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good evening everyone Chris McDonald
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good evening everyone Chris McDonald
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good evening everyone Chris McDonald
with a knack files we’re very honored
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with a knack files we’re very honored
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with a knack files we’re very honored
and pleased tonight to have Brad Johnson
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and pleased tonight to have Brad Johnson
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and pleased tonight to have Brad Johnson
with us bread is a retired CIA officer
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with us bread is a retired CIA officer
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with us bread is a retired CIA officer
and a president for America’s for
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and a president for America’s for
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and a president for America’s for
intelligence reform in telephone org
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intelligence reform in telephone org
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intelligence reform in telephone org
Brad has served our government very very
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Brad has served our government very very
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Brad has served our government very very
faithfully for 25 years we are very very
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faithfully for 25 years we are very very
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faithfully for 25 years we are very very
honored to have them tonight we’ve been
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honored to have them tonight we’ve been
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honored to have them tonight we’ve been
wanting to talk with them our mutual
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wanting to talk with them our mutual
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wanting to talk with them our mutual
friend Christopher Hall sort of put us
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friend Christopher Hall sort of put us
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friend Christopher Hall sort of put us
in contact with Brad and Brad let me
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in contact with Brad and Brad let me
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in contact with Brad and Brad let me
just start off before we get into the
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just start off before we get into the
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just start off before we get into the
details of our conversation you’re up
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details of our conversation you’re up
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details of our conversation you’re up
there in Virginia we’re down here in
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there in Virginia we’re down here in
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there in Virginia we’re down here in
Tennessee we’re sort of neighbors a
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Tennessee we’re sort of neighbors a
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Tennessee we’re sort of neighbors a
little bit but it’s good to have you on
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little bit but it’s good to have you on
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little bit but it’s good to have you on
the mat cause tonight very very honor to
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the mat cause tonight very very honor to
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the mat cause tonight very very honor to
have you a friend really is thank you so
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have you a friend really is thank you so
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have you a friend really is thank you so
much and in the scheme of things we’re
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much and in the scheme of things we’re
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much and in the scheme of things we’re
next door neighbors there’s a whole big
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next door neighbors there’s a whole big
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next door neighbors there’s a whole big
world out there besides just us in the
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world out there besides just us in the
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world out there besides just us in the
that is true of course Tennessee and
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that is true of course Tennessee and
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that is true of course Tennessee and
Virginia are very long states that we
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Virginia are very long states that we
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Virginia are very long states that we
could be neighbors I could be 6 hours 12
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could be neighbors I could be 6 hours 12
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could be neighbors I could be 6 hours 12
hours away from you still be neighbors
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hours away from you still be neighbors
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hours away from you still be neighbors
with it dealing with Tennessee in
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with it dealing with Tennessee in
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with it dealing with Tennessee in
Virginia but anyway it is good to have
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Virginia but anyway it is good to have
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Virginia but anyway it is good to have
you
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Brad you’ve been in the CIA for 25 years
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Brad you’ve been in the CIA for 25 years
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Brad you’ve been in the CIA for 25 years
and I know that you are you’ve got your
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and I know that you are you’ve got your
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and I know that you are you’ve got your
thoughts on the political things of
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thoughts on the political things of
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thoughts on the political things of
Washington DC and we’ve got a new
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Washington DC and we’ve got a new
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Washington DC and we’ve got a new
president now we’ve had president Trump
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president now we’ve had president Trump
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president now we’ve had president Trump
been here since 2016 and I’d like for
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been here since 2016 and I’d like for
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been here since 2016 and I’d like for
you to start an interview off if you
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you to start an interview off if you
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you to start an interview off if you
don’t mind with dealing a little bit
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don’t mind with dealing a little bit
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don’t mind with dealing a little bit
with the way that this I hate to use
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with the way that this I hate to use
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with the way that this I hate to use
this word but a lot of people really
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this word but a lot of people really
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this word but a lot of people really
slammed him at the beginning because
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slammed him at the beginning because
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slammed him at the beginning because
they didn’t feel like he had all Orrin
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they didn’t feel like he had all Orrin
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they didn’t feel like he had all Orrin
policy experience but I think he’s done
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policy experience but I think he’s done
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policy experience but I think he’s done
a pretty good job of putting a team
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a pretty good job of putting a team
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a pretty good job of putting a team
around him that I think we’re in good
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around him that I think we’re in good
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around him that I think we’re in good
hands with foreign policy and the world
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hands with foreign policy and the world
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hands with foreign policy and the world
but he’s put a great team of men around
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but he’s put a great team of men around
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but he’s put a great team of men around
him now into the Intelligence Agency and
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him now into the Intelligence Agency and
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him now into the Intelligence Agency and
I know your that’s what you have done
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I know your that’s what you have done
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I know your that’s what you have done
for 25 years how did you see that from
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for 25 years how did you see that from
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for 25 years how did you see that from
your angle well I read you for your
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your angle well I read you for your
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your angle well I read you for your
overall assessment I mean I’m I was not
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overall assessment I mean I’m I was not
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overall assessment I mean I’m I was not
a big initially a trump supporter in the
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a big initially a trump supporter in the
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a big initially a trump supporter in the
primaries going into the 2016 elections
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primaries going into the 2016 elections
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primaries going into the 2016 elections
but once he won I thought it very easy
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but once he won I thought it very easy
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but once he won I thought it very easy
to switch over to support him
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to switch over to support him
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to switch over to support him
particularly on his his position
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particularly on his his position
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particularly on his his position
on the Supreme Court and whose picks it
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on the Supreme Court and whose picks it
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on the Supreme Court and whose picks it
Circuit Court Supreme Court and so on
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Circuit Court Supreme Court and so on
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Circuit Court Supreme Court and so on
that people he intended to put on which
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that people he intended to put on which
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that people he intended to put on which
are people who support the Constitution
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are people who support the Constitution
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are people who support the Constitution
which in which having lived a great deal
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which in which having lived a great deal
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which in which having lived a great deal
of my adult life overseas people here
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of my adult life overseas people here
