Americans for Intelligence Reform

Brad Johnson, President, and retired CIA Senior Officer and Chief of Staff. Insight into current events from an intelligence angle.

Brad Johnson interviewed on PIJN’s Dr Chaps

Various topics including intelligence reform and the Chinese Communist Party’s handling of COVID19.

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the government of china is now
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obfuscating
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their coronavirus reporting they might
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not even be testing their citizens
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for the spread of the virus today we
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interviewed covid19 which has now become
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a global pandemic
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but if they are no longer testing their
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citizens
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for coronavirus that means it’s going to
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spread everywhere
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among a billion people in china
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and the united states is not
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as cnn reported the number one
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country in the world with cases and
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deaths because
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china probably is nobody knows because
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they’re no longer testing welcome to the
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program
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bradley johnson who is an xcia operative
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who leads the organization intel
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reform.org
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bradley welcome to the program introduce
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yourself to our audience
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dr chap so wonderful to speak with you
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uh yes bradley johnson 25 years the
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agency i was in the
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operational cadre which is the overseas
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cadre that does the
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espionage portion of the work that’s
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done at the cia so
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uh that’s my background and now i’m
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president of an organization called as
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you said americans for intelligence
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reform
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and one of our main goals is to
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see the president re-elected now because
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what has happened is the intelligence
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community has been politicized and
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weaponized to use against him now we’re
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also supporters of the president
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but we’re also very much against the
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intelligence community being weaponized
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and politicized
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regardless of who’s president because
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that takes us down the wrong
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track that’s third world and we just
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can’t have it here in the united states
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so
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those are some of the principal founding
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reasons for americans for intelligence
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reform
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i’m totally in support of that mission
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as an ex-intelligence officer myself in
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the u.s air force i was a major in
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the j-2 directorate of u.s spacecom and
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norad intelligence
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i worked every day with people like you
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at dia nsa
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cia and i had a fascinating career top
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secret clearance but
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i so much respect the real spies i was
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never a spy but
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apparently you were in charge of a bunch
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of those and you’ve seen it all
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well i certainly have seen a great deal
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there’s no question whatsoever and yeah
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spying is you know espionage is
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essentially spying so
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as far as you know spotting assessing
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developing and recruiting
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spies for the united states of america
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uh yeah that
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that i have pretty much seen that from
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top to bottom and managed large programs
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of that nature and
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personally been involved in many many
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activities of that nature
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covert action programs the the whole
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gambit well what is
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your observation now of this report
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coming out of china i’m reading on
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bloomberg dot com
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that china has now stopped testing their
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own
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citizens for coronavirus and that means
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i think uh well you tell me what it
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means
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well i i think there’s the one steady
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component of this whole thing that we
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can all count on from the very beginning
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of this and that is that china is lying
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to us
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they’re uh lying about every aspect of
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this they’re covering up the number of
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people that have died they’re covering
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up
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uh how many are sick they’re just
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they’re covering up every aspect of this
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so
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any information coming out of china at
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best can be used sort of to
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report as a trend now what china is
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reporting now this doesn’t get so much
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to the united states
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but on the world stage they’re doing a
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couple of things one of them is that
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they’re reporting that essentially
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the disease is over for them so
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therefore
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uh they can stop doing all of the
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testing and so on so it
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is a propaganda tool from their
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perspective so
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that’s how they’re playing this now uh
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they’ve they’ve then used that to move
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outward and start to supply aid
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to other countries who are suffering
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from this uh wuhan virus
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and so that’s again all part of how
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they’re playing this in propaganda
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and sort of the third level of that
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specific what they’re do
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specific to what they’re doing is
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they’re now trying to blame the united
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states of america for the virus to begin
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with now
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all of that is false i mean you know
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where there is any truth in any of it
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it’s hard to say but i think i heard
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what you’re saying is
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that china is lying they are under
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reporting and they say oh
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we’re done we don’t have any more cases
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when united states
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intelligence reports coming out of china
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our own spy agencies
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three different agents have reported to
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bloomberg
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and other sources without attribution
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they have to speak anonymously because
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it’s classified information
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that china still is incu encountering
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the wuhan virus is still spreading among
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their population
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so how can they claim to be safe when
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they are exporting products
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or people are going back to the
