Americans for Intelligence Reform

Brad Johnson, President, and retired CIA Senior Officer and Chief of Staff. Insight into current events from an intelligence angle.

Brad Johnson update on Iran Jan 5 plus a look at Canadian news coverage

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Brad Johnson it is January the 5th in

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2020 events are unfolding very quickly

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it does look like the worlds on notice

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that Obama is no longer in the White

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House can you catch us up with the

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events

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it looks like various Islamic groups are

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anyway just catch us up okay

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yeah I mean things are happening at it

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at a as you say breakneck pace just so

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we did a an initial interview on this

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yesterday following that I’ll just go

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through the sequence of events and try

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to bring us up almost exactly to the

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moment here as things break so quickly

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but so following the interview yesterday

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which was in sulemani was taken out by

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this drone strike in a vehicle along

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with another apparently five people so

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including his his number two his

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right-hand man so he was taken out then

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on the heels of that the Iranians come

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out and start blustering which is what

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they always do whether they mean it or

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don’t mean it it doesn’t matter that’s

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their natural response in this case they

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have they’ve clearly intended it to be

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the case and they’re saying we’ve got

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another you know 20 or 25 or I forget

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what the number was they use targets

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ready on the table ready to go now let

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me just say that number is almost

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certainly exaggerated they they maybe

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have you know something like that

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somewhere in the planning stage and as I

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pointed out in yesterday’s interview

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it’s to our benefit to speed that

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process up so that they act before

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they’re truly ready because then you

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know they’ve got less effective effort

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taking place that can be more easily

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stopped so and that is in fact what

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happened and one of the the updates for

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today is just in the last few minutes it

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came out that the one of the offshoots

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one of the groups backed by a by Iran

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attacked a US base or a base in keenya

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where there were US personnel and

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basically got wiped out so I mean that’s

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precisely the point I was trying to make

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first of all to an attack a base you

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know you’re it’s an armed

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hack against a defending army that isn’t

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something that you go oh you know it’s

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five o’clock let’s go and they say so I

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think another word for base might be

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fortress okay

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fortress and yeah more indicative of

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kind of the situation so to attack a

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fortress it’s not something you just

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decide in half an hour and go this means

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there was months of planning taking

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place and this is precisely the point

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that is proven today that I’ve mentioned

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yesterday and that is that when you

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provoke them to move before they’re

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ready it’s also tend to work and that’s

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what happened here clearly there’s been

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months and months of planning taking

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place practicing you know gathering

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materials and munitions and so on that

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we’re going to be required for the

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attack and so to suggest which everyone

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is doing you know the CBC here the

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United States even Fox News Western

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Europe everyone’s saying oh you know

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Trump has provoked all this stuff well B

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X I mean that’s absolutely black and

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white wrong and this is the perfect

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example to prove the point I was making

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yesterday months and months of planning

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going into this it was provoked yes but

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was it not going to happen if Trump had

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not taken out sulemani clearly that’s a

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false premise that’s being promulgated

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by almost everybody I mean they’re just

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all wrong everybody everywhere in the

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press is wrong you’re getting the right

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and the perspective on this right here

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and that is that they were prepared to

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do all of these things already anyway

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they were already planning them they

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were already funding them they were

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already training for them and this was

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provoked into action in Kenya and they

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basically got wiped out okay a win for

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the good guys on this

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they were provoked to act before they

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were fully ready something they were

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going to do anyway

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so in the scheme of things that’s a net

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win for us now

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some of the other things going on then

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Trump then responded by saying well you

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know we’ve got a list of 35 things I

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think it was at that number of that are

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ready to roll to it to attack you so if

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you keep this going we’re gonna hurt you

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way worse than you can hurt us which

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absolutely that’s the case because the

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millet the US military has the full

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range of options from kinetic to

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asymmetrical things all of the full

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of objects now I ran everyone knows here

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an included that they cannot go

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toe-to-toe with the US military on a

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military-to-military a state to state

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type conflict so there’s just that’s

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never going to be considered so the only

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thing they have is asymmetrical warfare

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tactics which is decision what you see

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the kind of the high end of that would

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be like this attack on that base where

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they would hit and run sort of thing and

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so came out and said we have all of

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these things that we’re going to do and

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he in fact just did another one just in

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the last hour it’s to another caravan

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car carrying high-level people two

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vehicles got taken out presumably by

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another drone attack outside of Baghdad

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apparently six people apparently killed

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in these two vehicles they’ve not been

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confirmed yet but everybody when

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everybody’s seeing is that these are a

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couple of guys from that were the

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leadership of these militias these are