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of my adult life overseas people here
the United States don’t appreciate that
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the United States don’t appreciate that
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the United States don’t appreciate that
about the value of the Constitution like
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about the value of the Constitution like
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about the value of the Constitution like
they should but it’s a document that is
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they should but it’s a document that is
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they should but it’s a document that is
probably the single most important
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probably the single most important
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probably the single most important
document written for people for man
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document written for people for man
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document written for people for man
about man you know if you will versus
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about man you know if you will versus
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about man you know if you will versus
say the Bible something like that so the
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say the Bible something like that so the
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say the Bible something like that so the
people that supported I find you know to
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people that supported I find you know to
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people that supported I find you know to
be extraordinarily significant here in
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be extraordinarily significant here in
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be extraordinarily significant here in
our society so President Trump is said
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our society so President Trump is said
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our society so President Trump is said
about trying to do that and in the
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about trying to do that and in the
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about trying to do that and in the
National Security arena specifically I
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National Security arena specifically I
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National Security arena specifically I
think President Trump kind of drawing on
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think President Trump kind of drawing on
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think President Trump kind of drawing on
his capability to negotiate and having
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his capability to negotiate and having
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his capability to negotiate and having
done a lot of international negotiations
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done a lot of international negotiations
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done a lot of international negotiations
I mean even if it’s over a hotel
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I mean even if it’s over a hotel
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I mean even if it’s over a hotel
international negotiations are still
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international negotiations are still
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international negotiations are still
parallel and content and so on sees he
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parallel and content and so on sees he
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parallel and content and so on sees he
comes into it with a fairly deep
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comes into it with a fairly deep
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comes into it with a fairly deep
understanding in many aspects now the
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understanding in many aspects now the
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understanding in many aspects now the
details handling classified information
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details handling classified information
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details handling classified information
so on yes he’s a neophyte and there has
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so on yes he’s a neophyte and there has
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so on yes he’s a neophyte and there has
been learning her and I think what we’ve
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been learning her and I think what we’ve
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been learning her and I think what we’ve
seen is some of that over the first well
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seen is some of that over the first well
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seen is some of that over the first well
now 500 days of his presidency show and
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now 500 days of his presidency show and
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now 500 days of his presidency show and
and what he’s had trouble with is
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and what he’s had trouble with is
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and what he’s had trouble with is
picking people and getting his teams
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picking people and getting his teams
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picking people and getting his teams
together and so on and and you saw right
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together and so on and and you saw right
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together and so on and and you saw right
away he he was able to join with we say
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away he he was able to join with we say
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away he he was able to join with we say
the Federalist Society and do a lot of
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the Federalist Society and do a lot of
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the Federalist Society and do a lot of
important things with them getting the
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important things with them getting the
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important things with them getting the
correct things forward for judges and
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correct things forward for judges and
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correct things forward for judges and
has done a tremendous amount for our
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has done a tremendous amount for our
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has done a tremendous amount for our
judges and the national security thing I
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judges and the national security thing I
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judges and the national security thing I
think is now is economics was then high
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think is now is economics was then high
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think is now is economics was then high
on the list and it took him one a little
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on the list and it took him one a little
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on the list and it took him one a little
finesse it and get his people in to
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finesse it and get his people in to
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finesse it and get his people in to
handle the economics and now we’re
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handle the economics and now we’re
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handle the economics and now we’re
blooming in both of those things a niche
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blooming in both of those things a niche
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blooming in both of those things a niche
now online is his is his national
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now online is his is his national
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now online is his is his national
security and just over the last few
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security and just over the last few
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security and just over the last few
months you’ve seen him actually a
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months you’ve seen him actually a
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months you’ve seen him actually a
similar team and what we have now is a
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similar team and what we have now is a
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similar team and what we have now is a
team of people you’ve seen John Bolton
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team of people you’ve seen John Bolton
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team of people you’ve seen John Bolton
who’s extraordinarily experienced in the
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who’s extraordinarily experienced in the
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who’s extraordinarily experienced in the
international sphere and really knows
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international sphere and really knows
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international sphere and really knows
his stuff greatly respected now
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his stuff greatly respected now
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his stuff greatly respected now
on the left he’s disliked intently and
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on the left he’s disliked intently and
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on the left he’s disliked intently and
and I just point out most of the
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and I just point out most of the
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and I just point out most of the
complaints against John Bolton are that
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complaints against John Bolton are that
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complaints against John Bolton are that
they call it design which Zionist
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they call it design which Zionist
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they call it design which Zionist
essentially boiled down means that
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essentially boiled down means that
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essentially boiled down means that
Israel has is the own land for the
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Israel has is the own land for the
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Israel has is the own land for the
Jewish people now from a national
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Jewish people now from a national
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Jewish people now from a national
security aspect let’s forget all of the
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security aspect let’s forget all of the
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security aspect let’s forget all of the
emotion having to do with it
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emotion having to do with it
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emotion having to do with it
is the United States better off with a
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is the United States better off with a
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is the United States better off with a
safe and secure democratic Israel in
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safe and secure democratic Israel in
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safe and secure democratic Israel in
that region or are we better off without
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that region or are we better off without
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that region or are we better off without
them and in that context there’s just no
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them and in that context there’s just no
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them and in that context there’s just no
question the United States with Israel
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question the United States with Israel
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question the United States with Israel
so you know if you believe in u.s.
