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brad johnson here we are it is May 22nd
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I think 2019 and a really interesting
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story drifted by in my river of emails I
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think the original source I saw it from
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was on pamela geller site which I’m sure
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linked through to a news a news site
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that said that six different leaders of
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Italian intelligence had been arrested
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so we’re not talking about the usual
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kind of stuff you see on Hannity like no
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disrespect to entity or Fox whatsoever
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but there’s an endless stream of insider
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baseball about you know how we’re gonna
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start restoring the reality after the
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more crazy investigation now but here’s
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some real news six guys who were head of
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Italian intelligence were arrested
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somehow connected to being complicit in
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the in the attempted coup against
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President Trump so maybe I’m jumping the
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gun to call it an attempted coup but I
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think a lot of this figure that’s what
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it was so I was really hoping you could
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shed a bit of insight on because it
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looks to me like this is the first real
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thing please go ahead I yet now this
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links to a lot of stuff but very quickly
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so you had the the three services the
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three main services out of Italy which
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are the it’s a federal law enforcement
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dis and it’s then the information and
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security services external and then
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separately internal so look at it as the
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sort of FBI law enforcement which would
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be the FBI Criminal Division the FBI CI
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counterintelligence division which is
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their intelligence division and the CIA
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so it’s sort of those three things in
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their system the to criminal and
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intelligence parts of the FBI are split
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into two two separate agencies and then
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the CIA so the number one and two of all
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those three agencies got fired and
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subsequently picked up so they’ve gotten
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real trouble now how did this happen you
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know that’s that’s got to be a question
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in everybody’s mind now this links back
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there
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most of this is all public information
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but it does lead back to these links and
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connections and stuff feedback and
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aren’t being talked about very much if F
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oh and by the way I will say you and I
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and these interviews have been talking
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about the intelligence program that
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created this raw show scandal that where
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they were trying to implicate President
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Trump and have working for the Russian
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so that you and I have been talking
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about this and linking it back and
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pointing at John Brennan and so on for
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well over a year now at this point and
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have been these programs these
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recordings but all of your viewers are
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are some of the best informed people out
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there because this has been show prep
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and I see our interviews end up on the
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national news programs all the time word
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for word in many cases and using the
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same documents that we refer to here and