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the the same militias that would have

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been involved either directly or

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indirectly through support of the attack

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into the Green Zone where they went over

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the wall if you will broke through win a

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mile or so to get to the embassy where

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they could occupy that area and burn it

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down and destroy it and do whatever they

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you saw in the news there were plenty of

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photographs so for the damage that was

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done there so Trump has followed up on

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it both I would say at this point have

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independently followed up with their

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threats to do things and both did what

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they could easily do fairly quickly and

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I think this is is kind of what we see

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but each time the United States acts it

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damages them each time they act it’s a

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net loss to them so now they can claim a

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propaganda victory but that’s it you

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know as far as military or effective

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missile and they they just essentially

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are wiping out their assets good for us

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as I mentioned yesterday this

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provocation of them to get them to act

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before they’re truly ready that’s good

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for us not bad so I think we’ll see now

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this was in Kenya because they were

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probably closest to being ready there

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and courts more wild and woolly if you

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will in Africa so easier to stage these

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types of things and smuggle materials in

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so they were probably more advanced in

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the planning stage where say here in the

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United States or Canada or the Western

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Europe it’s a little more difficult to

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be prepared and to be to that level but

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I think

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we’ll see axe here meaning here US

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Canada Western Europe as well especially

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over the next few months I it’s going to

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happen now a lot of people have

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speculated including secretary state

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pompeya that’ll be some sort of

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cyberattack yes you know I would I would

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be expecting some efforts along those

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areas to but that doesn’t get them

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headlines so that’s not going to be

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their primary effort their primary

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effort is going to be more on the lines

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of something kinetic even if it’s a guy

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at a bridge with an axe something along

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those lines is going to be what their

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primary goal is because that gets them

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headlines and that’s what they want

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because that that from their perspective

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and what they preach and on all of this

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is that that brings terror to us and

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that’s what their objective and doing

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these things is so that we can’t sleep

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at night and we’re worried and these are

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the things that they say now a couple of

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other things out of that this is one of

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the things that I mentioned that the

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Trump administration in yesterday’s

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interview is going to be looking at

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these sorts of things so you know that

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has already played itself out same thing

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goes for what the Iranians are doing

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that has already played itself out one

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other thing I’ll comment on is that I

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talked about John Bolton yesterday

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saying I really hope somebody in the

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administration is looking at this saying

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you know jumbo was actually right maybe

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we should kind of reconfigure and take a

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look the guys I have here who are

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telling me to do it this way and one of

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the other items that’s come out this is

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very quietly going on is that NSC was

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bloated now the National Security

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Council that’s the White House security

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people who follow kind of all of the

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security national security aspects and

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that was really bloated up to a huge

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number under Obama and now what Trump

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has done is quietly cut that right down

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to the bone so they’re getting rid of

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all of those people which let me tell

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you most of those guys were dead weight

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most of those guys were Obama holdovers

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most of them were fighting as hard as

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they could against the interests of the

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president the administration and the

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people of the United States of America

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and the world for that matter because a

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safe secure United States makes a safe

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secure world for everyone and so they

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were fighting against all of that for

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personal political motive

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that’s where we saw these leaks come out

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and a lot of the problems that took

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place for the president so the president

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two years in has figured all this out

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and act first to clean up the NSC there

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are going on now just me telling you

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this is this is how this works not that

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somebody has told me specific names but

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they’ll they’ll they’ll get it down to a

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core group of people that they really

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need to do this not this bloated

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bureaucracy and they’ll they’ll change

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out some of those people in those

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positions and bring in people that the

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president now has figured out that are

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more reliable to do this work so all of

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this taken together this is a huge step

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forward this is going to be a

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particularly big win in the long run for

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the President of the United States and

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his administration and I think you’ll

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see his policy begin to improve because

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now that we all know the president

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United States is a businessman from New

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York he’s not a politician he hasn’t

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followed these things forever so it

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doesn’t have 25 years of background and

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experience to look at all of these

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things nor the personnel that come with

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that

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so he’s been surrounded by two groups of

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people the Obama holdovers and

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essentially the RINO the Republican

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right now never Trump our group of

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people and that’s who’s been in the NSC

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now with that cleaning of house the

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information that’s going to start to

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come to him is going to be of a much

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higher quality let me tell you what’s

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happening next you know how I love to

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predict and here’s here’s what’s going

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to have to follow on the heels of this

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now I’m not saying tomorrow but at some

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point over or say could be the next year

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could be right after the elections next

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that in November but somewhere in there

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the president is going to need to start

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to clean house in other places high on

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the list are going to be FBI CIA and NSA

