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Brad Johnson, President, and retired CIA Senior Officer and Chief of Staff. Insight into current events from an intelligence angle.

Throwback Thursday: Adam Schiff needs a lesson on reality and truth

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Brad Johnson it is February 21st of 2020
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and now the latest bunch of nonsense
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which that what I would say is
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anti-state propaganda like the New York
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Times is putting out apparently is that
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once again if the the Russians which
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somehow have become the bad guy at the
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left our help big president Trump cheat
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his way toward an election victory which
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you know I think on the surfaces it’s
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kind of insane because we’re all pretty
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sure in a fair vote it would be possibly
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a historic we big win but can you detail
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this please yeah this what happened was
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a week or so ago the the DNI Sophos the
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director of national National
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Intelligence the outgoing deputy
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well the the outgoing director is it
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who’s leaving his deputy was the one
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that did this briefing and so the
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essence of the briefing was to the
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President and Adam Schiff was invited to
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be there which is a little unusual so I
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would say it was this was clearly
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something that was done on purpose with
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the same political thing that we see
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going on and on and on which is attacked
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Trump attacked Trump attacked Trump so
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anything they could do so this was a
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setup he was being sandbagged in this
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meeting you know of course he goes
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thinking he’s going to get a briefing
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Adam Schiff shows up these guys have
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invited him and he’s going you know well
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okay let’s hear what the briefing is so
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the briefing is that Vladimir Putin the
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President of Russia is going is helping
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Trump get elected so that’s the essence
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of it now of course the New York Times
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gee what a surprise it’s immediately
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leaked to those guys and they came out
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with report this hit I believe yesterday
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so at the same time the guys was leaving
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the DNI Director of National
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Intelligence is gaining McGuire he’s
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being replaced by Richard Grinnell
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Grinnell is a guy that’s put a long time
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trump supporter vocal guy that’s
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currently been the the ambassador of
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Germany and is now coming back to fill
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the slot now he’s filling it on a
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temporary basis he’s acting DNI not DD
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and I and they’re supposedly going
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the names now to pick out somebody
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permanent so a lot of this was provoked
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by that change because once Grinnell had
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been there and in charge that would have
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not been allowed to take place because
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it’s it’s clearly political let me kind
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of from the you know the intelligence
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perspective kind of talked about this a
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little bit because intelligence
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community is not they cannot read
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Putin’s mind they don’t know things like
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that even if you have guys that are well
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placed within the government of the of
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the Russia reporting back to us which I
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don’t know if there are not but even if
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there are they’re not going to know that
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sort of thing because Putin is a an
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intelligence professional himself he’s
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not going to say oh gee boys and girls
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I’m trying to help Trump get reelected
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you know what he’s going to do is you
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know push him to go do this and this is
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all going to be handled down the line
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and what is it he’s always been after
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now we know what the Soviet Union and
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Russia Scents have been doing for
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decades and what they want to do is they
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want to sow dissent and arguments and
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chaos and all of that that’s what they
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want they don’t have never really been
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all that interested in like picking
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specific people per se to win so it just
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it makes no sense whatsoever in the in
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the decades of experience that we have
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in this sort of thing with defectors and
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all of that that they’re now picking a
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specific guy to back that way Trump
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who’s been hard on Russia so it just
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doesn’t make any sense in any way shape
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or form so it’s clearly politically
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motivated it was clearly done to fit it
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in before the new DNI is in place so
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that they can fit this in have shift be
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there leaked it to the press and come
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out with just another one of the BS
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stories that that you know is used to
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criticize Trump now another aspect of
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this that absolutely nobody’s talking
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about and that is Bernie Sanders Bernie
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Sanders is a socialist very Pro Russia
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pro-soviet you be famously honeymooned
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there he was this you know socialist
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idealist kind of fairy la-la-land sort
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of guy that thought socialism was just
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the greatest thing since sliced bread
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and that’s where he comes from I think
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that he bases all that on how one Moscow
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subway station looked if I
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yeah he talks about stuff like that he
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was very Pro Soviet Union and there was
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a there was a nice station in Moscow
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that’s true it’s kind of famous easy to
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google and find pictures of it I don’t
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know all built by if I understand
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correctly most of that was built by
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World War two German prisoners and that
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was one of the work projects that they