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factories they’re still making
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plastics and glass and steel products
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that are being sold on amazon
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or exported to the united states how can
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they certify that they’re
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being a safe nation when they’ve lied
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about
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stopping the testing of their own
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populace
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yes well i i think the answer to that is
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very straightforward they cannot i mean
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uh we just simply can’t trust it i i
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would
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expect that you can pretty much take any
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number that they give you as far as
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infections go and add a zero at the back
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end of it
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and be closer to the truth in whatever
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they’re saying so
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yes you cannot count on their
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information as being true
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yes exactly i think 10 times the number
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of deaths and 10 times the number of
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people
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sick is far closer to the truth than
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what china’s telling us
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we’re going to take a short break when
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we come back we’ll have more with
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bradley johnson
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on how we can reform the intelligence
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community to make it less political
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this is p i j n news defending your
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religious freedom
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welcome back i’m dr chaff joined again
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by bradley johnson xcia operative leader
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of
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intelreform.org
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bradley i’m concerned now because u.s
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senator
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ben sasse of nebraska has come out
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and rebuked the chinese and actually
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rebuked cnn
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who was reporting chinese propaganda
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and the leftist mantra that the united
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states is the most dangerous most deadly
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most coronavirus in the world in blaming
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trump for this
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but when the truth is according to
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senator ben sasse that
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china remains number one they’re just
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not reporting it because they have
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stopped testing their citizens
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yes i would be uh i think there was a
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great deal of irresponsibility on the
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part of the chinese and
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and many many layers to how that
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that irresponsibility is applied but
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just on
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on you raise a very important point and
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yes
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cnn was rebuked but i would widen that
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net a little if i
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could and say basically who in the
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mainstream
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media is reporting this fairly and i
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don’t think you see anyone
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on the left whether it’s the university
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system which is an important part of
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this
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because of the science aspects which we
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all know has been long controlled by the
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left
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the mainstream media again long
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controlled by the left and the
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democratic party which has been consumed
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by the extreme left
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so all of those groups
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are acting in conjunction and in a sort
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of
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informal uh cooperation with china
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and so you see china’s message being
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picked up and sent by them
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and the reason being i think is because
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the left is unified in the sense that
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they all hate
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trump so using this as an excuse or a
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club to beat trump with
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is the whole goal and we’ve seen that
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you know time after time after time this
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the mueller investigation the ukraine
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phone call any little item that they can
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find
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that they can use to try to criticize
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trump that’s what they’re trying to do
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so uh basically we’re in a situation
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where
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the university reporting the that on the
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science issues the mainstream media
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reporting on the news of it
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and the democratic party who only wants
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to attack trump
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anything they say we all know you can’t
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believe it you can’t trust it
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because what are they going to say if if
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trump would
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push a button and cure this virus they
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would blame him for something else i
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mean
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overpopulation or something they would
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come up with some reason to criticize
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the president
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so there’s just nothing that’s going to
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be done where he will be
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treated fairly by any of those three
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groups so for them to pick up and run
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the run with the ball with the chinese
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that’s who they are so they’re never
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going to report the truth because
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the truth is all bad for china
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well and now u.s congressman adam schiff
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who led the impeachment hearings and
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he’s chairman of the house intel
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committee
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he said we’re going to open another
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investigation against trump for how he
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has mishandled the coronavirus briefings
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meanwhile trump’s
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popularity ratings are now skyrocketing
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he’s up to 60 percent all the
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independents are with him
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all the republicans are with him but
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only 27
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approval rating among democrats so why
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would
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adam schiff now try to open another
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round of impeachment hearings or
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investigating the president
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over the mishandling of the corona
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crisis
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well uh i think the democrats are faced
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with a terrible problem and that
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terrible problem
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is u.s attorney general barr and u.s
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attorney john durham’s investigation
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into the fisa fiasco and that now
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people don’t recognize often that the
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fisa document is not just a law
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enforcement document it’s actually more
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of an intelligence an intelligence
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community document
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because what it does is it it takes
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information that originates with the