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he’s going to have to take a look at

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those areas as well so me personally I

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think the process going on at DOJ and

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FBI with the dirham investigation and so

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on he’s going to automatically clean

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house there and set things in motion and

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NSA’s a little quieter there a little

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bit in their own box hidden in a bunker

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someplace so you’ve got the the CIA is

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going to be the first step in my opinion

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predictions you know of have mostly been

0:11:02.970,0:11:05.760
accurate so far on this

0:11:04.350,0:11:09.240
so that’s what I predict going to happen

0:11:05.760,0:11:11.460
next in in in this line of things that

0:11:09.240,0:11:14.850
are taking place so I think you’ll see I

0:11:11.460,0:11:16.590
think there’s a very good chance Jeana

0:11:14.850,0:11:18.480
Haskell’s job is in a great deal of

0:11:16.590,0:11:20.940
jeopardy she’s the current director of

0:11:18.480,0:11:23.100
the CIA I doubt she recognizes that fact

0:11:20.940,0:11:25.980
I don’t think she’s very forward-looking

0:11:23.100,0:11:27.720
on what’s going on at NSC being impact

0:11:25.980,0:11:31.710
to her but a lot of those people that

0:11:27.720,0:11:34.500
were seconded to NSC came out of the CIA

0:11:31.710,0:11:35.970
other places to military and so on but a

0:11:34.500,0:11:37.530
lot of them came out of the CIA and

0:11:35.970,0:11:41.010
they’ve now just been sent back to the

0:11:37.530,0:11:42.780
CIA so I mean that if if she’s bright

0:11:41.010,0:11:46.500
enough to figure it out there’s writing

0:11:42.780,0:11:48.630
on the wall to read so I would make sure

0:11:46.500,0:11:51.420
you you burn all your damaging and

0:11:48.630,0:11:52.770
documents Gina right now because I think

0:11:51.420,0:11:55.320
that’s what’s going to happen and she’ll

0:11:52.770,0:11:57.660
be replaced in the fairly short fairly

0:11:55.320,0:12:00.090
short run so tremendous a lot of things

0:11:57.660,0:12:03.990
going on a lot of ripples one final

0:12:00.090,0:12:06.120
point on this is what I think everyone

0:12:03.990,0:12:08.970
needs to understand about Iran and what

0:12:06.120,0:12:10.860
John Bolton I think has been pushing now

0:12:08.970,0:12:13.560
I haven’t been told this this is me

0:12:10.860,0:12:16.680
guessing as to what his part of what his

0:12:13.560,0:12:19.260
game plan was where he lost politically

0:12:16.680,0:12:20.970
certainly it was regime change in Iran

0:12:19.260,0:12:23.790
there’s no doubt whatsoever he’s spoken

0:12:20.970,0:12:25.560
about it public and came out either late

0:12:23.790,0:12:27.180
yesterday or this morning in fact I was

0:12:25.560,0:12:29.130
saying gee now maybe we’ll all take a

0:12:27.180,0:12:31.230
look at this and he took his victory lap

0:12:29.130,0:12:33.540
which I I actually kind of said I didn’t

0:12:31.230,0:12:35.640
think he would but he did in fact stand

0:12:33.540,0:12:37.560
up and say he’s gee you know I guess I

0:12:35.640,0:12:39.840
was right why don’t we take serious look

0:12:37.560,0:12:42.900
at regime change now what does that mean

0:12:39.840,0:12:46.050
well that means is covert action program

0:12:42.900,0:12:48.900
to do what the sulemani has been doing

0:12:46.050,0:12:51.720
to us for decades he was running covert

0:12:48.900,0:12:54.470
