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Brad Johnson, President, and retired CIA Senior Officer and Chief of Staff. Insight into current events from an intelligence angle.

Brad Johnson on why impeachment hearings are really taking place

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brad johnson today is the third and you
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tell me this is the final day of the
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impeachment hearings i guess that’s good
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news i mean it’s gonna be rough on the
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National Enquirer I suppose please like
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give us some sanity on this yeah today’s
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is the last day that has been scheduled
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the Republicans did make a request to
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have a minority hearing day where they
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could schedule the witnesses that the
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Adam Schiff as head of the Democrat
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majority on the committee has refused to
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allow them to bring in so it’s
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conceivable there would be another day
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but I would say you know 99.9% Adam
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Schiff would never allow such a thing
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because it’s to too many other witnesses
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will come out to contradict what what
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little they have had to present during
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the during the three days of hearings
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that we’ve just are now completing today
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I would say a real interest out of all
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of these things would be Adam shifts
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opening statement and if you kind of go
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back and look at his opening statement
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which kind of droned on for up I don’t
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know good ten minutes almost I’d seem
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like to me maybe five minutes but you
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know one of the things he said over and
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over and over and over is conspiracy
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theory conspiracy theory and what he was
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referring to was Ukraine having been
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involved in meddling in US politics
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essentially targeting the Republican
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Party and targeting the then candidate
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president Trump and newly elected
01:26
president Trump now but the number of
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things about all of this that are
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starting to come out that really look
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pretty bad out of all of this is there’s
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a lot of evidence to support that now
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the FBI has also just opened an
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investigation against this Eric
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charmella who is the whistleblower that
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the only people that are refusing to say
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his name it’s come out on almost
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everywhere except mainstream media the
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liberal mainstream media and Congress
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and other than that it really hasn’t
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been you know or I should say only
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within those limits has not been
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mentioned and other than that every
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place else is the name is widely out
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there and referred to now the FBI is
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open an investigation of him well
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because they know he’s the whistleblower
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so I mean it’s kind of the cat is out of
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the bag as this goes forward and the
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investigation continues it is going to
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eventually force the hand of the
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mainstream media the liberal mainstream
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media to start to talk about him in the
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case and there’s only so much they can
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do to cover up for this for so long but
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why is all of that happening and again I
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always say you know take a step back and
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just look how does rather than getting
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caught up in too many of the details how
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why and how would all of this be going
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forward the way it is and this thing
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about the conspiracy theory that Adam
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Schiff was pushing so hard I I didn’t
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you know I should have counted if I
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didn’t know he was going to say it over
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and over during that statement but he
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must have said conspiracy fair Theory 15
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or 20 times so you know this is this was
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the goal for him today was to damage
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that aspect of what’s going on and so
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you know I think we can kind of fairly
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conclude that and in the face of a
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number of bits of evidence that have
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come up that a lot of this did indeed
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take place and that there was some
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coordination with the former government
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in Ukraine now that former government
