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Barry Webb on recent terrorism and Muslim Brotherhood

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Barry Webb it is Tuesday August 6 2009

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teen and here we are doing news Tuesday

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why does tell us what you have this

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first today one of the main things I

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wanted to talk about today was this

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program on allowed to be a TV called Sir

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Malcolm L which means industry and death

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each week they cover issues have to do

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with terrorism and whatnot and this

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particular session focused on the Muslim

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Brotherhood actually the title of the

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show was the Brotherhood’s war in Europe

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and the host of the port went to Belgium

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because Belgium is kind of a heart of

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Europe and he interviewed a couple of

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Muslims that live here one guy was just

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mumbling so softly I couldn’t hear him

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but the other guy was pretty good he was

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a director in a research center there

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Belgium and anyway according and what

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this fellow said is that about one-fifth

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of the population of Brussels is Muslim

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and anymore to explain how the

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all the groups are vying for the

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allegiance of these Muslims if turkey

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EPCOT area Iran you’ve got a kind Isis

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Muslim Brotherhood you’ve all vying for

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the allegiance of these people and of

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course Turkey and Qatar are allied and

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they both support the Muslim Brotherhood

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so the bottom line is that the Muslim

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Brotherhood basically controls all of

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the mosque and Islamic centers in Europe

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not only that he said that even Muslims

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who are not members of the Brotherhood

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and Muslim organizations that are not

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connected directly with the Brotherhood

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actually spread the Brotherhood’s

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ideology on they might have all bought

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into the ideology of the Brotherhood he

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also said that that yes there is a

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moderate strain

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and there are moderate preachers and

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they’re in Europe and moderate talk and

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and of course there are other radicals

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but the moderates are failing for a II

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gave an example of when there was a

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recent conference in Rotterdam where

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they had some meeting moderates come in

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and talk about things like toleration

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and assimilation into Europe and that

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sort of thing in in it drew about 10 or

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15 people but when a Muslim Brotherhood

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big big shot like a receipt I knew she

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was the head of the Muslim the Tunisian

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branch and Muslim Brotherhood when he

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came to speak in in Brussels they had

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thousands he said they came from all

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over Europe from Denmark and Germany but

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not and they you know taxis motels they

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spent gobs and gobs of money and so

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that’s what’s winning in Europe and then

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he kind of hinted that can what’s going

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on Brussels it’s gonna be yes the same

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thing in France and the rest of Europe

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in the news today I don’t know if it’s

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if this is something you’re you’ve

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you’re you’ve seen or you caught up on

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but there was an attack in Egypt an

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exploding vehicle in front of the turned

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out to be in front of a cancer were to

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the hospital though I don’t know if that

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was the intended location since it was a

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three-car collision and one of them was

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a bomb but the thing that was caught my

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attention is that it was according to

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news article I saw it was by some new

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group which cut which was referred to as

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the violent wing of the Muslim

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Brotherhood and that was interesting

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because typically news organizations

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don’t connect terrorism to the

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Brotherhood have you got anything on

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that at all oh yes talk about Oh before

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god I want to mention that most of these

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news casts that we on Tuesday if you

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want will use that we don’t think one or

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two topics but I send Brad’s website

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Brad Johnson’s website Intel reformed

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org your send him a five or six page you

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know summary so it contains many more

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items and the one or two we talked about

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on these

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so people want the full version of these

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things they can go there and read up on

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them now back to the age of thing yeah

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it’s surfer first first started coming

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out Sunday I was watching you know there

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lrb a TV station and you know they were

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first they cover okay there’s a big

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explosion involving vehicles in Cairo

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and they were interviewing eyewitnesses

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and of course they’re read you know

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there of course were coming and kind of

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garbled first it was just one car

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crashing into another then it was one

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car crashing into three and this fellow

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was driving on the wrong side of the

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street at an extremely high rate of

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speed and then he crashed into three

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other vehicles and that led to the

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explosion now they didn’t call it a

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terrorist act at that time I mean the

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news you know people didn’t but the word

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they use may be suspicious because they

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use the word of the jar in Arabic which

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means explosion and I think you know we

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have cars we have people that drive on

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the wrong side of the freeway here in

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the in the states and cars banging into

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each other and it does cause an exposed

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time I think I’ve been to flames but you

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don’t have this big explosion you know

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that destroys other vehicles all the way

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around the buildings close by etc so the

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use of the word into charge said oficial

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maybe suspicious that there’s more to it

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than just you know a cup of cars banging

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out and their gas tanks you know going

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off there’s more to it than that

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and then Monday night I was listening to

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the hai kya story on an end

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NBC Egypt by emirati it’s a talk show

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host he’d spent the whole evening

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talking about this this incident and

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yeah the explosion occurred right near

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the this a cancer hospital episode some

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he showed some

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to the hospital and it was just our

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Britney tamales it’s gonna have to be

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completely rebuilt so you’re talking

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about a big exposing here that not wiped