action programs creating militia and all

0:12:51.720,0:12:56.310
of these groups that were surrogates

0:12:54.470,0:12:58.830
acting against the interests of the

0:12:56.310,0:13:01.800
United States and he killed hundreds of

0:12:58.830,0:13:03.930
Americans and many many more Europeans

0:13:01.800,0:13:06.690
and many many mean more just innocent

0:13:03.930,0:13:08.460
civilians I mean some are saying in the

0:13:06.690,0:13:10.020
hundreds of thousands which I believe

0:13:08.460,0:13:12.030
that I mean I believe that’s all true a

0:13:10.020,0:13:15.480
lot of people are dead because of the

0:13:12.030,0:13:17.889
sulemani and the Iranian leadership the

0:13:15.480,0:13:19.809
world would be better off without them

0:13:17.889,0:13:21.670
and now how would we accomplish that and

0:13:19.809,0:13:24.759
that’s that covert action which I

0:13:21.670,0:13:26.859
there’s just poetic justice in this this

0:13:24.759,0:13:29.049
is the tactic they’ve been using against

0:13:26.859,0:13:32.410
us using surrogates covert action

0:13:29.049,0:13:35.199
surrogates against us for decades that

0:13:32.410,0:13:37.359
is what we should be doing in Iran the

0:13:35.199,0:13:39.429
Iranian people hate these guys the

0:13:37.359,0:13:41.739
majority of them are not happy with the

0:13:39.429,0:13:43.749
with the regime in charge so there would

0:13:41.739,0:13:45.790
be a there’s been a couple movements

0:13:43.749,0:13:47.619
even not that long ago where the

0:13:45.790,0:13:49.299
Iranians were trying to stand up to

0:13:47.619,0:13:51.189
overthrow the government and fight back

0:13:49.299,0:13:53.559
and they got quashed and we didn’t jump

0:13:51.189,0:13:56.859
in and help that group of people that

0:13:53.559,0:13:59.410
are all still there and as you know and

0:13:56.859,0:14:01.989
taken in the hole so there’s a very

0:13:59.410,0:14:03.749
fertile area for a covert action program

0:14:01.989,0:14:06.249
by the United States to create

0:14:03.749,0:14:08.379
opposition in Iran fighting against the

0:14:06.249,0:14:11.859
regime and that’s what needs to be done

0:14:08.379,0:14:13.779
my belief is as I said no one has told

0:14:11.859,0:14:15.459
me this but that’s the logical thing

0:14:13.779,0:14:16.959
that John Bolton would be saying is

0:14:15.459,0:14:18.669
that’s how you get regime change you

0:14:16.959,0:14:21.489
don’t want open war nobody’s suggesting

0:14:18.669,0:14:23.889
a more John Bolton never talked about

0:14:21.489,0:14:25.689
open war but what you could do is just

0:14:23.889,0:14:27.790
take advantage of the fact that most of

0:14:25.689,0:14:30.399
the people hate the regime in Iran and

0:14:27.790,0:14:32.439
use covert action to overthrow them and

0:14:30.399,0:14:34.449
certainly what you would do is their

0:14:32.439,0:14:36.189
resources which they’re already in some

0:14:34.449,0:14:38.319
economic trouble because the sanctions

0:14:36.189,0:14:40.299
would be really strained they’re being

0:14:38.319,0:14:44.110
real economic problems if they had to

0:14:40.299,0:14:46.059
fight a civil war so that’s the last

0:14:44.110,0:14:47.230
item on this that really floats to the

0:14:46.059,0:14:49.480
surface but these are the things

0:14:47.230,0:14:54.249
bubbling along and now they’re bubbling

0:14:49.480,0:14:55.869
along with a new NSC being formed by the

0:14:54.249,0:15:00.040
president United States and I think he’s

0:14:55.869,0:15:02.289
taken this I the president United States

0:15:00.040,0:15:04.809
is taking a personal interest in this so

0:15:02.289,0:15:08.499
wonderful to see so I asked you earlier

0:15:04.809,0:15:11.949
to watch two clips about this event

0:15:08.499,0:15:14.829
outside the Baghdad Airport but they

0:15:11.949,0:15:16.859
were from CBC now I definitely want you

0:15:14.829,0:15:20.139
to weigh in on how you view that