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so on but now so keep an eye out in the
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next three four five days and you’ll
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probably see this interview replayed by
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somebody else on national news so these
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these six guys out of Italy get sacked
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and in trouble legal trouble now back in
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Italy now how did that happen now what
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what has happened in the background is
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President Trump called the Prime
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Minister of Italy and said look there’s
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this case of George papadopolis where
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this guy named myth sued who is a 59
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year old professor in Malta Italian
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citizen connected to all of these
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intelligence services they all know him
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and have worked with him was part of
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this operation that kicked off the
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Russia investigation he was one of the
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main players in trying to involve George
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papadopolis in this this this mass of
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trying to blame trunk for colluding with
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the Russians so key player in there who
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then suddenly disappears is off the
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record so you’ve got president calling
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up Italy going you know
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whiskey-tango-foxtrot who is this guy
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what is going on here what are his
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connections back to the Italian
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government and the Prime Minister as a
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result takes a look at it fires these
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six guys so now that has not come out
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public the background of it but this is
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what led up to the firing of those six
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so I would say just extremely unlikely
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for this to be anything other than those
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six having been involved in what now is
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clearly a very large international
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effort to implicate Trump as having
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colluded with the Russians now back to
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Papadopoulos again now a couple of
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things on that now Papadopoulos was
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clearly targeted by the FBI as we know
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as part of this investigation his
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then-girlfriend fiancee an Italian was
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visiting him the FBI across her and
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tries to tell convince her that her
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boyfriend Papadopoulos is some evil spy
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for the Russians doing awful stuff and
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and needed to be you know arrested and
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put in jail and she they needed her
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cooperation and they wanted her to wear
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a wire to talk to her fiance boyfriend
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Papadopoulos and get all the all the
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scoop on it so several aspects of that
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that are interesting first of all
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they’re clearly out there really beating
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the bush you know to go to the guy’s
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girlfriend now this isn’t like some
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hardened criminal and as a girlfriend
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the girl for knows he’s guilty of doing
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all this stuff this is some guy who
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never had anything to do with any of
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that he’d been traveled around and
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worked in London and and spent some time
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in Italy and they’d been working in the
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States and so on was an international
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you know businessman type guy not some
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you know there was no reason to for her
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to look at him and go yeah okay yeah
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he’s criminal we need to get him and
