Americans for Intelligence Reform

Brad Johnson, President, and retired CIA Senior Officer and Chief of Staff. Insight into current events from an intelligence angle.

Retired CIA officer Brad Johnson on Jeff Sessions resignation and the never ending Russia probe

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brad johnson there’s been some

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brad johnson there’s been some

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brad johnson there’s been some
interesting personnel changes in those

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interesting personnel changes in those

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interesting personnel changes in those
circling the president the last few days

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circling the president the last few days

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circling the president the last few days
maybe you could tell us a bit about that

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maybe you could tell us a bit about that

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maybe you could tell us a bit about that
yeah there’s something something that i

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yeah there’s something something that i

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yeah there’s something something that i
think is particularly significant and

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think is particularly significant and

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think is particularly significant and
that is that just hours this morning

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that is that just hours this morning

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that is that just hours this morning
after the elections of last night for

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after the elections of last night for

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after the elections of last night for
the midterm elections here in the united

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the midterm elections here in the united

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the midterm elections here in the united
states the president nine states trump

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states the president nine states trump

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states the president nine states trump
went to jeff sessions and asked him to

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went to jeff sessions and asked him to

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went to jeff sessions and asked him to
submit his resignation which he did so

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submit his resignation which he did so

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submit his resignation which he did so
he resigned he wasn’t fired he resigned

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he resigned he wasn’t fired he resigned

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he resigned he wasn’t fired he resigned
from his position now i think the

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from his position now i think the

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from his position now i think the
president felt empowered to do that

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president felt empowered to do that

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president felt empowered to do that
particularly because he won additional

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particularly because he won additional

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particularly because he won additional
seats in the Senate the Senate is the

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seats in the Senate the Senate is the

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seats in the Senate the Senate is the
body that confirms people to positions

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body that confirms people to positions

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body that confirms people to positions
like the head of the Department of

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like the head of the Department of

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like the head of the Department of
Justice jeff Sessions sector of justice

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Justice jeff Sessions sector of justice

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Justice jeff Sessions sector of justice
so that the Department of Justice that

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so that the Department of Justice that

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so that the Department of Justice that
that puts the position of the president

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that puts the position of the president

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that puts the position of the president
in a position to really kind of drive

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in a position to really kind of drive

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in a position to really kind of drive
the boat and that I think that’s what

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the boat and that I think that’s what

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the boat and that I think that’s what
he’s done

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he’s done

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he’s done
so immediately within hours of the

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so immediately within hours of the

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so immediately within hours of the
election seeing that he’d held on and

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election seeing that he’d held on and

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election seeing that he’d held on and
increased his lead in the Senate and

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increased his lead in the Senate and

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increased his lead in the Senate and
also with the change of some of the

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also with the change of some of the

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also with the change of some of the
senators he has more support within

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senators he has more support within

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senators he has more support within
those existing senators so the first

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those existing senators so the first

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those existing senators so the first
thing he does is tell jeff sessions

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thing he does is tell jeff sessions

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thing he does is tell jeff sessions
you’re gone jeff sessions had made a

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you’re gone jeff sessions had made a

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you’re gone jeff sessions had made a
critical error early on from the view of

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critical error early on from the view of

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critical error early on from the view of
the president and that was that he

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the president and that was that he

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the president and that was that he
recused himself from the entire mueller

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recused himself from the entire mueller

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recused himself from the entire mueller
investigation of supposedly the the

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investigation of supposedly the the

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investigation of supposedly the the
collusion between the trump campaign and

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collusion between the trump campaign and

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collusion between the trump campaign and
the russians of which there’s never been

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the russians of which there’s never been

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the russians of which there’s never been
any evidence whatsoever so that I think

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any evidence whatsoever so that I think

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any evidence whatsoever so that I think
was the basically was was the kiss of

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was the basically was was the kiss of

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was the basically was was the kiss of
death for sessions and was just waiting

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death for sessions and was just waiting

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death for sessions and was just waiting
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to the first point where he could do it

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to the first point where he could do it
and the president United States had

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and the president United States had

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and the president United States had
spoken publicly on sessions recusing

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spoken publicly on sessions recusing

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spoken publicly on sessions recusing
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himself and not having told the

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himself and not having told the
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president in advance that that was going

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president in advance that that was going
to be his attitude so now that that

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to be his attitude so now that that

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to be his attitude so now that that
sessions is gone the president has

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sessions is gone the president has

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sessions is gone the president has
appointed Matt Whittaker in and Matt

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appointed Matt Whittaker in and Matt

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appointed Matt Whittaker in and Matt
Whittaker is is a pretty strong

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Whittaker is is a pretty strong

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Whittaker is is a pretty strong
supporter of the president United States

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supporter of the president United States

