Americans for Intelligence Reform

Brad Johnson, President, and retired CIA Senior Officer and Chief of Staff. Insight into current events from an intelligence angle.

Analysis of faceoff with Iran and backing of China

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Brad Johnson it is June 22nd 2019 and

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the big topic is Iran because there is

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like a brutal fog of war already

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happening and there is no war but if

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there’s it’s it seems to be just about

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impossible to predict the next half hour

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based on anything that I’ve seen either

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out of the president or anywhere else

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how about laying the groundwork for us

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as to what’s actually going on and where

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you think this is gonna go sure yeah

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it’s been a very very interesting news

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cycle in the last 24 hours as to what’s

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happened in what’s come out and I I

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think there’s little doubt that this is

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Iran acting up this is what the type of

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thing that they have trained for I think

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it’s clear that Iran placed the limpet

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mines on these ships and had mixed

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success on the degree of explosion

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there’s certainly been the photographs

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of the one that was on fire so I believe

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that was the Norwegian one although

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don’t hold me to that and the the

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revealing aspect of it is the that one

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boat that those then subsequently filmed

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going back and removing a limpet mine

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and then and then leaving and of course

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there’s no doubt that at that point

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where that boat came from and of course

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it’s the type that the Iranians use and

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it would have left from some place to

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come and going back to that place so

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they would have been aware the Iranians

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I’m sure thought they were doing in in

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stealth mode but they did not they were

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filmed so we know where I went back to

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you know I think there’s little doubt as

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to who did it how it was done all of

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those things I think that’s pretty well

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nailed down there’s been some pretty

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solid reporting on that aspect of it too

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a couple of things that are very very

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interesting and again I I repeat you

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know at the beginning of when Trump Iran

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III wasn’t a big trump supporter but as

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it goes on my admiration for the

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intelligence of the man and his grasp of

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what’s going on continues to go up the

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guy is truly going to end up being one

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of the better presidents we’ve had and

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and I think it’s going to be a question

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of if he can beat out Reagan for the

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number one spot or it’s going to be

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stuck in number two behind Reagan as a

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modern day president

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but and let me kind of tell you why I’m

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actually saying that right now first I

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think the president actually understands

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exactly the problem and weighs and

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measures the whole thing actually going

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through it has been heavily reported

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today that it got right up to be within

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ten minutes of going into strike back at

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Iran and the president waved him off and

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changed changed his mind or changed the

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plan or did not give the go-ahead and

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said no you know a number of things out

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of all of that the the one thing that’s

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been mentioned most is that he looked at

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it and said well nobody was killed in

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their attack on our drone and you’re

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saying now there’d be roughly a hundred

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people killed in our counter strike now

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the Iranians don’t care about that but

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the American public does care about that

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sort of thing so something extremely

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important out of that is he looks very

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presidential to the American public

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because it isn’t just you know you can

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be the tough guide strike back – and

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sometimes that’s presidential but

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sometimes stopping the attack is very

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presidential so it’s actually the the

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21st day you mentioned the 22nd but I

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think within the next week it takes a

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while for polls to hit but I think we’re

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gonna see a very nice spike for the

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president and the polls and I think

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you’re gonna see records broken so far

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for a president Trump as to his

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popularity and I think that’s going to

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continue through the election I mean

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depending on there’s things unforeseen

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that might happen but I think he’s going

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to continue to build on that you’ll see

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two factors the negatives will continue

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to come out on what the Democrats have

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been up to with the skullduggery with

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him all are important all of these

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things and on the other hand the

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president president Trump he’s going to

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continue look really good on how he

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handles these things and so his being

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able to step back look at this and say

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well hundred people 150 people would die

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they didn’t kill any of our guys I mean

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that’s presidential there’s another

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aspect of it to do and there was some

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reporting on Fox News this morning

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that they said was confirmed that there

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was also a second factor and that factor

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was that there was some consternation

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coming out of the central government of

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Iran against the general that was

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with actually ordering the attack to

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take place and that that they were not

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pleased with the fact that he went

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through with this attack can shut down

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that drone so that was another thing

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that Trump had alluded to a couple of

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days earlier or day earlier where he had

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said something like I and I’m not so

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sure that this was something that was

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really order there might have been some

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confusion there so I think you have a

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the president is roundly criticized all

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the time for going off the deep end and

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being this crazy guy and everybody in

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Washington DC has to be around him to

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keep him in check and all that stuff but

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now Moulton is famously has wanted to

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pom in Iran and I’m not against that