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turn against him so it’s really you know
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that’s not your typical type of cases
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the FBI would sort of use this tactic on
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so unusual from the get-go but it shows
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also they’re very high interest in
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getting recordings now what you do with
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the recording you create a transcript
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now what Papadopoulos did and he came
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out in an interview just the other day
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with the Ingram angle it’s a television
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program the Laura Ingraham does and in
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an interview with her he made the
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comment that he’d been questioned a
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couple of times by congressmen asking if
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he had been shown transcripts of these
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conversations with Massoud this
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professor that in
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implicated him and this Russian scandal
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with again targeting Trump and so he
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said no no never seen a transcript but
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of course what that’s led him to
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conclude based on the fact that they
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were trying to get a recording and
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consequently a transcript from his
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girlfriend that they had been clearly
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doing it with these other guys and the
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implication there is that MIT suit did
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one now that makes perfect sense if
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again Occam’s razor you take the
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simplest explanation that fits all the
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details and it looks like the Italian
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services jointly cooperated in this
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effort to frame Trump essentially and
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have this myth sued where a listening
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device as he was talking to Papadopoulos
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and a wire is everyone likes to call so
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a he apparently then was wearing this
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wire and so Congress then now has
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getting these documents back out of FBI
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that would have been shared with the
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Italians back to the CIA and FBI here on
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our end and those documents transcripts
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have been men supplied to Congress now
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Papadopoulos concludes this based on the
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fact that they were clearly using this
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technique because he knows for a fact
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through his girlfriend is now life
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either married and meadows and another
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congressman whose name escapes me
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John Ratcliffe John Radcliffe also asked
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if if if Papa Thomas had seen
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transcripts so and which he has not so
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but his conclusion out of all of that is
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that Congress has these transcripts and
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they have read them now that is absolute
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that is a bombshell and so and it makes
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perfect sense because these what appears
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to have happened the scenario that fits
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the circumstances the facts that we’ve
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just related is that Masood World wire
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talked to Papadopoulos transcripts
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recreated by the Italian service this
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was an operation run by the Italians at
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the behest of us of the FBI and CIA CIA
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primarily in this case would be the lead
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but both were probably involved and that
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these transcripts were then brought back
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to the FBI to process this case to build
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the case on against Trump for Trump
