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all right the Director of National
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Intelligence puts out a it’s not an
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annual report it comes out every four
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years and and so this is the fourth year
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just in January and January
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twenty-second it came out the press
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release came out dan coates is the
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Director of National Intelligence and
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it’s the National Intelligence strategy
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is the actual name of the document that
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comes out every four years so it’s a
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significant document it represents all
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seventeen agencies that make up the
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intelligence community which this was
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kind of a another layer of bureaucracy
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that was created right after 9/11 during
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the Bush administration and he took what
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you know the blue ruin panel of people
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to put together what to do to increase
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security and make everything operate
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better the Director of National
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Intelligence DHS Department of Homeland
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Security here in the US all of those
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things were inventions that came out of
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this aftermath of 9/11 and it’s it’s one
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of the things that I perennial II argue
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about I mean what was actually
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accomplished by this reorganization and
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what they did was they took a bunch of
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old politicians bunch of bureaucrats you
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know like dan coates himself who was a
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u.s. congressman for a while and a u.s.
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senator and he did have some time on an
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oversight committee but that was it he
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doesn’t have any experience in
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intelligence and took people like that
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and put them on this blue-ribbon
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Commission and what what does a bunch of
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bureaucrats get together and create they
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get together and create more bureaucracy
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you know if you had wanted the United
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States and the rest of the Western world
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to be safer following 9/11 what you
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should have done is put together a
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blue-ribbon panel of operators hey I
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think you come from law enforcement and
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intelligence and military you know the
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combination would be good put together
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those operators and what are you gonna
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get you’re gonna get recommendations on
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how to do better operations and how do
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you make yourself safer against
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terrorism through operations not
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bureaucracy bureaucracies is always
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going to be an impediment it can’t be
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anything else but an impediment however
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that said what we have is this this
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every four years this report that comes
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out and really what I wanted to focus on
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is you what was covered in the press
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release the initial press release that
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came out which was a one long page
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document it wasn’t a huge thing their
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report itself is actually much longer we
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can touch on what’s in there and in
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another report but or another interview
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that we do but what I found very
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interesting is they talked about the
