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01:40
and agate easy evening everyone Chris
01:42
McDonald with another special Mack files
01:45
broadcast hourly more special we’re very
01:47
honored tonight Nvidia buddy Brad
01:48
Johnson back with this former CIA
01:50
operative and a dear friend of the Mack
01:53
files and Christopher McDonald and the
01:55
caretaker for Elvis Presley which we
01:57
will not get into too much tonight we
02:00
won’t give them too much jazz about that
02:01
but we’re glad to have him on this
02:03
Tuesday night mr. Johnson how are you
02:04
sir Christian it’s great to be back with
02:10
you and I want to just give right a
02:12
little shout out tonight we’re not sure
02:14
when it’s gonna happen but Brad wrote an
02:16
article I guess you you’re still writing
02:18
for The Epoch Times is that right or you
02:21
got an Intel reformed org but you wrote
02:24
an article and we’re gonna talk a little
02:25
bit about that tonight but it got caught
02:26
by the national media and I mean we may
02:29
never see Brad Johnson again tonight I
02:31
mean his price they may be so high that
02:34
I’ll never be able to get it back on the
02:35
show again so we’re gonna we’re gonna
02:37
drain him of every every ounce of energy
02:40
we’ve got in with him tonight before
02:43
this is over no seriously it’s
02:46
congratulation to hope I hope that all
02:47
this works out with you with the
02:48
national network and Brad I want you to
02:51
tell everybody a little bit about why
02:52
they contacted you because it’s a very
02:54
important article as a relation national
02:56
security and tell us a little bit about
02:58
that and then we’ll we’ll get into what
03:00
I really brought you on for tonight talk
03:01
about okay yes in this particular case
03:05
the was with American military news and
03:09
that’s woke up and essentially what I
03:12
wrote about was the five eyes it
03:17
Alliance is an Intelligence Sharing
03:20
alliance between New Zealand Australia
03:22
Canada the United States and what I
03:26
forget can destroy at New Zealand and
03:30
England and so those are the five
03:33
countries that then have this
03:35
Intelligence Sharing program and what
03:38
happened is in Canada the man who was
03:42
the head of that program and in Canada
03:44
the intelligence they don’t have like an
03:46
FBI and a CIA they’re completely
03:47
separate they’re more like the old KGB
03:50
used to be in there
03:52
into one organization that happens to be
03:54
the RCMP the Royal Canadian Mounted
03:56
Police so the head the director of the
03:59
Royal Canadian Mounted Police is it’s a
04:01
law enforcement federal law enforcement
04:04
service as is the FBI and similar to the
04:08
FBI underneath that is a division and
04:13
the division within the FBI is the
04:16
counterintelligence division which is
04:18
basically essentially supposed to be
04:20
made for domestic issues within the
04:22
United States and the CIA for foreign
04:25
issues out overseas but in the case of
04:28
the Canadians that’s all combined into
04:30
one and the director of that
04:32
intelligence service which is a position
04:35
underneath the director of the RCMP but
04:38
that the the guy who’s in charge of that
04:41
is the one that’s in charge of all of
04:43
their both domestic and foreign
04:44
intelligence efforts and of course he’s
04:48
the boss of intelligence issues so he
04:50
sees everything that comes in and that
04:53
man was as it turns out arrested and
04:57
charged with espionage for working for
04:59
the Chinese and some of the charges go
05:02
back to 2017
05:04
excuse me 2015 you think so
05:08
he came became director and was director
05:11
of their intelligence service for about
05:12
two years so and before that during that
05:16
period when he at least by 2015
05:19
apparently he was working for the
05:21
Chinese it could have been before but
05:24
what the evidence that they’ve uncovered
05:25
is takes them back to 2015 so for for
05:30
five years he was working for the
05:31
Chinese perhaps more and he was the head
05:35
of their service so you know everything
05:37
they were doing domestically any
05:39
anything like where they had a
05:40
counterintelligence case like the
05:42
Chinese were doing something else in
05:44
Canada he would have known about it that
05:47
they were working against it anything
05:49
that they did over seeds where they had
05:51
their officers posted overseas someplace
05:54
he had access to all that information so
05:57
basically he gave him everything he got
06:00
on Canada both domestic and foreign and
06:03
as the director of this program and you
06:06
know the head of their fusion center for
06:08
intelligence everything he got from five
06:11
eyes which is those again he would have
06:13
gotten intelligence on a daily basis and
06:16
some fairly sophisticated highly
06:19
classified things from those other four
06:21
countries England the United States
06:24
Australia New Zealand so it is a
06:27
disaster beyond belief I’m not sure that
06:30
that even some of the big cases that we
06:34
had were Rick Ames for example who was
06:37
an employee of the CIA who’s now sitting
06:39
in jail still but I think this is a far
06:42
larger disaster than that was so excuse
06:46
me
06:47
so this is a big big deal now of course
06:50
in Canada this isn’t the first time back
06:53
in I believe it was 2018 they’d had
06:56
another problem just like this and were
06:58
called out on the carpet by the other
07:01
members of the five eyes and said look
07:02
get your act together or we’re dropping
07:04
you you know you’re too risky you’ve got
07:06
to firm up your security procedures
07:09
around your people and then of course
07:10
there was the case of their level 4 lab
07:14
in Winnipeg that was penetrated by none
07:17
other than those those devious Chinese
07:20
intelligence officers and there was this
07:21
woman and her husband that were
07:24
essentially the head of a department
07:25
they’re working on viruses and they were
07:29
linked back to the rule hand lab and
07:31
when China over for lab and so they were
07:35
eventually kicked out of the country now
07:37
of course the Canadian Prime Minister
07:39
Trudeau is doing everything he can to
07:42
minimize this because Lucas has been a
07:44
big big big big deal and really just a
07:47
complete debacle
07:48
so he’s minimizing all of these things
07:51
as much as you can and you know I think
07:55
everybody recognizes the mainstream
07:58
media here in the United States it’s
07:59
just very friendly to communist leftist
08:02
regimes and so you just don’t see them
08:04
really come out and point these types of
08:06
things out and criticize but it’s just
08:08
it’s just the fact that this is what
08:10
happened there is no doubt the man is
08:12
arrested and in jail now in Canada
08:16
and you know he’s the trial process is
08:19
continuing it’s not over yet but he got
08:22
caught there was a criminal case that
08:25
came up and some information that they
08:28
found in this criminal case that had
08:30
been leaked out it probably lost you
08:39
sound they were able to determine that
08:45
someone in the United States had or that
08:49
someone in Canada had been leaking this
08:50
information they found at the United
08:52
States and then they joined up with
08:54
Canada and they will jointly and silly
08:58
enough they were to joining with the
08:59
RCMP which is the source of the leak but
09:02
of course they knew that so they were
09:03
working with the counterespionage
09:05
portion of the RCMP they very quickly
09:09
identified this guy and within six
09:11
months of identifying him he was
09:14
arrested so you know God you know
09:18
whatever just a debacle of the
09:20
importance of this is is really it was a
09:25
major major major coup for the Chinese
09:28
and a major disaster for Canada and a
09:31
very big disaster for the rest of the
09:34
five eyes alliance so that’s what
09:38
happened that was the the gist of the of
09:41
the op-ed that I that I published and
09:44
and and it just just one of the details
09:46
of this this debacle that took place and
09:50
you know like I said this is something
09:53
that’s hit the news just a little bit
09:54
yeah that’s it
09:56
nobody’s talking about about he’s
09:57
talking about it exactly exactly
09:59
well I’m gonna just tell her Mac Falls
10:01
audience tonight folks you’re getting I
10:02
mean Brad has not been owned anywhere
10:04
but here and not you know the op-ed
10:06
itself but we’re really the first outlet
10:10