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now again to support that John Brennan
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has come out in the last couple of days
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and done a number of interviews where he
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talks about how well predicated his word
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how well predicated in this
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investigation was and this is precisely
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the type of evidence that a guy like
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John Brennan would have obtained to
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support the case to predicate the
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opening this investigation against Trump
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and therefore going to get the
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permission from the FISA Court to the
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warrant from the FISA Court to start to
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target the Trump campaign so all of
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these pieces fit together perfectly and
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it goes into exactly what I’ve been
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telling everybody now there’s enough
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information becoming public you start to
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see this stuff I’ve been looking at and
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why I conclude that all roads constantly
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lead back to John Brennan now another
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aspect of this that that again fits
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beautifully the AG bar the Attorney
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General bar has come out and said part
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of this investigation why he’s looking
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into what the government was doing to
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make sure that nobody had their thumb on
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the scale of justice and was trying to
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manipulate this case for their political
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motives one of the things he opened up
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about that he was looking at was current
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director of the CIA Jena ASP
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now current director of the CIA Jena
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Haspel is it was has always been a close
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associate of John Brennan’s and again as
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we’ve discussed was probably the chief
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of station in London
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at the time all this was being put
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together so in a few I hate to interrupt
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you there but you actually have brought
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me to the quite a next question I wanted
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to ask which was the mercenaries steel
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and I call him that because he clearly
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was an intelligence and scare quotes
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agent for hire was there a connection
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between him and UK intelligence and if
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so how’s that special relationship going
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well was there a connection a hundred
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percent yes I mean that’s where this guy
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came out of was originally from this is
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somebody that was shared at some time
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back with the FBI who also used him as
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some type of informant also this guy had
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connections to former perhaps current
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but certainly former KGB guys the
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Russian intelligence SVR so you know he
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was basically a a guy kind of trying to
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play these connections back and forth or
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whatever I mean my guess I don’t know
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this for a fact but whatever he would
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learn about the CIA he would try to pawn
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to the Russians whatever learned about
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the Russians even pawn to these other
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guys and so he was sort of a go-to guy
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you know an info hoe if you will and was
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just selling what he could sell to
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anybody to make money and so had this
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opportunity a great contract to come up
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with information against Trump that he
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was supposed to have received out of