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2019 NIS national tub and strategy focus
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and they named four things in that dock
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in the press release as the focus of
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what this report is about and I find
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extraordinarily revealing you know from
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kind of an insider a former swamp
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dweller like myself and just looking at
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how it was stated the first two are our
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integration and innovation which it’s
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they say right in there and the press
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release you know the the the right
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information to the right people at the
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right time with the right technology all
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this to make everything run better well
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you know that’s kind of that the typical
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government response to you know how to
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write a report and then basically you
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can file that under B in your file
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cabinet for blah blah because that’s all
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that is you know we it basically says we
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want to do a really really really good
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job and that’s the essence of those
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first two things in their focus yeah
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okay but you know in government
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reporting there’s a lot of things about
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working in the government that doesn’t
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surprise anyone I’m sure but a 100 page
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report is clearly more important than a
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ten page report because it’s a hundred
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pages so that’s how these documents are
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written so there’s always a lot of basic
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filler mixed in but now the meat of it
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was added on after the filler then comes
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where the real significance is and the
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two other things mentioned that are part
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of the NIS focus are partnerships and
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transparency now for me part of what’s
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interesting out of all of this is that
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there’s been zero recording on that
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nobody has touched on it this is we I’ve
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done an op-ed on it and and and this
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this interview and probably I’ll touch
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on it hopefully some other venues as
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well but but that’s it you know nobody’s
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really touching on what those things
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mean now what it actually says is
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partnerships leveraging strong unique
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and valuable partnerships to support and
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enable
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national security outcomes transparency
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earning it up and upholding the trust
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and faith of the ICC’s customers and the
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American people okay but the real
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significance of those things like I said
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hasn’t been touched on now partnerships
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what does that mean
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now I’m my focus here is on the human
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the human intelligence aspect of it but
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that human intelligence aspect in many
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ways it’s not the only game in town
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there’s a lot of other very important
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methods of collection of information but
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a lot of it is driven by human human
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tends to be the center of these things
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it doesn’t mean that it you know creates
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all the collection but let’s just take
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an example a satellite photo photography
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and things that are from space or