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so you know if you believe in u.s.
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so you know if you believe in u.s.
potential security then you should be a
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potential security then you should be a
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potential security then you should be a
supporter of John Bolton who’s who okay
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supporter of John Bolton who’s who okay
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supporter of John Bolton who’s who okay
if that’s your single complaint that’s
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if that’s your single complaint that’s
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if that’s your single complaint that’s
that’s not that much so you know you can
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that’s not that much so you know you can
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that’s not that much so you know you can
pretty much set aside the majority of
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pretty much set aside the majority of
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pretty much set aside the majority of
the complaints against him now beyond
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the complaints against him now beyond
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the complaints against him now beyond
John Bolton just he’s also known about
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John Bolton just he’s also known about
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John Bolton just he’s also known about
Mike Pompeo who we brought in and
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Mike Pompeo who we brought in and
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Mike Pompeo who we brought in and
Secretary of State both men have a good
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Secretary of State both men have a good
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Secretary of State both men have a good
relationship with the President of the
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relationship with the President of the
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relationship with the President of the
United States and I would say Mike
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United States and I would say Mike
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United States and I would say Mike
Pompeo in particular who is just from
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Pompeo in particular who is just from
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Pompeo in particular who is just from
day one based on his background on the
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day one based on his background on the
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day one based on his background on the
hill as a congressman and on the House
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hill as a congressman and on the House
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hill as a congressman and on the House
Intelligence Oversight Committee and
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Intelligence Oversight Committee and
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Intelligence Oversight Committee and
then as chief of CIA I mean the guy was
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then as chief of CIA I mean the guy was
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then as chief of CIA I mean the guy was
well informed I just can’t look at him
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well informed I just can’t look at him
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well informed I just can’t look at him
and say this guy didn’t know squat so he
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and say this guy didn’t know squat so he
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and say this guy didn’t know squat so he
hit the ground running the first day so
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hit the ground running the first day so
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hit the ground running the first day so
you’ve got this there’s now core team at
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you’ve got this there’s now core team at
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you’ve got this there’s now core team at
the top of people who trust each other
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the top of people who trust each other
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the top of people who trust each other
get along well and so on which is
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get along well and so on which is
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get along well and so on which is
extraordinarily important it’s you can’t
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extraordinarily important it’s you can’t
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extraordinarily important it’s you can’t
run everything is a one-man show you
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run everything is a one-man show you
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run everything is a one-man show you
gotta have a team and I think the
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gotta have a team and I think the
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gotta have a team and I think the
president is really beginning to learn
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president is really beginning to learn
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president is really beginning to learn
those lessons and form the team now from
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those lessons and form the team now from
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those lessons and form the team now from
there you’ve seen John Bolton bringing
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there you’ve seen John Bolton bringing
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there you’ve seen John Bolton bringing
someone over the east know for a long
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someone over the east know for a long
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someone over the east know for a long
time which is Fred fly it’s not known