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Russia needed to have something to do
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with Russia because that was the goal or
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right to link Trump President Trump to
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colluding with Russia so he went to his
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KGB contacts SVR Russian intelligence
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contacts to obtain this information and
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something I’ve talked about before but
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that’s it that’s a guy steal then would
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have told them what he wants and why I
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mean or to some degree why and he
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probably paid them for for this stuff
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because he had a huge contract and would
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have subcontracted out information and
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goes to the KGB guys I need damaging
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information on Trump so if anything that
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is actual true honest-to-god collusion
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where this guy as an intermediary for
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the Hillary Clinton campaign paid by
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them through a series of lawyers then
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goes to Russian intelligence and says I
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need dirt on Trump now no proof and we
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probably will never have any but those
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guys it doesn’t work the same I mean you
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know they’re famous comments about once
0:12:48.160,0:12:51.760
you’re in the SVR or once you’re in the
0:12:50.020,0:12:55.060
Russian intelligence a KGB you never
0:12:51.760,0:12:56.410
leave well and there’s truth to that to
0:12:55.060,0:12:58.810
some degree because those guys all
0:12:56.410,0:13:00.790
remain in contact so there’s absolutely
0:12:58.810,0:13:03.220
zero reason to believe that once those
0:13:00.790,0:13:04.990
guys were working on gathering dirt on
0:13:03.220,0:13:07.750
Trump that they didn’t go to their
0:13:04.990,0:13:09.190
active duty guys and say hey I’m doing
0:13:07.750,0:13:10.010
this I’m getting paid I’ll share a
0:13:09.190,0:13:12.260
little bit with you
0:13:10.010,0:13:14.180
model vodka whatever tell me what you
0:13:12.260,0:13:17.260
got on trunk that’s dirt on Trump so
0:13:14.180,0:13:20.330
that gave Russian intelligence a
0:13:17.260,0:13:22.600
pipeline to then feed whatever they
0:13:20.330,0:13:24.770
wanted disinformation misinformation
0:13:22.600,0:13:26.300
truth whatever they thought they had
0:13:24.770,0:13:28.340
there was no truth involved in this but
0:13:26.300,0:13:30.440
in whatever information they wanted to
0:13:28.340,0:13:34.130
put into a pipeline to give to their
0:13:30.440,0:13:35.570
retired SVR KGB guys to them give to
0:13:34.130,0:13:38.690
steal that would then be fed back into
0:13:35.570,0:13:41.740
the if yeah they had an absolute
0:13:38.690,0:13:44.090
pipeline I mean that is in fact
0:13:41.740,0:13:45.860
cooperation between the Hillary Clinton
0:13:44.090,0:13:47.960
a long chain of events but it was
0:13:45.860,0:13:50.960
between Hillary Clinton and her campaign
0:13:47.960,0:13:53.210
and Russian intelligence and that’s the
0:13:50.960,0:13:54.680
only collusion that anyone knows up to
0:13:53.210,0:13:57.920
this point that seems to be actually
0:13:54.680,0:14:00.530
true back actual now she may not have
0:13:57.920,0:14:02.570
known that that was that the chain of
0:14:00.530,0:14:03.740
connecting events that led to this
0:14:02.570,0:14:05.660
getting information and wouldn’t have
0:14:03.740,0:14:07.460
cared I can see where she would not have
0:14:05.660,0:14:09.800
known and it wouldn’t have mattered to
0:14:07.460,0:14:11.720
her but nevertheless she paid for it to
0:14:09.800,0:14:13.970
happen and and understood they were
0:14:11.720,0:14:16.010
getting dirt on on Trump we’re trying to
0:14:13.970,0:14:17.810
get dirt on trove so that’s that’s that
0:14:16.010,0:14:20.600
chain of connection of how those things
0:14:17.810,0:14:22.490
are all linked now steel gets the
0:14:20.600,0:14:25.730
information then feeds it back into the
0:14:22.490,0:14:28.820
United States FBI and CIA now as I was I
0:14:25.730,0:14:30.290
was just starting to talk about AG bar
0:14:28.820,0:14:32.840
has said one of the people there being
0:14:30.290,0:14:34.630
that are they’re looking at is the now
0:14:32.840,0:14:37.280
current director of the CIA
0:14:34.630,0:14:40.580
Gina Haskell Gina Haskell being a close
0:14:37.280,0:14:42.920
associate of John Brennan and she was
0:14:40.580,0:14:44.720
handpicked to go to London as chief of
0:14:42.920,0:14:46.910
station so if you put all these pieces
0:14:44.720,0:14:49.400
together now again one of the things
0:14:46.910,0:14:51.590
that that it’s Occam’s razor what is the
0:14:49.400,0:14:54.170
simplest explanation that fits the facts
0:14:51.590,0:14:56.660
that would be who would coordinate all
0:14:54.170,0:14:58.520
of these things now John Brennan would
0:14:56.660,0:15:00.650
have had been able to reach out to the
0:14:58.520,0:15:04.520
senior levels of the three intelligence
0:15:00.650,0:15:06.740
agencies in Italy and famously made
0:15:04.520,0:15:08.540
trips to Italy the reason we know this
0:15:06.740,0:15:11.630
because some of this was publicized on
0:15:08.540,0:15:14.570
another case completely unrelated to it
0:15:11.630,0:15:17.240
but there was a case of a woman who got
0:15:14.570,0:15:19.430
in some trouble left the agency but was
0:15:17.240,0:15:22.100
was I had a sealed indictment against
0:15:19.430,0:15:23.570
her from the Italian
0:15:22.100,0:15:25.490
