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Brad Johnson: New analysis of Nashville Bombing

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brad johnson it is december the 28th of
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2020
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um this year is winding down really
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quickly and
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of course there was a massive explosion
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based on pretty good evidence damaged
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large number of buildings and some
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buildings the att building was
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profoundly damaged
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there is a lot of fake footage
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circulating around the internet already
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showing alternative hypotheses about the
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nature of this explosion
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one showing a missile landing and it’s
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just a lot of crazy stuff
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uh should be pointed out as a guy who
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does a lot of video work
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that the videos they showed were
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suspiciously
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appeared to have been done with infrared
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cameras why the hell would an infrared
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camera have been pointed at that spot at
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that time
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it looks like a lot of malarkey is there
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any update i mean
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the guy bought some girl a house i don’t
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know can you update us on what’s going
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on with this please
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yeah there’s some very interesting
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aspects of this starting to bug me as as
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we’ll go forward so this is kind of an
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update
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as you say there’s a lot of i i’ll
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just determine bogus information there’s
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a lot of bogus information out there
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where they’re coming up with a lot of
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kind of
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conspiracy theories about missiles and
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all that there’s just there’s really no
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serious evidence
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to support that and i’ve had comments on
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the previous interview we did on youtube
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for that sort of thing as well
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uh there are
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stuff that’s just basically unassailable
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evidence that it
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just is what we’ve been told that this
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rv drove up
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sat there and then you know it made its
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announcements and time went by
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and then it blew up now there’s just uh
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released this morning was
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um uh security video uh footage that was
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just of a store that happened to be
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facing down the front of the
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from the front of the store and it had
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where this rv exploded in the background
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and i mean you
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you see you know boom where it it
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exploded
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just the rv so i like i said i think
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that that’s pretty unassailable there’s
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just
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very conclusive proof that this thing
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blew up there and that’s
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not the type of thing that would fool uh
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atf and you know the these explosive
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people from the police force that are
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there looking at it i mean
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they can tell by the evidence there what
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type of explosive was used and
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there would be pieces of rocket laying
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around if a rocket was there which none
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of that has has appeared
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so uh i would just say that those are
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all kind of get into the conspiracy
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theory things don’t want to spa
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spend any more time on that now uh
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what’s what’s
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new out of all of this that’s happened
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since we did our little previous
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interview on this
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is they’ve identified the bomber so it’s
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a guy named anthony quinn warner
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uh self-employed guy you know kind of
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the
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a little bit of the loner gave stuff
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away before he was you know
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this property that he owned to somebody
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before he
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uh went to do this suicide bombing that
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he did
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and uh it’s it’s already being called
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a lone wolf and that’s the term that’s
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starting to be kicked around now that
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immediately just pisses me off and
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worries me as to what’s going on
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and i want to point out some stuff to
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people that that just
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you know you start looking at this
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anyone if you if you want to look at the
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facts of these sorts of things you’ve
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got to start to be suspicious now
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i’m going to hearken back to june 2017
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and there was a a a guy named uh
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what was his name um i mean i’ve got
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written down here someplace anyway
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this was the guy whose name i can’t
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remember off the top of my head
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who uh went to the uh congressional
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practice for baseball game
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and uh he
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was made confirmed that it was uh the
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republicans out practicing and he ended
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up shooting six people and two of them
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were
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including the steve scalise the whip
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uh was seriously wounded and one other
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seriously wounded so
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he ended up getting killed in this
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shooting
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and so uh the investigation ended
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because the perpetrator
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was was killed and
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this guy who was he so he’s this like
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60ish
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year old guy white guy leftist
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uh you know charlotte leaning that
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direction
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and but when he was killed they
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basically said okay investigation over
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that’s it they’ll go a few months later
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and also in 2017
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and you have the stephen paddock
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shooting in las vegas
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and who was it again it was a
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60-something
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year old white guy leftist all of these
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same similarities between these two
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and he’s found dead investigation ends
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and in both of these cases there’s a
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there are a lot of indicators that this
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could have been part of a larger
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operation targeting you know
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trump supporters at a concert that was a
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country western concert that
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whether true or not was commonly
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believed and it was on the internet
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everywhere that this was a
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a trump supporter concert this and of
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course in the congressional baseball
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shooting that was a case of where the uh
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uh the guy specifically said you know he