as far as broadcasting this that’s
10:12
hearing about this tonight I hope and
10:14
Brad I got a three questions for you and
10:17
they’re all tied together rules it’s a
10:19
real simple question here
10:22
what’s the ramifications for this for
10:25
Canada the deep ramifications wasn’t
10:27
ramifications for us here at America
10:30
and how could the Canadian intelligence
10:33
people be so Daffy not to understand
10:37
that their their information was going
10:39
to the Chinese because it seems to me an
10:40
even some of the comments from the chat
10:42
room already
10:43
Trudeau’s always been friendly to the
10:45
Chinese you know he’s always been one of
10:46
these you know wusses that just lays
10:49
down in public opinion and everybody’s
10:51
got to get along and you Chinese can do
10:53
whatever you want to well that but I’d
10:55
say what they had no wonder they can do
10:57
anything they wanted to Canada because
10:59
they freaking been listening to
11:00
everything they frickin been doing since
11:03
2015 thanks to the RCMP guy
11:06
what’s the ramifications of all this
11:08
long-term its major to me it is it’s
11:12
extremely important and frankly I’m
11:14
surprised that Canada hasn’t been
11:16
dropped from the five eyes program they
11:17
need to be now of course I don’t know
11:19
this I don’t have access to what’s going
11:21
on behind the scenes but I would be very
11:23
surprised to learn that Canada’s
11:26
participation if they had not been
11:30
downgraded somewhat on their
11:32
participation just because of the risk
11:34
there but basically everybody else is
11:38
doing a damage assessment knowing that
11:40
everything that they gave to Canada
11:43
ended up in the hands of the Chinese and
11:45
let me say one of the things that’s very
11:47
important out of this the Chinese issued
11:50
Cove comm which is covert communications
11:54
a device there’s no details on it yet so
11:57
I don’t know anything about the device
11:58
itself only that there is one and so
12:02
that means is by Chinese standards
12:04
because those devices are highly
12:06
classified and you don’t want them to
12:08
get out because that’s how you
12:10
communicate secretly with your very best
12:13
agents and so the fact that he was
12:15
issued one one means that he was deeply
12:19
trusted by the Chinese or they would
12:20
have given it to him exactly and two it
12:23
means that the level of the information
12:25
that he was giving them was of such
12:27
great importance it was worth issuing it
12:30
to him so I mean it’s extremely
12:32
indicative and the only person by the
12:34
way that first of all that because of my
12:36
background I know that and so reporters
12:39
in
12:40
the press they just don’t know that
12:41
because that’s not their business they
12:44
you know there’s lots of other stuff
12:45
it’s just this is not their literate so
12:47
they’re not familiar with this but the
12:49
importance of that you you can’t
12:52
overstate it it just it’s it’s absolute
12:55
proof from the professional perspective
12:57
of just the importance that gave this
13:00
guy but it was a complete disaster
13:02
everything that Canada has in planning
13:04
everything that was approved and now
13:07
they have to go back and look at what
13:08
was turned down because if they had a
13:11
great program that was gonna do
13:12
something against the interests of the
13:14
Chinese bad guy accident and everything
13:17
that they’re doing has nothing to do
13:18
that it’s gonna work against the Chinese
13:20
or he wouldn’t have let it go forward so
13:22
they’ve got a disaster beyond belief
13:26
they’re going to be four or five years
13:29
three to five years let’s say to get
13:32
themselves back even because of the
13:35
years of damage done by this guy and of
13:38
course in the United States now I don’t
13:40
know on a day-to-day basis what was
13:41
shared with Canada but I I can certainly
13:43
say Canada is a close ally you know they
13:45
were getting good solid information so
13:48
you’re heading to my next question
13:50
have there been people killed out of
13:52
this who were spying for Australia or
13:57
Canada or New Zealand or the United
13:59
States or England I would say very
14:01
likely so this goes back to 2015 at
14:07
least but it could have been before it
14:09
could have been 2000 you know 12 over 10
14:12
or something we just don’t know and we
14:15
probably well I don’t know when the
14:16
court case comes out we’ll see if he if
14:19
he makes some sort of plea bargain deal
14:21
we will never know all the details which
14:23
of course is to the advantage of
14:26
intelligence so that’s probably going to
14:29
be what they’ll try to do but you know
14:33
just I just don’t think I think it’s
14:35
almost impossible to really get a solid
14:38
grasp on just how much damage was done I
14:41
think it’s really gonna be tough because
14:43
like I said how do you judge the damage
14:46
of programs that would have been
14:48
successful that this guy axed because he
14:52
knew it would do
14:53
to Chinese interests so how do you judge
14:55
the value or the damage then by those
14:57
sorts of things you know what could
14:59
haven’t been ours had not he stopped it
15:02
so it’s a very serious problem and
15:05
perhaps one of the greatest defeats
15:07
we’ve ever suffered I would say so
15:09
where does America fit into this did we
15:12
how did this guy get called uh what
15:14
happened did we do you think what is our
15:18
if you were sitting in the offices of
15:20
the intelligence agencies tonight and
15:22
they’re listening to this story and
15:23
they’re listening to what’s going on in
15:24
Canada does that not make them want to
15:26
look closer at what’s going on here that
15:28
possibly I’m not saying nothing is but
15:30
it’s got to give them a word that
15:32
there’s infiltrators and maybe in this
15:34
area right you know this may be off
15:38
subject a little business may go off the
15:39
rail a little bit what you just
15:41
described to me describes the Democrat
15:44
Party in this country I’m serious it
15:45
describes because everything that
15:47
President Trump is trying to do to keep
15:49
the Chinese from winning the trade
15:51
battle when in the intelligence battle
15:53
winning these battles every time the
15:55
Democrats turn around that they try to
15:56
derail it and I mean at some point you
15:59
have to ask yourself the question whose
16:01
hands are in whose pockets and what
16:04
interest are they pushing because what
16:07
you just described to me describe to our
16:08
Democrat Party down here in America and
16:10
I’m not saying there’s anything specific
16:12
that I know about but that’s my question
16:14
to you if you’re an American
16:16
intelligence agency officer tonight and
16:18
you’re listening to this story well how
16:20
do you feel about all this thing you
16:25
know pisses me off to no end you know
16:27
and it’s one of the reasons I founded
16:29
the organization Americans for
16:30
intelligence reform because I’d seen we
16:33
basically have destroyed so much of our
16:38
capability in the intelligence field and
16:40
you see other people stepping into that
16:42
void very aggressively particularly
16:44
China they’re not the only ones I can
16:47
meet a Russia and Turkey in other places
16:49
have also very aggressively stepped in
16:51
but the Chinese are room are real power
16:53
and there they’ve got professional
16:56
officers out there doing this and just
16:58
like quick overview from 10,000 feet
17:01
look at this there’s probably
17:05
half a dozen to eight six or eight cases
17:08
of died sitting in jail right now for
17:11
essentially spying for the Chinese yeah
17:13
and this is just in the last few years
17:15
and you know with stuff we’ve talked
17:17
about like that Harvard professor and so
17:19
on and in addition to that this thousand
17:24
talents program that the Chinese have
17:26
come up with that’s brilliantly done by
17:29
the Chinese against us
17:32
basically targets the the country of
17:34
China is targeting each of our 50 States
17:37
on a one-to-one basis so they’re not
17:40
attacking you know the federal
17:42
government they’re knocking state-level
17:44
home and that thousand talents program
17:47
as they call it is going into all of our
17:50
university systems and our research
17:52
institutes and just across the board so
17:57
anything they’re interested in they’re
17:59
getting in 2018 the FBI caught an arrest
18:04
and they had three cases now they
18:07
haven’t publicly said but these people
