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Brad Johnson, President, and retired CIA Senior Officer and Chief of Staff. Insight into current events from an intelligence angle.

Brad Johnson on Impeachment fiasco and Ukraine

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Brad Johnson there is an awful lot going
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on speaking as somebody who very much
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admires and watches the states I got to
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admit as an awful lot I just don’t get
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so I think we should start with the
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Ukraine and maybe at some point also and
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I guess it’s related could you explain
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what the heck impeachment actually means
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because most people I know think it
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means that you’re being dethroned you’re
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you’re somehow being forcibly removed
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from office and that clearly isn’t what
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it is so you know take it away
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sure let’s in fact start with that kind
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of the definition of trees are why you
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would impeach somebody and how it would
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be done and essentially the president
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United States has to do something
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illegal he has to break the laws and be
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found to be guilty of those things and
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what the process is it starts on the
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house side and a majority has to vote
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for it then I think it’s it’s two-thirds
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in the Senate to confirm and confirm the
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impeachment now going forward there’s
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just so many problems that it’s just
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it’s kind of silly the way we’re ending
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up now it’s definitely going to hurt the
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Democrats in the long run but the the
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Democrats I think the magic number is
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they need to get 281 votes on the house
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side which is Nancy Pelosi in order to
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pass the impeachment and then it gets
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sent over to the Senate now up until now
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Nancy Pelosi has had one hundred and
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fifty or sixty votes Nancy Pelosi
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doesn’t want to do it she’s a seasoned
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political trooper and understands that
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this is not a positive for them but she
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understands also that it’s a requirement
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for the radical base that are the ones
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that vote in the primary and if they
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pissed that base off then they’re gonna
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have trouble in the general election so
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they’ve they’re they’ve gotten
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themselves into a real mess and that’s
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what’s happening on the on the
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Democratic side so she came out this
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morning early yesterday rather and said
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yeah well we’re gonna go forward with a
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I think the work she looked at was said
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was like investigation of impeachment or
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something to that in fact so it’s not
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like a real impeachment but we’re
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looking at an impeachment so she’s
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trying to kind of walk the edge and play
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both sides of the issue without actually
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declaring for impeachment or saying
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we’re not going to do it so she’s trying
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to walk down the middle and you know
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that doesn’t sound like a politician at
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all
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pardon me that doesn’t sound like a
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politician at all no of course not yes
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yes we were always so straightforward
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and honest so yeah actually doing the
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typical politician thing you’re right
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and so that’s that’s basically what the
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impeachment is high crimes and the other
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terms not misdemeanors high crimes and
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something else but basically felonies
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were felonies
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now go ahead felonies yeah absolutely I
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mean it you know I you know if it’s some
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misdemeanor thing it’s probably not
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gonna rise to the level where they’d get
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in that much trouble so you’re you’re
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probably gonna have to be in the felony
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world I mean it’s very theoretical to
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discuss that no I don’t think anyone’s
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ever been we’ve ever had a president in
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peached where they actually kicked out
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of office I mean Nixon resigned didn’t
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Clinton was impeached but it wasn’t
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confirmed by the Senate and back in
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history I believe it was a President
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Johnson way back when was was within a
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vote or two in the Senate of losing but
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he held held the vote so didn’t get
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impeached so there’s been some close
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calls but it’s never been actually
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enacted and the problem with the whole
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thing on the left is you know they say
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impeach impeach impeach this is all this
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and you if he did that that would be
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terrible it would be impeachable but
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well if he did that if he did that well
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true you know if he murdered ten people
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yeah how it would be impeachable but or
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if he did that or you know you can take
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any number of things that would be in be
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chable but the problem is he hasn’t done
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any of those things
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none of them it’s all made up it’s all
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invented you’re they’re still talking
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impeachment but they you notice nobody
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ever asks the question okay you want to
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impeach the president watch he guilty oh
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what’s the crime well if he had done
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this at me okay well if he did it yeah
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but what did he do
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I mean we need to have a concrete crime
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to impeach him for and they don’t cry
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she has to keep tripping them up by
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actually releasing the data that they’re
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destroyed once again and it shows that
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the Democrats for the joke they are the
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joke they’ve become and I went through
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this this morning it was released at
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10:00 a.m. this morning Eastern Time
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here in the Washington area and
