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brad johnson here for americans for
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intelligence reform you can follow us at
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youtube under brad johnson or at intel
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reformed org here with Barry web senior
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fellow at Americans for intelligence
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form author and also NSA Arabist and
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what we were going to do is follow up on
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some things we’ve been discussing before
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specifically the reporting that has
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taken place the Arabic language
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reporting that’s taken place on what
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this tit-for-tat that’s going on between
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the United States and Iran so Barry if
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you could just give up you know to
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second kind of overview and then that
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what the latest reporting has been okay
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yeah to bring everyone up to speed after
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we took out cinnamon apply some of suni
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Manny the Iranians fired over a dozen
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missiles into Iraq I understand about
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ten of them hit but base called alassad
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which is in the end bar province that’s
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important remember that and several
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others fell on on a base up in Erbil
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okay remember that one because that’s
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going to come into play a night or two
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and bunch of others course missed their
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targets and so at that point everybody
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was talking about why was this World War
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three you know what’s going to happen
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next
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I know Sarah was interviewing a bunch of
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people you know it’s all this is going
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on and they had a guy based in Tehran
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Iran he was built as an experts on Arab
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Iranian affairs and just for perfect
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Arabic so I don’t know if he was a young
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Arab that was placed there as a reporter
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or whether he was a local Iranian but
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anyway he said that the IRGC had was
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saying that their attacks were extremely
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successful and that they had killed
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several Americans but then as
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intelligence began to come out that
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there’s no Americans or Iraqis
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were hurt in the attack only some you
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know damaged them a few buildings I
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guess Iran began to change his tune
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saying well we missed on purpose we just
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wanted to send a message but without
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hurting anybody and so both sides kind
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of used that as an excuse to back down
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and we did not respond to their response
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so ever that made everybody happy the
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stock market went up and all that so
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that’s kind of where it stood well yeah
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I would characterize it it looks like
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the Iranians basically got caught making
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all sorts of wild claims I mean there
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were 30 to 80 dead Americans and a lot
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of different wild things that were being
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reported they got caught lying and were
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sort of humiliated although obviously
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they controlled reporting to their own
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countrymen so they’ve got their domestic
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reporting sewn up and here on this side
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the President Trump came out and made a
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very strong statement said we’re ramping
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up new sanctions against Iran and you
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know if any American has ever killed
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word you’re gonna pay a terrible price
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so the the American president Trump came
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out looking awfully strong got the
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things settled where everyone was
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arguing you know this is this is going
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to spin out of control in fact it’s kind
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of a clear win for the president a clear
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loss for Iran although of course they
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obviously don’t play it domestically
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that way how about the the Arabic
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reporting from all of the Arabic
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speaking countries you know specifically
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Egypt and anything that you might hear
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out of the different countries that are
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relevant to this that are the larger
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players what’s your feel for what you’re
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seeing there
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well when the course when we killed
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Saudi man II they were dancing in the
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streets pretty much every Arabic country
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particularly in Iraq itself and you’ll
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never heard this and our beauty here but
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also in Iran and I just heard something
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last night when somebody on LRO BO TV
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was interviewing an Iranian who lives in
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America and she was speaking English but
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they had Arabic subtitles she said that
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you know like you know the Middle East
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where people were happy they baked
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cookies to bake cakes so an hour
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ran what’s happening now is everybody’s
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baking cakes baking cookies and passing
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this stuff out openly on the streets so
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they’re extremely happy silly Manny had
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been taken out and but did you know the
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media showed when they brought the sooty
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Manny’s body back into Iran they showed
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pictures of all oh it’s millions of
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mourners pouring out to show their you
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know their respect for Sunni man you
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know stuff yeah that’s all phony yeah
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there are some mourners you know the
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IRGC and people like that all the rest
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of that crowd was there buddy they were
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forced and the Iranian authorities yet
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argc use live rounds fire people if they
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refused to go out and show at least
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symbolic morning and they did the same
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thing as some of the Iraqi cities who
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have reports that of some of the cities
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than ever in our southern Iraq that for
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example in a nicer area there were a
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bunch of Iraqi Shia who were reporting
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us who’s me protesting against Iran and
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the the popular militia groups came out
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and used again life live rounds against
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the protesters for because they refused
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to show symbolic mourning for silly man
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so that gives you an idea of what the
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what the tone is on the Arab Street
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coming out of Egypt also and a report I
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sent to you of which I believe is on our
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website now a lot of sarcasm regarding
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the Iranian response and respect word
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from congratulating America for having
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made down in the strong move that
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America is now acting instead of just
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reacting I would enough echo that in
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Eastern Europe and a lot of the you know
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non-english language reporting that’s
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going on in the world that has that has
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been picked up and carried over I would
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I have seen similar things
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all just all over the world that
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normally doesn’t get picked up and used
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here in the United States that that
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United States has been shown to be
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strong and Iran has been shown to be
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weak and that and not for the first time
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that this is something that now is a
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pattern that’s in people’s mind and I my
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guess is that’s certainly one of the
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reasons why air gran was firing rockets
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into the desert hoping to kind of get
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out of all of the this is save face to
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some degree for their domestic you know
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consumers one final thing on this there
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is kind of another aspect to this that’s
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popped up and that’s the shooting down
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of this Ukrainian aircraft now this is