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intelligence community
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and there’s a handshake between the
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intelligence community and law
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enforcement
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and then law enforcement picks up this
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case whatever it may be
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and runs with it so that intelligence
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document that was given to a judge to
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get all of these
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original fisa warrants was based on
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intelligence that’s why it’s
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more principally better described as a
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an intelligence document
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rather than a law enforcement document
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so what they did
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again this politization of the
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intelligence community
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played itself out there all of those
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things that they did
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were highly illegal and that is going to
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come out in this report
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and it’s going to be devastating to the
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democratic party
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so they have to build a way to defend
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themselves and the only way to defend
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themselves
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is to constantly attack president trump
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no matter how
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unfairly they’re better off attacking
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him through any means
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than letting things just run forward so
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i was an intel officer
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during the 9 11 attacks we’re going back
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to
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2001 when right after that president
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bush
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initiated the patriot act and for a
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while there
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they were allowed to spy on foreign
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communications that come
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into america and there was some question
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of whether or not that violated the
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fourth amendment
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senator rand paul congressman jim
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sensenbrenner with whom i met
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were opposed to violating the fourth
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amendment of the constitution to spy on
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americans
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but we did that anyway that led to
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abuses during the obama era
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of spying on americans under the guise
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of what they called
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for fisa warrants in other words foreign
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intelligence surveillance act
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that law was set up the foreign
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intelligence surveillance court
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to authorize secret hearings against
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americans
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without even their knowledge without
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their presence
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the obama administration was spying on
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americans listening eavesdropping on
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their conversations if they had a
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warrant from a secret judge in a secret
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court
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now we fast forward to 2020. the trump
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administration
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has been trying to fight the coronavirus
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but they are also having to fight what
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some call the deep state operatives
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within the intelligence community that
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still exists today
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are there operatives do you believe and
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and
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without specific knowledge i don’t want
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you to divulge anything classified that
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you may know
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but are there democrat operatives in the
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cia
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that are fighting against trump so in
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your opinion are there deep state
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operatives
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in the cia that are now opposing
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president trump
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oh yes i mean there’s just no question
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whatsoever i think your question
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actually understates the full scope of
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the problem
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and i i think i mean there’s certain
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things we can all agree upon
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uh former director cia director john
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brennan
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who by the way you were mentioning the
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spying he was actually caught spying on
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congress
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recording their phone calls denied it
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lied about it was later caught doing it
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and had to publicly apologize
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so that same john brennan as we know is
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one of the greatest detractors of
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president trump and
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and appears to very personally hate him
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a great deal
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now the leadership at the cia are all of
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those same people that were the main
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lieutenants under john brennan
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they’re the main lieutenants now with
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the current director
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gina haspel of the cia who was also
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herself a close
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uh friend of director brennan
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in fact when senator mccain john mccain
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from arizona
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died gina haspel went to the funeral
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with john brennan
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they’re very close personal friends and
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i’m sure that there are personal
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discussions taking place between them
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and who knows what they might be
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discussing but not only is it the
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leadership
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it’s the entire pipeline to leadership
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within all of these federal agencies
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they’re all very dedicated leftists
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who hate president trump and we’re going
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to take a short break
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when we come back we’ll have more with
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bradley johnson on how we can reform
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the intelligence community to make it
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less political dr chaps joined again by
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xcia operative bradley johnson who leads
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intel reform.org bradley we’ve
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identified the problem first of all
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china is lying to us
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cnn is lying to us the democrats on the
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intel committee are lying to us
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they’re trying to politicize this and
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now we may have a deep state problem
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within the intelligence community that
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is opposing the re-election of donald
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trump for political purposes
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what is the solution how can we reform
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the intelligence community to be
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non-partisan if there is such a thing
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well it’s it’s an extraordinarily
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difficult problem to be faced with
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because they’ve become so entrenched
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over the last couple of decades that
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it’s a
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it’s a serious problem and all many of
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these political issues that we’re seeing
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today
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are the results of that effort to