government from their intelligence
0:15:23.570,0:15:28.760
services because of her involvement in a
0:15:25.490,0:15:31.430
rendition program so we know that during
0:15:28.760,0:15:33.260
this period of time John Brennan was
0:15:31.430,0:15:36.440
over there but refused to help that
0:15:33.260,0:15:37.910
woman and so but what was he talking
0:15:36.440,0:15:40.310
about the Italians now there’s a lot of
0:15:37.910,0:15:41.750
stuff but again it fits the facts during
0:15:40.310,0:15:44.210
that period of time he was dealing
0:15:41.750,0:15:47.000
directly with the Italians all the time
0:15:44.210,0:15:48.890
making personal travel over there and at
0:15:47.000,0:15:51.260
the same time you had Gina Haspel in
0:15:48.890,0:15:53.960
London as chief of station handpicked by
0:15:51.260,0:15:55.850
him who then after she left LAN and came
0:15:53.960,0:15:58.220
in back into the leadership levels and
0:15:55.850,0:16:00.320
was promoted up unfortunately appears by
0:15:58.220,0:16:02.420
my campaign now Secretary of State she
0:16:00.320,0:16:05.140
came in as deputy to Mike and then moved
0:16:02.420,0:16:08.000
up with Mike la
0:16:05.140,0:16:10.370
perfect sense as I recall in one of her
0:16:08.000,0:16:12.290
very very first interviews you talked
0:16:10.370,0:16:14.390
about her as the appointment to the head
0:16:12.290,0:16:15.880
of the CIA and that in fact there was
0:16:14.390,0:16:18.140
trouble down the road
0:16:15.880,0:16:20.150
absolutely this is something I mean I’ve
0:16:18.140,0:16:22.460
been you know pointing all of this out
0:16:20.150,0:16:24.140
I’ve written op eds and have gotten into
0:16:22.460,0:16:26.300
the Washington Times in different places
0:16:24.140,0:16:28.010
these interviews and I’ve been pointing
0:16:26.300,0:16:29.780
out for a year-and-a-half how old this
0:16:28.010,0:16:32.270
is he’s creating problems
0:16:29.780,0:16:35.480
slowly bubbling to the top and where
0:16:32.270,0:16:38.600
Gina Haskell’s loyalties lie and the
0:16:35.480,0:16:42.140
entire leadership of the CIA right now
0:16:38.600,0:16:45.560
as we sit are all john brennan acolytes
0:16:42.140,0:16:48.530
so it’s just as all of this is bubbling
0:16:45.560,0:16:50.180
to the top now in hindsight Gina Hass
0:16:48.530,0:16:53.330
was probably wondering why she didn’t
0:16:50.180,0:16:55.400
retire you know after becoming deputy
0:16:53.330,0:16:58.120
director and getting out because now the
0:16:55.400,0:17:00.680
fact that she is the director of the CIA
0:16:58.120,0:17:02.300
all this stuff is really gonna be late
0:17:00.680,0:17:05.240
at her doorstep and I would not be
0:17:02.300,0:17:06.620
surprised to see her really get into
0:17:05.240,0:17:08.959
some trouble with with this
0:17:06.620,0:17:11.270
investigation that the Attorney General
0:17:08.959,0:17:12.890
bar is running right now that is looking
0:17:11.270,0:17:15.110
at her I mean I just don’t see any way
0:17:12.890,0:17:17.060
around it because these pieces wouldn’t
0:17:15.110,0:17:20.240
have worked this way with Papadopoulos
0:17:17.060,0:17:24.079
the Italian service the Brits the steel
0:17:20.240,0:17:26.300
dossier all of this stopped in this big
0:17:24.079,0:17:27.890
stupid operation they put together and
0:17:26.300,0:17:29.510
it’s one of the things I’ve I’ve pointed
0:17:27.890,0:17:31.700
out about John Brennan if you
0:17:29.510,0:17:33.590
look at this operationally from a from
0:17:31.700,0:17:35.510
from a guy who’s done all of that stuff
0:17:33.590,0:17:38.120
as a you know for decades and really
0:17:35.510,0:17:39.760
knows those things I look at this thing
0:17:38.120,0:17:42.380
as an OP from strict operational
0:17:39.760,0:17:45.890
perspective you know human intelligence
0:17:42.380,0:17:48.200
operations and and if I were you know
0:17:45.890,0:17:48.650
John Brennan’s boss and he came to me
0:17:48.200,0:17:51.080
with this
0:17:48.650,0:17:52.549
this whole convoluted operation about
0:17:51.080,0:17:54.500
who’s gonna go here and get there and do
0:17:52.549,0:17:55.970
this to do all that and put this thing
0:17:54.500,0:17:57.890
together I mean not smacking alongside
0:17:55.970,0:18:00.350
the head this is this is a stupid
0:17:57.890,0:18:02.960
operation but it’s typical of what John
0:18:00.350,0:18:06.049
Brennan would have viewed as brilliant
0:18:02.960,0:18:09.230
he was an analyst failed at the agency
0:18:06.049,0:18:11.030
was sidelined out came back you know was
0:18:09.230,0:18:12.890
an apparatchik and the democratic party
0:18:11.030,0:18:15.169
came back under previous director George
0:18:12.890,0:18:17.510
Tenet tenets as an apparatchik an
0:18:15.169,0:18:20.150
administrative guy and was then rewarded
0:18:17.510,0:18:21.830
for all of this party loyalty and made a
0:18:20.150,0:18:23.750
senior guy and eventually directed the
0:18:21.830,0:18:25.130
CIA so a guy with very little
0:18:23.750,0:18:26.660
operational training very little
0:18:25.130,0:18:28.400
operational experience he was a chief of
0:18:26.660,0:18:30.049
station but in a place where they
0:18:28.400,0:18:31.400
weren’t running tons of operations so
0:18:30.049,0:18:33.710
he’s never really had any background in
0:18:31.400,0:18:36.140
it and if you look back at the time you
0:18:33.710,0:18:38.270
hear all of the Democrats in power
0:18:36.140,0:18:40.520
calling John Brennan the brilliant
0:18:38.270,0:18:42.590
mastermind and don’t screw with him you
0:18:40.520,0:18:44.600
know he’s too smart to mess with and he
0:18:42.590,0:18:47.179
will mess you up and all of that it all
0:18:44.600,0:18:49.520
fits the pieces because they knew that
0:18:47.179,0:18:51.770
this operation this plan had been put
0:18:49.520,0:18:54.410
together by John Brennan in my opinion
0:18:51.770,0:18:56.419
so I think all of this are you’re now
0:18:54.410,0:18:59.480
seeing these different bits and pieces
0:18:56.419,0:19:01.280
of this one operation probably
0:18:59.480,0:19:03.890
masterminded by John Brennan who’s now
0:19:01.280,0:19:06.799
moved to try and bring john clapper in
0:19:03.890,0:19:08.179
with a Jim clapper in with it and the
0:19:06.799,0:19:11.299
former Director of National Security
0:19:08.179,0:19:12.860
Council and protect him because he knows
0:19:11.299,0:19:16.280
that’s kind of the weak link to this and