18:12
for spying for the eve of these sorts of
18:16
programs like that that books and
18:18
talents Chinese program they have based
18:23
on that warning the FBI only kind of
18:26
started to kick it in gear and since
18:28
2018 we’ve had a couple of dozen cases
18:31
and one of them just hit the press
18:33
yesterday or the day before but
18:35
essentially in the university systems
18:38
they’ve started looking and they’ve made
18:40
several more arrests of people that’s
18:42
where this Harvard professor got
18:44
arrested that’s how this was discovered
18:46
because the FBI started looking at it so
18:48
we’ve had another half a dozen or so
18:50
people arrested out of universities and
18:52
about two dozen people were either fired
18:55
or knew they were going to get fired so
18:58
they quit in live now what’s the defense
19:01
and here’s this comes back to your point
19:02
what we have or the debt is the
19:05
Democratic Party out there saying that
19:06
the theis these this policing of of
19:10
these Chinese spies is racism you know
19:12
the typical clarion call of the left its
19:14
racist I think you know how
19:17
the last year can be for God’s sake I
19:21
mean they just always say the same stuff
19:23
over and over no matter what it is so
19:25
the Chinese have been absolutely had an
19:28
hour lunch intelligence wise and now
19:31
something you and I have talked about
19:32
before I mean the the inroads they’re
19:37
making in our technical stuff
19:38
5g in the engineering world the science
19:42
world the all of this stuff with
19:44
research with these viruses and what
19:48
they’ve also done is now if you look
19:50
closely I I don’t want to mention their
19:51
name cuz I don’t wanna get sued but
19:53
there’s an institute that came out
19:55
that’s one of the big boys if you will
19:57
who is constantly saying all this stuff
20:01
about the luan virus coming out of that
20:03
lab as a lie
20:05
anything that it was that people saying
20:07
it’s an engineered are crazy people who
20:09
are saying this stuff and it’s just
20:11
baracy theory and there’s absolute proof
20:14
that you know this doesn’t isn’t the
20:16
case and it escaped down to that ret
20:18
market and all the stuff that people are
20:21
saying bad about the Chinese is a
20:22
bald-faced lie I looked at that
20:24
Institute I took a good close look at
20:26
them on their board of directors is a
20:29
Chinese mega rich donor who’s gone
20:33
they’re bored and those sorts of darks
20:36
the Chinese are regards don’t become
20:39
business leaders out skill and and are
20:42
separate from the Communist Party
20:44
they’re Communist Party members and by
20:46
Chinese law they’re required to
20:48
cooperate the Chinese intelligence that
20:51
guy has ratted means dollars to this
20:53
Institute and he’s running the show and
20:55
he usually doing him and that is being
20:57
controlled out of China so what are the
21:00
news that you see on the coronavirus out
21:03
of the American universities and
21:05
American Institute’s look closely at
21:08
those institutes and universities are
21:09
they’re wealthy Chinese businessmen on
21:12
the board are they bringing in millions
21:14
of dollars of grants to that Nike
21:15
University because if they are they not
21:18
control that means you can’t trust what
21:21
they’re saying they’re not giving you on
21:23
a scientific opinion they’re giving you
21:25
propaganda the
21:26
Chinese have decided that they have to
21:28
give you and that’s where we find
21:30
ourselves today
21:31
I mean it’s it’s just it’s a girl role
21:33
and and you one other little thing I’ll
21:36
mention just and it’s something you and
21:38
I have talked about on your show
21:39
although it’s been a very long time ago
21:41
only federal employees that were hacked
21:45
in the office of personal management OPM
21:48
hack that was done by that Chinese may
21:50
be what five or six years ago years ago
21:53
everyone who ever even applied for a
21:55
federal job everyone that is a federal
21:57
employee and everyone that’s retired as
21:59
a federal employee like myself they have
22:02
that information and they have a program
22:05
here in the United States
22:07
I guess it’s it’s kind of a harassment
22:09
and recruitment effort but for example I
22:12
and everybody I know that’s a federal
22:14
employee gets calls from the Chinese and
22:18
they’re speaking to you in Chinese now I
22:20
don’t speak Chinese so I don’t know what
22:21
they’re saying I had to ask
22:23
and so what I’m told that they’re saying
22:25
is come to the Chinese consulate we have
22:28
your package ready for you well you know
22:32
what is that yeah what if the effort so
22:36
they’re using this Office of Personnel
22:37
Management to call every federal
22:41
employee in the United States and invite
22:44
them to come into the Chinese consulate
22:46
to pick up their package and what are we
22:48
doing about it now and the answer to
22:50
that is not a damn thing nothing so
22:52
rough I I try to bring this public that
22:55
now to everyone’s attention every chance
22:56
I get why aren’t we doing something
22:58
about this but we’re not and I’m you
23:00
know I gotta say you know forgive me for
23:03
being a little bit rude but these guys
23:05
are in charge of this stuff and the
23:07
Intelligence Committee now are such
23:08
pussies I am so tired of that you know
23:11
he put me in charge for a year and I
23:15
guarantee you those Cheney’s would not
23:17
be paying any of that crap into them in
23:22
a box and the season with the preeminent
23:25
intelligence agencies in the world
23:31
nobody I put you up there but Brad
23:34
you’ve brought up a great point right
23:35
there why haven’t we done this and again
23:38
I’m just you know we sell it we just we
23:41
just humble southern boys down here we
23:42
just look at this as common sense things
23:44
and in every time we’ve had you on our
23:46
show I just when you say stuff like this
23:48
and tell me information like this I just
23:50
look at it from common sense and we know
23:52
we’ve known forever these Chinese are
23:54
not our friend but then you have to ask
23:57
yourself the other question is how deep
24:00
is their influence even here and how
24:04
easy as bad as that isn’t China I’m look
24:07
it you cannot understate what you just
24:10
said the damage that’s been done to the
24:13
Canadian government and the intelligence
24:14
agencies and all this has taken place
24:16
worldwide but my it just troubles me
24:20
more because I’m thinking to myself what
24:22
you just taking the consideration what
24:23
you just said about America and these
24:25
heads of agencies that are not really
24:27
aggressive in fighting back against this
24:30
counter moved by the Chinese at some
24:32
point Brad we’re gonna take the gloves
24:33
off buddy who got to realize that the
24:36
Chinese are not our friends
24:38
and it’s never was the Russians that
24:40
were trying to hack into our elections
24:41
half as much as it was this China
24:44
machine that has basically sent this
24:47
pandemic virus and shut down the whole
24:49
planet and something’s gonna have to be
24:51
done about that and soon how far off and
24:54
all that yes the political things on
24:59
this now I I take on tour Dianne
25:01
Feinstein senator from California by the
25:03
Fed so I mentioned some of these the
25:05
reason I do that is because as everyone
25:08
saw in the news she her office manager
25:12
and driver when she was out in
25:14
California was just the tiny for twenty
25:17
years she just the basic facts just what
25:21
we know for sure the guy was despite of
25:23
the Chinese for twenty years working for
25:24
her yeah her husband who’s an investment
25:28
capital investment guy their joint their
25:32
net their joint worth the money that
25:35
they have is in something like six or
25:37
seven hundred million dollars of which
25:40
more than half of that according to
25:43
their where they file is from doing
25:46
business with China now that Diane
25:49
Feinstein says in fairness let me you
25:51
know what she says is there was a
25:52
complete firewall between her duties as
25:55
Senator and her husband’s your money
26:00
making efforts where he does a lot of
26:02
business with China yeah okay I I
26:06
personally find that laughs yeah but
26:17
she’s also one of those people you know
26:18
all of the people on the intelligence
26:20
oversight committees got this briefing
26:22
early on and they were all told how the
26:24
stock market was going to tank well
26:27
