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Brad Johnson on Wuhan Corona Virus Flu and Chinese deception

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Brad Johnson it is February the 4th 2020
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and the information coming out of
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everywhere about the Wu hen flu is
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starkly contrasting with itself there
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seems to be no way to really tell what’s
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true what isn’t true because there I
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mean I’m seeing segments of old Asian
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movies of Chinese people on the floor
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twitching and it’s claimed that this is
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whole schools of people with symptoms of
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epilepsy coming from Wu hen flu but and
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there’s one video which looks like an
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actual actual person with epilepsy
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that’s claimed to be and flu I mean I
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just don’t know what’s going on I mean
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the precautionary principle looks like
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the only way out of this what what what
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do we what can you tell us well a couple
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of things if this is really turning
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interesting now we did an interview on
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this subject earlier and one of the
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things I noted is that you know that
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whatever it is the Chinese saying that
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part you know is not true we may not
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necessarily know what is true but we can
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count on what they’re saying to be false
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to some degree or some way or another
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now again the option the biological
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weapons is not certainly any great
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specialty of mine but just looking at
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this from the propaganda techniques
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going on and and how they’re handling it
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and all there’s a there’s a lot that’s
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starting to float to the top becoming
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obvious one you know we were absolutely
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right in the previous interview where we
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noted that that they were lying and now
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this has started to come forth and and
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be apparent the problem of course was
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much bigger I suggested before you could
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take whatever numbers they give you add
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a zero at the end and that would be
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closer to the truth than what they’ve
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reported and that seems to be actually
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bearing out pretty accurately now a lot
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of reports have started to come out with
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different people who do have a
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background whether it’s legal or
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whatever in biological weapons and
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they’re starting to point out a lot of
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things about this now of course the this
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will hand coronavirus as it’s now kind
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of becoming known Wu Han is the town
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where they actually have one of their
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the Chinese have one of their
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centers that studies biological warfare
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and viruses and things like that so that
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has long ever since this broke the news
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broke of this virus it was immediately
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linked to that through rumors innuendo
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whatever and but it’s starting to look
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like there’s more possibility to this
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being actually true and the Washington
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Times has come out on it and as I said
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and others that are starting to report
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these connections there is also a link
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and this is something that we’ve
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discussed in previous interviews as well
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there’s a link to the a similar facility
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in Winnipeg in Canada that has also been
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involved in the study of viruses that
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has also been involved in a number of
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scandals on that that have looked at the
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Chinese penetrations of that facility
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and their control and ability to steal
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things from it so that’s something
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that’s long been in centering now if you
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just take all of the pieces and put them
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together it does suggest and this is
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something that people are starting to
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talk about that the Chinese stole it out
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of Winnipeg facility took it to Wu Han
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and and they had a leak there I I
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wouldn’t necessarily suggest that that
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the Chinese are leaked it on purpose
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although that is also something if this
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is true that’s that’s certainly
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consideration so a couple of things now
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the Chinese were suppressing all of the
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information on this and just letting out
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little dribs and drabs once it became
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clear that the problem was just escaping
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their control and one of the things I
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noted in the last interview is well you
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know we don’t know what’s going on
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because if this were all true as is we
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would start to see the videos that
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people sneak out through social media
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and things like that where they’ve they
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videotaped it on their phone and get
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them out now what’s changed is we’re
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seeing those videos there’s a lot of
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videos coming out being smuggled out of
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China that showed dead bodies and people
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being pulled off the street and guys in
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masks and like hazmat outfits that sort
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of thing the authorities running around
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doing all sorts of stuff there’s even
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been some some videos of what our body
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bags that appear to be full of bodies
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brought out and some of the numbers that
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are being kicked around now
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is a 85% infection rate which is very
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high and a 15% kill rate which is very
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high if those numbers prove out to be
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true I mean that’s like double what SARS
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was and that was a big deal if everyone
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remembers back a few years ago when SARS
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hit so this is starting to become a
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fairly dangerous flu virus that’s about
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coronavirus of virus that’s going around
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it is 15 percent kill rate is is
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astounding I mean that’s a lot of people
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that are going to die as this thing
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spreads and the Chinese are demanding
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that people keep distances and things
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like that not get too close and even
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some of the videos that smuggled out
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show like like you know pizza delivery
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guys will go up to the door you know
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knock on the door sort of thing and then
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step way back and they leave the pizza
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and then they step back and the
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purchaser will come put the like money
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on the pizza carrying case and take pick
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up the pizza and go away so that neither
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of them get within say 15 or 20 feet of
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each other so these things are now
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coming out so now that means that this
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stuff is true
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the virus is doing all of these things
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killing a lot more people than they’re
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reporting but but all these things then
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now are true so it it also leans some
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lends some credence to the possibility
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that this was escaped out of this lab in
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womb the epicenter for the problem is
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indeed where this viral Studies facility
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is located so the coincidences are
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starting to stack up and and you know
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how I don’t like that as an elapsed guy
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I just don’t like seeing a lot of
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coincidences it makes me suspicious of
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what’s what’s underneath all of that and
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I will point out a couple of things
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you’ll notice that all the protests have
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now stopped in Hong Kong and things like
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that that’s off that’s not in the news
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all of that is stopped that is an
