Americans for Intelligence Reform

Brad Johnson, President, and retired CIA Senior Officer and Chief of Staff. Insight into current events from an intelligence angle.

Brad Johnson interview with Barry Webb on Iraq from the Arab perspective.

https://youtu.be/JDRxaQ8wZhQ

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brad johnson here for americans for

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intelligence reform you can follow us at

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youtube under brad johnson or at intel

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reformed org here with Barry web senior

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fellow at Americans for intelligence

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form author and also NSA Arabist and

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what we were going to do is follow up on

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some things we’ve been discussing before

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specifically the reporting that has

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taken place the Arabic language

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reporting that’s taken place on what

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this tit-for-tat that’s going on between

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the United States and Iran so Barry if

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you could just give up you know to

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second kind of overview and then that

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what the latest reporting has been okay

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yeah to bring everyone up to speed after

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we took out cinnamon apply some of suni

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Manny the Iranians fired over a dozen

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missiles into Iraq I understand about

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ten of them hit but base called alassad

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which is in the end bar province that’s

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important remember that and several

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others fell on on a base up in Erbil

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okay remember that one because that’s

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going to come into play a night or two

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and bunch of others course missed their

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targets and so at that point everybody

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was talking about why was this World War

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three you know what’s going to happen

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next

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I know Sarah was interviewing a bunch of

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people you know it’s all this is going

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on and they had a guy based in Tehran

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Iran he was built as an experts on Arab

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Iranian affairs and just for perfect

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Arabic so I don’t know if he was a young

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Arab that was placed there as a reporter

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or whether he was a local Iranian but

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anyway he said that the IRGC had was

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saying that their attacks were extremely

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successful and that they had killed

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several Americans but then as

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intelligence began to come out that

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there’s no Americans or Iraqis

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were hurt in the attack only some you

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know damaged them a few buildings I

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guess Iran began to change his tune

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saying well we missed on purpose we just

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wanted to send a message but without

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hurting anybody and so both sides kind

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of used that as an excuse to back down

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and we did not respond to their response

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so ever that made everybody happy the

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stock market went up and all that so

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that’s kind of where it stood well yeah

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I would characterize it it looks like

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the Iranians basically got caught making

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all sorts of wild claims I mean there

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were 30 to 80 dead Americans and a lot

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of different wild things that were being

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reported they got caught lying and were

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sort of humiliated although obviously

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they controlled reporting to their own

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countrymen so they’ve got their domestic

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reporting sewn up and here on this side

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the President Trump came out and made a

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very strong statement said we’re ramping

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up new sanctions against Iran and you

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know if any American has ever killed

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word you’re gonna pay a terrible price

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so the the American president Trump came

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out looking awfully strong got the

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things settled where everyone was

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arguing you know this is this is going

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to spin out of control in fact it’s kind

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of a clear win for the president a clear

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loss for Iran although of course they

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obviously don’t play it domestically

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that way how about the the Arabic

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reporting from all of the Arabic

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speaking countries you know specifically

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Egypt and anything that you might hear

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out of the different countries that are

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relevant to this that are the larger

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players what’s your feel for what you’re

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seeing there

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well when the course when we killed

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Saudi man II they were dancing in the

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streets pretty much every Arabic country

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particularly in Iraq itself and you’ll

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never heard this and our beauty here but

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also in Iran and I just heard something

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last night when somebody on LRO BO TV

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was interviewing an Iranian who lives in

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America and she was speaking English but

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they had Arabic subtitles she said that

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you know like you know the Middle East

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where people were happy they baked

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cookies to bake cakes so an hour

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ran what’s happening now is everybody’s

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baking cakes baking cookies and passing

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this stuff out openly on the streets so

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they’re extremely happy silly Manny had

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been taken out and but did you know the

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media showed when they brought the sooty

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Manny’s body back into Iran they showed

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pictures of all oh it’s millions of

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mourners pouring out to show their you

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know their respect for Sunni man you

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know stuff yeah that’s all phony yeah

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there are some mourners you know the

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IRGC and people like that all the rest

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of that crowd was there buddy they were

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forced and the Iranian authorities yet

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argc use live rounds fire people if they

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refused to go out and show at least

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symbolic morning and they did the same

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thing as some of the Iraqi cities who

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have reports that of some of the cities

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than ever in our southern Iraq that for

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example in a nicer area there were a

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bunch of Iraqi Shia who were reporting

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us who’s me protesting against Iran and

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the the popular militia groups came out

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and used again life live rounds against

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the protesters for because they refused

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to show symbolic mourning for silly man

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so that gives you an idea of what the

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what the tone is on the Arab Street

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coming out of Egypt also and a report I

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sent to you of which I believe is on our

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website now a lot of sarcasm regarding

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the Iranian response and respect word

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from congratulating America for having

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made down in the strong move that

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America is now acting instead of just

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reacting I would enough echo that in

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Eastern Europe and a lot of the you know

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non-english language reporting that’s

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going on in the world that has that has

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been picked up and carried over I would

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I have seen similar things

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all just all over the world that

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normally doesn’t get picked up and used

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here in the United States that that

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United States has been shown to be

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strong and Iran has been shown to be

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weak and that and not for the first time

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that this is something that now is a

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pattern that’s in people’s mind and I my

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guess is that’s certainly one of the

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reasons why air gran was firing rockets

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into the desert hoping to kind of get

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out of all of the this is save face to

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some degree for their domestic you know

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consumers one final thing on this there

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is kind of another aspect to this that’s

