Americans for Intelligence Reform

Brad Johnson, President, and retired CIA Senior Officer and Chief of Staff. Insight into current events from an intelligence angle.

Brad Johnson on Patrick Byrne reporting details on Spygate scandal.

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Brad Johnson so this whole deep state

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slash anti-state fake news slash

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propaganda thing is escalating

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I think beyond like beyond the ability

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to easily grasp how deep and how intense

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and how dark this whole thing is now

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we’ve got this CEO from a high tech

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company that seems to it’s somehow

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connected to blockchain don’t really

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remember much more than that

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I think people in the high tech world

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are very familiar with this guy and I

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think extremely credible P I forget his

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name already even though Patrick Byrne

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is this name yes and highly credible

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people and well reputable people

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established people told him to come

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forward with his extraordinary story and

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you know what I’m reluctant to even say

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a word about what that story is because

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it’s you know you get one word wrong I’m

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gonna leave it to you because please

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just you know if you can give us any

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insight on what this whole thing is

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about and what its implications are in

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terms of the extent to which

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intelligence organizations in the United

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States appear to have been subverted to

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a purpose completely other than

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constitutional that’s exactly right I I

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that it’s it’s such an interesting case

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and there’s so many aspects of this I’ll

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I’m gonna try to go through all of the

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things that really float to the top for

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me just first in a nutshell what has

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happened is Patrick Byrne who was CEO of

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overstock.com overstock.com

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he was one of the founders of the

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company and was CEO for all of this time

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I think 20 years almost exactly to the

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day is when he’s just resigned he has

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said that he’s resigned because he’s

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going public on this knew he was going

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to draw a lot of heat a lot of fire if

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you will and so did not want that to

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impact his company of which of course

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he’s a major stockholder too so it makes

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sense he has separated himself so that

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whatever happens here doesn’t doesn’t

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impact overstock.com now he does have

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other interests like you say blockchain

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and Bitcoin

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and things like that he’s kind of into

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all of that world as well so he’s

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well-known among the techie world if you

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would like to say that Internet techie

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that are out there so that’s him now I

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would just take a couple words about him

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as an individual as you know former CIA

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guy operations former chief stationed

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all that background one of the things

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that we’ve always looked at and trained

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and at least in the old days used to be

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trained to look at very carefully is who

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precisely is the individual and this

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Patrick Byrne has kind of an interesting

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way about him an interesting mind if you

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will and and I went through all of his

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interviews that he gave on television

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which I think he made four major ones

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and has done a lot of other little stuff

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he’s been talked about by a lot of

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people one of the very interesting

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things about him now he’s taken this

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overstock.com from nothing to being a

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major component man and involved in a

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lot of other things right he’s you know

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doing well so you can’t look at him and

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go he’s a dummy but on the other hand

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you know he can’t string two words

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together he’s one of the worst interview

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guests I think you know you you ever see

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on like all the major television

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networks and really has a very hard time

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and he’s got very flighty mind and just

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jumps from this to this to this to this

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so he’s very incoherent in speaking one

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of the interesting things out of that

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type of personality which is not

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uncommon is that that those type of

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people very interesting they often tend

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to be excellent writers but just can’t

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speak to save their life so I wouldn’t

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know of course but just guessing as CEO

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they most of what he did was in a

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written form to all of the people that

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worked in the company so that things

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could be presented in a coherent cogent

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manner which like I said speaking he

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just he just can’t do it his mind keeps

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flitting from thing to thing to thing so

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he himself in these interviews noted and

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this is why I mentioned all of this he

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himself noted that what he’s going to do

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is put this all down pin in paper if you

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will he’s gonna write it all out and

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post it on a site that he used to be

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involved with apparently and and will

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then post all those things there so as

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those come out I

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that’s going to be far more detailed and

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revealing than what we’re getting out of

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him verbally just because he’s so

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disjointed in the way that he presents

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this stuff it’s hard to string it all

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together now back to the background in

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which this this all appears toss which

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is very interesting I’ve spoken a great

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deal about this and I would say I’m

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pretty far out on the limb if you will

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on on my my my observations of this

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whole thing and I’ve talked about all

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roads lead back to John Brennan how this

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was all something that was instituted

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long before President Trump became

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President Trump before he won the

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election and I’ve talked a great deal

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about how the face of warrant Fiasco was

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all part of this thing that started out

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during the campaign and meeting into the

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2016 elections and how all this began

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early and that the only scenario that

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fits the circumstances is that this

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arose out of Hillary Clinton and her the

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loss of control of all these classified

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documents that ended up on WikiLeaks now

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that led us back to Seth Ridge who was

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murdered downtown who apparently was the

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source of these leaks to WikiLeaks and

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so on so that’s that’s that’s where kind

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of the origin of this was and that

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timing has something that’s been greatly

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disputed of course completely denied by

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mainstream media they provide zero

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coverage of it but now just since I’ve

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covered that in so much of detail before

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I won’t spend a lot of time on it now

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but that now zipped back to the present

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moment here where we have this Patrick

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Byrne who comes out and some of the

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things that he said then are absolute

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you know confirmation of all of these

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things I’ve been saying I I look at this

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as just it’s just every time we get a

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new bit of information or you know a new

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area to look at all of it fits into this

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scenario exactly as I have laid it out

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over a long period of time now and even

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what he says is that he was contacted

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back in 2015 which elections were in

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November of 2016 this is well in

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anticipation

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so there’s this way it basically unfolds

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as he describes it as he meets this boot

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inna the Russian girl and she’s

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presented to him as some sort of when

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first he meets her on his own he’s got

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apparently a low-level clearance so he

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reports the foreign contact as you are

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required to do if you hold the clearance

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and so it gets checked nobody really

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cares because it’s yeah it’s it’s not

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that sort of thing that rises to the top

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it’s it’s it’s not like she’s the vice

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president of her company of his company

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or something like that that’s doing

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government contracting or something like

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that would start to raise

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counterintelligence eyebrows if you will

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and people would start to look at it but

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so this is just some girl eMED has a

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romantic liaison with her for a period

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of six months or so as what he claims

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but all of this starts to flip back up

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when it comes time for elections and he

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gets contacted by the FBI which he calls

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the men in black which I’m not precisely

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sure why that would be the reference you

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know there’s the famous movies that are

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about space and things which I don’t

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like I say I don’t really see the

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connection to the FBI out of that but

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that’s how he refers to them so he’s

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contacted by the FBI and he says that he

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discovered this past summer when all of

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this started to float to the top and

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people started to see more of more

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details he figured it out that this is

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all being consciouness straw now there

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were people sent by Peter straw to speak

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to Patrick Byrne but it was all being

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the immediate supervisor for was Peter

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struck now Peter struck this is very

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unusual just in and of itself which it’s

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also kind of confirmation of what we’ve

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been hearing and what I’ve been saying

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so keep in mind Peter stroke was head of

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the counterintelligence division for the

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FBI the FBI split in to basically have

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the main leadership the director of the

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FBI handful of people at that level and

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then immediately following them and very

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very senior and certainly talking to the

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director on a daily basis you have the

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criminal division and you have the CI

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division the counter

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television now the criminal course is

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much larger but still CI division is an

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important area out of the CIA so you

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have this very senior guy personally

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running a case directing the FBI agents

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to go do this and come back and tell me

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and according to again burn Patrick

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Byrne he didn’t identify all of them but

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certainly he gave all of the leadership

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at the FBI

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including Co me up to and including

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Comey at the FBI and and McCabe and the

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deputy and so on through true Peter

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strong so he says that all these guys

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were involved plus somebody else and

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that that somebody else was personally

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asking for his cooperation now he

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doesn’t say who it is however President

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Obama was raised as a possibility and he

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said don’t assume that you know don’t

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assume that was was Obama which again

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makes perfect sense in this scenario

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that I’ve laid out he was specifically

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asked about John Brennan who was at that

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time the director of the CIA now I think

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that’s the unmentioned name at this

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point which he has said he gave to the

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the Department of Justice in these

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interviews that he did in early in late

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April he had two interviews seven-hour

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period of time goodly amount of

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discussion over over these two different

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days I think the fifth of April and the

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30th of April were the days he mentioned

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so he’s passed this all to DOJ

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now that unmentioned name I’m