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put him on was building these beautiful
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ornate subway stations but they are
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beautiful regardless of who built them
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whether it was slave labor or not which
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in this case I believe it was so then
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now Bernie Sanders is a very interesting
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character that’s being ignored out of
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all of this Bernie Sanders pro-russian I
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mentioned all that for very specific
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reasons he was traveling to Russia has
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been there and visited was Pro now from
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the then KGB perspective that guy I
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guarantee you they approached him he was
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a political guy was going to hold
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political positions we had already held
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a lower-level office but he was a guy
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that was young and would be moving up
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through the ranks politically here in
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the United States which he has so they
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would have looked at that guy and and
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those are the ones that you know often
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are referred to as kind of a useful
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idiot and that’s how they would have
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unit but he would have been
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philosophically in agreement with them
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and it would been an absolute no-brainer
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I can almost you know I don’t know for
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sure but you I can almost guarantee that
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he would have been a very attempting
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subject for the KGB to interview and
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talk to and try to get to know with the
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idea of recruiting him on the spot or in
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the future or at least making him a
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co-op tea getting him to agree they may
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or may not have done it in such a way
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where it was an open thing where they
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said hi you know I’m Yvonne I’m from the
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KGB and you’re here to make you work for
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me you know it wouldn’t necessarily have
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been something like that that would have
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been the exception not the rule and they
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would have been a soft approach but to
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suggest that with his travel there and
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all of those things that he was not
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approached by the KB KGB and looked at
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as a possible you know we’ve it we would
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use them as an influence a source that
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can do influence operations or reporting
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sore
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he would have been looked at for those
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things so I can guarantee you with his
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travel there he was looked at and
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considered almost certainly and I can
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say very highly likely that he was
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approached by someone to some degree to
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interview him for his attitudes and his
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thoughts and whether he was sort of
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anti-american Pro Soviet Union he would
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have been looked at for that and
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interviewed for that now if it would be
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on that it’s certainly possible that he
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was even pitched who knows I’m not
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suggesting he accepted in this inactive
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Russian agent but certainly that’s
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theoretically possible but that initial
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stage would have taken place so from
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Russia’s perspective they would have
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some file on this guy from 30 or 40
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years ago and he would be a known
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quantity for them that they would have
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probably taken some sort of look at who
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knows how serious or how shallow of a
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look that would have been but it would
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exist and just because of his travel
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there everybody could travel there got
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looked at those were all run through the
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databases of the KGB and they looked at
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all those guys so that did happen how
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far it went or didn’t go you know that’s
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there’s just it’s it’s a you know
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guessing on my part as to that but for
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sure it would have gotten to that where
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he was looked at very likely to the
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point where he would have been
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interviewed by somebody who may or may
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not have been openly KGB and they would
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have had a file on it so who would Putin
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want in charge of the United States of
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America as president this Pro God that
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has a long-term positive relationship
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with Russia maybe was a co-op T to some
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degree or another who knows if it was
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more or less than that but somebody who
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has this very positive pro-russia stance
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and background in 40 or 50 years of that
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outlook and cooperation to one degree or
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another at least politically who’s he
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gonna pick to be his his horse in the
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race back here in the United States
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Trump who gives him a hard time or
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Bernie Sanders who’s you know
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essentially his boy and you know this is
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just absolutely ridiculous on the face
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of it ridiculous in every every way
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shape or form clearly this was the
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president being sandbagged by the
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outgoing DNI and this
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is a perfect example of the problems
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that President Trump has had while so
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far in office he has not up until now
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recognized that these guys are all there
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doing everything they can do to
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undermine him and stab him in the back
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and the DNI that office is being run
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along with all of these other guys we’ve
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been talking about formerly the DOJ the
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FBI the CIA all of these guys sandbagged
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him at every opportunity they get and
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this is just one more and this they knew
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their opportunity was going away because
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of the new DNI coming in and so it was
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their opportunity to slip one more knife
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in the back of Donald Trump before
