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recently a few days ago there was a
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recently a few days ago there was a
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recently a few days ago there was a
Canadian government memo saying that a
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Canadian government memo saying that a
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Canadian government memo saying that a
member of the Trudeau’s cabinet fellow
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member of the Trudeau’s cabinet fellow
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member of the Trudeau’s cabinet fellow
whose name I can’t pronounce exactly
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whose name I can’t pronounce exactly
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whose name I can’t pronounce exactly
properly but I think it’s something like
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properly but I think it’s something like
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properly but I think it’s something like
algebra or algebra he is the head of the
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algebra or algebra he is the head of the
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algebra or algebra he is the head of the
Canadian consular section for the
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Canadian consular section for the
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Canadian consular section for the
embassies in Canada and he was sent to a
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embassies in Canada and he was sent to a
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embassies in Canada and he was sent to a
meeting of the OIC Organization of
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meeting of the OIC Organization of
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meeting of the OIC Organization of
Islamic Cooperation which is happening
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Islamic Cooperation which is happening
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Islamic Cooperation which is happening
and in just this particular meetings
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and in just this particular meetings
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and in just this particular meetings
having somewhere in Africa and I will
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having somewhere in Africa and I will
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having somewhere in Africa and I will
see a quote to ivory it’s in fact it
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see a quote to ivory it’s in fact it
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see a quote to ivory it’s in fact it
said today and yesterday oh that right
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said today and yesterday oh that right
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said today and yesterday oh that right
so my question is I mean is this a
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so my question is I mean is this a
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so my question is I mean is this a
routine thing with any country just send
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routine thing with any country just send
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routine thing with any country just send
a member of their cabinet to this
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a member of their cabinet to this
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a member of their cabinet to this
meeting or I mean what does this have
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meeting or I mean what does this have
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meeting or I mean what does this have
implications because I know the OIC has
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implications because I know the OIC has
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implications because I know the OIC has
some very singularly illiberal policies
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some very singularly illiberal policies
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some very singularly illiberal policies
and agendas for instance just off the
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and agendas for instance just off the
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and agendas for instance just off the
top of my head there’s the Cairo
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top of my head there’s the Cairo
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top of my head there’s the Cairo
declaration of human rights in Islam and
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declaration of human rights in Islam and
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declaration of human rights in Islam and
there’s resolution 16/18 asking for
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there’s resolution 16/18 asking for
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there’s resolution 16/18 asking for
criminal blasphemy laws in every member
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criminal blasphemy laws in every member
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criminal blasphemy laws in every member
state of the UN so that’s just the first
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state of the UN so that’s just the first
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state of the UN so that’s just the first
two things off the top of my head so I
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two things off the top of my head so I
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two things off the top of my head so I
was wondering can maybe could you
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was wondering can maybe could you
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was wondering can maybe could you
explain why the Canadian government
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explain why the Canadian government
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explain why the Canadian government
might be studying this and what
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might be studying this and what
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might be studying this and what
implications it may have well it’s and
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implications it may have well it’s and
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implications it may have well it’s and
yes in fact something that I think we’ve
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yes in fact something that I think we’ve
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yes in fact something that I think we’ve
kind of touched on before and I think
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kind of touched on before and I think
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kind of touched on before and I think
you see it in both here in the United
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you see it in both here in the United
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you see it in both here in the United
States and in Canada where there is a
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States and in Canada where there is a
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States and in Canada where there is a
philosophically and in other ways
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philosophically and in other ways
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philosophically and in other ways
there’s a now connection or a kind of a
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there’s a now connection or a kind of a
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there’s a now connection or a kind of a
system of agreement between the left
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system of agreement between the left
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system of agreement between the left
here the left in Canada in the United
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here the left in Canada in the United
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here the left in Canada in the United
States and other countries as well along
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States and other countries as well along
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States and other countries as well along
with the Islamic extremist movement and
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with the Islamic extremist movement and
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with the Islamic extremist movement and
so there’s there’s kind of an agreement
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so there’s there’s kind of an agreement
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so there’s there’s kind of an agreement
of philosophic philosophy across the
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of philosophic philosophy across the
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of philosophic philosophy across the
board and certainly we’ve seen it in
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board and certainly we’ve seen it in
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board and certainly we’ve seen it in
Latin America with something I think
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Latin America with something I think
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Latin America with something I think
we’ve talked about before the alb of the
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we’ve talked about before the alb of the
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we’ve talked about before the alb of the
the Bolivarian Alliance which is backed
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the Bolivarian Alliance which is backed
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the Bolivarian Alliance which is backed
by Iran and and used as a front for
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by Iran and and used as a front for
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by Iran and and used as a front for
their intelligence operations so you see
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their intelligence operations so you see
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their intelligence operations so you see
there’s they’re very active on extremist
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there’s they’re very active on extremist
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there’s they’re very active on extremist
side using these organizations to
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side using these organizations to
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side using these organizations to
further their goals
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further their goals
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further their goals
therefore their intelligence purposes in
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therefore their intelligence purposes in
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therefore their intelligence purposes in
recruiting and so on and you seem to
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recruiting and so on and you seem to
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recruiting and so on and you seem to
have on the left in the United States
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have on the left in the United States
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have on the left in the United States
and Canada a willingness to play into
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and Canada a willingness to play into
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and Canada a willingness to play into
this so for that particular meeting
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this so for that particular meeting
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this so for that particular meeting
which as I mentioned is going on today
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which as I mentioned is going on today
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which as I mentioned is going on today
and yesterday the stated purpose of that
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and yesterday the stated purpose of that
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and yesterday the stated purpose of that
is to the theme of it is supposed to be
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is to the theme of it is supposed to be
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is to the theme of it is supposed to be
used peace and development in a world of
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used peace and development in a world of
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used peace and development in a world of
solidarity which that’s the speech from
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solidarity which that’s the speech from
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solidarity which that’s the speech from
the left and from Islamic world of
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the left and from Islamic world of
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the left and from Islamic world of
solidarity what does world of solitaire
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solidarity what does world of solitaire
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solidarity what does world of solitaire
mean for them and I think everyone
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mean for them and I think everyone
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mean for them and I think everyone
listening needs to understand it that
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listening needs to understand it that
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listening needs to understand it that
means their way and in you know Islamic
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means their way and in you know Islamic
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means their way and in you know Islamic
caliphate
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caliphate
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caliphate
that’s solidarity and that means that
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that’s solidarity and that means that
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that’s solidarity and that means that
for anyone like ourselves who are not
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for anyone like ourselves who are not
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for anyone like ourselves who are not
believers you have three options you
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believers you have three options you
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believers you have three options you
either are killed or you convert or they
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either are killed or you convert or they
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either are killed or you convert or they
what they call a humiliation tax which
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what they call a humiliation tax which
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what they call a humiliation tax which