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time which is Fred fly it’s not known
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time which is Fred fly it’s not known
quite as widely as Mike Pompeo or but
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quite as widely as Mike Pompeo or but
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quite as widely as Mike Pompeo or but
still a well known entity and the
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still a well known entity and the
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still a well known entity and the
complaints against him are similar
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complaints against him are similar
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complaints against him are similar
you’ve got some basically extremists
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you’ve got some basically extremists
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you’ve got some basically extremists
that don’t like his position on national
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that don’t like his position on national
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that don’t like his position on national
security and his position on Muslim
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security and his position on Muslim
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security and his position on Muslim
extremists and so on but you know
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extremists and so on but you know
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extremists and so on but you know
pretending that that you know Muslim
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pretending that that you know Muslim
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pretending that that you know Muslim
extremists are dangerous is sort of
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extremists are dangerous is sort of
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extremists are dangerous is sort of
silly and self-destructive I mean it’s
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silly and self-destructive I mean it’s
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silly and self-destructive I mean it’s
it’s not the Baptists who are flying
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it’s not the Baptists who are flying
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it’s not the Baptists who are flying
airplanes in some extremists so I you
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airplanes in some extremists so I you
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airplanes in some extremists so I you
just have to accept the reality of it so
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just have to accept the reality of it so
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just have to accept the reality of it so
I think
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I think
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I think
although probably not noticed as widely
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although probably not noticed as widely
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although probably not noticed as widely
across the United States I think Fred
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across the United States I think Fred
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across the United States I think Fred
flights is going to be an
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flights is going to be an
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flights is going to be an
extraordinarily important key to putting
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extraordinarily important key to putting
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extraordinarily important key to putting
the rest of this team together because
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the rest of this team together because
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the rest of this team together because
he has a lot of connections he’s worked
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he has a lot of connections he’s worked
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he has a lot of connections he’s worked
on the hill he was a former CIA analyst
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on the hill he was a former CIA analyst
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on the hill he was a former CIA analyst
and he’s just got a long time around
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and he’s just got a long time around
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and he’s just got a long time around
this where he’s going to be able to
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this where he’s going to be able to
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this where he’s going to be able to
establish a large group of professionals
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establish a large group of professionals
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establish a large group of professionals
and the national security council that
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and the national security council that
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and the national security council that
are really gonna help make this team
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are really gonna help make this team
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are really gonna help make this team
move forward and I think you’re already
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move forward and I think you’re already
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move forward and I think you’re already
seeing a lot of results with the new
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seeing a lot of results with the new
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seeing a lot of results with the new
negotiations with North Korea and even
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negotiations with North Korea and even
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negotiations with North Korea and even
trade treaties and so on where
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trade treaties and so on where
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trade treaties and so on where
