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Brad Johnson, President, and retired CIA Senior Officer and Chief of Staff. Insight into current events from an intelligence angle.

Brad Johnson on AG Barr and Trump

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Brenda Johnson it is February the 20th
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of 2020 I’ve been waiting a long time to
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say that and here we are in this very
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odd place where there I mean the first
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casualty of war is truth and it’s
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getting increasingly difficult to tell
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what makes any what’s true even what
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makes any sense in the background noise
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of this increasingly rancorous political
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climate and now what I’m hearing is all
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this stuff about AG bar who we’ve done
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several interviews where you talk about
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him his his profound integrity and his
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effectiveness and it makes sense to me
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that since they couldn’t impeach
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President Trump which I do if they
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expect to do they would then go after AG
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bar it was the next guy in line to take
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down the criminals and the the coup
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plotters and now they’re saying that AG
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bars turned on president I don’t know
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what’s going on can you straighten this
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out for us please yeah sure like first
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things first on that I mean US Attorney
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General bar and this has been talked
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about publicly a great deal but he was
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formerly the US Attorney General so he
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came back in because this is something
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he believes and he saw the system was
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kind of cracked up and is actually
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trying to help get it back online so you
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know he doesn’t have an axe to grind
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isn’t looking for something doesn’t have
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onward ambitions
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I don’t believe to anything so he’s
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doing this for all the right reasons so
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now of course there’s the call I mean
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this is all stuff you and I’ve talked
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about many times we all know what is
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coming everybody knows what’s coming
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there’s indictments on the horizon a lot
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of people are going to be implicated in
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this and it’s going to be
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extraordinarily damaging to a lot of
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people and there’s gonna be people end
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up in jail that’s the way this is gonna
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unfold now as I’ve said many times their
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only way to defend themselves is to try
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and attack president Trump damaged his
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presidency weakened weakened his
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presidency to whatever degree they can
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so they’re desperately doing everything
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they can to do that this is part of that
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same campaign and so now they’re
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attacking Attorney General bar and
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people have called for him to resign and
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so on because that would
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doubt on this this investigation that’s
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being run against all of the fights a
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warrant people the Democrats it’s it’s
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all Democratic apparatchiks party guys
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that are within the federal government
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within the agencies doing the bidding of
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the Democratic Party so this latest
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thing is that on Roger stone and Trump
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came out and said that the sentencing
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was unfair and that it should be looked
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at and in fact that was what happened
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and AG bar the next day came out and and
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and made a comment that you know he’s
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reviewing it in this 9 year 7 to 9 year
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recommended recommended sentencing to
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the judge by the prosecutors was
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unwarranted based on the crimes now one
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of the things for Roger stone to keep in
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mind is he was charged with processed
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crimes so they’re saying okay he lied to
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Congress oh okay but what was he lying
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to Congress about he didn’t lie to
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Congress saying you know Oh covering up
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what Trump did he was lying somewhere in
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the investigation and so it was a
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process issue with no underlying crime
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and so to get seven to nine years for
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that is just really rare I mean he
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didn’t there was nobody killed her hurt
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or anything and it’s just very unusual
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and a Jabbar’s saw that one you know
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this isn’t right
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so before prosecuting attorneys who are
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involved in that case all resigned now
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look just clarify on that to all of
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these guys that are senior prosecutors
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can jump any day of the week and go out
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to private sector law firms who are
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defense law firms and get really good
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jobs they can probably be partners
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depending on who exactly they are so all
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four of these jump now why because they
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knew that the gig was up they were
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caught it was over they were gonna be
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disgraced
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so it’s cut and run and go take your
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golden parachute out and fall into one
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of these defense law firms defense law
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firms where they’re gonna be paid you
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know probably five to ten times what
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they’re earning right and what they were
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earning as a prosecutor so they’ve all
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jumped ship because the new
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these are the rats you know leaving the
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sinking ship they knew that if they’re
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if this was truly looked at closely that
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it was clearly going to be a political
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thing on their part so they were
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disgraced and so they get out before
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their disgrace can become public and
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once they’re gone they’re gone there’s
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nothing Agee Barkin can do unless that