coincidentally I went today because of
26:30
that fire we know this is a great
26:32
accident but Dianne Feinstein gets home
26:34
and all their stock those Republicans
26:40
and Democrats both who did this but
26:42
ladies and gentlemen I gotta say I think
26:45
that is the perfect example of who is
26:48
out there in politics in these senior
26:51
positions and the the man who on the
26:54
Republican side was the head of the
26:56
intelligence and in the Senate Burke
26:58
resigned from his position as head of
27:01
the Intelligence Committee now he’s
27:03
still senator but he’s just not the head
27:06
of that committee anymore the
27:07
intelligence Oversight Committee and it
27:09
was for that for selling off all his
27:11
stocks once he got that briefing so I
27:14
think that’s why for example my analysis
27:17
of it is that this this thing about a
27:20
firewall between Diana or husband all
27:22
this stuff is is a you know a laughable
27:26
fiction laughable idiot yeah nobody
27:31
cares I mean she’s not getting any
27:33
criticism for it you know she’s she’s
27:35
going to be reelected out in California
27:38
and I better say you know what why why
27:42
you Californians not care about
27:45
something so important I mean I I for
27:49
the Democrats they get very angry when
27:51
people question their loyalty the United
27:53
States
27:53
and so Republicans are afraid to do it
27:56
now vast majority of the Democrats not
28:01
currently I do the ones in leadership I
28:05
question their loyalty and their
28:06
patriotism to the United States of
28:08
America absolutely I do Brad look I
28:11
don’t pull no punches they’re all a
28:12
bunch of traitors and I’m gonna tell you
28:14
something it’s not as you said in all
28:16
affairs
28:16
it was burr and I you know you mentioned
28:19
him being off the Judiciary Committee
28:21
they served him with an FBI warrant here
28:23
about three days ago that’s the Dave
28:24
resigned from the chairmanship he may
28:26
not be senator Loffler down in Georgia a
28:28
the Republican appointee not the
28:31
Republican candidate that got elected
28:34
but Brian Kent’s little girlie friend
28:36
got stuck up there and it wasn’t too
28:38
much she’s in and she’s got caught up in
28:40
this and look these people like this
28:42
disgusts me
28:43
because you’re absolutely right about
28:44
this whenever you bring up oil tea to
28:47
the country they’re always telling us
28:49
and preaching us out here that we’re
28:50
just a bunch of racist xenophobic
28:52
paranoid schizophrenia Trump supporter
28:55
China hating foreigner hating immigrant
28:59
hating illegal hating illegal alien
29:01
hating people that’s what they tell us
29:03
that’s what their defense is about this
29:04
and then we find out stuff tonight we
29:07
and you brought up a you you couldn’t
29:08
have stated it better
29:10
what ninth Einstein’s connections are to
29:12
China and I look at this again in a
29:15
common sense matter Brad that’s a
29:18
traitor that is a traitor to this nation
29:20
and she has no business look if she was
29:22
a regular citizen I’d say she’s a
29:23
traitor
29:24
but this lady’s one of the
29:25
highest-ranking freaking members of the
29:26
Senate of the United States of America
29:29
is making policy every day every day and
29:33
if you started going back and looking at
29:35
with a policy that she’s making
29:37
there wouldn’t be hardly anything that
29:39
she’s done to stand up to this Chinese
29:41
machine and this Chinese threat to
29:43
America because her frickin chauffeur
29:46
driver turned out to be a Chinese spy I
29:49
guess that firewall just didn’t work too
29:51
good there did it Diane no and in fact
29:55
what Diane Feinstein senators Feinstein
29:57
said after this is over she fired the
30:00
guy which he
30:04
seems like yeah okay so she then comes
30:13
out says well he was out in California
30:15
he was her California staff and never
30:18
had access to classified information he
30:20
was never in Washington DC for her
30:22
okay well I personally would I you know
30:26
I questioned if that’s even true to
30:28
begin with because I suspect he would
30:30
have been out in DC from time to time it
30:32
would have been at her office when he’d
30:34
been out there and at you know downtown
30:36
in the Senate buildings but that aside
30:39
you know they find let’s say that’s true
30:42
this this dismissive attitude towards
30:46
the amount of damage that he could done
30:47
I’ve done even if he was out in
30:49
California as a complete myth I mean
30:58
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that case would have been a dream come
31:10
true
31:11
yeah and think of all the stuff you
31:13
could have done with that just one
31:16
example of a way to manipulate that this
31:19
guy out there in California that he knew
31:22
who all her donors were I he had to do
31:25
this we’ll arrange for some Chinese
31:27
oriented businessman you know could have
31:29
been a you know a Caucasian white guy
31:31
that did it but somebody doing business
31:33
with China
31:34
who’s China China says to him all right
31:38
go give $25,000 to the Feinstein
31:42
campaigning and make sure that your
31:44
nephew or niece goes to washington DC to
31:49
work on her staff now this guy on this
31:52
this spy for the chinese goes to Diana’s
31:55
day and hate on this guy wants to write
31:57
you a check for $25,000 but he wants his
32:01
you know nephew or niece who’s a Chinese
32:03
agent unbeknownst us to get a job in
32:07
your office in DC as an intern it could
32:09
be unpaid or whatever that person goes
32:11
there at that pipeline into her office
32:13
that person gets there starts working
32:15
gets real does really
32:17
gets offered a paid job or not once
32:21
you’re on the hill working that stuff is
32:23
all musical chairs they can go look at
32:25
some other senator’s office now how many
32:28
people went through that pipeline then
32:32
ended up working in senator Feinstein’s
32:34
or some other senator or congressman
32:35
office in washington DC how many well we
32:39
don’t know because nobody ever asked
32:41
that fricking question but if I were an
32:44
aged if I were the handler and this was
32:47
my agent and I was running this against
32:49
the Chinese and a 20 year period I’d run
32:52
everybody through that I could if I
32:54
could have hit 50 people through that
32:56
pipeline and had him spread out working
32:58
across the entire Senate and Congress I
33:01
would have done it and you know if I’m
33:04
sitting here thinking about all this
33:05
right now but like I said the Chinese
33:07
intelligence service they’re
33:09
professionals they think of all this
33:12
stuff they did stuff like that when we
33:16
did we don’t know because they just
33:19
fired the guy and he went away and
33:20
everybody said okay there’s nothing to
33:22
see here there’s no there there well you
33:24
know like I said from that crack haze
33:27
that probably makes sense but for the
33:29
rest of us you know it’s pathetic
33:33
and the diversification of all of the
33:35
people right you know I wish I were I’m
33:40
not even sure what position that the
33:42
dream D&I I mean I pitched a fit where
33:47
did this happen Brad where did the
33:48
Worcester physician call where did it
33:49
happen it was it was that one
33:51
administration had been a progressive
33:52
thing that’s gone sort of steady
33:54
downhill
33:55
has it been there’s there been a moment
33:57
that you’ve seen where things just was
34:00
going like this and then boom they just
34:01
took off and we leave we lost all sense
34:04
and by the way I will give you 10 bucks
34:07
I will literally wire you $10 to get on
34:09
that national network and use that crack
34:11
analogy on that I just want to see how
34:14
that national network when you start
34:16
saying that these people have spoken
34:17
crack please do that I will extend you
34:20
$10 you can do it on the back files and
34:25
get away with it I love it but but going
34:27
back to the wizard vacation good because
34:29
I’m late
34:30
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34:35
I’ll buy you dinner how about you know
34:37
Washington dinner I know it expensive
34:39
those are so I’ll make it
34:41
hey where did this happen though Brad I
34:44
mean let me explain why I’m asking that
34:45
I remember and this was at a time I
34:47
wasn’t even into this stuff i-i-i-i this
34:51
was a pipe dream this was never even
34:53
thought of in the back of my mind that
34:55
I’d be sitting here talking to Brad
34:56
