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Brad Johnson, President, and retired CIA Senior Officer and Chief of Staff. Insight into current events from an intelligence angle.

Timing is everything. Bannon arrested on heels of FBI lawyer plea bargain

Dems continue twisting every possible event to be yet another Trump misstep. One of their own pleads guilty, therefore, dirt must be dug up on Trump – no matter how confabulated. Bannon, not the best with details, now faces mail fraud charges from the US Post Office. A non-profit raising donations for The Wall, Bannon is a go-to fundraiser but something went amiss and the Post Office arrested Bannon on a yacht. The press says Trump is shaking in his boots, but Bannon had left the Trump administration prior to all of this. Just another day of mudslinging by the Bully Party.

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brad johnson it is august the 21st of
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2020
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and uh there was a very interestingly
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timed arrest
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of steve bannon um allegedly for
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breaking some rules
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in terms of fundraising for the wall and
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uh for me
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it just looks like a tit for tat
00:21
in terms of the the guilty plea
00:24
of the fbi lawyer but maybe there’s some
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more to it what do you what do you know
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about that
00:29
yeah it’s kind of an interesting case
00:31
and as you say there’s some quirks to
00:33
the timing that are worth kind of
00:35
laying out a little bit but uh in
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essence what happened
00:39
was uh after steve bannon left the
00:42
uh you know working for president trump
00:45
after he
00:46
left his job at at national security
00:48
council he went off and did some other
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things
00:51
and one of the things that he did was
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try to raise this
00:54
fund for build the wall so he was trying
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to
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privately fund it uh by getting
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donations from people
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and according to the what the press is
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reporting on the charges
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which you know take this with a grain of
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salt what they’re reporting is
01:09
that part of his sales pitch
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was you know to get donations was that
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it was an all-volunteer effort
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and so uh then part of the money was
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was paid out of that fund to another
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nonprofit
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and out of that other non-profit some
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people that were
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friends of steve bannon working with him
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on this project were getting money
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nowhere in that did they say that steve
01:37
bannon was being paid money
01:39
they did say that out of this uh
01:43
effort to build the wall he was paying
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some of his expenses
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now there’s some talk about some of this
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was done
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you know it’s it’s unclear who exactly
01:52
was doing that but some of what they’re
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saying is that it
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it crossed the line because he was
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buying you know a car
01:58
and and plastic surgery for his face
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which
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after looking at him i don’t see a lot
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of signs of that
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but maybe so and uh you know other
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personal items so that’s the charge that
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he was using this money to cover his
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personal items now out of a non-profit
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if you don’t pay yourself a salary but
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cover your expenses that is still an
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all-volunteer organization now
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i don’t know steve bannon well i mean
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i’ve met him he goes to some of these
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events and organizes events that i
02:28
get invited to and things like that so
02:30
i’ve met him but don’t know him
02:31
we’ve never had a personal one-on-one
02:33
conversation but just in my observations
02:35
of the man
02:36
and something that everybody says about
02:38
him is he’s very sloppy i mean he’s just
02:40
a sloppy guy you know if you look at how
02:42
he’s dressed how he
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you know kind of doesn’t really cut his
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hair and all this sort of stuff
02:47
uh he’s just a sloppy guy so if anything
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i would kind of lean towards that that
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you know he was
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just sloppy in the way he did some of
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this stuff
02:58
but the friends that were helping him on
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this thing
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according to the press reporting were
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the ones that were getting the money
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uh paid in as uh like a salary
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out of this other non-profit so then the
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the charge is that this is
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as uh electronic mail fraud the post
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offices that are the guys
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impressing these charges uh
03:20
now some of the timing out of this
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that’s so interesting
03:23