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either I mean a tough stance on the ran

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is something that makes sense in my mind

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but you know Bouldin is famously kind of

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a hawk on Iran now he was the National

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Security Council according to a lot of

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the reporting has been pushing to have

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Iran bomb so the president took a look

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at the whole situation and said to the

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military and Bolton and everybody else

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involved you know I’m in charge I make

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this decision and my decision based on

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these two factors one you know we’re

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killing people they didn’t killing any

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of ours and two it doesn’t look like

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that was actually planned by the central

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government

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so they don’t necessarily deserve that

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kind of hit so instead what we’ll do is

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impose a few but see that you just hit

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on something really interesting because

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Trump made this

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I wouldn’t say cryptic but incomplete

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statement added tag to the confusion

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Canadian Prime Minister Trudeau sitting

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next to him at the time but he said that

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he didn’t feel that that he said that

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this he indicated that he felt it might

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have been a rogue general or some rogue

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elements of the Iranian military that

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that made this strike but although the

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government seems to be kind of taking

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responsibility for it they said well we

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could have attacked this manned aircraft

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and we chose to attack this drone

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instead which sounds like the Iranians

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are trying to own up to this but you

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know what do we how do what is there any

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evidence that that the public that’s

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publicly available that suggests that

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this was a rogue element of the military

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well a general Jack keen on fox news is

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Martin who was the individual who said

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this and he said I know for a fact that

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the Iranian simple government was and

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were not happy with that general for

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having conducted that shoot down of the

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drone so that guy’s connected he’s

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pretty smart guy I respect a lot of the

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things he said in the past and he’s

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consistently right so I would I would my

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personal opinion is that that that he

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called it he knows and and has reported

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accurately what’s out there so I that

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does not mean that the Iranians that

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don’t stand up to bluster once it shot

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down for domestic you know use for their

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own for the Iranian people they’ll have

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to say oh yeah we’re you know we’re

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we’re not afraid of Satan America and

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all of that so it’s kind of hard for

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them to completely disown it but I

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wouldn’t be surprised at that generals

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in some trouble out of the whole thing –

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based on what what our US general Keane

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said on on Fox News this morning so I I

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personally believe that that is in fact

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the case and that Trump weighed that by

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the way that information I’m you know

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that actually is giving something away

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an intelligence I wouldn’t have

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mentioned it probably myself because

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that means then that were intercepting

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communications of the Iranians now maybe

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it was on the open telephone line or

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something and it gives nothing away so

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that would be okay in that case but not

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knowing I would have been probably I

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would have wanted to know that before I

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spoke about it publicly but it’s already

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out in the public arena so it is what it

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is so presumably it wasn’t anything in

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great secret where we’ve intercepted

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something particularly secret

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methodology of communication that they

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were using and I so clearly he alluded

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to it and the reporting as I mentioned

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as tends to confirm it so I think those

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two factors that I mentioned are in case

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in this case exactly right then Trump

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like I said out of all of this look what

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he’s accomplished

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he’s look very presidential he’s weighed

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the situation he shows he’s a thinking

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man one of the areas for which he’s been

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most criticized by the left is this that

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he’s this reacting guy that has no

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thinking capability on his own but yet

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he said

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and he said no to the military and the

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military you know he shoot on other

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planes they like to respond naturally

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and and so you know he’s put a hold on

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everybody else it was kind of pushing to

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go forward there may have been some

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people that were advising restraint as

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well but he looks very presidential as I

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said I there’s no question in my mind

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that he’s gonna take a spike in his

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popularity I think his poll numbers are

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gonna go up over the next week or ten

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days as the numbers start to come out

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from after today OOP it was refreshing

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to not hear him make a red line and not

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do it that was refreshing well yes and

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and here now he has made a red line and

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a very clear one and what he said was

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okay that drone was an unmanned and so

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that’s different if it had been a manned

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aircraft and you’d had killed somebody

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my reaction would be a lot different now

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I’m telling you right now he means that

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and I don’t think there’s a lot of doubt

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with a lot of people the president the

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United States means it you kill our

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pilots or you shoot down our people or

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you blow up one of our ships and kill

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our people we’re coming for it you know

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we’re coming for you and I think you

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would have a fairly unrestrained

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reaction if I can say that I mean I I

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think if you know carry your Task Force

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down in that area and the support that

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they have around it I mean they would

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immediately establish air superiority

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and would start going in and basically

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they they wouldn’t have to stop until

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there were no more targets to bomb until

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they ran out of stuff to blow up I don’t