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was targeting republicans
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and shot republicans because he asked
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who was there practicing
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now fast forward to here and we’ve got
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again
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this 60-ish white guy
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apparently from what we’re seeing so far
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leftist kind of these guys are all three
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kind of oddball
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alone sort of people my point out of his
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of this is i think they’re susceptible
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to this sort of thing
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and i hearken back to the program we’ve
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talked about many many many times
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for years and that is the recruitment
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program
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that both isis and al qaeda have done
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so very successfully and this has been
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proven even in the public arena
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this has been proven over and over and
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over to be part of a
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very specific very well
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produced program using the internet
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social media to target individuals who
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are susceptible to become suicide
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bombers
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and this has been done over and over all
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over the world
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in europe in the united states where
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these people are spotted
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and assessed and recruited online
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to then go conduct some sort of attack
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and they’ll
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they’re very open as to what can be done
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and i i i look at this and i and you
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you have to you just look at these three
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cases i’ve laid out there are more that
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i think you could make arguments that
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are similar
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but these 60 something like this
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i can’t help but interrupt here another
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example of this and we’ve done
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interviews on this guy was one
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one a fellow in toronto who the press
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called an in-cell
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and he wrote his wrote his van up on the
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sidewalk and ran over a bunch of people
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and then attempted to commit suicide by
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cop by claiming his cell phone was a gun
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and he was a great example of exactly
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what you’re talking about if i recall
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correctly exactly right and i think
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there are others as well
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and and certainly the one in toronto i
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think there’s others in europe
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perhaps more concentrated here in this
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area in north america
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but nevertheless this is what’s going on
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now you cannot look at these parallels
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all these 60 something white guy
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loner left us and look at this and go oh
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pure coincidence you know that’s not how
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this stuff
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works there’s somebody out there
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spotting assessing and recruiting these
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guys
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to go do this stuff there’s just too
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many coins
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coincidences and too many cases of it
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now as i said
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there’s a well organized program that’s
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been run for years and years and years
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extraordinarily successful by al-qaeda
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and
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isis to go recruit people to go do these
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so-called lone wolf
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all [ __ ] one of the problems we have
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with our system here in the united
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states
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and this is not a criticism of either
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intelligence
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or law enforcement i’m pointing out a
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weakness in the system the way it’s
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organized
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the police in all three of these cases
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and that i’ve just lined out
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all operate a certain way law
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enforcement operates certain ways and
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one of those things is
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if the perpetrator is dead the
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investigation ends
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even though in all of these cases you
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know there’s there’s really good reason
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to believe that
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more was going on with more people
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involved behind the scenes i mean some
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basic stuff
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i back to las vegas shooting something i
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talked about a great deal
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was in that second hotel room that
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paddock used
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or was supposed to have used the the
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second room was locked off to paddock he
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had
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no access to it in that second room
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there were more weapons weapons had been
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fired
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and there was a second pair of gloves
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that had been used on the bed
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you can see that photograph in the
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preliminary police report
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photographs of of that second room now
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i would like to have those tested for
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dna and see if somebody else had been
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wearing those but those sorts of things
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were never done
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why because paddock was dead so the
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investigation
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ended so there was no onward
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investigation and that is the same in
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all three of these cases this guy
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anthony quinn warner committed suicide
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by blowing this up
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apparent suicide by blowing blowing this
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rv up with him in it
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and there’s nothing left but little
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pieces and so
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these things all carry this thing in
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common you cannot look at these things
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and say oh that’s
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just coincidence this is part of
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somebody’s organized effort now
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i’ve argued that the the problem the
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most
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probable group who’s doing this
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is antifa they have a large worldwide
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well-funded well-trained organization
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we’ve seen them do
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similar things for example the
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assassination
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squad that murdered the guy with the red
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hat the maga hat out in portland oregon
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where they where he took two shots to
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the head
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what happened a 60-ish white guy
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who then if you want to call this
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committed suicide
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by police and had got into a shootout
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with the police and was killed
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case ended even though there is
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video of this guy being part of a squad
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of around 25 people
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that conducted that assassination of the
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guy in the red hat
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all of these are the same thing these