there’s a whole history of that having
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there’s a whole history of that having
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there’s a whole history of that having
gone on for hundreds of years under the
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gone on for hundreds of years under the
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gone on for hundreds of years under the
under the Caliphate so it’s it’s it’s
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under the Caliphate so it’s it’s it’s
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under the Caliphate so it’s it’s it’s
their view of it and why people would go
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their view of it and why people would go
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their view of it and why people would go
to meeting like that I I would certainly
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to meeting like that I I would certainly
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to meeting like that I I would certainly
look upon with suspicion and I would be
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look upon with suspicion and I would be
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look upon with suspicion and I would be
surprised that anning Democratic
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surprised that anning Democratic
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surprised that anning Democratic
actually gets discussed in it I out of
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actually gets discussed in it I out of
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actually gets discussed in it I out of
long ago forgotten I think by everyone
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long ago forgotten I think by everyone
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long ago forgotten I think by everyone
but it was a man named Will Rogers who
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but it was a man named Will Rogers who
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but it was a man named Will Rogers who
was a an American Indian eats chair yet
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was a an American Indian eats chair yet
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was a an American Indian eats chair yet
we won’t comment that why is it that
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we won’t comment that why is it that
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we won’t comment that why is it that
every country in the world were
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every country in the world were
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every country in the world were
democratic in that in its name is not
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democratic in that in its name is not
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democratic in that in its name is not
democratic
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democratic
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democratic
that’s paraphrasing him but I think it’s
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that’s paraphrasing him but I think it’s
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that’s paraphrasing him but I think it’s
the same with these whenever you see
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the same with these whenever you see
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the same with these whenever you see
them talk about the world of solidarity
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them talk about the world of solidarity
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them talk about the world of solidarity
you’re not talking about what you and I
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you’re not talking about what you and I
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you’re not talking about what you and I
would talk about when we’re talking
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would talk about when we’re talking
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would talk about when we’re talking
about solidarity and you’re trying to
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about solidarity and you’re trying to
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about solidarity and you’re trying to
promote democratic principles and
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promote democratic principles and
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promote democratic principles and
freedom for individuals those sorts of
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freedom for individuals those sorts of
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freedom for individuals those sorts of
things they’re they’re looking for
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things they’re they’re looking for
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things they’re they’re looking for
something else and it’s unfortunate that
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something else and it’s unfortunate that
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something else and it’s unfortunate that
someone so senior would go to a meeting
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someone so senior would go to a meeting
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someone so senior would go to a meeting
like that probably anything that comes
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like that probably anything that comes
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like that probably anything that comes
out of it would have to be looked at
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out of it would have to be looked at
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out of it would have to be looked at
with a great deal of suspicion and and
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with a great deal of suspicion and and
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with a great deal of suspicion and and
unfortunately with the press being what
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unfortunately with the press being what
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unfortunately with the press being what
it is today in the United States and
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it is today in the United States and
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it is today in the United States and
Canada
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Canada
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Canada
those those sorts of things don’t get
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those those sorts of things don’t get
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those those sorts of things don’t get
reported very well so whatever he’s
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reported very well so whatever he’s
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reported very well so whatever he’s
discussed and agreed
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discussed and agreed
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discussed and agreed
there will not be scrutinised as it
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there will not be scrutinised as it
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there will not be scrutinised as it
should be under the Pross which is their
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should be under the Pross which is their
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should be under the Pross which is their
responsibility and under the First
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responsibility and under the First
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responsibility and under the First
Amendment they should be aggressively
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Amendment they should be aggressively
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Amendment they should be aggressively
out looking in these sorts of things and
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out looking in these sorts of things and
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out looking in these sorts of things and
trying to report the truth but this is
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trying to report the truth but this is
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trying to report the truth but this is
not the case in our current political
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not the case in our current political
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not the case in our current political
situation you know it’s funny you
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situation you know it’s funny you
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situation you know it’s funny you
mentioned Bolivarian that was Hugo
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mentioned Bolivarian that was Hugo
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mentioned Bolivarian that was Hugo
Chavez the great communist destroyer of
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Chavez the great communist destroyer of
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Chavez the great communist destroyer of
Venezuela that was his sort of trick
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Venezuela that was his sort of trick
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Venezuela that was his sort of trick
rhetorical trick to get people to rally
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rhetorical trick to get people to rally
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rhetorical trick to get people to rally
behind the icon of about five different
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behind the icon of about five different
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behind the icon of about five different
Latin American countries as simon
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Latin American countries as simon
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Latin American countries as simon
bolivar was a great liberator from the
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bolivar was a great liberator from the
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bolivar was a great liberator from the
spanish and and he used that word
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spanish and and he used that word
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spanish and and he used that word
Bolivarian as a way of implementing a
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Bolivarian as a way of implementing a
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Bolivarian as a way of implementing a
complete totalitarian and communist
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complete totalitarian and communist
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complete totalitarian and communist
agenda and fundamental change of their
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agenda and fundamental change of their
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agenda and fundamental change of their
society so when you say Bolivarian of
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society so when you say Bolivarian of
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society so when you say Bolivarian of
course it should raise the alarm bells
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course it should raise the alarm bells
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course it should raise the alarm bells
to anybody aware of the recent history
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to anybody aware of the recent history
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to anybody aware of the recent history
that part of the world precisely so it’s
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that part of the world precisely so it’s
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that part of the world precisely so it’s
along the same lines and that’s I mean
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along the same lines and that’s I mean
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along the same lines and that’s I mean
you can see it this is very common I
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you can see it this is very common I
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you can see it this is very common I
mean worldwide it’s been now people have
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mean worldwide it’s been now people have
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mean worldwide it’s been now people have
organized for forever I mean you you
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organized for forever I mean you you
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organized for forever I mean you you
have your your action arm which is you
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have your your action arm which is you
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have your your action arm which is you
know the the military or militia type
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know the the military or militia type
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know the the military or militia type
arm that goes out and does the shooting
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arm that goes out and does the shooting
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arm that goes out and does the shooting
and killing and so on but you also have
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and killing and so on but you also have
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and killing and so on but you also have
a political arm that is the face of your
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a political arm that is the face of your
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a political arm that is the face of your
organization and that’s what you’re
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organization and that’s what you’re
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organization and that’s what you’re
seeing with these sorts of things the
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seeing with these sorts of things the
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seeing with these sorts of things the
Bolivarian Alliance and these meetings
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Bolivarian Alliance and these meetings
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Bolivarian Alliance and these meetings
that they go to it oh I see and I’m sure
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that they go to it oh I see and I’m sure
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that they go to it oh I see and I’m sure
there are individuals who go there who
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there are individuals who go there who
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there are individuals who go there who
are normal people that aren’t interested
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are normal people that aren’t interested
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are normal people that aren’t interested
in that type of extremism but the
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in that type of extremism but the