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speculating was John Brennan he’s the

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that’s would fit exactly the scenario of

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everything I’m discussing and I’m hoping

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that when Minister Bern puts out the the

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printed version of the written version

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of what he’s talking about that it’ll

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it’ll reveal that name but there is this

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unknown name that’s still out there and

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all of the leadership of the FBI so

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other people I wouldn’t be surprised

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because back to those same three names

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which I’ve mentioned over and over and

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over that always end up being at the

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center of this and then as Jim Comey

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James clapper who was the then director

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of national intelligence which is in

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essence supposedly the head of all

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intelligence activities and then John

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Brennan himself who was

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the director of the CIA at the time so

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I’m expecting those names to pop up

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we’ll see but that’s what would fit the

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circumstances and certainly the scenario

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that I’m I’m arguing for up to this

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point so he makes a number of

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interesting things one is a comment one

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is that now he has these in April right

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on the heels of that on May 13th John

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Durham is appointed to investigate this

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as a special investigator he’s a

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prosecutor for DOJ one that’s well known

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to move in these sorts of cases and

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circles and be effective on it so AG bar

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attorney general US Attorney General

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Barr appoints Durham to investigate this

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now that timing is all correct it’s

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interesting he had the interview and v

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the FBI would have looked at all of this

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said or DOJ rather and looked at all

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this and said holy moley suddenly we’re

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finding a lot of stuff they have a bunch

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of follow-up questions and go back on

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the 30th which that timing between the

0:12:03.560,0:12:07.730
5th and the 30th is about right it gives

0:12:05.930,0:12:09.790
them time to go follow up on everything

0:12:07.730,0:12:11.750
they learned in the first interview

0:12:09.790,0:12:14.000
prepare all their questions for the

0:12:11.750,0:12:16.699
second interview and go back and take a

0:12:14.000,0:12:18.439
look at it then again moving forward to

0:12:16.699,0:12:21.319
the 30th of April they didn’t get all

0:12:18.439,0:12:26.089
their follow-up questions in and 13 May

0:12:21.319,0:12:29.300
Durham is appointed and burn burns

0:12:26.089,0:12:32.060
claims that that the appointment of

0:12:29.300,0:12:35.930
Durham was a proposed exactly a result

0:12:32.060,0:12:36.439
of his the information that he gave to

0:12:35.930,0:12:39.079
DOJ

0:12:36.439,0:12:42.800
the timing all fits that I I tend to

0:12:39.079,0:12:44.779
think that’s exactly right yeah one of

0:12:42.800,0:12:47.149
the other very interesting aspects out

0:12:44.779,0:12:50.420
of this as this Russian girl utena who

0:12:47.149,0:12:53.389
is I I think essentially a pawn out of

0:12:50.420,0:12:57.079
all of this now she’s been convicted and

0:12:53.389,0:12:58.790
sitting in jail the way them now most

0:12:57.079,0:13:00.139
people I don’t think focus on this and

0:12:58.790,0:13:03.920
doesn’t normally matter all that much

0:13:00.139,0:13:05.779
but the prosecutors are the ones that

0:13:03.920,0:13:09.800
get to say where if you’re convicted of

0:13:05.779,0:13:13.100
something they they set the the jail or

0:13:09.800,0:13:15.170
the institution in which your jail

0:13:13.100,0:13:16.970
according to whatever the I know the

0:13:15.170,0:13:19.160
reaction is to the okay so they pick

0:13:16.970,0:13:20.900
where you go to jail basically booty

0:13:19.160,0:13:24.470
know is set to a place where she was

0:13:20.900,0:13:26.360
essentially in isolation and of course

0:13:24.470,0:13:27.140
that if you want I keep somebody’s mouth

0:13:26.360,0:13:28.640
shut

0:13:27.140,0:13:30.140
that’s what you would want to do put him

0:13:28.640,0:13:32.480
in jail in isolation and nobody’s going

0:13:30.140,0:13:35.630
to hear what’s going on so again right

0:13:32.480,0:13:37.370
on the heels of all of this attorney at

0:13:35.630,0:13:40.640
US attorney general bar takes a look at

0:13:37.370,0:13:43.760
that through his through Durham and she

0:13:40.640,0:13:46.460
gets moved and again the timing of all

0:13:43.760,0:13:48.140
of this is very interesting so she’s one

0:13:46.460,0:13:52.100
of the one of the people that would come

0:13:48.140,0:13:55.280
in and confirm much of what Burns has

0:13:52.100,0:13:57.410
said burn Patrick Byrne has said so I

0:13:55.280,0:13:58.970
think that was all done and her being

0:13:57.410,0:14:00.950
moved to a different place where it’s

0:13:58.970,0:14:03.590
less controlled and not as ours is

0:14:00.950,0:14:06.980
something now that Muller is gone as far

0:14:03.590,0:14:09.860
as prosecutor a special investigator so

0:14:06.980,0:14:11.660
that then falls back to DA Jay to have

0:14:09.860,0:14:13.130
that control which they’ve moved her so

0:14:11.660,0:14:14.900
that very very interesting now I would

0:14:13.130,0:14:18.650
say is this point looking at all of it

0:14:14.900,0:14:20.810
there’s two huge winners one of course

0:14:18.650,0:14:24.470
is the obvious one which is Donald Trump

0:14:20.810,0:14:26.210
and because out of all eventually talk

0:14:24.470,0:14:28.400
about all of us as we go further on but

0:14:26.210,0:14:29.840
all of this again is a reflection of

0:14:28.400,0:14:31.990
what Trump has been saying from the very

0:14:29.840,0:14:34.610
beginning it’s just more of evidence and

0:14:31.990,0:14:36.410
damning evidence that what he’s been

0:14:34.610,0:14:38.870
saying about being spied on was true

0:14:36.410,0:14:40.550
from the very beginning though that was

0:14:38.870,0:14:43.280
cut in and mentioned one thing though

0:14:40.550,0:14:43.610
that actually first of all well two

0:14:43.280,0:14:46.190
things

0:14:43.610,0:14:48.140
I think his referring to the FBI is men

0:14:46.190,0:14:50.690
and black would be consistent with what

0:14:48.140,0:14:53.510
in his interview he showed to be a kind

0:14:50.690,0:14:56.660
of romantic of intelligence services

0:14:53.510,0:14:58.610
because I definitely as I heard him talk

0:14:56.660,0:15:00.350
I had the sense that he’s like that game

0:14:58.610,0:15:01.970
show host that also claimed to have

0:15:00.350,0:15:06.440
worked you know I’m talking about he was

0:15:01.970,0:15:09.260
a the gong show Chuck Barris I he struck

0:15:06.440,0:15:12.650
me as being somebody who had

0:15:09.260,0:15:14.150
sufficiently romanticized Intel services

0:15:12.650,0:15:17.060
that being asked to participate in

0:15:14.150,0:15:19.070
events made you know gave him a sense of

0:15:17.060,0:15:21.290
something special and I just think he

0:15:19.070,0:15:22.640
had that very romantic notion so that

0:15:21.290,0:15:24.710
would sort of explain why he referred

0:15:22.640,0:15:26.780
the FB i–‘s men in black I think but

0:15:24.710,0:15:30.320
the thing that was I think

0:15:26.780,0:15:33.740
surprising to most people was that he

0:15:30.320,0:15:37.790
had said that this was an overall deep

0:15:33.740,0:15:41.530
state slash anti state plot against both

0:15:37.790,0:15:43.580
Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump and