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popped up and that’s the shooting down

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of this Ukrainian aircraft now this is

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something that you had noted previously

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in discussion it was a 2016 built

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aircraft so a fairly new aircraft not

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something that’s worn out and old like

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sometimes you see fall out of the skies

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in the rest of the world and it’s

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apparently now been said to have been

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shot down by a missile and what everyone

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is claiming is you know oops it was an

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accident the rocket was fired out of

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Iran Russian equipment we don’t know if

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Russia’s were on hand as any part of the

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technical support for the for these

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missile platforms but it was filled with

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Iranians headed to Ukraine which I find

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the whole scenario kind of interesting

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you know and I personally questioned you

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know an accident being the cause of this

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I know the program to fire off missiles

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isn’t where you know you you spill your

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coffee and are wiping the the you know

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the control board and a missile goes off

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you know or you lean over and touch your

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elbow to it the missile goes off it’s

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far more complicated than that and

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requires you know more involvement of

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humans to get this to take place so I I

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just find that a little far-fetched that

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it was an accident and I would suggest

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maybe somebody who’s on the aircraft

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somebody wanted dead conceivably the

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Russians or the Iranians had some sort

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of political enemy on they’re certainly

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going to Ukraine what support was there

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going on for the country of Ukraine

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which as we know Russia has a kind of

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ongoing conflict when they annexed the

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Crimea a part of Ukraine so there there

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is conflict in Ukraine and port Ukraine

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it seems every time we turn around

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they’re getting

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they’re getting kind of kicked in the

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teeth and are in the in the crosshairs

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for some sort of problems so just

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curiosity what do you see reporting

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taking place that just touches on this

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whole Ukrainian aircraft one thing right

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after the the plane was shot down the

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Twitter accounts in Arabic went went

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wild and mostly sarcastic regarding Iran

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saying such things as you can’t you

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can’t even kill one American but you

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shoot a civilian airliner with these and

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on and on that kind of stuff now what

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the official news on lrb OTV said and

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they quoted they were quoting american

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intelligence that based on satellite

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photos and went out that – not one but

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two missiles hit the aircraft the theory

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that has been cornered going around is

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that if you look at the timing this came

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right after they had fired the missiles

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at the US bases in Iraq and so the

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Iranian air defense units were on ultra

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high alert and they for some reason

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mistook this aircraft as a possible

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American you know air attacks or

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something and so some you know some

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idiot just panicked and hit the hit the

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send button there boom you know yeah

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actually you go back in time we did the

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same thing way back wow I was a decade

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or two decades ago when we shut down an

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Iranian airliner if you remember that I

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do yes and that was you know it was an

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accident so those things happen you know

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you can sometimes people mistake a

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civilian airliner for a military

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aircraft so but it does appear that an

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explosion of some kind constant whether

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it was a missile hitting the plane or

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two missiles or a bomb from inside but

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if you look at the debris on the ground

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when the after the plane came down is

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spread out way too wide for it to be

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plain

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magma mechanical failure for the plane

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to just fall if played from a mechanical

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failure the debris would be more

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concentrated one area but this was just

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spread out all over so in other words it

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just shows that I have exploded in the

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air and then all the debris came down

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over a wide area yeah agreed that that

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was something that’s been now reported

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yesterday final thoughts and also

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something that we had touched on earlier

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sulemani was taken out by a drone strike

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by by President Trump and he’s been

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widely criticized as you know murdering

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some poor innocent guy who is just a

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diplomat which of course now no need to

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go into that in detail but we all know

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that’s completely false a completely

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false narrative but under the previous

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administration under Obama this was done

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a number of times including Libya so any

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comments on that and final thoughts yeah

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you know took out bin Laden he was in

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here we took out a Loki and the Yemen

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and he was here and took out or helped

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take out Qaddafi in Libya it created a

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mess but of course he’s a hero

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yeah it just illustrates the double

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standard that the Democrats have but to

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add to make things worse oh I want to

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back up a little bit go back to Iran

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because Iran you know even now even

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though they back down a little bit and

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it kind of gave everybody a face-saving

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way to get out of this they’ve also have

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stress that they’re continuing to

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continue their you know their plans

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their project to get all American forces

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out of the Middle East and they’re going

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to do this by not killing Americans but

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by attacking countries that have

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American bases in them yes yeah we’re

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going to see more and more of that in

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other words they’re going to continue to

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poke the bear but never go so far as to

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bring about a direct response however

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they they they might up the

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again because of what Congress just did

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they they passed a bill supposedly to

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restrict Trump’s ability to respond to

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Iranian provocation to do and you know

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do things like like we did last week

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when we took out soda man so this will

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tie the president’s hands he cannot act

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as commander chief he cannot he cannot

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respond to immediate threats let’s go to

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Congress each time and of course you

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know what they’re gonna do they’re gonna

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leak it to the media so the enemy will

0:13:53.680,0:13:59.110
know yeah now however that that

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congressional bill that was a thing that

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was passed is a non-binding bill so it’s

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it’s a political statement versus an

0:14:03.790,0:14:09.820
actual you know legal restriction on the

0:14:07.600,0:14:12.160
president so all right Barry Webb thank

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you very much one more things to go but

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the problem is the Iranians and the

0:14:15.100,0:14:20.530
other nut cases in the Middle East see

0:14:17.920,0:14:22.360
that as weakness and they see that they

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have allies in America

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and that the president’s hands are tied

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that’s the way they’re going to

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interpret that and they’re going to act

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accordingly

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you

 
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