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guys were part of antifa which again
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leads me to to connect this to antifa
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i would say we have solid evidence based
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on these things
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that that this is a program emulating
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the program
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by isis and al qaeda
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searching constantly for people that
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they can recruit
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to go out and do some sort of suicide
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attack
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or in all of these cases now initially
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in the las vegas shooting
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there was an antifa unit that took
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credit for this they they did try to
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backtrack it afterwards saying oh no
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you know that’s not really us sort of
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thing but there was somebody anxious out
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of antifa to get the word out but it was
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that
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it was there up but they have a pattern
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of not uh
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not claiming responsibility for this we
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haven’t seen anybody do it
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and as i was saying the way ours the way
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our system is set up
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this this is both a criminal
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and an intelligence problem but it’s not
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treated like that it’s treated only as
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criminal
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god bless law enforcement i’m on their
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side all the way but it is an inherent
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weakness with the way these cases are
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run in all of the
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five cases we’ve mentioned right here
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that are almost one for one the same
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type of case
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uh once the perpetrator is dead law
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enforcement ends they shut the case on
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it it’s over
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the case is solved everybody goes home
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successful
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even though as i said there’s lots of
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other things that could have been done
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now that’s not a criticism of them it’s
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how this
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the system is built here the
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intelligence issue
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of it because it’s a domestic law
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enforcement thing it’s categorized
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clearly as that
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never clicks into play and so you don’t
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see intelligence now i’ve said in
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previous cases like the las vegas
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shooting
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this is where somebody like the fbi ci
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unit uh division rather would really
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really really really earn their keep
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and that is to jump in behind it fine
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close the case but let them go on and
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call it something else and let them jump
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in with these guys that are used to
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running intelligence
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uh programs and issues and understand
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that stuff
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where law enforcement does not law
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enforcement
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you know the local law enforcement don’t
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have any experience zero experience in
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intelligence issues
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just like the cia the overseas operators
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and guys like
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that used to exist like myself we don’t
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do law enforcement either those are two
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completely separate disciplines
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but in these cases this is switching
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over
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and that switch over needs to be
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emulated by us
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the people that i would tend to do it
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like i said are the ci division out of
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the fbi
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because they’ve got both intelligence
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and law enforcement they’re a hybrid
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they need to click in behind this and
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say fine good
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job uh your local police force nashville
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police you’ve done super no criticism of
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you whatsoever
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we’re now going to take the ball and run
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with it and see if there’s any
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indicators
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that this was part of a larger operation
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that was never done in the congressional
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baseball shooting ever done in las vegas
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never done here it’s not going to be
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done here in nashville
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all those things even though there’s
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evidence that suggests other people are
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involved
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that is a weakness it’s being exploited
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by
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somebody it seems to be fairly clearly
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linked to antifa
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they seem to have really picked up this
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program of recruiting
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weak people who are susceptible to this
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and then they train them and take them
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out and get them to do it in such a way
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that they commit suicide doing it and
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they destroy
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all of the social media links and all
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those sorts of things
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that link them back to antifa so that it
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covers their hand in this
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and let me say that methodology is
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precisely what antifa
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and al qaeda have done with these
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so-called lone wolf people
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so that when these get investigated by
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law enforcement law enforcement what do
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they say
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there’s no evidence they don’t say you
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know it didn’t happen
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they say there’s no evidence they were
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connected to a larger operation
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but we see in these reports that have
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come out publicly
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al-qaeda and isis have trained these
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people
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that just before they run the operation
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where they go out and kill people they
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destroy all of that evidence
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so this just fits a solid pattern that’s
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out there
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and i think there’s more than enough now
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to take a look at this
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and uh i i wish
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somebody in it you know had the
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wherewithal to take a look at this and
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understood intelligence enough to look
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at this
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and say look there’s a clear pattern
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here we need to take a look at this and
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if it turns out to be wrong
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great you know great i have no problem
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with that if these just turn out to be a
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bunch of local
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you know wackos that go out and do this
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sort of stuff then
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better for all of us but if it does turn
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out to be part of a larger program and
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by god they need to go do something
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about it
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and not sit around and pretend it didn’t