0:15:41.530,0:15:46.370
what’s interesting about that is I think

0:15:43.580,0:15:48.650
that vast majority people have seen this

0:15:46.370,0:15:51.470
whole Russian collusion scandal as a

0:15:48.650,0:15:52.970
plot by Hillary Clinton against Donald

0:15:51.470,0:15:56.300
Trump I think you’ve mentioned something

0:15:52.970,0:15:57.560
about that before yes this is something

0:15:56.300,0:16:02.050
we’ve talked about a great deal and I

0:15:57.560,0:16:04.100
will definitely come to all of that and

0:16:02.050,0:16:06.950
what you mentioned about his talking

0:16:04.100,0:16:08.390
about the men in black and so on there

0:16:06.950,0:16:10.040
there was an element I was going to come

0:16:08.390,0:16:11.630
to later but let me mention it now on

0:16:10.040,0:16:14.630
his personality and that was kind of why

0:16:11.630,0:16:17.060
I raised this as a subject from the

0:16:14.630,0:16:20.360
perspective of intelligence he’s like

0:16:17.060,0:16:22.010
the perfect guy to get cooperation with

0:16:20.360,0:16:23.600
because he’s rich enough he doesn’t want

0:16:22.010,0:16:26.210
anything so you don’t have to like pay

0:16:23.600,0:16:28.130
him he’s doing this and I think this is

0:16:26.210,0:16:30.170
genuine on his part he says he does it

0:16:28.130,0:16:31.640
because he’s a loyal citizen of the

0:16:30.170,0:16:35.600
United States and he doesn’t have a

0:16:31.640,0:16:37.640
particular political axe to grind but I

0:16:35.600,0:16:39.230
and and this scene this is gonna sound a

0:16:37.640,0:16:42.950
little cruel and it isn’t really meant

0:16:39.230,0:16:45.470
to be but he’s essentially this guy

0:16:42.950,0:16:47.000
that’s been successful and so of course

0:16:45.470,0:16:48.950
there’s always kind of a yearning for

0:16:47.000,0:16:50.810
something more if you will you know how

0:16:48.950,0:16:53.960
to do more or succeed more or whatever

0:16:50.810,0:16:55.400
on these I’m not as this type of person

0:16:53.960,0:16:57.950
is his personality type

0:16:55.400,0:17:00.440
so he’s what what I would call at least

0:16:57.950,0:17:02.330
and it’s often called referred to this

0:17:00.440,0:17:07.520
way in the business is he’s a wannabe

0:17:02.330,0:17:10.699
you know he loves the idea of spy stuff

0:17:07.520,0:17:12.620
and and being associated with it and any

0:17:10.699,0:17:13.939
sort of intelligence thing because it’s

0:17:12.620,0:17:15.740
this sort of closed world at

0:17:13.939,0:17:18.709
skullduggery it’s one of the things you

0:17:15.740,0:17:20.780
cannot buy with money and so he’s got

0:17:18.709,0:17:22.370
that aspect of his personality where he

0:17:20.780,0:17:23.990
wanted to be involved with it and he’d

0:17:22.370,0:17:25.490
mentioned that in a murder case that he

0:17:23.990,0:17:27.680
was involved supporting law enforcement

0:17:25.490,0:17:29.870
and another case of something on Wall

0:17:27.680,0:17:32.180
Street apparently an insider trading

0:17:29.870,0:17:34.820
type of situation that he helped with

0:17:32.180,0:17:37.080
and so this was a natural and now these

0:17:34.820,0:17:38.700
guys would have recognized that in

0:17:37.080,0:17:40.619
and recognize that there was a

0:17:38.700,0:17:42.600
willingness on his part to participate

0:17:40.619,0:17:44.249
and the way that he would have come to

0:17:42.600,0:17:46.289
their attention and and the point I

0:17:44.249,0:17:50.489
would have made later on is that that

0:17:46.289,0:17:53.789
this Bou Tina was kind of what set this

0:17:50.489,0:17:55.919
off they they saw a ready-made case so

0:17:53.789,0:17:57.269
they basically ignored boo Tina and his

0:17:55.919,0:17:59.009
relationship with her all the way

0:17:57.269,0:18:05.070
through to where he’d already you know

0:17:59.009,0:18:07.230
dumped her and moved on in life and you

0:18:05.070,0:18:09.299
know they kind of raised it back up and

0:18:07.230,0:18:11.100
we’re instructing them to start to use

0:18:09.299,0:18:12.899
her again deal with her again in order

0:18:11.100,0:18:15.379
to make inroads she was somebody that

0:18:12.899,0:18:19.259
was working was trying to work on NRA

0:18:15.379,0:18:20.909
National Rifle Association type issues

0:18:19.259,0:18:22.830
and so she was involved with those guys

0:18:20.909,0:18:27.299
and meeting senior Republican leadership

0:18:22.830,0:18:29.190
and so on around the NRA and I wouldn’t

0:18:27.299,0:18:30.869
be surprised if she was kind of sleeping

0:18:29.190,0:18:32.070
her way around I don’t know that but

0:18:30.869,0:18:33.960
it’s just kind of what has been

0:18:32.070,0:18:36.029
discussed about her is that that was how

0:18:33.960,0:18:38.249
she was increasing her access to these

0:18:36.029,0:18:39.869
people by you know fairly young girl and

0:18:38.249,0:18:41.970
generally older guys and so they would

0:18:39.869,0:18:44.220
meet her at these events around the NRA

0:18:41.970,0:18:46.289
so she was somebody that was welcome to

0:18:44.220,0:18:48.629
these events by by some of these

0:18:46.289,0:18:50.100
gentlemen now again speculation I don’t

0:18:48.629,0:18:52.259
know that but that’s that’s kind of the

0:18:50.100,0:18:54.450
rumor going around now the the other

0:18:52.259,0:18:56.730
point about I was gonna make about the

0:18:54.450,0:18:58.619
big winners Trump being one the other

0:18:56.730,0:19:00.840
that is just has been completely

0:18:58.619,0:19:03.389
unassociated with this so far but nobody

0:19:00.840,0:19:06.330
has has made this link yet is general

0:19:03.389,0:19:09.899
Flynn because see this is how this is

0:19:06.330,0:19:15.629
all laid out this shows entrapment of

0:19:09.899,0:19:18.330
boo Tina because they ordered Patrick

0:19:15.629,0:19:20.940
Byrne to have her go do all of this

0:19:18.330,0:19:23.369
stuff so is it government past but she

0:19:20.940,0:19:25.710
didn’t know that later then under the

0:19:23.369,0:19:29.190
Muller investigation their roster and

0:19:25.710,0:19:30.629
put her in jail and so being behind the

0:19:29.190,0:19:32.220
scenes directed by the government to do

0:19:30.629,0:19:34.440
it for which you’re later arrested

0:19:32.220,0:19:35.759
that’s entrapment all right simple thing

0:19:34.440,0:19:38.039
I’m sure there’s many lawyers who would

0:19:35.759,0:19:41.879
explain it far better than I do but

0:19:38.039,0:19:45.119
that’s the essence of it now it also

0:19:41.879,0:19:47.249
shows that this that how all of this was

0:19:45.119,0:19:48.869
done and the methods behind it all and

0:19:47.249,0:19:50.429
the motivations behind it all were

0:19:48.869,0:19:52.470
purely political

0:19:50.429,0:19:54.450
that’s why Patrick Byrne was directed to

0:19:52.470,0:19:58.710
do all this there was nothing associated

0:19:54.450,0:20:02.580
with any actual case so that is going to

0:19:58.710,0:20:04.409
be perfect for use by general Flynn and

0:20:02.580,0:20:07.289
his case and we’ve already had the judge

0:20:04.409,0:20:09.419
in his case say I’ve never put anybody

0:20:07.289,0:20:11.159
in jail on a plea deal that wasn’t

0:20:09.419,0:20:12.840
guilty and I’m not going to start now

0:20:11.159,0:20:15.450
the judge has already figured this out

0:20:12.840,0:20:18.299
so the the the Flynn team is going to be

0:20:15.450,0:20:20.850
able to take this as it unfolds and pull

0:20:18.299,0:20:22.350
and and use it in their own case to show

0:20:20.850,0:20:25.320
evidence of how this whole thing was

0:20:22.350,0:20:27.419
political and contrived and of the deal

0:20:25.320,0:20:29.789
the plea deal that was made is probably

0:20:27.419,0:20:33.389
illegal because it wasn’t based on

0:20:29.789,0:20:35.369
actual cases or broken laws if you will

