An in-depth look at current events focusing on the escalation of rioting in the U.S. How bleak is the immediate future? Analysis from several angles with Brad Johnson on the McFiles Network with Christopher McDonald. Brad Johnson is a retired CIA Operative and Station Chief of 25 years who brings his unique perspective to domestic and world events. He now devotes his life to his non-profit, Americans for Intelligence Reform. We hope you subscribe, support and follow AIR.
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and a good tuesday evening everyone
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chris mcdonald with another special live
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backfile
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early bird special we are always honored
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to have this gentleman with us right
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here is
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popping in the screen right now the one
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and only former cia operative brad
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johnson intel intelreform.org is his
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website i was just complimenting him
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on his website and uh there is rumor
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that elvis is the one that designed it
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but there’s no proof to that so i’m not
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sure if that’s true or not
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but uh if elvis did i just want to
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congratulate him
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i didn’t know he was a web designer
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johnson but uh you know i guess you got
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to put him to you somehow being him that
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he’s hid behind your
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back there and that uh that that little
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door by the way folks
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it if he presses a button that thing you
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know
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cia turn around it does that
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it’s good to see you buddy how are you
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tonight
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doing very well thank you great to speak
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with you again great to see with you man
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i just i
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leave me and brad known each other two
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years now and uh
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if we just developed a friendship we
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always
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give each other jazz about different
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things and he’s always a good sport and
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i’m glad he is
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because he’s a former cia guy right i
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mean i’m glad he is uh hey buddy uh good
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stuff i
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wa at all jokes aside um i want to uh
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talk to you a great website you got an
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interesting article on there i’m gonna
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talk about first and i’ll get more to
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domestic things
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uh since i’ve talked to you last it was
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a historic agreement
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uh between israel and the uae
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and uh that was very powerful i thought
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for the middle east i talked to some
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people in jerusalem and they
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looked at that agreement most favorably
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i’ve not heard a lot of negativity about
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it of course
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the only group that’s left out of that
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deal is palestinians which
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i’m not saying a lot of tears about that
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being that you know they’re
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head of the palestinian authorities
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hamas a terrorist organization that’s
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financed by iran and other
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thug uh terrorist nations but uh
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the middle east fear complicated place
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but you see something developing between
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turkey greece and israel on the horizon
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and a lot of that may depend on
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ederergen because he’s very islamic but
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what does brad johnson see in this
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because you see a union
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or ax is perhaps developing in that
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region of the world between those
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nations that’s interesting
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well yes i mean there’s certain problems
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developing i mean
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the the origin of the problem is now
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turkish president erdogan
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president of turkey believes that
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all of the regions that had been
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formally conquered by the ottoman empire
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under islamic law legitimately are his
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and uh turkey is country that does not
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produce its own energy they don’t have
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oil and gas deposits and those sort of
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things so they need it and
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the parallel that i would make is to uh
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japan in uh before world war
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ii and they were in the same position
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they needed those resources
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and didn’t have them and particularly
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when they at the same time wanted to
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aggressively expand
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so that is a one-for-one situation with
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what we see today in turkey
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erdogan clearly wants to aggressively
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expand
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but he needs those energy resources to
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fuel
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the process so the closest ones that are
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there
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are in the seas around the greek islands
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and in the greek
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controlled area of the mediterranean so
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what he did
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was he went into libya and the general
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haftar the forces that are
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the that are resisting the this
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government that’s basically a muslim
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brotherhood
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fairly radical islamic government uh but
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they are
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supported by the eu you know they’re
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recognized by the united states and the
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eu
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kind of out of respect for turkey
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but half tar forces were going to
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completely wipe them out and turkey
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stepped in at the last
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moment to you know pull them out of the
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fire so to speak and so now they’re
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fighting back
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and and with turkish support and troops
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and equipment they’re doing
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much better than they were so turkey
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then made a deal with libya and if if
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you were to look at a map
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they they made a deal that the the ocean
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between them the mediterranean sea
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between them
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they split in half which basically the
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only problem with that theory is that
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in that ocean between them lies grease
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and so
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basically based on this treaty that
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they’ve done with libya
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they legitimize in their own eyes this
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claim
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to the on these these waters in around
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greece as their own plus and you know
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within the religion the
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islamic point of view is that this was
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once conquered by them before it still
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belongs to them
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so the problem with this is the bottom
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line is that erdogan is fully convinced
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of the legitimacy
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and the and his moral uh correctness
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in claiming those for himself so he’s
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going to go get him the problem is of
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course greece is going to defend himself
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there’s always been
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there’s already been a couple of close
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calls in the area
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where the turkish navy came into that
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area
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and the greeks responded sending out
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their own navy now the greeks then