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before the opportunity went away so
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that’s all this is it’s nothing more
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it’s the same ol same ol it’s just a new
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page out of that old book of tactics and
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it’s one more way to do to try and take
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a hit at Trump nothing more so it’s it’s
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it would it would obviously be naive to
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think that that the the anti state that
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the corrupt left in the United States
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would would stop attacking Trump when
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the impeachment failed because everybody
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knew the impeachment would fail from the
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beginning they must practice writing new
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plans even while it was taking place
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they’re safe so what do we do next I’m
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sure that’s true
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but what was Putin’s role with the KGB
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before during the Soviet Union didn’t it
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wasn’t he a fairly ranking guy in the
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KGB when it was still the Soviet Union
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yes you’re not at the most senior levels
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necessarily but yeah he was in I believe
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it was st. Petersburg he was out of that
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area and worked for his KGB career and
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in that area and what he had done was he
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was the KGB was was a different set of
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things that they did from what we do in
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the United States and you can look at
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them as sort of the FBI and the CIA
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combined into one so they sort of had
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the domestic KGB and the foreign issues
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KGB he came out of the best domestic KGB
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in st. Petersburg that’s where he grew
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and from there he grew to very senior
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position and I think headed that that
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office for the KGB in st. Petersburg now
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I’m not sure if he went beyond that or
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not I don’t recall anymore but just sort
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of for everyone to understand what
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those guys do now FBI in the United
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States implies something different now
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it’s political but traditionally what
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they do is they go after criminals
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they’re after those sorts of things now
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they also have their intelligence
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functions and so on which the KGB did
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those combination of things domestically
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but their primary goal was to control
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the population so they’d be looking for
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people that were you know seditious
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within the Soviet Union population and
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they would go get those people so what
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you know they were they were thugs and
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they killed people so if you or someone
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who was politically against the system
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that was used to the Soviet Union and
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we’re trying to you know to fight back
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politically in some way those are the
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guys were they would come banging on the
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door at the middle of the night with you
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know black hoods on it all that scooped
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you out and you’d never be seen again
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and famously a lot of these cities
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there’s been graveyards found where a
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lot of the KGB KGB victims of the day
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where those bodies were found where
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they’ve disappeared and that SOB would
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be released they’d been beat up and
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tortured or whatever to get whatever
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information they thought was there and
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someone would survive and some did not
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now lots of documentation and all this
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stuff that’s the domestic side of the
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KGB and what they did so that was where
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Putin came from and that’s why you see
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Putin so easily able to to be in this
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groove if I can say that of tracking
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down his political enemies and kill him
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because that was how he was raised and
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what in London he’s killed like 27
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people alone there that were Russians
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that had escaped the Soviet or Russia
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today and we’re living overseas and
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we’re political opposition and guys like
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lemon general Levitt that was in Siberia
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was had plans to run for president of
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Russia and he was an enemy power from
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Putin’s perspective and he you know died
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in a helicopter crash a lot of guys if
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Putin doesn’t like dying helicopter an
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airplane crashes it’s a very common
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thing which yeah okay you know as you
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start to stack up those different
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incidents thinking that their accident
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starts to be a little bit you know hard
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to believe but that’s how Putin was
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raised professionally if you will and
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that’s why you see those
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does the social assassinations take
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place because that’s just you know
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that’s bread and butter to him I feel
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that way about seth rich and i think it
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was a Supreme Court justice that was in
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some ranch in Texas if I remember that
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story correctly maybe he wasn’t Supreme
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Court but there was a mysterious death
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pillow related oh no ya know that there
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were some photographs in the police
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reports out of that one of the guys made
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a comment that he was found dead on his
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bed with the pillow above his head right
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now people interpreted that to mean like
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over his face but it was not the pillow
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was above him on the bed so I was
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overtaken that sense but no I I don’t
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think that’s good that’s good yeah and I
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don’t I don’t believe there’s anything
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suspicious about that I think he just
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died well track that back to South
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Richland Bradshaw yeah thank you very
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much for that that was very very good
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really enjoyed that thank you

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