and what you alluded to early on in the
03:25
introduction is that this
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lawyer kleinsmith uh
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just got indicted out of part of the u.s
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attorney uh john durham investigation
03:36
which is this whole
03:37
fisa fiasco stuff so and then in a
03:40
previous interview we talked about what
03:41
a key guy he is and
03:43
it really looks like he’s basically
03:45
flipped and agreed to testify to get
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only one charge and a much less lesser
03:50
penalty you know lesser jail time
03:52
uh out of the deal so it’s a big deal
03:54
and a lot of i think a lot of other
03:57
uh indictments are coming on the heels
03:59
of that and he’s sort of like the first
04:01
the first domino to be touched and
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pushed over
04:05
now so what the timing of this
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is kind of matches that i will say one
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thing now of course the post office
04:12
is like state department and a lot of
04:13
the other federal agencies it’s been
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very very liberal for a very long time
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and so it would be
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an a place that’s clearly susceptible
04:22
to uh you know political corruption in
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the leadership level
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and certainly within that investigative
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arm of the post office
04:31
most people don’t realize i mean the
04:32
post office even has jail cells in
04:35
in the larger post office uh facilities
04:38
and so they’re they’re actually quite
04:39
active on this and a lot of people have
04:41
gone to jail for
04:42
mail fraud of one type or another and
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this is what they’re saying falls into
04:46
that category
04:47
uh but now the suspicious end of things
04:50
of course is the timing one
04:52
because we just had kleinsmith the
04:54
lawyer kleinsmith the fbi
04:56
lawyer get indicted so they need
04:58
something to offset that
05:00
so the democrats do so this would be
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good timing in that sense to show that
05:05
there’s other indictments and
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the press coverage of this now is saying
05:08
oh president trump
05:10
better be worried in all this but i i
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think this is going to be the same as
05:14
all of this other stuff the ukraine
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phone call the mueller investigation
05:19
all of this stuff is just doing whatever
05:21
they can do whatever they can come
05:23
across whatever they can find that can
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be twisted
05:26
in any way shape or form i personally
05:29
doubt steve bannon who is not
05:32
poor uh who wasn’t apparently even
05:36
according to the negative reporting
05:37
coming out of the mainstream media
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wasn’t
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paying himself a salary he was covering
05:41
expenses
05:43
um i just don’t see him you know
05:47
that he’s such in such desperate needs
05:50
of money that that he really did all of
05:52
that stuff
05:53
now the legitimate expenses i mean if
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he’s having
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while he’s out trying to collect money
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has to go to a meeting here there and
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all that
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travel expenses and you know hotel and
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food and
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basically per diem expenses all of those
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are
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perfectly legitimate expenses that
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almost everyone does
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even if they don’t take a salary so i
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i tend to suspect some sort of
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manipulation of the information out
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there and
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what he came out and said was steve
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bannon was publicly
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but it hit this morning but he just said
06:22
this is you know by people who don’t
06:24
want the wall built which
06:25
struck me as kind of a lame comment but
06:27
that’s what he said
06:29
president trump on the other hand first
06:30
of all steve bannon had left
06:33
working for the nsc had not was not
06:34
working for the government wasn’t
06:35
working for trump wasn’t working for the
06:37
campaign
06:38
at any of those things they were
06:39
completely cut
06:41
they not that they don’t have a friendly
06:43
relationship but all that had stopped
06:44
the professional end of it
06:46
had ended and uh steve bannon went out
06:49
on with all this on his own
06:51
the president according to the president
06:53
uh which were also comments that were
06:54
published this morning
06:56
he said look you know i heard about this
06:58
thing didn’t like it because it’s
07:00
you know not government it’s not private
07:02
it’s just some sort of
07:03
mix and i told them you know i don’t
07:05
like this whole idea if that’s what
07:06
you’re gonna do go do it but you know
07:08
i’m not involved
07:09
and if you look back the president was
07:11
never the one coming out and supporting
07:13
this
07:13
he never came out and said oh you know
07:15
support this this non-profit to build a
07:17
wall
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so i think the hands of the president
07:21
are completely clean on this he had
07:22
never
07:23
had anything to do with it directly i
07:25
think it was a
07:26
a thing by steve bannon and why he got
07:29
involved in that
07:30
maybe he just believed strongly in the
07:32
wall don’t know i
07:33
like i say i would be tend to be
07:35
surprised if he really you know he’s
07:37
kind of a sloppy guy so maybe he bent
07:39
some of the rules a little bit but
07:40
probably more out of the
07:41
just kind of his natural state of being
07:44
than like going oh
07:45
i can steal you know five thousand
07:47
dollars over there for my
07:48
new haircut or whatever which steve you
07:52
can do some helping that everybody
07:53
and at any rate the other aspect of this
07:57
i also find very interesting is where he
07:59
was arrested
08:01
and so they wait to arrest him because
08:03
of course
08:04
once they get to that point they’re
08:05
surveilling him i mean how would you
08:07
know somebody’s out on a yacht
08:09
and that’s where he got arrested the
08:10
yacht belongs to guo i think is how it’s
08:13
pronounced guo
08:14
ed who is basically a chinese oligarch