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turned around in the back or it would
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have already been started a naval battle
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right there
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and so we’ve already been closed so uh
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the eu
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of which greece is a member is backing
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greece now european union is not
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famously a group that just
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jumps into action but nevertheless they
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are backing greece in this conflict
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interesting
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turkey kind of stands on its own now
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turkey’s being very aggressive
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in a lot of other areas which we can go
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into as well but
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they’re actually fighting in different
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places where you know they’re actually
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shooting and people are getting killed
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on a relatively small scale but
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certainly syria and azerbaijan and
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nagorno-karabakh
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and these other areas libya and so on
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but in this particular case
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they are they have to go after these
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resources
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and you’re going to see basically the
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rest of the world line up to stop them i
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mean
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western europe and i don’t know what the
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united states position will be because
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uh since turkey while not a member of
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the eu
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they are a member of nato nato they
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applied for eu membership and all of
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that but
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based on what erdogan has done on human
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rights issues they’ve basically been
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thrown off
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the list and are not under consideration
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anymore there’s no longer any
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serious uh negotiations taking place
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there so
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uh basically it boils down to everyone
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wants what they have
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and he’s fully dedicated himself to
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taking it
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and greece just cannot allow their
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sovereignty to be
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invaded so they’re going to have to
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fight
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and uh this is one of those times now
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where i think the page is turned
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uh germany has gone in on a shuttle
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mission to try and
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create some sort of diplomatic solution
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to this problem but i think it’s
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it’s past that stage and i don’t see any
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way around fighting at this point i mean
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we can all hope i mean there’s a lot of
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other things that could happen
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but right now i don’t think it’s so much
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a question as
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if as much as it is when i think that
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there’s going to be
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a naval confrontation in that area uh
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initially between the greeks and the and
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the
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turks uh the greek navy and military
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uh probably i i mean i don’t know about
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their training and haven’t looked at
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their ships and so on but
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militarily turkey is is the larger force
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and will hold most of the carbs in any
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sort of confrontation
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and uh certainly they can do a lot of
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other things
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uh that’s you know non-conventional
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fighting
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like releasing hordes of migrants
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you know these these refugees that they
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have and and turn them loose heading
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into europe and things to cause
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chaos i would plan i would expect i
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would say if a confrontation begins
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that you’ll see these unconventional
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warfare techniques be used as well
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so i don’t at least believe at this
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point that we’re going to see this
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expand into uh
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world war iii or anything of that nature
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nor would i think
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do i believe it would expand into a
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larger european war
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and what level the eu would support
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greece i don’t know would they be
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willing to send their navies
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you know i tend to think not but i just
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don’t know
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so uh we’ll see certainly they’ll become
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condemnation of turkey
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turkey by itself i don’t know how
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sustained
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uh you know an effort military effort
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could be by them because their economy
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is tanking because of all of these
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harsh measures yes turkey’s taken under
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erdogan so
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uh it it there’s a some level of balance
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to all of this i think
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greece would get more support turkey
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would run out of money
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so how sustained could this battle be i
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think it would be limited
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uh but then that gives rise to the
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possibility of turkey seeking out allies
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turkey does have a lot of they’re like
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frenemies
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kind of if you take iran and turkey
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together
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so they have areas of conflict and they
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have areas of cooperation
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and one of the things that they’re
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looking at turkey is energies
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as an energy source working with iran so
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could they become
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allies to a stronger degree don’t know
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it’s a possibility
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uh one of the things that just sort of
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tickling away in the back of my mind now
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they’re not in the picture not in the
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battle
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but china is certainly aggressive
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they’re expansionist
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and you could you could take a look at
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the two uh
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and kind of compare them to the nazi
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germany
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and the imperialist japan and and take a
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look and kind of compare
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uh turkey and and china today’s china to
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those two so
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you could see where they would be in
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some ways natural allies and of course
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china has far more natural resources and
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other things they may
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they may look at this as as a
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possibility of some sort of
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cooperation there as well now that’s
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very speculative
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yeah you know i don’t see that happening
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right now but just looking at who would
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turkey turn to
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and russia is again one of those kind of
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frenemy countries they cooperate in some
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levels
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and don’t and others but they’ve also
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had three major wars in their history
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too they don’t trust
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each other one last final point i’ll
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make on this i’ve been talking about
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this
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as a problem and turkey growing as a