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know that he would go that far but let’s

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not forget to Iran is governed against

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the will of the people and you know

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given the opportunity the people would

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rise up what comes out of that you know

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I don’t know and I’m not sure we’d want

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to get into the situation where we we

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would then try to follow back in and

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create a new government out of the

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ground although Iran might do okay they

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do have a traditional that’s older now

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did you get it they had a pretty good

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tradition under the Shah of Iran for I

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mean women the majority of doctors in

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the country were women doctors in those

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days now you know they can’t be doctors

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so they but they do have the the Persian

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people have those traditions that are a

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little different and I’m more freaking

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women and

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those sorts of things well what I was

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told by Iranian expats is that people

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are given prestigious and important jobs

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based on their degree of PD and

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adherence to the tenets of Islam I think

0:11:09.390,0:11:13.709
that’s accurate I mean that it’s it’s

0:11:11.100,0:11:19.310
raids there they have a theocracy in

0:11:13.709,0:11:22.890
place of their religious she said I

0:11:19.310,0:11:24.209
think they’re still very important

0:11:22.890,0:11:26.520
points I want to make out of this and

0:11:24.209,0:11:30.060
one is as I said I think the president

0:11:26.520,0:11:30.810
truly understands all this and Iran is a

0:11:30.060,0:11:32.040
real problem

0:11:30.810,0:11:35.640
I mean they’ve done a lot of things to

0:11:32.040,0:11:37.110
make problems here but the core of the

0:11:35.640,0:11:39.510
issue and this is something we talked

0:11:37.110,0:11:40.770
about last time a little bit you know

0:11:39.510,0:11:43.170
and I made the comment or the

0:11:40.770,0:11:45.930
observation that you know this isn’t

0:11:43.170,0:11:48.209
just pure Iran being the problem kind of

0:11:45.930,0:11:50.490
striking at the United States there’s

0:11:48.209,0:11:52.620
other things going on here and what I

0:11:50.490,0:11:54.330
did not mention and what I want to add

0:11:52.620,0:11:56.670
in the context of what we’re saying here

0:11:54.330,0:12:00.209
today is you know the real underlying

0:11:56.670,0:12:03.029
problem with this is China and behind

0:12:00.209,0:12:05.250
all of this is China and the number one

0:12:03.029,0:12:07.980
strategic threat long-term strategic

0:12:05.250,0:12:11.000
threat to the United States of America

0:12:07.980,0:12:13.920
and the West and freedom is China and

0:12:11.000,0:12:16.200
Iran without that sort of backing would

0:12:13.920,0:12:19.290
be far less capable and do far less harm

0:12:16.200,0:12:21.810
than they’re doing now or capable of

0:12:19.290,0:12:26.850
doing because of the support of backing

0:12:21.810,0:12:29.010
they get out of China and right now I

0:12:26.850,0:12:31.529
think what the President does is he in

0:12:29.010,0:12:34.170
part recognizes he’s striking it at Iran

0:12:31.529,0:12:36.060