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supporter of the president United States
and very importantly rod Rosa Steen

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and very importantly rod Rosa Steen

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and very importantly rod Rosa Steen
who’s the deputy behind Jeff Sessions

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who’s the deputy behind Jeff Sessions

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who’s the deputy behind Jeff Sessions
Jeff Sessions recused himself so roses

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Jeff Sessions recused himself so roses

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Jeff Sessions recused himself so roses
was the one running the investigation

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was the one running the investigation

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was the one running the investigation
now that there’s a new acting director

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now that there’s a new acting director

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now that there’s a new acting director
that that person Matt Whitaker then is

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that that person Matt Whitaker then is

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that that person Matt Whitaker then is
in charge of that investigation and he

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in charge of that investigation and he

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in charge of that investigation and he
is not refused so that then changes

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is not refused so that then changes

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is not refused so that then changes
everything the president United States

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everything the president United States

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everything the president United States
has taken control of the Mueller

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has taken control of the Mueller

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has taken control of the Mueller
investigation so very interesting change

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investigation so very interesting change

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investigation so very interesting change
in the dynamic and very important and

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in the dynamic and very important and

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in the dynamic and very important and
the president like I said within hours

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the president like I said within hours

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the president like I said within hours
of being able to do so immediately made

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of being able to do so immediately made

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of being able to do so immediately made
that change and that’s a big deal and if

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that change and that’s a big deal and if

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that change and that’s a big deal and if
if anyone complains or whatever he can

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if anyone complains or whatever he can

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if anyone complains or whatever he can
name somebody else and then it has to go

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name somebody else and then it has to go

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name somebody else and then it has to go
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through the Senate to get confirmation

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through the Senate to get confirmation
so he’s going to be able to confirm down

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so he’s going to be able to confirm down

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so he’s going to be able to confirm down
although as far as he wants rod

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although as far as he wants rod

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although as far as he wants rod
Rosenstein I think his responsibilities

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Rosenstein I think his responsibilities

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Rosenstein I think his responsibilities
in charge of the Mueller investigation

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in charge of the Mueller investigation

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in charge of the Mueller investigation
will be removed from him immediately and

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will be removed from him immediately and

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will be removed from him immediately and
then Rosset rod rosa seems fair game

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then Rosset rod rosa seems fair game

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then Rosset rod rosa seems fair game
he’s done anything wrong which there’s a

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he’s done anything wrong which there’s a

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he’s done anything wrong which there’s a
lot of indications that there’s problems

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lot of indications that there’s problems

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lot of indications that there’s problems
with him he was one of the people that

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with him he was one of the people that

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with him he was one of the people that
was a signature on the Pfizer request

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was a signature on the Pfizer request

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was a signature on the Pfizer request
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that allowed the spying against the

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that allowed the spying against the
Trump campaign highly questionable and

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Trump campaign highly questionable and

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Trump campaign highly questionable and
based on the steel dossier which was all

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based on the steel dossier which was all

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based on the steel dossier which was all
nonsense it was paid for by Hillary

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nonsense it was paid for by Hillary

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nonsense it was paid for by Hillary
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Clinton Clinton campaign rod rose esteem

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Clinton Clinton campaign rod rose esteem
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almost certainly knew all of that going

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almost certainly knew all of that going
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in in advance so rod Rosa Singh is

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in in advance so rod Rosa Singh is
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probably guilty of at least some things

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probably guilty of at least some things
that are if not illegal criminal he’s

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that are if not illegal criminal he’s

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that are if not illegal criminal he’s
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certainly guilty of some things that

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certainly guilty of some things that
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were not moral to have done and not

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were not moral to have done and not
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within the regulations that the
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Department of Justice follows so that

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Department of Justice follows so that
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would be procedural mistakes but major

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would be procedural mistakes but major
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procedural mistakes so it could fall

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procedural mistakes so it could fall
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anywhere on that because certainly you

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anywhere on that because certainly you
know if he knowingly lied on that FISA

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know if he knowingly lied on that FISA

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know if he knowingly lied on that FISA
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thing FISA requests that’s something

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thing FISA requests that’s something
where he had to sign that he was telling

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where he had to sign that he was telling

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where he had to sign that he was telling
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the truth to it so it would be a perjury

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the truth to it so it would be a perjury
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or or different things that could be it

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or or different things that could be it
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depends on how they treated at DOJ for

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depends on how they treated at DOJ for
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that but rod Rose has seen I would say

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that but rod Rose has seen I would say
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is on the on the list and probably will

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is on the on the list and probably will
be gone fairly soon especially once he’s

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be gone fairly soon especially once he’s

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be gone fairly soon especially once he’s
removed from the Mueller investigation

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removed from the Mueller investigation