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threat for a very long time
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now finally the world’s catching up and
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that was
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what happened is mossad the head of
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mossad came out in the last few days
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and said that turkey has now become a
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long-term national security threat
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and they’re doing all these things that
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i’ve been talking about the mossad has
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now come up publicly and stated all of
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that
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so uh everybody in the region
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recognizes it and i will say i believe
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that one of the reasons that what you
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initially mentioned
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this deal that has been made peace
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between israel and the united arab
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emirates
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is in part a result
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of them watching turkey become more and
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more aggressive because
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they conquered all the arab countries
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and ran them
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with a pretty you know with a with a
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boot hill on the neck i mean the ottoman
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empire
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they were not a friendly you know type
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of
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of conquerors so uh i think that is
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impetus a lot of the arab countries are
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pushing back you see
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uh arab countries like egypt for example
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is confronting
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turkey in libya and they are supporting
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the haftar forces
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against the back regime in in the
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capital of tripoli so
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it is it it is poised
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to be able to draw in other countries
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in a larger context uh i like i said i
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don’t see it going that way right now
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but it could so that’s the danger
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uh minor conflict growing regionally at
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least taking in
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some arab countries and perhaps some
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european countries which
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then it starts to be very dangerous so
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that’s kind of my worry with turkey
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yeah well you answered both questions
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because uh the israeli connection
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was uh this whole uae thing
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is great i mean i i think most people
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that i’ve talked to
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in jerusalem like in in not not the
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pundits not the political folks not the
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news media but the people in israel
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uh to a person they told me they said
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look we
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we don’t trust we don’t trust the saudis
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as far as we can throw them but
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uh for economics for tourism for
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uh just the sake of having one less
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enemy in the middle east and as we all
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know israel don’t have any friends to
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begin with
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uh they said this is a good deal and uh
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i had ziva londo on the show here a few
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weeks ago he’s called the jerusalem
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warrior and is for good reason he’s
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called that he was a fighter
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uh in the military for years but he’s a
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patriot he loves the country loves
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israel
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and uh i jokingly asked him i said what
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uh
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where does this leave everybody and he
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said well he said it don’t leave us
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really in any different place but he
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said something and i’ll share it on the
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show and i shared it
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on another show i was on today he said
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he said i put it like this he said if
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iran attacked israel tomorrow
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he said the saudis are not coming to our
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rescue nobody’s coming to our rescue the
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uae is not going to jump into this
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skirmish
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and then he leaned into the camera like
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xevi does with that force and he says
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he said but i’m gonna go ahead and tell
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you something he said i may sound a
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little arrogant
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he said israel don’t need the saudis
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he said we don’t need them to win this
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war
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and you sort of added the missing piece
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to me tonight because it makes total
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sense that
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turkey would be the reason why they
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would be
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looking for another ally
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because brad to me turkey is just as
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dangerous as iran right now it is
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under utter john’s leadership this man
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is a jihadist i mean he’s not
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he’s he’s looks he’s almost to me like a
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mini saddam hussein without the power
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saddam had
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but he’s he’s the saddam wannabe he
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wants to be
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that islamic jihadist force in the
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middle east
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and am i far off on that you you’re sort
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of more
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in depth on this than i would be i’m
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just curious am i am i
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close on that analysis of him what he’s
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after there
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yes i believe you are i mean certainly
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he’s uh
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it’s well established that he’s
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basically
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uh kind of taken over management of the
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muslim brotherhood yes
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uh so it’s an arm of his efforts and the
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grey wolves and these radical groups
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like this are they’re working so hard in
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europe to
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you know give give him greater control
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in europe and of course with the
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long-term goal of
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reestablishing the ottoman empire or
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creating a
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a neo-ottoman empire if you if you
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prefer
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uh and let’s not forget that i mean
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turkey actually had
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if you count turkey as part of europe
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which some people do some people right
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but if you count it as part of europe
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turkey has the largest standing army of
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europe that’s right
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and that’s right that’s not something to
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ignore and of course their people do
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have a
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tradition of a warrior tradition if you
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will fighting
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so uh it’s something that i i would say
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that
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they’re not you know they would they’re
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willing to do those sorts of things
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and erdogan has been playing on this
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for a very long time and if you look at
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what’s going on in turkey today for
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example
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a lot of the terms and phraseology now i
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don’t speak turkey so i’m but i do get
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this from
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friends of mine who are turkish and one
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of the things that he’s been doing is
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reintroducing
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a lot of the terms used that popularized
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during the ottoman empire
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he’s re introducing them into popular