and taking out some a few sites I think

0:12:34.170,0:12:38.730
they were scheduled to take out some

0:12:36.060,0:12:42.120
missile base radar sites things like

0:12:38.730,0:12:44.399
that and and he recognizes that that’s

0:12:42.120,0:12:46.260
that’s not big picture and that’s not

0:12:44.399,0:12:48.180
going to do much yeah okay it would be

0:12:46.260,0:12:49.620
feel-good sort of thing you know they

0:12:48.180,0:12:52.740
take out our generally take out there

0:12:49.620,0:12:54.690
sites but again I go back and I start

0:12:52.740,0:12:57.990
looking at this overall situation I’m

0:12:54.690,0:12:59.550
going this president understands the

0:12:57.990,0:13:02.070
situation better than most of his

0:12:59.550,0:13:04.350
advisors around him you don’t have them

0:13:02.070,0:13:06.750
all taking the overall strategic look at

0:13:04.350,0:13:07.949
this situation going well you know yeah

0:13:06.750,0:13:09.629
Iran’s

0:13:07.949,0:13:13.170
and they are a danger and all of those

0:13:09.629,0:13:14.819
things are true but you know this

0:13:13.170,0:13:17.129
probably wasn’t planned on their part

0:13:14.819,0:13:17.609
per se a they didn’t kill any of our

0:13:17.129,0:13:20.309
people

0:13:17.609,0:13:21.869
we’re already hurting him financially a

0:13:20.309,0:13:23.399
great deal so we’ll double then what did

0:13:21.869,0:13:26.339
they do to us they she Jenna turned that

0:13:23.399,0:13:27.629
cost us money we put more sanctions on

0:13:26.339,0:13:30.119
them what does that do it costs them

0:13:27.629,0:13:32.399
money so I mean we’re striking back in a

0:13:30.119,0:13:34.679
balanced fashion very presidential

0:13:32.399,0:13:37.470
and again the overall understanding of

0:13:34.679,0:13:40.739
the strategic problem here and and you

0:13:37.470,0:13:44.069
you have to take into account China and

0:13:40.739,0:13:47.309
so I think he gets it and I I think

0:13:44.069,0:13:48.749
probably we’re going to see it looks

0:13:47.309,0:13:50.069
like you know we’d something we’ve

0:13:48.749,0:13:52.350
talked about before there’s a lot of

0:13:50.069,0:13:53.759
pressure on john bolton now and it looks

0:13:52.350,0:13:56.369
like over the next few months he’s

0:13:53.759,0:13:59.220
probably going to end up having served

0:13:56.369,0:14:00.269
out his time and and a move on both was

0:13:59.220,0:14:02.549
very bright man has a lot of

0:14:00.269,0:14:04.079
capabilities so he he’s a he’s gonna be

0:14:02.549,0:14:06.119
around for a long time and involved and

0:14:04.079,0:14:08.669
so on but he’ll be replace and i think

0:14:06.119,0:14:12.149
now this is again something we’ve talked

0:14:08.669,0:14:14.040
about before and i refer back to Jimmy

0:14:12.149,0:14:17.129
Carter and his two-year learning process

0:14:14.040,0:14:18.629
to understand that that you know the

0:14:17.129,0:14:20.189
president back in the days of the Soviet

0:14:18.629,0:14:22.049
Union was lying to him and after two

0:14:20.189,0:14:23.970
years of dealing with all this stuff it

0:14:22.049,0:14:25.769
finally he finally figured out that he

0:14:23.970,0:14:27.329
was being lied to by the Russians so a

0:14:25.769,0:14:28.589
two-year learning curve and I think

0:14:27.329,0:14:30.089
President Trump has now gone through

0:14:28.589,0:14:32.699
that two-year learning curve as

0:14:30.089,0:14:34.499
president and is now to the point where

0:14:32.699,0:14:36.059
he understands who he needs and starts

0:14:34.499,0:14:38.369
picking him and he’s starting to move

0:14:36.059,0:14:40.949
out people that don’t serve him and he’s

0:14:38.369,0:14:42.089
bringing in people that do serve the

0:14:40.949,0:14:43.379
interests of the United States because

0:14:42.089,0:14:45.629
that’s what the president is trying to

0:14:43.379,0:14:48.299
do he’s trying to actually serve the

0:14:45.629,0:14:51.480
interests of Americans and the United

0:14:48.299,0:14:52.860
States of America and so he’s I think

0:14:51.480,0:14:54.749
we’re gonna see him bring in more and

0:14:52.860,0:14:56.789
more people of that nature that actually

0:14:54.749,0:14:58.860
kind of agree and understand and have

0:14:56.789,0:15:00.389
that strategic concept and he’s going to

0:14:58.860,0:15:03.899
have more freedom to start to pick who