intelligence can have impact
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intelligence can have impact
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intelligence can have impact
Bradley managed to something you brought
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Bradley managed to something you brought
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Bradley managed to something you brought
up something about the relationship
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up something about the relationship
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up something about the relationship
between Pompeo Bolton and flight flights
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between Pompeo Bolton and flight flights
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between Pompeo Bolton and flight flights
with the president one of the things
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with the president one of the things
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with the president one of the things
that the left is beaten president Trump
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that the left is beaten president Trump
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that the left is beaten president Trump
over the head about is that he’s
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over the head about is that he’s
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over the head about is that he’s
quote-unquote close to his CIA director
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quote-unquote close to his CIA director
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quote-unquote close to his CIA director
John Bolton and Fred lights I’ve never
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John Bolton and Fred lights I’ve never
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John Bolton and Fred lights I’ve never
thought that was a bad thing I believe
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thought that was a bad thing I believe
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thought that was a bad thing I believe
that the president has right that men
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that the president has right that men
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that the president has right that men
and women around him they don’t
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and women around him they don’t
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and women around him they don’t
necessarily have to be yes men to him
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necessarily have to be yes men to him
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necessarily have to be yes men to him
but they need to be on board with his
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but they need to be on board with his
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but they need to be on board with his
agenda they sure don’t need to be
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agenda they sure don’t need to be
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agenda they sure don’t need to be
fighting against him and through your
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fighting against him and through your
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fighting against him and through your
work with the CIA through the years how
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work with the CIA through the years how
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work with the CIA through the years how
do you see that relationship now as
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do you see that relationship now as
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do you see that relationship now as
compared to maybe other CIA directors of
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compared to maybe other CIA directors of
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compared to maybe other CIA directors of
the past with other presidents well
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the past with other presidents well
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the past with other presidents well
certainly I think the president’s
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certainly I think the president’s
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certainly I think the president’s
relationship with mine compel is closer
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relationship with mine compel is closer
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relationship with mine compel is closer
than probably the average director of
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than probably the average director of
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than probably the average director of
the CIA has with the president but not
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the CIA has with the president but not
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the CIA has with the president but not
only sometimes the relationships are
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only sometimes the relationships are
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only sometimes the relationships are
very closed Reagan was famously close to
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very closed Reagan was famously close to
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very closed Reagan was famously close to
the is director at the CIA and even had
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the is director at the CIA and even had
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the is director at the CIA and even had
him brought over to be a in a cabinet
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him brought over to be a in a cabinet
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him brought over to be a in a cabinet
position which I will argue I think that
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position which I will argue I think that
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position which I will argue I think that
was a mistake the CIA needs to be
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was a mistake the CIA needs to be
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was a mistake the CIA needs to be
upended independent of policy it needs