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in that type of extremism but the
problem is it’s it’s it’s dangerous for
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problem is it’s it’s it’s dangerous for
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problem is it’s it’s it’s dangerous for
them to be against the extremism because
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them to be against the extremism because
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them to be against the extremism because
they don’t really have anyone that will
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they don’t really have anyone that will
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they don’t really have anyone that will
defend them and the extremists will go
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defend them and the extremists will go
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defend them and the extremists will go
will just kill people who opposed them
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will just kill people who opposed them
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will just kill people who opposed them
and so on I was I don’t know if I
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and so on I was I don’t know if I
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and so on I was I don’t know if I
mentioned this before what I was just
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mentioned this before what I was just
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mentioned this before what I was just
speaking with a woman who was a Muslim
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speaking with a woman who was a Muslim
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speaking with a woman who was a Muslim
in a in a store here just happened to
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in a in a store here just happened to
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in a in a store here just happened to
come across her and she’s from an area
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come across her and she’s from an area
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come across her and she’s from an area
of the world I was familiar with and I
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of the world I was familiar with and I
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of the world I was familiar with and I
started asking her some questions she
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started asking her some questions she
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started asking her some questions she
recognized quickly that I I knew the
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recognized quickly that I I knew the
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recognized quickly that I I knew the
area and understood the situation and so
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area and understood the situation and so
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area and understood the situation and so
on and and so I asked what it was like
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on and and so I asked what it was like
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on and and so I asked what it was like
here and she kind of stopped looked both
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here and she kind of stopped looked both
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here and she kind of stopped looked both
ways like this and said you know even
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ways like this and said you know even
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ways like this and said you know even
here I have to be careful what I say
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here I have to be careful what I say
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here I have to be careful what I say
and it’s it’s pervasive it’s just
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and it’s it’s pervasive it’s just
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and it’s it’s pervasive it’s just
pervasive and it’s dangerous for those
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pervasive and it’s dangerous for those
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pervasive and it’s dangerous for those
those people to resist so that’s why we
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those people to resist so that’s why we
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those people to resist so that’s why we
don’t see a lot of moderate Muslims come
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don’t see a lot of moderate Muslims come
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don’t see a lot of moderate Muslims come
up and say oh we’re against this
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up and say oh we’re against this
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up and say oh we’re against this
extremism they’re they exist they’re out
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extremism they’re they exist they’re out
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extremism they’re they exist they’re out
there but it’s dangerous for them you
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there but it’s dangerous for them you
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there but it’s dangerous for them you
see a few people who come on and you’ll
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see a few people who come on and you’ll
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see a few people who come on and you’ll
see them on news programs Fox News and
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see them on news programs Fox News and
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see them on news programs Fox News and
so on will they’ll come out and and and
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so on will they’ll come out and and and
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so on will they’ll come out and and and
and start and try to tell the truth and
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and start and try to tell the truth and
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and start and try to tell the truth and
about what’s actually going on behind
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about what’s actually going on behind
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about what’s actually going on behind
the scenes so there are some but those
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the scenes so there are some but those
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the scenes so there are some but those
are individuals you don’t see very many
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are individuals you don’t see very many
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are individuals you don’t see very many
organizations out there publicly coming
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organizations out there publicly coming
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organizations out there publicly coming
out and and decrying the violence and
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out and and decrying the violence and
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out and and decrying the violence and
and the practices they put into effect
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and the practices they put into effect
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and the practices they put into effect
and and in fact a lot of false arguments
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and and in fact a lot of false arguments
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and and in fact a lot of false arguments
are used to defend some of the extremist
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are used to defend some of the extremist
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are used to defend some of the extremist
aspects of Islam for example the stoning
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aspects of Islam for example the stoning
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aspects of Islam for example the stoning
of women and one of the defensive points
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of women and one of the defensive points
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of women and one of the defensive points
you hear a lot of people say is oh well
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you hear a lot of people say is oh well
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you hear a lot of people say is oh well
there are all types of Sharia law and
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there are all types of Sharia law and
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there are all types of Sharia law and
yes well okay there’s four types
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yes well okay there’s four types
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yes well okay there’s four types
claud’s there are the different types of
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claud’s there are the different types of
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claud’s there are the different types of
Sharia law but none of the four types
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Sharia law but none of the four types
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Sharia law but none of the four types
condemn stoning of women what they do is
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condemn stoning of women what they do is
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condemn stoning of women what they do is
they say well what size stone you can
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they say well what size stone you can
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they say well what size stone you can
use so when you hear someone come out
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use so when you hear someone come out
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use so when you hear someone come out
and say well there’s different types of
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and say well there’s different types of
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and say well there’s different types of
Sharia law yeah okay but what the
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Sharia law yeah okay but what the
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Sharia law yeah okay but what the
differences are things like the size of
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differences are things like the size of
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differences are things like the size of
stone and you kill the women men I mean
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stone and you kill the women men I mean
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stone and you kill the women men I mean
there that’s there’s no practical
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there that’s there’s no practical
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there that’s there’s no practical
difference so you people need to
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difference so you people need to
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difference so you people need to
understand that needs to be reported on
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understand that needs to be reported on
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understand that needs to be reported on
it’s one of the reasons I try to do
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it’s one of the reasons I try to do
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it’s one of the reasons I try to do
these interviews but as much information
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these interviews but as much information
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these interviews but as much information
like that as I can out to the public as
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like that as I can out to the public as
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like that as I can out to the public as
far as I know also all forms of Sharia
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far as I know also all forms of Sharia
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far as I know also all forms of Sharia
law do not include due process they do
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law do not include due process they do
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law do not include due process they do
not include the inclusion of rational
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not include the inclusion of rational
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not include the inclusion of rational
evidence to determine guilt or innocence
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evidence to determine guilt or innocence
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evidence to determine guilt or innocence
there is no presumption of innocence and
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there is no presumption of innocence and
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there is no presumption of innocence and
the nature of crimes for which there is
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the nature of crimes for which there is
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the nature of crimes for which there is
capital punishment such as being stoned
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capital punishment such as being stoned
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capital punishment such as being stoned
to death is the same in all forms of
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to death is the same in all forms of
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to death is the same in all forms of
Sharia jurisprudence so I’m not sure it
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Sharia jurisprudence so I’m not sure it
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Sharia jurisprudence so I’m not sure it
makes any difference yeah no there’s no
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makes any difference yeah no there’s no
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makes any difference yeah no there’s no
practical difference and and yeah you’re
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practical difference and and yeah you’re
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practical difference and and yeah you’re
right and by the way all those things
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right and by the way all those things
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right and by the way all those things
that you pointed it out just now I would
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that you pointed it out just now I would
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that you pointed it out just now I would
go back and Weiss well what would this
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go back and Weiss well what would this
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go back and Weiss well what would this
man from my Canada be doing a senior
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man from my Canada be doing a senior