Johnson in 2020 but it’s 1996 and I do
34:59
remember this and I remember the
35:01
election reelection of Bill Clinton and
35:03
it was at that moment that I think we
35:05
first became aware publicly at least at
35:08
least publicly a little bit of the
35:10
damage that the Chinese government had
35:12
done to our intelligence services
35:14
because of Al Gore because there were
35:17
rumors deep rumors that the Chinese had
35:21
influenced that election to try to get
35:24
clinton-gore reelected and it was
35:25
millions of dollars millions poured in
35:28
from illegal campaign contributions and
35:31
that was the infamous moment when Janet
35:33
Reno the late Janet Reno got on the
35:35
television and smugly looked into the
35:38
camera because people were asking her
35:40
are you going to investigate the vice
35:41
president and she says the buck stops
35:43
here and I haven’t seen nothing to be
35:45
any kind of criminal activity with the
35:47
gore campaign in this which we good well
35:49
damned though it was moving criminal
35:51
activity Brad my god they had their
35:53
hands so much up the Clintons pocket
35:54
that made Monica Lewinsky jealous of
35:56
Bill and I’m telling you right now I
35:59
think I’d go back to that moment in our
36:01
history and I’m not saying that wasn’t
36:03
presidents before Clinton that were in
36:05
the Chinese pockets I’m not even saying
36:07
that because I think it’s pretty evident
36:08
with the trade deals they were but it
36:11
just seemed that moment in time to me
36:13
was an earmark moment in this
36:15
intelligence issue to where we never got
36:18
it back because you know nobody ever
36:20
cared nobody ever went after that
36:21
aggressively there was one man that got
36:25
convicted in that and I think he spent
36:27
like five years in a federal country
36:29
club and at that amount and as you said
36:31
they wash their hands of it you never
36:33
heard of frontmen again and any time the
36:36
Damien thing that like that was brought
36:37
up nothing was really discussed about it
36:39
now I may be a little off but that’s
36:42
just my personal humble
36:44
when it may have started and went to
36:46
hell and back any thoughts on that when
36:48
did all this start how long has it been
36:50
going on yeah it’s a very large question
36:55
and following World War two these
37:00
problems began and that for example what
37:03
happened at State Department the US
37:05
Department of State that you know those
37:07
are the ones that run the embassies
37:08
overseas and the ambassadors are for the
37:10
State Department posted overseas they
37:13
became bureaucratized and they became a
37:16
bastion of the lab and the long been you
37:21
know 95% left-wing since that time and
37:25
that was sort of the I would say kind of
37:27
the camels nose under the tent flap
37:29
gotcha and that’s where it grew from
37:31
there okay and from that point on what
37:36
you then had happen and they would
37:37
slowly make inroads in these other areas
37:39
but when Jimmy Carter got elected what
37:44
he did was he brought he moved out a lot
37:47
of the people and and customs were
37:50
different in those days there was a lot
37:51
the lessons learned and the people in
37:53
the attitudes that were left over from
37:55
World War two were still around and
37:59
those people all got shunted aside and
38:02
Jimmy Carter started to bring in his own
38:04
people now he was only a one-term
38:06
president
38:06
thankfully so yeah it wasn’t worse but
38:09
many of those people that he brought in
38:11
at the lower levels were starting to get
38:13
up to the senior levels and under the
38:15
eight years of Clinton and don’t forget
38:17
like what did Janet Reno do there her
38:20
first day she fired all of us attorneys
38:23
but one AG the women and brought in her
38:24
own and fluid and then they started
38:27
trimming in all those positions down
38:28
below and in the intelligence agencies
38:31
was one of the very first things Jimmy
38:33
Carter did but in what was ever Turner
38:37
who who fired a couple of thousand
38:41
people and which did the CIA was quite a
38:45
small organization so that’s a major hit
38:48
and another couple thousand people
38:49
walked out the next door they said screw
38:51
this unwritten and so you had a 7,000
38:54
people leave at once now for a small
38:57
organization that that is something that
38:59
the CIA is as essentially never
39:02
recovered from and all of those people
39:04
that were moved in and it’s this thing I
39:07
talk about the pipeline to leadership
39:10
was taken over and that’s what’s
39:12
happened across all federal agencies all
39:15
of the intelligence community all over
39:18
this way and part of the only one where
39:21
you can see some fight and pushback and
39:23
all of that is in the military but even
39:25
their liberalism has as most of the
39:29
control but in all of the federal
39:32
agencies this is our words now to be
39:35
promoted that is carefully controlled by
39:38
regulations so that you know you can’t
39:40
have racism or whatever come into play
39:43
on who you decide to promote but all the
39:48
federal government is set up that in
39:49
order to be on the promotion list you
39:53
have to have had certain jobs and the
39:56
way they control the way to pipe the
39:58
pipeline to leadership is controlled is
40:01
because those guys only let their own
40:04
people get those jobs that put them in a
40:07
position to get promoted so they don’t
40:09
need to manipulate the promotion system
40:11
because they’re manipulating who gets
40:14
the jobs that allows those people be
40:16
promoted so if you’re conservative in
40:18
any federal agency ia FBI whatever it is
40:21
those guys are not going to get those
40:24
primo jobs that put them in a position
40:27
to be on the fast track to leadership
40:29
and that’s why you see guys like Peter
40:32
strong Peter strong was you know nutty I
40:35
mean just watching him on TV is facial
40:38
expressions and stuff use he was a
40:40
goofball and yet he was head of the CIA
40:44
division of the FBI I mean you have to
40:47
write your director deputy director and
40:49
then you have the two divisions criminal
40:51
and and intelligence that’s a big deal
40:54
that’s a senior guy and have somebody
40:57
like him play back Union even after he’s
40:59
fired and thrown out if he threatens to
41:01
sue to get his job back I mean he while
41:04
he should be worried about his littering
41:05
up warrior ring up to stand
41:12
you know stop with the crank already
41:16
start with the crack well that was the
41:20
bombshell we called this bar bombshell
41:23
and bread and that was the bombshell
41:24
tonight the brave wanted to come on I’m
41:26
gonna talk to about 15 more minutes then
41:28
we’re gonna take some questions from you
41:29
tonight right that’s deep stuff I want
41:31
you to follow this for us we’ll have you
41:34
back home
41:34
to give us an update whatever you find
41:37
out is this article on the Intel reform
41:39
dog web website that you’ve got is this
41:42
already open it’s on inter and the
41:46
publication was Americans for military
41:48
and I’m sorry now they’re gonna be mad
41:52
at me cuz I forgot the publication
41:54
website is the name of the the article
42:01
was published and I do have a copy of
42:03
American military that I bed in the
42:07
about five eyes is on the website too so
42:10
you can go check it out there well folks
42:11
you got it you got some deep stuff to
42:13
chew on tonight and I encourage you to
42:14
go back and read this article tonight
42:16
and it’s this is mind-blowing to me I
42:20
have to tell you I’m just I ain’t
42:22
shaking my head and I think the
42:23
Canadians are shaking their head tonight
42:24
I got to ask one question
42:26
it’s Trudeau this stupid or do you think
42:29
he’s a China puppet just your opinion
42:41
good answer yes
42:45
let me tell my attention to home-home
42:47
stuff and two guys have been in the news
42:50
this week bill maher came out Monday
42:51
just get your take on it basically came
42:55
out and said that he did not see that
42:58
where Barack Obama or Vice President
43:01
Biden would be prosecuted by John Durham
43:03
a lot of people got up in arms about it
43:06
and I took a deep breath over it I
43:08
believe that the real issue is not
43:10
Durham brat it’s Jon Jensen and Missouri
43:13
he’s got this case that he’s looking at
43:16
it’s not Durham Durham’s looking into
43:18
the Russia gay thigh sale abuse which
43:20
basically
43:21
on these mid-level creeps these
43:24