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something that you had noted previously
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in discussion it was a 2016 built
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aircraft so a fairly new aircraft not
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something that’s worn out and old like
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sometimes you see fall out of the skies
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in the rest of the world and it’s
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apparently now been said to have been
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shot down by a missile and what everyone
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is claiming is you know oops it was an
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accident the rocket was fired out of
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Iran Russian equipment we don’t know if
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Russia’s were on hand as any part of the
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technical support for the for these
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missile platforms but it was filled with
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Iranians headed to Ukraine which I find
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the whole scenario kind of interesting
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you know and I personally questioned you
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know an accident being the cause of this
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I know the program to fire off missiles
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isn’t where you know you you spill your
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coffee and are wiping the the you know
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the control board and a missile goes off
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you know or you lean over and touch your
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elbow to it the missile goes off it’s
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far more complicated than that and
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requires you know more involvement of
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humans to get this to take place so I I
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just find that a little far-fetched that
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it was an accident and I would suggest
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maybe somebody who’s on the aircraft
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somebody wanted dead conceivably the
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Russians or the Iranians had some sort
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of political enemy on they’re certainly
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going to Ukraine what support was there
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going on for the country of Ukraine
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which as we know Russia has a kind of
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ongoing conflict when they annexed the
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Crimea a part of Ukraine so there there
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is conflict in Ukraine and port Ukraine
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it seems every time we turn around
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they’re getting
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they’re getting kind of kicked in the
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teeth and are in the in the crosshairs
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for some sort of problems so just
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curiosity what do you see reporting
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taking place that just touches on this
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whole Ukrainian aircraft one thing right
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after the the plane was shot down the
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Twitter accounts in Arabic went went
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wild and mostly sarcastic regarding Iran
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saying such things as you can’t you
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can’t even kill one American but you
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shoot a civilian airliner with these and
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on and on that kind of stuff now what
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the official news on lrb OTV said and
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they quoted they were quoting american
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intelligence that based on satellite
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photos and went out that – not one but
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two missiles hit the aircraft the theory
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that has been cornered going around is
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that if you look at the timing this came
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right after they had fired the missiles
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at the US bases in Iraq and so the
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Iranian air defense units were on ultra
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high alert and they for some reason
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mistook this aircraft as a possible
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American you know air attacks or
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something and so some you know some
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idiot just panicked and hit the hit the
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send button there boom you know yeah
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actually you go back in time we did the
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same thing way back wow I was a decade
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or two decades ago when we shut down an
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Iranian airliner if you remember that I
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do yes and that was you know it was an
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accident so those things happen you know
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you can sometimes people mistake a
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civilian airliner for a military
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aircraft so but it does appear that an
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explosion of some kind constant whether
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it was a missile hitting the plane or
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two missiles or a bomb from inside but
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if you look at the debris on the ground
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when the after the plane came down is
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spread out way too wide for it to be
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plain
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magma mechanical failure for the plane
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to just fall if played from a mechanical
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failure the debris would be more
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concentrated one area but this was just
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spread out all over so in other words it
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just shows that I have exploded in the
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air and then all the debris came down
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over a wide area yeah agreed that that
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was something that’s been now reported
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yesterday final thoughts and also
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something that we had touched on earlier
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sulemani was taken out by a drone strike
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by by President Trump and he’s been
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widely criticized as you know murdering
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some poor innocent guy who is just a
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diplomat which of course now no need to
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go into that in detail but we all know
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that’s completely false a completely
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false narrative but under the previous
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administration under Obama this was done
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a number of times including Libya so any
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comments on that and final thoughts yeah
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you know took out bin Laden he was in
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here we took out a Loki and the Yemen
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and he was here and took out or helped
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take out Qaddafi in Libya it created a
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mess but of course he’s a hero
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yeah it just illustrates the double
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standard that the Democrats have but to
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add to make things worse oh I want to
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back up a little bit go back to Iran
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because Iran you know even now even
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though they back down a little bit and
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it kind of gave everybody a face-saving
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way to get out of this they’ve also have
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stress that they’re continuing to
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continue their you know their plans
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their project to get all American forces
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out of the Middle East and they’re going
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to do this by not killing Americans but
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by attacking countries that have
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American bases in them yes yeah we’re
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going to see more and more of that in
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other words they’re going to continue to
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poke the bear but never go so far as to
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bring about a direct response however
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they they they might up the
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again because of what Congress just did
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they they passed a bill supposedly to
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restrict Trump’s ability to respond to
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Iranian provocation to do and you know
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do things like like we did last week
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when we took out soda man so this will
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tie the president’s hands he cannot act
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as commander chief he cannot he cannot
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respond to immediate threats let’s go to
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Congress each time and of course you
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know what they’re gonna do they’re gonna
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leak it to the media so the enemy will
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know yeah now however that that
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congressional bill that was a thing that
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was passed is a non-binding bill so it’s
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it’s a political statement versus an
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actual you know legal restriction on the
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president so all right Barry Webb thank
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you very much one more things to go but
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the problem is the Iranians and the
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other nut cases in the Middle East see
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that as weakness and they see that they
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have allies in America
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and that the president’s hands are tied
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that’s the way they’re going to
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interpret that and they’re going to act
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accordingly
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you
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