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out the four cars involved in the

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accident but also several other cars

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nearby went up in flames and then this

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building also went up 20 dead and 16

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injured if I remember correctly yes yes

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and oh yeah they and the Egyptian

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authorities after investigating finally

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admitted that it was a terrorist act and

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that the car that was driving on the

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wrong side of the street I think I’ll

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say oh fuck I got which means they

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booby-trapped car was carrying

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explosives and they said in another

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another count there was loaded with

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explosives so he was aiming to blow

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himself up in his car in front of

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something now you raised a point which I

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also wondered about too was the hospital

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the target on the TV they also said

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there are some tourist hotels in that

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area so he may have been actually aiming

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for one of those but bashing into into

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three other vehicles thump away kind of

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debris events are kind of preempted his

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target perhaps perhaps now as far as the

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group they identified the group also

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like as the group called Qasim and I’ve

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written about this before or in some of

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the reports I’ve sent to Brad’s website

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this is a relatively new option of the

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Muslim Brotherhood and it’s like this

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the violent wing of the Brotherhood all

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right well that’s quite I find that

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quite interesting because I’m I didn’t I

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mean I know that the violent brother

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brother has tons of violent branches

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fallacy the Islamic state al Qaeda Hamas

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arguably Hezbollah so there’s a lot of

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violent branches the Muslim Brotherhood

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it’s just unusual to see anything

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referenced that way in the news so

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anyway now they’ve got a new one and

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it’s attacking cancer words yeah well

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one more point on this because we’ve

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seen vehicles used as weapons you know

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in Europe but if don’t jump the sidewalk

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run over pedestrians for what not but

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this the first time that I’ve seen any

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vehicle use

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weapon by driving on the wrong side of a

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street at high speed so well I guess you

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haven’t been angling for a while but

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yeah they’re all over the place or you

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never know who says everybody should

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keep their eyes open for that I’ve got

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another question I don’t know if whether

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or not you’re you’ve been catching up on

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this or not but I’m finding it

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absolutely fascinating and possibly

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existentially important and that would

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be what’s going on between India

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Pakistan and Kashmir and you know first

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of all there’s been a series of events

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and I think that the news is missing but

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I mean when you read the news they’ve

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been missing the whole thing that’s led

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up to this there was there was a the

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triple to lack or instant Islamic

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divorce was made illegal in India just

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last week so and we know that Modi the

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Indian Prime Minister is has been quite

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good about stopping the Islamic ocation

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process of India it’s been quite good

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about it and and in making triple 2 lakh

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illegal which is a great success for

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women’s rights and also a blow to the

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the Hedra as I understand it or

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escalation of degree of this lamb in an

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area and now we’re seeing India has has

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removed a fairly old document which

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determines the status of the area of

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Kashmir and they haven’t said this in

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the news but he clearly has put it under

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martial law he’s cut off all

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communications and Internet and he’s

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brought in the military to enforce a

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curfew if that’s not martial law that

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someone needs to explain it to me what

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do you think I mean there’s definitely a

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an Islamic versus non Islamic component

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to this I would say oh absolutely and

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now let’s go back to you know back in

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history yeah devil region India Pakistan

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Bangladesh Kashmir was all part of India

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and there were all Hindus and Buddhists

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living side-by-side in peace until Islam

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came and then in 1947 when the Brits

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pulled out they gave India’s

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independence but then he had this big

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war and and the Muslim Porsche

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broke off now Kashmir remained a part of

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India and however there are were a lot

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of Muslims also that we’re living there

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however at the time of the break though

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there were more Hindus and then Muslims

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and here’s another interesting point is

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that I heard on the TV that Muslims were

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going I mean now Hindus from India

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proper we’re going into Kashmir to

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perform pilgrimage and so there’s

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something sacred about Kashmir there’s a

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sacred site or something that’s incurred

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to the Hindus there so that’s why it’s

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important for them addition to the

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historical connection but the Pakistanis

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wanna because now the Muslims there are

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the majority population they always have

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read you know there’s their host star

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population so you have that going on so

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yeah it’s an indie alexia stuffing down

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on it and they have really defied that’s

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according to the original treaty Kashmir

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is Indian belongs to India and Pakistan

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really has no right there so there’s so

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they’re trying to enforce that and

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Pakistan has their there they’re not

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getting up in arms over that so you got

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two nuclear powers with you know

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hundreds of millions of people on the

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verge of war interesting yeah it’s

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interesting and I think it’s worth

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watching especially because China is

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engaging India on an MLA and border and

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they’re also siding with Pakistan so

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there’s there may be a geopolitical

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components of this as well like

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definitely things are lining up in a

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dangerous way all over

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Barry web thank you very much for this

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update I think it’s very important that

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we do this it’s important that people

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follow it because there has been a

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progression to global events over the

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last few years and if there’s clearly

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some kind of crescendo forming now and

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predicting the future nature of that

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crescendo is important to all of us I

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think

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