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was left-leaning
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in agreement with you know the same
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philosophical perspective as what we saw
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under the previous Obama administration
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and all of these the people that are
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here today being active and testifying
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and so on all of these people are
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left-leaning
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State Department is probably the most
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left-leaning agency of the United States
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in the federal government and have long
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been known for that since basically
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after World War Two they became this
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left-leaning bureaucracy and have stayed
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that way ever since and become stronger
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and stronger in that now all of those
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things being true and mr. chair amela
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was coordinating with Adam Schiff and
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two of the people on Adams shift staff
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were also previously worked with
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chairman so they’re close friends and
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have known each other for years and so
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there there was very easy for this
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coordination to take place so if all of
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this is true what is which has being
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investigated but if all of this is true
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then this seems to be a fairly clear act
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of sedition and conspiracy to commit
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which is in fact a specific law under
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the statutes and it is a felony and in
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this particular case if Adam Schiff was
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involved in all of this stuff it would
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appear that he’s taking some risk and
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out on a limb for conspiracy to commit
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sedition so I would say and that’s a
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20-year penalty up to 20-year penalty in
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federal law felony so you know this this
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is starting to get a little odd and
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strange and as these investigations are
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coming out I think these guys have taken
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a risk on this and are really with for
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no reason whatsoever nothing apparent
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coordinating all of this in advance
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including with Ukraine went with a
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friendly government in Ukraine are are
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have been targeting president Trump all
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along which attempting to unseat a
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legally elected president of the United
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States for political reasons does come
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awfully close to a definition of
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sedition I was reading through those
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definitions this morning earlier just
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taking a look so I I think that this is
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taking a very very ugly turn and I I
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don’t like what I see and certainly if
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they’re guilty of it then they need to
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be punished to the full extent of the
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law and there seems to be a lot of
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people there and and just now human
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nature kind of with my background it’s
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one of the elements of this I look at
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people who’ve been in power and and and
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seek power or it tends to go to their
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head and there’s an old saying absolute
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power corrupts absolutely and I’m afraid
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that this is what what we’ve seen happen
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since the Democratic Party lost power
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their desperation to gain it back has
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led them down a path that looks very
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dangerous and certainly everything we’re
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seeing out of the FISA warrant the steel
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dossier being used to justify this which
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was a politically driven document all of
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these things make them look very very
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very guilty certainly extraordinarily
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suspicious circumstances at the very
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least so all this needs to be uncovered
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I just I I hope and pray that that US
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Attorney General bar is going to be able
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to track all this down and the FBI will
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indeed do an honest investigation of
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Aric charmella who was the whistleblower
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and his background having been you know
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we’ve talked about it before but having
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come out of the CIA being kind of picked
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off the street as a demonstrator made an
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analyst all by John Brennan hand-picked
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to go on this task force that fusion
