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grad Johnson for Americans for
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intelligence firm here today with Barry
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Webb senior fellow at American
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intelligence reform author and NSA
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Arabist Barry there’s been a lot going
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on in Libya and it looks like the two
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opposing forces the the general Haftarah
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that’s kind of the you know on the
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outside if you will is is making great
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strides so how does it look what’s the
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latest reporting and developments in
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that area and Libya Libya and Tripoli
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okay first of all the heft our forces
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which are have been besieging Tripoli
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since last April and a few other cities
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that the opposition holds has
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consolidated their hold over the city of
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Sirte now certo was an old Isis
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stronghold so to have that cleaned out
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is a victory for anybody whose
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counterterrorism efforts next on their
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agenda a little bit further up the
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coastal but for the West is a city
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called Macerata and Turkey has been
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using the port at mass rata and their
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main conduit for shipping weapons and
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jihadi fighters from Syria and other
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countries into Libya to aid the Tripoli
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forces so that’s going to be the next
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target for the so-called Libyan National
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Army which is led by a channel half tire
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of course the ultimate prize will be
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Libya itself
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i’ma choosing me out tripoli itself you
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know while all of this was going on
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heard again has made a couple of trips
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one he first of all he dropped into
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Tunis last week unannounced I think we
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reported on that before and the to me
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we’re not terribly amused and then just
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a couple of it was yesterday and the day
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before heard against puppet Fayez Sarraj
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who heads the government in Tripoli the
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Muslim brother Brotherhood government
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Tripoli paid a visit to Algeria along
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with herb against foreign minister
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so they both dropped in on on Syria
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again to try to get support for the
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Turkish
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and the Turkish effort in Tripoli and it
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says it turns out Oregon was rebuffed by
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both Tunisia and Algeria so let me ask a
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question on that line just kind of in
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general what’s the tone of the reporting
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you see on it the reason I ask of course
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is now we’re going back over a hundred
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years but the Ottoman Empire which
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controlled all of Arabia all the Arabic
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speaking countries during that period
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you know there were pretty pretty tough
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masters and and you know pretty firmly
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had that Bootheel of Turkish control
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over all of the era blank speaking
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people now what is that what’s the sort
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of modern that there must be some level
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of resentment boiling with this and and
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clearly they have a feel for the fact
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that that Aragon is looking to
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re-establish an ottoman empire now that
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must be a scary piece of news from their
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perspective is that bubbling along or is
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that am i off base on that no your exec
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you’re exactly right there Oregon has
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made no secret of the belief that that
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he’s been selected by a law to you know
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lead the Muslim world in this final war
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against the West and he’s going to be
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doing this as the Calif and as the head
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of a you want to call it Neo Ottoman you
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know Empire a resurrection of the old
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Ottoman Empire with himself as a caliph
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of course yes and he’s been spreading
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that propaganda all over the Middle East
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and he has backed it up with elaborate
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soap operas which he has produced using
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Arabic speaking actors and funneled into
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these countries and these soap operas to
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become very very popular a lot of
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children a lot of people are naming
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their kids after names of characters
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that are in these soap operas which
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glorify the great Ottoman Empire when
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tennis heyday so are began and I said
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probably thinks that he is already late
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you know planted the seeds laid the
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groundwork and that everybody in the in
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the Muslim world
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is going to just accept him yes the yes
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the KSA kailath you know medically and
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of course the Muslim Brotherhood well
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because they believe the same thing they
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want the same same you know same call
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and they’re willing to to align
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themselves with Erdogan in order to
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achieve this so that’s his mindset when
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he goes into these countries but the
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majority of the people in these Arab
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countries particularly in Egypt you know
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they’re very resistant to that they
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remember the heavy boot you know as you
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mentioned and there’s a lot of sarcasm
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in the Arab media about Aragon and his
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grandiose grandiose idea so so as he
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moves as he goes you know paced business
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to Tunisia and on Syria
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he was overestimating how much ground