0:15:00.389,0:15:06.119
he wants that fits that criteria one of

0:15:03.899,0:15:07.829
the reasons I also mentioned Jimmy

0:15:06.119,0:15:10.470
Carter is this whole freakin mess with

0:15:07.829,0:15:12.629
Iran is we’re still cleaning up the mess

0:15:10.470,0:15:14.999
at Jimmy Carter we have this Iranian

0:15:12.629,0:15:16.649
problem because of Jimmy Carter and he

0:15:14.999,0:15:21.130
chased out the Shah of Iran

0:15:16.649,0:15:23.650
with no plan to to backfill against that

0:15:21.130,0:15:25.990
and and created a democracy or some sort

0:15:23.650,0:15:28.060
of stable Iran that would help the

0:15:25.990,0:15:30.760
Middle East be a stable place and he

0:15:28.060,0:15:33.640
just undercut the Shah chased him out

0:15:30.760,0:15:36.190
and created chaos and that chaos there

0:15:33.640,0:15:38.110
was the iran-iraq war as hundreds of

0:15:36.190,0:15:40.720
thousands of people killed a terrain

0:15:38.110,0:15:43.180
Iran Iran supporting attacks against our

0:15:40.720,0:15:45.310
soldiers and IEDs and all those things

0:15:43.180,0:15:47.530
and thousands of our soldiers killed as

0:15:45.310,0:15:49.990
a result and this is a this all goes

0:15:47.530,0:15:52.210
back to Jimmy Carter this is his doing

0:15:49.990,0:15:55.000
and are still cleaning up the mess from

0:15:52.210,0:15:57.640
him and you know let’s not forget and

0:15:55.000,0:15:59.770
you know wandering a bit on the subject

0:15:57.640,0:16:02.080
matter but you know we have similar

0:15:59.770,0:16:04.120
things out of the presidency of Clinton

0:16:02.080,0:16:05.710
you know the the Bosnian affair that he

0:16:04.120,0:16:07.600
did the war that was there and the peace

0:16:05.710,0:16:09.100
settlement that was forced upon the

0:16:07.600,0:16:10.750
people there is the same thing the

0:16:09.100,0:16:12.970
Fighting’s not over there the way this

0:16:10.750,0:16:15.310
this this peace that was imposed is not

0:16:12.970,0:16:17.320
a peace it’s it’s an armistice for now

0:16:15.310,0:16:19.630
and it’s in and there will be more

0:16:17.320,0:16:21.670
shooting and killing in that area once

0:16:19.630,0:16:23.320
the the pressure is taken off and the

0:16:21.670,0:16:24.730
international troops are removed which

0:16:23.320,0:16:27.580
are still there we still have troops

0:16:24.730,0:16:29.290
there and they they can’t stay forever

0:16:27.580,0:16:30.640
and it’s one of the things the president

0:16:29.290,0:16:32.290
is said as he wants to start pulling

0:16:30.640,0:16:33.850
back from all these things so we’re

0:16:32.290,0:16:34.570
gonna have we’re still thinking up the

0:16:33.850,0:16:36.100
Jimmy Carter

0:16:34.570,0:16:38.530
we still have cleaning up out of the

0:16:36.100,0:16:42.070
idiocy of the Clinton presidency as well

0:16:38.530,0:16:45.180
and these these every time they get in

0:16:42.070,0:16:47.440
charge they make a mess of things and

0:16:45.180,0:16:49.150
this is this is one of the things like I

0:16:47.440,0:16:52.510
said that this president is the

0:16:49.150,0:16:54.640
extremely bright man that has got this

0:16:52.510,0:16:56.650
stuff figured out and the more I watched

0:16:54.640,0:16:59.620
the more I observed the more I see him

0:16:56.650,0:17:00.160
do these things the guys you know I I

0:16:59.620,0:17:02.050
don’t

0:17:00.160,0:17:04.810
maybe genius is too strong a word but it

0:17:02.050,0:17:05.890
extraordinary bright man and has grasped

0:17:04.810,0:17:08.380
this situation

0:17:05.890,0:17:10.870
she’s China behind the scenes pulling

0:17:08.380,0:17:14.380
the strings Cesar in acting up and has

0:17:10.870,0:17:17.920
created a balanced approach to this that

0:17:14.380,0:17:20.290
that like I said I wasn’t get at least

0:17:17.920,0:17:23.740
say a three to five point bump in his in

0:17:20.290,0:17:25.960
his positives on this I would be deeply

0:17:23.740,0:17:28.270
surprised and I I think what he’s done

0:17:25.960,0:17:31.000
now is set the trend because he just

0:17:28.270,0:17:33.920
looks so presidential and shows that he

0:17:31.000,0:17:35.360
understands the situation so I’m greatly

0:17:33.920,0:17:40.010
I mean I really think we’re on the right

0:17:35.360,0:17:42.050
track here and these the tariffs that