0:15:16.859,0:15:22.929
particular CBC’s take on it before you

0:15:20.139,0:15:26.259
do I just like to offer this this little

0:15:22.929,0:15:28.660
insight as to what the CBC actually is

0:15:26.259,0:15:31.449
most people even people who oppose the

0:15:28.660,0:15:35.379
CBC view it as government

0:15:31.449,0:15:36.429
or a government media organization and

0:15:35.379,0:15:39.339
it actually isn’t

0:15:36.429,0:15:40.959
because when Brian Mulroney conservative

0:15:39.339,0:15:43.360
Prime Minister Stephen Harper was Prime

0:15:40.959,0:15:46.869
Minister both conservatives the CBC was

0:15:43.360,0:15:50.110
virulently irrationally and rapidly

0:15:46.869,0:15:53.439
against them and used grotesquely unfair

0:15:50.110,0:15:54.670
to CNN like tactics if you like against

0:15:53.439,0:15:57.730
both these Prime Minister for their

0:15:54.670,0:16:00.639
entire generation of their their their

0:15:57.730,0:16:02.079
prime ministership and so I think what

0:16:00.639,0:16:06.129
actually makes a lot more sense is to

0:16:02.079,0:16:09.459
look at the CBC as a common turn at

0:16:06.129,0:16:11.559
worst or a socialist mouthpiece which is

0:16:09.459,0:16:13.660
paid by the Canadian taxpayer but and

0:16:11.559,0:16:16.600
they’re the ones who decide which Prime

0:16:13.660,0:16:18.579
Minister’s get their support and

0:16:16.600,0:16:20.649
attention and spin things the right way

0:16:18.579,0:16:22.959
based on whether or not those prime

0:16:20.649,0:16:24.790
ministers have the views the CBC support

0:16:22.959,0:16:26.230
so I think it’s important to understand

0:16:24.790,0:16:29.079
which is the dog and which is the tail

0:16:26.230,0:16:31.319
in this case and so I think that these

0:16:29.079,0:16:33.910
two videos that they produced about

0:16:31.319,0:16:37.389
about the termination of this of these

0:16:33.910,0:16:40.540
monsters these these are rape these al

0:16:37.389,0:16:41.889
Cubs and Hezbollah monsters I think this

0:16:40.540,0:16:46.389
might be revealing of that what do you

0:16:41.889,0:16:48.009
think yes I you you race a number of

0:16:46.389,0:16:50.199
interesting points out of all of this

0:16:48.009,0:16:53.410
well worth you know a moment of

0:16:50.199,0:16:55.809
discussion the the news reporting the

0:16:53.410,0:16:58.119
CBC News reporting in Canada is

0:16:55.809,0:17:00.129
interesting and if you kind of again

0:16:58.119,0:17:02.410
sort of step back and just look at the

0:17:00.129,0:17:04.299
tone I find that personally very

0:17:02.410,0:17:06.699
fascinating and I think what you would

0:17:04.299,0:17:09.039
see is there’s very little effort to

0:17:06.699,0:17:12.519
actually report it’s it’s far more

0:17:09.039,0:17:14.620
interested in influence than informing

0:17:12.519,0:17:16.120
and which by the way I mean they’re not

0:17:14.620,0:17:17.139
the only place guilty of that certainly

0:17:16.120,0:17:19.299
that’s what you see in the mainstream

0:17:17.139,0:17:20.919
media in the United States and I agree

0:17:19.299,0:17:23.980
with you I think that’s for very similar

0:17:20.919,0:17:25.360
reasons philosophically those people

0:17:23.980,0:17:26.860
just believe that that’s the right thing

0:17:25.360,0:17:28.089
to do I mean they’re completely wrong

0:17:26.860,0:17:29.649
but that’s what they just

0:17:28.089,0:17:34.139
philosophically think is the right thing

0:17:29.649,0:17:37.240
to do and so who’s pulling the strings I

0:17:34.139,0:17:39.490
you know there are the George Soros

0:17:37.240,0:17:43.210
people of the world that certainly are

0:17:39.490,0:17:44.860
pushing that you know that philosophy

0:17:43.210,0:17:46.929
that way of looking you have a woman

0:17:44.860,0:17:48.730
within the churches that look it that

0:17:46.929,0:17:50.290
way certainly that you know the Jesuits

0:17:48.730,0:17:52.660