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aircraft or even tapping phones and what
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safe house to look at all of those sorts
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of things are oftentimes originally
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those come from a human source a spy
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someone that through espionage we’ve
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recruited in another country to tell us
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what’s going on and he’ll say you know
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so-and-so mr. X over here at phone
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number you know one two three that guy
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is running this all this stuff over here
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so we know okay let’s go look at that
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phone number and he’ll say in his
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offices are over here and he’s stacking
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up equipment over there and we can send
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an aircraft over to take a look down and
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see what it is so as I say it sort of
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drives the engine of a lot of the other
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things that were used to collect the
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information even though it may not
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collect the information directly itself
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through the human source the spy it does
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tell us where to look to get to to
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gather that other information so very
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key to this so now partnerships what is
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what are they referring to and they say
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partnerships what they’re referring to
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are the liaison relationships that we
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have with foreign countries for example
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famously Canada most assuredly we have a
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very robust and positive relationship
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with Canadian intelligence same thing
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with England and many other countries
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there are a lot of countries that we
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have a less friendly relationship with
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China Russia Iran okay certainly North
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Korea that everyone everyone recognizes
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this is the truth but now what is our
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focus
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this report out of all the 17 agencies
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that that delve into intelligence one of
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their main concerns and focuses our
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partnerships okay again you know there’s
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nothing wrong with those partnerships
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but that shouldn’t be the focus I mean
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that should be an adjunct it should be
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part of it there’s a lot of positives
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that come out of that but when you’re
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going out and finding a spy at
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recruiting a spy through espionage
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partnerships are not espionage when
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you’re doing espionage you’re going out
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and finding a unilateral reporting
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source somebody that nobody knows is
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reporting to you nobody in the world
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knows only you know that that guy is
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telling you what he has to tell you that
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way the information is of value that can
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be trusted you can look at it now that
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source of course would have to be vetted
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you’d have to confirm that that is
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information is good but that’s how you
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get the good stuff but our focus is not
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on that our focus is on partnerships so
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you go to X service let’s just take that
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nap this is an example I’m not pulling
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from anything real but let’s just say
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you go to the Pakistanis now we have a