0:17:40.010,0:17:44.870
he’s placed on the Chinese I mean that’s

0:17:42.050,0:17:47.720
addressing the problem and a lot of

0:17:44.870,0:17:49.850
people don’t recognize the value of what

0:17:47.720,0:17:52.130
he’s doing there and if you look back at

0:17:49.850,0:17:54.710
the way we defeated the Soviet Union

0:17:52.130,0:17:56.690
with Reagan this is these are the things

0:17:54.710,0:17:58.100
that Reagan did to the Soviet Union a

0:17:56.690,0:18:00.950
lot of what was going on under the

0:17:58.100,0:18:02.780
Soviet Union they were getting financial

0:18:00.950,0:18:04.910
help out of the United States of America

0:18:02.780,0:18:06.170
because of these liberal movements

0:18:04.910,0:18:08.480
trying to do these things where they

0:18:06.170,0:18:10.550
would they would provide financing and

0:18:08.480,0:18:12.170
support and all of that for Russian

0:18:10.550,0:18:14.720
efforts all that stuff got cut off and

0:18:12.170,0:18:17.330
so they went broke they just absolutely

0:18:14.720,0:18:19.130
went broke because the pipeline of

0:18:17.330,0:18:21.050
anything coming in was just went dead

0:18:19.130,0:18:23.150
that’s how we defeated the Soviet Union

0:18:21.050,0:18:24.410
that’s how Reagan did it so we need to

0:18:23.150,0:18:27.440
repeat that for the Chinese and

0:18:24.410,0:18:30.500
President Trump seems to grasp that let

0:18:27.440,0:18:34.010
me give you just a case in point the

0:18:30.500,0:18:36.050
Chinese now nobody was surprised by this

0:18:34.010,0:18:38.210
I hope that’s listening to this the

0:18:36.050,0:18:40.790
Chinese you know totalitarian communist

0:18:38.210,0:18:43.280
government they control the country

0:18:40.790,0:18:46.210
against the will of the Chinese people

0:18:43.280,0:18:49.190
we saw that back in Tiananmen Square and

0:18:46.210,0:18:51.470
sent it’s it’s it’s it’s never recovered

0:18:49.190,0:18:53.450
from that and now the Chinese have

0:18:51.470,0:18:55.370
continued to grab stronger and stronger

0:18:53.450,0:18:57.290
to control they allow a few things to go

0:18:55.370,0:19:00.050
on to have the economy be able to

0:18:57.290,0:19:01.460
sputter long and at all and these

0:19:00.050,0:19:03.710
tariffs are really hurting them they’re

0:19:01.460,0:19:05.330
in some financial trouble here that I

0:19:03.710,0:19:07.670
think is part of the motive as to why

0:19:05.330,0:19:08.930
you see Iran acting up remember I as I

0:19:07.670,0:19:11.690
mentioned there’s out there’s other

0:19:08.930,0:19:13.270
stuff going on here and part of that or

0:19:11.690,0:19:15.260
a big part of that of the Cheney’s

0:19:13.270,0:19:19.160
because that’s how they can fight back

0:19:15.260,0:19:21.430
through a surrogate so the Chinese in is

0:19:19.160,0:19:24.500
going back to my point the Chinese have

0:19:21.430,0:19:28.040
50 million surveillance cameras all over

0:19:24.500,0:19:30.260
China 50 million I mean even in a

0:19:28.040,0:19:32.120
country of a billion people plus that’s

0:19:30.260,0:19:34.580
still a lot of surveillance cameras

0:19:32.120,0:19:36.590
everywhere every street corner even out

0:19:34.580,0:19:39.230
in the rural areas in the villages they

0:19:36.590,0:19:41.510
have these surveillance cameras fifty

0:19:39.230,0:19:44.120
million that’s a lot of capital

0:19:41.510,0:19:45.770
investment that’s a lot of money to to

0:19:44.120,0:19:47.390
put out there where did that come from

0:19:45.770,0:19:49.460
US stock market

0:19:47.390,0:19:51.410
the company that builds those came is is

0:19:49.460,0:19:53.150
on the stock market here in the United

0:19:51.410,0:19:54.770
States and they get investors to put in

0:19:53.150,0:19:56.660
in their producing all these cameras

0:19:54.770,0:19:58.820
which gets brought up and used and put

0:19:56.660,0:20:01.010
all over but the capital to pump into

0:19:58.820,0:20:04.549
that system comes from the United States

0:20:01.010,0:20:06.830
out of the stock market and part of the

0:20:04.549,0:20:08.330
problem on all of this is the Chinese

0:20:06.830,0:20:11.080
companies and their usage of this

0:20:08.330,0:20:14.960
equipment doesn’t have to be declared

0:20:11.080,0:20:16.490
and made public information well I mean

0:20:14.960,0:20:18.799
theoretically we’d be supposed to I