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man from my Canada be doing a senior
official
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official
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official
and at this at these meetings that you
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and at this at these meetings that you
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and at this at these meetings that you
know as I said today yet what is he
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know as I said today yet what is he
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know as I said today yet what is he
doing there precisely what’s going to
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doing there precisely what’s going to
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doing there precisely what’s going to
come out of that what treating and exact
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come out of that what treating and exact
449
00:08:54,420 –> 00:08:56,660
come out of that what treating and exact
or arraignments in it are those going to
450
00:08:56,660 –> 00:08:56,670
or arraignments in it are those going to
451
00:08:56,670 –> 00:08:59,509
or arraignments in it are those going to
be carefully scrutinized you know will
452
00:08:59,509 –> 00:08:59,519
be carefully scrutinized you know will
453
00:08:59,519 –> 00:09:01,730
be carefully scrutinized you know will
the will the transcripts of what was
454
00:09:01,730 –> 00:09:01,740
the will the transcripts of what was
455
00:09:01,740 –> 00:09:03,259
the will the transcripts of what was
discussed be made public and that sort
456
00:09:03,259 –> 00:09:03,269
discussed be made public and that sort
457
00:09:03,269 –> 00:09:05,360
discussed be made public and that sort
of thing in a if they’re not willing to
458
00:09:05,360 –> 00:09:05,370
of thing in a if they’re not willing to
459
00:09:05,370 –> 00:09:07,220
of thing in a if they’re not willing to
allow these things to be scrutinized and
460
00:09:07,220 –> 00:09:07,230
allow these things to be scrutinized and
461
00:09:07,230 –> 00:09:08,210
allow these things to be scrutinized and
they have to be looked upon with
462
00:09:08,210 –> 00:09:08,220
they have to be looked upon with
463
00:09:08,220 –> 00:09:10,759
they have to be looked upon with
suspicion and certainly I would I would
464
00:09:10,759 –> 00:09:10,769
suspicion and certainly I would I would
465
00:09:10,769 –> 00:09:12,650
suspicion and certainly I would I would
I would be very critical the individual
466
00:09:12,650 –> 00:09:12,660
I would be very critical the individual
467
00:09:12,660 –> 00:09:13,970
I would be very critical the individual
and on I’d be very critical of the
468
00:09:13,970 –> 00:09:13,980
and on I’d be very critical of the
469
00:09:13,980 –> 00:09:16,460
and on I’d be very critical of the
minister of sent him of okay presumably
470
00:09:16,460 –> 00:09:16,470
minister of sent him of okay presumably
471
00:09:16,470 –> 00:09:17,840
minister of sent him of okay presumably
is the Minister of Foreign Affairs and
472
00:09:17,840 –> 00:09:17,850
is the Minister of Foreign Affairs and
473
00:09:17,850 –> 00:09:21,499
is the Minister of Foreign Affairs and
Canada so I would I would be very
474
00:09:21,499 –> 00:09:21,509
Canada so I would I would be very
475
00:09:21,509 –> 00:09:23,780
Canada so I would I would be very
curious as to what was going on with
476
00:09:23,780 –> 00:09:23,790
curious as to what was going on with
477
00:09:23,790 –> 00:09:26,150
curious as to what was going on with
their reasoning now to mention that one
478
00:09:26,150 –> 00:09:26,160
their reasoning now to mention that one
479
00:09:26,160 –> 00:09:27,379
their reasoning now to mention that one
of his colleagues and through those
480
00:09:27,379 –> 00:09:27,389
of his colleagues and through those
481
00:09:27,389 –> 00:09:29,840
of his colleagues and through those
cabinet managed to rammed through
482
00:09:29,840 –> 00:09:29,850
cabinet managed to rammed through
483
00:09:29,850 –> 00:09:31,999
cabinet managed to rammed through
Parliament emotion called m103
484
00:09:31,999 –> 00:09:32,009
Parliament emotion called m103
485
00:09:32,009 –> 00:09:37,189
Parliament emotion called m103
which which is in all but name an anti
486
00:09:37,189 –> 00:09:37,199
which which is in all but name an anti
487
00:09:37,199 –> 00:09:39,889
which which is in all but name an anti
blasphemy of Islam law where Islam is
488
00:09:39,889 –> 00:09:39,899
blasphemy of Islam law where Islam is
489
00:09:39,899 –> 00:09:42,679
blasphemy of Islam law where Islam is
the only religion which is specified as
490
00:09:42,679 –> 00:09:42,689
the only religion which is specified as
491
00:09:42,689 –> 00:09:46,639
the only religion which is specified as
to be to receive ultimately to receive
492
00:09:46,639 –> 00:09:46,649
to be to receive ultimately to receive
493
00:09:46,649 –> 00:09:50,150
to be to receive ultimately to receive
legal protection from criticism at the
494
00:09:50,150 –> 00:09:50,160
legal protection from criticism at the
495
00:09:50,160 –> 00:09:52,100
legal protection from criticism at the
moment it’s just a motion but the motion
496
00:09:52,100 –> 00:09:52,110
moment it’s just a motion but the motion
497
00:09:52,110 –> 00:09:54,889
moment it’s just a motion but the motion
was passed and then it becomes a study
498
00:09:54,889 –> 00:09:54,899
was passed and then it becomes a study
499
00:09:54,899 –> 00:09:56,480
was passed and then it becomes a study
and then after it’s a study it’ll become
500
00:09:56,480 –> 00:09:56,490
and then after it’s a study it’ll become
501
00:09:56,490 –> 00:10:00,019
and then after it’s a study it’ll become
a law and that’s this very similar to
502
00:10:00,019 –> 00:10:00,029
a law and that’s this very similar to
503
00:10:00,029 –> 00:10:03,049
a law and that’s this very similar to
what UN resolution 16/18
504
00:10:03,049 –> 00:10:03,059
what UN resolution 16/18
505
00:10:03,059 –> 00:10:06,019
what UN resolution 16/18
as instigated by the OIC was asking
506
00:10:06,019 –> 00:10:06,029
as instigated by the OIC was asking
507
00:10:06,029 –> 00:10:09,499
as instigated by the OIC was asking
Member States to do is it not yeah yeah
508
00:10:09,499 –> 00:10:09,509
Member States to do is it not yeah yeah
509
00:10:09,509 –> 00:10:11,090
Member States to do is it not yeah yeah
that’s headed down an extraordinarily
510
00:10:11,090 –> 00:10:11,100
that’s headed down an extraordinarily
511
00:10:11,100 –> 00:10:14,299
that’s headed down an extraordinarily
dangerous road and that’s I think that’s
512
00:10:14,299 –> 00:10:14,309
dangerous road and that’s I think that’s
513
00:10:14,309 –> 00:10:16,910
dangerous road and that’s I think that’s
precisely what we see happening in with
514
00:10:16,910 –> 00:10:16,920
precisely what we see happening in with
515
00:10:16,920 –> 00:10:18,499
precisely what we see happening in with
all of the attacks going on in England
516
00:10:18,499 –> 00:10:18,509
all of the attacks going on in England
517
00:10:18,509 –> 00:10:21,049
all of the attacks going on in England
and around London and Manchester a lot
518
00:10:21,049 –> 00:10:21,059
and around London and Manchester a lot
519
00:10:21,059 –> 00:10:23,509
and around London and Manchester a lot
of those areas those sorts of laws were
520
00:10:23,509 –> 00:10:23,519
of those areas those sorts of laws were
521
00:10:23,519 –> 00:10:27,470
of those areas those sorts of laws were
were passed and representatives from the
522
00:10:27,470 –> 00:10:27,480
were passed and representatives from the
523
00:10:27,480 –> 00:10:29,569
were passed and representatives from the
Islamic community there were getting
524
00:10:29,569 –> 00:10:29,579
Islamic community there were getting
525
00:10:29,579 –> 00:10:30,980
Islamic community there were getting
elected but the problem is they weren’t
526
00:10:30,980 –> 00:10:30,990
elected but the problem is they weren’t
527
00:10:30,990 –> 00:10:32,540
elected but the problem is they weren’t
the right people being elected they were
528
00:10:32,540 –> 00:10:32,550
the right people being elected they were
529
00:10:32,550 –> 00:10:34,999
the right people being elected they were
out of the extremist movement and so
530
00:10:34,999 –> 00:10:35,009
out of the extremist movement and so
531
00:10:35,009 –> 00:10:37,340
out of the extremist movement and so
very defensive of them and now you have
532
00:10:37,340 –> 00:10:37,350
very defensive of them and now you have
533
00:10:37,350 –> 00:10:41,780
very defensive of them and now you have
a lot of Sharia Courts and they’ve you
534
00:10:41,780 –> 00:10:41,790
a lot of Sharia Courts and they’ve you
535
00:10:41,790 –> 00:10:43,489
a lot of Sharia Courts and they’ve you
know this may just in that area there’s
536
00:10:43,489 –> 00:10:43,499
know this may just in that area there’s
537
00:10:43,499 –> 00:10:46,970
know this may just in that area there’s
84 Sharia Courts and Manchester has is
538
00:10:46,970 –> 00:10:46,980
84 Sharia Courts and Manchester has is
539
00:10:46,980 –> 00:10:51,559
84 Sharia Courts and Manchester has is
areas under Sharia law and under the
540
00:10:51,559 –> 00:10:51,569
areas under Sharia law and under the
541
00:10:51,569 –> 00:10:54,139
areas under Sharia law and under the
Sharia Courts and so the British
542
00:10:54,139 –> 00:10:54,149
Sharia Courts and so the British
543
00:10:54,149 –> 00:10:56,030
Sharia Courts and so the British
officials you know don’t now go in there
544
00:10:56,030 –> 00:10:56,040
officials you know don’t now go in there
545
00:10:56,040 –> 00:10:57,350
officials you know don’t now go in there
the police of the win there
546
00:10:57,350 –> 00:10:57,360
the police of the win there
547
00:10:57,360 –> 00:10:58,560
the police of the win there
they let them
548
00:10:58,560 –> 00:10:58,570
they let them
549
00:10:58,570 –> 00:11:01,650
they let them
you know rule themselves and so now
550
00:11:01,650 –> 00:11:01,660
you know rule themselves and so now
551
00:11:01,660 –> 00:11:04,310
you know rule themselves and so now
you’ve seen Manchester be a hotbed of
552
00:11:04,310 –> 00:11:04,320
you’ve seen Manchester be a hotbed of
553
00:11:04,320 –> 00:11:05,940
you’ve seen Manchester be a hotbed of
activity where they’re killing people
554
00:11:05,940 –> 00:11:05,950
activity where they’re killing people
555
00:11:05,950 –> 00:11:08,460
activity where they’re killing people
all the time and a lot of it is centred
556
00:11:08,460 –> 00:11:08,470
all the time and a lot of it is centred
557
00:11:08,470 –> 00:11:10,590
all the time and a lot of it is centred
in Manchester because of the way they’ve
558
00:11:10,590 –> 00:11:10,600
in Manchester because of the way they’ve
559
00:11:10,600 –> 00:11:11,940
in Manchester because of the way they’ve
put down roots and set up their own
560
00:11:11,940 –> 00:11:11,950
put down roots and set up their own
561
00:11:11,950 –> 00:11:13,530
put down roots and set up their own
community involves and all that sort of
562
00:11:13,530 –> 00:11:13,540
community involves and all that sort of
563
00:11:13,540 –> 00:11:15,720
community involves and all that sort of
stuff and then extremism is allowed to
564
00:11:15,720 –> 00:11:15,730
stuff and then extremism is allowed to
565
00:11:15,730 –> 00:11:18,420
stuff and then extremism is allowed to
grow and become a cancer within the
566
00:11:18,420 –> 00:11:18,430
grow and become a cancer within the
567
00:11:18,430 –> 00:11:19,860
grow and become a cancer within the
society and that’s what you see
568
00:11:19,860 –> 00:11:19,870
society and that’s what you see
569
00:11:19,870 –> 00:11:22,080
society and that’s what you see
happening precisely now in England and
570
00:11:22,080 –> 00:11:22,090
happening precisely now in England and
571
00:11:22,090 –> 00:11:23,640
happening precisely now in England and
that’s what you’re going to see in
572
00:11:23,640 –> 00:11:23,650
that’s what you’re going to see in
573
00:11:23,650 –> 00:11:24,870
that’s what you’re going to see in
Canada if they continue down that road
574
00:11:24,870 –> 00:11:24,880
Canada if they continue down that road
575
00:11:24,880 –> 00:11:26,700
Canada if they continue down that road
and pass those laws they’ll start
576
00:11:26,700 –> 00:11:26,710
and pass those laws they’ll start
577
00:11:26,710 –> 00:11:28,080
and pass those laws they’ll start
setting up communities you’ll see them
578
00:11:28,080 –> 00:11:28,090
setting up communities you’ll see them
579
00:11:28,090 –> 00:11:29,310
setting up communities you’ll see them
come under Sharia law
580
00:11:29,310 –> 00:11:29,320
come under Sharia law
581
00:11:29,320 –> 00:11:31,710
come under Sharia law
they’ll have Sharia Courts all that sort
582
00:11:31,710 –> 00:11:31,720
they’ll have Sharia Courts all that sort
583
00:11:31,720 –> 00:11:33,720
they’ll have Sharia Courts all that sort
of stuff and then the local officials in
584
00:11:33,720 –> 00:11:33,730
of stuff and then the local officials in
585
00:11:33,730 –> 00:11:35,760
of stuff and then the local officials in
that area the police law enforcement
586
00:11:35,760 –> 00:11:35,770
that area the police law enforcement
587
00:11:35,770 –> 00:11:38,100
that area the police law enforcement
officers Canadian won’t be able to go
588
00:11:38,100 –> 00:11:38,110
officers Canadian won’t be able to go
589
00:11:38,110 –> 00:11:39,960
officers Canadian won’t be able to go
into those areas and enforce Canadian
590
00:11:39,960 –> 00:11:39,970
into those areas and enforce Canadian
591
00:11:39,970 –> 00:11:43,200
into those areas and enforce Canadian
law so you know you’ll start down the
592
00:11:43,200 –> 00:11:43,210
law so you know you’ll start down the
593
00:11:43,210 –> 00:11:44,520
law so you know you’ll start down the
same road and start having the similar
594
00:11:44,520 –> 00:11:44,530
same road and start having the similar
595
00:11:44,530 –> 00:11:47,760
same road and start having the similar
problems in Canada and conversely going
596
00:11:47,760 –> 00:11:47,770
problems in Canada and conversely going
597
00:11:47,770 –> 00:11:50,370
problems in Canada and conversely going
back the countries who have not allowed
598
00:11:50,370 –> 00:11:50,380
back the countries who have not allowed
599
00:11:50,380 –> 00:11:55,290
back the countries who have not allowed
refugees and inside their settle are the
600
00:11:55,290 –> 00:11:55,300
refugees and inside their settle are the
601
00:11:55,300 –> 00:11:57,000
refugees and inside their settle are the
very countries in Europe that are not
602
00:11:57,000 –> 00:11:57,010
very countries in Europe that are not
603
00:11:57,010 –> 00:11:58,620
very countries in Europe that are not
getting attacked all the other countries
604
00:11:58,620 –> 00:11:58,630
getting attacked all the other countries
605
00:11:58,630 –> 00:12:00,150
getting attacked all the other countries
get attacked the ones who don’t accept
606
00:12:00,150 –> 00:12:00,160
get attacked the ones who don’t accept
607
00:12:00,160 –> 00:12:02,070
get attacked the ones who don’t accept
them don’t allow these areas to be set
608
00:12:02,070 –> 00:12:02,080
them don’t allow these areas to be set
609
00:12:02,080 –> 00:12:04,050
them don’t allow these areas to be set
up don’t get attacked so I mean it’s
610
00:12:04,050 –> 00:12:04,060
up don’t get attacked so I mean it’s
611
00:12:04,060 –> 00:12:05,850
up don’t get attacked so I mean it’s
just it’s clear fact you can’t go
612
00:12:05,850 –> 00:12:05,860
just it’s clear fact you can’t go
613
00:12:05,860 –> 00:12:07,260
just it’s clear fact you can’t go
through the facts look at what’s going
614
00:12:07,260 –> 00:12:07,270
through the facts look at what’s going
615
00:12:07,270 –> 00:12:09,480
through the facts look at what’s going
on and not recognize it as a problem but
616
00:12:09,480 –> 00:12:09,490
on and not recognize it as a problem but
617
00:12:09,490 –> 00:12:11,190
