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Barry Webb former a retired NSA Arabist
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and translator it’s a great opportunity
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I think for all of us to get a chance to
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hear directly what about some of these
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important geopolitical things not to
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mention the the encroachment of Islam on
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Western civilization from somebody with
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experience like yours and you were going
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to talk about turkeys push for offshore
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oil which sounds like quite a threat to
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the people who probably actually
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technically own those waters would that
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be right
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yeah that is correct before I get into
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that I want to go back a little bit to
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North Africa and a sense the whole
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Islamic world has though Spain admit
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turkey their urban lands ambition to
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reestablish this you know the Ottoman
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Empire in the Caliphate is actions in
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that direction are not limited to
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supporting Isis and other terrorist
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movements or at the Siraj government in
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Libya and overt military actions and
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support and whatnot he’s using soap
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operas as a very subtle technique for
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seducing the populations of the Islamic
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world he has for example he is but
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Turkish companies have hired Arabic
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speaking actors and actresses to act out
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stories you know soap operas based on
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the glory days of the Ottoman Empire and
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then they beam these into the Arabic
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speaking countries
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and I I bred an Egyptian editorial
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several months ago about that were they
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pointed that out as one of her big lands
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very subtle techniques for seducing you
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know the Islamic populations into
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glorifying this mythological past of the
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Ottoman Empire and longing for it they
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identify with these see all the
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characters in the soap operas are taken
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from you
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Ottoman history and so the idea is to
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get Islamic people to identify with all
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these various characters you know like
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like Americans did with Dallas on a
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previous decade now here’s a funny thing
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I was watching this TV show that comes
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on a Friday night called Kalia Alayna
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which means leave it to us it’s on
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station that’s caters to Egyptians and
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it’s kind of a variety show and the host
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would bring out either singers or actors
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actresses whatnot and Bishop Schatz may
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miss the music you know stuff like that
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and this one night they had she had on
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the host had this actress from Tunisia
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on and she write all right I came out
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right out and said that she had been
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acting in one of these Turkish you know
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Ottoman Empire soap operas that was her
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gig and she didn’t think anything of it
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you know told me the oblivious about the
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overall political implication to us it
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was a just a game for her so but and
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they’re doing this not the turks are
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doing this not only to the arab arab
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speaking populations but they have
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similar around a broadcast similar raw
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soap operas where they hire art of
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speaking actors actresses or pass
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through speaking actress actresses and
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maybe do the whole skit and then
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broadcast that into afghanistan pakistan
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etc they do this throughout the entire
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Islamic world you seen actors and
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actresses that speak the language of
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that area and the whole idea like I said
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is to seduce these populations into
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idolizing this mythological past so what
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they’ll be more welcome to the idea of
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bringing the Ottoman Empire back oh wow
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so if I I mean I’m actually kind of
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gobsmacked here what you’re saying is
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that air diwan’s
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Turkey has made a series of propaganda
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TV shows formatted like a soap opera
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intended to romanticize
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the era of the Ottoman Empire
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in order to get people to be receptive
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to it when obviously everyone plans to
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try to bring it back yeah exactly I wish
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I wonder if Vlad Tepes has a role there
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because you know maybe they need a
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reminder impaling a few Ottomans there
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they’re always work it wasn’t always fun
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and games for those guys when they were
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invading without robbing and pillaging
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other countries and taking their
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children as Janissaries interesting
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divya have you had a chance to see any
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of these no I haven’t no I’ve just read
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about them and then heard this one
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actress talking about it you know said
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you know she thought nothing of it it’s
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just a gig for include stuff about the
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Janissaries in that oh well if they did
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they would do it in a very positive way
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I mean this is you know the apologist
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answer to that is that these Christian
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families willingly gave up their their
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sons because they knew that they would
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have such a fantastic life you know and
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prestige not working for the Empire and
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actually this is this is taught in
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university Middle Eastern Studies
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classes that way I’m surprised CC allows
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this to be broadcast to Egypt or does he
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well he’s you know what was that again I
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miss producer say I’m kind of surprised
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at LCCC would allow these things to be
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broadcast in Egypt or does he well he
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everything editorials are constantly
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complaining about Egyptian brought I
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mean Turkish broadcast being bayman it
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beamed into Egypt I think I mentioned in
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a previous interview that there’s some
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something like 2,000 Muslim Brotherhood
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media personnel that reside in Turkey
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you know and they’re making up all kinds
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of propaganda stuff not on these soap
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operas but also news reports and stuff
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like that they beam into Egypt over the
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internet you know radio satellite TV etc
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so you know obviously I mean that’s
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we’re not getting this information but
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obviously Turkey is preparing for
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another Ottoman phase and that you know
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here Dhawan is what his worst critic
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States a Diaz yeah hey what what I’m
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trying to get at I guess the point I’m
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trying to make is that he’s working on
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several different levels you know it’s
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not just the the military level like
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he’s doing in North Syria and northern
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Iraq or the sporty of terrorism level
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like he’s doing in Libya it’s you know
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psychological it’s communications the
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media and even soap operas just every
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level that he can think of to try to
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resurrect this thing which brings us to
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the drilling of the oil off the coast of
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Cypress Sierra when thinks his basic you
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know a belief is that every square inch
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of territory that the Ottoman Empire
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once ruled is by rights his well now
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correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t that
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an inherently Islamic idea that any
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territory that’s been Islamic at some
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point is a perpetuity yes legally
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Islamic yes
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yeah and that’s if so Turkey carries had
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over but they’ve also added a
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nationalistic element to it if you need
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to go back to 1974 long before her dough
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and you know when Turkey was a loyal
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NATO ally in 1974 we had another
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president that was involved in
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investigations and a Beechmont talk so
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what a turkey to Cyprus at that time is
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all Greek with a minority of Turks
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scattered hair there the Turks invaded
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Cyprus tried to take whole thing over
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and they ended up showing off the
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northern one-fourth of the country
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exterminating and raping Christians near
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right and left in the process and there
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are local are loyal NATO ally so anyway
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they consider almost I percent away
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reading to be rightfully Ottoman Empire
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territory so we have a right to drill
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full of oil anywhere we want to in that
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sphere of interest but the Greek Cypriot
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government says oh no that’s our intern
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ask
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recognize territorial waters now this
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conflict which has actually been going
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on for a couple of years has led to a
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quasi alliance between Egypt Israel
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Greece and Cyprus oh now I know that is
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real a number of years ago now so quite
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a few years ago but I really was doing
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exercises where there Air Force was
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flying in notice Greek and Cypriot
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airspace I mean what was speculated to
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be rehearsals for a potential attack on
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Iran since the distance of these
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exercises were precisely Israel to Iran
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using using Creek airspace so that’s
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interesting that and it’s a very it
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would be very natural alliance wouldn’t
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it yes yes even though Egypt like each
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of them is what used to be enemies but
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you know when you when you have a common
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enemy Indian you know the enemy of my
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enemy because my friend
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and there are at least less problematic
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than our joint enemy yeah and addition
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to those four countries a number of
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Balkan countries of Eastern Orthodox
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beings are interested in joining that
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alliance to like Romania and Serbia
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interesting so and what is just drilling
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already taking place is there anything
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in the in the world court about it is
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there like on the TV I’ve seen a picture
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of an oil oil rig out there no I’m not
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sure how far along this project is go on
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but I know that you Egypt in israel and
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greece cyprus are you know complaining
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up the kazoo but it might take more than
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a book and then complaints so that’s
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gonna be no they’re interesting dispute
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to watch well indeed thank you very much
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for that update you know what that was
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very informative thank you very much
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