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task force that John Brennan put
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together to work this Russian case which
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of course we all know was based on the
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political documents no facts and then
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used to create a FISA document and now
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this guy reappears well why would he be
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willing to take such risk and I think
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it’s because he knew he was already
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facing roots so I think charmella is a
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real weakness in this this thing that
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the Democrats are trying to do so if if
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the FBI does investigate does uncover
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start to look at his background and put
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all of this together I think this might
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be a dagger at the heart of the
07:36
Democrats I think this is going to
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backfire them in a way that will cause
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people to go to jail and some of these
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things that they’re doing and it looks
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like in coordinating with some of the
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left-leaning Brits and Italians and
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Russians and in Ukraine I mean that’s an
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international conspiracy if if all of
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that is true that does indeed approach
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the what would be defined as treason and
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if they’re guilty of treason again this
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is something we’ve talked about before
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but there is a death penalty for treason
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and as I’ve said all along if it does
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indeed pan out that way this is
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something that needs to be implemented
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if we’ve had people get this drunk with
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you know their thirst for power that has
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to be nipped in the bud that has to be
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stopped we cannot allow that sort of
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behavior to go to go forward here in the
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United States of America and the further
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and further we dig into this the worse
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and worse it looks so if I could jump in
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a second this is something I don’t
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understand I think there’s four first
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tier Democrats that have children that
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were making giant but undeserved
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salaries at on the board of Ukrainian
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energy companies so I don’t understand
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why the Democrats initiated a procedure
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in which it was likely that this would
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be exposed
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what they were talking about the case
08:55
for Trump wrongdoings connected to the
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Ukraine was a fiction yet and below the
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surface of that fiction lies
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extraordinary acts of of corruption and
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every conceivable sense of the term I
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just don’t get why they would take that
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risk unless they figured that the
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cost-benefit of that risk was so great
09:15
because they’re already their
09:16
pre-existing crimes if they go
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discovered I mean what’s that
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what is the logic here I think that’s
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precisely it it’s the previously
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existing crimes that took place and if
09:30
again this is an area you know I’ve
09:32
spent some time discussing but if you
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look at just what we know kind of the
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facts what they fit and I like to refer
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to Occam’s razor you know taking the
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simplest explanation that fits all the
09:43
facts and what that is right now is that
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Hillary Clinton had that breach of all
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this classified information I think
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indeed you know Hillary I think it’s
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very unsophisticated about you know
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email and Internet and security and all
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those things I don’t think she cares
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about any of those things so I think it
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is in fact true what she has said about
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these classified documents that she just
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had her staff cut him and sent him so
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she could get him on her blackberry so
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that she could just read all the
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classified documents all the time
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whenever she wanted and there’s
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thousands of pictures that are out there
10:20
clicking around on that old Blackberry
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thing and getting her email that way and
10:25
those email were all these classified
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documents so and as we’ve talked about
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in great detail I mean we’re talking
10:30
about tens of thousands of classified
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documents so it was something that was
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how she did business when all of that
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escaped and was taken by others I mean
