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Brad Johnson Feb 10 the Chinese economy and the flu

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Brad Johnson it is February the 10th of
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2020 the Wu hen flu is still the main
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item in the news pretty much everywhere
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there was a great question from a reader
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at Vlad about what the economic fallout
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of this could be have you got any
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insight into that yeah I
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and it was an excellent question very
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insightful and I appreciate it and my
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previous discussion of what was going on
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in China my focus was probably you know
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far more leaning towards the political
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aspects of this versus the economic
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although I did kind of mention both so
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kind of to clarify on that and and this
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is one of the points that your reader
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brought out is that with and the numbers
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we’ve discussed are 85% infection rate
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and 15% kill rate maybe 15 to 20
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somewhere in there so and we don’t have
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from numbers that have come out yet on
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this one little point on that there’s
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news that broke early this morning it’s
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coming out of Taipei and London both
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that there’s they found in wins where
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they annales analyze what’s going on
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there that there’s a very high
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concentration of Karpis carbon sulfate
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which is a byproduct of cremation and
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they’re saying that this this would be
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an indicator not proof but an indicator
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that there’s massive cremations taking
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place centered on no other place than
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Wuhan China which is the origin of this
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flu so if that’s true of course we’ve
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always speculated that the Chinese are
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vastly under understating the true
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number of people killed and they’re
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saying today in the news 900 which
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probably you know if this is true with
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the cremation and all of that
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adding the 0 at the end which is the
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formula I always use 9,000 is probably
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much closer to the truth okay now for
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the economic things one of the things
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that your reader pointed out as I said
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was the the economic impact absolutely
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true if there is indeed an 85 percent
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infection rate all those people are
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knocked out the economy of China will be
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brought to its knees in the earlier
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report where I was discussing this my
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point out
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of this was that it had not spread and
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wasn’t completely covering blanketing
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China and and beyond the borders he was
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still concentrated in a very small area
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however the Chinese and the American
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counterparts had already discussed the
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fact that they weren’t going to be able
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to hold up their end of the trade
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agreements that had been made although
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the Chinese did immediately come out and
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reduce some tariffs and things like that
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but their agricultural purchases and
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things of that nature weren’t going to
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go forward my point out of that was that
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it was so early in the process and the
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numbers that the Chinese were reporting
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were so low that these you know there
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were 300 deaths at that time Anna and a
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couple thousand infected I mean 300
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thousand a couple thousand infected is
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so small that it could not possibly have
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that impact so the point being why would
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the Chinese have come over to the
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Americans and say hey this flu thing is
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serious we’re 300 deaths and and and two
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or three thousand infected is not
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serious so that means it’s just another
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indicator of the depth of the
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seriousness of this that’s truly going
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on behind the scenes versus what the
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Chinese are publicly mentioning which
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again also the present economic advisor
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and the Secretary of Agriculture both
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saying you know publicly that that that
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the this is not going to be able to go
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forward at the greed upon levels on the
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economic levels that’s tacit
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acknowledgement that the United States
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recognizes that the true depth of the
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problem in China is much larger
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otherwise you know like I say a couple
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thousand in fact it just isn’t big
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enough to have that overall economic
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impact now as I said the point of view
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of your reader that was you know dead-on
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is that if indeed this spreads which it
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looks like it’s going to be very
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difficult to contain with that infection
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rate if it goes forward that way it’s
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going to be a disaster I mean if it goes
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China wide I mean there will be people
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as the Ring goes out there’ll be new
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infections and at the center there’ll be
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the ones that are getting over it
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apparently it’s about a two-week period
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of time to recover or die from the flu
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so that it’ll be two rings moving
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outward together but behind
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they’ll just be though at a 15 or 20
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percent death rate I mean that’s just
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disastrous and there’ll be key people
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that will be killed now it does
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concentrate all the reports show that it
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does concentrate which is consistent
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with historical events of this nature
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that’s the old and the young the weak
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that are going to be the most
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susceptible to dying over but
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nevertheless people being pulled out of
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the workforce for a couple weeks in
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masses is will be massively destructive
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damaging to the Chinese economy so it’s
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it’s it’s absolutely something that will
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be bad on the political level which is
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kind of where I concentrate normally one
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of my other points was on this I the
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Chinese government the people that are
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in power are going to have everything
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they need the high military people the
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high political Communist Party people
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they’re not probably going to be
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susceptible to this and part of the
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point out of this that I wanted to make
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last time and I want to clarify now is
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they don’t care how many people die in a
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communist system and this is something
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most in the West we don’t really
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recognize readily but in the communist
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system you as an individual aren’t
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important you belong to the party if the
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party says it’s time for you to die you
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die this is this is the Communist Party
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of Chairman Mao and Chairman Mao if
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everyone recalls was the guy that killed
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millions of Chinese by he had this
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campaign which is to melt down pots and
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pans and make steel because they need to
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march into the future and become more
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industrial and what happened was
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nationwide everyone got into this
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meltdown the pots and make steel thing
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and they were all doing that and not
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harvesting the food so when the harvest
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didn’t take place a lot of people start
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to death and at the end of all that
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Chairman Mao famously said well okay
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yeah a lot of people died but we learned
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in his skill so we’re marching forward
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and that’s just how the Chinese view it
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I mean it’s sort of their perspective
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but also this is tenfold greater that
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way because of the fact that it’s the
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Communist Party they just don’t care so
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they may look at this as a reduction in
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population is something they’ve been
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after for a long time and then also as a
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means to establish even
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or control within society and move into
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areas that they haven’t controlled
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completely so that was that was the two
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halves of it so like I said this is
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going to be a disaster one way or
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another never let a crisis go to waste I
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think that seems exactly right
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thank you very much Brad Johnson

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