0:20:16.490,0:20:20.240
suppose as a US company would if US

0:20:18.799,0:20:22.160
companies using equipment to do these

0:20:20.240,0:20:24.110
sorts of things that would need to be

0:20:22.160,0:20:26.419
that’s material information it would

0:20:24.110,0:20:28.160
need to be disclosed so that people

0:20:26.419,0:20:30.740
investing that company would be aware of

0:20:28.160,0:20:31.850
it well I guess technically the Chinese

0:20:30.740,0:20:34.040
are probably supposed to make those

0:20:31.850,0:20:36.049
disclosures but they don’t so people

0:20:34.040,0:20:37.549
investment company I’m no idea that

0:20:36.049,0:20:40.580
that’s what this is that this is part of

0:20:37.549,0:20:42.620
the control over the Chinese people that

0:20:40.580,0:20:43.820
continue to subjugate them under the

0:20:42.620,0:20:45.500
control of the central communist

0:20:43.820,0:20:47.240
government so I mean these are the types

0:20:45.500,0:20:49.100
of things that’s just an example as I

0:20:47.240,0:20:51.020
was saying of the type of things that

0:20:49.100,0:20:53.660
have to be cut off to the Chinese

0:20:51.020,0:20:57.230
Communist government so that that

0:20:53.660,0:21:00.020
economic noose continues to close so

0:20:57.230,0:21:02.000
that we can do to them what we did to

0:21:00.020,0:21:04.220
the Soviet Union and that’s forced them

0:21:02.000,0:21:05.690
into essentially capitulating from being

0:21:04.220,0:21:08.419
this centralized government stealing

0:21:05.690,0:21:10.429
from the world with imperialist design

0:21:08.419,0:21:11.840
and and we all know what that that’s

0:21:10.429,0:21:15.410
what the Chinese are up to they’re

0:21:11.840,0:21:17.419
trying to use Bitcoin and different

0:21:15.410,0:21:19.730
methodologies that they can to control

0:21:17.419,0:21:21.559
trade and different areas of the world

0:21:19.730,0:21:23.660
and building these islands out in the

0:21:21.559,0:21:25.760
South China Sea and militarizing them

0:21:23.660,0:21:28.070
putting airports on them and being able

0:21:25.760,0:21:29.809
to land aircraft on those to control

0:21:28.070,0:21:31.610
those those areas and those are trade

0:21:29.809,0:21:33.500
routes those are trade routes so they’re

0:21:31.610,0:21:35.360
trying to control the money they’re

0:21:33.500,0:21:37.910
trying to control Africa they have very

0:21:35.360,0:21:39.500
aggressive Loan policy in Africa where

0:21:37.910,0:21:41.240
they’ll come in to these governments

0:21:39.500,0:21:43.580
that nobody’s really doing much for and

0:21:41.240,0:21:46.250
they’ll say yeah sure you know you want

0:21:43.580,0:21:47.990
a new airport you want you know a new

0:21:46.250,0:21:49.460
roads although yeah sure we’ll do it and

0:21:47.990,0:21:51.260
what they do is they have very

0:21:49.460,0:21:53.299
aggressive loan policies and they come

0:21:51.260,0:21:56.090
in and these guys can’t possibly pay

0:21:53.299,0:21:58.640
back these loans and that are userís in

0:21:56.090,0:22:00.040
nature and so then they the changes come

0:21:58.640,0:22:01.120
you say okay well you have a paper

0:22:00.040,0:22:02.560
so we’re taking this and we’re taking

0:22:01.120,0:22:04.720
this and we’re taking this so they’re

0:22:02.560,0:22:07.420
slowly taking over Africa they have

0:22:04.720,0:22:10.210
tremendous influence in Europe now we’re

0:22:07.420,0:22:12.520
seeing of course their they’ve long had

0:22:10.210,0:22:14.170
ambition to control as much of Asia as

0:22:12.520,0:22:16.240
possible which is why you see the

0:22:14.170,0:22:17.980
conflict with you know certainly Japan

0:22:16.240,0:22:20.950
and other countries in the area that are

0:22:17.980,0:22:23.380
that are economic you know power out I

0:22:20.950,0:22:25.800
believe China’s also got major ports

0:22:23.380,0:22:29.290
built it and connected to Pakistan and

0:22:25.800,0:22:31.120
maybe encouraging some of the conflict

0:22:29.290,0:22:32.890
between Pakistan and India and saying

0:22:31.120,0:22:35.740
also in some areas that we don’t

0:22:32.890,0:22:37.690
typically hear about absolutely

0:22:35.740,0:22:39.520
absolutely and at the same time you know

0:22:37.690,0:22:41.830
for the leaders they’re building whole

0:22:39.520,0:22:43.510