have long been an arm of the Catholic

0:17:50.290,0:17:54.190
Church that are truly radical left-wing

0:17:52.660,0:17:56.110
you know they don’t believe in owning

0:17:54.190,0:17:58.840
anything and everything should go to the

0:17:56.110,0:18:01.750
port it’s an extreme form of socialist

0:17:58.840,0:18:04.420
teaching is what they back which by the

0:18:01.750,0:18:06.790
way your Prime Minister went to a Jesuit

0:18:04.420,0:18:09.400
school worth pointing out that he he was

0:18:06.790,0:18:11.980
raised with that background so you have

0:18:09.400,0:18:14.080
this extreme socialist communist leftist

0:18:11.980,0:18:15.730
philosophy it’s all the same thing it

0:18:14.080,0:18:17.650
doesn’t really matter what you want to

0:18:15.730,0:18:19.330
call it it it still represents the same

0:18:17.650,0:18:20.860
philosophy and that’s what you see at

0:18:19.330,0:18:22.360
CBC in mainstream media here in the

0:18:20.860,0:18:24.730
United States for the vast majority of

0:18:22.360,0:18:26.770
them but so just take a look at the way

0:18:24.730,0:18:30.100
that the reporting on sulemani as

0:18:26.770,0:18:31.870
suleiman has been handled and i just

0:18:30.100,0:18:34.270
watched one of the reports that you sent

0:18:31.870,0:18:37.480
me was very interesting and they went to

0:18:34.270,0:18:40.570
a reporter who basically pure spin there

0:18:37.480,0:18:43.960
was almost nothing oh yes you know he is

0:18:40.570,0:18:46.450
a leader of cousin and the main man in

0:18:43.960,0:18:48.309
the military for the iranians and i was

0:18:46.450,0:18:49.990
it the subject was changed but the

0:18:48.309,0:18:52.780
emphasis on this story was he was a

0:18:49.990,0:18:55.870
diplomat many canadians may be

0:18:52.780,0:18:57.580
unfamiliar with Qasem Soleimani so laura

0:18:55.870,0:19:00.880
McQuillan is here to tell us more about

0:18:57.580,0:19:03.910
him so Laura tell me a little bit more

0:19:00.880,0:19:07.150
well he’s regarded by many as the second

0:19:03.910,0:19:08.890
most powerful man in Iran second only to

0:19:07.150,0:19:11.710
the supreme leader there and that’s

0:19:08.890,0:19:14.679
because of not just as military power or

0:19:11.710,0:19:16.120
our pro-west but also for his diplomacy

0:19:14.679,0:19:19.360
which was such an important role that he

0:19:16.120,0:19:21.309
played he was the mastermind of Iran’s

0:19:19.360,0:19:23.080
military activities right across the

0:19:21.309,0:19:26.530
Middle East things like intelligence

0:19:23.080,0:19:28.540
strategy warfare he led its Kurds forces

0:19:26.530,0:19:30.700
for two decades but as I mentioned a

0:19:28.540,0:19:32.559
diplomat as well quietly forming

0:19:30.700,0:19:33.820
relationships behind the scenes with

0:19:32.559,0:19:36.280
groups like Hezbollah like Hamas

0:19:33.820,0:19:39.250
providing training funding and weapons

0:19:36.280,0:19:42.250
for those groups he really was very much

0:19:39.250,0:19:45.250
a covert operator until at least 2003

0:19:42.250,0:19:47.410
when the u.s. invaded Iraq and then we

0:19:45.250,0:19:50.020
saw Soleimani pushing militant groups to

0:19:47.410,0:19:53.320
attack US forces he hoped to develop

0:19:50.020,0:19:54.550
those pro-iranian militias in Iraq as

0:19:53.320,0:19:57.150
well and also in more recent years

0:19:54.550,0:19:58.600
helped spearhead Bashar al-assad’s

0:19:57.150,0:20:01.360
pushback again

0:19:58.600,0:20:03.309
rebels uprising in Syria and the fight

0:20:01.360,0:20:05.740
against Isis there as well so all of

0:20:03.309,0:20:07.660
that made him a US target for some years

0:20:05.740,0:20:09.940
and just two years ago he gave a

0:20:07.660,0:20:11.350
chilling warning to US president Donald

0:20:09.940,0:20:13.929
Trump I want to show you the comments

0:20:11.350,0:20:16.090
that’s all the money made saying mr.