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some of their conduct was actually
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illegal which is conceivable but with
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them gone it’s going to be much harder
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to get in there and dig it out and find
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out the details of it because they don’t
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have to go back and do anything anymore
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they’re gonna work for some private firm
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so that’s what’s going on now people
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have said that when Attorney General
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Barr came out the following day after
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Trump did his tweet and said you know
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these tweets make my job impossible to
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do
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that’s Attorney General bar being
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Attorney General bar that’s all that is
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it’s just he I think that was a very
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genuine straightforward comment that
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when Trump tweets these things it makes
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things much more difficult for him
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that’s true but to suggest for even a
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second that this is some sort of schism
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between President Trump and AG Bart’s
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just not the case AG bar didn’t go there
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because he was best buds with Trump he
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was not and he was a Bush appointee
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previously so he’s out of the you know
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that camp of the Republican Party if you
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will which is large but he’s in there
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because he wants to do a good job and
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the right thing and those were his
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motives for going in like I said he
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wasn’t there for the right reasons and
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so it’s it’s not that type of situation
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now they talk they’re friends you know
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friendly and all of that but you know
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bar doesn’t talk about his cases to
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trump there is that firewall that truly
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exists between the two of them they do
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chat about certain things but AG bar is
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not going in and briefing him on these
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cases Trump doesn’t know what’s coming
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out of a Feist a thing in specific terms
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you know I you know you for sure he
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knows that a lot of bad stuff is going
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to be made public on the final report
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and the indictments and all of that he
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knows all of that’s coming everybody
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knows that’s coming so but that’s the
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level of relationship that’s between
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them and the interaction that’s between
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them so there is i guarantee everyone
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100% there’s no problems between the two
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men they may disagree
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you know Trump’s tweets and stuff but
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everybody criticizes Trump for his
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tweets so what you know that I think one
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more guy that means nothing an attorney
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general bar has never considered
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resigning in fact I had a friend just
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speculate to me that he thought that
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that was a G bars leak that he was
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considering resigning and then a couple
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hours go by he comes out says absolutely
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not I’m not considering resigning so
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that it changed the news cycle I don’t
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know that that’s true I just thought it
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was a funny speculative point because it
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did change the news cycle and kicked
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everything out on to the next kind of
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the next level so nothing is true about
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any sort of problems between the two men
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nothing is true about him trying to
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resign the resignations of the four
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prosecutors in the stone case that’s
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what’s interesting and that’s what’s
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revealing and I’m guaranteeing everybody
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that’s the rats jump in that sinking
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ship fantastic that’s a great
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explanation thank you a semi-related
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follow-up question
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so Roger stone was convicted for lying
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to the FBI is that right that was the
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charge Congress yes lying to Congress
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okay you know yeah he didn’t they said
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that some of the stuff that he testified
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to is untrue but like I said it was a
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process crime it was that there was no
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underlying actual crime of doing
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anything wrong with trauma so when is
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James Comey going to jail for that well
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precisely so and in fact that was the
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basis of one of the president Trump’s
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tweets is that James Comey lied to
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Congress and you know there was nobody
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yelling for him to get convicted of
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anything and so did McCabe and was a
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peon on his lawn at five o’clock in the
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morning there was not a huge group of
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jima and ready to bust down as his door
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while his wife at him we’re standing
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there before the Sun came up in their
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bathrobes the arrest of stone alone was
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a breach of process that’s right
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all of that is true and like I said
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that’s why those for the award that
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that’s those four prosecutors they’re
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the ones that lined all that stuff up
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they’re the ones that leaked to CNN so
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CNN could be there on time you know this
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thing oh we just happened to be there
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because we were staking out his house
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I’ll load up come out CNN doesn’t
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stakeout Alex’s with a camera crew 24/7
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I mean that’s all you know
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it’s all horse manure it’sit’s just all
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lives of covering up political
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persecution of political opposition
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that’s exactly what’s happened there
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that’s why those guys are gone the jig
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like I said the jig was up the knew they
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were caught and they ran and they’re
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making more money

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