we’re in
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that night about the the battle we’re in
in America between America and radical
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in America between America and radical
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in America between America and radical
Islam and that we don’t see it at the
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Islam and that we don’t see it at the
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Islam and that we don’t see it at the
highest theological level at the
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highest theological level at the
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highest theological level at the
theological level that the Isis and
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theological level that the Isis and
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theological level that the Isis and
Islamic fighters see it so can you tell
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Islamic fighters see it so can you tell
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Islamic fighters see it so can you tell
us about that
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us about that
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us about that
what is the most important point that is
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what is the most important point that is
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what is the most important point that is
any enemy self defines and you know we
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any enemy self defines and you know we
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any enemy self defines and you know we
we have a very difficult time with our
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we have a very difficult time with our
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we have a very difficult time with our
Christian Westbury judeo-christian
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Christian Westbury judeo-christian
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Christian Westbury judeo-christian
your worldview understanding that the
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your worldview understanding that the
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your worldview understanding that the
court doctrinal tenants informed the
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court doctrinal tenants informed the
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court doctrinal tenants informed the
deliberate decision making process of
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deliberate decision making process of
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deliberate decision making process of
groups like Isis al-qaeda the Muslim
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groups like Isis al-qaeda the Muslim
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groups like Isis al-qaeda the Muslim
Brotherhood and others and I think
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Brotherhood and others and I think
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Brotherhood and others and I think
there’s an institutional and cultural
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there’s an institutional and cultural
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there’s an institutional and cultural
reluctance to accept that by our
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reluctance to accept that by our
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reluctance to accept that by our
politicians and policy makers and that’s
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politicians and policy makers and that’s
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politicians and policy makers and that’s
why we find ourselves where we are 15
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why we find ourselves where we are 15
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why we find ourselves where we are 15
years after 9/11 so you’re saying we in
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years after 9/11 so you’re saying we in
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years after 9/11 so you’re saying we in
America have a hard time recognizing
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America have a hard time recognizing
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America have a hard time recognizing
acknowledging that our country our
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acknowledging that our country our
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acknowledging that our country our
worldview is centered and based on
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worldview is centered and based on
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worldview is centered and based on
Christianity okay I think this
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Christianity okay I think this
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Christianity okay I think this
post-modernism in general ed class our
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post-modernism in general ed class our
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post-modernism in general ed class our
ability to understand that a fee
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ability to understand that a fee
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ability to understand that a fee
logically driven enemy who’s fighting
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logically driven enemy who’s fighting
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logically driven enemy who’s fighting
you know for what he believes is his God
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you know for what he believes is his God
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you know for what he believes is his God
called him to do it’s deeper than just a
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called him to do it’s deeper than just a
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called him to do it’s deeper than just a
political ideology and so what happens
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political ideology and so what happens
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political ideology and so what happens
is what do we we try and understand
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is what do we we try and understand
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is what do we we try and understand
Islam by understanding Christianity and
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Islam by understanding Christianity and
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Islam by understanding Christianity and
you can’t do that you have to understand
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you can’t do that you have to understand
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you can’t do that you have to understand
Islam period and until we’re willing to
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Islam period and until we’re willing to
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Islam period and until we’re willing to
do that we’re going to continue to
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do that we’re going to continue to
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do that we’re going to continue to
struggle to you to define ways to defeat
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struggle to you to define ways to defeat
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struggle to you to define ways to defeat
them but I think so long as our
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them but I think so long as our
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them but I think so long as our
policymakers and you know the Obama
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policymakers and you know the Obama
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policymakers and you know the Obama
administration in particular you know
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administration in particular you know
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administration in particular you know
it’s it’s in force meaning you can’t
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it’s it’s in force meaning you can’t
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it’s it’s in force meaning you can’t
even discuss this as a senior levels of
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even discuss this as a senior levels of
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even discuss this as a senior levels of
leadership at the Pentagon without being
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leadership at the Pentagon without being
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leadership at the Pentagon without being
called a racist or whatever and you know
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called a racist or whatever and you know
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called a racist or whatever and you know
it’s effectively shut down on our
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it’s effectively shut down on our
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it’s effectively shut down on our
strategic decision-making
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strategic decision-making
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strategic decision-making
you know I’m first of all thank you for
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you know I’m first of all thank you for
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you know I’m first of all thank you for
everything you’re just sharing with us
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everything you’re just sharing with us
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everything you’re just sharing with us
on the this particular subject in Islam
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on the this particular subject in Islam
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on the this particular subject in Islam
and I’m not obviously at all an expert
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and I’m not obviously at all an expert
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and I’m not obviously at all an expert
but my husband I have read a lot about
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but my husband I have read a lot about
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but my husband I have read a lot about
Islam and I think this idea of Islamic