0:20:33.389,0:20:38.070
that sort of thing so it was all

0:20:35.369,0:20:39.720
politically motivated so I think this I

0:20:38.070,0:20:43.350
think you’re gonna see Flynn come out of

0:20:39.720,0:20:45.269
this well so I in my opinion those are

0:20:43.350,0:20:46.980
the two big winners now to one of the

0:20:45.269,0:20:49.980
points that you were making here about

0:20:46.980,0:20:52.799
how now so again we’re moving forward

0:20:49.980,0:20:55.559
again in time and so what Patrick Byrne

0:20:52.799,0:20:57.659
has said is that he was instructed now

0:20:55.559,0:20:58.289
he’s to rekindle the relationship with

0:20:57.659,0:21:02.879
boo Tina

0:20:58.289,0:21:06.929
and he’s truck he’s going to use as a

0:21:02.879,0:21:12.509
very wealthy man and donor his contacts

0:21:06.929,0:21:17.509
to ingratiate her so now the way that in

0:21:12.509,0:21:20.909
the FBI according to burn told him to

0:21:17.509,0:21:23.879
you know that they’re their take on boo

0:21:20.909,0:21:25.679
Tina is that she’s this idealistic young

0:21:23.879,0:21:27.299
lady who wants to help peace in the

0:21:25.679,0:21:29.580
world sort of thing now those are my

0:21:27.299,0:21:31.259
words but that’s essentially the essence

0:21:29.580,0:21:32.700
of what they’re doing now one of the

0:21:31.259,0:21:35.429
things that I’ve said all along about

0:21:32.700,0:21:38.429
this whole case is how childish it is

0:21:35.429,0:21:40.320
and one of the things now if it’s like

0:21:38.429,0:21:42.629
anything else if you’re you know been

0:21:40.320,0:21:44.820
doing something for 30 or 40 years I

0:21:42.629,0:21:47.190
mean you just know how the whole thing

0:21:44.820,0:21:49.619
works and you become an expert on it and

0:21:47.190,0:21:52.169
so you look at somebody who’s like just

0:21:49.619,0:21:54.119
starting out the first day and almost it

0:21:52.169,0:21:56.309
doesn’t matter the skill set somebody

0:21:54.119,0:21:58.279
who’s just starting the 30 or 40 your

0:21:56.309,0:22:00.899
veteran will take a look at what they do

0:21:58.279,0:22:02.650
yeah you know this guy’s so much to

0:22:00.899,0:22:04.150
learn you know you can tell you just

0:22:02.650,0:22:05.920
get it and you know what’s right what’s

0:22:04.150,0:22:07.810
wrong why they’re making the mistakes

0:22:05.920,0:22:10.120
they make and so on and this is a

0:22:07.810,0:22:14.190
perfect example of what I’ve always said

0:22:10.120,0:22:17.230
this intelligence whole program I think

0:22:14.190,0:22:19.000
the mastermind was John Brennan and if

0:22:17.230,0:22:21.190
you look at these instructions like oh

0:22:19.000,0:22:23.040
this girl is an idealistic young thing

0:22:21.190,0:22:26.080
who wants to have peace in the world

0:22:23.040,0:22:28.000
that’s a cover story so that’s what the

0:22:26.080,0:22:29.530
FBI presented to Patrick Byrne now

0:22:28.000,0:22:30.730
Patrick Byrne nonprofessional he does

0:22:29.530,0:22:32.020
all the stuff he doesn’t know the

0:22:30.730,0:22:34.330
difference but you get a professional

0:22:32.020,0:22:36.910
look at you go oh my god what you know

0:22:34.330,0:22:40.300
an infantile childish cover story that

0:22:36.910,0:22:42.820
they gave for Rutina to Patrick Byrne

0:22:40.300,0:22:44.830
and it just fits this whole thing that I

0:22:42.820,0:22:47.080
see again for me now personally that’s

0:22:44.830,0:22:52.060
kind of a more confirmation of what I’ve

0:22:47.080,0:22:55.810
been saying because as as director of

0:22:52.060,0:22:57.550
the CIA John Brennan was never up to the

0:22:55.810,0:22:59.650
task he was you know basically washed

0:22:57.550,0:23:01.300
out of the agency early on had no

0:22:59.650,0:23:04.360
operational experience or training to

0:23:01.300,0:23:06.400
speak of so he doesn’t know and so I

0:23:04.360,0:23:08.290
look at it as an experienced guy what

0:23:06.400,0:23:11.230
John Brennan did and how he became

0:23:08.290,0:23:13.030
director of the CIA oh my god and I look

0:23:11.230,0:23:14.920
at that but what a juvenile thing okay

0:23:13.030,0:23:17.140
well that fits exactly the pattern I’ve

0:23:14.920,0:23:20.320
seen out of all of this stuff I mean it

0:23:17.140,0:23:22.240
was so amateurish because of the people

0:23:20.320,0:23:24.160
you put in charge one point on that I

0:23:22.240,0:23:25.980
know it’s an aside so forgive me but

0:23:24.160,0:23:28.930
it’s what you see out of the left

0:23:25.980,0:23:30.610
worldwide not just by the liberals here

0:23:28.930,0:23:32.730
in the United States but by socialists

0:23:30.610,0:23:36.790
and communists everywhere in the world

0:23:32.730,0:23:38.440
who they promote up is not the person

0:23:36.790,0:23:41.140
who has the best skill set to match the

0:23:38.440,0:23:42.880
need that’s on the conservative side you

0:23:41.140,0:23:45.100
see they tend to hire somebody’s really

0:23:42.880,0:23:46.750
good whoever’s in charge of economics is

0:23:45.100,0:23:48.850
a guy with an economic background who’s

0:23:46.750,0:23:50.800
got years of experience and is an expert

0:23:48.850,0:23:53.140
on it who the left moves into that

0:23:50.800,0:23:55.690
position is somebody that’s politically

0:23:53.140,0:23:59.020
reliable that is always the way that the

0:23:55.690,0:24:00.820
left leftist philosophy operates and so

0:23:59.020,0:24:04.030
these people that we’ve seen moved up to

0:24:00.820,0:24:07.150
the CIA D&I FBI intelligence in

0:24:04.030,0:24:09.700
particular but FBI in general DOJ all of

0:24:07.150,0:24:11.530
them are those they’re leftist and so

0:24:09.700,0:24:12.060
they’re promoted up based on their

0:24:11.530,0:24:14.790
political

0:24:12.060,0:24:17.430
reliability and loyalty not on their

0:24:14.790,0:24:19.980
skills and so out of that then we see

0:24:17.430,0:24:22.020
this juvenile treatment of this of this

0:24:19.980,0:24:23.760
case you know just you know they would

0:24:22.020,0:24:25.590
have I you know if it have been a senior

0:24:23.760,0:24:26.880
guy that worked for me that started

0:24:25.590,0:24:28.880
saying let’s do all this stuff

0:24:26.880,0:24:31.140
you know I’d upset him off to Timbuktu

0:24:28.880,0:24:32.520
you have gotten rid of it because it

0:24:31.140,0:24:34.970
just he just clearly doesn’t know what

0:24:32.520,0:24:37.500
he’s doing it needs more experience so

0:24:34.970,0:24:40.110
by the way that entrapment I think we’re

0:24:37.500,0:24:42.840
gonna see that entrapment defense used

0:24:40.110,0:24:44.820
by Bettina at her defense team as well

0:24:42.840,0:24:46.380
and so I think I think you’re gonna see

0:24:44.820,0:24:49.170
some of these people walk pretty quick

0:24:46.380,0:24:50.670
plan boo Tina all of these all of these

0:24:49.170,0:24:52.590
cases are gonna start to fall apart

0:24:50.670,0:24:54.210
because now they’re under scrutiny one

0:24:52.590,0:24:57.120
of the things I’ve said all along this

0:24:54.210,0:25:01.560
whole thing was setup started way back

0:24:57.120,0:25:02.760
in at least 2015 and maybe maybe a

0:25:01.560,0:25:04.440
little before just depending on what

0:25:02.760,0:25:07.110
they were up to at the time but it was

0:25:04.440,0:25:08.910
started back in 2015 as a result of

0:25:07.110,0:25:11.370
Hillary Clinton’s problems and so they

0:25:08.910,0:25:13.320
were just looking for targets to you

0:25:11.370,0:25:15.810
know to go after which is precisely

0:25:13.320,0:25:18.750
again what Patrick Byrne says that he

0:25:15.810,0:25:20.760
was directed one okay fine Hillary

0:25:18.750,0:25:25.650
Clinton well let me come back to that

0:25:20.760,0:25:28.650
but Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio and Donald