cities of concentration camps I mean you

0:22:41.830,0:22:45.160
there’s been photographs put out in

0:22:43.510,0:22:47.590
public where you can see you know it

0:22:45.160,0:22:49.780
looks like the overhead photography of

0:22:47.590,0:22:51.820
the concentration camps at the Germans

0:22:49.780,0:22:53.380
built you know big long rows of houses

0:22:51.820,0:22:55.510
with walls around them and all that it

0:22:53.380,0:22:57.330
looks just the same now I’m not

0:22:55.510,0:22:59.500
suggesting they’ve got you know

0:22:57.330,0:23:01.330
extermination camps with gas and all of

0:22:59.500,0:23:02.860
that for the leaguers but certainly

0:23:01.330,0:23:05.170
holding them prisoner and keeping them

0:23:02.860,0:23:06.640
in these reeducation camps and of course

0:23:05.170,0:23:08.470
they’re not political prisoners because

0:23:06.640,0:23:09.970
obviously they’re crazy if they don’t

0:23:08.470,0:23:11.320
support the Chinese Communist government

0:23:09.970,0:23:13.150
because they’re the greatest thing since

0:23:11.320,0:23:14.950
sliced bread so to enter their

0:23:13.150,0:23:17.170
non-standard brosman is standard

0:23:14.950,0:23:20.290
communist modus operandi on that exactly

0:23:17.170,0:23:25.000
right exactly right so like I say this

0:23:20.290,0:23:28.420
is this very complex big bala

0:23:25.000,0:23:30.130
you know mass here and and yet we see

0:23:28.420,0:23:32.920
the the president united states weaving

0:23:30.130,0:23:35.140
his way through this nicely coming out

0:23:32.920,0:23:37.510
looking presidential so my prediction

0:23:35.140,0:23:39.190
here now is as i kind of referred to

0:23:37.510,0:23:43.750
earlier i think you’re going to see the

0:23:39.190,0:23:46.840
president be a lot more selective and

0:23:43.750,0:23:49.990
specific on who he starts bringing in to

0:23:46.840,0:23:51.550
all of these positions and he’s got a

0:23:49.990,0:23:55.360
problem i mean people talk about the

0:23:51.550,0:23:57.220
deep state but i really describe it

0:23:55.360,0:24:03.220
otherwise but it’s true it’s there it’s

0:23:57.220,0:24:05.020
at the CIA the FBI DOJ NSA but you’ve

0:24:03.220,0:24:06.580
what you’ve got is a cadre of people at

0:24:05.020,0:24:08.920
the top that are very liberal there are

0:24:06.580,0:24:12.100
democrats first and public servants

0:24:08.920,0:24:14.890
second and so they they serve that

0:24:12.100,0:24:17.350
democratic party those democratic party

0:24:14.890,0:24:20.200
goals and of course that’s get rid of

0:24:17.350,0:24:23.140
trump so you that whole pipeline of

0:24:20.200,0:24:25.420
leadership and leadership is is almost

0:24:23.140,0:24:28.060
universally of that ilk you know there

0:24:25.420,0:24:31.660
apparatchik democratic party apparatchik

0:24:28.060,0:24:33.220
you know staffer types that that now run

0:24:31.660,0:24:35.020
the show and all these organizations and

0:24:33.220,0:24:37.660
this is one of the things that president

0:24:35.020,0:24:38.800
has not really moved on yet and i don’t

0:24:37.660,0:24:39.850
know that that was what he meant by

0:24:38.800,0:24:41.980
draining the swamp that’s what i

0:24:39.850,0:24:43.990
understood him to mean but he’s not

0:24:41.980,0:24:44.230
working on that so i don’t know we’ll

0:24:43.990,0:24:46.420
see

0:24:44.230,0:24:49.300
as he selectively brings these people in

0:24:46.420,0:24:51.250
like attorney general bar perhaps

0:24:49.300,0:24:53.350
perhaps he’s going to move on some of

0:24:51.250,0:24:55.840
these other issues too but i think it’s

0:24:53.350,0:24:56.380
going to start at NSC when john bolton

0:24:55.840,0:25:01.840
leaves

0:24:56.380,0:25:03.190
perhaps in the next couple months brad

0:25:01.840,0:25:04.930
johnson thank you very much that was a

0:25:03.190,0:25:07.660
great update it makes a lot of sense and

0:25:04.930,0:25:09.100
it’s pretty encouraging we’ll speak to

0:25:07.660,0:25:10.960
you again as soon as i’m sure there’s

0:25:09.100,0:25:12.790
gonna be more events in the near future

0:25:10.960,0:25:14.890
and they’re gonna need some clarity so

0:25:12.790,0:25:18.360
we’ll I’ll call you back then thank you

0:25:14.890,0:25:18.360
all right thank you

0:25:47.080,0:25:50.290
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