on and not recognize it as a problem but
as I said it’s just not being reported
618
00:12:11,190 –> 00:12:11,200
as I said it’s just not being reported
619
00:12:11,200 –> 00:12:13,410
as I said it’s just not being reported
on that way no one wants to face up to
620
00:12:13,410 –> 00:12:13,420
on that way no one wants to face up to
621
00:12:13,420 –> 00:12:15,060
on that way no one wants to face up to
it because that’s would be considered
622
00:12:15,060 –> 00:12:15,070
it because that’s would be considered
623
00:12:15,070 –> 00:12:18,450
it because that’s would be considered
racism and so on actually to speak of
624
00:12:18,450 –> 00:12:18,460
racism and so on actually to speak of
625
00:12:18,460 –> 00:12:21,000
racism and so on actually to speak of
these things realistically you know
626
00:12:21,000 –> 00:12:21,010
these things realistically you know
627
00:12:21,010 –> 00:12:22,560
these things realistically you know
whilst time we spoke you mentioned that
628
00:12:22,560 –> 00:12:22,570
whilst time we spoke you mentioned that
629
00:12:22,570 –> 00:12:24,500
whilst time we spoke you mentioned that
there had been a recent edition of an
630
00:12:24,500 –> 00:12:24,510
there had been a recent edition of an
631
00:12:24,510 –> 00:12:27,120
there had been a recent edition of an
Islamic state magazine called Rumia I
632
00:12:27,120 –> 00:12:27,130
Islamic state magazine called Rumia I
633
00:12:27,130 –> 00:12:29,010
Islamic state magazine called Rumia I
think or right and you mentioned there
634
00:12:29,010 –> 00:12:29,020
think or right and you mentioned there
635
00:12:29,020 –> 00:12:31,020
think or right and you mentioned there
was a new tactic which was quite
636
00:12:31,020 –> 00:12:31,030
was a new tactic which was quite
637
00:12:31,030 –> 00:12:33,330
was a new tactic which was quite
horrifying that they had planned or that
638
00:12:33,330 –> 00:12:33,340
horrifying that they had planned or that
639
00:12:33,340 –> 00:12:34,890
horrifying that they had planned or that
they’d requested that people start to do
640
00:12:34,890 –> 00:12:34,900
they’d requested that people start to do
641
00:12:34,900 –> 00:12:36,570
they’d requested that people start to do
since then there’s been even a newer
642
00:12:36,570 –> 00:12:36,580
since then there’s been even a newer
643
00:12:36,580 –> 00:12:39,690
since then there’s been even a newer
edition of Rumi advocates issue 9 are
644
00:12:39,690 –> 00:12:39,700
edition of Rumi advocates issue 9 are
645
00:12:39,700 –> 00:12:44,490
edition of Rumi advocates issue 9 are
you aware of it yes yes vol 9 you saying
646
00:12:44,490 –> 00:12:44,500
you aware of it yes yes vol 9 you saying
647
00:12:44,500 –> 00:12:46,890
you aware of it yes yes vol 9 you saying
I just talked I could be I could be
648
00:12:46,890 –> 00:12:46,900
I just talked I could be I could be
649
00:12:46,900 –> 00:12:48,570
I just talked I could be I could be
mistaken about the number but I know
650
00:12:48,570 –> 00:12:48,580
mistaken about the number but I know
651
00:12:48,580 –> 00:12:50,190
mistaken about the number but I know
that they’re a new issue I was wondering
652
00:12:50,190 –> 00:12:50,200
that they’re a new issue I was wondering
653
00:12:50,200 –> 00:12:51,990
that they’re a new issue I was wondering
if there’s any in it anything in that
654
00:12:51,990 –> 00:12:52,000
if there’s any in it anything in that
655
00:12:52,000 –> 00:12:54,750
if there’s any in it anything in that
new issue that was worth bringing to
656
00:12:54,750 –> 00:12:54,760
new issue that was worth bringing to
657
00:12:54,760 –> 00:12:58,560
new issue that was worth bringing to
people’s attention yes absolutely I have
658
00:12:58,560 –> 00:12:58,570
people’s attention yes absolutely I have
659
00:12:58,570 –> 00:13:01,920
people’s attention yes absolutely I have
right here this is this is volume 9 to
660
00:13:01,920 –> 00:13:01,930
right here this is this is volume 9 to
661
00:13:01,930 –> 00:13:04,020
right here this is this is volume 9 to
me right here and yes there’s a great
662
00:13:04,020 –> 00:13:04,030
me right here and yes there’s a great
663
00:13:04,030 –> 00:13:07,520
me right here and yes there’s a great
deal we we spoke last time about some of
664
00:13:07,520 –> 00:13:07,530
deal we we spoke last time about some of
665
00:13:07,530 –> 00:13:09,900
deal we we spoke last time about some of
their in there and talking about how
666
00:13:09,900 –> 00:13:09,910
their in there and talking about how
667
00:13:09,910 –> 00:13:11,610
their in there and talking about how
lone wolf attacks are organized and the
668
00:13:11,610 –> 00:13:11,620
lone wolf attacks are organized and the
669
00:13:11,620 –> 00:13:12,180
lone wolf attacks are organized and the
instructions
670
00:13:12,180 –> 00:13:12,190
instructions
671
00:13:12,190 –> 00:13:14,790
instructions
in there for attacking people and so on
672
00:13:14,790 –> 00:13:14,800
in there for attacking people and so on
673
00:13:14,800 –> 00:13:18,840
in there for attacking people and so on
it goes into just gruesome detail of how
674
00:13:18,840 –> 00:13:18,850
it goes into just gruesome detail of how
675
00:13:18,850 –> 00:13:21,300
it goes into just gruesome detail of how
to slaughter people by suckering em in
676
00:13:21,300 –> 00:13:21,310
to slaughter people by suckering em in
677
00:13:21,310 –> 00:13:24,810
to slaughter people by suckering em in
for like a job interview or to view an
678
00:13:24,810 –> 00:13:24,820
for like a job interview or to view an
679
00:13:24,820 –> 00:13:26,490
for like a job interview or to view an
apartment for rent and those sorts of
680
00:13:26,490 –> 00:13:26,500
apartment for rent and those sorts of
681
00:13:26,500 –> 00:13:28,230
apartment for rent and those sorts of
things just set up a slaughterhouse
682
00:13:28,230 –> 00:13:28,240
things just set up a slaughterhouse
683
00:13:28,240 –> 00:13:29,790
things just set up a slaughterhouse
where you have people show up every half
684
00:13:29,790 –> 00:13:29,800
where you have people show up every half
685
00:13:29,800 –> 00:13:31,740
where you have people show up every half
hour every hour kill them as they come
686
00:13:31,740 –> 00:13:31,750
hour every hour kill them as they come
687
00:13:31,750 –> 00:13:33,300
hour every hour kill them as they come
in and hide the bodies wait for the next
688
00:13:33,300 –> 00:13:33,310
in and hide the bodies wait for the next
689
00:13:33,310 –> 00:13:34,950
in and hide the bodies wait for the next
group to come in and so on and it goes
690
00:13:34,950 –> 00:13:34,960
group to come in and so on and it goes
691
00:13:34,960 –> 00:13:36,480
group to come in and so on and it goes
into a great deal of detail about the
692
00:13:36,480 –> 00:13:36,490
into a great deal of detail about the
693
00:13:36,490 –> 00:13:38,490
into a great deal of detail about the
trucks how to run people over and so on
694
00:13:38,490 –> 00:13:38,500
trucks how to run people over and so on
695
00:13:38,500 –> 00:13:41,880
trucks how to run people over and so on
now interestingly out of that this is
696
00:13:41,880 –> 00:13:41,890
now interestingly out of that this is
697
00:13:41,890 –> 00:13:43,800
now interestingly out of that this is
one of the things I want to dimension to
698
00:13:43,800 –> 00:13:43,810
one of the things I want to dimension to
699
00:13:43,810 –> 00:13:48,120
one of the things I want to dimension to
is that those those insurgents have come
700
00:13:48,120 –> 00:13:48,130
is that those those insurgents have come
701
00:13:48,130 –> 00:13:49,500
is that those those insurgents have come
out there originally done in Arabic
702
00:13:49,500 –> 00:13:49,510
out there originally done in Arabic
703
00:13:49,510 –> 00:13:51,480
out there originally done in Arabic
they’re translated into the copy I have
704
00:13:51,480 –> 00:13:51,490
they’re translated into the copy I have
705
00:13:51,490 –> 00:13:53,820
they’re translated into the copy I have
is in English that I just showed you but
706
00:13:53,820 –> 00:13:53,830
is in English that I just showed you but
707
00:13:53,830 –> 00:13:56,400
is in English that I just showed you but
it’s put out and Bank you know like 20
708
00:13:56,400 –> 00:13:56,410
it’s put out and Bank you know like 20
709
00:13:56,410 –> 00:13:58,590
it’s put out and Bank you know like 20
or 25 languages something like that all
710
00:13:58,590 –> 00:13:58,600
or 25 languages something like that all
711
00:13:58,600 –> 00:14:01,560
or 25 languages something like that all
over the world and any of the people who
712
00:14:01,560 –> 00:14:01,570
over the world and any of the people who
713
00:14:01,570 –> 00:14:03,390
over the world and any of the people who
have been viewing these interviews these
714
00:14:03,390 –> 00:14:03,400
have been viewing these interviews these
715
00:14:03,400 –> 00:14:04,650
have been viewing these interviews these
series of interviews that we’ve been
716
00:14:04,650 –> 00:14:04,660
series of interviews that we’ve been
717
00:14:04,660 –> 00:14:06,840
series of interviews that we’ve been
doing was aware of these sorts of things
718
00:14:06,840 –> 00:14:06,850
doing was aware of these sorts of things
719
00:14:06,850 –> 00:14:08,520
doing was aware of these sorts of things
being put out and the fallacy behind
720
00:14:08,520 –> 00:14:08,530
being put out and the fallacy behind
721
00:14:08,530 –> 00:14:10,770
being put out and the fallacy behind
lone wolf and so on interestingly enough
722
00:14:10,770 –> 00:14:10,780
lone wolf and so on interestingly enough
723
00:14:10,780 –> 00:14:13,380
lone wolf and so on interestingly enough
yesterday the Washington Times came out
724
00:14:13,380 –> 00:14:13,390
yesterday the Washington Times came out
725
00:14:13,390 –> 00:14:16,830
yesterday the Washington Times came out
with an article and they got a hold of a
726
00:14:16,830 –> 00:14:16,840
with an article and they got a hold of a
727
00:14:16,840 –> 00:14:18,900
with an article and they got a hold of a
what they call a first of a kind lone
728
00:14:18,900 –> 00:14:18,910
what they call a first of a kind lone
729
00:14:18,910 –> 00:14:21,000
what they call a first of a kind lone
wolf Handbook which they’re completely
730
00:14:21,000 –> 00:14:21,010
wolf Handbook which they’re completely
731
00:14:21,010 –> 00:14:22,680
wolf Handbook which they’re completely
wrong and anyone as I said he’s been
732
00:14:22,680 –> 00:14:22,690
wrong and anyone as I said he’s been
733
00:14:22,690 –> 00:14:24,570
wrong and anyone as I said he’s been
watching these interviews that we’ve
734
00:14:24,570 –> 00:14:24,580
watching these interviews that we’ve
735
00:14:24,580 –> 00:14:26,640
watching these interviews that we’ve
done it’s better informed in The
736
00:14:26,640 –> 00:14:26,650
done it’s better informed in The
737
00:14:26,650 –> 00:14:28,290
done it’s better informed in The
Washington Times because they’ve seen
738
00:14:28,290 –> 00:14:28,300
Washington Times because they’ve seen
739
00:14:28,300 –> 00:14:30,000
Washington Times because they’ve seen
them but they mentioned one that came
740
00:14:30,000 –> 00:14:30,010
them but they mentioned one that came
741
00:14:30,010 –> 00:14:33,180
them but they mentioned one that came
out about a 66 page manual with 174
742
00:14:33,180 –> 00:14:33,190
out about a 66 page manual with 174
743
00:14:33,190 –> 00:14:35,550
out about a 66 page manual with 174
instalay illustrations and seven charts
744
00:14:35,550 –> 00:14:35,560
instalay illustrations and seven charts
745
00:14:35,560 –> 00:14:39,930
instalay illustrations and seven charts
and so on and which is open portions of
746
00:14:39,930 –> 00:14:39,940
and so on and which is open portions of
747
00:14:39,940 –> 00:14:42,660
and so on and which is open portions of
this are drawn from the reveal vol 9
748
00:14:42,660 –> 00:14:42,670
this are drawn from the reveal vol 9
749
00:14:42,670 –> 00:14:44,280
this are drawn from the reveal vol 9
where they’re talking about how to do
750
00:14:44,280 –> 00:14:44,290
where they’re talking about how to do
751
00:14:44,290 –> 00:14:45,990
where they’re talking about how to do
these brutal attacks and kill people in
752
00:14:45,990 –> 00:14:46,000
these brutal attacks and kill people in
753
00:14:46,000 –> 00:14:47,820
these brutal attacks and kill people in
the truck they go into great detail
754
00:14:47,820 –> 00:14:47,830
the truck they go into great detail
755
00:14:47,830 –> 00:14:50,250
the truck they go into great detail
about how to build bombs and other
756
00:14:50,250 –> 00:14:50,260
about how to build bombs and other
757
00:14:50,260 –> 00:14:52,950
about how to build bombs and other
tactics to use like for example starting
758
00:14:52,950 –> 00:14:52,960
tactics to use like for example starting
759
00:14:52,960 –> 00:14:56,040
tactics to use like for example starting
forest fires in areas near a lot of
760
00:14:56,040 –> 00:14:56,050
forest fires in areas near a lot of
761
00:14:56,050 –> 00:14:57,990
forest fires in areas near a lot of
housing and so on to have these huge
762
00:14:57,990 –> 00:14:58,000
housing and so on to have these huge
763
00:14:58,000 –> 00:15:00,930
housing and so on to have these huge
fires that absorb only all of the
764
00:15:00,930 –> 00:15:00,940
fires that absorb only all of the
765
00:15:00,940 –> 00:15:03,000
fires that absorb only all of the
resources for you know law enforcement
766
00:15:03,000 –> 00:15:03,010
resources for you know law enforcement
767
00:15:03,010 –> 00:15:06,180
resources for you know law enforcement
and and firefighters and so on it
768
00:15:06,180 –> 00:15:06,190
and and firefighters and so on it
769
00:15:06,190 –> 00:15:09,360
and and firefighters and so on it
absorbs all those resources and spends a
770
00:15:09,360 –> 00:15:09,370
absorbs all those resources and spends a
771
00:15:09,370 –> 00:15:11,040
absorbs all those resources and spends a
lot of money is very damaging to the
772
00:15:11,040 –> 00:15:11,050
lot of money is very damaging to the
773
00:15:11,050 –> 00:15:13,260
lot of money is very damaging to the
economy damaging to the people and all
774
00:15:13,260 –> 00:15:13,270
economy damaging to the people and all
775
00:15:13,270 –> 00:15:14,790
economy damaging to the people and all
of that sort of stuff and if people
776
00:15:14,790 –> 00:15:14,800
of that sort of stuff and if people
777
00:15:14,800 –> 00:15:17,670
of that sort of stuff and if people
figure out that it’s a arson in part of
778
00:15:17,670 –> 00:15:17,680
figure out that it’s a arson in part of
779
00:15:17,680 –> 00:15:20,820
figure out that it’s a arson in part of
a Islamic attack you look bites it
780
00:15:20,820 –> 00:15:20,830
a Islamic attack you look bites it
781
00:15:20,830 –> 00:15:23,430
a Islamic attack you look bites it
reached air within the shooters so they
782
00:15:23,430 –> 00:15:23,440
reached air within the shooters so they
783
00:15:23,440 –> 00:15:25,810
reached air within the shooters so they
go into a great deal of detail in
784
00:15:25,810 –> 00:15:25,820
go into a great deal of detail in
785
00:15:25,820 –> 00:15:28,180
go into a great deal of detail in
via this latest issue and then also in
786
00:15:28,180 –> 00:15:28,190
via this latest issue and then also in
787
00:15:28,190 –> 00:15:30,070
via this latest issue and then also in
this latest one that came out that the
788
00:15:30,070 –> 00:15:30,080
this latest one that came out that the
789
00:15:30,080 –> 00:15:34,290
this latest one that came out that the
Washington Times came across that is
790
00:15:34,290 –> 00:15:34,300
Washington Times came across that is
791
00:15:34,300 –> 00:15:37,240
Washington Times came across that is
written in Turkish and like I said they
792
00:15:37,240 –> 00:15:37,250
written in Turkish and like I said they
793
00:15:37,250 –> 00:15:38,830
written in Turkish and like I said they
caught the first of a kind but it’s not
794
00:15:38,830 –> 00:15:38,840
caught the first of a kind but it’s not