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certainly it appears the Chinese and
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Russians both have access to this and it
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went out everywhere and as I’ve talked
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about you know what damage was done by
10:47
all that if you follow well that took
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place that way so I think that is
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correct that that underlying problem
10:54
stems from those leaked classified
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documents that came out of the Hillary
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Clinton State Department years and you
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remember from from what the FBI
11:04
reporting has been on this we’re talking
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about tens of
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thousands of documents and the damage
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that was done by that has never really
11:11
been investigated so he can’t speak
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authoritative ly about what was done so
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we can only talk about the potential so
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the potential of maybe 60 or 70 thousand
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classified documents being out there and
11:23
we know for a fact based on the James
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Comey July of 2016 speech that there
11:30
were CIA documents included in that so a
11:32
lot of people were getting killed right
11:34
right after that period as as if you
11:37
know those what what is possible that
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those documents then were hacked out of
11:42
this computer that was at Hillary
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Clinton’s in her closet and was
11:47
unprotected against that level of attack
11:49
against state level attack and all of
11:51
those were captured so I mean it’s not
11:53
reasonable to assume that your home
11:55
computer cannot be hacked by China and
11:58
Russia when they’ve got that that level
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of sophistication to do these attacks so
12:03
we can just naturally assume all of
12:05
those things got out and then a lot of
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these people coincidentally just end up
12:09
dead so a lot of operations were
12:12
discovered some excuses got leaked out
12:14
of the CIA which that by itself I find
12:16
very odd and what they were saying is oh
12:19
it was a communications program that we
12:21
used in the Middle East where there’s
12:23
less sophistication being used against
12:26
us and then we just moved it over here
12:28
and we’re using it in these Chinese
12:29
operations and the Chinese figured it
12:31
out that whole thing is stupid and that
12:33
makes no sense whatsoever if it’s true a
12:35
lot of people should have been fired for
12:37
that because that was stupid nobody
12:38
would have ever made decisions like that
12:40
in the old days so I mean there’s
12:42
they’re just everything that can be
12:43
wrong with that story is wrong so it
12:45
makes no sense so you if that is in case
12:49
the case and if those things are only
12:51
doubt and if that got a lot of people
12:53
killed then which is what it looks like
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then Hillary Clinton had a very serious
12:59
problem
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very serious criminal problem and I
13:03
think out of that we saw the steel
13:05
dossier she turned to John Brennan at
13:07
the CIA to help her work her way back
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out of this she turned you know she’s
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gotten herself in an intelligence
13:12
problem and turned to the intelligence
13:14
people to get out of it and you see this
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coordination taking place behind the
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scenes with
13:19
the steel dossier the FBI the Italians
13:22
the Brits in Ukraine and all of these
13:25
things going on in the background so
13:28
these people that got all involved in
13:30
that they all thought everybody thought
13:33
that Hillary Clinton was going to be the
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next president in United States and they
13:37
were dedicated loyalists to that same
13:39
leftist philosophy that Hillary Clinton
13:41
was so they would not have looked at
13:43
this with any moral objections they
13:45
would have looked at it as a you know as
13:47
a positive from their moral perspective
13:49
on the extreme left which is kind of a
13:52
warped sense of morality just to begin
13:54
with but that would have been their
13:55
perspective so they would have looked at
13:57
this as a great thing we’ve got a you
13:59
know helped Hillary get out of this
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problem we’ll cover up what’s done is
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done
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she did it for expediency not trying to
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make problems so you know we’re gonna
14:06
jump in and we’re gonna get those nasty
14:08
Republicans anyway we’ve all seen over
14:10
and over and over that the Democratic
14:12
Party talks about the Republican Party
14:14
being a greater threat than in terrorism
14:16
if that is their view there’s been
14:18
dozens of Democrats say precisely that
14:21
so from that context from that kind of
14:24
twisted worldview this all makes sense
14:27
so they would have gone forward with
14:28
doing that and when Hillary Clinton lost
14:30
you know you know oMG you know that that
14:33
means a world of hurt is coming forward
14:36
because of these details come out
14:38
they’re all going to jail I mean
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seriously I mean there’s treason and
14:43
Sedition and all sorts of problems in
14:45
that and what seems to be bubbling to
14:47
the surface now and and we’ve certainly
14:48
seen comments from US Attorney General
14:51
Barr that fit that scenario that he’s
14:54
starting to dig in and look at all this
14:56
stuff and it’s going holy cow I mean
14:58
this is out of control so III think
15:01
that’s what really fits that this was an
15:03
underlying problem caused by Hillary
15:06
Clinton at State Department from there
15:08
she tried to fix it by targeting whoever
15:09
the Republican was going to be because
15:11
remember the steel dossier began before
15:14
Trump won the nomination to run for
15:17
president then after he won the
15:19
nomination they were able to focus in
15:21
and target him prior to the election
15:24
still thinking Hillary Clinton was going
15:26
to win Hillary loses Trump becomes
15:28
president and then it became desperate
15:30
and what we have seen is just desperate
15:32
act
15:33
desperate act after desperate act the
15:35
molar report we’ve seen former director
15:38
CIA director John Brennan go on MSNBC
15:40
and NPR all of these and it’s just vegan
15:43
hatred for Trump that hatred doesn’t
15:46
come from nothing and I think what it
15:48
comes from is fear I think that’s
15:51
actually what’s going on I think he’s
15:53
afraid John Brennan’s afraid of all of
15:55
this coming to the to light so I I see
15:58
that’s what’s unfolding and now they’ve
16:00
placed their hopes and Adam Schiff who
16:03
is just talking this is a conspiracy
16:05
theory and this is nonsense
16:07
and they’re able to find bits and pieces
16:08