08:17
anti-communist
08:18
and that guy and steve bannon have been
08:21
working on some things to expose
08:23
chinese corruption and things that
08:26
they’re doing in the united states so
08:27
it’s actually been a fairly effective
08:29
program and and that guy
08:31
that chinese oligarch who owned the
08:33
yacht and steve bannon have been working
08:35
on that so that was a natural thing for
08:37
them to
08:38
meet and certainly a yacht out you know
08:40
out in the ocean is a great place to
08:41
have
08:42
private conversations away from you know
08:44
eavesdropping or
08:45
electronic collection means things like
08:47
that so uh
08:48
why they he would be arrested while he
08:50
was on a yacht and they even report
08:52
in the press reporting that he was
08:54
arrested having a sunburn
08:56
and so i find that very suspicious i
08:58
think they’re trying to
08:59
you know arrest him at a moment where
09:01
it’s it’s
09:02
done for appearances to make him
09:05
look bad and if you look back i i
09:08
hearkened back
09:09
to uh uh some of the guys that were
09:12
arrested that had uh
09:13
uh worked with uh president trump in the
09:16
campaign and
09:17
you know they were going to the guy the
09:19
one guy’s house in the middle of the
09:20
night and arrested him at
09:22
two or three o’clock in the morning with
09:23
12 vehicles and all these guys and dogs
09:26
and arms and just
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you know and the older guy just you know
09:29
would have come out and turned himself
09:31
in if they’d asked him to do it
09:32
and yet they arrested him that way and
09:34
the cnn news crew happened to be staking
09:37
out the property just in case
09:39
and so the whole thing was filmed and
09:40
put out on the news i think this is a
09:42
repeat of that and that’s one of the
09:44
reasons i’m so suspicious
09:46
of this whole thing from the very
09:47
beginning i doubt there’s anything very
09:49
serious in there against steve bannon
09:51
we’ll see uh but certainly the timing
09:54
and the place of arrest you’ve got to
09:57
question i think it clearly shows
10:00
uh a political uh acts to grind behind
10:03
the scenes on how all this was done
10:05
the other aspect of this and final point
10:08
on this is
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u.s attorney general barr has not
10:11
weighed in on this
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i don’t know how it works for the post
10:15
office
10:16
to be arresting them i don’t know if
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their
10:19
authorities are under department of
10:21
justice but that’s an interesting
10:23
question
10:24
it again is an area of of
10:27
that i find suspect because if the post
10:30
office was selected to do this
10:32
in order to get out from under u.s
10:35
attorney general barr
10:36
who’s clearly been cracking down on
10:39
these
10:40
politically motivated arrests versus
10:43
you know being motivated by just
10:44
straight up criminal activity
10:46
i i wonder about all of that aspect of
10:48
it and of course the u.s attorney
10:50
general bar hasn’t weighed in on any of
10:52
this yet
10:52
i don’t know if it’s appropriate for him
10:54
to do so that’s another aspect of this
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that i find very interesting
10:58
that specifically it was the post office
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not that they were inappropriate to do
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it
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just that the post office was selected
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because we see these
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uh these politically motivated aspects
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of it to the timing
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and which i find very suspicious and the
11:12
fact that he was arrested on this yacht
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which is also clearly i think meant to
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embarrass
11:17
us steve bannon so i the whole thing
11:19
stinks i think it’s going to be another
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mueller investigation but
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uh well time will tell we’ll see also i
11:25
mean i just read this
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i can’t even cite the source so i don’t
11:28
know if it’s true or not but
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what i had read was that the total
11:32
amount of money in question was well
11:34
below
11:35
the three or four percent which is fully
11:36
allowable for a not-for-profit
11:40
yes i think that’s true as well and so
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it it it
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just it makes the whole thing look like
11:45
it’s politically motivated versus some
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sort of criminal thing
11:49
and uh like i said i you know the these
11:52
guys involved i don’t know the others
11:54
the other three people i think there
11:55
were four indictments total
11:57
uh i but this the steve bannon i mean
12:00
he’s not a poor guy
12:02
and you know he wasn’t making huge
12:03
amounts of money off of this
12:06
and as you say the amounts out of the
12:07
total were quite small
12:09
and there’s always a an allowable fudge
12:11
amount in there and
12:13
if it went off to another nonprofit and
12:14
that non-profit paid people salaries i
12:17
don’t know that that’s necessarily
12:19
illegal so you know not my area of
12:22
expertise clearly but you know all that
12:24
has to be pounded out and we’ll see how
12:26
it goes but i
12:27
i don’t like i say i just don’t see uh
12:30
this
12:30
that steve bannon is in any great
12:32
trouble and i think that the press
12:34
trying to link this to president trump
12:36
is just pure bs it’s the usual stuff it
12:39
just looked at it as like
12:40
that ukraine phone call which was
12:42
nothing uh which is all perfectly
12:45
legal and moral and ethical and all
12:47
those sorts of things
12:49
i think it’s just another thing like
12:50
that they’re taking something fairly
12:52
normal
12:53
maybe not perfect but fairly normal and
12:55
trying to taint it as some evil thing
12:57
and they’re out there
12:58
talking about oh this guy was
13:00
recommended for indictment and that guy
13:01
for investigation and this and that and
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the other
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trying to make it look like some sort of
13:06
you know criminal cabal
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where it’s all bs it’s just it’s it’s
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all politically motivated
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bs by corrupt u.s government officials
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who are willing to
13:16
support the democratic party and prison
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and the uh democratic uh uh
13:22
biden you know a candidate and all this
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sort of stuff i
13:26
i it’s just it’s stinky the whole thing
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is just stinky
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