795
00:15:38,840 –> 00:15:40,390
caught the first of a kind but it’s not
these are these are things that have
796
00:15:40,390 –> 00:15:40,400
these are these are things that have
797
00:15:40,400 –> 00:15:42,130
these are these are things that have
been out for a while as I said anyone
798
00:15:42,130 –> 00:15:42,140
been out for a while as I said anyone
799
00:15:42,140 –> 00:15:43,780
been out for a while as I said anyone
having viewed our previous interviews
800
00:15:43,780 –> 00:15:43,790
having viewed our previous interviews
801
00:15:43,790 –> 00:15:46,360
having viewed our previous interviews
would will be better informed than The
802
00:15:46,360 –> 00:15:46,370
would will be better informed than The
803
00:15:46,370 –> 00:15:48,070
would will be better informed than The
Washington Times but one thing that’s
804
00:15:48,070 –> 00:15:48,080
Washington Times but one thing that’s
805
00:15:48,080 –> 00:15:49,840
Washington Times but one thing that’s
very interesting out of that and also
806
00:15:49,840 –> 00:15:49,850
very interesting out of that and also
807
00:15:49,850 –> 00:15:51,160
very interesting out of that and also
something that you and I have discussed
808
00:15:51,160 –> 00:15:51,170
something that you and I have discussed
809
00:15:51,170 –> 00:15:53,800
something that you and I have discussed
before specifically is I’ve mentioned
810
00:15:53,800 –> 00:15:53,810
before specifically is I’ve mentioned
811
00:15:53,810 –> 00:15:56,710
before specifically is I’ve mentioned
the encrypted chat rooms in telegram
812
00:15:56,710 –> 00:15:56,720
the encrypted chat rooms in telegram
813
00:15:56,720 –> 00:15:58,540
the encrypted chat rooms in telegram
which is the the instant messaging
814
00:15:58,540 –> 00:15:58,550
which is the the instant messaging
815
00:15:58,550 –> 00:16:01,030
which is the the instant messaging
service and they have all of the public
816
00:16:01,030 –> 00:16:01,040
service and they have all of the public
817
00:16:01,040 –> 00:16:02,740
service and they have all of the public
channels in there that they’ll not what
818
00:16:02,740 –> 00:16:02,750
channels in there that they’ll not what
819
00:16:02,750 –> 00:16:03,010
channels in there that they’ll not what
it
820
00:16:03,010 –> 00:16:03,020
it
821
00:16:03,020 –> 00:16:06,430
it
I think 78 public channels and telegram
822
00:16:06,430 –> 00:16:06,440
I think 78 public channels and telegram
823
00:16:06,440 –> 00:16:08,320
I think 78 public channels and telegram
something along those lines and this
824
00:16:08,320 –> 00:16:08,330
something along those lines and this
825
00:16:08,330 –> 00:16:10,200
something along those lines and this
latest manual that came out in Turkish
826
00:16:10,200 –> 00:16:10,210
latest manual that came out in Turkish
827
00:16:10,210 –> 00:16:13,360
latest manual that came out in Turkish
was put out published through telegram
828
00:16:13,360 –> 00:16:13,370
was put out published through telegram
829
00:16:13,370 –> 00:16:15,730
was put out published through telegram
so I mean it’s the same thing you and I
830
00:16:15,730 –> 00:16:15,740
so I mean it’s the same thing you and I
831
00:16:15,740 –> 00:16:17,080
so I mean it’s the same thing you and I
in fact have been talking about for
832
00:16:17,080 –> 00:16:17,090
in fact have been talking about for
833
00:16:17,090 –> 00:16:19,080
in fact have been talking about for
quite a little while that that is now
834
00:16:19,080 –> 00:16:19,090
quite a little while that that is now
835
00:16:19,090 –> 00:16:21,910
quite a little while that that is now
starting to hit the media the mainstream
836
00:16:21,910 –> 00:16:21,920
starting to hit the media the mainstream
837
00:16:21,920 –> 00:16:23,890
starting to hit the media the mainstream
media in Washington times and so on
838
00:16:23,890 –> 00:16:23,900
media in Washington times and so on
839
00:16:23,900 –> 00:16:28,990
media in Washington times and so on
which almost certainly is as a result of
840
00:16:28,990 –> 00:16:29,000
which almost certainly is as a result of
841
00:16:29,000 –> 00:16:30,280
which almost certainly is as a result of
these types of interviews that I’ve been
842
00:16:30,280 –> 00:16:30,290
these types of interviews that I’ve been
843
00:16:30,290 –> 00:16:32,080
these types of interviews that I’ve been
doing trying to get this information out
844
00:16:32,080 –> 00:16:32,090
doing trying to get this information out
845
00:16:32,090 –> 00:16:33,520
doing trying to get this information out
into the public arena and make people
846
00:16:33,520 –> 00:16:33,530
into the public arena and make people
847
00:16:33,530 –> 00:16:35,290
into the public arena and make people
aware it’s very important that everyone
848
00:16:35,290 –> 00:16:35,300
aware it’s very important that everyone
849
00:16:35,300 –> 00:16:38,800
aware it’s very important that everyone
understand what things are and what the
850
00:16:38,800 –> 00:16:38,810
understand what things are and what the
851
00:16:38,810 –> 00:16:40,300
understand what things are and what the
things are that we need to be careful of
852
00:16:40,300 –> 00:16:40,310
things are that we need to be careful of
853
00:16:40,310 –> 00:16:42,580
things are that we need to be careful of
and how to protect our own lives and so
854
00:16:42,580 –> 00:16:42,590
and how to protect our own lives and so
855
00:16:42,590 –> 00:16:44,500
and how to protect our own lives and so
on because then we’ll demand of our
856
00:16:44,500 –> 00:16:44,510
on because then we’ll demand of our
857
00:16:44,510 –> 00:16:46,390
on because then we’ll demand of our
public officials that they get out and
858
00:16:46,390 –> 00:16:46,400
public officials that they get out and
859
00:16:46,400 –> 00:16:48,100
public officials that they get out and
do what needs to be done instead of
860
00:16:48,100 –> 00:16:48,110
do what needs to be done instead of
861
00:16:48,110 –> 00:16:50,050
do what needs to be done instead of
fighting and not discussing these things
862
00:16:50,050 –> 00:16:50,060
fighting and not discussing these things
863
00:16:50,060 –> 00:16:52,720
fighting and not discussing these things
publicly so it raises the awareness of
864
00:16:52,720 –> 00:16:52,730
publicly so it raises the awareness of
865
00:16:52,730 –> 00:16:54,520
publicly so it raises the awareness of
the make of the public Canada and
866
00:16:54,520 –> 00:16:54,530
the make of the public Canada and
867
00:16:54,530 –> 00:16:57,100
the make of the public Canada and
America and United States specifically
868
00:16:57,100 –> 00:16:57,110
America and United States specifically
869
00:16:57,110 –> 00:17:00,100
America and United States specifically
and and it will help us all demand of
870
00:17:00,100 –> 00:17:00,110
and and it will help us all demand of
871
00:17:00,110 –> 00:17:02,590
and and it will help us all demand of
our leaders that they take the actual
872
00:17:02,590 –> 00:17:02,600
our leaders that they take the actual
873
00:17:02,600 –> 00:17:04,780
our leaders that they take the actual
steps that are needed to make us safe
874
00:17:04,780 –> 00:17:04,790
steps that are needed to make us safe
875
00:17:04,790 –> 00:17:08,200
steps that are needed to make us safe
rather than you know the obvious ways
876
00:17:08,200 –> 00:17:08,210
rather than you know the obvious ways
877
00:17:08,210 –> 00:17:11,710
rather than you know the obvious ways
will happen the whole time which is you
878
00:17:11,710 –> 00:17:11,720
will happen the whole time which is you
879
00:17:11,720 –> 00:17:12,640
will happen the whole time which is you
know it’s funny you should mention
880
00:17:12,640 –> 00:17:12,650
know it’s funny you should mention
881
00:17:12,650 –> 00:17:15,100
know it’s funny you should mention
flyers there seems to have be there
882
00:17:15,100 –> 00:17:15,110
flyers there seems to have be there
883
00:17:15,110 –> 00:17:16,900
flyers there seems to have be there
seems to be an unusually high frequency
884
00:17:16,900 –> 00:17:16,910
seems to be an unusually high frequency
885
00:17:16,910 –> 00:17:18,940
seems to be an unusually high frequency
of major fires in and around the London
886
00:17:18,940 –> 00:17:18,950
of major fires in and around the London
887
00:17:18,950 –> 00:17:21,340
of major fires in and around the London
area in the last couple of months I
888
00:17:21,340 –> 00:17:21,350
area in the last couple of months I
889
00:17:21,350 –> 00:17:23,860
area in the last couple of months I
haven’t looked at as a statistical
890
00:17:23,860 –> 00:17:23,870
haven’t looked at as a statistical
891
00:17:23,870 –> 00:17:27,760
haven’t looked at as a statistical
frequency chart but but major fires are
892
00:17:27,760 –> 00:17:27,770
frequency chart but but major fires are
893
00:17:27,770 –> 00:17:30,790
frequency chart but but major fires are
getting quite common one wonders if that
894
00:17:30,790 –> 00:17:30,800
getting quite common one wonders if that
895
00:17:30,800 –> 00:17:33,640
getting quite common one wonders if that
could be a result it is a technique that
896
00:17:33,640 –> 00:17:33,650
could be a result it is a technique that
897
00:17:33,650 –> 00:17:35,770
could be a result it is a technique that
has been used before one of the problems
898
00:17:35,770 –> 00:17:35,780
has been used before one of the problems
899
00:17:35,780 –> 00:17:37,799
has been used before one of the problems
of this sort of thing is they at
900
00:17:37,799 –> 00:17:37,809
of this sort of thing is they at
901
00:17:37,809 –> 00:17:39,239
of this sort of thing is they at
again you and I have discussed this
902
00:17:39,239 –> 00:17:39,249
again you and I have discussed this
903
00:17:39,249 –> 00:17:40,259
again you and I have discussed this
before but there’s a tremendous
904
00:17:40,259 –> 00:17:40,269
before but there’s a tremendous
905
00:17:40,269 –> 00:17:43,320
before but there’s a tremendous
hesitancy to point the finger at
906
00:17:43,320 –> 00:17:43,330
hesitancy to point the finger at
907
00:17:43,330 –> 00:17:45,810
hesitancy to point the finger at
terrorism to these things and so it gets
908
00:17:45,810 –> 00:17:45,820
terrorism to these things and so it gets
909
00:17:45,820 –> 00:17:47,459
terrorism to these things and so it gets
drugged on and covered up and held back
910
00:17:47,459 –> 00:17:47,469
drugged on and covered up and held back
911
00:17:47,469 –> 00:17:49,200
drugged on and covered up and held back
and all of that sort of thing and I
912
00:17:49,200 –> 00:17:49,210
and all of that sort of thing and I
913
00:17:49,210 –> 00:17:51,869
and all of that sort of thing and I
don’t like that but I wouldn’t be
914
00:17:51,869 –> 00:17:51,879
don’t like that but I wouldn’t be
915
00:17:51,879 –> 00:17:53,459
don’t like that but I wouldn’t be
surprised certainly it’s a tactic that
916
00:17:53,459 –> 00:17:53,469
surprised certainly it’s a tactic that
917
00:17:53,469 –> 00:17:57,479
surprised certainly it’s a tactic that
has been used there successfully and it
918
00:17:57,479 –> 00:17:57,489
has been used there successfully and it
919
00:17:57,489 –> 00:18:00,839
has been used there successfully and it
can be very very destructive so I don’t
920
00:18:00,839 –> 00:18:00,849
can be very very destructive so I don’t
921
00:18:00,849 –> 00:18:03,539
can be very very destructive so I don’t
know that any of them were recent of
922
00:18:03,539 –> 00:18:03,549
know that any of them were recent of
923
00:18:03,549 –> 00:18:05,820
know that any of them were recent of
these recent attacks like the apartment
924
00:18:05,820 –> 00:18:05,830
these recent attacks like the apartment
925
00:18:05,830 –> 00:18:07,589
these recent attacks like the apartment
building that turned into a chimney that
926
00:18:07,589 –> 00:18:07,599
building that turned into a chimney that
927
00:18:07,599 –> 00:18:08,700
building that turned into a chimney that
killed everybody
928
00:18:08,700 –> 00:18:08,710
killed everybody
929
00:18:08,710 –> 00:18:10,619
killed everybody
based on the insulation that had been
930
00:18:10,619 –> 00:18:10,629
based on the insulation that had been
931
00:18:10,629 –> 00:18:12,810
based on the insulation that had been
added later as a green effort so on but
932
00:18:12,810 –> 00:18:12,820
added later as a green effort so on but
933
00:18:12,820 –> 00:18:16,169
added later as a green effort so on but
it could be III don’t know but it would
934
00:18:16,169 –> 00:18:16,179
it could be III don’t know but it would
935
00:18:16,179 –> 00:18:17,549
it could be III don’t know but it would
be nice if those things were looked at
936
00:18:17,549 –> 00:18:17,559
be nice if those things were looked at
937
00:18:17,559 –> 00:18:20,430
be nice if those things were looked at
and the facts discussed so that we would
938
00:18:20,430 –> 00:18:20,440
and the facts discussed so that we would
939
00:18:20,440 –> 00:18:22,349
and the facts discussed so that we would
see if they’re arson then we need to be
940
00:18:22,349 –> 00:18:22,359
see if they’re arson then we need to be
941
00:18:22,359 –> 00:18:26,129
see if they’re arson then we need to be
very suspicious of that it came from a
942
00:18:26,129 –> 00:18:26,139
very suspicious of that it came from a
943
00:18:26,139 –> 00:18:28,589
very suspicious of that it came from a
terrorist activity if it’s not arson if
944
00:18:28,589 –> 00:18:28,599
terrorist activity if it’s not arson if
945
00:18:28,599 –> 00:18:29,999
terrorist activity if it’s not arson if
it’s an accident well it’s an accident
946
00:18:29,999 –> 00:18:30,009
it’s an accident well it’s an accident
947
00:18:30,009 –> 00:18:32,759
it’s an accident well it’s an accident
things things do happen so we don’t know
948
00:18:32,759 –> 00:18:32,769
things things do happen so we don’t know
949
00:18:32,769 –> 00:18:34,589
things things do happen so we don’t know
but you don’t hear those things being
950
00:18:34,589 –> 00:18:34,599
but you don’t hear those things being
951
00:18:34,599 –> 00:18:35,969
but you don’t hear those things being
discussed publicly when they should be
952
00:18:35,969 –> 00:18:35,979
discussed publicly when they should be
953
00:18:35,979 –> 00:18:39,419
discussed publicly when they should be
and as I said the the firemen and these
954
00:18:39,419 –> 00:18:39,429
and as I said the the firemen and these
955
00:18:39,429 –> 00:18:41,639
and as I said the the firemen and these
guys really know their stops so they
956
00:18:41,639 –> 00:18:41,649
guys really know their stops so they
957
00:18:41,649 –> 00:18:44,190
guys really know their stops so they
they’re ordinarily good at determining
958
00:18:44,190 –> 00:18:44,200
they’re ordinarily good at determining
959
00:18:44,200 –> 00:18:47,219
they’re ordinarily good at determining
very quickly in their investigations the
960
00:18:47,219 –> 00:18:47,229
very quickly in their investigations the
961
00:18:47,229 –> 00:18:49,379
very quickly in their investigations the
cause of a fire and can quickly trace it
962
00:18:49,379 –> 00:18:49,389
cause of a fire and can quickly trace it
963
00:18:49,389 –> 00:18:51,690
cause of a fire and can quickly trace it
back to if something was used to start
964
00:18:51,690 –> 00:18:51,700
back to if something was used to start
965
00:18:51,700 –> 00:18:53,969
back to if something was used to start
it as in arson or if it was just an
966
00:18:53,969 –> 00:18:53,979
it as in arson or if it was just an
967
00:18:53,979 –> 00:18:56,129
it as in arson or if it was just an
electrical accident or or something else
968
00:18:56,129 –> 00:18:56,139
electrical accident or or something else
969
00:18:56,139 –> 00:19:00,029
electrical accident or or something else
that caused a fire to start do so d is
970
00:19:00,029 –> 00:19:00,039
that caused a fire to start do so d is
971
00:19:00,039 –> 00:19:01,440
that caused a fire to start do so d is
there any other particulars any other
972
00:19:01,440 –> 00:19:01,450
there any other particulars any other
973
00:19:01,450 –> 00:19:04,109