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Islam and I think this idea of Islamic
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Islam and I think this idea of Islamic
supremacy embedded in Islam is so so
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supremacy embedded in Islam is so so
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supremacy embedded in Islam is so so
forward to the concept of America and in
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forward to the concept of America and in
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forward to the concept of America and in
Christianity that and this is part of
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Christianity that and this is part of
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Christianity that and this is part of
what you’re saying I think but we just
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what you’re saying I think but we just
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what you’re saying I think but we just
can’t believe that the war that’s being
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can’t believe that the war that’s being
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can’t believe that the war that’s being
fought against us by radical Muslims is
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fought against us by radical Muslims is
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fought against us by radical Muslims is
with the goal of Islamic world supremacy
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with the goal of Islamic world supremacy
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with the goal of Islamic world supremacy
we just
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we just
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we just
we think is somehow solvable by
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we think is somehow solvable by
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we think is somehow solvable by
capitulating in certain issues or change
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capitulating in certain issues or change
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capitulating in certain issues or change
you know changing the price of oil
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you know changing the price of oil
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you know changing the price of oil
something that just is and we because we
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something that just is and we because we
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something that just is and we because we
don’t have that that feel and in the
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don’t have that that feel and in the
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don’t have that that feel and in the
Western world that you would that
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Western world that you would that
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Western world that you would that
someone would actually fight a war to
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someone would actually fight a war to
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someone would actually fight a war to
have religious supremacy right I think
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have religious supremacy right I think
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have religious supremacy right I think
you know I mean one of the most
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you know I mean one of the most
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you know I mean one of the most
clear-cut examples and they use this
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clear-cut examples and they use this
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clear-cut examples and they use this
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often when explaining friends and family
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often when explaining friends and family
as well within your super mean as long
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as well within your super mean as long
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as well within your super mean as long
they have six rights of pure worship
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they have six rights of pure worship
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they have six rights of pure worship
which are your arms preventing
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which are your arms preventing
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which are your arms preventing
pilgrimage and then the sixth bread of
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pilgrimage and then the sixth bread of
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pilgrimage and then the sixth bread of
pure worship is jihad also you get the
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pure worship is jihad also you get the
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pure worship is jihad also you get the
five pillars of Islam will arms verified
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five pillars of Islam will arms verified
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five pillars of Islam will arms verified
by the pilgrimage without the jihad and
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by the pilgrimage without the jihad and
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by the pilgrimage without the jihad and
only reason jihad isn’t one of the
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only reason jihad isn’t one of the
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only reason jihad isn’t one of the
pillars of Islam is because eventually
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pillars of Islam is because eventually
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pillars of Islam is because eventually
they will have global Dominion and they
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they will have global Dominion and they
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they will have global Dominion and they
will reach hot anymore and so you know
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will reach hot anymore and so you know
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will reach hot anymore and so you know
when you understand it’s that sort of
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when you understand it’s that sort of
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when you understand it’s that sort of
global manifest that is built into the
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global manifest that is built into the
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global manifest that is built into the
religion
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religion
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religion
it’s been there for 1400 years you can
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it’s been there for 1400 years you can
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it’s been there for 1400 years you can
begin to accept it the thing that
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begin to accept it the thing that
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begin to accept it the thing that
amazing to me is I can show you
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amazing to me is I can show you
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amazing to me is I can show you
historically American leaders you know
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historically American leaders you know
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historically American leaders you know
gods like Thomas Jefferson and John
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gods like Thomas Jefferson and John
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gods like Thomas Jefferson and John
Adams who are well in the where and
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Adams who are well in the where and
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Adams who are well in the where and
created the Marine Corps understanding
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created the Marine Corps understanding
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created the Marine Corps understanding
that to stop the Barbary pirates they
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that to stop the Barbary pirates they
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that to stop the Barbary pirates they
would need to actually go fight there
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would need to actually go fight there
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would need to actually go fight there
and defeat them of the deal Algiers yes
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and defeat them of the deal Algiers yes
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and defeat them of the deal Algiers yes
today we have you know you know and it’s
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today we have you know you know and it’s
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today we have you know you know and it’s
not a political partisan issue per se
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not a political partisan issue per se
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not a political partisan issue per se
Democrats and Republicans both are
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Democrats and Republicans both are
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Democrats and Republicans both are
guilty of carrying on turning a blind
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guilty of carrying on turning a blind
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guilty of carrying on turning a blind
eye to this okay so all right you know I
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eye to this okay so all right you know I
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eye to this okay so all right you know I
do I think I mentioned you an email we
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do I think I mentioned you an email we
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do I think I mentioned you an email we
have a second hour round table and one
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have a second hour round table and one
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have a second hour round table and one
of our people who attend is Wade Miller
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of our people who attend is Wade Miller