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culture
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today and if you look at for example
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when he has state meetings high-level
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state meetings where
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where a prime minister or president of
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another country comes to visit turkey
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he has these meetings in front of this
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palace that he built
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i may be mistaken but i believe it’s
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also the largest palace
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presidential palace in the world with 1
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000 rooms
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and he has these meetings and all of
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these photo ops in front of this place
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and all the guards behind him are
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dressed in the garb
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of different periods from the ottoman
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empire so i mean he’s
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clearly playing to all of these things
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and really
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trying to build that spirit back into
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turkey
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uh and i think i think it’s one of those
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things where
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it’s it’s there’s the old saying that i
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don’t know if people recognize it today
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so often as they used to be but
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you know it still just is true and that
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is that absolute power
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corrupts absolutely that’s true i think
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that’s precisely what we see here
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that this man has gotten so uh
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intoxicated on his own power that he
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sees no end to it
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and uh i think he honestly believes that
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what the ottoman empire owned in its
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at its widest area of influence
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belongs to him legitimately and by god
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he’s gonna go get it
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and uh i there’s only one way to achieve
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all of that that’s war
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so that’s why i say and that and the
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closest place to war i mean
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he’s fighting battles now yeah i mean
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he’s fighting in syria
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he’s fighting in libya he’s fighting in
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azerbaijan
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so mean he’s already fighting in those
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areas but the where you really have
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somebody that can defend that would be
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actual kind of military to military
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combat
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of two the two main countries the
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belligerents
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i think would be uh in the greek waters
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so
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it’s a it’s a problem worth looking at i
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mean we need to pay attention
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i was gonna that’s my next question and
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then we’ll get off this subject move on
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to something else more domestic
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uh where does the united states fall in
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this because
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we got to be we’ve got to be concerned
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about turkey too
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i would think that they pose not
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you know as far as iran goes look trump
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has taken the teeth out of the line when
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it comes to iran i mean trump is
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look they they do not have a friend in
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the white house like they did with
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barack obama let’s just say this that
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there are no family reunions at 1600
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pennsylvania avenue with the iranians
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when they come to visit dc
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there was no family get together there’s
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no family getting together now with
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like they was with the obamas the trumps
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don’t play that game
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but turkey’s another ball game because
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you mentioned the nato tie
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and they’re part of nato and look that
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puts the united states in a sort of a
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tight place there because we have to
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negotiate we got a lot of
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you know uh things tied up with nato
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with them
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where do we stand with this do we what
19:44
do you think this leads in our foreign
19:46
policy
19:49
yes i think you’ve kind of outlined
19:51
precisely the conundrum that we find
19:53
ourselves in
19:54
uh and president trump has certain
19:57
attitudes towards it that
19:58
have kind of put us here which i’m not
20:02
sure exactly where that is but
20:04
you’re exactly right uh turkey as a
20:07
member of
20:07
nato has sort of automatically gotten a
20:10
lot of backing out of the united states
20:12
and president trump
20:13
and president trump pulled out of for
20:16
the most part
20:17
has pulled out of syria and just and his
20:20
comments on it i think were
20:21
were truthful i i you know the the
20:23
leftist calls president trump this grand
20:25
liard he’s always lying lying lying and
20:27
all of this but if you actually
20:29
listen to president trump i think he’s a
20:30
very straight shooter
20:32
kind of says it really truly as he views
20:34
it and one of the things he said about
20:36
syria is like
20:37
is said look these guys have been
20:39
fighting for a thousand years you know
20:41
us being there not being there’s not
20:43
going to change that so
20:44
let’s just back off and let them fight
20:46
it out so i think president trump has a
20:48
little bit of a
20:49
you can call it an isolationist flare
20:52
and so he doesn’t want to get involved
20:54
in these battles that are just going to
20:56
go on forever so
20:58
uh i think what we have right now is a
21:01
fairly hands-off
21:03
position with turkey because turkey is
21:06
like i said the largest standing army in
21:08
europe if you count them as part of
21:10
europe
21:10
and that cannot be ignored and if they
21:14
become completely radicalized and start
21:16
fighting everywhere
21:18
it it that’s a real problem for the
21:21
world
21:21
so i think the the concept right now by
21:24
the administration is
21:25
kind of a little bit hands-off because
21:28
we can’t
21:28
fix the problems there by ourselves
21:31
anyway
21:32
so let’s try to to maintain a
21:35
maximum level of influence that we can
21:38
with turkey
21:39
by remaining friendly with them and try
21:41
to stop these things that way rather
21:43
than just
21:44
breaking with them completely now i
21:46
other people argue against
21:48
that but i think i mean as being the
21:50
right decision but
21:51
i do not i mean maintaining a strong
21:54
level of influence
21:56
is very useful now you always have to
21:59
examine is it a net positive or a net
22:01
negative
22:02
and dealing with a country like turkey
22:04
for example
22:05
and i think so far the overwhelming
22:09
majority of people that
22:10
are in the policy foreign policy sort of
22:13
uh business i’ll look at this and go
22:15
it’s still a net gain
22:17
to deal with turkey remain friendly with
22:19
them even though there’s all this other
22:20
stuff going on in the background
22:22
what do you do go to war with them or
22:24
try to maintain a friendship
22:26
or back the forces at war with them or
22:28
you know maintain this relationship
22:30
so it’s it’s a it’s a razor’s edge
22:33
that’s being walked in many ways but
22:35
uh i don’t disagree with with that line
22:39
of thinking
22:40
so uh i i i’d have to say at least let’s
22:43
give this
22:44
this a shot and see where it goes and
22:46
hope hope for the best and at least
22:48
now i think we do have a lot of
22:50
influence of turkey turkey thinks we
22:52
that we need them which i would i would
22:55
tend to disagree on that
22:57
i i like the walk softly to carry a big
22:59
stick sort of policy so i would point
23:01
out things like oh well
23:03
you know the armenians have claims to
23:05
some of your lands like mount ararat and
23:08
i think we’ve got uh you know the kurds
23:11
that certainly deserve their own
23:12
homeland and
23:14
you know you’ve conquered some of the
23:15
kurdish homelands in part of turkey that
23:17
should go back to them
23:18
you know i think there’s things that we
23:20
could point out to them and just say
23:21
look
23:22
you know which are we working together
23:24
because if we’re working against you
23:25
those are a couple of things we’re going
23:26
to bring up right away
23:28
so yeah uh it’s a it’s a difficult
23:30
complicated thing
23:32
two quick questions and uh israel does
23:34
this draw israel closer to greece
23:36
does this bring israel into an axis with
23:38
them
23:42
uh yes i think there’s no question
23:43
whatsoever and in the sense
23:46
does turkey drive other countries
23:48
together
23:49
and as kind of a mutual alliance or
23:51
mutual defense
23:52
uh sort of stance then i think that the
23:55
answer is
23:56
absolutely yes and as we talked about
23:58
earlier i think
23:59
this uae treaty with israel is an
24:02
absolute result of that
24:04
and the eu doesn’t have bad relations
24:07
with
24:07
israel sort of to begin with uh perhaps
24:10
not as good as the us does but still
24:13
decent relationships so i don’t think
24:16
that
24:16
that greece and israel were on bad terms
24:20
uh but i think their terms whatever that
24:22
relationship is
24:23
really improved under circumstances
24:25
because certainly is
24:27
israel has openly stated stated
24:30
you know turkey’s become the enemy they
24:32
didn’t used to be 10 years ago was
24:34
different but now
24:35
they’re becoming the enemy so we’re
24:36
worried so yeah israel has spoken
24:39
positively of trying to support greece
24:42
what that turns into who knows but and
24:44
you know it’s funny you don’t hear much
24:45
about the turkey issue
24:46
in the news media you don’t you don’t
24:48
hear about it i i that’s why
24:50
i it caught my eye on your website
24:51
tonight and uh
24:53
we’ll have to revisit that sometime at a
24:55
future show we really do
24:57
uh folks you’re watching a live special
24:59
mac falls
25:00
uh early bird special we’re just so
25:01
honored we’re so glad to have my buddy
25:03
brad johnson with us tonight
25:05
he’s a former c.i.a operative a patriot
25:07
of this country he’s a good friend