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basically he just he said the essence of
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it was look if there’s something illegal
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go take a look at it you know finish the
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investigation it looks like this was
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blocked back in you know Joe Biden’s
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days when he was vice president did you
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see his what he said and his interviews
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about the whole thing and if there’s
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anything they are gonna follow through
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on it and coordinating back with I
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talked to Rudy Giuliani and make sure
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you’re on track and then make sure you
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follow up with us Attorney General Barr
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so what he’s saying is you know we have
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there’s anything illegal there follow up
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on it and work it back through the legal
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system here he’s asking both legal
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systems work like they’re supposed to
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well that’s also his job and when
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there’s things that are of now that
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takes place all up and down levels of
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the government myself as a former chief
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of station if there’s something like
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that that’s a problem that was in my
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level I mean those sorts of
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conversations take place every day
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ambassadors have those conversations
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Chiefs of station at those types of
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conversations and certainly other
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federal agencies that serve in embassies
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overseas have those conversations this
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was some stuff that if if Joe Biden
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blackmailed and was you know interfering
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in the judicial system of Ukraine and
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you know blackmailed them using us a to
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get this guy fired that was a prosecutor
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that was investigating his son’s company
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and his son if that’s what he meaning
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that is what he did he’s admitted to it
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if his motive was to save his truck son
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from getting in legal trouble
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well that’s illegal that’s a big deal
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and so the president’s saying look this
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is potentially a very big deal you know
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we never did find out the answer what is
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the answer go go you know see if you can
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dig it out and then just coordinated
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back through the legal system if it’s
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nothing it’s nothing if it’s something
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in something the other thing he asked
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about was the there apparently is a
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clone
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that was in Ukraine of Hillary Clinton’s
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the illegal server with all those
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classified documents on and emails and
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so on which there’s your tens of
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thousands of classified documents on
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those things if they have one
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so you said if you’ve got it you know we
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want to know which I can a massive
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illegal leak we don’t even know we
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haven’t seen all of the documents Aris
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and we don’t know where people killed as
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a result of these classified documents
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that were that were out there who all
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has seen them you know we don’t know and
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all that stuff so nobody’s ever been
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able to do a damage assessment so all
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that those are those are the two things
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basically asked about other than that it
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was you know there was no quid pro quo
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at all you know he didn’t say you go do
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that for me and and then I’ll do this
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for you or if you don’t do that for me I
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won’t do this for you I mean there was
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none of any of that the only person
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who’s actually 100% we know for a fact
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that asked for a quid pro quo was bite
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and he is admitted to it in multiple I
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want you to see you I watched a video on
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that today yeah let me ask you a
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question where I’ve watched a video of
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him saying that today it seems to me
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that since President Trump was elected
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there’s only two really consistent
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things and one is that the anti-state
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the sort of state within a state has
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been doing everything it can to destroy
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his presidency and the second thing is
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that it appears that every time
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president from about to release
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information or to begin an investigation
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on some of the staggering and
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unprecedented level crimes that it
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appears the Democrat Party or members of
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the Democrat Party have committed over
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the last maybe ten years that they are
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then just doing these Hail Marys and
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just randomly you know using President
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Trump of anything they can think of like
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throwing spaghetti against the wall to
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see if it sticks
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yes there’s no question that that’s
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what’s going on and I’ve mentioned it a
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number of times before but everybody in
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Washington knows what’s coming and
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McCabe is already in the process of
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being indicted for perjury it looks like
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it hasn’t come out so I mean we have to
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wait for confirmation but that’s that’s
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what it looks like he lied under oath
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three or four times maybe five
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it appears and so it’s probably going to
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be indicted
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probably for perjury so we’ll see that
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has to play out over the next week or
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two or something but beyond that the
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FISA requests that was originally done
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and don’t forget I mean some of the
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signers on that were former FBI director
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James Comey former Deputy Director of
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the FBI Andrew McCabe which who’s
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already going to be indicted now for the