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consolidate their control over the
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federal these federal government
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agencies so it’s going to be an uphill
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battle
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i don’t know that anyone has the
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political will to actually even
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face this problem but i can tell you
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some of the solutions
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one of them would be to change how the
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polygraph is done for those people who
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have
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high level uh clearances for the top
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secret
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the tssci full scope poly for those
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people that have that clearance these
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are the people that would be at the
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highest levels of
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nsc fbi cia nsc
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these people part of the questioning
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needs to be
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to ask them questions along the lines
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of what is more important to you your
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oath to defend the constitution of the
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united states
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or your personal political beliefs which
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take precedent
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will you be an activist doing whatever
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it is you think is important
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or will you be a loyal citizen of the
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united states supporting and defending
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the constitution of the united states
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that line of questioning would need to
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be broken down into a number of
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questions
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but that could be included in every
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polygraph test with the snap of a
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fingers
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and that would begin to eliminate a lot
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of the worst of those people
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the second half of that that i would
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implement as in the federal government
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the way promotions are handled
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is very carefully controlled so that
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race color creed
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all those sorts of issues don’t come
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into play so you’re unable to see
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who these people are all you see is
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their record so that they can be judged
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on their record and
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fairly promoted now that’s good but the
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problem is
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the way that the promotions are tied to
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the job that you have
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and where the trip comes in and the way
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that the left has completely
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consolidated control
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over these federal agencies is through
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those who’s assigned
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what job and that that is
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been corrupted so in order to get
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promoted you have to have certain jobs
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but to get into that job so that you can
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be promoted
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they control that manipulate that and
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they only put in their political cronies
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the final point i would make on all of
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this that so that therefore has to be
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done in such a way that they cannot play
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those games and pick their own little
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cronies
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to put into all of these jobs it has to
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be done fairly
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like the promotions are so that people
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are judged on merit
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not their political bias or loyalty to a
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certain political party
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the final area of this would be in the
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hiring practices
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and i’ll mention the fbi not because i’m
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particularly picking on the fbi but
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because they’re more open in their
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hiring practices some of their
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questioning for new
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prospective candidates to be hired are
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things like
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do you want to be a justice warrior well
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what does that mean what that means is
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they’re asking are you a liberal
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democrat or not
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so if you answer no i don’t really want
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to be a social justice warrior
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i want to defend and uphold the
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constitution united states
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they don’t hire you if you say yes i
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want to be a social justice warrior
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then you get hired so i mean those three
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areas are all
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horrible problems that need to be
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overcome and as i said i i
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don’t know if anyone has the political
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will
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to face all of this take it on and start
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making these corrections
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but now the left would would would clow
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cry bloody murder over these sorts of
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things but these are the things that
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need to be done
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and these people cannot be trusted in
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positions of authority in government
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and the reason they cannot be trusted is
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because
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their personal political beliefs take
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precedent over the constitution and the
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national security of the united states
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i totally understand the difference and
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that personnel
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is policy and what i mean by that is
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the people that you hire to hire the
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people that you want
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the hiring people the hr director
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essentially of the cia or
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fbi as you were tank they can bias
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the troops by only hiring leftists
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and social justice warriors as you’re
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saying that
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have democrat leaning affiliation of
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course eventually
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the entire agency is going to oppose a
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republican
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administration even if he appoints top
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level spies like uh secretary mike
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pompeo over the cia now the secretary of
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state
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there’s only so much the top-level
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bureaucrats or the
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administration appointees can do to
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penetrate the deep state
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and replace that personnel is policy
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we’re out of time but i’d like i’ll give
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you the last word what’s your website
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uh my website is uh it’s the
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the organization’s americans for
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intelligence reform the website is
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intelreform.org i can also be followed
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on youtube
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at uh brad johnson air
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and on facebook americans for
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intelligence reform
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amen to that i’m dr chaps and our
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website is prayingjesusname.org
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you
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