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work
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I guess he’s done or how successful it
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had been and under estimating the degree
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of contempt of sarcasm towards his idea
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of the resurrected Ottoman Empire and so
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he got rebuffed in two days later he
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runs crying to Vladimir Putin and they
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just signed an agreement got calling for
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a ceasefire in Libya so that’s kind of
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goes only early on it’s kind of a
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face-saving I guess move in that
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direction one thing about what unless
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you have another question I got one more
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thing to say about the Libya situation
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but go ahead you got the question here I
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was going to say is that now there’s
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they’re making fun of him they’ve
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rebuffed him but how serious of a divide
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is that is our other Turkish people are
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they hated or greatly disliked or just
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looked at with mistrust or how deep is
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that divide that you see I mean just in
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their reporting how are they treating
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air to gonn are they treating him as a
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you know upstart smart-mouth guy or are
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they treating him as actually dangerous
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individual they have to be careful of or
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do they treat him with hatred what is
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the feel from what you see in the
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reporting okay general like you mention
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your sarcasm but in Asia you seem
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or actual contempt and fear in fact it’s
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the fear of Turkey that has brought them
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into a virtual alliance with Israel well
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same cause politics makes for strange
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bedfellows yes yes they’re on the same
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in fact there’s a reaction even larger
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lengths includes Greece Cyprus Israel
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and Egypt have kind of formed a in an
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alliance if you will and their fear of
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Turkey is the common denominator there
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so I think it’s a lot stronger in Turkey
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because I mean in Egypt scuse me because
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Egypt has a ancient history as a
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nation-state yes and this is really the
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only one in the Middle East that has
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that long tradition as a nation-state
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and so of all of the Arabic countries
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and regions
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I think they resented the Turkish boots
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more than any of the others except
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Saudis also have a deep red sand
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historic of ruts to there but have you
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seen any of the opposite are there any
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Arab countries there that are kind of
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friendly to the whole concept I mean we
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see groups like the Muslim Brotherhood
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but that’s a an organization that shares
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goals and therefore I have partnered to
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further their common goals versus a
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country whose culture allows itself to
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be kind of look at this as an attractive
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option out into the future is there any
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of that opposite camp where where an
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ottoman empire resurgence would be sort
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of an attractive possibility absolutely
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clutter which is one of the perhaps the
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main financier in the Muslim Brotherhood
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and they host the the primary ideologue
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the Muslim Brotherhood today I just said
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äòi I’ve seen a flurry of editorials you
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don’t want to call Matt Sh whatever
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which appear to be planted by the Turks
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themselves but written in perfect Arabic
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again glorifying the Ottoman Empire and
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heaping criticism upon those who are
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criticizing Aragon and his current moves
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in the Middle East all right we’ve had
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one final thought let’s finish up with
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that on Libya
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yes it was just missing yesterday or
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that or the night before anyway a report
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is coming out of Tunisia that the new
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Tunisian authorities have seized a large
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shipment of Turkish arms that were being
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smuggled across the board from Libya
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into Tunisia and this is on al arabiya
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TV which is Saudi on TV the Tunisian
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official that they interviewed said that
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of course this has been going on for
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quite some time and it’s not only around
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in Tunisia they’re using they’re also
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doing the same thing
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smuggling Turkish arms into Algeria
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across the Libyan border with Algeria
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and these are going not only to the
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radical units within Tunisia and Algeria
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but they’re being distributed all
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throughout Africa and pretty you know
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we’ve reported previously that the Turks
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were aiding Boko Haram so this kind of
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adds confirmation to that and you know
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as we know we have Pro Isis and pro al
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Qaeda groups franchise is what you want
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to call them operating in northern
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Nigeria but Burkina Faso Mali Niger and
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all across northern Africa and the Turks
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are the ones that are behind this our
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NATO ally that’s interesting in Boko
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Haram is particularly known for being
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brutal and a lot of their their
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terrorist type activities so alright
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very well thank you so much follow us at
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Brad Johnson thank you so much again
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