Americans for Intelligence Reform

Brad Johnson, President, and retired CIA Senior Officer and Chief of Staff. Insight into current events from an intelligence angle.

Brad Johnson update on General Flynn, new evidence making big difference

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Brad Johnson it is September 11th 2019

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interesting day to begin with but want

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to talk about two things first is a

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general Flint as I recall was one of the

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the first casualties of the whole

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investigation on Trump remember my

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remembering that right and also some

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things have come out lady that might

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indicate that it was an entirely

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fictional the reasons for convicting the

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guy but you know what it’s so it’s just

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a dim echo in the back of my memory

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please straighten me out on that okay

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yeah yes you’re correct general Flynn

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was the first national security adviser

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of the president a head of the National

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Security Council if you will and he now

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the current man John Bolton who has just

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laughed was the third one in under the

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president’s first part of the first part

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of his term first term and which by the

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way is a little bit of a record I’m

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afraid not not the most positive thing

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in the world but yeah general Flynn was

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sort of was forced out and now what’s

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and so he made a plea deal and pled

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guilty and is accepting this type of

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certain type of sentence that was

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negotiated with the prosecutors and then

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presented to the judge who has to accept

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it now what’s very interesting is what

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he did well he’s back in court been back

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in court and a lot over the last week or

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so his last round of court and this is

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something we have talked about in

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previous interviews in his last stint in

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court the judge just berated him you

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know and said you’re willing to be

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branded a traitor after all your years

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in the military and that makes you you

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know no-good so-and-so traitor to your

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country you’re not a patriot you’re not

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anything you know good blah blah blah

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the judge went off on him now he sat

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quietly through all of that and said yes

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you know I accept my sentence and kept

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his mouth shut and just endured the you

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know the verbal beating up of by the

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judge the judge goes out and comes back

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and then

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okay sorry you know you know just

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understanding the situation and so on I

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apologize you know you’re you’re a fine

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person etc but the judge ended up on all

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of this as by basically saying something

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to the effect of I’ve never put an

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innocent man I were never convicted an

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innocent man in a plea deal and I’m not

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going to start now that’s kind of how he

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ended up now there was a great deal of

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legal analysis of what all this means

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now I I don’t even really care about the

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legal analysis of it what I care about

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is the human element of it and I’m not

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looking at the judge as some sort of

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legal entity I’m looking at him as a man

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and as a person how he responded to this

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and let’s not forget judges are people

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too and this judge looked at the

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situation he knows it’s bogus he knew

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way back then it was bogus and doesn’t

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like it because he knows the general

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Flynn as has made this deal basically to

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protect his son now what has slowly come

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out and now what’s being presented in

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court by general Flynn’s new lawyer are

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these details what is surfacing and just

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in a nutshell not raining tremendous

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detail on this but what’s surfacing on

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it is that that and let’s keep in my

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journal Flynn was interviewed by Peter

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straw who’s the disgraced senior FBI

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head of the CI division the

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counterintelligence division yeah so he

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was interviewed by that Geist rock and

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other people as well but out of all of

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those reports that everybody wrote up on

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on meeting him those reports stated that

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the FBI agents all concluded that

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general Flynn was telling him absolute

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truth all along and had nothing to do

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wasn’t doing anything wrong anywhere

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he didn’t perjure himself didn’t do

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anything to mess with their

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investigation told them everything he

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knew in a truthful fashion that was the

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conclusion general Flynn under these

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circumstances has been misinformed to be

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basically completely innocent of what

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the original charges were against him

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and the fear you know the supposed

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reason for the investigation against

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now part of that because this shows that

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behind the scenes there was a lot of

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discussion if he’s innocent

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how do we nail him now what’s important

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about that and deeply significant once

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again the prize in the United States

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Donald Trump is the big winner on this

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the reason is because you know the guy

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he’s innocent but you go after him

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anyway why

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and of course it’s political they needed

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to nail this guy and get him out of

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there to weaken the President of the

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United States and get him who knew a lot

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of how these things work out of the way

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so that he wouldn’t be interfering and

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creating trouble for their operation

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which was to remove the president

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legally elected president United States

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so these pieces of this are starting to

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surface and then this is like two things

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it’s making the president sure you know

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look awfully good that he’s been saying

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all this stuff is fake it’s proof

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documentary proof that this was

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political in nature so they did since

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they couldn’t really find anything that

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general Flynn did wrong

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they went looked and found some things

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about the son now apparently there were

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some questions about the son’s behavior

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I don’t know haven’t really looked at

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the boy don’t really care but the father

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general Flynn did what any loving father

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would do and he’s sacrificing his

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reputation and being convicted of a

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crime has been essentially bankrupted by

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this process to save his son who was

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then being targeted by the FBI and once

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again for political reasons so it’s a

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very very interesting turn of event like

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I said as this Flynn

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case unfolds and with the documentary

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proof that’s there you know why would a

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prosecutor withhold information that

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they’re required through the discovery

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process to provide to the defense team

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and did not so like I said there’s a lot

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of problems starting to unfold there and

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it’s back to the same crew who was there

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at the time Jim Comey Peter struck all

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of all of these same cast of characters

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so

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these you could really there’s a pattern

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starting to develop which is a criminal

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pattern of behavior on their part that

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is politically motivated they did things

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that are fairly black and white as

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illegal for political motives a

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political corruption not a criminal

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corruption I mean in the sense of what I

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the distinction I’m making there is that

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they were politically corrupt not

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corrupt in the sense of like the Mafia

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was paying him fifty thousand dollars

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under the table to leave them alone or

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something it’s it was based on their

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political views they allowed themselves

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to be corrupted where they broke the law

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in order to obtain the political outcome

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that they desired

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now that’s criminal as well they