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upended independent of policy it needs
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upended independent of policy it needs
to focus only on gathering solid
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to focus only on gathering solid
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to focus only on gathering solid
intelligence and provide it to policy
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intelligence and provide it to policy
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intelligence and provide it to policy
makers who then do whatever it is they
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makers who then do whatever it is they
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makers who then do whatever it is they
want to do but nevertheless those sorts
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want to do but nevertheless those sorts
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want to do but nevertheless those sorts
of close relationships existed and I
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of close relationships existed and I
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of close relationships existed and I
think certainly former director Brennan
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think certainly former director Brennan
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think certainly former director Brennan
under Obama had a close relationship
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under Obama had a close relationship
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under Obama had a close relationship
with so some unheard of it’s it’s a
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with so some unheard of it’s it’s a
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with so some unheard of it’s it’s a
little unusual but what are some
456
00:14:00,040 –> 00:14:00,050
little unusual but what are some
457
00:14:00,050 –> 00:14:02,140
little unusual but what are some
advantages and disadvantages of the CIA
458
00:14:02,140 –> 00:14:02,150
advantages and disadvantages of the CIA
459
00:14:02,150 –> 00:14:03,550
advantages and disadvantages of the CIA
director being that close to the
460
00:14:03,550 –> 00:14:03,560
director being that close to the
461
00:14:03,560 –> 00:14:05,740
director being that close to the
president well
462
00:14:05,740 –> 00:14:05,750
president well
463
00:14:05,750 –> 00:14:07,749
president well
it’s as everything is it’s always a
464
00:14:07,749 –> 00:14:07,759
it’s as everything is it’s always a
465
00:14:07,759 –> 00:14:11,019
it’s as everything is it’s always a
two-edged sword and in this case
466
00:14:11,019 –> 00:14:11,029
two-edged sword and in this case
467
00:14:11,029 –> 00:14:15,540
two-edged sword and in this case
probably the preponderance goes in favor
468
00:14:15,540 –> 00:14:15,550
probably the preponderance goes in favor
469
00:14:15,550 –> 00:14:17,829
probably the preponderance goes in favor
in the sense that once you have that
470
00:14:17,829 –> 00:14:17,839
in the sense that once you have that
471
00:14:17,839 –> 00:14:19,480
in the sense that once you have that
relationship with president itíd States
472
00:14:19,480 –> 00:14:19,490
relationship with president itíd States
473
00:14:19,490 –> 00:14:21,249
relationship with president itíd States
there’s a lot of trust built up he
474
00:14:21,249 –> 00:14:21,259
there’s a lot of trust built up he
475
00:14:21,259 –> 00:14:23,019
there’s a lot of trust built up he
trusts what the director is telling him
476
00:14:23,019 –> 00:14:23,029
trusts what the director is telling him
477
00:14:23,029 –> 00:14:24,759
trusts what the director is telling him
and the director believes that he can
478
00:14:24,759 –> 00:14:24,769
and the director believes that he can
479
00:14:24,769 –> 00:14:26,259
and the director believes that he can
say what he needs to say to the
480
00:14:26,259 –> 00:14:26,269
say what he needs to say to the
481
00:14:26,269 –> 00:14:28,179
say what he needs to say to the
president so that that trust is very
482
00:14:28,179 –> 00:14:28,189
president so that that trust is very
483
00:14:28,189 –> 00:14:30,670
president so that that trust is very
very important and very helpful the
484
00:14:30,670 –> 00:14:30,680
very important and very helpful the
485
00:14:30,680 –> 00:14:32,050
very important and very helpful the
negative is which is I’ve already
486
00:14:32,050 –> 00:14:32,060
negative is which is I’ve already
487
00:14:32,060 –> 00:14:34,420
negative is which is I’ve already
alluded to is you got to be careful that
488
00:14:34,420 –> 00:14:34,430
alluded to is you got to be careful that
489
00:14:34,430 –> 00:14:37,540
alluded to is you got to be careful that
a CIA director does not get involved
490
00:14:37,540 –> 00:14:37,550
a CIA director does not get involved
491
00:14:37,550 –> 00:14:39,999
a CIA director does not get involved
with making policy and here’s something
492
00:14:39,999 –> 00:14:40,009
with making policy and here’s something
493
00:14:40,009 –> 00:14:41,530
with making policy and here’s something
that you’ve seen it that was just a
494
00:14:41,530 –> 00:14:41,540
that you’ve seen it that was just a
495
00:14:41,540 –> 00:14:43,900
that you’ve seen it that was just a
fundamental flaw with former director
496
00:14:43,900 –> 00:14:43,910
fundamental flaw with former director
497
00:14:43,910 –> 00:14:46,119
fundamental flaw with former director
John Brennan under Obama and that is
498
00:14:46,119 –> 00:14:46,129
John Brennan under Obama and that is
499
00:14:46,129 –> 00:14:48,160
John Brennan under Obama and that is
huge deeply involved in policy and
500
00:14:48,160 –> 00:14:48,170
huge deeply involved in policy and
501
00:14:48,170 –> 00:14:50,470
huge deeply involved in policy and
extraordinarily political director of
502
00:14:50,470 –> 00:14:50,480
extraordinarily political director of
503
00:14:50,480 –> 00:14:51,040
extraordinarily political director of
the CIA
504
00:14:51,040 –> 00:14:51,050
the CIA
505
00:14:51,050 –> 00:14:53,559
the CIA
so that has played itself out in many
506
00:14:53,559 –> 00:14:53,569
so that has played itself out in many
507
00:14:53,569 –> 00:14:55,329
so that has played itself out in many
many many ways that are very destructive
508
00:14:55,329 –> 00:14:55,339
many many ways that are very destructive
509
00:14:55,339 –> 00:14:58,230
many many ways that are very destructive
so under the watch of John Brennan the
510
00:14:58,230 –> 00:14:58,240
so under the watch of John Brennan the