0:20:13.929,0:20:17.650
Trump the gambler I’m telling you know

0:20:16.090,0:20:19.929
that we are close to you in that place

0:20:17.650,0:20:22.120
that you don’t think we are you will

0:20:19.929,0:20:23.830
start the war but we will end it and a

0:20:22.120,0:20:25.720
lot of people are wondering today the

0:20:23.830,0:20:27.250
message behind that Hannah as some

0:20:25.720,0:20:30.490
people see this being on the verge of

0:20:27.250,0:20:32.140
war and what could happen next for the

0:20:30.490,0:20:34.150
region well with us death a lot has been

0:20:32.140,0:20:35.710
made of who is going to fill that void

0:20:34.150,0:20:38.260
of course we have seen threats of

0:20:35.710,0:20:41.260
retaliation from Iran we’ve also seen

0:20:38.260,0:20:43.120
Iraqi militants or militias say that

0:20:41.260,0:20:44.710
they will retaliate against the United

0:20:43.120,0:20:46.780
States as well not just for his killing

0:20:44.710,0:20:48.220
but that of one of their leaders but

0:20:46.780,0:20:50.590
some groups like Hezbollah are also

0:20:48.220,0:20:52.299
promising to step into that gap and I

0:20:50.590,0:20:54.220
want to show some comments from the

0:20:52.299,0:20:55.630
leader of Hezbollah in Lebanon saying

0:20:54.220,0:20:58.390
meeting out the appropriate punishment

0:20:55.630,0:21:00.190
to these criminal assassins will be the

0:20:58.390,0:21:03.190
responsibility and task of all

0:21:00.190,0:21:04.900
resistance fighters worldwide we who

0:21:03.190,0:21:07.600
stayed by his side will follow in his

0:21:04.900,0:21:09.549
footsteps and strive day and night to

0:21:07.600,0:21:11.980
accomplish his goals so at this point

0:21:09.549,0:21:13.539
Hannah very much wait and see who pops

0:21:11.980,0:21:16.210
up who does what what that retaliation

0:21:13.539,0:21:17.980
might look like and when it might happen

0:21:16.210,0:21:20.260
of course we’ve seen the United States

0:21:17.980,0:21:23.620
telling it the citizens get out of Iraq

0:21:20.260,0:21:25.480
we’ve seen US governments internally

0:21:23.620,0:21:27.280
ramping up efforts to keep their

0:21:25.480,0:21:29.860
citizens safe and also the u.s. sending

0:21:27.280,0:21:32.289
more troops into Iraq with Middle East

0:21:29.860,0:21:33.909
now all that bracing for what might come

0:21:32.289,0:21:35.860
next at this point we’re not quite sure

0:21:33.909,0:21:37.950
what there might be and that he was you

0:21:35.860,0:21:40.059
know had established relationships with

0:21:37.950,0:21:41.950
Hizbollah and other groups like that

0:21:40.059,0:21:43.510
well alright ladies and gentlemen boys

0:21:41.950,0:21:46.830
and girls let’s talk about what that

0:21:43.510,0:21:49.419
really means yes he established

0:21:46.830,0:21:51.460
relationships with those people but

0:21:49.419,0:21:53.350
those are precisely the covert auction

0:21:51.460,0:21:55.210
types of relationships that I was

0:21:53.350,0:21:56.620
discussing earlier those are not

0:21:55.210,0:21:58.570
something where it’s state-to-state

0:21:56.620,0:22:01.090
friendly relationships we’re making

0:21:58.570,0:22:03.669
trade deals law that that means he’s

0:22:01.090,0:22:05.049
took over those organizations and

0:22:03.669,0:22:08.169
directed them through the use of money

0:22:05.049,0:22:10.690
in force now let me just point out if

0:22:08.169,0:22:12.240
there was somebody in Hizbollah that was

0:22:10.690,0:22:15.780
resisting his

0:22:12.240,0:22:17.220
orders in an influence and the things

0:22:15.780,0:22:19.530
that he wanted done what happened to

0:22:17.220,0:22:22.350
those guys in his beloved he killed them

0:22:19.530,0:22:24.720
so this is this is not diplomacy and

0:22:22.350,0:22:26.220
what was he having these guys do go

0:22:24.720,0:22:27.750
attack people were though who are the

0:22:26.220,0:22:30.090
victims of these attacks for the most

0:22:27.750,0:22:31.920
part you know Hizbollah you know isn’t

0:22:30.090,0:22:34.080
out gathering money for orphans they’re

0:22:31.920,0:22:36.030
strapping bombs to orphans and sending

0:22:34.080,0:22:37.770
them in to kill innocent civilians so I

0:22:36.030,0:22:41.190
mean this is the type of behavior to

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call that diplomacy in Canadian

0:22:41.190,0:22:46.350
reporting is just a travesty it really

0:22:43.770,0:22:48.120
is a travesty so why would they be so

0:22:46.350,0:22:50.610
extreme to do those things well I think

0:22:48.120,0:22:53.600
that remains to be seen how real overly

0:22:50.610,0:22:56.220
long discussions but clearly as I said

0:22:53.600,0:22:59.460
they’re reporting on this instance in

0:22:56.220,0:23:02.540
particular is just a textbook example of

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how to try to manipulate information to

0:23:02.540,0:23:08.460
influence perspective versus informing

0:23:06.990,0:23:10.080
the people so that they have the truth

0:23:08.460,0:23:11.580
and can make up their own mind on issues

0:23:10.080,0:23:13.260
it’s just so black and white and so

0:23:11.580,0:23:15.210
clear especially with my background

0:23:13.260,0:23:17.760
looking at it you look at it go wow you

0:23:15.210,0:23:19.590
know this is this is textbook fairly

0:23:17.760,0:23:23.910
childish propaganda it’s not even very

0:23:19.590,0:23:26.160
good so I don’t know why they do that

0:23:23.910,0:23:28.080
how much influence there is I would

0:23:26.160,0:23:30.120
think it’s it’s almost a thing that I

0:23:28.080,0:23:32.340
guess I would Tabet as their fellow

0:23:30.120,0:23:35.580
travelers that that was sort of the old

0:23:32.340,0:23:38.010
term that was used back at the early in

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the last century and all of the people