mid-level scumbags score page and call
43:26
me all that bunch
43:28
whereas what Jensen’s looking at is more
43:31
deeper what Obama knew and some of this
43:34
Russia and and when I’ve been told by
43:37
source that’s close to the DOJ this
43:40
al-baghdadi raid that they took over in
43:42
president Trump alluded to this he
43:44
actually called this raid out and he
43:45
said we got him and a lot of people took
43:48
that to mean that there’s a lot of
43:49
information that basically ties with
43:51
Barack Obama’s administration into
43:53
financing terrorist organizations across
43:55
this world now that remains to be seen
43:58
but will come out and what part will
43:59
know what parts true I guess it’s part
44:03
opinion question but I want to lean on
44:04
your intelligence also your CIA
44:07
knowledge of the past is it do you think
44:10
Barr was just sort of throwing the sin
44:12
off a little bit do you think that he
44:13
was just speaking that to make these
44:15
people sort of take a deep breath they
44:17
they’re not investigators so good deal
44:20
when in reality their backsides our
44:23
asses need to be puckering up because
44:25
something is about to come down hard and
44:27
heavy and it’s gonna hit him like a
44:29
brick what’s your thoughts on that well
44:33
US Attorney General Barbara Barr is
44:36
first and foremost a lawyer but he’s
44:38
also if you just look at his personality
44:40
he’s pretty direct guy and lawyers I
44:46
mean they’re they’re raised in this
44:49
environment of where the placement of a
44:52
comma can change the meaning of an
44:55
entire document and Act so we’re a
44:58
period is where the comma is every
45:01
little single piece of these documents
45:04
it has to be carefully prepared and
45:07
reviewed so it by their nature
45:11
especially somebody who’s been in it
45:13
that long and as senior as he has and
45:15
and you know the number of times he’s
45:17
been through these situations is very
45:21
meticulous so you can take what you have
45:25
to listen closely but you can take a G
45:28
bar as just like landed straight out to
45:31
everyone and for example his public
45:34
it was yeah Vice President Biden and
45:38
Obama and the previous administration
45:40
are free and clear they did nothing
45:41
wrong
45:42
that’s not what he said exactly right it
45:44
was I’m paraphrasing but it was what I
45:46
have in my hand today does not show that
45:51
there’s anything that that would lead me
45:54
to conclude that former Vice President
45:56
Biden or former President Obama should
45:57
be investigated okay that does it mean
46:01
that something is there no I don’t think
46:04
so
46:06
but I think it means that in bars mine
46:08
there is the possibility that further
46:11
investigations will reveal something
46:13
negative about them permanent so he’s
46:17
allowing that that exists but he’s not
46:21
saying it’s better he clearly said he
46:23
doesn’t have it
46:24
so I think that what he’s trying to do
46:27
is just be very precise I don’t have
46:28
anything like that okay they’re not
46:30
under in Criminal Investigation is there
46:33
something out there yeah I mean it could
46:34
be I don’t know I haven’t seen
46:36
everything yet so I think that’s it and
46:38
nothing more is what he’s trying to say
46:40
with those with those comments right in
46:43
your humble opinion and I and I trust
46:45
you and I and I trust your judgment on
46:47
this and that’s why I’ve always
46:48
respected about you guys you’re a
46:49
straight shooter and that’s how I am and
46:51
I just that’s what I love about you and
46:52
your humble opinion did Barack Obama
46:55
commit treason against this country
46:56
during is that yours presidency a second
47:00
place in your humble opinion do you
47:02
believe that Barack Obama committed
47:04
treason against the United States of
47:06
America with the stuff that he did as
47:08
president of this nation your humble
47:10
opinion just tough question you know I
47:14
guess the easy answer is that I’m not
47:16
sure I don’t know there are certainly
47:19
some things that I would like full
47:20
information on and I my first suspicion
47:24
my area of suspicion about what were up
47:26
and it was all of this stuff about the
47:30
Arab Spring and Muslim Brotherhood and
47:32
all of those things and you remember my
47:34
acquaintances out in California that was
47:37
found dead yes
47:39
supposedly of suicide bill how bad was
47:42
pointing out all of how this information
47:44
that was and all of our data banks about
47:46
the Muslim Brotherhood was deleted
47:48
and done away with now that to me is a
47:52
grave betrayal and I believe that the
47:56
grounds were set and the impetus to do
47:58
all of that was driven directly by
48:01
President Obama so if all that’s true
48:04
and the worst is true and certainly he
48:07
was funneling money to these guys to and
48:09
even to this day you have what the care
48:13
that Muslim extremist group that’s here
48:16
the United States they’re getting money
48:18
from State Department even now and those
48:22
programs are all begun under under Obama
48:24
now in fairness government being what it
48:26
is it takes a while to turn stuff off
48:29
changed around and becomes different it
48:31
takes time government is a big gigantic
48:34
bureaucracy that’s slow but I question
48:38
those things first and foremost of what
48:40
he did there if there’s anything that he
48:42
did clearly that approach is treason
48:45
then
48:47
I think that’s it okay second area would
48:50
be the oldest stuff with that was done
48:53
against targeting President Trump now
48:56
you and I went over the charges last
48:59
time we had this and the only person
49:01
actually that according to this
49:03
information that you had that is going
49:06
to be charged with treason was former
49:08
CIA director John Brennan John Brennan
49:09
the others were being charged with
49:11
attempting to overthrow the government
49:12
now I’m not sure how big that
49:15
distinction is between those two things
49:16
because they’re pretty similar in my
49:17
mind as a non-lawyer but certainly those
49:20
are grave now if Barack Obama President
49:24
Obama ordered all those things to be
49:26
done and I’m not saying he was made
49:29
aware of it I’m saying that if he
49:32
ordered all those things then that would
49:35
also be treason now I don’t think that’s
49:38
ever going to happen I don’t think
49:40
you’ll be charged with that I I don’t
49:42
think any of the people involved are
49:44
gonna are going to flip on Obama
49:47
I think they’ll you know they’ll make
49:50
the best deal that they can and they’ll
49:51
just kind of say well I don’t know what
49:54
Obama ordered or didn’t order I don’t
49:55
know this but it’s just my guess I don’t
49:58
think this is going to be a thing that
50:00
will go all the
50:01
to Barack Obama in the sense of a
50:04
criminal case I got where he’ll be
50:06
charged and convicted with anything
50:07
approaching trees okay I know Bobby’s
50:10
reputation is is already in the toilet
50:14
and I think is each one of these things
50:17
comes out and these indictments start
50:19
coming out for this Spicer thing and the
50:22
Flynn case and all of that as those
50:24
indictments start coming out and we
50:26
start going back and investigating one
50:28
of the stuff that took place the the
50:30
gun-running thing that they did on the
50:31
southern border where the guy got killed
50:36
Terry I think his name wasn’t what a
50:39
tragedy that was and I think that’s the
50:41
investigation of all that stuff starts
50:43
to come out I think his his reputation
50:45
will be fairly judged as as having been
50:51
probably the worst president the United
50:53
States has ever had I think that’s the
50:55
way it’s headed now does it go beyond
50:56
that it’s just such a tough uphill climb
51:00
your proof would have to be beyond
51:01
overwhelming to put a former president
51:04
United States in prison plus I have to
51:09
say I think president Trump would get
51:12
serious consideration to a pardon for
51:16
Obama if he was convicted and I think
51:19
the reason he would do that is and this
51:23
is you know it’s hard for me to say
51:25
because it’s not the type of thing I
51:27
like but it is not good for the United
51:30
States of America to have a former
51:31
President of the United States sitting
51:33
in jail that’s not the image we want to
51:35
present in the world it’s not a good
51:37
thing for us so if that were Trump’s
51:41
decision you know maybe if you want
51:44