there any other particulars any other
subjects or particular issues that you’d
974
00:19:04,109 –> 00:19:04,119
subjects or particular issues that you’d
975
00:19:04,119 –> 00:19:06,089
subjects or particular issues that you’d
like to raise feel people need to be
976
00:19:06,089 –> 00:19:06,099
like to raise feel people need to be
977
00:19:06,099 –> 00:19:09,989
like to raise feel people need to be
aware of yeah it’s it’s something that
978
00:19:09,989 –> 00:19:09,999
aware of yeah it’s it’s something that
979
00:19:09,999 –> 00:19:12,239
aware of yeah it’s it’s something that
has bothered me for a long time I it was
980
00:19:12,239 –> 00:19:12,249
has bothered me for a long time I it was
981
00:19:12,249 –> 00:19:13,950
has bothered me for a long time I it was
actually one of the issues that made me
982
00:19:13,950 –> 00:19:13,960
actually one of the issues that made me
983
00:19:13,960 –> 00:19:15,930
actually one of the issues that made me
began discussing these things publicly
984
00:19:15,930 –> 00:19:15,940
began discussing these things publicly
985
00:19:15,940 –> 00:19:18,989
began discussing these things publicly
which is the Sabrina de Souza case I
986
00:19:18,989 –> 00:19:18,999
which is the Sabrina de Souza case I
987
00:19:18,999 –> 00:19:20,519
which is the Sabrina de Souza case I
would give an update on that
988
00:19:20,519 –> 00:19:20,529
would give an update on that
989
00:19:20,529 –> 00:19:22,919
would give an update on that
Sabrina de Souza just as quickly to
990
00:19:22,919 –> 00:19:22,929
Sabrina de Souza just as quickly to
991
00:19:22,929 –> 00:19:26,459
Sabrina de Souza just as quickly to
summarise was a former CIA officer
992
00:19:26,459 –> 00:19:26,469
summarise was a former CIA officer
993
00:19:26,469 –> 00:19:29,099
summarise was a former CIA officer
according to her own declarations on
994
00:19:29,099 –> 00:19:29,109
according to her own declarations on
995
00:19:29,109 –> 00:19:33,389
according to her own declarations on
that and worked in Italy and was part of
996
00:19:33,389 –> 00:19:33,399
that and worked in Italy and was part of
997
00:19:33,399 –> 00:19:34,919
that and worked in Italy and was part of
a rendition program the rendition
998
00:19:34,919 –> 00:19:34,929
a rendition program the rendition
999
00:19:34,929 –> 00:19:36,599
a rendition program the rendition
program is where we successfully took
1000
00:19:36,599 –> 00:19:36,609
program is where we successfully took
1001
00:19:36,609 –> 00:19:39,329
program is where we successfully took
known terrorists off the street and sent
1002
00:19:39,329 –> 00:19:39,339
known terrorists off the street and sent
1003
00:19:39,339 –> 00:19:42,029
known terrorists off the street and sent
them to places like Gitmo or in the case
1004
00:19:42,029 –> 00:19:42,039
them to places like Gitmo or in the case
1005
00:19:42,039 –> 00:19:44,070
them to places like Gitmo or in the case
of the ones you volved in and it leaves
1006
00:19:44,070 –> 00:19:44,080
of the ones you volved in and it leaves
1007
00:19:44,080 –> 00:19:46,079
of the ones you volved in and it leaves
a in Egyptian terrorists and known
1008
00:19:46,079 –> 00:19:46,089
a in Egyptian terrorists and known
1009
00:19:46,089 –> 00:19:47,489
a in Egyptian terrorists and known
Egyptian terrorists who was sent back to
1010
00:19:47,489 –> 00:19:47,499
Egyptian terrorists who was sent back to
1011
00:19:47,499 –> 00:19:50,430
Egyptian terrorists who was sent back to
Egypt later the political winds in Italy
1012
00:19:50,430 –> 00:19:50,440
Egypt later the political winds in Italy
1013
00:19:50,440 –> 00:19:51,240
Egypt later the political winds in Italy
changed
1014
00:19:51,240 –> 00:19:51,250
changed
1015
00:19:51,250 –> 00:19:55,770
changed
they had 24 sealed indictments against
1016
00:19:55,770 –> 00:19:55,780
they had 24 sealed indictments against
1017
00:19:55,780 –> 00:19:56,910
they had 24 sealed indictments against
different people for having been
1018
00:19:56,910 –> 00:19:56,920
different people for having been
1019
00:19:56,920 –> 00:19:58,890
different people for having been
involved in what they then turned the
1020
00:19:58,890 –> 00:19:58,900
involved in what they then turned the
1021
00:19:58,900 –> 00:20:01,260
involved in what they then turned the
kidnapping and although they had been
1022
00:20:01,260 –> 00:20:01,270
kidnapping and although they had been
1023
00:20:01,270 –> 00:20:02,640
kidnapping and although they had been
supportive of the operation at the time
1024
00:20:02,640 –> 00:20:02,650
supportive of the operation at the time
1025
00:20:02,650 –> 00:20:07,440
supportive of the operation at the time
and Sabrina de Souza was one of those
1026
00:20:07,440 –> 00:20:07,450
and Sabrina de Souza was one of those
1027
00:20:07,450 –> 00:20:08,940
and Sabrina de Souza was one of those
people under sealed indictment who was
1028
00:20:08,940 –> 00:20:08,950
people under sealed indictment who was
1029
00:20:08,950 –> 00:20:10,920
people under sealed indictment who was
later than convicted in Italian courts
1030
00:20:10,920 –> 00:20:10,930
later than convicted in Italian courts
1031
00:20:10,930 –> 00:20:15,080
later than convicted in Italian courts
and sentenced to four years of jail time
1032
00:20:15,080 –> 00:20:15,090
and sentenced to four years of jail time
1033
00:20:15,090 –> 00:20:17,340
and sentenced to four years of jail time
that was where I went public raised a
1034
00:20:17,340 –> 00:20:17,350
that was where I went public raised a
1035
00:20:17,350 –> 00:20:19,980
that was where I went public raised a
fuss got a lot of political support out
1036
00:20:19,980 –> 00:20:19,990
fuss got a lot of political support out
1037
00:20:19,990 –> 00:20:23,730
fuss got a lot of political support out
of NSC and and Congress and so on and so
1038
00:20:23,730 –> 00:20:23,740
of NSC and and Congress and so on and so
1039
00:20:23,740 –> 00:20:25,640
of NSC and and Congress and so on and so
they kind of went to bat for this and
1040
00:20:25,640 –> 00:20:25,650
they kind of went to bat for this and
1041
00:20:25,650 –> 00:20:31,770
they kind of went to bat for this and
she was then her her up conviction was
1042
00:20:31,770 –> 00:20:31,780
she was then her her up conviction was
1043
00:20:31,780 –> 00:20:34,410
she was then her her up conviction was
was modified to three years where she
1044
00:20:34,410 –> 00:20:34,420
was modified to three years where she
1045
00:20:34,420 –> 00:20:36,360
was modified to three years where she
could serve that time in Portugal where
1046
00:20:36,360 –> 00:20:36,370
could serve that time in Portugal where
1047
00:20:36,370 –> 00:20:38,430
could serve that time in Portugal where
she lived and now her she lives now and
1048
00:20:38,430 –> 00:20:38,440
she lived and now her she lives now and
1049
00:20:38,440 –> 00:20:40,530
she lived and now her she lives now and
then no jail time just three years
1050
00:20:40,530 –> 00:20:40,540
then no jail time just three years
1051
00:20:40,540 –> 00:20:43,890
then no jail time just three years
community serves so but that that didn’t
1052
00:20:43,890 –> 00:20:43,900
community serves so but that that didn’t
1053
00:20:43,900 –> 00:20:45,630
community serves so but that that didn’t
help Sabrina de Souza but the underlying
1054
00:20:45,630 –> 00:20:45,640
help Sabrina de Souza but the underlying
1055
00:20:45,640 –> 00:20:47,160
help Sabrina de Souza but the underlying
problem was never addressed and this is
1056
00:20:47,160 –> 00:20:47,170
problem was never addressed and this is
1057
00:20:47,170 –> 00:20:48,660
problem was never addressed and this is
what I’ve continued to derail about
1058
00:20:48,660 –> 00:20:48,670
what I’ve continued to derail about
1059
00:20:48,670 –> 00:20:51,240
what I’ve continued to derail about
because you have a former CIA officer
1060
00:20:51,240 –> 00:20:51,250
because you have a former CIA officer
1061
00:20:51,250 –> 00:20:55,410
because you have a former CIA officer
who was convicted of a crime for doing
1062
00:20:55,410 –> 00:20:55,420
who was convicted of a crime for doing
1063
00:20:55,420 –> 00:20:57,750
who was convicted of a crime for doing
what she was legally ordered to do while
1064
00:20:57,750 –> 00:20:57,760
what she was legally ordered to do while
1065
00:20:57,760 –> 00:21:00,000
what she was legally ordered to do while
she was an employee so once she’s gone
1066
00:21:00,000 –> 00:21:00,010
she was an employee so once she’s gone
1067
00:21:00,010 –> 00:21:02,340
she was an employee so once she’s gone
she was just abandoned and former
1068
00:21:02,340 –> 00:21:02,350
she was just abandoned and former
1069
00:21:02,350 –> 00:21:04,230
she was just abandoned and former
director Brennan who made several trips
1070
00:21:04,230 –> 00:21:04,240
director Brennan who made several trips
1071
00:21:04,240 –> 00:21:05,760
director Brennan who made several trips
to Portugal during that period of time
1072
00:21:05,760 –> 00:21:05,770
to Portugal during that period of time
1073
00:21:05,770 –> 00:21:07,140
to Portugal during that period of time
where all this is being discussed did
1074
00:21:07,140 –> 00:21:07,150
where all this is being discussed did
1075
00:21:07,150 –> 00:21:09,780
where all this is being discussed did
nothing to stop it but the problem is if
1076
00:21:09,780 –> 00:21:09,790
nothing to stop it but the problem is if
1077
00:21:09,790 –> 00:21:12,090
nothing to stop it but the problem is if
P Italian government has problems with
1078
00:21:12,090 –> 00:21:12,100
P Italian government has problems with
1079
00:21:12,100 –> 00:21:14,030
P Italian government has problems with
what the United States government does
1080
00:21:14,030 –> 00:21:14,040
what the United States government does
1081
00:21:14,040 –> 00:21:16,560
what the United States government does
what they’ve done is change from having
1082
00:21:16,560 –> 00:21:16,570
what they’ve done is change from having
1083
00:21:16,570 –> 00:21:18,620
what they’ve done is change from having
a problem with the US government to
1084
00:21:18,620 –> 00:21:18,630
a problem with the US government to
1085
00:21:18,630 –> 00:21:21,060
a problem with the US government to
convicting and jailing those former
1086
00:21:21,060 –> 00:21:21,070
convicting and jailing those former
1087
00:21:21,070 –> 00:21:24,720
convicting and jailing those former
employees so now in today’s climate you
1088
00:21:24,720 –> 00:21:24,730
employees so now in today’s climate you
1089
00:21:24,730 –> 00:21:28,170
employees so now in today’s climate you
know in a State Department or military
1090
00:21:28,170 –> 00:21:28,180
know in a State Department or military
1091
00:21:28,180 –> 00:21:29,430
know in a State Department or military
even though they had a Status of Forces
1092
00:21:29,430 –> 00:21:29,440
even though they had a Status of Forces
1093
00:21:29,440 –> 00:21:31,200
even though they had a Status of Forces
Agreement in the military once they’re
1094
00:21:31,200 –> 00:21:31,210
Agreement in the military once they’re
1095
00:21:31,210 –> 00:21:34,290
Agreement in the military once they’re
out they’re fair game now and this is
1096
00:21:34,290 –> 00:21:34,300
out they’re fair game now and this is
1097
00:21:34,300 –> 00:21:35,820
out they’re fair game now and this is
what I’ve constantly warned them about
1098
00:21:35,820 –> 00:21:35,830
what I’ve constantly warned them about
1099
00:21:35,830 –> 00:21:38,010
what I’ve constantly warned them about
so what’s happened in Italy now the most
1100
00:21:38,010 –> 00:21:38,020
so what’s happened in Italy now the most
1101
00:21:38,020 –> 00:21:40,560
so what’s happened in Italy now the most
recent development is that I an
1102
00:21:40,560 –> 00:21:40,570
recent development is that I an
1103
00:21:40,570 –> 00:21:42,510
recent development is that I an
intelligence Oversight Committee wants
1104
00:21:42,510 –> 00:21:42,520
intelligence Oversight Committee wants
1105
00:21:42,520 –> 00:21:45,620
intelligence Oversight Committee wants
Rena D’Souza then to come to Italy and
1106
00:21:45,620 –> 00:21:45,630
Rena D’Souza then to come to Italy and
1107
00:21:45,630 –> 00:21:48,090
Rena D’Souza then to come to Italy and
testify to them which then that puts her
1108
00:21:48,090 –> 00:21:48,100
testify to them which then that puts her
1109
00:21:48,100 –> 00:21:50,430
testify to them which then that puts her
in a situation where she’s testifying to
1110
00:21:50,430 –> 00:21:50,440
in a situation where she’s testifying to
1111
00:21:50,440 –> 00:21:52,050
in a situation where she’s testifying to
a foreign government about classified US
1112
00:21:52,050 –> 00:21:52,060
a foreign government about classified US
1113
00:21:52,060 –> 00:21:53,850
a foreign government about classified US
government information so what’s
1114
00:21:53,850 –> 00:21:53,860
government information so what’s
1115
00:21:53,860 –> 00:21:56,370
government information so what’s
happened is now she’s going latest serve
1116
00:21:56,370 –> 00:21:56,380
happened is now she’s going latest serve
1117
00:21:56,380 –> 00:21:59,160
happened is now she’s going latest serve
out those four years of jail time so
1118
00:21:59,160 –> 00:21:59,170
out those four years of jail time so
1119
00:21:59,170 –> 00:22:01,080
out those four years of jail time so
you’ve got this person’s just in an
1120
00:22:01,080 –> 00:22:01,090
you’ve got this person’s just in an
1121
00:22:01,090 –> 00:22:03,090
you’ve got this person’s just in an
absolutely untenable position and
1122
00:22:03,090 –> 00:22:03,100
absolutely untenable position and
1123
00:22:03,100 –> 00:22:04,300
absolutely untenable position and
nobody’s doing anything about
1124
00:22:04,300 –> 00:22:04,310
nobody’s doing anything about
1125
00:22:04,310 –> 00:22:07,890
nobody’s doing anything about
is just left to fester well that is
1126
00:22:07,890 –> 00:22:07,900
is just left to fester well that is
1127
00:22:07,900 –> 00:22:10,780
is just left to fester well that is
international law is not a book where
1128
00:22:10,780 –> 00:22:10,790
international law is not a book where
1129
00:22:10,790 –> 00:22:12,520
international law is not a book where
you go to the law and look it up it’s
1130
00:22:12,520 –> 00:22:12,530
you go to the law and look it up it’s
1131
00:22:12,530 –> 00:22:14,380
you go to the law and look it up it’s
basically set on precedent so now we
1132
00:22:14,380 –> 00:22:14,390
basically set on precedent so now we
1133
00:22:14,390 –> 00:22:16,090
basically set on precedent so now we
have this international law precedent
1134
00:22:16,090 –> 00:22:16,100
have this international law precedent
1135
00:22:16,100 –> 00:22:18,910
have this international law precedent
where any former US government official
1136
00:22:18,910 –> 00:22:18,920
where any former US government official
1137
00:22:18,920 –> 00:22:20,410
where any former US government official
can then be convicted and sent to jail
1138
00:22:20,410 –> 00:22:20,420
can then be convicted and sent to jail
1139
00:22:20,420 –> 00:22:21,820
can then be convicted and sent to jail
for whatever he did while he was working
1140
00:22:21,820 –> 00:22:21,830
for whatever he did while he was working
1141
00:22:21,830 –> 00:22:23,740
for whatever he did while he was working
for the US government and nobody cares
1142
00:22:23,740 –> 00:22:23,750
for the US government and nobody cares
1143
00:22:23,750 –> 00:22:27,610
for the US government and nobody cares
they’re just they don’t care this is a
1144
00:22:27,610 –> 00:22:27,620
they’re just they don’t care this is a
1145
00:22:27,620 –> 00:22:29,260
they’re just they don’t care this is a
real problem this is going to play out
1146
00:22:29,260 –> 00:22:29,270
real problem this is going to play out
1147
00:22:29,270 –> 00:22:31,570
real problem this is going to play out
and be used as a political football in
1148
00:22:31,570 –> 00:22:31,580
and be used as a political football in
1149
00:22:31,580 –> 00:22:33,550
and be used as a political football in