0:25:25.650,0:25:31.320
Trump now at the time if you look back

0:25:28.650,0:25:32.940
who are the leading candidates for the

0:25:31.320,0:25:35.010
Republican nomination that had a good

0:25:32.940,0:25:38.340
chance of winning and I think they those

0:25:35.010,0:25:40.290
three sum it up and so they began to

0:25:38.340,0:25:42.600
drop by I’d drop out of you know drop

0:25:40.290,0:25:45.330
off it began to be clear that Trump was

0:25:42.600,0:25:47.400
indeed going to be the candidate and you

0:25:45.330,0:25:49.650
saw the focus start to tighten down to

0:25:47.400,0:25:53.160
only Donald Trump with the use of Latina

0:25:49.650,0:25:56.370
at the orders of the FBI through Patrick

0:25:53.160,0:25:59.690
Byrne so just all fits precisely now

0:25:56.370,0:26:03.270
there his comment on targeting of

0:25:59.690,0:26:06.360
Hillary Clinton the targeting by the way

0:26:03.270,0:26:08.700
is introducing Betina into the Hillary

0:26:06.360,0:26:10.980
crowd just like he could do because

0:26:08.700,0:26:12.950
being a donor wealthy guy he could he

0:26:10.980,0:26:14.850
would meet the people in these campaigns

0:26:12.950,0:26:16.320
that are running it because they always

0:26:14.850,0:26:17.880
always want to invite rich people

0:26:16.320,0:26:20.940
because you need money and they are the

0:26:17.880,0:26:22.860
ones that have the money so I

0:26:20.940,0:26:24.180
put that as cover for action I mean that

0:26:22.860,0:26:26.070
would be the term I would use for it

0:26:24.180,0:26:28.170
they would instruct him – yeah okay take

0:26:26.070,0:26:30.300
a look at Hillary – we want to see who’s

0:26:28.170,0:26:31.440
you know susceptible or whatever we’re

0:26:30.300,0:26:35.850
trying to figure this whole thing out

0:26:31.440,0:26:37.260
and that quickly got by the wayside –

0:26:35.850,0:26:38.940
because they were never interested in

0:26:37.260,0:26:41.790
Hillary Clinton they only said that in

0:26:38.940,0:26:43.620
my opinion – Patrick Byrne as as I said

0:26:41.790,0:26:45.420
like cover for action make it look like

0:26:43.620,0:26:47.640
it’s some sort of even-handed thing

0:26:45.420,0:26:49.620
we’re looking at all of these people and

0:26:47.640,0:26:51.150
then slowly focus down to what your real

0:26:49.620,0:26:53.010
target is which is what you’ve been

0:26:51.150,0:26:54.720
after all along and that of course was

0:26:53.010,0:26:57.090
going to be the Republican candidate

0:26:54.720,0:26:59.220
which was clearly Donald Trump and so

0:26:57.090,0:27:00.990
that makes perfect sense yeah but I

0:26:59.220,0:27:01.980
every think that’s I want to put one

0:27:00.990,0:27:03.900
question to you though

0:27:01.980,0:27:05.790
definitely it would be a good thing if

0:27:03.900,0:27:08.280
Flynn and other victims of this plot

0:27:05.790,0:27:10.800
were to walk but I think the most

0:27:08.280,0:27:14.160
significant thing in terms of the future

0:27:10.800,0:27:16.020
of American constitutional law is if the

0:27:14.160,0:27:18.690
people who actually committed these

0:27:16.020,0:27:20.580
actions that set these plots in motion

0:27:18.690,0:27:23.940
are brought to justice and there’s a

0:27:20.580,0:27:25.740
transparent political transparent legal

0:27:23.940,0:27:29.570
process against them what do you think

0:27:25.740,0:27:29.570
of the chances of that at anytime soon

0:27:30.020,0:27:35.670
you know that that is the million-dollar

0:27:32.790,0:27:37.440
question that is absolutely the central

0:27:35.670,0:27:39.900
question to this it’s something you and

0:27:37.440,0:27:45.270
I have have touched on a number of times

0:27:39.900,0:27:46.950
my opinion is and you know it will be

0:27:45.270,0:27:49.530
proven in time whether I’m right or

0:27:46.950,0:27:52.680
wrong on this but my opinion is that a

0:27:49.530,0:27:55.890
Jabbar has as the wherewithal the huevos

0:27:52.680,0:27:58.080
if you will to go after this and I think

0:27:55.890,0:27:59.760
by the appointment of John Durham who

0:27:58.080,0:28:02.280
also is the type of guy that’s not

0:27:59.760,0:28:05.130
afraid to move these things forward by

0:28:02.280,0:28:07.110
the expansion of the Durham

0:28:05.130,0:28:09.990
investigation which now if all of this

0:28:07.110,0:28:12.140
can be taken in I think we can mostly

0:28:09.990,0:28:16.530
take this at face value so let’s do for

0:28:12.140,0:28:18.990
for discussion here so Patrick Byrne

0:28:16.530,0:28:22.680
goes in lays all this out

0:28:18.990,0:28:25.350
DOJ takes a few weeks to investigate it

0:28:22.680,0:28:27.090
goes holy crap this makes sense put

0:28:25.350,0:28:29.760
together another list of questions go

0:28:27.090,0:28:31.460
back get a whole bunch more stuff hand

0:28:29.760,0:28:33.970
it all over to John Durham

0:28:31.460,0:28:36.429
they’re expecting this to be wrapped

0:28:33.970,0:28:39.039
if you recall and like they were talking

0:28:36.429,0:28:41.710
about June he starts in mid-may which

0:28:39.039,0:28:44.129
you know if it were just this case like

0:28:41.710,0:28:46.629
this in a nutshell that they could

0:28:44.129,0:28:47.830
figure the whole thing out that would

0:28:46.629,0:28:48.879
have been enough time for them to put

0:28:47.830,0:28:51.279
something together and come to a

0:28:48.879,0:28:53.470
conclusion recommend the prosecution of

0:28:51.279,0:28:55.299
somebody but instead what happened is

0:28:53.470,0:28:57.429
they rented more office space hired more

0:28:55.299,0:28:58.720
lawyers because every time they start

0:28:57.429,0:29:00.970
digging in they find more and more and

0:28:58.720,0:29:04.179
more and more and more so that means

0:29:00.970,0:29:05.860
they didn’t define it down to something

0:29:04.179,0:29:07.450
where they get one person in trouble and

0:29:05.860,0:29:10.000
then you know flush their hands of it

0:29:07.450,0:29:13.929
so they’ve expanded continue to look and

0:29:10.000,0:29:17.259
they’re going after this stuff so my

0:29:13.929,0:29:19.330
opinion is they’re going to indict a

0:29:17.259,0:29:21.340
bunch of these people and I think all of

0:29:19.330,0:29:23.590
the people that we’ve been talking about

0:29:21.340,0:29:25.240
I think Peter straw who’s filed a

0:29:23.590,0:29:27.460
countersuit interestingly enough for

0:29:25.240,0:29:31.450
wrongful dismissal

0:29:27.460,0:29:32.860
I think they they’re look I think in his

0:29:31.450,0:29:35.139
case he’s looking at it as a good

0:29:32.860,0:29:37.870
offense is the best defense but I think

0:29:35.139,0:29:40.299
I can’t see a downside for him I mean at

0:29:37.870,0:29:42.429
this point you know there’s simply I

0:29:40.299,0:29:45.490
can’t see a downside either he wins or

0:29:42.429,0:29:46.929
he stays where he is so there’s no loss

0:29:45.490,0:29:49.600
it’s in it it’s actually a

0:29:46.929,0:29:51.970
straightforward game theory if situation

0:29:49.600,0:29:54.429
even if he didn’t if he if he doesn’t

0:29:51.970,0:29:56.980
act or if he does take this chance it’s

0:29:54.429,0:30:02.559
just simply no law no increased loss if

0:29:56.980,0:30:04.600
it doesn’t work yes and it might create

0:30:02.559,0:30:06.190
some smoke and some doubt and so on

0:30:04.600,0:30:08.019
which if he ever goes to trial I mean

0:30:06.190,0:30:10.120
that might be value to him because any

0:30:08.019,0:30:11.980