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of our people who attend is Wade Miller
whose have he’s a marine he’s ex-marine
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whose have he’s a marine he’s ex-marine
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whose have he’s a marine he’s ex-marine
he say amazing political activist and he
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he say amazing political activist and he
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he say amazing political activist and he
may want to chime in in a moment but I
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may want to chime in in a moment but I
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may want to chime in in a moment but I
always want to ask you one thing then so
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always want to ask you one thing then so
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always want to ask you one thing then so
in this present
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in this present
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in this present
presidential election cycle you hear the
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presidential election cycle you hear the
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presidential election cycle you hear the
battle over and over between Hillary
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battle over and over between Hillary
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battle over and over between Hillary
Clinton and Barack Obama saying in the
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Clinton and Barack Obama saying in the
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Clinton and Barack Obama saying in the
one hand that is very bad it’s a bad
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one hand that is very bad it’s a bad
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one hand that is very bad it’s a bad
thing to use the expression radical
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thing to use the expression radical
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thing to use the expression radical
Islam because that simply infuriate it
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Islam because that simply infuriate it
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Islam because that simply infuriate it
stirs up the moderates it makes it
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stirs up the moderates it makes it
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stirs up the moderates it makes it
impossible to have Muslims join on our
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impossible to have Muslims join on our
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impossible to have Muslims join on our
side and and people on the right say no
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side and and people on the right say no
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side and and people on the right say no
you have to name it and you have to
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you have to name it and you have to
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you have to name it and you have to
understand it to defeat it so I think I
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understand it to defeat it so I think I
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understand it to defeat it so I think I
know your answer but whose right
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know your answer but whose right
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know your answer but whose right
that mr. Trump understands the president
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that mr. Trump understands the president
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that mr. Trump understands the president
you know he he recognizes that the
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you know he he recognizes that the
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you know he he recognizes that the
messaging is important the messaging is
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messaging is important the messaging is
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messaging is important the messaging is
important insofar as we communicate to
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important insofar as we communicate to
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important insofar as we communicate to
the public and particularly to the
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the public and particularly to the
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the public and particularly to the
public in places like the Middle East
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public in places like the Middle East
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public in places like the Middle East
what I worry more about is that that
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what I worry more about is that that
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what I worry more about is that that
sort of politically correct thinking
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sort of politically correct thinking
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sort of politically correct thinking
decision-making has infected things like
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decision-making has infected things like
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decision-making has infected things like
our intelligence community where you
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our intelligence community where you
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our intelligence community where you
notice whatever we want to study inside
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notice whatever we want to study inside
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notice whatever we want to study inside
the intelligence community is not
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the intelligence community is not
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the intelligence community is not
necessarily the public’s purview and so
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necessarily the public’s purview and so
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necessarily the public’s purview and so
where we should have thousands of
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where we should have thousands of
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where we should have thousands of
experts on Islamic doctor right now we
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experts on Islamic doctor right now we
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experts on Islamic doctor right now we
don’t and then move that we’ve brought
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don’t and then move that we’ve brought
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don’t and then move that we’ve brought
in moderates in quotations moderates to
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in moderates in quotations moderates to
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in moderates in quotations moderates to
tell us and to inform us about our
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tell us and to inform us about our
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tell us and to inform us about our
decision-making and what you have is
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decision-making and what you have is
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decision-making and what you have is
things like Libya Syria Iraq Afghanistan
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things like Libya Syria Iraq Afghanistan
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things like Libya Syria Iraq Afghanistan
and we get us run down the whole list
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and we get us run down the whole list
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and we get us run down the whole list
all informed by our quote/unquote
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all informed by our quote/unquote
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all informed by our quote/unquote
moderate allies so until we get serious
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moderate allies so until we get serious
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moderate allies so until we get serious
about this we’re going to continue to
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about this we’re going to continue to
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about this we’re going to continue to
struggle I have complete confidence that
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struggle I have complete confidence that
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struggle I have complete confidence that
mr. Trump will understand the threat dog
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mr. Trump will understand the threat dog
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mr. Trump will understand the threat dog
spoke with them about it and spoke with
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spoke with them about it and spoke with
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spoke with them about it and spoke with
other advisors about it I think he’s the
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other advisors about it I think he’s the
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other advisors about it I think he’s the
only choice big rich this is Wade Miller
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only choice big rich this is Wade Miller
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only choice big rich this is Wade Miller
so I’m glad you brought up the point
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so I’m glad you brought up the point
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so I’m glad you brought up the point
that we’ve been fighting radical Islam
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that we’ve been fighting radical Islam
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that we’ve been fighting radical Islam
since our founding
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since our founding
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since our founding
as a Marine where that’s something that
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as a Marine where that’s something that
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as a Marine where that’s something that