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relationship with the Pakistanis there
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are positive aspects to that
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relationship you go to them and say well
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we need a reporting source on X
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terrorist group for example again I’m
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just making this up but let’s say you go
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to them and say we need a reporting
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source on that there do yes sure okay
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here’s this guy now what are you getting
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what are you giving in exchange for that
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well of course it’s its money so the
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Pakistanis know that they want to give
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you somebody because they’re gonna get
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money for it so what possible motive do
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they have to really give you somebody
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any good they don’t I mean they could
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just give you their you know
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brother-in-law and say oh yeah he’s a
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reporting source on this terrorist group
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and then they feed him information and
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you give that guy money and he shares it
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with his for this family so it’s a money
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moneymaker for all of them the same
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thing for the service there’s no motive
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for them but you mean for example how
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the government of pakistan hideo-sama
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been Laden and a compound and about a
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bad for so long that’s right and they
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have they have a big mix of motives
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going on from their perspective and also
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so if you get a reporting source of that
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nature even if he actually does have
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as to what you want the Pakistani
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service knows about it now the Pakistani
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service two things one it shares
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information with other services so
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they’re just as likely to go to another
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service and say hey the Americans are
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talking to that guy now and he’s giving
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them information or they’re penetrated
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by another service like let’s say Iran
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and Iran has a Pakistani intelligence
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officer who tells them everything
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secretly he’s a spy for the Iranians and
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he tells them everything so the odds of
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that guy being a pure honest uncorrupted
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reporting source you know it’s pretty
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love and if another service knows about
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it well they can manipulate things to
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fit that and feed disinformation perhaps
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somehow there’s a lot of things that
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they could do to use that reporting
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source to their own advantage if they
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know that that’s who we go to to get
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information so that’s what partnerships
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are and again the focus here is just is
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human but this carries over into a lot
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of other things as well although other
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forms of collection intelligence
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collections so what you have are these
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partnerships that are well a useful
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aspect is certainly not the goal it
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shouldn’t be your focus it should be an
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adjunct I mean you should be doing
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everything all at the same time but now
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it brings us to that fourth point which
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is transparency so the the focus of the
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left has always been that espionage is