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happen and that’s where we sit now and
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as we stand too
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while president trump if this were
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brought to his attention might be
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willing to take a look at doing
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something
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certainly under a biden administration
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with the ties between the democratic
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party and antifa
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nobody’s going to do anything about it
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and i i
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i really question now what has the
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democratic party become
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with ties to antifa when it looks like
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antifa might very well be behind things
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like
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this bombing in nashville and the
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baseball shooting in las vegas and all
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of these things
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there are good reasons to believe that
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that antifa is tied into all of this
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stuff
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it’s been the position of it’s been the
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position of my website for over 10 years
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that looking at terrorist events
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as law and order events and not as
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military or intelligence events is the
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short track to losing this thing and
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it’s abs
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it’s increasingly clear one last
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question for you brad about this
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i saw a rumor on twitter that just
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before the van exploded
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his warning system was playing the song
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downtown by petula clark
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do you know if that’s the case i haven’t
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found the recording i haven’t found the
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recording either i’ve heard that i’ve
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also seen stuff out there that if you
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play it backwards it says
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merry christmas everyone and things like
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that i i guess my take on all of that
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stuff is it
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it it looks too much like kind of weird
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conspiracy theory stuff so i’ve sort of
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ignored that i don’t know if it’s true
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about the patula clark song
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and i i highly doubt that playing it
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backwards says merry christmas and
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like i said i kind of throw it into this
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missile sort of category of where
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there’s just
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you know until somebody proves it where
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they put it out there i just would go
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under the assumption that all that stuff
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is kind of bogus but
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uh and also too i don’t want to subtract
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from the real dangers that
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might be out there and i repeat antifa
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is a real live honest to god
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organization that’s dangerous
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like i said i repeat the assassination
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squad that took place out in
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in portland with the same kind of guy
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the 60ish guy that was the
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older guy that did the shooting who
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committed suicide by
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getting to shoot out with police all of
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these cases plus the toronto one you
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mentioned
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they all fit a similar scenario and if
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if you had
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five or six bodies that were all killed
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the same way
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with a lot of parallels between those
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bodies
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the police would look at this and go
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serial killer but because
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of the nature of the beast here with the
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perpetrator dead it just all ends
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and you make a fabulous point there that
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with what you said on your website’s
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basic policy
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the the dod would also be
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military would be also a a a possibility
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of a solution for this
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they’ve got some uh you know the dia and
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people like that that
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certainly under understand the
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intelligence aspects of it
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uh who would also be a good solution why
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i would probably go
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my first choice would probably be the
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fbici division because they’re
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on the ground have people local uh have
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that law enforcement background as well
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because all those people
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fbi officers our agents go back and
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forth and they’ll have people being
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criminal division and then
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end up taking a tour in ci division and
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things like that
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so they would have a lot of practical
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skills that would directly apply to this
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but it’s never going to be applied and
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that that worries the hell out of me i
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don’t know what we can do to
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to bring pressure to bear but it looks
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like there’s a pattern of this being
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operated
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used against us with with you know
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everybody just closes their eyes to the
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whole thing and
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pretends so you know just it just
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happened i mean las vegas shooting
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uh you know hundreds of people i mean
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seriously wounded and killed and all
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that out there and that’s essentially
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forgotten
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that was that’s only you know three
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years ago
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and the lack of curiosity is to the
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the potential of this being part of a
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larger operation just
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astounds me stuns me and worries me and
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like i said now with the
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the the linkage between the democratic
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party and antifa
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who also antifa has you know trained
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combat troops that spent time fighting
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in syria
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i’ve done a lot of reporting on that
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they have a lot of photographic evidence
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showing
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themselves out there with their antifa
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alongside the syrian militia groups that
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they’ve been fighting with
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uh the leftist extremist syrian groups
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and all of this worries the hell out of
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me and i don’t see anybody
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other than really myself and a few
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others that
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that are looking at this stuff with some
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alarm and
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i i don’t know under the biden
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administration we’re probably faced with
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some time where
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this is absolutely going to go unimpeded
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and we’re going to see it get worse and
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worse
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hopefully better times ahead it worries
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it worries the heck out of me it really
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does
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you
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