25:09
and brad i want to bring things down
25:11
closer to home a little bit with you
25:13
tonight um
25:15
me and you both we’ve got to see this
25:18
probably the same way i know you do
25:20
we’re it’s hard to stomach what’s
25:22
happening to our country right now
25:24
uh with these anarchists this this
25:26
explosion of violence
25:28
across the country these writers these
25:30
uh i don’t even call them protesters
25:32
anymore they’re not protesters this is
25:33
not a protest
25:35
look that that event that took place in
25:37
wisconsin
25:38
uh or portland over the weekend that was
25:40
an execution i mean eyewitnesses
25:42
literally say that this man was executed
25:45
this was not some kind of random
25:47
drive-by shooting and somebody
25:49
accidentally you know got
25:50
carried away with a gun and you know it
25:52
went off and it killed somebody
25:54
this was an execution of a man wearing a
25:56
mega prayer hat
25:58
and you’ve got the media now out there
26:02
screaming to the top of the lines we had
26:04
april ryan today on cnn
26:06
with with out makeup in april if you’re
26:09
watching me tonight
26:11
uh that’s not a good look you might want
26:13
to rethink the
26:14
home video without the makeup thing
26:16
chris is
26:17
chris is an ins he’s an oper equal
26:19
opportunity insulter
26:21
but i would rethink that no makeup
26:24
youtube look april just
26:25
me to you but let me tell you something
26:27
what she said today
26:29
she said because president trump
26:31
defended ron
26:33
whitenhouse or rittenhouse and he’s a
26:35
young man in wisconsin
26:37
that was being attacked by black lives
26:40
matters
26:41
rioters and anarchists okay he had a gun
26:45
which he was legally um okay to have
26:49
he had a license for it he takes the gun
26:52
and he shot three people he didn’t kill
26:54
nobody i think he
26:55
they they got bruises in their their
26:57
shoulders or something it was
26:59
it was a terrible thing well they’ve got
27:01
him under arrest okay
27:03
because all president trump said brad
27:05
he’s talking about the truth he said he
27:07
was
27:07
acting in self-defense that’s exactly
27:09
what he was acting in
27:11
well the media is out there framing that
27:13
as trump’s embracing white supremacy and
27:16
you know he’s embracing a white man and
27:18
then you’ve got these black
27:20
riders shooting a man down in cold blood
27:23
killing him
27:25
and that’s okay i didn’t hear abraham
27:27
saying nothing april ryan’s out there
27:29
today saying the international court of
27:31
the
27:31
hague should intervene in our affairs
27:35
here in america and charge
27:37
trump with racial inciting a race war so
27:40
she wants the international body of the
27:42
hague to come over here
27:44
and regulate that let me tell you
27:45
something april that is about as
27:47
dumb as your makeup look today your lack
27:49
of makeup
27:50
looked on that youtube video let me tell
27:53
you something you hold your freaking
27:55
effing breath for that to happen honey
27:57
it ain’t gonna happen but brad my point
27:59
to you to get back to more
28:01
level-headed conversation here let me
28:04
tell you something man
28:05
our country’s our country’s in a mess
28:06
and look i think there’s money behind
28:08
these
28:09
i don’t think this is by happenstance
28:11
what’s going on right now there’s
28:13
forces outside the nation piling in on
28:16
this both financially
28:17
and politically am i correct
28:20
yes across the board and i i would add a
28:23
couple of things the
28:24
that what the president i listened very
28:26
closely to what the president
28:27
said and what the president pointed out
28:29
was was what he talked about what was in
28:31
the video
28:32
yes and you could see the guy running
28:34
away and being
28:35
chased and pursued by a large group of
28:37
people spread out behind him which by
28:40
the way
28:41
that is an indicator to me of training
28:44
because that’s not the human mark that’s
28:46
right just
28:46
spread out and surround him that way
28:48
right the human norm would be
28:50
grouped together and chase directly
28:51
behind him so this group chasing him
28:54
uh spread out behind him and the first
28:56
man there when this
28:57
individual trying to run away fell down
29:00
uh the first guy there came and kicked
29:01
him in the stomach trying to knock him
29:03
and then ran away
29:04
the next guy came up with a skateboard
29:06
and hit him on the head
29:07
at that point it became clear that that
29:10
this that this guy had
29:11
had a good chance of being beat to death
29:13
if he didn’t pull out his gun and use it
29:15
clearly a case of self-defense that is
29:18
also
29:18
precisely the second time exactly this
29:21
scenario has played out
29:23
another guy who had a gun who was
29:24
protecting one of the statues about a
29:26
month ago
29:27
again got chased down the streets right
29:29
had a group spread out around behind
29:31
him and chasing him down the street
29:33
surrounding
29:34
so that when they finally caught up to
29:36
him they could attack him from different
29:37
directions
29:38
again an indicator of training so this
29:41
was
29:41
an organized effort to perhaps
29:45
beat these guys to death but certainly
29:47
beat them unconscious was what was in
29:49
the game plan
29:50
and these people legitimately defended
29:52
themselves so we’ve got the
29:54
cnns the mainstream media and the
29:57
democratic party
29:59
defending organized criminal activities
30:02
against innocent citizens i’m on the
30:05
side of the victims
30:06
there on the sides of the criminals one
30:08
other very important thing
30:10
remember who provided all that training
30:14
where did those people go all of that
30:16
i’ve given
30:17
training to a lot of people’s army
30:19
special forces groups and different
30:20
things like that and
30:22
training is expensive which is why it’s
30:24
always cut out of the budget first for
30:26
the military
30:27
but it’s expensive to do so who paid for
30:29
all that
30:30
and where did they go to receive the
30:32
training one final issue with that
30:35
you i don’t know i think we’ve talked
30:37
about this before but one of the things
30:38
i’ve pointed out many many many many
30:40
times
30:42
antifa has taken some of their people
30:45
by the hundreds and sent them to syria
30:48
to fight with some of the leftist groups
30:49
there
30:51
and they got combat experience there’s
30:53
many photographs of it i’ve posted
30:55
photographs of it
30:56
they have their flags up fighting next
30:58
to some of these syrian groups that are
30:59
out there
31:00
in combat now the question i’ve always
31:02
asked is
31:04
why is antifa sending
31:07
combat troops out and then bringing them
31:09
back why would they feel that they need
31:11
to do it and now the answer should be
31:13
apparent to everybody
31:14
and that is with the assassination the
31:16
execution of this man wearing the red
31:18
hat yes that was from patriot prayer
31:21
and they and if you listen what has come
31:24
out is there’s
31:25
audio of this thing where the four
31:26
people in the car drove up
31:28
and if you read the transcript or listen
31:30
to the conversation
31:32
you can hear them say you know basically
31:34
here’s one go ahead and do it
31:36
the other guy going do it now yes pull
31:38
it out and he pulls out his gun and
31:40
shoots him executes this guy
31:42
they all jump in the car and drive away
31:44
well there’s why you
31:45
need experienced combat troops these
31:47
guys are not afraid to come in and just
31:49
shoot
31:49
this in person they just picked somebody
31:52
that was wearing a red hat
31:53
because he was wearing a red hat this is
31:56
you know
31:57
absolute hate crime these these people
31:59
need to be pursued
32:01
and this is a perfect example of people
32:03
that need to get the death penalty
32:05
all four of those people need to be
32:07
executed uh under the law get their
32:09
trial but you know this was clearly
32:11
definitely the case
32:12
as an execution and and they that’s what
32:15
needs to come out of this
32:17
to stop others from doing the same thing
32:19
and that this is where we’re seeing
32:22
these combat troops from antifa come
32:25
back
32:25
and be here in the united states and and
32:27
what and how they’re effective for
32:29
antifa these guys are dangerous and
32:32
they’re perfectly happy to kill people
32:34
if it makes a political point
32:35
for them and they have got to be stopped
32:39
and who has the intestinal fortitude
32:42
on the the conservative and republican
32:45
side
32:46
to stand up and start calling for this a
32:47
few people have mentioned it
32:49
but this is outrageous absolutely
32:51
outrageous
32:52
we’re having the bad guys
32:56
slaughter people in the streets that’s
32:58
right and where’s the outrage i mean
33:00
even the politicians who mentioned go oh
33:02
this needs to be investigated
33:05
okay well where is the investigation why
33:08
aren’t you arresting people by the
33:09
hundreds in the street
33:11
taking them all in for questioning and
33:12
going do you know those guys here’s the
33:15
car
33:15
come on do you have any information on
33:16
it you know and start sending these
33:18
people off to you know
33:20
break rocks up in jail or whatever
33:22
whatever hard time there is
33:24
available these days that’s what needs
33:25
to be done and track down the people who
33:28
are funding it
33:29
are the chinese funding the assassinate
33:31
assassination of american citizens
33:33
in the street through antifa are they
33:36
don’t we deserve to know is george soros
33:39
funding the assassination of american
33:41
citizens innocent
33:42
american citizens in the street well i
33:44
think the answer is clearly yes yes
33:46
why aren’t we going after these guys why
33:49
isn’t george soros being
33:51
arrested and brought in and you’ll let
33:53
him spend the what few years he left
33:55
him in jail come on rotting in a cell i
33:57
mean all these guys
33:58
these people that pull the trigger you
34:01
have to go after those people
34:03
if you do not it’s just going to
34:04
continue to happen over and over and
34:06
over again
34:06
and let’s not forget that 34 year old
34:09
mother
34:10
of a little two or three year old girl
34:12
that she was in the park confronted by
34:14
black lives matter and her answer to it
34:16
was all lives matter
34:17
and for that they waited for her to go
34:19
down a path in the park
34:20
and assassinated her as well on the spot
34:23
i mean these assassinations are starting
34:25
to stack
34:25
up i mean wake up and smell the roses i
34:28
mean this is
34:29
this is this is a trend including the
34:32
assassination of police that’s in full
34:35
swing
34:35
this is an armed violent rebellion on
34:38
the streets of the united states
34:40
and we cannot tolerate it those
34:42
politicians in those local cities
34:44
back it need to go to jail these people
34:46
that are conducting the murders need to
34:48
get the death penalty
34:49
we’ve got to clean up we’ve got to clean
34:51
this up
34:52
but i’m with you a thousand percent
34:54
thousand percent and i couldn’t agree
34:56
more and
34:57
i gotta ask you serious question because
34:59
this is where it gets really touchy
35:01
we got an election year but at what
35:04
point
35:05
does president trump have to declare
35:08
this an insurrection
35:09
and with an insurrection act send
35:11
federal troops because he’s being
35:14
basically stopped at every corner by
35:16
these liberal mayors these liberal
35:17
governors
35:18
they’re out there screaming and we’re
35:20
not going to allow this tyrant chief to
35:22
bring federal troops on our city
35:24
and these assassinations keep happening
35:26
at some point brad
35:28
he’s got to drop the hammer because look
35:31
we can’t keep allowing this and i’m
35:33
going to tell you something else is this
35:34
boiling i got i’m going to get your
35:35
opinion on this
35:37
it’s not just the federal government
35:38
that’s getting uh ready to pounce
35:41
look i’ve been talking to some and and
35:43
these are not
35:44
these are not right wing kooks these are
35:46
not the fringe i’m not talking about the
35:49
the the pot smoking reefer smoking
35:52
right wing kkk types i’m talking about
35:55
just general patriots in america that
35:57
love their country
35:58
and they’re watching these
35:59
assassinations pile up
36:02
and they’re getting tired of it and
36:04
they’re watching these punk kids
36:05
put their middle finger up to america
36:07
and say you know screw
36:08
you we’re going to do what we want to do
36:10
and i heard joy reid say something today
36:12
that was again trying to incite the fact
36:15
that these kids ain’t got nothing but
36:17
skateboards that’s what her quote was
36:18
she says
36:19
all the trump supporters have got guns
36:21
speaking of the
36:22
written house guy in wisconsin but all
36:25
these black lives
36:26
matter antifa kids all they got is uh
36:28
skateboards
36:29
brad it wasn’t a skateboard that
36:30
assassinated that man
36:32
in portland oregon the other night that
36:35
was not a skateboard assassination those
36:37
guys had
36:37
guns and at what point do the patriots
36:41
step into this and say you know we’ve
36:43
had enough and look
36:44
we don’t want a civil war i don’t want
36:46
to see that i don’t want to see
36:48