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an evil that shouldn’t be accepted after
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the fall of the Soviet Union there was a
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huge push by the Democrats and Congress
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to get rid of the CIA disbanded it was
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no longer needed and and that’s through
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history but all through the existence of
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the CIA’s repeated they popped up and
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and this is finally what was what was it
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was implemented and and why so
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transparency can now exist because as
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we’ve talked about in previous
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interviews former CIA director John
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Brennan implemented the modernization of
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the CIA in which he disbanded the
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Operations Directorate which was where
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espionage took place and he just created
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all the centers and so on this is all
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public information was talked about and
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then he went on an MPR interview and
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talked about how the CIA no longer does
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espionage well see that
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all trip oh that’s that’s the problem so
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if you’re not doing espionage going to a
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partnership partner like book Pakistani
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example I was using earlier and asking
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them to give you a reporting source
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that’s not illegal that’s not illegal by
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anybody’s laws so you can therefore have
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transparency because you’re not breaking
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the law you’re not doing anything
0:11:17.329,0:11:21.950
illegal so that’s with us that’s that
0:11:19.490,0:11:24.649
the supreme importance
0:11:21.950,0:11:26.390
it’s a degradation of our capability but
0:11:24.649,0:11:28.760
it’s supremely important that that
0:11:26.390,0:11:31.760
that’s the focus of our national
0:11:28.760,0:11:34.100
security strategy is partnerships and
0:11:31.760,0:11:38.660
transparency avoid doing anything
0:11:34.100,0:11:41.060
illegal to collect intelligence in order
0:11:38.660,0:11:45.290
to satisfy this sort of philosophical
0:11:41.060,0:11:47.600
whim of not breaking laws and like I
0:11:45.290,0:11:49.730
said they describe the problem the
0:11:47.600,0:11:50.839
essence of that problem is that you’re
0:11:49.730,0:11:52.820
no longer getting the very best
0:11:50.839,0:11:54.829
intelligence you’re no longer getting
0:11:52.820,0:11:56.720
intelligence you can really trust all
0:11:54.829,0:11:58.310
you’re doing is you’re paying money and
0:11:56.720,0:12:00.110
you’re getting what they say they’re
0:11:58.310,0:12:02.630
giving you you know for whatever reason
0:12:00.110,0:12:05.630
and I guarantee you a lot of those cases
0:12:02.630,0:12:07.760
are just lies made up by the by the guys
0:12:05.630,0:12:09.020
because they want the money and it could
0:12:07.760,0:12:11.600
be the service or it could be the
0:12:09.020,0:12:14.180
individual but all in all again like I
0:12:11.600,0:12:16.690
say what is their motive to ever come
0:12:14.180,0:12:19.520
through and give you something good
0:12:16.690,0:12:20.570
there isn’t one it’s just the only
0:12:19.520,0:12:22.970
reason they’re doing what they’re doing
0:12:20.570,0:12:25.490
is because they want the money and so
0:12:22.970,0:12:27.410
the only way you do this unilaterally
0:12:25.490,0:12:30.140
only one is it controlled and maintained
0:12:27.410,0:12:32.540
and carefully orchestrated by for
0:12:30.140,0:12:34.060
example in this case the CIA does this
0:12:32.540,0:12:36.700
making sense you get real information
0:12:34.060,0:12:39.770
that you can trust and count on and use
0:12:36.700,0:12:42.829
to inform the president and our policy
0:12:39.770,0:12:45.079
makers and so now we’ve gone astray I’m
0:12:42.829,0:12:46.940
bringing out all of the stuff this is
0:12:45.079,0:12:50.000
the essence of what now gets reported
0:12:46.940,0:12:51.860
back up in the briefings that take place
0:12:50.000,0:12:53.510
up on the hill into the present so on
0:12:51.860,0:12:54.170
and it’s based on all this stuff that’s
0:12:53.510,0:12:55.699
nonsense
0:12:54.170,0:12:57.470
or a large percentage of it it’s
0:12:55.699,0:12:59.390
nonsense I’m sure there’s currents of
0:12:57.470,0:13:01.970
truth sprinkled in through there too but
0:12:59.390,0:13:04.100
taken as a whole this is where the
0:13:01.970,0:13:07.670
national intelligence he’s just going
0:13:04.100,0:13:09.829
down the toilet you know it seems to me
0:13:07.670,0:13:10.990
that over the last several years I’ve
0:13:09.829,0:13:15.980
seen appalled
0:13:10.990,0:13:19.760
where the United States and many Western
0:13:15.980,0:13:21.770
nations actually have been confusing law
0:13:19.760,0:13:24.200
and order with military and I guess you
0:13:21.770,0:13:27.560
could also say intelligence directives
0:13:24.200,0:13:30.080
and even to the point where as I recall
0:13:27.560,0:13:33.950
under Obama they were reading Miranda
0:13:30.080,0:13:37.190
