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An Army Sergeant and His Attacker

Could the tide be turning against domestic unrest? An incident involving a white army sergeant, a black fellow, a knock down, a defense witness, and a crowd ready to pounce could be a sign of it.

Brad Johnson retired from the CIA after 25 years as senior operative and station chief. His experience, knowledge and analysis led him to create Americans for Intelligence Reform.

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brad johnson it is september the 4th of
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2020
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uh and you know the entire
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zeitgeist of the west is weirdly
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shifting
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it’s almost difficult to keep up with
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the shift but it’s also difficult
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almost to root yourself to the way we’ve
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always thought
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and looked at and val evaluated
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events because the shifts are so
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fundamental
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i think you want to talk about an event
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that we all saw but didn’t fully
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understand why don’t you explain it
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okay uh basically there was a uh
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a white army sergeant uh
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walking back he’d gone to some stores
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was walking back to his
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car and got accosted in the street by a
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black man who started out by
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spitting on the guy’s car and uh
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and then uh screaming at him and they
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exchanged words at that point and then
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the uh
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the black guy lunged at him and so
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kevin video and it’s even being reported
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that way and the uh
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so the army sergeant ladies just lays
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him low single punch knocks him down
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and basically the the black man laying
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on his back on the ground
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and the army guy is sitting on his chest
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and tells people to call the police to
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get there and
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uh and a crowd starts to gather and a
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lot of them are you know calling him a
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racist and telling them to get off and
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stuff like that and kind of a number of
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little interesting
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tidbits that came out of it one of the
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guys got up right in their face and was
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filming the black guy laying on the
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ground
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with the white army guy sitting on his
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chest and you know he wasn’t like
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putting full weight you could see he had
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kind of his feet underneath him and was
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just trying to
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hold the guy down and uh and
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so someone said hey can you breathe are
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you all right the black guy starts
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smiling at him going yeah i’m fine i’ve
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been waiting for this
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so the implication of that of course is
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that this black guy was
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was provoking this on purpose to
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i guess get famous or who knows what but
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uh
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thinking it was somehow going to be good
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for him to to do this until
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some white guy knocks him down and uh
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this army sergeant now in the comments
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underneath this one of the people you
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can see his
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on his hat and and uh on his little
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patch on
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on the front of his uniform you can see
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he’s indeed a sergeant and one of the
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people commented
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i wasn’t familiar with his the patches
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on
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his uniform so it didn’t identify his
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uh what you know what he did
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specifically to me
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but one of the people commenting said he
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was uh army special forces an sf guy so
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uh that’s true yeah i mean the
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the black guy provocateur picked exactly
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the wrong guy to pick on
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which you know irony and all of this but
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some of the other things that came out
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of it apparently this guy had been up
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and down the street for a week
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trying to provoke an incident of some
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sort and he was harassing customers
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going in and out of the stores
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and the store owners had been calling
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the police and complaining
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some of whom were also black and so
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out of this i i uh
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the army sergeant uh you know good for
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him standing his ground and
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and i will say one of the things that
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makes the army and
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uh forgive me all those former marines
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i’m going to lump you in with the army
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in this case
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i’m sure i’ll piss off somebody with
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this but one of the things that makes
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the
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army and the marine corps so great is
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our non-commissioned
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officer training and and the people they
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retain uh
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and it’s one of the things that truly
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makes our military superior to
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uh the other militaries in the world for
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the most part officer uh
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core training is is excellent and
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produces fabulous officers as well so
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those two things together
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are what make us strong this guy was a
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product of that
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uh and if he’s indeed an sf guy they get
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a lot of a lot of training in fact i’d
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done
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training when i retired from the agency
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that was one of the things i spent a lot
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of time doing was
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training sf and just certain aspects
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that i had experience with
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that was useful to them so worked with
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them a lot always like those guys and
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have a lot of respect for them
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uh but one of the guys that came out of
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the store was a black man in a red shirt
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and if you see
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in the film there’s a guy in the red
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shirt kind of yelling at it looked to me
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initially like he was yelling at the
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army sergeant but
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uh he was in fact yelling at the crowd
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saying you know wait a minute you know
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you didn’t
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see what happened here you know this guy
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is acrossing him and spinning his
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car and that guy’s not a racist stop
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calling him a racist and
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a white supremacist and all this stuff
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and
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one of the things that was recorded is
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somebody came up to the sergeant and
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said
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you know are you hitting our people are
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you knocking down the ground he just
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looked and said yeah
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and he said but i got knocked into the
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ground i’m not going to let him up till
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police get here because i don’t want to
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get up and start trying to punch me
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again i’m not going to let anybody
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add rational answers so out of all of
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that
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kind of one of the take-home things that
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i find very interesting
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is that there are indeed there’s a large
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movement within the black population
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that sees this stuff as out of control
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for me the hero of the day you know as i
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said kudos to the sergeant
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but the hero of the day was that
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apparently a shop
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guy a shop owner shopkeeper uh
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the black guy the red t-shirt you know
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he’s kind of the hero of the day because
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he came out and stood up to all of these
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people that were the you know the horde
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the black
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you know radical element that was there
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uh
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trying to make this into some sort of
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racial thing
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and uh you know that took some courage
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on his part and good for him and
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i’m sure that within the black community
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he’s going to be somebody that gets
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attacked over that so
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uh i thought you know if if there’s a uh
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you know kind of like a mini profile and
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courage award that it should go to that
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guy because
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he stood up did what was right did what
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his conscience dictated and
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pointed out that this this guy who was
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the provocateur was
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was up and down the street for a full
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week you know bugging everybody
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so it was nice to see you know that type
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of balance come into the fray and
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again it’s one of the things where i
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just i predict that the democrats are
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going to be deeply surprised by
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the number of blacks that end up voting
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for trump and and what’s coming up
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because
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they see this thing about defunding the
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police and they universally hate it
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they see how the schools are controlled
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and they all want school vouchers so
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they can
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send their kids where they want i mean
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that’s extremely popular among
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the black population in the united
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states so i think you take all of these
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elements all the stuff that trump was
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for
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trying to do and the lowest unemployment
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rate to ever exist among
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pretty much all the minority populations
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was was in the first part of trump’s uh
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uh first um uh administrations
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so uh it’s i think it’s a very
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significant thing and as i said the true
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kudus the true
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uh recognition goes to that black guy in
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the red t-shirt that was defending the
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white
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uh army sergeant and is there has the
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army sergeant been arrested and jailed
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over this or
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are there is there any legal battle
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happening over this
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not yet when uh when the tape cut off in
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fact the local people that were there
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that were kind of the agitators were
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telling the police that
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they needed to arrest the army sergeant
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but the second the police came the army
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sergeant just stood up moved to the side
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and
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let them do their thing and they they
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ended up arresting the guy in the ground
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and the shopkeepers were the ones saying
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hey wait a minute now that that’s the
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guy causing the problems not this
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army sergeant who got accosted in the
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streets so i don’t think he’ll be
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arrested
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uh you know that
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well we’ll see we’ll see the things are
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so crazy now it sort of depends on
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who’s in buffalo new york and the local
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you know the mayor that’s there i don’t
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know i’m not familiar with local
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politics there i would just kind of
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assume it’s democratic
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so that that army sergeant probably
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stands a chance of being arrested but
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so far it doesn’t appear to be the case
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so
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you
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