doubt that you can create in a jury’s

0:30:10.120,0:30:14.919
mind if he were ever actually go to

0:30:11.980,0:30:18.220
trial would would it be all to the good

0:30:14.919,0:30:19.990
from his perspective so I think you’re

0:30:18.220,0:30:26.529
gonna see let’s hope he gets not let’s

0:30:19.990,0:30:28.899
hope he gets the OJ jury yeah we’ll see

0:30:26.529,0:30:30.820
how all of that plays out now I I

0:30:28.899,0:30:34.059
personally would be a little surprised

0:30:30.820,0:30:36.100
to see any of this go to trial except

0:30:34.059,0:30:39.100
for maybe just the very top echelon

0:30:36.100,0:30:40.659
switch again now my in my opinion all

0:30:39.100,0:30:43.419
this needs to be played out but I think

0:30:40.659,0:30:45.700
what they’ll do is you’ll see straw I

0:30:43.419,0:30:46.780
think the people underneath straw based

0:30:45.700,0:30:49.650
on what Patrick

0:30:46.780,0:30:52.420
and said will testify against him and

0:30:49.650,0:30:54.400
because they they all see this is just

0:30:52.420,0:30:55.960
all turning to crap so I think those

0:30:54.400,0:30:58.240
guys you know they don’t really have a

0:30:55.960,0:31:00.790
dog in the fight anyway so why should

0:30:58.240,0:31:03.880
they go down in flames for Peter struck

0:31:00.790,0:31:05.350
so I think they’ll all testify against

0:31:03.880,0:31:06.700
him and just say yeah this is what he

0:31:05.350,0:31:08.890
ordered me to do this is what he said

0:31:06.700,0:31:11.470
that’s what I did and you know that is a

0:31:08.890,0:31:14.410
good legal defense you know he was the

0:31:11.470,0:31:17.410
division chief I you know he talks to

0:31:14.410,0:31:20.140
the director you know whose ID is saying

0:31:17.410,0:31:21.760
no you know so that that I think would

0:31:20.140,0:31:23.530
be very reasonable and now I’m telling

0:31:21.760,0:31:25.030
you everything I know I I think that’s

0:31:23.530,0:31:26.350
precisely what will happen and I

0:31:25.030,0:31:29.010
wouldn’t be surprised if those guys have

0:31:26.350,0:31:31.480
already been talked to you

0:31:29.010,0:31:32.920
so as this place as this place forward I

0:31:31.480,0:31:36.190
think I think I think we’ll see these

0:31:32.920,0:31:39.610
guys go to jail I think in plea bargain

0:31:36.190,0:31:42.190
deals but I think it’s gonna stop short

0:31:39.610,0:31:45.730
of with the White House I don’t think

0:31:42.190,0:31:47.710
anybody wants to go after Obama and I I

0:31:45.730,0:31:50.400
think Obama probably this could not have

0:31:47.710,0:31:54.000
been done without its knowing but I

0:31:50.400,0:31:56.260
think that assumption or that belief

0:31:54.000,0:31:58.900
isn’t the same thing as trying to go

0:31:56.260,0:32:02.500
prosecute him or you know put him in

0:31:58.900,0:32:03.400
jail for things so and even if it was I

0:32:02.500,0:32:06.250
have said this before

0:32:03.400,0:32:07.750
even if he’s guilty and found guilty

0:32:06.250,0:32:10.450
which there would be a certain utility

0:32:07.750,0:32:11.530
in that I wouldn’t want to see a foreign

0:32:10.450,0:32:14.200
President of the United States actually

0:32:11.530,0:32:15.730
go to jail so I would hope Trump would

0:32:14.200,0:32:18.400
pardon him if that were the case but

0:32:15.730,0:32:21.070
anyway that’s wild speculation at this

0:32:18.400,0:32:23.710
point but it’s not wild speculation to

0:32:21.070,0:32:26.950
think that this will go as high as John

0:32:23.710,0:32:29.170
Brennan James clapper and Jim and James

0:32:26.950,0:32:32.140
coming I think that’s going to be the

0:32:29.170,0:32:34.410
center of this in association with the

0:32:32.140,0:32:36.340
Hillary Clinton campaign and people so

0:32:34.410,0:32:38.200
there’s already been more news coming

0:32:36.340,0:32:40.060
out about how these documents were

0:32:38.200,0:32:43.860
destroyed how the copies of the

0:32:40.060,0:32:48.850
classified information was made the

0:32:43.860,0:32:50.920
bargains that were made with DOJ and the

0:32:48.850,0:32:54.790
people in the Hillary Clinton campaign

0:32:50.920,0:32:55.990
who were or they were no they were in

0:32:54.790,0:32:57.100
her campaign but they were also the

0:32:55.990,0:32:58.690
people that work for her at State

0:32:57.100,0:33:00.380
Department which is where these

0:32:58.690,0:33:05.360
documents the origin of these

0:33:00.380,0:33:08.210
documents was so there’s a big bunch of

0:33:05.360,0:33:11.780
documents that just came out made public

0:33:08.210,0:33:14.120
that was from FOIA requests made so the

0:33:11.780,0:33:16.910
this is all coming together all the

0:33:14.120,0:33:18.980
pieces fit it all looks bad now one

0:33:16.910,0:33:20.480
final point I wanted to make on all this

0:33:18.980,0:33:22.220
then we’ll just kind of sum it up and

0:33:20.480,0:33:25.880
see if there’s anything else want to

0:33:22.220,0:33:28.040
talk about at this but the defense was

0:33:25.880,0:33:29.930
to go after all of this stuff what was

0:33:28.040,0:33:32.570
kind of explained to Patrick Byrne the

0:33:29.930,0:33:35.300
the logic that’s on paper as to why this

0:33:32.570,0:33:36.290
was done and again let me repeat all of

0:33:35.300,0:33:38.180
this was done with the understanding

0:33:36.290,0:33:40.460
Hillary Clinton was gonna be President

0:33:38.180,0:33:42.170
so that’s why there’s so much paper

0:33:40.460,0:33:43.640
trail in all of this that’s because the

0:33:42.170,0:33:44.660
legal system requires it you gotta have

0:33:43.640,0:33:46.160
a good paper trail over the whole

0:33:44.660,0:33:47.930
investigation so you can go after these

0:33:46.160,0:33:50.230
people and get them in legal trouble

0:33:47.930,0:33:52.790
legal legal jeopardy if not in jail

0:33:50.230,0:33:55.160
so that’s biting them in the rear end

0:33:52.790,0:33:57.980
now because all of these paper trails

0:33:55.160,0:34:00.500
exist as to what they were doing so now

0:33:57.980,0:34:02.570
on paper the way they describe this is a

0:34:00.500,0:34:05.180
Russian national we’re talking about

0:34:02.570,0:34:08.149
like boo Tina and what the excuse was as

0:34:05.180,0:34:09.980
to why they went after her why this then

0:34:08.149,0:34:11.690
becomes a CI threat and so they’re

0:34:09.980,0:34:14.570
saying that she’s this Russian national

0:34:11.690,0:34:16.669
who’s promoting Russian interests that

0:34:14.570,0:34:19.429
are not necessarily in alignment with US

0:34:16.669,0:34:21.830
national interests and so therefore she

0:34:19.429,0:34:24.770
is an agent of a foreign power her

0:34:21.830,0:34:29.560
status then as an agent of a foreign

0:34:24.770,0:34:35.360
power means that the US intelligence

0:34:29.560,0:34:37.250
community is fully able to surveil her

0:34:35.360,0:34:41.139
do whatever they want to do to go after

0:34:37.250,0:34:44.480
her to see what she’s doing now that

0:34:41.139,0:34:46.310
basically is you know it’s lawyers speak

0:34:44.480,0:34:48.110
it’s do a lot of dancing and moving

0:34:46.310,0:34:50.960
around it’s not a straightforward thing

0:34:48.110,0:34:52.639
it’s not I would say it’s actually just

0:34:50.960,0:34:57.170
pretty much all PS the way this is

0:34:52.639,0:34:59.710
because number of things as a foreign

0:34:57.170,0:35:01.850
agent as an agent of a foreign power

0:34:59.710,0:35:03.410
butene a network taraji government

0:35:01.850,0:35:04.130