you know two sides going at it because
36:50
people die with that people are going to
36:52
die you’ve been in some of the hot spots
36:54
of the middle east that’s what the
36:55
middle east is about
36:56
all these factions and all these clans
36:58
going at each other fighting each other
37:00
destroying homes suicide bombings
37:02
we don’t want that here on american soil
37:04
but brad if this don’t get taken care of
37:06
pretty soon brother
37:07
i’m not so sure we’re not far from that
37:11
fault i i would tend to think
37:16
it’s probably too late because we’re
37:19
seeing
37:19
people get killed and
37:23
the certainly at least in those areas
37:25
the police have refused to step in and
37:28
do their duty yes
37:29
i don’t blame the police themselves so
37:32
much as i blame the political leadership
37:34
there
37:35
but what do you do you know so basically
37:37
what’s going to happen is they’re
37:39
forcing segments of the united states
37:42
into vigilantism they’re forcing it upon
37:46
us because
37:47
you’re you have violence acted out
37:49
against you
37:51
and if you and if you try to defend
37:52
yourself uh the police arrest you
37:55
yeah everybody who defends themselves
37:58
absolutely
37:59
what’s clearly self-defense they get
38:01
arrested
38:02
so uh what do you do you know what’s
38:05
left and it’s it’s only vigilantism and
38:08
it’s it’s
38:09
very unfortunate and your previous point
38:12
uh president trump is not going to do
38:15
anything until after the november
38:16
november election i know all of his
38:18
advisers saying
38:19
you know are saying you know don’t rock
38:20
the boat you’re winning keep doing what
38:22
you’re doing
38:23
win the election and then do whatever
38:25
you want to do so i think we’re locked
38:27
in this is september 1st so i think
38:30
we’re locked in for september and
38:32
october
38:33
excuse me until the november election
38:36
into exactly what we’re seeing right now
38:38
and i think it’s going to continue to
38:40
cycle up i think you’re going to see
38:42
antifa and black lives matter
38:44
assassinate more people i think you’re
38:46
going to see them
38:48
try to increase the level of violence i
38:50
think you’re going to see them try to
38:52
spread
38:53
out the violence and bring it to more
38:55
cities in the united states
38:57
certainly wherever you see a democratic
39:00
local government that will run cover for
39:03
them
39:03
and let them do all of this stuff and
39:06
use the police
39:07
to protect them versus the people of the
39:09
united states
39:11
and i think that’s where we’re at until
39:13
november
39:14
and if trump wins i think they will
39:16
redouble their effort
39:17
which is what i predict and then i think
39:20
you’re going to see trump say okay
39:21
enough is enough
39:23
and they’ll just i think then at that
39:25
point he can he can
39:26
he could just turn the you know turn the
39:29
dogs of war
39:29
loose if you will on these on these
39:32
violent groups and hopefully you know
39:33
get them all
39:34
i don’t see a way around violence what
39:36
do you do when the killing begins and
39:38
the killing has begun
39:39
it has brad what do you do you know you
39:42
you don’t
39:42
you cannot go to these people and say
39:45
gee you know if we
39:46
if we rehabilitate you and put you in
39:48
this school to learn how to drive a
39:51
truck or be a plumber or be a doctor or
39:53
whatever it is
39:54
will you stop killing people you know
39:56
they’re not gonna do it so i just i
39:58
don’t once the violence begins
40:00
once the killing begins uh
40:03
i don’t think it ends any other way than
40:05
with more killing so
40:07
let’s just hope the good guys win in the
40:08
long run but yes it’s a mouthful and i
40:10
have to tell you i’m with you i feel
40:12
that i sense that too
40:13
and uh look i think what’s happening is
40:16
that
40:19
what i’m concerned about though is that
40:20
this violence you’re talking about
40:22
middle america has not tasted it yet if
40:25
you think about the cities that have
40:27
been
40:27
caught up into this you sort of nailed
40:29
it it’s the democrat-run
40:31
suburbs you have portland you’ve had
40:32
seattle you’ve had minneapolis you’ve
40:34
had kenosha wisconsin
40:35
democrat run state right now democrat
40:38
run city
40:39
detroit’s had a little bit of buzz in my
40:41
hometown of atlanta georgia you’ve got a
40:42
liberal mayor
40:44
and next door to your neck of the woods
40:46
in washington area up there into the
40:48
capitol
40:49
uh you got a liberal mayor and you know
40:51
she basically let the
40:52
black lives antifa folks run wild there
40:54
in these statues and you know
40:56
the media tried to you know claim trump
40:58
was attacking peaceful protesters with
41:00
tear gas here a few months ago back in
41:02
the in the spring
41:04
and then on top of all that brad you’ve
41:05
got this coveted mess and
41:07
i mean i tell you what it feels like to
41:09
me right now it feels like we’re in a
41:11
movie
41:11
a bad movie an apocalypse movie
41:14
and the good guys the good guys are
41:17
losing to the zombies
41:18
but the problem is the zombies have the
41:20
weaponry
41:21
and they’ve got the media and they’ve
41:23
got the whole that’s going on
41:24
and we do feel powerless out here look i
41:26
talk to people every day
41:28
and people just feel so frustrated they
41:31
don’t know what to do and they’re
41:32
and they feel powerless to stop this and
41:35
i think that’s
41:36
that’s the sense i’m getting from the
41:38
middle part of the country right now
41:40
but i’m afraid that this violence is
41:41
going to touch these little towns
41:44
eventually it’s not going to just be
41:46
beholden to the big cities that these
41:48
punks
41:49
these terrorists thug anarchists
41:53
are not content on staying in the
41:55
suburbs they’re coming to the rural
41:57
areas of america eventually correct
42:00
oh yes yes they will they have been
42:02
there are some rural areas those areas
42:04
haven’t turned so much to violence
42:06
uh it’s a little more dangerous for
42:07
black lives matter and antifa in rural
42:09
areas because everybody in the rural
42:10
areas has got guns i mean
42:12
you know just it’s the norm and the
42:15
people in the rural
42:16
rural areas know how to shoot so it’s
42:19
it’s it’s a much more dangerous place to
42:21
confront people
42:22
and you know you’re out in the woods you
42:24
get into a shooting fight
42:25
in the woods those guys have tractors
42:27
they’ll dig a hole
42:28
and throw the bodies in and cover them
42:30
up walk away and never never refer to it
42:32
again so
42:33
yeah i don’t think you’re going to see
42:34
the violence until the end
42:36
uh really spread out into rural areas
42:38
that quickly uh but yes
42:40
in the in those areas that are democrat
42:42
controlled i think you can expect it now
42:45
one other point here that we haven’t
42:46
talked about too much is what
42:48
effect will that have and you’ve we’ve
42:51
already heard the spin
42:53
in the this past weekend and today and
42:56
yesterday in the news yes the spin by
42:59
the left is
43:00
this is the presidency of donald trump
43:02
this is all his fault
43:04
why are you blaming us this is trump is
43:06
president but
43:08
nobody is fooled by that
43:11
spin that they’re trying to play voiced
43:14
off on america i mean
43:16
the only people i don’t think anybody
43:17
believes it there are people that will
43:19
spout it as well because they agree with
43:22
democrats
43:23
but they don’t believe that’s true they
43:25
all know this is
43:26
this is is being pushed by the left i
43:29
mean
43:29
really does anybody think that antifa
43:32
works for trump
43:33
no and trump is the one pushing for
43:35
violence in the street
43:37
does black lives matter work for trump
43:39
is having
43:40
at his behest rioting in the street i
43:43
mean what an
43:44
asinine asinine argument but that’s what
43:47
they’re doing
43:48
uh any idiot is going to figure out
43:50
right away that this is just a lie
43:52
and spin in order to try to blame trump
43:54
which is just the
43:56
worn out four years of blaming trump for
44:00
everything uh it’s just it’s going to
44:03
drive
44:03
voters into the arms of trump
44:07
and i’m saying right now trump will get
44:10
a huge
44:11
black vote because those black
44:13
communities they don’t want to see
44:15
police defunded
44:17
it’s going to and he’s going to get a
44:18
huge percentage of the
44:20
compared to normal of the jewish vote
44:23
because of having moved the capital of
44:24
jerusalem and a lot of the other things
44:26
he’s been doing
44:27
and also the hispanics because uh he’s
44:30
presenting law order which appeals
44:32
and has produced the lowest uh
44:35
unemployment
44:36
levels in all of those minorities since
44:38
they’re since
44:39
those were measured so this this
44:42
you know women vote the women aren’t
44:45
looking at riots in the street and
44:47
shooting people
44:48
and trying to beat people with
44:50
skateboards as a great place to bring up
44:52
your child
44:53
and they’re fleeing those places so i uh
44:56
like i say i i just think this is going
44:58
to create a
44:59
one of the largest victories since
45:02
reagan
45:03
uh that we’ve had in an election i think
45:04
trump is going to win and win huge
45:06
his life we get that voter fraud under
45:08
control maybe yeah
45:10
yeah yeah you had uh when you’ve got
45:13
yeah
45:13
voter fraud is is a difficult thing
45:16
i’m sorry no i was just going to say if
45:18
we keep elvis from voting from
45:22
there we’ve got to keep elvis from
45:24
voting on the polls and yeah
45:25
we’re going to be okay buddy absolutely
45:28
hey um
45:28
it’s good stuff and we got about i want
45:30
to take about five more minutes folks if
45:32
you’ve got a question or two for brad
45:33
we’ll take the questions for the last 10
45:34
minutes of the show
45:36
uh i’m going to address something in the
45:38
chat room at the end that i heard
45:40
i’m going to deal with that but i want
45:41
to ask you a question about general
45:42
flynn
45:43
uh that man is getting hammered
45:46
brad i’ve never seen an innocent man go
45:48
through more stuff over a bogus
45:50
claim the appeals court comes back
45:52
yesterday throws it back in the lap
45:54
of sullivan sullivan today comes out and
45:57
says
45:58
i can do nothing till after the election
46:00
so
46:01
he’s in limbo again for another two
46:03
months um
46:05
you know i know this the legal part is
46:07
not so much your
46:08
expertise but this is just an opinion
46:10
question what do you if you’re sydney
46:11
powell his lawyer
46:12
do you did you fast-track this the
46:14
supreme court what do you do i mean it’s
46:16
just as frustrating
46:17
because brad let me tell you something
46:18
general flynn is all of us out here
46:20
it’s not just about general flynn that
46:22
case is about every one of us
46:24
what they’ve done to this man they can
46:26
do to anybody if they get away with this
46:28
stuff with him
46:29
they can do it anybody man it’s two-tier
46:31
justice again and i’m telling you
46:33
something that’s the other thing we’re
46:34
sick of
46:34
you mentioned the the hyperbole about
46:37
one narrative for
46:38
you know the law abiding citizens you
46:40
know we’re the aggressors and then when
46:42
we defend ourselves we get arrested
46:44
antifa can go out there with you know
46:46
automatic weapons and machine guns and
46:47
by the way uh joyride they’re not
46:49
skateboards
46:50
moron they’re not skateboards and then
46:52
they can do whatever they want to and
46:53
the police won’t even go in and stop it
46:55
but the same thing goes with general
46:57
flynn this is a vote
46:59
brad it was a bogus thing from the
47:00
beginning what they charged with if he
47:02
would have been a pro
47:03
obama guy you wouldn’t even heard about
47:05
general michael flynn tonight you
47:07
wouldn’t be talking about it
47:08
how far i’m off the mound on that
47:13
yeah i general flynn i want to try to
47:15
see the whole thing
47:16
and uh it’s one of those things i don’t
47:18
think
47:20
it’s it’s an uh it’s a storyline
47:24
that really grabs the attention of the
47:26
american people as much as
47:28
it should uh i i don’t think that
47:31
general flynn should have been you know
47:34
targeted the way
47:35
he was and having discovered that uh
47:38
it should it should create outrage in
47:40
the united states but it just does not
47:43
and um the legal process is gonna have
47:46
to play out and i for general flynn’s
47:48
sake i certainly hope that
47:50
president trump gets elected and i think
47:51
we all know who general flynn’s going to
47:53
vote for
47:53
yeah so i i
47:57
i if biden were to win i would say
48:01
uh he’s really screwed yeah there’s just
48:03
no way around it
48:04
yeah this judge this activist judge
48:07
sullivan
48:08
um is you know he’s
48:12
these judges are appointed for life he’s
48:14
really going to be
48:15
hard to do anything about and he’s in an
48:18
area to impeach a guy like that
48:20
you know you’d have to be able to get
48:21
the votes and those votes go along party
48:23
lines and he’s in a
48:25
uh democrat district so i mean doing
48:28
something about it is just almost
48:29
impossible
48:30
and him being able to stretch it out uh
48:34
till after election
48:35
is you know he’s just under the rules
48:38