0:23:38.010,0:23:40.800
that were socialists were called fellow

0:23:39.480,0:23:43.440
travelers because they just sort of

0:23:40.800,0:23:44.910
viewed the world this way altogether and

0:23:43.440,0:23:47.280
certainly out of the Obama

0:23:44.910,0:23:49.710
administration Trudeau in Canada

0:23:47.280,0:23:52.080
mainstream in the United States CBC in

0:23:49.710,0:23:53.520
Canada essentially all the European

0:23:52.080,0:23:55.440
Union and their news reporting and all

0:23:53.520,0:23:58.080
their all these fellow travelers that

0:23:55.440,0:24:01.290
just have this this view and that puts

0:23:58.080,0:24:03.060
them in a area of sort of philosophical

0:24:01.290,0:24:04.590
agreement with a lot of what you see and

0:24:03.060,0:24:06.180
there’s been this alignment something

0:24:04.590,0:24:09.030
we’ve discussed many times between

0:24:06.180,0:24:12.390
radical Islam and the fellow travelers

0:24:09.030,0:24:14.910
the extreme left and they have so many

0:24:12.390,0:24:16.290
oh so much overlap in their perspective

0:24:14.910,0:24:18.900
in worldview and what needs to happen

0:24:16.290,0:24:20.850
then it gives them a lot of fertile

0:24:18.900,0:24:22.200
ground for cooperation and that’s what

0:24:20.850,0:24:23.480
we see in the world today that’s that

0:24:22.200,0:24:25.620
that’s the type of thing that all

0:24:23.480,0:24:25.830
responsible normal people that want to

0:24:25.620,0:24:27.539
say

0:24:25.830,0:24:29.190
world for our children and grandchildren

0:24:27.539,0:24:29.789
and Greg Greg Dan children and out into

0:24:29.190,0:24:33.000
the future

0:24:29.789,0:24:35.279
this is what we need to stop and they

0:24:33.000,0:24:36.809
there’s something I also mentioned too

0:24:35.279,0:24:38.220
often and one of the reasons I’m doing

0:24:36.809,0:24:40.919
these is because there’s there’s just

0:24:38.220,0:24:42.390
too few people that are willing to

0:24:40.919,0:24:45.110
discuss this thing factually there’s

0:24:42.390,0:24:47.580
very little actual open dialog nobody

0:24:45.110,0:24:49.649
nobody is going to actually come back

0:24:47.580,0:24:51.529
and counter the things that we’re

0:24:49.649,0:24:53.640
discussing here in an intellectual way

0:24:51.529,0:24:55.950
discussing these things well they’re

0:24:53.640,0:24:57.659
gonna do is say oh he’s a racist or he’s

0:24:55.950,0:24:59.490
an idiot or bah bah bah you know it’s

0:24:57.659,0:25:03.450
going to be a net personal attack it’s

0:24:59.490,0:25:05.130
never actual debate and then what we

0:25:03.450,0:25:07.049
need to do is just overcome them with

0:25:05.130,0:25:08.309
with these issues and just pound and

0:25:07.049,0:25:10.320
pound and pound and pound them so that

0:25:08.309,0:25:13.500
the population looks at it goes okay

0:25:10.320,0:25:15.210
yeah I you know you you may not like it

0:25:13.500,0:25:17.010
you may not agree but I’ve laid out a

0:25:15.210,0:25:19.200
cogent argument for everything I say and

0:25:17.010,0:25:21.510
you know to counter it you’ve got the

0:25:19.200,0:25:23.220
layout of cogent argument based on fact

0:25:21.510,0:25:24.809
to counter it and you’re just not going

0:25:23.220,0:25:25.730
to see it nobody does it because they’re

0:25:24.809,0:25:28.549
wrong

0:25:25.730,0:25:30.929
so it’s just what would happen and

0:25:28.549,0:25:34.590
that’s where we find ourselves but I

0:25:30.929,0:25:35.850
think since facts and truth support what

0:25:34.590,0:25:37.230
we’re doing I think we’ll went out in

0:25:35.850,0:25:41.460
the long run at least that’s mine

0:25:37.230,0:25:43.620
open prayer basic and childish

0:25:41.460,0:25:46.139
propaganda should actually be the CBC’s

0:25:43.620,0:25:47.909
model thank you very much Brad for that

0:25:46.139,0:25:49.830
insight and you know what there things

0:25:47.909,0:25:51.630
are moving fast I suspect I’ll be

0:25:49.830,0:25:54.950
talking to you before the week is thanks

0:25:51.630,0:25:54.950
again all right thank you

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