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perjury stuff probably and then also you
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have that former attorney general and
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former Deputy Attorney General or both
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both were excuse me both were former
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Deputy Attorney General and US Attorney
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General and that was rod Rosen Steve you
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know Sally Yates I mean let’s let’s not
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forget those are just a few if there
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were other people who also signed those
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things those were that’s the initial
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FISA requests and then the three
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extensions all of those throughout the
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very beginning all of them knew
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perfectly well that all of the
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information was based on the steel
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dossier and that steel dick dossier was
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pure BS they all are documented to have
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known it was BS but used it to request
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the warrant of this FISA judge so that
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that opens that’s fraud or perjury or
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both in going forward making because
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they had to assure that Judge they had
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to testify to the what’s being in tained
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in there to be based on intelligence and
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to be true and correct both of all of
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that was which is false there was no
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intelligence in that the steel dossier
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was a political document bought and paid
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for by a political campaign
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it was opposition research that is not
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intelligence and then also they were
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they were saying it’s true and they knew
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it wasn’t so there that’s why it’s fraud
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perjury probably both something along
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those lines all that remains to be seen
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that will come out eventually everybody
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knows that’s coming everybody there’s no
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you know mistaken confusion anything so
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they’re trying to pre position
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themselves to blame Trump for anything
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and everything as you say throw us we
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get at the wall throw mud at the wall
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throw whatever they can throw to try and
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make it stick now on this a couple of
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very important details about what this
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current thing is in Ukraine first of all
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that guy that everybody is calling a
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whistleblower that is factually
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incorrect that person was never a
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whistleblower that is wrong a
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whistleblower
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under the definition and this is how the
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intelligence community works which is
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everyone knows that’s my background out
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of former CIA retired out of the CAA a
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and the intelligence community so a
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whistleblower is somebody who works
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within the IC within the intelligence
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community who sees something being done
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wrong within the intelligence community
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and he reports that to the authorities
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because they’re doing something illegal
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or wrong and more or whatever that then
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has protection under the law that
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whistleblower of that the way those laws
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are written is is precisely that it
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doesn’t say that you’re a whistleblower
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if you report on the Supreme Court it
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doesn’t say you’re a whistleblower if
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you pour it on Congress it doesn’t say
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you’re a whistleblower if you’re poured
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on the president none of those things
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you are only a whistleblower if you were
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a IC person reporting on the IC that did
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not happen
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and so from the very beginning from them
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first day this came out it was
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illegitimate that person does not have
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those protections under the law as a
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whistleblower that person that then you
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know and also it’s all false reporting
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the person didn’t even have first-hand
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access it was secondary access he heard
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about what was said and then went and
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reported this to the IG the IG is guy
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named Michael had consent now here’s my
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question Michael Atkinson then took that
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did what normally he would be supposed
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to do report it up to his boss which is
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just mcguire was acting DNI director of
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National Intelligence
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this is his boss and the real question
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is why did Act Kinnison take that and
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say oh this is a valid complaint it
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looks very reasonable and pass it on up
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and then suddenly it ends up in the
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hands of Congress it ends up in the
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hands of the Washington Post and it’s
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two paths that was all week so I would
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look closely at Adkinson and personally
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I would put him into the category
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without really having looked at him
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closely but I would put him into the
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category of this this resistance
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movement the anti-trump internal move
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his background I was all Attorney
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General stuff so he was working out of
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those same offices with those same
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people that were the guys that signed
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this Phi sub a request so he’s out of
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that same batch of people so I would say
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this was all 100% politically motivated
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the individual who’s the supposed
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whistleblower is somebody who’s already
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left the government so is somebody up
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there probably an NSC heard about all
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this stuff was looking for a chance to
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try and screw over Trump made this
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report Atkinson backed him up on it for
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the same political motives so I think
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this is a political hatchet job there’s
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very little way that this can be
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anything else now what’s being looked at
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right now is you know or what yeah what