there’s thing now he’s doing some
48:39
uncharted territory sort of stuff
48:42
right uh but there’s since there’s no
48:44
clear precedent against it
48:46
okay uh it
48:49
and and we know what he’s doing i mean
48:52
he’s he is uh
48:55
advertising for a job in the biden
48:58
administration
48:59
without a doubt and so he’s showing
49:01
himself to be an activist
49:03
uh working hard for the party you know
49:06
and
49:07
uh he’s he’s trying to make his name
49:09
known to biden and i think this guy
49:11
wants to be on the
49:12
supreme court personally that’s exactly
49:15
what he’s after
49:16
and so again it’s i have to i have to
49:18
say it’s one of those things about the
49:20
left that i find so disheartening that
49:22
that it’s that you and i have talked
49:24
about this many times the concepts of
49:26
morality we have
49:27
morality immorality and amorality
49:30
and this is one of those guys that falls
49:32
into that a
49:34
morality category because he’s just
49:35
thinking only of himself and doesn’t
49:37
really care about
49:38
what’s right or wrong or anything else
49:40
he’s he’s advertising for a job
49:42
and if he has to step on other people to
49:45
get on that
49:46
that path towards glory he’ll do it and
49:48
i think that’s what we see he’s a very
49:50
little man uh and i i hope uh
49:54
i hope the lack of consequence that that
49:57
that he deserves
49:58
comes to pass in his case yeah got a
50:00
great question melanie thank you for
50:02
this melanie ando out of
50:03
uh youtube tonight brad and i this is
50:06
actually excellent she says
50:07
why do you think there’s been complete
50:10
radio silence from the
50:12
fbi regarding antifa
50:15
and why is it taking so long to take
50:17
these people down you know that’s a
50:18
great question that
50:20
ray and the fbi look bill barr came out
50:22
today
50:23
and basically said look we’re looking
50:25
into these videos we’re watching every
50:27
video we’re gonna we put antifa black
50:30
lives matter on notice we’re coming
50:31
after you that came from the
50:33
attorney general but christopher wray
50:35
brad the fbi director
50:37
he ain’t come out and said a word about
50:38
the violence about antique and black
50:39
lives matter that’s actually a great
50:41
question melanie what’s your thoughts on
50:42
that why is the fbi been solid
50:44
and sort of slow to the gun on this
50:46
brand that’s a good question
50:48
good question i i there’s a number of
50:50
layers to it but let’s start at the top
50:52
the fbi director roy
50:54
has been silent on you know on
50:56
absolutely everything
50:58
and the problem is one of the built-in
51:00
philosophies first of all
51:01
this guy’s on the left he’s not you know
51:03
conservative or republican so what he’s
51:05
doing he’s defending the left the
51:07
the fbi director and so it’s
51:10
it’s his policy which he can defend
51:14
uh as or certainly justify in his own
51:16
mind is that what he wants to do
51:18
and what he states openly he’s doing is
51:21
defending
51:22
the reputation of the fbi so what he’s
51:24
trying to do is essentially
51:26
tamp down all of these problems ride
51:28
through it
51:29
and not tarnish the reputation of the
51:32
fbi
51:33
the problem with that philosophy and one
51:35
of the reasons why it’s so
51:36
absolutely moronic for him to do this is
51:39
that the
51:39
the reputation is already tarnished it’s
51:43
already destroyed yes would you as a
51:45
conservative
51:46
have a meeting with the fbi in your
51:48
office and just tell them whatever they
51:49
want about a conversation with the
51:51
russians
51:52
nobody would be that stupid in this day
51:54
and age
51:55
so the reputation is already you know
51:57
crap
51:58
so what you have to do is bite the
52:00
bullet step and correct the problems
52:03
and fix it and christopher wray doesn’t
52:06
have the huevos to do that job he’s the
52:08
wrong man for this he’s
52:09
too weak and doesn’t understand and
52:12
philosophically agree
52:13
with actually fixing the fbi now
52:17
throughout the fbi particularly
52:19
leadership of which
52:20
christopher wray is a reflection but all
52:22
up and down
52:24
this philosophy of the left this
52:26
activism
52:27
that we see like by activist judges we
52:29
also have activist
52:31
law enforcement interesting what we’re
52:33
seeing are many of those elements play
52:34
out
52:35
and just the other day a retired fbi
52:38
agent
52:39
came out and said oh we’ve identified
52:41
that all these local law enforcement
52:43
guides
52:44
are affiliating with right-wing
52:46
right-wing extremist groups
52:48
well okay you know cowardly esto b
52:52
you know saying that who are these
52:54
groups then
52:55
let’s take a look at them and one of
52:57
these groups is
52:58
that is this uh uh patriot prayer group
53:02
groups like this that they’re they’re
53:05
they’re preaching christianity and
53:07
prayer and you know the flag and being
53:09
loyal to the united states of america
53:11
well for the for the fbi
53:14
the the the current you know
53:17
thinking is that that’s radical right
53:20
wing because they don’t agree with the
53:21
extreme left
53:23
and we’ve got the uh the southern
53:25
poverty law
53:26
center who’s out trying to call these
53:28
people basically if christian is in your
53:30
name or your efforts
53:32
your radical right wing and so you’re a
53:35
hate group and racist
53:36
and all that stuff all of this is
53:38
designed to make sure that there is no
53:41
dialogue and it’s a way to stop your
53:43
critics from being able to speak
53:45
out on the issues as they see them and
53:47
that’s what we’re seeing the fbi
53:49
is badly infected with all of this
53:54
but now so so is most of the rest of
53:56
federal government don’t get me wrong
53:58
although i criticize the fbi a lot of
54:00
these things
54:01
that is really kind of the federal
54:02
government as a whole and certainly this
54:04
targeting of
54:05
president trump that we’ve seen for the
54:06
last five years because it was
54:09
him as a candidate as well uh is
54:12
is all coming from this political
54:14
corruption this activist
54:16
corrupt uh political motives that are
54:19
going on
54:19
and it’s just so apparent in the fbi but
54:23
the cia nsa all of these other people
54:25
and doj as well
54:27
and that’s what allowed them to target
54:29
illegally
54:30
the president of the united states and
54:32
try to get rid of him
54:34
using illegal means so hopefully in the
54:36
next week or two we’ll see those
54:37
indictments come out that we’ve been
54:38
promised yeah absolutely i do too
54:40
uh got a question this is from a dear
54:42
friend cleo down under she’s actually a
54:44
greek
54:45
and uh she wanted to know uh you covered
54:48
a little bit about what
54:49
editor john is doing in the greek waters
54:51
but she wanted to add this she says are
54:53
you aware
54:54
brad that they’re sending fake refugee
54:56
muslims
54:57
into greece with u.n debit cards and
55:00
erdogan has banned dna
55:02
tests so the turks won’t find any greek
55:05
ancestry
55:06
he wants them to believe in a pure
55:09
ottoman
55:09
race brad that goes back to the armenian
55:12
genocide
55:13
of the 1900s that’s exactly what turkey
55:16
did
55:17
at the beginning of the 19th century
55:19
20th century
55:21
when they basically slaughtered a whole
55:23
race of people over the same basically
55:24
principle the holocaust was based on the
55:26
purity of race
55:28
error john is trying to bring back a
55:31
freaking pure ottoman empire and
55:33
don’t care who he kills to do it correct
55:36
yes and and it sure uh echoes uh from
55:39
the nazi
55:40
period where racial purity was was
55:43
important
55:43
and if you didn’t have that you know you
55:45
could be slaughtered i will uh add uh
55:48
one thing now uh there was a
55:52
uh a revolution by the armenians started
55:54
by a
55:55
a party called the dashnak party and
55:58
they actually started that revolution
56:00
and
56:00
and that was the justification that the
56:02
ottoman empire as i said they were a
56:04
very cruel dictatorship
56:06
and what they did and just pick up every
56:08
armenian they could get their hands on
56:10
and slaughter them by the
56:11
hundreds of thousands so that’s what
56:13
happened you know unfortunately the uh
56:16
the there uh at least a small portion of
56:18
that slaughter
56:19
responsibility does go to that dashnak
56:21
party that
56:22
they kicked the whole damn thing off and
56:24
created that problem
56:25
not you know that they didn’t have
56:27
certain justifications but
56:29
if you start a shooting war you gotta be
56:30
prepared to pay the consequences and
56:31
unfortunately those
56:32
consequences were draconian and they
56:34
essentially as you say
56:36
they tried to wipe out the armenians
56:38
down to the last person they did some of
56:39
the bones are still in the desert where
56:41
they marched people out there
56:42
to be seen uh yeah it was a horrible
56:45
horrible act of what what took place
56:48
uh go ahead i’m sorry no just good ques
56:51
that was good good intake i’m looking at
56:52
this question because it’s actually
56:54
another
56:54
follow-up question what you just said
56:56
and and this is from andre
56:58
he says brad will turkey would turkey
57:00
get booted then
57:01
out of nato if they attacked greece
57:05
uh you think you sort of alluded to the
57:07
fact you’re not sure what nato would do
57:08
in that
57:09
situation do you i don’t think anyone
57:12
knows what nato would do in that problem
57:14
if two nato company
57:15
countries fight each other uh i i just
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don’t know and there is no
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uh methodology laid in place uh
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within these agreements the nato
57:26
agreements for kicking somebody out of
57:27
nato
57:28
so it’s never been done it’s uncharted
57:30
territory there’s no methodology
57:32
that’s still agreed to by the member
57:35
nations or something where
57:36
you can look at somebody and say okay
57:38
we’ve voted you’re out
57:40
uh so nobody knows uh and
57:43
would they i don’t think there would be
57:45
an automatic move
57:47
to kick turkey out i think what would
57:49
happen is what they would first try to
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do is
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if is to come to some sort of peace
57:54
agreement
57:55
uh but as i said turkey’s not going to
57:58
come to a peace agreement unless it
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gives them everything
58:01
i’ll agree with that so i i just don’t
58:04
see
58:05
like i said i don’t see how this gets
58:07
solved
58:08
without fighting and right now
58:11
when it comes to just grease and turkey
58:13
turkey holds most of those cards so
58:15
we’ll see how it plays out this is an
58:16
excellent another excellent question and
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thank you
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that’s good stuff uh let me this marie
58:21
marie
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thank you i don’t want to murder your
58:23
last name uh but she’s actually got a
58:25
great question i’ll read her
58:26
read you her comment brad she says i did
58:28
some research today and it looks like
58:30
there’s more federal statutes for
58:32
foreign terrorists than domestic
58:34
congress made many proposals in 2019 to
58:37
clarify
58:37
domestic terrorism her question what are
58:40
the statutes for domestic terrorism and
58:42
can we shut down
58:44
funding to antifa and black lives matter
58:46
i got a bright audience man
58:48
these patriots they come prepared when
58:50
you come on the show that’s an excellent
58:52
question
58:53
are we dealing with the domestic
58:54
terrorism situation here with these two
58:56
groups i believe we are
58:57
i believe they define domestic terrorism
59:00
against america
59:03
uh well i would answer that with a
59:04
typical cia
59:06
operations officer background the answer
59:08
is both yes and no
59:09
so yes in many ways they do define
59:13
uh domestic terrorism and that’s
59:15
absolutely correct that the domestic
59:17
terrorism laws are not as clear-cut and
59:20
expansive as the foreign
59:23
terrorist laws so it is a weakness in
59:25
our system there’s been a lot of talk
59:26
about fixing it
59:28
but of course as long as the house is in
59:31
nancy pelosi’s hands that type of
59:34
legislation will never go forward
59:36
now the reason i say the answer is also
59:38
no
59:39
is because of the funding is
59:42
antifa a domestic terrorist organization
59:46
if they’re funded by china and a
59:50
foreigner
59:50
george soros right and so i would say
59:54
the answer is well yes
59:55
no i would say there’s there’s parts of
59:57
that that are no because of the funding
59:59
so
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uh and then and kind of bring that to
60:03
the final point on that
60:04
carrying it forward is what do you do
60:06
about it well you we don’t need that
60:08
many more
60:09
laws to act against this because if we
60:12
can go out
60:13
and if you turn loose the fbi and the
60:15
cia and nsa
60:17
and doj and all these people uh
60:20
they’re going to very quickly put
60:21
together how this money’s coming in and