nobody ever claims she worked for the

0:35:03.410,0:35:05.840
Russian government

0:35:04.130,0:35:08.090
she always claimed that she worked for

0:35:05.840,0:35:09.980
rich Russians the oligarchs and was

0:35:08.090,0:35:13.380
looking for ways to establish contacts

0:35:09.980,0:35:15.269
with essentially US oligarchs for

0:35:13.380,0:35:17.519
you know for some sort of cooperation in

0:35:15.269,0:35:20.789
the business realm basically just a

0:35:17.519,0:35:21.269
headhunter the way any somebody works

0:35:20.789,0:35:24.839
called

0:35:21.269,0:35:26.609
looking for excellent hire ease congrat

0:35:24.839,0:35:26.969
construction contractors whatever have

0:35:26.609,0:35:28.859
you

0:35:26.969,0:35:30.749
exactly and that’s I mean that’s

0:35:28.859,0:35:32.489
absolutely normal big businesses reach

0:35:30.749,0:35:34.170
out to each other all over the world and

0:35:32.489,0:35:35.789
there are people that do that and I

0:35:34.170,0:35:37.859
think headhunter is a very apt

0:35:35.789,0:35:39.749
description that does not make that

0:35:37.859,0:35:44.069
person the agent of a foreign power

0:35:39.749,0:35:47.009
because you know we nobody’s claiming

0:35:44.069,0:35:48.989
that she worked for Russian SVR the

0:35:47.009,0:35:50.849
intelligence arm of the Russian

0:35:48.989,0:35:52.859
government nobody nobody claims that

0:35:50.849,0:35:56.390
that’s well it took place and that she

0:35:52.859,0:35:59.670
you know was trying to reach out to

0:35:56.390,0:36:02.130
trump campaign employees to introduce

0:35:59.670,0:36:04.799
them to a Russian intelligence SVR

0:36:02.130,0:36:07.829
officer so he can recruit them to report

0:36:04.799,0:36:10.140
on later the the Trump administration

0:36:07.829,0:36:12.059
within the government so see nobody says

0:36:10.140,0:36:14.130
any of that happen that would be an

0:36:12.059,0:36:16.259
agent of a foreign power that would be

0:36:14.130,0:36:19.140
somebody who’s working for a foreign

0:36:16.259,0:36:21.299
power so you know all of this the way

0:36:19.140,0:36:22.890
it’s all manipulated and done I mean and

0:36:21.299,0:36:24.089
that that phrase that I kind of

0:36:22.890,0:36:26.339
mentioned to you that mean that’s a

0:36:24.089,0:36:28.140
typical standard thing that’s used if

0:36:26.339,0:36:29.759
you are indeed looking at somebody

0:36:28.140,0:36:32.249
that’s an agent of a foreign power and

0:36:29.759,0:36:34.079
what then that then allows you to use

0:36:32.249,0:36:35.789
the resources of the US government to

0:36:34.079,0:36:38.339
take a look at them see what they’re up

0:36:35.789,0:36:40.519
to see if if they are indeed somebody

0:36:38.339,0:36:42.869
who’s working for Russian intelligence

0:36:40.519,0:36:44.940
but that doesn’t appear at all to be the

0:36:42.869,0:36:46.680
case for this girl now she’s gotten in a

0:36:44.940,0:36:49.319
lot of trouble on this stuff but again

0:36:46.680,0:36:52.529
it looks like a lot of it was things

0:36:49.319,0:36:56.599
that she was directed to do by the FBI

0:36:52.529,0:36:59.459
via Patrick Byrne again entrapment so

0:36:56.599,0:37:01.829
it’s just the the whole thing like I

0:36:59.459,0:37:03.779
said that because they were using

0:37:01.829,0:37:05.609
resources to look at her you have to

0:37:03.779,0:37:07.949
have a case to open a case you have to

0:37:05.609,0:37:11.579
have a reason to open a case for FBI

0:37:07.949,0:37:12.779
CIA’s parallel it’s similar but that’s

0:37:11.579,0:37:14.249
just how it works in all of law

0:37:12.779,0:37:16.829
enforcement so you have to have a reason

0:37:14.249,0:37:18.299
so I come up with this goofball reason

0:37:16.829,0:37:20.699
that it really doesn’t stand up to a lot

0:37:18.299,0:37:24.809
of scrutiny but it stamps the paper and

0:37:20.699,0:37:25.770
so again all of this was done under the

0:37:24.809,0:37:27.660
belief

0:37:25.770,0:37:30.960
that the standard was going to be very

0:37:27.660,0:37:32.280
loose in looking at them because Hillary

0:37:30.960,0:37:34.470
Clinton was gonna be president and it

0:37:32.280,0:37:35.880
never really gets scrutinized and I

0:37:34.470,0:37:38.190
think that’s the problem and I think

0:37:35.880,0:37:41.040
we’ve seen that come out of the mouth of

0:37:38.190,0:37:43.530
Attorney General bar he has said you

0:37:41.040,0:37:46.050
know I went to the FBI asking questions

0:37:43.530,0:37:48.060
and they didn’t have answers for me well

0:37:46.050,0:37:49.860
what’s that mean and okay then I’m gonna

0:37:48.060,0:37:51.750
keep turning the pages until I find the

0:37:49.860,0:37:53.520
answers I want in here and he comes

0:37:51.750,0:37:55.770
across this Patrick bar and it looks at

0:37:53.520,0:37:57.390
it goes you know this is all bad news

0:37:55.770,0:38:00.750
guys we’re gonna we’re gonna dig into

0:37:57.390,0:38:02.250
this and he has been so again my that’s

0:38:00.750,0:38:05.010
my prediction I think you’re gonna start

0:38:02.250,0:38:07.110
to see everyone below Peter straw is

0:38:05.010,0:38:09.330
gonna turn on him immediately because he

0:38:07.110,0:38:11.130
looks like her again personal opinion

0:38:09.330,0:38:11.460
all of that I don’t know I’ve never met

0:38:11.130,0:38:14.040
the man

0:38:11.460,0:38:16.830
and and fully intent never to meet him

0:38:14.040,0:38:18.869
but he looks like a dainty hole so I

0:38:16.830,0:38:20.550
mean just the way he talks and stuff I

0:38:18.869,0:38:22.950
don’t think he’s well-liked I don’t

0:38:20.550,0:38:25.020
think he’s well-respected certainly the

0:38:22.950,0:38:26.850
way he handled his cases or like I said

0:38:25.020,0:38:28.110
juvenile underneath him there’d be

0:38:26.850,0:38:30.150
experienced people that would have taken

0:38:28.110,0:38:33.390
look at this guy and go what a freakin

0:38:30.150,0:38:36.450
douche you know I I think everybody will

0:38:33.390,0:38:39.000
turn on him and heartbeat and so again I

0:38:36.450,0:38:40.380
mean if this certainly seems to have a

0:38:39.000,0:38:43.380
little of the old narcissistic

0:38:40.380,0:38:45.420
personality disorder yes yes based on a

0:38:43.380,0:38:48.900
few exchanges I saw between him and Lisa

0:38:45.420,0:38:51.359
page is that her name yes there was

0:38:48.900,0:38:56.030
there was a bit of a narcissist there no

0:38:51.359,0:38:58.590
question and like I said I I I would be

0:38:56.030,0:39:00.840
stunned to learn that he was this loved

0:38:58.590,0:39:02.790
and respected character within the FBI

0:39:00.840,0:39:04.140
so like I said I think they’ll all turn

0:39:02.790,0:39:06.240
so I think you just take a look at Peter

0:39:04.140,0:39:09.540
Straub and below and say they’re all

0:39:06.240,0:39:11.010
gonna testify to this Peter Straub meets

0:39:09.540,0:39:14.160
the threshold of he would be an actual

0:39:11.010,0:39:16.560
target and above up to clapper Comey

0:39:14.160,0:39:19.200
and Brennan so I think that’s the block

0:39:16.560,0:39:20.670
of people we’re gonna see be prosecuted

0:39:19.200,0:39:22.800
out of all of this and I think that

0:39:20.670,0:39:26.130
encompasses it I think it will stop

0:39:22.800,0:39:27.780
there I don’t think I don’t know but I

0:39:26.130,0:39:29.930
don’t think any of them would go yeah

0:39:27.780,0:39:32.280
okay I’ll give you I’ll give you a Bhama

0:39:29.930,0:39:34.410