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politicized their office absolutely

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but beyond politicizing their office

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they they use the powers of government

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to target innocent people for political

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motives now that’s absolutely

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third-world and and let me say I’ve

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lived in most of the rest of the world

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seen or seen most of the rest of the

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world and and spent many many I’ve spent

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decades overseas and the fundamental

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building block of society beyond like

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the family unit but it as a structure

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the fundamental building block of

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society is the legal system if that

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legal system doesn’t work and this is

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something again we’ve discussed

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previously then nothing can work because

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then the only way to enforce laws is not

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through the legal system the only way to

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enforce laws is through the use of force

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and so basically you have everything

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devolve to fiefdom of criminal power

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because who’s willing to go kill people

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to enforce the contract well you know

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not the average person they don’t want

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to do any of that sort of stuff but the

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average criminal is happy to kill

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somebody over money they do it every day

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we see these sorts of murders take place

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worldwide all the time so what happens

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is of course the those groups that are

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perfectly willing and happy to use force

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to get what they want are the ones that

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then 10 the power gravitates to them

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because you can’t go to the legal system

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that’s where you start to see the police

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paid off at and all of those things be a

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problem and even in you know using poor

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Mexico

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why beat up from time to time over these

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sorts of issues they get trapped in this

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cycle of wear that you can’t break out

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the police are paid for by you know a

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lot of the narco traffickers and the net

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transnational organized criminal groups

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because the government can’t afford to

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pay them because they’re bankrupt and to

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be elected in a place like Mexico you

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need a lot of money just like here looks

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like in Canada like everywhere else

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you need money to run for office and to

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win and what does that money come from

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since the economy’s crappy it comes from

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the criminals so to get elected to

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office in Mexico Colombia in many ways

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you require funding and that funding

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it’s just not something you’re gonna

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find in decent people’s hands that are

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willing to give it to you and the people

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that might be able to do that there was

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a Colombian named Galan years ago that

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got murdered by the narco traffickers

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because he was looked like an honest

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politician that was going to take it to

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him so they killed him and that’s the

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problem you know they get into this this

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trap this cycling and can’t get out so

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this this turn towards the perversion of

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our legal system for political gain is

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extraordinarily dangerous it creates

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chaos and that is something that that a

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country of laws like the United States

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and of the Constitution just cannot have

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we cannot allow it and if those people

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have done it to overthrow duly elected

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president United States for their own

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political desires that has to be treated

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in the most harsh manner possible and if

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it does indeed rise to the level of

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treason then everything should be on the

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table for their punishment and as we’ve

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discussed before US Attorney General bar

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has reinstated the federal death penalty

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so if indeed if indeed it’s true that

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and all of this can be proven beyond a

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shadow of a doubt I would say in this

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case then the death penalty should be on

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the table for these people that were

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involved and this this lesson needs to

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be driven home we cannot allow this this

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type of degradation of democracy and if

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the United States goes down the toilet a

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lot of the free world will follow it’s

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it’s going to be very difficult to

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recover and certainly would

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be hundreds of years before we see you

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know I think the level of civilization

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that we’ve enjoyed you know in the

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recent decades to resurface to the

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degree that we’ve seen it and enjoyed it

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you know so I love you know what’s

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tragic is that the people of Hong Kong

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clearly know that in the people of

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Canada do not yes I think you have a

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very valid point I would lump together

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if the Canadians and Americans don’t

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mind I would lump the Canadians and the

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North Americans in the US citizens

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together and on this and very few people

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realize just how valuable these things

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are how dangerous these problems are

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whereas Hong Kong as you say pointed out

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very correctly they’re they’re on the

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cusp of being under the absolute

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dictatorship Bootheel of the Communist

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Chinese party and if they crack down on

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them there is no personal freedom there

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is no personal freedom if you if you

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don’t say what they want you to say and

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if you don’t follow the party orders

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they’ll kill you or put you in jail or

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one way or another dispose of you so I

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certainly don’t want to see that here in

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the United States nor do I want to see

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that in Canada nor do I want to see that

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in Western Europe or really any place

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else if we can free these people to you

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know start to work to their potential

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and everything I’d be better for the

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entire world better trade better economy

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on the on the world stage so this is

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just it’s so fundamentally important and

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yet it’s being treated so trivially by

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certainly the press the mainstream press

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here in the United States and that that

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is a danger that cannot be allowed I’m

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very alarmed I hope that this gets taken

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care of

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I hope AG bar comes through with

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everything that I believe he will and

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will see but I think right now it looks

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like the Flynn general Flynn case has

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jumped to the forefront and his and a

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lot of this through his lawyer his new

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lawyer legal team is are really starting

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to pump these documents out so that gets

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in front of that judge I think the judge

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is gonna be very friendly to this

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because like I said he’s recognized from

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the beginning this whole thing is bogus

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and so this is the right circumstance to

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start to bring these P

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the the criminality of these people to

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the surface so everybody can see it

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so we’ll see it’s it but it’s a very

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very interesting stage and there’s now

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these things unwinds slowly through the

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legal system so it’s not like we’re

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gonna get big pieces out you know

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necessarily every day but there’s going

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to be some major things happening in

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that case over the you know short to

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mid-term and over the next month to

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three which we’re going to start to see

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these things pop up as it winds through

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the legal process so this is something

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for everyone to keep their eye on it’s

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in the scheme of things it’s very

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important for general Flynn personally

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I’m I’m thinking right now he’s got an

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extremely good chance of being

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completely exonerated and in fact the

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people who persecuted him not just

0:14:07.040,0:14:11.790
prosecuting him are going to be in some

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legal trouble so that would be justice

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it appears based on what we see so

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looking forward to see this see this

0:14:15.960,0:14:18.140
unfold

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you

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