those things I don’t particularly care
51:45
for but that I would have respect for I
51:48
understand that you kind of my take on
51:49
it so I get you I want to see a former
51:51
president I said sitting in jail
51:53
I don’t but we’ll see I like I said I
51:57
don’t think it’ll ever come to that
51:58
level well I’m with you and I and I
52:01
think it’s just bears out we all need to
52:03
just let this play out final segment
52:06
we’re talk to you about mr. John be John
52:08
Brennan your favorite CIA former
52:11
director he’s been out there running his
52:13
mouth
52:14
I always love these guys I tell you the
52:17
lawyers have got to have 1-800 suicide
52:19
watch on the speed I swear Fuzzy’s
52:23
attorneys I would say would you please
52:25
just shut the blank up I mean every time
52:27
y’all run your mouth on Twitter you just
52:30
thinking it’s so hard you know and you
52:32
know he’s been out here this week saying
52:33
up yeah please John Durham come see me I
52:36
want to talk to you I’ve got nothing to
52:37
hide here and III know that had to warm
52:41
your heart that the most treasonous to
52:43
me the most grievous crime committed
52:46
this whole sham John Brennan would even
52:49
remotely say something like that with a
52:51
straight face but he did and then he
52:53
also tried to join arms with Christopher
52:56
ray and tell ray hold strong against
53:00
this evil Donald Trump and everything
53:02
will work out don’t don’t give in to the
53:04
pressure well you heard all that mess
53:05
this week what was your thoughts on that
53:07
I you know this is I kind of circle back
53:14
to kind of my observations on John
53:17
Brennan and that is that he has known
53:20
all along
53:22
once this failed he knew all along that
53:25
he was headed for trouble
53:27
and I think all of this time he’s been
53:29
building his defense so that he can say
53:31
I mean he really doesn’t have a defense
53:33
she has to create one out of thin air
53:36
and I think his basic defense is going
53:38
to be that his targeting is political
53:41
not real and it’s and that he’s going to
53:45
be a political prisoner targeted because
53:48
of his political beliefs ed I think
53:51
that’s the defense he’s trying to build
53:54
Christopher may Christopher as somebody
53:57
said who so deeply over his head it’s
54:00
you know I almost feel sorry for him I
54:02
certainly he doesn’t warrant being in
54:04
that position he has directed FBI I’m
54:07
suspecting you know he won’t fulfill his
54:10
full 10 year term as director of the FBI
54:12
I may be wrong I don’t hear anybody
54:14
saying anything like that but just
54:16
looking at his kind of weak-kneed
54:19
approach to all of these things and his
54:21
logic is that he’s there to protect the
54:25
reputation the FBI and he thinks cover
54:27
not corruption he makes that in his mind
54:32
the same as protecting the reputation of
54:35
the FBI so which is exactly bass
54:39
ackwards I mean it’s it’s the opposite
54:41
you need to clean out the corruption put
54:44
it out in plain view for everybody to
54:46
see punish all those involved that’s how
54:49
you reestablish the reputation of the
54:51
FBI and it’s not this this spell
54:54
cover-up but I think he and many of
54:57
those people are hoping that Trump will
54:59
lose the next election and then it’s
55:01
clear sailing cram then he has no
55:03
problems he can just keep doing what
55:05
he’s doing which is essentially nothing
55:07
right and right I thought that’s where
55:11
it stands for this guy’s I think that he
55:13
and Brennan are probably kind of in some
55:14
ways natural allies I’m with you on that
55:17
Oh guys we got about five minutes and
55:20
again folks let me just say this in the
55:22
chatroom are some of the comments look
55:24
this is uh when Brad and I are talking
55:27
these are our opinions and you don’t
55:29
have to share them but I think it would
55:33
be wise to listen and not just stomp
55:36
your little feet on the ground and say
55:38
well the way I believe is the way it’s
55:39
supposed to be well look folks these are
55:42
so many moving parts and there’s so many
55:44
complications in this Brad Johnson is a
55:47
former CIA operative he has been in
55:49
countries all over this world and you
55:52
know he’s seen he is confronted evil and
55:55
all of his forms and this is a patriot
55:58
that you’re listening to the nine and
56:00
you need to understand that and folks
56:03
this nation right now Brad and I’ll let
56:05
you close this out a little bit here
56:06
we’re gonna take a few questions but you
56:08
know look our nation is hurt Brad wheat
56:10
we’re so splintered right now we’ve had
56:12
three and a half years of this
56:14
bombardment of this crap of this crap
56:17
and we’re seeking the justice we’re
56:20
seeking truth we’re seeking to find out
56:22
what happened and I think that’s really
56:24
ultimately all all of us really want we
56:26
just want to know the truth we just want
56:29
to know what’s happened and whoever
56:32
committed these crimes I don’t care if
56:34
it’s Barack Obama or the freaking
56:36
janitor at the White House but whoever
56:39
it was sold this country down the toilet
56:41
what
56:41
ever they did if it was treason trying
56:43
for treason if it’s not treason trying
56:46
for whatever they did but just I think
56:48
we’re all just screaming deep within our
56:51
soul tonight we just want to know the
56:53
truth and we want to have the hall
56:55
upheld and we want an equal justice
56:57
system that where me and Brad can sit on
57:00
down have a dinner at night and talk
57:02
about it and as we eat have this peace
57:05
in our heart that the same justice
57:07
system that you know affects me and you
57:09
will affect everybody in that cesspool
57:11
called Washington DC in the higher
57:14
echelons of government because when you
57:16
don’t have that buddy and you know this
57:18
you’ve been in other countries that are
57:19
like this you’ve got banana republics
57:21
and you got a banana republic here at
57:22
America if that’s not the case and
57:25
ultimately I think is that not what we
57:27
ultimately in this nation are crying out
57:28
for buddy I just I just sense that
57:31
tonight that’s really the deep heart cry
57:33
for everybody they may think that it’s
57:35
you know they’re going in at different
57:36
angles but that ultimately is what we’re
57:38
all wanting am i right a minute yes and
57:44
I’ll say too I understand a lot of the
57:47
things that go through I guess my optic
57:49
is a little different than most I mean I
57:51
don’t look at this from obtaining
57:54
justice that’s that’s not necessarily my
57:57
perspective I kind of look at these
57:59
things as what’s best for just national
58:01
security and for the safety and security
58:03
of our citizens so I guess my
58:05
perspective is a little skewed that way
58:07
also one of the things too just coming
58:09
out of espionage intelligence the
58:12
operations into the CIA all the times in
58:16
these things there’s no final solid
58:20
conclusive answer and there’s a lot of
58:23
half-measures and things that you never
58:25
find out the answer to and all of that
58:27
so that’s just the reality of life it’s
58:30
just it that’s how these things work
58:32
there’s never a clean cut yes or no
58:35
black and white type of answer not not
58:37
always there on on occasions so I think
58:41
my views on all of these things are
58:43
tempered by that you know kind of harsh
58:45
reality if you will so you know if if
58:49
the question to me were to be some
58:51
thing like you know would you find it
58:53
personally satisfying and be happy if
58:56
all the stuff that Obama did he could be
58:59
convicted for him put jail I mean answer
59:01
that yes I mean I think that would be
59:03
personally very satisfying but my
59:06
personal satisfaction isn’t what’s
59:07
important here and same goes for Biden
59:10
violence an idiot I mean he’s got a lot
59:12
of problems I don’t think he was ever a
59:13
very bright man and I think what grey
59:15
cells are left to him or and a lot of
59:17
danger
59:18
you know imploding so you know he’s
59:20
certainly incompetent to be President
59:22
and I think he’s deeply corrupt all this
59:24
stuff with his son and charisma and all
59:26
of those things it’s deeply corrupt but
59:28
and what is victory for us and is it you
59:31
know just it’s it’s not necessarily to
59:34
make absolutely everyone that was out
59:36
there in any way involved go to jail you
59:39
know what we need to do is make a lesson