rights to to Taliban the dead captured
0:13:33.950,0:13:39.920
which seems to me to be a formula for a
0:13:37.190,0:13:42.320
loss I mean you can’t confuse law and
0:13:39.920,0:13:44.000
order issues with military or
0:13:42.320,0:13:47.900
intelligence bonds
0:13:44.000,0:13:49.460
the guy who robs the corner store is not
0:13:47.900,0:13:51.200
motivated by the same thing and the
0:13:49.460,0:13:53.800
consequence of dealing with it is
0:13:51.200,0:13:56.000
different than the guy who was a
0:13:53.800,0:13:57.740
political ambition and is waging
0:13:56.000,0:14:00.110
terrorism and what you’re describing
0:13:57.740,0:14:03.760
sounds an awful lot like they’re now
0:14:00.110,0:14:05.480
systemically confusing those two issues
0:14:03.760,0:14:08.240
that’s precisely right
0:14:05.480,0:14:11.290
that is exactly another aspect of this
0:14:08.240,0:14:17.270
same problem that I’m describing and
0:14:11.290,0:14:20.540
unfortunately this this is it’s a small
0:14:17.270,0:14:22.850
of world in intelligence the operations
0:14:20.540,0:14:24.710
of intelligence not so much the analysis
0:14:22.850,0:14:26.540
but the operations in the collection
0:14:24.710,0:14:29.300
where the where you get the information
0:14:26.540,0:14:31.100
is a small world and misunderstood by
0:14:29.300,0:14:33.170
almost everybody a lot of people think
0:14:31.100,0:14:35.510
they know a lot of people you know claim
0:14:33.170,0:14:37.700
to know and all of these things like dan
0:14:35.510,0:14:39.740
coates now dan coates I think is a fine
0:14:37.700,0:14:41.330
gentleman you know he used us a set of
0:14:39.740,0:14:45.110
congressman a senator for many years I
0:14:41.330,0:14:46.490
don’t I’m not critical of him per se but
0:14:45.110,0:14:48.110
I’m critical of the fact that he was
0:14:46.490,0:14:50.450
selected to be in charge for national
0:14:48.110,0:14:52.040
security if you look at the pentagon you
0:14:50.450,0:14:53.750
know how often do people get picked out
0:14:52.040,0:14:55.820
of out of the pentagon to run the whole
0:14:53.750,0:14:59.450
show that are just like some former
0:14:55.820,0:15:01.670
bureaucrat you know that ran you know or
0:14:59.450,0:15:04.190
had an office in the senate so he’s on a
0:15:01.670,0:15:05.870
military Oversight Committee of some
0:15:04.190,0:15:07.550
sort you know the budget and so on does
0:15:05.870,0:15:09.620
that does that mean he should be running
0:15:07.550,0:15:11.660
the war machine at the Pentagon it does
0:15:09.620,0:15:14.540
not and that’s not you picked to fill
0:15:11.660,0:15:16.910
that slot the same thing goes for the
0:15:14.540,0:15:18.890
FBI you don’t tend to see people go into
0:15:16.910,0:15:21.650
the leadership be that the head of the
0:15:18.890,0:15:23.480
FBI or DOJ for that matter
0:15:21.650,0:15:26.630
that don’t come out of that background
0:15:23.480,0:15:29.300
would you pick a non-lawyer non law
0:15:26.630,0:15:31.670
enforcement guy to be head of FBI or DHA
0:15:29.300,0:15:33.290
well no and it just doesn’t it’s very
0:15:31.670,0:15:35.450
rare for anything of that nature to
0:15:33.290,0:15:37.640
happen but intelligence it’s always that
0:15:35.450,0:15:39.500
way it’s there’s never anybody in charge
0:15:37.640,0:15:41.150
of intelligence very rare that there’s
0:15:39.500,0:15:43.250
anybody charge of intelligence it
0:15:41.150,0:15:44.810
actually comes out of that background
0:15:43.250,0:15:47.060
has ever run an operation in their lives
0:15:44.810,0:15:49.280
so you’ve got a guy like Dan Coates and
0:15:47.060,0:15:52.520
I said again I said no no real criticism
0:15:49.280,0:15:54.950
of him per se but he doesn’t know he
0:15:52.520,0:15:56.360
just doesn’t understand I think if he
0:15:54.950,0:15:57.530
were to listen to this and heard what I
0:15:56.360,0:15:59.240
just said of it he I mean he probably
0:15:57.530,0:16:01.490
think it’s crazy because he doesn’t know
0:15:59.240,0:16:03.110
enough to judge he has no background in
0:16:01.490,0:16:05.030
it being on an intelligence Oversight
0:16:03.110,0:16:06.620
Committee all that does is let you read
0:16:05.030,0:16:08.990
some intelligence so you’re a consumer
0:16:06.620,0:16:10.760
you’re not a producer and there’s a big
0:16:08.990,0:16:13.100
difference between those two things so
0:16:10.760,0:16:14.420
how are you the one to decide how
0:16:13.100,0:16:15.890
production should be handled if you’ve
0:16:14.420,0:16:17.270
never done in your life and probably
0:16:15.890,0:16:18.320
don’t even know anybody that’s ever done
0:16:17.270,0:16:20.270
it in their life because they don’t talk
0:16:18.320,0:16:21.440
to people like me that are the guys that
0:16:20.270,0:16:25.700
have actually done this stuff for
0:16:21.440,0:16:28.760
decades so but yes absolutely the way
0:16:25.700,0:16:30.140
law enforcement has been sort of given
0:16:28.760,0:16:32.300
the heavy lifting in a lot of these
0:16:30.140,0:16:34.460
things is a precise reflection of that
0:16:32.300,0:16:36.170
they’ve the Obama administration in
0:16:34.460,0:16:38.390
particular not the Trump administration
0:16:36.170,0:16:41.360
in this case but the bomb administration
0:16:38.390,0:16:43.460
tried to make terrorism a legal problem
0:16:41.360,0:16:44.900
and again something you know for law
0:16:43.460,0:16:46.070
enforcement which is again something
0:16:44.900,0:16:48.950
we’ve talked about in different
0:16:46.070,0:16:51.140
references a number of times but the
0:16:48.950,0:16:53.240
initial Fort Hood attack that’s one of
0:16:51.140,0:16:55.130
the reasons it was called a workplace
0:16:53.240,0:16:56.990
violence incident versus a terrorist
0:16:55.130,0:16:58.700
attack because then you just put the guy
0:16:56.990,0:17:00.650
into the court system and he gets
0:16:58.700,0:17:02.660
convicted for murder or whatever the
0:17:00.650,0:17:05.510
whatever the various crimes are that
0:17:02.660,0:17:07.580
he’s committed and it’s taken care of
0:17:05.510,0:17:09.800
all neat and sweet and and there’s and
0:17:07.580,0:17:11.390
there’s no there’s no pieces hanging out
0:17:09.800,0:17:13.340