we’re well aware of and this is someone
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we’re well aware of and this is someone
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we’re well aware of and this is someone
who I don’t necessarily agree with on a
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who I don’t necessarily agree with on a
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who I don’t necessarily agree with on a
lot and it’s Sam Harris but he made a
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lot and it’s Sam Harris but he made a
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lot and it’s Sam Harris but he made a
really good point one on radical Islam
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really good point one on radical Islam
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really good point one on radical Islam
which is that faiths are in beliefs are
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which is that faiths are in beliefs are
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which is that faiths are in beliefs are
equal in our minds but they’re
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equal in our minds but they’re
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equal in our minds but they’re
definitely not equal in terms of their
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definitely not equal in terms of their
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definitely not equal in terms of their
impacts on civil society culture what
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impacts on civil society culture what
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impacts on civil society culture what
are the major things you think that the
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are the major things you think that the
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are the major things you think that the
next administration needs to do that
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next administration needs to do that
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next administration needs to do that
would drastically improve our footing
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would drastically improve our footing
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would drastically improve our footing
against this threat of radical Islam I
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against this threat of radical Islam I
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against this threat of radical Islam I
think there are two key things that I
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think there are two key things that I
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think there are two key things that I
think I encourage every political leader
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think I encourage every political leader
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think I encourage every political leader
to do the first is we have to start our
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to do the first is we have to start our
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to do the first is we have to start our
understanding of this threat here at
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understanding of this threat here at
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understanding of this threat here at
home any sort of prescriptive response
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home any sort of prescriptive response
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home any sort of prescriptive response
has to begin with treating our own
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has to begin with treating our own
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has to begin with treating our own
bodies the subversion and the actors
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bodies the subversion and the actors
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bodies the subversion and the actors
that we brought inside of our system
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that we brought inside of our system
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that we brought inside of our system
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that are actually polluting our thinking
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that are actually polluting our thinking
it is the moderate
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it is the moderate
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it is the moderate
it is the Muslim Brotherhood folks who
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it is the Muslim Brotherhood folks who
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it is the Muslim Brotherhood folks who
are inside the wire here inside the US
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are inside the wire here inside the US
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are inside the wire here inside the US
government voters government employees
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government voters government employees
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government voters government employees
brothers contractors we’re advising the
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brothers contractors we’re advising the
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brothers contractors we’re advising the
White House we’re inviting congressmen
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White House we’re inviting congressmen
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White House we’re inviting congressmen
groups like care which is actually Hamas
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groups like care which is actually Hamas
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groups like care which is actually Hamas
and others the second thing is a
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and others the second thing is a
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and others the second thing is a
readjustment of basic American political
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readjustment of basic American political
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readjustment of basic American political
philosophical teachings on American
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philosophical teachings on American
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philosophical teachings on American
civics so that we understand where the
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civics so that we understand where the
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civics so that we understand where the
where these frictions actually exists
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where these frictions actually exists
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where these frictions actually exists
between Islamic doctrine in the American
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between Islamic doctrine in the American
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between Islamic doctrine in the American
political ideology because so long as it
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political ideology because so long as it
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political ideology because so long as it
continued to fine as long as simply
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continued to fine as long as simply
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continued to fine as long as simply
religion we will lose it is a political
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religion we will lose it is a political
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religion we will lose it is a political
system it has its own course the tides
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system it has its own course the tides
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system it has its own course the tides
own financial system and so we really
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own financial system and so we really
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own financial system and so we really
are struggling with this and then lack
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are struggling with this and then lack
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are struggling with this and then lack
of critical thinking and reason being
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of critical thinking and reason being
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of critical thinking and reason being
applied for the problems that is I think
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applied for the problems that is I think
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applied for the problems that is I think
the most troubling aspect of all I got
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the most troubling aspect of all I got
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the most troubling aspect of all I got
jump in Trish we only have like ten
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jump in Trish we only have like ten
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jump in Trish we only have like ten
seconds in this segment and I did can
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seconds in this segment and I did can
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seconds in this segment and I did can
you set hold on during the break sure
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you set hold on during the break sure
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you set hold on during the break sure
thank you so very much speaking of rich
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thank you so very much speaking of rich
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thank you so very much speaking of rich
Higgins great expert come back after the
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Higgins great expert come back after the
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Higgins great expert come back after the
break we’re going to keep on learning
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break we’re going to keep on learning
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break we’re going to keep on learning
much more about this battle to defend
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much more about this battle to defend
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much more about this battle to defend
America