the future for decades to come
1150
00:22:33,550 –> 00:22:33,560
the future for decades to come
1151
00:22:33,560 –> 00:22:36,190
the future for decades to come
and they’ve opened Pandora’s box the US
1152
00:22:36,190 –> 00:22:36,200
and they’ve opened Pandora’s box the US
1153
00:22:36,200 –> 00:22:37,180
and they’ve opened Pandora’s box the US
government should have stepped in
1154
00:22:37,180 –> 00:22:37,190
government should have stepped in
1155
00:22:37,190 –> 00:22:40,480
government should have stepped in
immediately and said look as soon as out
1156
00:22:40,480 –> 00:22:40,490
immediately and said look as soon as out
1157
00:22:40,490 –> 00:22:42,220
immediately and said look as soon as out
of it leave her alone you know her
1158
00:22:42,220 –> 00:22:42,230
of it leave her alone you know her
1159
00:22:42,230 –> 00:22:43,810
of it leave her alone you know her
conviction is nonsense you got a problem
1160
00:22:43,810 –> 00:22:43,820
conviction is nonsense you got a problem
1161
00:22:43,820 –> 00:22:46,380
conviction is nonsense you got a problem
problems with thoughts you know the US
1162
00:22:46,380 –> 00:22:46,390
problems with thoughts you know the US
1163
00:22:46,390 –> 00:22:48,460
problems with thoughts you know the US
absolutely what year would fight out
1164
00:22:48,460 –> 00:22:48,470
absolutely what year would fight out
1165
00:22:48,470 –> 00:22:50,890
absolutely what year would fight out
fossil very far I’m sorry what year was
1166
00:22:50,890 –> 00:22:50,900
fossil very far I’m sorry what year was
1167
00:22:50,900 –> 00:22:52,750
fossil very far I’m sorry what year was
that where they changed with a the
1168
00:22:52,750 –> 00:22:52,760
that where they changed with a the
1169
00:22:52,760 –> 00:22:54,520
that where they changed with a the
Italian government acts acted against
1170
00:22:54,520 –> 00:22:54,530
Italian government acts acted against
1171
00:22:54,530 –> 00:22:57,190
Italian government acts acted against
her oh this is all reason this is all
1172
00:22:57,190 –> 00:22:57,200
her oh this is all reason this is all
1173
00:22:57,200 –> 00:22:59,860
her oh this is all reason this is all
been the last few months yet she she’s
1174
00:22:59,860 –> 00:22:59,870
been the last few months yet she she’s
1175
00:22:59,870 –> 00:23:02,740
been the last few months yet she she’s
the the her going being called to
1176
00:23:02,740 –> 00:23:02,750
the the her going being called to
1177
00:23:02,750 –> 00:23:04,720
the the her going being called to
testify was about a month ago and her
1178
00:23:04,720 –> 00:23:04,730
testify was about a month ago and her
1179
00:23:04,730 –> 00:23:06,190
testify was about a month ago and her
decision to go serve at her time and
1180
00:23:06,190 –> 00:23:06,200
decision to go serve at her time and
1181
00:23:06,200 –> 00:23:08,080
decision to go serve at her time and
Italy was just a few days ago so I don’t
1182
00:23:08,080 –> 00:23:08,090
Italy was just a few days ago so I don’t
1183
00:23:08,090 –> 00:23:10,060
Italy was just a few days ago so I don’t
know if she’s traveled there she hasn’t
1184
00:23:10,060 –> 00:23:10,070
know if she’s traveled there she hasn’t
1185
00:23:10,070 –> 00:23:13,420
know if she’s traveled there she hasn’t
been reported if she has and the there’s
1186
00:23:13,420 –> 00:23:13,430
been reported if she has and the there’s
1187
00:23:13,430 –> 00:23:15,250
been reported if she has and the there’s
still 21 sealed indictments out there to
1188
00:23:15,250 –> 00:23:15,260
still 21 sealed indictments out there to
1189
00:23:15,260 –> 00:23:18,610
still 21 sealed indictments out there to
and you know in today’s climate you hear
1190
00:23:18,610 –> 00:23:18,620
and you know in today’s climate you hear
1191
00:23:18,620 –> 00:23:21,310
and you know in today’s climate you hear
a lot of criticism of contractors and so
1192
00:23:21,310 –> 00:23:21,320
a lot of criticism of contractors and so
1193
00:23:21,320 –> 00:23:23,110
a lot of criticism of contractors and so
on those people now I mean these are
1194
00:23:23,110 –> 00:23:23,120
on those people now I mean these are
1195
00:23:23,120 –> 00:23:25,630
on those people now I mean these are
loyal US citizens in our case who who
1196
00:23:25,630 –> 00:23:25,640
loyal US citizens in our case who who
1197
00:23:25,640 –> 00:23:27,540
loyal US citizens in our case who who
serve our country overseas and
1198
00:23:27,540 –> 00:23:27,550
serve our country overseas and
1199
00:23:27,550 –> 00:23:31,420
serve our country overseas and
contractor capacity and now those are
1200
00:23:31,420 –> 00:23:31,430
contractor capacity and now those are
1201
00:23:31,430 –> 00:23:32,620
contractor capacity and now those are
those those people are considered
1202
00:23:32,620 –> 00:23:32,630
those those people are considered
1203
00:23:32,630 –> 00:23:33,940
those those people are considered
cannon-fodder so it’s going to get
1204
00:23:33,940 –> 00:23:33,950
cannon-fodder so it’s going to get
1205
00:23:33,950 –> 00:23:35,440
cannon-fodder so it’s going to get
harder and harder to fill those
1206
00:23:35,440 –> 00:23:35,450
harder and harder to fill those
1207
00:23:35,450 –> 00:23:37,480
harder and harder to fill those
positions and if you see a few more
1208
00:23:37,480 –> 00:23:37,490
positions and if you see a few more
1209
00:23:37,490 –> 00:23:39,640
positions and if you see a few more
cases of these things going on like what
1210
00:23:39,640 –> 00:23:39,650
cases of these things going on like what
1211
00:23:39,650 –> 00:23:42,790
cases of these things going on like what
we’ve seen is Sabrina D’Souza these
1212
00:23:42,790 –> 00:23:42,800
we’ve seen is Sabrina D’Souza these
1213
00:23:42,800 –> 00:23:43,930
we’ve seen is Sabrina D’Souza these
positions are just going to get harder
1214
00:23:43,930 –> 00:23:43,940
positions are just going to get harder
1215
00:23:43,940 –> 00:23:45,790
positions are just going to get harder
and harder to fill and that you know
1216
00:23:45,790 –> 00:23:45,800
and harder to fill and that you know
1217
00:23:45,800 –> 00:23:47,670
and harder to fill and that you know
this government is going to be you know
1218
00:23:47,670 –> 00:23:47,680
this government is going to be you know
1219
00:23:47,680 –> 00:23:50,620
this government is going to be you know
greatly you know have to propel what
1220
00:23:50,620 –> 00:23:50,630
greatly you know have to propel what
1221
00:23:50,630 –> 00:23:52,990
greatly you know have to propel what
their activities are and so on because
1222
00:23:52,990 –> 00:23:53,000
their activities are and so on because
1223
00:23:53,000 –> 00:23:54,430
their activities are and so on because
the people just won’t be able they know
1224
00:23:54,430 –> 00:23:54,440
the people just won’t be able they know
1225
00:23:54,440 –> 00:23:55,600
the people just won’t be able they know
they’re not going to have the backing of
1226
00:23:55,600 –> 00:23:55,610
they’re not going to have the backing of
1227
00:23:55,610 –> 00:23:59,230
they’re not going to have the backing of
the US government to to help them and we
1228
00:23:59,230 –> 00:23:59,240
the US government to to help them and we
1229
00:23:59,240 –> 00:24:02,950
the US government to to help them and we
the former former government employees
1230
00:24:02,950 –> 00:24:02,960
the former former government employees
1231
00:24:02,960 –> 00:24:06,670
the former former government employees
are probably smart not to travel you
1232
00:24:06,670 –> 00:24:06,680
are probably smart not to travel you
1233
00:24:06,680 –> 00:24:08,920
are probably smart not to travel you
know overseas to a lot of these areas as
1234
00:24:08,920 –> 00:24:08,930
know overseas to a lot of these areas as
1235
00:24:08,930 –> 00:24:10,480
know overseas to a lot of these areas as
if they’d served there before and so on
1236
00:24:10,480 –> 00:24:10,490
if they’d served there before and so on
1237
00:24:10,490 –> 00:24:12,070
if they’d served there before and so on
because of the problems it could have it
1238
00:24:12,070 –> 00:24:12,080
because of the problems it could have it
1239
00:24:12,080 –> 00:24:13,570
because of the problems it could have it
could crop up I mean that’s that’s the
1240
00:24:13,570 –> 00:24:13,580
could crop up I mean that’s that’s the
1241
00:24:13,580 –> 00:24:15,760
could crop up I mean that’s that’s the
way this is headed it might still be
1242
00:24:15,760 –> 00:24:15,770
way this is headed it might still be
1243
00:24:15,770 –> 00:24:16,899
way this is headed it might still be
fixed but
1244
00:24:16,899 –> 00:24:16,909
fixed but
1245
00:24:16,909 –> 00:24:18,039
fixed but
you know like I said nobody’s paying
1246
00:24:18,039 –> 00:24:18,049
you know like I said nobody’s paying
1247
00:24:18,049 –> 00:24:21,430
you know like I said nobody’s paying
attention to it the implications are
1248
00:24:21,430 –> 00:24:21,440
attention to it the implications are
1249
00:24:21,440 –> 00:24:24,219
attention to it the implications are
just so frightening
1250
00:24:24,219 –> 00:24:24,229
just so frightening
1251
00:24:24,229 –> 00:24:27,219
just so frightening
yeah it’ll spread to I mean certainly
1252
00:24:27,219 –> 00:24:27,229
yeah it’ll spread to I mean certainly
1253
00:24:27,229 –> 00:24:30,129
yeah it’ll spread to I mean certainly
you and seeded and with Canadian
1254
00:24:30,129 –> 00:24:30,139
you and seeded and with Canadian
1255
00:24:30,139 –> 00:24:31,930
you and seeded and with Canadian
officials to when they’re overseas and
1256
00:24:31,930 –> 00:24:31,940
officials to when they’re overseas and
1257
00:24:31,940 –> 00:24:34,479
officials to when they’re overseas and
there are there are like pains overseas
1258
00:24:34,479 –> 00:24:34,489
there are there are like pains overseas
1259
00:24:34,489 –> 00:24:36,849
there are there are like pains overseas
and one capacitor another and you’re
1260
00:24:36,849 –> 00:24:36,859
and one capacitor another and you’re
1261
00:24:36,859 –> 00:24:38,859
and one capacitor another and you’re
just going to see the international law
1262
00:24:38,859 –> 00:24:38,869
just going to see the international law
1263
00:24:38,869 –> 00:24:41,399
just going to see the international law
once it has president as precedent and
1264
00:24:41,399 –> 00:24:41,409
once it has president as precedent and
1265
00:24:41,409 –> 00:24:44,200
once it has president as precedent and
it’s it’s like a virus you know once
1266
00:24:44,200 –> 00:24:44,210
it’s it’s like a virus you know once
1267
00:24:44,210 –> 00:24:45,609
it’s it’s like a virus you know once
it’s out there and start spreading it’s
1268
00:24:45,609 –> 00:24:45,619
it’s out there and start spreading it’s
1269
00:24:45,619 –> 00:24:47,529
it’s out there and start spreading it’s
just going to cause problems and mayhem
1270
00:24:47,529 –> 00:24:47,539
just going to cause problems and mayhem
1271
00:24:47,539 –> 00:24:49,239
just going to cause problems and mayhem
everywhere and you you know what
1272
00:24:49,239 –> 00:24:49,249
everywhere and you you know what
1273
00:24:49,249 –> 00:24:51,070
everywhere and you you know what
what good is diplomatic immunity and
1274
00:24:51,070 –> 00:24:51,080
what good is diplomatic immunity and
1275
00:24:51,080 –> 00:24:52,690
what good is diplomatic immunity and
that’s one of the important things where
1276
00:24:52,690 –> 00:24:52,700
that’s one of the important things where
1277
00:24:52,700 –> 00:24:54,609
that’s one of the important things where
we have embassy set up so that there’s a
1278
00:24:54,609 –> 00:24:54,619
we have embassy set up so that there’s a
1279
00:24:54,619 –> 00:24:57,159
we have embassy set up so that there’s a
line of communication and if you’re
1280
00:24:57,159 –> 00:24:57,169
line of communication and if you’re
1281
00:24:57,169 –> 00:24:58,479
line of communication and if you’re
going to start chipping away at those
1282
00:24:58,479 –> 00:24:58,489
going to start chipping away at those
1283
00:24:58,489 –> 00:25:01,419
going to start chipping away at those
authorities and and international norms
1284
00:25:01,419 –> 00:25:01,429
authorities and and international norms
1285
00:25:01,429 –> 00:25:03,070
authorities and and international norms
that have existed for hundreds of years
1286
00:25:03,070 –> 00:25:03,080
that have existed for hundreds of years
1287
00:25:03,080 –> 00:25:05,499
that have existed for hundreds of years
it’ll it’ll cause man but there are
1288
00:25:05,499 –> 00:25:05,509
it’ll it’ll cause man but there are
1289
00:25:05,509 –> 00:25:06,909
it’ll it’ll cause man but there are
people out there who want man and
1290
00:25:06,909 –> 00:25:06,919
people out there who want man and
1291
00:25:06,919 –> 00:25:09,999
people out there who want man and
certainly the Islamic extremists want
1292
00:25:09,999 –> 00:25:10,009
certainly the Islamic extremists want
1293
00:25:10,009 –> 00:25:13,930
certainly the Islamic extremists want
that so you know there’s a lot of people
1294
00:25:13,930 –> 00:25:13,940
that so you know there’s a lot of people
1295
00:25:13,940 –> 00:25:16,119
that so you know there’s a lot of people
that bend their political will they’ve
1296
00:25:16,119 –> 00:25:16,129
that bend their political will they’ve
1297
00:25:16,129 –> 00:25:18,249
that bend their political will they’ve
been very successful in attacking and
1298
00:25:18,249 –> 00:25:18,259
been very successful in attacking and
1299
00:25:18,259 –> 00:25:19,389
been very successful in attacking and
causing different governments in Europe
1300
00:25:19,389 –> 00:25:19,399
causing different governments in Europe
1301
00:25:19,399 –> 00:25:21,369
causing different governments in Europe
in particular to change their election
1302
00:25:21,369 –> 00:25:21,379
in particular to change their election
1303
00:25:21,379 –> 00:25:23,200
in particular to change their election
results and so on and both different
1304
00:25:23,200 –> 00:25:23,210
results and so on and both different
1305
00:25:23,210 –> 00:25:25,539
results and so on and both different
ways just before an election and and so
1306
00:25:25,539 –> 00:25:25,549
ways just before an election and and so
1307
00:25:25,549 –> 00:25:28,539
ways just before an election and and so
on to bring in parties that are less
1308
00:25:28,539 –> 00:25:28,549
on to bring in parties that are less
1309
00:25:28,549 –> 00:25:31,899
on to bring in parties that are less
likely to stand up for themselves we see
1310
00:25:31,899 –> 00:25:31,909
likely to stand up for themselves we see
1311
00:25:31,909 –> 00:25:35,680
likely to stand up for themselves we see
a lot of that I can’t thank you enough
1312
00:25:35,680 –> 00:25:35,690
a lot of that I can’t thank you enough
1313
00:25:35,690 –> 00:25:38,979
a lot of that I can’t thank you enough
of this is really very it’s frightening
1314
00:25:38,979 –> 00:25:38,989
of this is really very it’s frightening
1315
00:25:38,989 –> 00:25:41,889
of this is really very it’s frightening
but really quality information thank you
1316
00:25:41,889 –> 00:25:41,899
but really quality information thank you
1317
00:25:41,899 –> 00:25:43,359
but really quality information thank you
very much for taking the time again with
1318
00:25:43,359 –> 00:25:43,369
very much for taking the time again with
1319
00:25:43,369 –> 00:25:44,859
very much for taking the time again with
us and I’m hoping we could do this again
1320
00:25:44,859 –> 00:25:44,869
us and I’m hoping we could do this again
1321
00:25:44,869 –> 00:25:47,739
us and I’m hoping we could do this again
in another few weeks there’s more it
1322
00:25:47,739 –> 00:25:47,749
in another few weeks there’s more it
1323
00:25:47,749 –> 00:25:49,419
in another few weeks there’s more it
would be my pleasure it would be my
1324
00:25:49,419 –> 00:25:49,429
would be my pleasure it would be my
1325
00:25:49,429 –> 00:25:58,400
would be my pleasure it would be my
pleasure thank you
1326
00:25:58,400 –> 00:25:58,410
1327
00:25:58,410 –> 00:26:00,470
you