over the edge and no need to go off and
0:17:11.390,0:17:14.600
do something else because the president
0:17:13.340,0:17:16.970
under President Obama they didn’t want
0:17:14.600,0:17:18.620
to face the central underlying issues of
0:17:16.970,0:17:20.480
these things but that’s exactly right
0:17:18.620,0:17:22.910
that’s why they started to get into
0:17:20.480,0:17:24.740
Miranda rights for captured warriors I
0:17:22.910,0:17:27.050
mean just imagine in world war two every
0:17:24.740,0:17:28.880
captured German or or Japanese soldiers
0:17:27.050,0:17:30.470
you rot you’re in their Miranda rights
0:17:28.880,0:17:32.990
and bring back in the United States and
0:17:30.470,0:17:35.390
try them in court I mean it’s just
0:17:32.990,0:17:37.850
insanity and it’s just it’s all based
0:17:35.390,0:17:40.400
ignorance and it’s all based on leftist
0:17:37.850,0:17:42.710
philosophy and again the underlying
0:17:40.400,0:17:46.040
bottom-line problem out of all of that
0:17:42.710,0:17:48.350
is it’s such a degradation of our
0:17:46.040,0:17:50.090
capability to collect intelligence to
0:17:48.350,0:17:51.920
know what our enemies are planning and
0:17:50.090,0:17:53.840
what their intense are that it’s very
0:17:51.920,0:17:55.700
dangerous and it’s oh it’s been getting
0:17:53.840,0:17:57.440
people killed for already for a very
0:17:55.700,0:17:59.750
long time and more people are going to
0:17:57.440,0:18:01.700
die by because of these sorts of
0:17:59.750,0:18:04.309
decisions and it’s a something that
0:18:01.700,0:18:06.080
unfortunately even in the current
0:18:04.309,0:18:07.910
administration President Trump is not
0:18:06.080,0:18:09.860
surrounded by people that understand
0:18:07.910,0:18:11.600
this well enough to act on it and the
0:18:09.860,0:18:14.470
ones that he is surrounded by again are
0:18:11.600,0:18:17.210
from this leftist philosophy that that
0:18:14.470,0:18:19.460
like take Gina has well for example she
0:18:17.210,0:18:21.620
was an acolyte of and close to John
0:18:19.460,0:18:23.750
Brennan John Brennan was the one that
0:18:21.620,0:18:26.210
implemented this this this philosophy
0:18:23.750,0:18:27.380
that says espionage is bad now we’re
0:18:26.210,0:18:30.740
doing it through these other means
0:18:27.380,0:18:32.419
through our partners and you haven’t
0:18:30.740,0:18:34.370
seen her turn it around having she is
0:18:32.419,0:18:36.500
not criticizing it and she’s career
0:18:34.370,0:18:38.330
she’s a career person so she knows
0:18:36.500,0:18:39.860
better but doesn’t agree with it
0:18:38.330,0:18:41.960
philosophically so she lets this go
0:18:39.860,0:18:43.460
forward so it’s it’s a it’s a real
0:18:41.960,0:18:44.929
problem like I said it’s gotten people
0:18:43.460,0:18:47.840
killed it’s going to get people killed
0:18:44.929,0:18:50.120
and and hopefully there won’t be another
0:18:47.840,0:18:52.040
9/11 as a result of just not getting her
0:18:50.120,0:18:53.510
head out of the hole in the sand I was
0:18:52.040,0:18:57.290
gonna say something worse but I’ll stick
0:18:53.510,0:19:01.400
with that sand and Brad I hate to ask
0:18:57.290,0:19:04.130
this but I just got to ask is is there
0:19:01.400,0:19:07.640
any way that this incredible sort of
0:19:04.130,0:19:09.470
reshaping of the organization of the
0:19:07.640,0:19:12.049
various intelligence agencies is it in
0:19:09.470,0:19:15.470
any way connected to the endless and
0:19:12.049,0:19:18.350
pointless Trump Russia investigation
0:19:15.470,0:19:22.700
that was clearly based on manufactured
0:19:18.350,0:19:25.160
file well I would answer them the
0:19:22.700,0:19:28.880
typical went elegent fashion I yes I
0:19:25.160,0:19:31.970
would say well yes and no yes I mean I
0:19:28.880,0:19:33.740
think part of that the this this thing
0:19:31.970,0:19:35.960
that I’m describing is a type of
0:19:33.740,0:19:36.950
corruption now it’s not the type of
0:19:35.960,0:19:38.419
corruption where it’s a commercial
0:19:36.950,0:19:40.910
corruption we’re going out and getting
0:19:38.419,0:19:42.650
paid money for it or so on but that type
0:19:40.910,0:19:45.110
of corruption has existed in some degree
0:19:42.650,0:19:47.059
as well if you look at the AG reports
0:19:45.110,0:19:48.010
that have been done on the FBI some of
0:19:47.059,0:19:50.290
these FBI
0:19:48.010,0:19:52.270
that were all part of the Spicer report
0:19:50.290,0:19:54.880
and request that came out were getting
0:19:52.270,0:19:56.740
payoffs from reporters
0:19:54.880,0:19:58.540
now payoff wasn’t in the form of like
0:19:56.740,0:20:00.340
okay here’s a thousand dollars in cash
0:19:58.540,0:20:03.250
under the table but it was a thing
0:20:00.340,0:20:05.230
getting invited to very difficult to get
0:20:03.250,0:20:07.000
into advance that word expensive to buy
0:20:05.230,0:20:10.270
the tickets and so on so we’re given
0:20:07.000,0:20:12.610
things of value now those can be illegal
0:20:10.270,0:20:14.380
or against regulations and two different
0:20:12.610,0:20:16.000
degrees depending but that’s clear
0:20:14.380,0:20:21.300
corruption and nothing was done about it
0:20:16.000,0:20:25.210
by the way and so you have this
0:20:21.300,0:20:26.920
atmosphere of this type of political
0:20:25.210,0:20:30.310
corruption where these things can go
0:20:26.920,0:20:32.680
forward and then that got melded into
0:20:30.310,0:20:34.810
this political hatred of Trump I think
0:20:32.680,0:20:39.280
the driving force of it is this hatred
0:20:34.810,0:20:42.190
by the the left for conservativism
0:20:39.280,0:20:45.610
mainly but Trump really in particular
0:20:42.190,0:20:47.590
now because he’s not part of the you
0:20:45.610,0:20:50.050
know anointed ones out of the swamp who
0:20:47.590,0:20:53.380
are self declared to be the leadership
0:20:50.050,0:20:55.030
for life of the United States so they
0:20:53.380,0:20:56.790
hate him in particular and that’s where
0:20:55.030,0:20:58.900
you saw those two things just happen
0:20:56.790,0:21:00.670
serendipitously from their perspective
0:20:58.900,0:21:02.980
to come together you have this kind of
0:21:00.670,0:21:05.710
political corruption at DOJ and FBI in