511
00:14:58,240 –> 00:15:00,610
so under the watch of John Brennan the
the national security was greatly
512
00:15:00,610 –> 00:15:00,620
the national security was greatly
513
00:15:00,620 –> 00:15:03,220
the national security was greatly
damaged and capabilities reduced and it
514
00:15:03,220 –> 00:15:03,230
damaged and capabilities reduced and it
515
00:15:03,230 –> 00:15:06,429
damaged and capabilities reduced and it
became political where for example now
516
00:15:06,429 –> 00:15:06,439
became political where for example now
517
00:15:06,439 –> 00:15:08,170
became political where for example now
in the analysts at the CIA are deeply
518
00:15:08,170 –> 00:15:08,180
in the analysts at the CIA are deeply
519
00:15:08,180 –> 00:15:09,790
in the analysts at the CIA are deeply
political because John Brennan’s people
520
00:15:09,790 –> 00:15:09,800
political because John Brennan’s people
521
00:15:09,800 –> 00:15:12,369
political because John Brennan’s people
so that’s the that’s sort of what you
522
00:15:12,369 –> 00:15:12,379
so that’s the that’s sort of what you
523
00:15:12,379 –> 00:15:15,129
so that’s the that’s sort of what you
see happening and that’s an overall
524
00:15:15,129 –> 00:15:15,139
see happening and that’s an overall
525
00:15:15,139 –> 00:15:18,100
see happening and that’s an overall
negative destructive force because as I
526
00:15:18,100 –> 00:15:18,110
negative destructive force because as I
527
00:15:18,110 –> 00:15:20,470
negative destructive force because as I
mentioned earlier it has to be analyst
528
00:15:20,470 –> 00:15:20,480
mentioned earlier it has to be analyst
529
00:15:20,480 –> 00:15:22,990
mentioned earlier it has to be analyst
bites and that cause despite its nature
530
00:15:22,990 –> 00:15:23,000
bites and that cause despite its nature
531
00:15:23,000 –> 00:15:26,019
bites and that cause despite its nature
should be completely independent and you
532
00:15:26,019 –> 00:15:26,029
should be completely independent and you
533
00:15:26,029 –> 00:15:28,210
should be completely independent and you
know not connected to any policy not
534
00:15:28,210 –> 00:15:28,220
know not connected to any policy not
535
00:15:28,220 –> 00:15:29,860
know not connected to any policy not
connected to any of the sources of
536
00:15:29,860 –> 00:15:29,870
connected to any of the sources of
537
00:15:29,870 –> 00:15:32,170
connected to any of the sources of
information I should be completely
538
00:15:32,170 –> 00:15:32,180
information I should be completely
539
00:15:32,180 –> 00:15:33,970
information I should be completely
independent they sit back like the
540
00:15:33,970 –> 00:15:33,980
independent they sit back like the
541
00:15:33,980 –> 00:15:36,549
independent they sit back like the
spider in its web and just pull all the
542
00:15:36,549 –> 00:15:36,559
spider in its web and just pull all the
543
00:15:36,559 –> 00:15:38,079
spider in its web and just pull all the
strings in in the middle look at
544
00:15:38,079 –> 00:15:38,089
strings in in the middle look at
545
00:15:38,089 –> 00:15:42,699
strings in in the middle look at
everything from every source way with
546
00:15:42,699 –> 00:15:42,709
everything from every source way with
547
00:15:42,709 –> 00:15:44,530
everything from every source way with
just completely neutral judgment and
548
00:15:44,530 –> 00:15:44,540
just completely neutral judgment and
549
00:15:44,540 –> 00:15:46,990
just completely neutral judgment and
then make their best analysis of the
550
00:15:46,990 –> 00:15:47,000
then make their best analysis of the
551
00:15:47,000 –> 00:15:48,220
then make their best analysis of the
situation and provide the best
552
00:15:48,220 –> 00:15:48,230
situation and provide the best
553
00:15:48,230 –> 00:15:50,290
situation and provide the best
information for policy makers be at the
554
00:15:50,290 –> 00:15:50,300
information for policy makers be at the
555
00:15:50,300 –> 00:15:51,460
information for policy makers be at the
press in the United States certainly
556
00:15:51,460 –> 00:15:51,470
press in the United States certainly
557
00:15:51,470 –> 00:15:53,559
press in the United States certainly
primarily but also comments
558
00:15:53,559 –> 00:15:53,569
primarily but also comments
559
00:15:53,569 –> 00:15:56,079
primarily but also comments
Diann and other federal agencies you
560
00:15:56,079 –> 00:15:56,089
Diann and other federal agencies you
561
00:15:56,089 –> 00:15:57,999
Diann and other federal agencies you
know they need good information more
562
00:15:57,999 –> 00:15:58,009
know they need good information more
563
00:15:58,009 –> 00:15:59,199
know they need good information more
than they need politically correct
564
00:15:59,199 –> 00:15:59,209
than they need politically correct
565
00:15:59,209 –> 00:16:01,119
than they need politically correct
information and I would say there’s
566
00:16:01,119 –> 00:16:01,129
information and I would say there’s
567
00:16:01,129 –> 00:16:03,220
information and I would say there’s
where you see that the extreme negative
568
00:16:03,220 –> 00:16:03,230
where you see that the extreme negative
569
00:16:03,230 –> 00:16:06,519
where you see that the extreme negative
impact of having someone so close to the
570
00:16:06,519 –> 00:16:06,529
impact of having someone so close to the
571
00:16:06,529 –> 00:16:08,530
impact of having someone so close to the
president but again as far as I know the
572
00:16:08,530 –> 00:16:08,540
president but again as far as I know the
573
00:16:08,540 –> 00:16:10,600
president but again as far as I know the
only example of that in history is John
574
00:16:10,600 –> 00:16:10,610
only example of that in history is John
575
00:16:10,610 –> 00:16:12,490
only example of that in history is John
Brennan right that’s interesting you
576
00:16:12,490 –> 00:16:12,500
Brennan right that’s interesting you
577
00:16:12,500 –> 00:16:13,870
Brennan right that’s interesting you
bring up Brendan I want to ask you about
578
00:16:13,870 –> 00:16:13,880
bring up Brendan I want to ask you about
579
00:16:13,880 –> 00:16:18,340
bring up Brendan I want to ask you about
him from your for your city now as being
580
00:16:18,340 –> 00:16:18,350
him from your for your city now as being
581
00:16:18,350 –> 00:16:19,440
him from your for your city now as being
retired and
582
00:16:19,440 –> 00:16:19,450
retired and
583
00:16:19,450 –> 00:16:21,810
retired and
out of the daily day-to-day routine at
584
00:16:21,810 –> 00:16:21,820
out of the daily day-to-day routine at
585
00:16:21,820 –> 00:16:24,240
out of the daily day-to-day routine at