0:19:12.860,0:19:18.200
what you’ve seen is all of the breakup
0:19:16.280,0:19:19.820
of the former Obama officials starting
0:19:18.200,0:19:22.580
to point fingers at each other
0:19:19.820,0:19:25.490
specifically now you’ve seen Jim Comey
0:19:22.580,0:19:27.350
and John Brennan start to go like this
0:19:25.490,0:19:29.720
at each other and say oh no no no no
0:19:27.350,0:19:32.390
that you know this this steel dossier
0:19:29.720,0:19:35.179
was commies idea to put it in there but
0:19:32.390,0:19:37.909
Comey probably that these emails have
0:19:35.179,0:19:39.710
been leaked that it shows where John
0:19:37.909,0:19:41.680
Brennan was saying that the steel
0:19:39.710,0:19:45.190
dossier was the crown dock
0:19:41.680,0:19:47.380
now in analyst terms that’s very
0:19:45.190,0:19:50.200
specific and important that means this
0:19:47.380,0:19:53.050
is the central document that proves
0:19:50.200,0:19:55.390
everything else and is it and everything
0:19:53.050,0:19:56.770
else leads to it it’s the Nexus of the
0:19:55.390,0:19:58.750
information out there that we’re putting
0:19:56.770,0:20:01.120
forward that’s the crown document so
0:19:58.750,0:20:03.670
Brennan is arguing that this crown
0:20:01.120,0:20:06.340
document the steel dossier has to be
0:20:03.670,0:20:08.440
used and pumped into the system by by
0:20:06.340,0:20:10.750
combing now what’s left unsaid is
0:20:08.440,0:20:12.670
otherwise the plan won’t work right
0:20:10.750,0:20:14.140
that’s the email this is the crown
0:20:12.670,0:20:17.980
document it has to be included
0:20:14.140,0:20:19.660
well why okay why again like I said for
0:20:17.980,0:20:21.310
an intelligence guy reading this this is
0:20:19.660,0:20:23.110
very significant to me it’s clear to me
0:20:21.310,0:20:24.940
that’s why this whole thing has been
0:20:23.110,0:20:26.320
clear from the beginning as as we’ve
0:20:24.940,0:20:29.110
been talking about it over the last year
0:20:26.320,0:20:31.780
and a half because it’s my what I read
0:20:29.110,0:20:33.880
and butter for me and that is it’s it’s
0:20:31.780,0:20:35.440
the unstated portion of this is the
0:20:33.880,0:20:37.510
crown on document has to be included
0:20:35.440,0:20:39.580
because otherwise the plans not going to
0:20:37.510,0:20:41.650
work that has to be included to make all
0:20:39.580,0:20:43.210
those other pieces fit everything that
0:20:41.650,0:20:44.890
the Italians were working on that
0:20:43.210,0:20:47.620
they’ve gotten from the bridge that they
0:20:44.890,0:20:49.210
got from steel the dossier how it’s
0:20:47.620,0:20:51.520
going to be put together get the FISA
0:20:49.210,0:20:53.770
warrant all of this big convoluted plan
0:20:51.520,0:20:55.780
otherwise falls apart that’s a critical
0:20:53.770,0:20:59.650
piece it has to be included and why
0:20:55.780,0:21:02.200
because if once it’s included then the
0:20:59.650,0:21:03.850
president has been briefed the steel
0:21:02.200,0:21:07.690
dossier had been around for at least six
0:21:03.850,0:21:10.420
months and that was you know what had
0:21:07.690,0:21:12.490
been given to the FBI many many months
0:21:10.420,0:21:13.690
before but that nobody was able to do
0:21:12.490,0:21:15.580
anything with it within the news
0:21:13.690,0:21:17.500
organizations because it’s just some
0:21:15.580,0:21:19.600
made up piece of paper you know I could
0:21:17.500,0:21:21.940
sit down and write up you know steel
0:21:19.600,0:21:23.230
dossier part two and hand it out but you
0:21:21.940,0:21:25.660
know it’s not news or anything that
0:21:23.230,0:21:28.090
anyone can do anything with until it’s
0:21:25.660,0:21:30.370
briefed to the president once James
0:21:28.090,0:21:32.530
Comey briefed it to the president he
0:21:30.370,0:21:35.350
calls and these transcripts have come
0:21:32.530,0:21:38.080
out of the messages of come out he calls
0:21:35.350,0:21:40.570
Jim clapper Jim clapper goes to the
0:21:38.080,0:21:41.830
press and says okay this is the steel
0:21:40.570,0:21:44.110
dossier has been briefed to the
0:21:41.830,0:21:46.180
president and boom all of its public and
0:21:44.110,0:21:49.660
everything it’s on its way and as John
0:21:46.180,0:21:52.300
Brennan says then it’s predicated
0:21:49.660,0:21:55.930
so that’s this whole thing and fighting
0:21:52.300,0:21:59.160
all these roads everything always lead
0:21:55.930,0:22:01.600
back John Graunt so just to clarify
0:21:59.160,0:22:03.130
James Comey it’s the guy that dresses
0:22:01.600,0:22:05.590
like the curtains at the White House is
0:22:03.130,0:22:07.000
that right yeah yeah he was one that
0:22:05.590,0:22:09.760
stands in the back of the curtains in
0:22:07.000,0:22:11.740
was his biz his big criticism of a
0:22:09.760,0:22:14.200
president Trampas that presidents
0:22:11.740,0:22:16.180
Trump’s Trump’s tie was too long which
0:22:14.200,0:22:17.860
you know and sometimes he does wear that
0:22:16.180,0:22:19.960
tight little long I’ll have to I have to
0:22:17.860,0:22:21.670
give Co me at least half credit on that
0:22:19.960,0:22:24.040
one but on the other hand you know so
0:22:21.670,0:22:26.710
freakin what it’s you know it’s not
0:22:24.040,0:22:28.330
criminal to to even not wear a tie at
0:22:26.710,0:22:29.650
all you know I have one on right now and
0:22:28.330,0:22:33.520
mine’s not too long it’s the right
0:22:29.650,0:22:35.290
length so I just wanted a fact check
0:22:33.520,0:22:37.960
that I mean I thought that was an
0:22:35.290,0:22:40.710
extraordinary story that the director is
0:22:37.960,0:22:42.970
a director of the FBI head of the FBI
0:22:40.710,0:22:45.070
would deliberately dress like the
0:22:42.970,0:22:47.770
curtains delay us in order not to be
0:22:45.070,0:22:49.600
noticed because I guess he was afraid of
0:22:47.770,0:22:51.010
being picked off for all the stuff he
0:22:49.600,0:22:53.590
was doing I don’t know but it was a
0:22:51.010,0:22:56.530
mighty strange a mighty strange thing to
0:22:53.590,0:22:59.020
do I thought call me is a very very odd
0:22:56.530,0:23:01.180
guy and it’s come out back in a 2003
0:22:59.020,0:23:04.900
interview something that I find
0:23:01.180,0:23:07.750
fascinating is that he had made a
0:23:04.900,0:23:09.820
comment that he was actually a communist
0:23:07.750,0:23:11.860
now I don’t know that he went into
0:23:09.820,0:23:13.480