60:24
how it’s being paid and they’ll just go
60:25
out and arrest all these people
60:26
we’re going gonna figure the whole thing
60:27
out and you if you have the cia overseas
60:30
working against all those people they
60:32
can go do whatever they
60:33
you know whatever they’re directed to do
60:36
by the by the administration
60:37
so a lot of that then would feed the
60:39
information back in
60:41
so if you’re showing that this group of
60:43
antifa people who’s rioting
60:45
in portland for example for the last 90
60:48
days which
60:49
that’s enormously expensive so if you
60:52
can show that money’s coming from
60:53
china are those domestic or are they
60:57
foreign both if they’re paid for by
60:59
china
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i think there’s enough wiggle room in
61:02
there that you could go after these guys
61:04
based on the laws we already have
61:05
yeah and uh i i i think that if we
61:08
really looked we’d find things like that
61:10
quite
61:10
readily yeah madame justice has a
61:14
good explanation there uh madame justice
61:16
great question here too brad do you
61:18
think the cia
61:19
or another government agency has
61:21
possibly infiltrated the black lives
61:23
matter and antifa movement
61:25
and they’re already working on the
61:27
behalf of the government do you think
61:29
there’s been any infiltration into these
61:30
groups to get to the source of that
61:32
funding
61:33
and where this money’s coming from
61:38
uh not domestically okay um
61:42
black lives matter for example first of
61:43
all it would not be the cia in this case
61:45
it would be the fbi
61:47
it’s since it’s u.s citizens and a
61:49
domestic issue
61:51
the the lead organization would be the
61:53
fbi they do have their
61:55
division that’s called the ci division
61:57
the counterintelligence division
61:58
which represents about a third of the
62:00
fbi about two-thirds is criminal
62:02
division about one-third is
62:03
ci division roughly i don’t know the
62:05
exact numbers but
62:06
uh that would be the group that would do
62:08
this and i can almost certainly
62:10
guarantee you that they have not done it
62:12
and uh there’s just no political will
62:15
for that within the fbi it’s not
62:18
something that would be improved
62:20
approved for the kind of reasons i laid
62:22
out that that
62:23
activist leftist philosophy within the
62:26
fbi is
62:28
too pervasive so somebody up and down
62:30
the line would look at that and say
62:31
oh that’s immoral and wrong and we
62:33
shouldn’t we shouldn’t infiltrate this
62:35
group that’s out slaughtering people
62:37
that are innocent you know
62:38
that would be that would be wrong so
62:42
weird bass awkward sort of philosophy
62:44
but that’s who’s there
62:45
and i might add one last thing with all
62:47
of these agencies
62:50
trump has got a real problem yes the
62:52
problem is that these agencies
62:55
cannot be fixed with who’s there that’s
62:57
great you cannot fix the cia with who’s
63:00
there you cannot fix the fbi with these
63:02
there
63:02
so that means you have to replace
63:04
wholesale now how that would be done i
63:05
just can’t imagine
63:06
but i don’t know that that’s going to be
63:11
possible i pray that it is i pray
63:14
someone has the courage to take these
63:15
issues on but
63:17
i unfortunately am afraid it’s just not
63:18
going to happen yeah
63:20
um and i’m going to answer this question
63:23
angela
63:24
uh he says trump took an oath to defend
63:26
and protect america from enemies both
63:28
foreign and domestic wisely letting our
63:31
uh country be destroyed trump ain’t
63:33
letting your country be destroyed angela
63:34
i got news for you it ain’t trump out
63:36
there burning buildings down trump went
63:38
to kenosha wisconsin today
63:40
to stand up for kenosha and the governor
63:43
and the mayor
63:44
wouldn’t let him come ted wheeler won’t
63:47
let him come
63:48
kate brown won’t let him come the
63:50
freaking liberal
63:51
jackass and chicago mayor won’t let him
63:53
come in there
63:55
the lawyer the mayor of minnesota won’t
63:56
let him come minneapolis
63:58
minneapolis governor minnesota wolf all
64:00
of them all these governors all these
64:02
mayors
64:03
you can’t just bring federal troops onto
64:05
a on a state and local level unless you
64:07
have
64:07
legal authority to do it and until he
64:10
inserts the insurrection act you can’t
64:12
do it
64:12
i take offense to that it’s not trump
64:14
burning the cities down
64:16
angela it’s not trump you need to put
64:19
the blame on antifa and black lives
64:20
matter that’s where the blame goes
64:22
and you need to put the blame on the
64:24
leadership of the cities that are
64:26
allowing him to do it
64:28
and i’ll take let brad have the final
64:30
word on that but brad i’m going to tell
64:31
you something these jackass governors
64:32
that have got their hand out for
64:34
reparations now and saying oh my god my
64:36
city’s burned to the ground
64:37
we need federal money to help us rebuild
64:40
let me tell you something if i’m donald
64:41
trump
64:41
i don’t give him a damn dime i don’t
64:43
give him nothing
64:45
you rebuild it on your own money i’ll
64:46
tell you what take some of that black
64:47
lives matter money all the millions of
64:49
dollars that are poured into these corp
64:50
from these corporations and black lives
64:52
matter
64:53
why don’t you go to the corporations
64:54
that are funding these anarchists and
64:56
why don’t you take a
64:57
check from them ted maybe they’ll build
64:59
portland back for you they won’t
65:01
brad you got three minutes final word
65:02
good stuff tonight buddy am i
65:04
is chris fired up does that do i think
65:06
it’s solid gold stuff to go out here you
65:08
know get old
65:08
get a little fighting mad about that but
65:10
am i am i right about that i mean come
65:12
on
65:13
you know you burn your city down you
65:14
allow these thugs to burn it down don’t
65:16
come to the federal government us
65:17
to rebuild it back
65:21
i think president trump in the past has
65:23
has made some comments to that effect
65:24
that
65:25
you know you allowed your your city to
65:26
be burned down you know you should step
65:28
taking steps to stop that at the time if
65:30
you wanted help from the federal
65:31
government
65:32
so we’re not helping you i think he’s
65:33
turned those people down i think
65:36
and yes i agree with what you laid out
65:38
there the the arguments of
65:39
who’s doing what i mean this is clearly
65:42
extreme leftist groups absolutely which
65:44
by the way you mentioned earlier the kkk
65:47
while
65:47
everybody calls them a right extremist
65:53
group founded by the democratic party as
65:56
the
65:57
arm of the political party thank you
66:00
all of those groups are left-wing groups
66:01
there aren’t any writing groups like
66:03
that
66:04
that do do what these guys do so uh
66:08
those left-wing groups the democratic
66:10
party the mainstream media
66:12
hollywood all of those guys are
66:15
basically this
66:16
activist philosophy that believes in
66:18
these violent acts because
66:20
well it’s what karl marx wrote you know
66:22
i’m paraphrasing absolutely karl marx
66:24
wrote that there’s nothing inherently
66:26
wrong with
66:26
violence as long as that violence is
66:29
used
66:30
to further the goals of the party and
66:33
that is the philosophy that we see
66:34
here it is pure marxism what they’re
66:37
doing is
66:38
furthering the interests of the party
66:40
therefore
66:41
violence is perfectly justifiable where
66:44
if you look at a conservative
66:46
or a christian republican whatever
66:48
combination of those things you want to
66:50
call it
66:51
we believe in the in the freedom of the
66:53
individual and the rights of the
66:55
individual
66:55
including individual responsibility so
66:58
we don’t look at the rights of the
67:00
party as more important than our
67:02
personal rights
67:03
now the government does have a place but
67:05
that place shouldn’t
67:06
meet with its brute hill on our necks
67:08
exactly this is what we’re seeing the
67:10
left try to impose right now exactly
67:12
right
67:12
so uh it all boils down ladies and
67:14
gentlemen this is where i think it’s
67:16
going to end up
67:17
and the proof will be in the pudding of
67:18
course where we find take that final
67:20
poll
67:21
in november and see how these elections
67:23
turn out so
67:24
it’s going to be very interesting to see
67:26
but i i repeat i think we’re going to
67:28
see a
67:28
a landslide victory for president trump
67:30
i think all this is doing is pissing us
67:32
off out here brad i do i i think it’s
67:34
i think that he’s and i think that’s
67:36
another reason why he’s sort of
67:38
i i know he’s on top of it but i think
67:40
that’s why he’s not made a sudden move
67:42
because
67:42
i think he wants the american public to
67:44
get sick to their stomach of what
67:46
they’re watching
67:47
and realize the choice is clear in
67:49
november which party
67:51
they won’t run in the country do they
67:52
want these thugs and anarchists to be in
67:54
charge of the white house
67:55
or do they want somebody that cares
67:57
about the country i think it’s genius
67:59
and
67:59
look this thing troubled me this weekend
68:02
this execution
68:03
troubled me very deeply um and i pray
68:07
there’s no more bloodshed but i’ve got a
68:08
bad feeling tonight that it’s just the
68:10
beginning
68:11
but i’m going to tell you what else is
68:12
just the beginning that kid up in
68:14
wisconsin
68:15
i think sent a message that there’s a
68:18
lot of patriots that are not going to
68:20
keep being attacked and take this
68:22
sitting down
68:23
and i’ll just leave it at that i’ll deal
68:25
with that on my justice later tonight
68:27
brad johnson thank you so much
68:28
intelreform.org
68:30
folks i want to tell you something i
68:31
want all of you to do and i mean this
68:33
tonight
68:34
i want you to go to that website and if
68:36
you got five ten dollars twenty dollars
68:38
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68:41
he does this great comment let me tell
68:42
you something this is you’re not gonna
68:44
find
68:44
any better commentary than what you
68:45
found tonight on this hour on the mac
68:47
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68:48
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68:51
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68:53
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68:58
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69:01
whenever he’s on the show all of you are
69:02
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69:03
let him know how much he blesses you
69:04
when he comes on because i tell you it’s
69:06
been good stuff tonight i’ve learned a
69:08
lot
69:08
just in this hour listening to you and
69:10
brad i appreciate you your friendship is
69:12
solid buddy and
69:13
can’t wait to see you again in person in
69:15
washington when the world
69:16
starts acting insane to get back to
69:20
normal
69:20
and we don’t have to walk in with with
69:23
prison guards
69:24
and a mask and a shield and
69:27
16 layers of clothing to eat a hamburger
69:29
steak or something
69:30
when the world gets back to normal we
69:32
have dinner again buddy
69:34
but it’s good to have you not on the
69:35
back files man i appreciate you and i
69:36
went
69:37
we talked about it before the show
69:38
brad’s gonna start being more of a
69:39
regular as we get closer to this
69:40
election i’m gonna be bringing him on
69:42
probably over
69:42
every other week at least one night a
69:44
week and uh so be looking for more
69:46
regularly on the mac files as we get
69:48
into
69:48
november and if something breaks brad he
69:50
knows he’s on call he’ll he’ll come on
69:52
just as quickly as we need him one night
69:54
uh but uh we just got to get elvis’s
69:57
approval because elvis goes to bed early
69:59
that’s where brad’s on the other birds
70:00
and not the night shows
70:02
but we appreciate you man hey you know
70:04
something we need to do i was thinking
70:06
about this today
70:07
we did it we did it two years ago you we
70:09
and you had just met
70:11
and we did a fun fun interview one night
70:14
about all the conspiracies of the
70:16
cia and all the uh area 51s and all that
70:19
we need to do that again because we got
70:21
a brand new audience of what we had two
70:22
years ago and i think that’d be
70:24
an intriguing show and we’ll we’ll work
70:27
on that outside the show and plan on
70:28
that but uh we’ll we’ll come back and do
70:30
it i appreciate you man i really do
70:31
intelreform.org folks is website
70:34
i will see you tonight mcjustus is back
70:37
and uh we got a lit show hide the kids
70:40
bring the popcorn uh chris did not kill
70:43
himself
70:44
if i die between now and 10 o’clock i’m
70:45
not suicidal
70:48
neither is brad johnson neither is brad
70:50
johnson
70:51
and we will see you tonight on mick
70:53
justice for a
70:54
chat 101 and all i got to
70:57
is i said hi the kids because we got
71:00
some good stuff coming tonight
71:01
until then brad till next time buddy
71:03
thank you so much guys have a good night
71:05
thank you for all the questions out
71:06
there be blessed have a good night
71:07
everybody see you later
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