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removed from the Mueller investigation
there’s no reason not to be fired by the

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there’s no reason not to be fired by the

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there’s no reason not to be fired by the
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president then the president as I said

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president then the president as I said
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is in the driver’s seat and he can start

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is in the driver’s seat and he can start
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working his way down the list and

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working his way down the list and
replace all of these people that have

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replace all of these people that have

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replace all of these people that have
been involved in skullduggery and so on

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been involved in skullduggery and so on

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been involved in skullduggery and so on
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and that’s going to
spread over to the FBI you’ll see the

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spread over to the FBI you’ll see the

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spread over to the FBI you’ll see the
same thing there so I think the

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same thing there so I think the

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same thing there so I think the
president this is a first very effective

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president this is a first very effective

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president this is a first very effective
step to take control back over the

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step to take control back over the

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step to take control back over the
Department of Justice and right on the

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Department of Justice and right on the

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Department of Justice and right on the
heels of that of anis I think you’re

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heels of that of anis I think you’re

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heels of that of anis I think you’re
gonna see him do the same thing for the

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gonna see him do the same thing for the

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gonna see him do the same thing for the
FBI so does this mean it’s a chance that

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FBI so does this mean it’s a chance that

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FBI so does this mean it’s a chance that
the never ending Russia investigation is

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the never ending Russia investigation is

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the never ending Russia investigation is
going to be over because I guess CNN

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going to be over because I guess CNN

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going to be over because I guess CNN
will all have to pack up go home yeah

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will all have to pack up go home yeah

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will all have to pack up go home yeah
well nobody watches CNN anyway so I

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well nobody watches CNN anyway so I

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well nobody watches CNN anyway so I
think you have more viewers than CNN and

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think you have more viewers than CNN and

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think you have more viewers than CNN and
they unless you count their TVs and all

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they unless you count their TVs and all

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they unless you count their TVs and all
the airports around the world I don’t

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the airports around the world I don’t

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the airports around the world I don’t
count that uh yeah I think the Mueller

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count that uh yeah I think the Mueller

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count that uh yeah I think the Mueller
investigations gonna be over very

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investigations gonna be over very

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investigations gonna be over very
quickly now Miller’s gonna try to I

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quickly now Miller’s gonna try to I

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quickly now Miller’s gonna try to I
think pump it out if he’s got any brains

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think pump it out if he’s got any brains

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think pump it out if he’s got any brains
whatsoever he’s going to end it

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whatsoever he’s going to end it

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whatsoever he’s going to end it
immediately before it it gets much worse

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immediately before it it gets much worse

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immediately before it it gets much worse
for him he’s like I said with the new

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for him he’s like I said with the new

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for him he’s like I said with the new
Matt Whitaker in at DOJ he’s got

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Matt Whitaker in at DOJ he’s got

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Matt Whitaker in at DOJ he’s got
problems forming so what he needs to do

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problems forming so what he needs to do

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problems forming so what he needs to do
is get out of it wash his hands and move

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is get out of it wash his hands and move

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is get out of it wash his hands and move
on with life and try to stay out of

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on with life and try to stay out of

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on with life and try to stay out of
trouble I would suggest he keep his head

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trouble I would suggest he keep his head

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trouble I would suggest he keep his head
down because if procedurally a lot of

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down because if procedurally a lot of

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down because if procedurally a lot of
what he did was was you know he wasn’t

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what he did was was you know he wasn’t

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what he did was was you know he wasn’t
following procedures and not really

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following procedures and not really

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following procedures and not really
following the laws and all of that stuff

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following the laws and all of that stuff

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following the laws and all of that stuff
he might open himself up to some

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he might open himself up to some

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he might open himself up to some
problems too so I think they think that

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problems too so I think they think that

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problems too so I think they think that
investigation will end I wouldn’t be

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investigation will end I wouldn’t be

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investigation will end I wouldn’t be
surprised to see it over within 30 days

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surprised to see it over within 30 days

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surprised to see it over within 30 days
what a great Christmas present that

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what a great Christmas present that

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what a great Christmas present that
would be it certainly would and just

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would be it certainly would and just

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would be it certainly would and just
this whole thing has been it’s been an

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this whole thing has been it’s been an

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this whole thing has been it’s been an
affront to democracy I think so it’s

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affront to democracy I think so it’s

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affront to democracy I think so it’s
absolutely correct I agree with you

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absolutely correct I agree with you

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absolutely correct I agree with you
completely

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completely

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completely
thank you very much Brad Johnson for

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thank you very much Brad Johnson for

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thank you very much Brad Johnson for
Frank splaining back to us we’ll catch

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Frank splaining back to us we’ll catch

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Frank splaining back to us we’ll catch
up with you on the next issue

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