tremendous detail on this interview but
0:23:11.860,0:23:15.160
was saying that he was part of a like a
0:23:13.480,0:23:17.260
member of the Communist Party voting for
0:23:15.160,0:23:18.930
the communists back in 2000 you know at
0:23:17.260,0:23:21.670
some time prior to 2003
0:23:18.930,0:23:23.950
apparently in his youth which is
0:23:21.670,0:23:25.870
interesting that that is something that
0:23:23.950,0:23:29.110
he shared in common with John Brennan
0:23:25.870,0:23:31.450
who also publicly has commented there
0:23:29.110,0:23:36.160
stated that he voted for Gus Hall the
0:23:31.450,0:23:37.900
Communist Party member or a party the
0:23:36.160,0:23:39.730
guy running for president for the
0:23:37.900,0:23:41.890
Communist Party of the United States so
0:23:39.730,0:23:43.900
you buy and so he voted communist at
0:23:41.890,0:23:44.470
some point which for me if you’re voting
0:23:43.900,0:23:46.000
Tonia
0:23:44.470,0:23:48.390
you know you’re hip so facto you’re a
0:23:46.000,0:23:51.010
communist so a very interesting
0:23:48.390,0:23:53.320
coincidence between those two that that
0:23:51.010,0:23:56.590
I find particularly suspicious I think
0:23:53.320,0:23:59.450
they’re leaning towards what we’ve kind
0:23:56.590,0:24:01.669
of it’s drifted away as a name
0:23:59.450,0:24:03.110
the the socialist international is still
0:24:01.669,0:24:04.820
something out there that’s big and I
0:24:03.110,0:24:07.309
think these guys all would have viewed
0:24:04.820,0:24:09.590
themselves as fellow travelers the
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socialist international which leads us
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back to the Italians and the Russians
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and certain people within the British
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government which is strongly socialist
0:24:16.399,0:24:21.470
and in many areas of the of the
0:24:18.470,0:24:22.700
government back in the UK now so it
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would have been something that again
0:24:22.700,0:24:27.019
within that context it makes perfect
0:24:24.769,0:24:28.820
sense that these guys were doing this
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sort of stuff and being involved because
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they would have like I said they would
0:24:30.289,0:24:32.990
have viewed themselves as fellow
0:24:31.370,0:24:34.519
travelers with all these other people
0:24:32.990,0:24:36.409
that were helping him in this and it
0:24:34.519,0:24:38.179
would have had shared goals and they
0:24:36.409,0:24:40.340
would have all been you know the
0:24:38.179,0:24:44.570
socialist international is very anti
0:24:40.340,0:24:46.179
President Trump which you know it’s just
0:24:44.570,0:24:48.289
it’s they would have been likely
0:24:46.179,0:24:50.929
collaborators for this type of operation
0:24:48.289,0:24:53.840
so it’s really you know it’s a very
0:24:50.929,0:24:56.419
complex huge mass of moving parts and
0:24:53.840,0:24:59.629
stuff but it’s starting to fray at the
0:24:56.419,0:25:01.730
ages edges rather and you’re going to
0:24:59.629,0:25:03.350
see a break in the case for this sort of
0:25:01.730,0:25:05.750
stuff it’s just it’s going to happen
0:25:03.350,0:25:08.690
because these guys I’ve said this many
0:25:05.750,0:25:10.580
times but you know James coming would do
0:25:08.690,0:25:12.679
poorly in jail on John Brennan would do
0:25:10.580,0:25:14.870
poorly in jail Jim clapper all of these
0:25:12.679,0:25:16.879
people in the in the in the former DOJ
0:25:14.870,0:25:20.059
Justice FBI these are not the guys that
0:25:16.879,0:25:21.769
can go to jail and then and and do their
0:25:20.059,0:25:24.289
time peacefully it’s just not gonna work
0:25:21.769,0:25:27.190
so they recognize and they’re not built
0:25:24.289,0:25:29.779
to stand up to that sort of thing so
0:25:27.190,0:25:31.639
they’re going to be very interested in
0:25:29.779,0:25:34.159
minimizing any jail time or any legal
0:25:31.639,0:25:36.320
problems they have plus I mean the
0:25:34.159,0:25:38.179
expense of those sorts of things so it’s
0:25:36.320,0:25:40.240
very interesting how this is unfolding
0:25:38.179,0:25:42.950
you’re going to see Attorney General bar
0:25:40.240,0:25:44.779
Donna’s eyes and crosses T’s and just go
0:25:42.950,0:25:46.370
down the but where were these
0:25:44.779,0:25:49.850
misinformation freaks
0:25:46.370,0:25:51.889
start to see that that happened now
0:25:49.850,0:25:55.039
these transcripts that are apparently
0:25:51.889,0:25:56.659
out there on the with Papadopoulos and
0:25:55.039,0:25:58.730
all of that it’s it’s there’s there’s
0:25:56.659,0:26:01.429
paperwork on it so it’s a big deal it’s
0:25:58.730,0:26:03.799
interesting well yeah I think we should
0:26:01.429,0:26:06.049
we should pick this up again as some
0:26:03.799,0:26:09.789
other real events happen I mean I
0:26:06.049,0:26:12.669
definitely think it’s worth watching
0:26:09.789,0:26:14.590
both Hannity and Tucker as they kind of
0:26:12.669,0:26:17.739
interview all these different key
0:26:14.590,0:26:19.269
Republicans about the minutiae of what
0:26:17.739,0:26:21.129
is being discussed and what documents
0:26:19.269,0:26:22.720
are Declassified I mean if you want to
0:26:21.129,0:26:24.970
have a really solid understanding but
0:26:22.720,0:26:27.700
from from where I sit which is outside
0:26:24.970,0:26:30.129
the United States I like to see actual
0:26:27.700,0:26:35.289
things taking place which means that
0:26:30.129,0:26:37.899
there is finally going to be a real look
0:26:35.289,0:26:40.659
with consequences at what these people
0:26:37.899,0:26:42.970
are doing and this these these Italian
0:26:40.659,0:26:45.519
arrests look to me like it’s the first
0:26:42.970,0:26:47.200
domino to fall in terms of act actions
0:26:45.519,0:26:49.269
and thank you very much for that
0:26:47.200,0:26:52.919
analysis of it let’s do this again
0:26:49.269,0:26:55.330
as soon as more stuff actually happens
0:26:52.919,0:26:57.399
there will be stuff happening soon so
0:26:55.330,0:26:59.999
yeah we’ll be back at this fairly fairly
0:26:57.399,0:26:59.999
near future
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