59:41
out of the of the ringleaders and if
59:43
it’s the homie clapper Peter strong
59:50
jumper and all of those guys go to jail
59:53
which is where I think we’re headed it’s
59:57
also that I want but it’s where I think
59:59
we’re headed yeah yeah that’s the case
60:02
you’ve got to look at this as an
60:04
enormous victory an enormous game that’s
60:08
right because imagine the former
60:12
director of the CIA the former director
60:15
of the FBI the Director of National
60:18
Intelligence the head of the CI
60:20
Department of that beyond all of those
60:22
guys going to jail I never ever have we
60:26
had something like that happen to the
60:27
United States now do they appear guilty
60:30
most assuredly and as I said this is the
60:32
way I think it’s headed personally I’ll
60:35
find it satisfying to see it happen
60:37
because I want what I think and hope and
60:39
pray all of us want which is true
60:42
justice here in the United States of
60:43
America but don’t expect justice to be
60:46
like perfect across the board in every
60:49
way shape and form and there are
60:51
trade-offs on right things so pretty
60:53
good a shattering generational victory
60:58
be happy bad if we get these to service
61:01
in the supreme front one or two or three
61:04
more perhaps
61:05
that is a generational victory if all
61:07
these guys go to jail that’s a
61:09
generational victory our grandchildren
61:11
will still be enjoying the fruits of
61:14
these victories so well this is where
61:17
we’d have to really you know stay stay
61:19
focused
61:20
so don’t and for everyone you know
61:23
please try not to be so frustrated by
61:25
you know maybe some sinking rats get off
61:28
that sinking ship and escape and you
61:30
know that’s life well I think I could
61:33
not have said it just better what you
61:34
just said and I pray our audience heard
61:36
that instead of trying to try to figure
61:41
all this stuff out in your mind right I
61:42
think it’s fair enough to say you know
61:45
and me and you said this year ago we did
61:47
and we said when the smoke clears and
61:50
all this is over with and there’s been
61:53
no arrest me and Brad are gonna have a
61:54
conversation like we’re having tonight
61:56
we’re gonna be probably in a different
61:58
mood than we are I’m willing to wait I’m
62:01
willing to wait on justice no matter how
62:03
long it takes I’m willing to trust bar
62:04
I’m willing to trust President Trump I’m
62:07
willing to trust everybody but there’s
62:09
one thing about it that none of us can
62:10
control that swamp is so deep in DC it’s
62:15
definitely gonna take some divine help
62:17
it’s gonna take some people with some
62:18
guts it’s gonna take some people that
62:21
are not sellouts it’s gonna take getting
62:23
rid of the gatekeepers this thing cannot
62:25
be done overnight and look this stuff
62:28
has been embedded in DC for almost a
62:30
hundred years buddy and you can’t expect
62:33
a president to walk in and four and
62:35
change everything
62:36
you can’t even expect them to do it in a
62:38
look you mentioned the generational
62:40
thing I personally believe this is a
62:42
generational fight I think we’re setting
62:44
the parameters for this fight for this
62:46
equal justice but but even me and you
62:48
are old and going and we’re not on this
62:50
landscape anymore and our kids and
62:52
grandkids are here it’s gonna be their
62:54
fight too and they’re gonna have to
62:55
fight for this just as hard as we’re
62:56
fighting for it tonight and if we fail
63:00
in that fight it’s also gonna set a
63:03
precedent for generations to come
63:04
that we don’t want to see tonight but I
63:07
just love what you said take the victory
63:10
take the victory and rejoice in it and
63:13
and and not get so bent out of shape on
63:15
the things we don’t get be grateful for
63:18
what we
63:19
do get because it takes everything we do
63:22
get is gonna be gravy and it’s gonna be
63:25
more than what we’ve had I can tell you
63:27
that and I just seem sometimes when
63:30
citizens get all bent out of shape and
63:31
they get their little tunnel vision and
63:33
they say but we got to have this or
63:35
we’re better not understand it let me
63:36
you gotta forget all that you got to
63:39
enjoy the fact that we at least look you
63:41
know we didn’t have these investigations
63:43
going Brad a year ago Garin have to go
63:45
at least we got investigations going
63:47
last when I first met you two years ago
63:49
none of this was even on the table no
63:51
then we were talking about two years ago
63:53
me and you was anthony Weiner’s laptop
63:54
but we’re so far along and with this
63:57
flynn revelation and the russia
63:59
revelation look I’m willing to take a
64:01
deep breath and let this play out and
64:03
when the smoke clears and everything is
64:06
played out and then we see what the
64:08
hands we’ve been dealt then Chris is
64:09
gonna react and I would strongly suggest
64:12
to my audience tonight some of you who
64:14
are going off the rails out there in
64:16
that chat take the same advice just the
64:19
thought just about bonding where I’m not
64:21
gonna have time for questions tonight
64:22
Brad final thought good good stuff
64:23
tonight buddy I appreciate you man
64:25
final thought on this Tuesday night
64:27
early-bird thank you so much and by the
64:28
way do you mind me telling them where
64:29
you’re gonna be oh do you mind me
64:31
telling the details about where you
64:32
might be well hasn’t been confirmed
64:39
we’ve been discussing dates but yeah the
64:42
Ingram show on the Fox News has invited
64:44
me to come on to talk about the op-ed
64:46
the five eyes off edge so hopefully
64:49
maybe some hope so and I’m proud of you
64:52
I want you to know how proud I am of you
64:54
that I look you deserve this I mean
64:56
you’ve been friends for two years now
64:58
and I got to meet you last year finally
64:59
and we’ve had some really good
65:01
fellowship we’ve had some good
65:02
discussions just off camera and on
65:04
camera and I’ve really have always
65:06
respected you always have but no respect
65:08
gross for you everyday because of stuff
65:10
like this that you bring to us and you
65:11
know you’re always welcome here
65:13
so is Elvis by the way tell him I said
65:15
happy Memorial Day nope hope y’all have
65:19
some good barbecue for those of you
65:22
don’t know that story when I first met
65:24
Brad the very first question I asked him
65:25
but out of the gate
65:26
the very first question was nothing but
65:28
do you have Elvis hid behind
65:32
being a former CIA guy was just asking
65:35
and we’ve had fun with that ever since
65:37
buddy thank you so much for for this
65:39
tonight and I do appreciate you and hope
65:42
everything works out with the interview
65:43
and we’ll be watching I can tell you
65:44
that and folks what you heard tonight
65:46
they hadn’t heard yet or English
65:48
audience and heard yeah you’ve got this
65:50
firsthand and I want to thank Brad for
65:53
coming on tonight sharing with us this
65:54
dangerous stuff do keep us updated buddy
65:56
keep us updated and what what happens
65:58
there god bless you out there god bless
66:00
your families god bless this great
66:01
nation of America for those of you
66:03
that’s not sick of a we’ve got one
66:06
more show tonight
66:06
we’ve had a busy Tuesday it’s just gonna
66:09
be me later
66:10
I couldn’t let Johnson look better than
66:12
me that’s why I always put a suit and
66:14
tie when he comes on the show I have to
66:15
look I can’t let him out dress me so I
66:18
have to dress that I won’t be in the
66:20
tire tonight yzma justice we’re gonna go
66:22

over some criminal cases I’ve got a
66:23
comment or two about this interview
66:25
tonight that I want you to hear almac
66:27
justice I think it’s been a great
66:28
interview I got a few thoughts about
66:29
this we’re gonna look at some criminal
66:31
cases and I want you to be with me
66:34
probably 10 o’clock Eastern tonight 9:30
66:35
somewhere in that ballpark but Brad
66:37
Johnson until I see you next time buddy
66:39
thank you so much for a great interview
66:40
guys let Brad know you heard him support
66:42
his work in Tail reform dot org he’s a
66:45
patriot he has served this country well
66:47
and he’s still serving it well with the
66:49
information he’s bringing Brad Johnson
66:51
thank you so much buddy Lee West have a
66:53
good night everybody
66:54
until next time see you tonight don’t
66:56
make justice
66:59
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