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interesting aspect to this that nobody’s
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reporting on this is spread to Hong Kong
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and some of the sick people have gotten
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sick there now so not that the spread
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into Hong Kong was unusually fast or
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unusually slow but the fact is it has
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spread there
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being a city concentrated population
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would be particularly vulnerable
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vulnerable to something like this now
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again I know this is starting this is
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pure speculation I don’t mean to suggest
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this is even mind necessarily my
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thoughts on it but you could link these
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things together and at least be
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suspicious of this whole thing being
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started to just be leaked into Hong Kong
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and the Chinese are always worried about
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population so a reduction in population
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isn’t something that I think
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particularly concerns them and and
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leaked this into Hong Kong in order to
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get rid of the problem now again as I
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know that’s it’s starting to get you
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know highly theoretical at this point
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but that would be a theory that would
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kind of fit the circumstances as we see
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it and it would solve a big problem for
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China which is Hong Kong and the way
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that they’ve been rioting and all of
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that and would let them come in with the
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authority and impose themselves because
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of the medical necessity so it’s you
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know a long shot but viable theory as to
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what’s going on nevertheless it remains
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similar to our previous interview on
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this subject because we don’t know truly
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what’s going on or how big this problem
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is yet but these things are all starting
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to come out and it’s kind of turned the
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page we’re looking at it with a little
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bit more information now because of
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these smuggled out videos and so on
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which I kind of you know sort of semi
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predicted at our last thing stating that
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since we’re not seeing that you know we
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know that this is being tamp down which
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of course it has been so it’s an
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interesting turn of events I don’t know
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that this is necessarily linked to Hong
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Kong but like I said the coincidences
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are starting to stack up if we see the
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authorities go into Hong Kong in a big
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way in any of these other areas because
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of medical necessity I would be very
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highly suspicious than of how this whole
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thing got started and would maybe then
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start to suggest a little more
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forcefully that this was something that
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was kind of planned out or thought of
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all in advance so this has got there’s a
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lot more news to come out on this I
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would expect in the next week or ten
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days or so we’re gonna have a lot more
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information as it has been over the last
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week we’ve gained a lot more insight
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into what’s going on so it’s it’s going
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to be an interesting time to see how
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this
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turns out well there’s like this there’s
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a couple of interesting observations I
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think based on that one is boy what
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would happen if it turned out this
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disease was transmitted by money I mean
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like the whole pizza story begs the
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question hey what happens if the guy
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with a Wuhan flu touches money leaves
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the money on the pizza box it is it they
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have confirm that it’s airborne
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so that would those things are possible
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if somebody were to sneeze on a dollar
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bill and then you pick it up I mean I
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don’t know again not my area of
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expertise but I would suggest that
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that’s probably dangerous and all the
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Chinese and these videos are wearing
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these masks that cover their face so the
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next yeah the next question is I should
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say you said that the mortality rate was
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about 15 percent and that’s that sounds
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like a reasonable number because the
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Chinese are reporting it to be around
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one one-and-a-half percent and the
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self-appointed pundits in the West who
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are like making I guess somewhat
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fear-mongering they’re reporting it at
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50 or slightly greater than 50% and at
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least in terms of recovered versus died
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and I found you know I found that to be
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problematic if it was like that 50%
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mortality rate as Ebola and the third
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yeah I don’t I go ahead the third thing
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is is has anybody yet reported on any
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kind of long lasting effects of this
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virus to those who’ve recovered that is
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to say does it leave you in any way
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disabled physically or cognitively does
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this virus present like long lasting
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damage
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I say based on what we know so far
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apparently not and I don’t know that
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that would be something that a virus and
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normally does if it does it would
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certainly you know the the areas that
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we’ve seen in the past are a weakness in
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your breathing long system following
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this sort of thing where there’s scar
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tissue things of that nature so I mean
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there’s certainly conceivable problem
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they in the news the first person got
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released from the hospital after having
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the coronavirus and being held for two
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weeks recovered and it’s gone away they
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didn’t die and they’re apparently well
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enough to leave be released from the
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hospital with no at least immediately
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apparent damage to them so based on the
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one person it looks like that that it
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there won’t be many people that will
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suffer long-term effect and of course
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it’s always the young and the old weak
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that that are going to suffer more out
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of these sorts of things and the death
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rate is certainly higher among those
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groups and they are among say healthy
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adults so it will this will this will
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have to play out but so far it looks
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like that no permanent effects like I
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say based on anecdotal evidence of one
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person but will where all this is going
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to be clear because the people that have
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gotten it and recover will start to have
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more information on it in China they
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have that information probably to some
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degree now but of course we don’t see it
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they’re not releasing it and I don’t
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know how much access like the World
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Health Organization has but World Health
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Organization is a very leftist leaning
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or ghen ization so they’re going to be
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friendly to the Chinese so I would I
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would suggest they’re probably not the
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best source of information on anything
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that the Chinese do that’s not straight
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forward so it’ll take time I think the
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best information we’re going to get is
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when as this gets out to the West the
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United States Canada the Western Europe
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then we’ll start to compile accurate
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information and really see the truth of
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these things

 
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