0:21:02.980,0:21:07.510
particular where that got combined up
0:21:05.710,0:21:09.340
with the Hillary Clinton campaign and
0:21:07.510,0:21:11.560
they took a look at it and said hey we
0:21:09.340,0:21:13.050
can put this together and go after the
0:21:11.560,0:21:15.490
Republicans in general and Trump
0:21:13.050,0:21:18.520
specifically and that’s where you then
0:21:15.490,0:21:20.770
saw for example the FISA requests that
0:21:18.520,0:21:22.750
went to the FISA Court judge who signed
0:21:20.770,0:21:26.620
off on it now just for example out of
0:21:22.750,0:21:28.120
that those were signed by FBI and DOJ
0:21:26.620,0:21:31.210
leadership and what’s happened to those
0:21:28.120,0:21:33.280
people they lot knowingly lied on the on
0:21:31.210,0:21:35.860
the affidavit that they had to sign when
0:21:33.280,0:21:37.210
they turned in the FISA requests stating
0:21:35.860,0:21:37.990
that they believed everything to be true
0:21:37.210,0:21:40.300
that was in there
0:21:37.990,0:21:41.890
what’s that judge done nothing you know
0:21:40.300,0:21:44.530
what’s anybody doing about it nothing
0:21:41.890,0:21:46.750
you know at the very least there are
0:21:44.530,0:21:49.000
some there are some legal violations
0:21:46.750,0:21:53.350
there but and some regulatory violations
0:21:49.000,0:21:54.820
there and nobody’s doing it so yes hey
0:21:53.350,0:21:58.320
there’s the atmosphere that was the
0:21:54.820,0:22:03.010
place mine with this money
0:21:58.320,0:22:04.540
but and separate origins yeah I mean
0:22:03.010,0:22:06.430
it’s it’s there’s there’s a lot of ways
0:22:04.540,0:22:08.590
you could describe the you know the
0:22:06.430,0:22:10.900
pointy end of the spear or the where the
0:22:08.590,0:22:12.220
where the frontline battles take place
0:22:10.900,0:22:13.540
if you will there’s there’s different
0:22:12.220,0:22:15.460
circumstances where it would be
0:22:13.540,0:22:18.010
different people and you know certainly
0:22:15.460,0:22:19.750
the Marine Corps as a famous is famously
0:22:18.010,0:22:21.400
staying you know first to fight so on so
0:22:19.750,0:22:23.050
I mean you can certainly describe them
0:22:21.400,0:22:25.270
as a frontline of Defense and having our
0:22:23.050,0:22:27.130
bases and people posted overseas again
0:22:25.270,0:22:30.550
that’s all part of the front line of
0:22:27.130,0:22:32.910
defense but anyone who I think consider
0:22:30.550,0:22:35.020
for a moment that human intelligence the
0:22:32.910,0:22:37.000
espionage collection of information
0:22:35.020,0:22:39.400
through issue espionage mainly led by
0:22:37.000,0:22:41.980
the CIA but others as well get involved
0:22:39.400,0:22:43.330
to one degree or another you know anyone
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who would discount that as part of the
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front line of Defense’s just doesn’t
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know enough about it to judge it’s
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clearly an important factor of it and
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you can go back and find references in
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the Bible you know from thousands of
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years ago of how intelligence played a
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key role in the outcome of events that
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were very important and it’s just one of
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those things that’s that’s always been
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here and it’s always going to be here
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and so we in the United States as far as
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I know we’re the only country in the
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world that really doesn’t aggressively
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get out and play in the field of
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espionage anymore well probably most of
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our good friends with intelligence are
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operating against us and every single
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one of our enemies is operating against
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their you know we’re the ones that kind
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of sit back go you know we work through
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transparency transparency and our
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partnerships so now there’s some claims
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in the background that it’s going on I
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mean I would love to sit down with the
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Senate Oversight Committee to say okay
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this is what you’re being told here’s
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the truth yet huh and I can go through a
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list of things like that to make image
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not on things appropriate for an open
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venue here but there you know these guys
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are just being lied to up the line and
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they don’t know any better like I said
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if i sat down with Dan Cox I could sell
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him you know all sorts of stuff that
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weren’t that wasn’t true because how
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would he know
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