of things that they can string together
16:10
that makes it look like at least you
16:13
know on an uninformed basis it makes it
16:16
look like Trump is guilty of something
16:18
but the transcript is out there
16:20
everybody that’s testified you know they
16:22
come up with little bits of the things
16:23
like oh yeah there was quid pro quo but
16:25
it wasn’t the quid pro quo that that
16:28
Adam Schiff is saying it is so they just
16:30
stringed again together things that
16:32
don’t necessarily make sense as as a
16:35
whole they just though they’re these
16:37
independent little facts think you say
16:39
AHA there’s quid pro quo even though it
16:40
had nothing to do with all the stuff
16:42
we’re saying so I think that’s what
16:44
we’re seeing but again an act of
16:46
desperation and coverup I think
16:48
essentially what we’re seeing is an
16:50
attempt to cover the real underlying
16:53
problems of all this and I think this is
16:56
this really truly is is a dagger at the
16:58
heart of the Democratic Party they all
17:00
most of them in positions of authority
17:02
see it and are desperate and I think
17:05
that’s what we’re seeing play out
17:06
now the other shoot has not dropped now
17:08
a lot of people are desperate waiting
17:11
for this you know for pushback on all of
17:14
this but I’ve said this before the
17:16
numbers are not going against Trump on
17:18
this the numbers are going for Trump and
17:21
he hasn’t even answered really on these
17:22
things yet so I think once the other
17:26
side begins firing salvos if I can talk
17:29
about it that way
17:31
it’s just unending salvos from the
17:33
Democrats and I think they’re winding
17:34
down because they’re running out of
17:35
stuff and Trump hasn’t really even begun
17:39
I mean if you want the other side of the
17:41
story
17:41
nobody’s really pushing it out there yet
17:43
it’s all still being investigated and
17:45
coming although
17:46
the IG report apparently is in the very
17:48
final stages and they’re reviewing it
17:50
with the people mentioned in the IG
17:51
report who have the right to then
17:53
respond in writing as you know to their
17:55
thoughts as to what was said about them
17:56
so that’s that’s the very final stage
17:59
before a report becomes public so I
18:01
think that’s going to be the first salvo
18:03
again using that same metaphor that
18:05
we’ll we’ll see coming out of the Trump
18:07
side of this equation and I think once
18:10
that happens I think there’s going to be
18:12
indictments recommended out of the IG
18:15
report which is the maximum you can hope
18:17
for out of that and then on the heels of
18:19
that will see that John the US Attorney
18:20
John Durham report come out of this and
18:24
his investigation and whatever
18:25
indictments come out of that the Atlanta
18:28
Commission the FBI is also now
18:30
investigating this Eric charmella so you
18:32
start you know just taking all this as a
18:34
whole and it’s spurious what they’re
18:39
trying to do to Donald Trump it’s just
18:42
kind of ridiculous and yet under this
18:45
what’s coming out are real things with
18:48
very serious felony penalties involved
18:50
with some of these things so I think
18:53
this whole thing is gonna the dam is
18:55
going to break apart I think a lot of
18:56
these people are going to go to jail I
18:58
think that anybody running on the
19:00
Republican ticket he’s going to have a
19:03
chance at a clean sweep III think 2020
19:07
elections are going to be a disaster as
19:10
all this stuff floats to the surface I
19:12
think Trump’s numbers are going to take
19:14
a double-digit jump very soon I wouldn’t
19:17
be surprised to see him in the long run
19:19
I mean things can change but I wouldn’t
19:21
be surprised to see him get a 40 state
19:23
win out of the next presidential
19:25
election so let’s just hope that’s the
19:27
way it turns out you know just going to
19:30
character for a moment I read an article
19:32
recently I don’t know how recently was
19:35
written but I read it recently which was
19:37
by the fellow who fired Hillary Clinton
19:39
from the Watergate hearings and he said
19:42
he felt it was time that people knew
19:45
what kind of a character they were
19:47
dealing with he listed his reasons for
19:49
letting her go
19:50
not gonna I’m not gonna state them here
19:52
because I’ve run in the article in front
19:54
of me
19:55
but anybody who’s really interested in
19:57
knowing whether or not Hillary Clinton
20:00
is capable of the things you’re
20:02
describing really should go back and
20:04
look at her behavior um in the Watergate
20:07
Commission see what she did to Nixon and
20:11
to the American public and why and who
20:14
benefited was quite an extraordinary
20:17
laundry list of sociopathic actions
20:22
which had nothing to do with
20:23
establishing truth or improving the
20:26
quality of American government and once
20:28
you’ve read that and everything that
20:30
you’re describing that could be
20:31
attributed to her are perfectly
20:34
consistent with that character I agree
20:38
with that assessment III think that that
20:40
is consistent and I as I sometimes make
20:43
the point you know for the word morality
20:45
we can’t have three definitions immoral
20:47
moral and immoral and she’s one of those
20:50
people that strikes me is fully immoral
20:52
just their morality isn’t taken into
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calculation in her world which is that
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sort of sociopathic attitude if you will
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and I I think that fits her you know as
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all this unfolds and we’ll see what
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happens I I know she’s got some health
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problems too so I would I just don’t
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know what’s going to happen on that
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score as they dig back and if it gets
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traced back to the origins of all this
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to her how she’ll be treated but I think
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like I said I think in the origin of
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this is all Hillary Clinton and if you
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look at as you’re saying as this has
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unfolded and the path that was chosen as
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a result of being faced with a certain
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type of problem it’s consistent with
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what we’ve seen out of Hillary Clinton
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you know she’s not the you know it’s not
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her in her nature to take these things
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head-on it’s in her nature and it’s sort
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of like try to do something about it
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behind the scenes and cover and create
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cover for action if you will on what she
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does and what she wants to do so that’s
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that just a completely amoral attitude
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very kind of sociopathic attitude that
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that I think he’s consistent throughout
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her public career
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