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what’s being looked at is what
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protection does that whistleblower have
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if any if he can’t really be a
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whistleblower
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so does that guy’s identity come out do
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we see you it was do we see that he’s a
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political apparatchik if that does come
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out I’m telling you right now that’s
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what that guy is this is this is a
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political hatchet job that guy had a
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political motive for doing all of this
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and Trump you know chunk didn’t do
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anything there’s no illegal activity
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thing that took place in the middle of
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all of that so Trump is free and clearer
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and they’re gonna try to spin this into
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this or that or the other dope you know
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it’s a typical con job they’re gonna say
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see proof impeach but we need to impeach
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okay what was the proof well you know he
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asked for this and that and tit for tat
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and quid pro quo and blah blah blah
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where was it you know tell me you know
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let’s see the phrase that was in that
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conversation that you’re claiming is
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illegal where is it and they they’re
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never gonna say because there isn’t
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anything like that this is all
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politically motivated it’s all for
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multiple reasons multiple layers to this
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but it’s first of all to appeal to that
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radical left-wing base that still cannot
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adjust to the fact that Trump kicked
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their rear ends in an election and has
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just outdone them at every turn they
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just can’t handle that and so you’ve got
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this radical base that is the center
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power of the Democratic Party nowadays
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they have to have that boat and a lot of
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these congressmen are worried about
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being primary and kicked out and so
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they’re they have to appeal to this base
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that is just a plain fact of what’s
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going on the other half of it is is they
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see coming down the pike like I said all
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of the problems out of this vice
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investigation when all that hits they
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have their only defense is to say well
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you know you guys are guilty of this too
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you president Trump has done X X X X X
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and y ou Cavanaugh’s bad all this has
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been at you you guys are guilty of all
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the same stuff that’s their only defense
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what else can they do
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so that’s their only option and they’re
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trying to build every case they can to
15:49
try and point to all of these things but
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the problem is Trump’s better at all
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this and they are Trump’s ahead of him
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on every every step of the way and he’s
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not guilty of any of this stuff so it’s
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it’s backfiring to them because anyone
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who’s not that radical which is a fairly
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small percentage of the voters but
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they’re the ones who vote in the
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primaries all of the rest of those
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people that are required to vote
16:13
Democrat and the main elections are
16:16
being turned off by this but the
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Democrats are trapped they have no other
16:19
option because they have to win first in
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the primaries in order to go to general
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election and the only way to win in the
16:26
primaries is to appeal to this radical
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bloc once the election comes I think
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they’re gonna have a very very difficult
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time I would say we’re looking at a
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major catastrophe in the 2020 elections
16:37
coming up an easy win where you know but
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a lot of things can happen between now
16:43
and and and November 2020 for the
16:47
elections but you know I right now this
16:50
could be a 40 state sweep for president
16:53
Trump under the what the circumstances
16:55
that we see developing and especially
16:56
when this legal stuff hits the you know
16:59
people are tired of being lied to we see
17:01
now the mainstream media we see doubt
17:03
Democratic politicians and we see it out
17:04
as some of the I what I call the Rhinos
17:07
the Republican in name only guys the
17:08
liberal Republicans are just as guilty
17:11
of a lot of this stuff they’re not
17:12
standing up for the president like they
17:14
need to be and it’s kind of a shame
17:16
because the president’s doing all the
17:18
stuff they’ve said they want to do all
17:19
along all the conservative things
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you’re protecting in US interest
17:23
bringing jobs back bringing
17:24
manufacturing back you’ll low
17:26
unemployment all the things and being
17:28
very inclusive the lowest unemployment
17:30
rates for most of the minorities that
17:31
we’ve ever had and the poverty rates at
17:34
the lowest they’ve ever been for Latino
17:36
and black population the United States
17:38
and the lowest rates I’ve ever been so
17:40
it’s just it’s it’s it’s just craziness
17:43
if the Republicans aren’t backing him
17:44
but again he’s not their boy they don’t
17:46
like him so they would rather you know
17:49
lose than have president Trump succeed
17:51
it’s just it’s madness it’s yeah I see a
17:54
great deal of that I see a lot of people
17:56
I’ve even seen some fairly prominent
17:59
American public figures CNN figures and
18:02
so on publicly stated that they would
18:05
like to see the economy fail just so
18:07
people don’t vote for President Trump
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and I’m thinking how much suffering of
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regular folks would you like to see in
18:15
order to meet your abstract political
18:17
goals that’s really frightening well
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that’s the problem with the left in
18:21
general is they just don’t view things
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the way that any normal person would and
18:25
that’s that abstract thing where human
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suffering doesn’t matter as long as
18:29
their political point is made and that’s
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the socialist communist liberal leftist
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philosophy is all the same worldwide and
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that’s why you see these massive events
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where you know in the last hundred years
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you know including the two world wars
18:44
and stuff you’d see you know 100 million
18:47
people in the world have been
18:48
slaughtered and it’s always by the left
18:49
you’ll Nazis National Socialist German
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Workers Party the Soviet Union Popo
18:56
Chairman Mao you know all these guys
18:58
they they’ll slaughter people by the
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millions and they don’t care because it
19:03
makes their political point to have
19:05
these things go forward so they don’t
19:07
care and that’s precisely at the left
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here is exactly the same they don’t care
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about the misery the poverty or any of
19:12
that stuff as long as somehow their
19:14
political point is made and power
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remains in their hands that’s that’s
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that is what that is leftist
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philosophies always ends up back it like
19:23
power and their hands and no one else’s
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