to give me a break and I don’t think

0:39:32.280,0:39:36.630
they would something again we’ve talked

0:39:34.410,0:39:37.900
about but immediately on the hill is the

0:39:36.630,0:39:39.850
day

0:39:37.900,0:39:43.440
the molar investigation was ended and

0:39:39.850,0:39:46.930
the report turned down and all age bar

0:39:43.440,0:39:50.680
reinstituted the federal for federal

0:39:46.930,0:39:52.630
offenses the death penalty again I don’t

0:39:50.680,0:39:54.550
I’m not a fun guy I don’t have a

0:39:52.630,0:39:56.860
fondness for coincidence

0:39:54.550,0:39:58.990
so I look at this as causal not

0:39:56.860,0:40:00.520
coincidence and I think he took a look

0:39:58.990,0:40:02.290
at everything that was going on wanted

0:40:00.520,0:40:04.240
the death penalty back on the table I

0:40:02.290,0:40:06.880
think could go to a guy like Peter

0:40:04.240,0:40:08.350
Straub again I don’t my reading of Peter

0:40:06.880,0:40:10.600
struck again never met him and all that

0:40:08.350,0:40:13.780
but I see the same things you see that

0:40:10.600,0:40:16.030
you know he really looks like a you know

0:40:13.780,0:40:19.060
like I say can I would do so forgive me

0:40:16.030,0:40:21.010
for my bad language but I a guy like

0:40:19.060,0:40:22.750
that is you know if you if you sit in

0:40:21.010,0:40:24.280
front of them say look we got a ton of

0:40:22.750,0:40:26.380
evidence against you you’re in deep

0:40:24.280,0:40:27.970
trouble my friend and by the way death

0:40:26.380,0:40:29.230
penalty is on the table in front of you

0:40:27.970,0:40:32.380
because this all looks like trees and

0:40:29.230,0:40:34.900
we’re going after you for treason so you

0:40:32.380,0:40:37.000
want a deal or you want to go to trial

0:40:34.900,0:40:37.450
and risk death penalty and a guy like

0:40:37.000,0:40:39.640
that

0:40:37.450,0:40:42.670
you know I I don’t think he could last

0:40:39.640,0:40:43.960
you know 30 seconds without breaking

0:40:42.670,0:40:46.180
down in tears and telling him everything

0:40:43.960,0:40:47.830
he knows so I think you know he’ll end

0:40:46.180,0:40:49.720
up in jail out of the deal but he’ll get

0:40:47.830,0:40:51.820
his twenty or thirty years whatever it

0:40:49.720,0:40:55.060
would be in order that he testify

0:40:51.820,0:40:56.590
against the next guys off which I think

0:40:55.060,0:40:58.060
on all of his dealings which is

0:40:56.590,0:40:59.380
completely logical that he would have

0:40:58.060,0:41:02.500
dealt directly with James Comey

0:40:59.380,0:41:04.420
and we know that James Comey and clapper

0:41:02.500,0:41:05.890
and Brennan were all good buds and we’re

0:41:04.420,0:41:07.150
all and apparently we’re all talking

0:41:05.890,0:41:10.600
about this there’s been a lot of

0:41:07.150,0:41:12.550
evidence to that effect that has come

0:41:10.600,0:41:15.130
out also from FOIA requests which is the

0:41:12.550,0:41:17.500
source of that email that we saw where

0:41:15.130,0:41:20.230
where Brennan is telling clap or I

0:41:17.500,0:41:22.570
forget amico me that the the steel

0:41:20.230,0:41:24.160
dossier has to be included as a document

0:41:22.570,0:41:26.800
because it’s the crown document for this

0:41:24.160,0:41:29.050
whole thing so again just just to

0:41:26.800,0:41:31.090
summarize it all of this fits together

0:41:29.050,0:41:34.060
beautifully if you look at it from the

0:41:31.090,0:41:35.830
scenario that I’ve been arguing for for

0:41:34.060,0:41:38.500
quite a little while now that this began

0:41:35.830,0:41:41.380
with the leaked documents from Hillary

0:41:38.500,0:41:43.060
Clinton classified documents that she

0:41:41.380,0:41:46.660
needed to try and fix this problem

0:41:43.060,0:41:48.120
somehow turned to these guys were all

0:41:46.660,0:41:50.700
loyal Democratic

0:41:48.120,0:41:52.980
tenants and this was the solution they

0:41:50.700,0:41:55.110
came up with and these guys not really

0:41:52.980,0:41:57.540
truly they’re being loyal party

0:41:55.110,0:42:00.390
apparatus but not really being

0:41:57.540,0:42:02.280
professionals truly in the sense that I

0:42:00.390,0:42:03.840
mean it in the intelligence world in

0:42:02.280,0:42:05.550
particular maybe a little more in the

0:42:03.840,0:42:06.900
law enforcement but but even then

0:42:05.550,0:42:09.000
there’s a lot of questions about their

0:42:06.900,0:42:10.800
judgment and things they did but they

0:42:09.000,0:42:12.360
were basically amateurs in this and it

0:42:10.800,0:42:15.180
just shows and that’s part of why this

0:42:12.360,0:42:18.330
whole thing’s just turn into craap it’s

0:42:15.180,0:42:20.100
because you know you had the C team in

0:42:18.330,0:42:22.260
there making all the major decisions and

0:42:20.100,0:42:24.030
no no adult in the room which is

0:42:22.260,0:42:25.530
interesting because that’s that’s what

0:42:24.030,0:42:27.300
they always claim is the problem with

0:42:25.530,0:42:28.950
Donald Trump and yet you know they’re

0:42:27.300,0:42:31.980
the ones guilty of it all the time this

0:42:28.950,0:42:34.290
lack of judgment and how to move forward

0:42:31.980,0:42:37.050
in the desperation and stuff they should

0:42:34.290,0:42:40.140
have you know any on the Republican side

0:42:37.050,0:42:42.740
if you looked at all the the nonsense

0:42:40.140,0:42:44.820
and poor judgment and disastrous

0:42:42.740,0:42:46.620
decisions that were made by Hillary

0:42:44.820,0:42:48.180
Clinton the Republican Party would have

0:42:46.620,0:42:50.220
thrown her under the boss and and by the

0:42:48.180,0:42:51.810
way I’m I’m no big proponent of the

0:42:50.220,0:42:53.430
Republican Party particularly and more

0:42:51.810,0:42:55.470
conservative like conservative

0:42:53.430,0:42:57.570
Christians sort of guy than I than a

0:42:55.470,0:42:58.740
Republican party sort of guy which I’m

0:42:57.570,0:43:01.260
sure this will get me in trouble later

0:42:58.740,0:43:02.670
but it’s it’s a truth you know those but

0:43:01.260,0:43:04.230
even the Republican Party would have

0:43:02.670,0:43:06.240
thrown Hillary Clinton under the bus

0:43:04.230,0:43:08.130
you know twenty years ago because of all

0:43:06.240,0:43:11.760
the fiasco she’s involved with and

0:43:08.130,0:43:14.490
questionable judgment and self-serving

0:43:11.760,0:43:17.970
nature of this lady the stuff that she

0:43:14.490,0:43:20.130
and her husband had done I’m surprised

0:43:17.970,0:43:21.630
she survived this long but you know she

0:43:20.130,0:43:24.120
no husband both lawyers knew the system

0:43:21.630,0:43:26.310
were well connected and and and it leads

0:43:24.120,0:43:31.260
us to where we are today which if this

0:43:26.310,0:43:32.490
does not get prosecuted by AG bar you

0:43:31.260,0:43:36.450
know I just don’t know what will happen

0:43:32.490,0:43:38.670
I it would be a very dangerous thing to

0:43:36.450,0:43:40.710
see move forward if AG bars not up to

0:43:38.670,0:43:42.990
the task that appears to be in front of

0:43:40.710,0:43:45.390
him I believe he is I personally have

0:43:42.990,0:43:48.570
faith in him just I don’t know him

0:43:45.390,0:43:50.400
personally but I think it’s moving

0:43:48.570,0:43:54.920
forward that way so I have faith in

0:43:50.400,0:43:54.920
until I see something go you know south

0:44:01.170,0:44:03.230
you

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