the CIA watching him operate and what
586
00:16:24,240 –> 00:16:24,250
the CIA watching him operate and what
587
00:16:24,250 –> 00:16:27,990
the CIA watching him operate and what
he’s done with the Congress Brad what do
588
00:16:27,990 –> 00:16:28,000
he’s done with the Congress Brad what do
589
00:16:28,000 –> 00:16:29,940
he’s done with the Congress Brad what do
you what did you feel when you when all
590
00:16:29,940 –> 00:16:29,950
you what did you feel when you when all
591
00:16:29,950 –> 00:16:31,680
you what did you feel when you when all
these things started surfacing about
592
00:16:31,680 –> 00:16:31,690
these things started surfacing about
593
00:16:31,690 –> 00:16:33,840
these things started surfacing about
spying on Americans and things like that
594
00:16:33,840 –> 00:16:33,850
spying on Americans and things like that
595
00:16:33,850 –> 00:16:36,360
spying on Americans and things like that
and what CIA evidently was being used to
596
00:16:36,360 –> 00:16:36,370
and what CIA evidently was being used to
597
00:16:36,370 –> 00:16:38,580
and what CIA evidently was being used to
do during this campaign and again a lot
598
00:16:38,580 –> 00:16:38,590
do during this campaign and again a lot
599
00:16:38,590 –> 00:16:40,710
do during this campaign and again a lot
of this has not been confirmed we’re
600
00:16:40,710 –> 00:16:40,720
of this has not been confirmed we’re
601
00:16:40,720 –> 00:16:43,620
of this has not been confirmed we’re
just it’s allege too you know we as the
602
00:16:43,620 –> 00:16:43,630
just it’s allege too you know we as the
603
00:16:43,630 –> 00:16:45,030
just it’s allege too you know we as the
old saying goes in America and it’s
604
00:16:45,030 –> 00:16:45,040
old saying goes in America and it’s
605
00:16:45,040 –> 00:16:46,950
old saying goes in America and it’s
approving guilty but there’s a lot of
606
00:16:46,950 –> 00:16:46,960
approving guilty but there’s a lot of
607
00:16:46,960 –> 00:16:48,630
approving guilty but there’s a lot of
information in the media that’s come out
608
00:16:48,630 –> 00:16:48,640
information in the media that’s come out
609
00:16:48,640 –> 00:16:50,250
information in the media that’s come out
and a lot of things that have been
610
00:16:50,250 –> 00:16:50,260
and a lot of things that have been
611
00:16:50,260 –> 00:16:52,170
and a lot of things that have been
really contradictory from what Brennan
612
00:16:52,170 –> 00:16:52,180
really contradictory from what Brennan
613
00:16:52,180 –> 00:16:53,730
really contradictory from what Brennan
told Congress to what’s actually been
614
00:16:53,730 –> 00:16:53,740
told Congress to what’s actually been
615
00:16:53,740 –> 00:16:55,620
told Congress to what’s actually been
going on and how do you how do you
616
00:16:55,620 –> 00:16:55,630
going on and how do you how do you
617
00:16:55,630 –> 00:16:57,420
going on and how do you how do you
reconcile all that how do you see that
618
00:16:57,420 –> 00:16:57,430
reconcile all that how do you see that
619
00:16:57,430 –> 00:17:00,450
reconcile all that how do you see that
right now from your your perch well I
620
00:17:00,450 –> 00:17:00,460
right now from your your perch well I
621
00:17:00,460 –> 00:17:02,730
right now from your your perch well I
would I would consider this as
622
00:17:02,730 –> 00:17:02,740
would I would consider this as
623
00:17:02,740 –> 00:17:04,770
would I would consider this as
essentially a continuation of already
624
00:17:04,770 –> 00:17:04,780
essentially a continuation of already
625
00:17:04,780 –> 00:17:06,840
essentially a continuation of already
talking about I think John Brennan was
626
00:17:06,840 –> 00:17:06,850
talking about I think John Brennan was
627
00:17:06,850 –> 00:17:08,310
talking about I think John Brennan was
deeply political I would not be
628
00:17:08,310 –> 00:17:08,320
deeply political I would not be
629
00:17:08,320 –> 00:17:11,460
deeply political I would not be
surprised if what we’re seeing the
630
00:17:11,460 –> 00:17:11,470
surprised if what we’re seeing the
631
00:17:11,470 –> 00:17:14,760
surprised if what we’re seeing the
attack on the president over suppose did
632
00:17:14,760 –> 00:17:14,770
attack on the president over suppose did
633
00:17:14,770 –> 00:17:17,520
attack on the president over suppose did
collusion with the Russians I I think
634
00:17:17,520 –> 00:17:17,530
collusion with the Russians I I think
635
00:17:17,530 –> 00:17:22,770
collusion with the Russians I I think
this was a in many ways something you
636
00:17:22,770 –> 00:17:22,780
this was a in many ways something you
637
00:17:22,780 –> 00:17:24,330
this was a in many ways something you
know and again this is just guessing I
638
00:17:24,330 –> 00:17:24,340
know and again this is just guessing I
639
00:17:24,340 –> 00:17:25,530
know and again this is just guessing I
don’t know I’d have no inside
640
00:17:25,530 –> 00:17:25,540
don’t know I’d have no inside
641
00:17:25,540 –> 00:17:27,060
don’t know I’d have no inside
information earnest I wouldn’t be
642
00:17:27,060 –> 00:17:27,070
information earnest I wouldn’t be
643
00:17:27,070 –> 00:17:30,030
information earnest I wouldn’t be
surprised if essentially the roads all
644
00:17:30,030 –> 00:17:30,040
surprised if essentially the roads all
645
00:17:30,040 –> 00:17:32,850
surprised if essentially the roads all
lead back to John Brennan hmm through
646
00:17:32,850 –> 00:17:32,860
lead back to John Brennan hmm through
647
00:17:32,860 –> 00:17:34,980
lead back to John Brennan hmm through
this and I and I wouldn’t be surprised
648
00:17:34,980 –> 00:17:34,990
this and I and I wouldn’t be surprised
649
00:17:34,990 –> 00:17:37,880
this and I and I wouldn’t be surprised
either if John Brennan would contact
650
00:17:37,880 –> 00:17:37,890
either if John Brennan would contact
651
00:17:37,890 –> 00:17:40,590
either if John Brennan would contact
these issues I mean it remains to be
652
00:17:40,590 –> 00:17:40,600
these issues I mean it remains to be
653
00:17:40,600 –> 00:17:40,860
these issues I mean it remains to be
seen
654
00:17:40,860 –> 00:17:40,870
seen
655
00:17:40,870 –> 00:17:42,540
seen
I don’t know that for a fact but quite
656
00:17:42,540 –> 00:17:42,550
I don’t know that for a fact but quite
657
00:17:42,550 –> 00:17:44,670
I don’t know that for a fact but quite
that feeling is telling me that’s what’s
658
00:17:44,670 –> 00:17:44,680
that feeling is telling me that’s what’s
659
00:17:44,680 –> 00:17:46,980
that feeling is telling me that’s what’s
going to happen and now I’m not the
660
00:17:46,980 –> 00:17:46,990
going to happen and now I’m not the
661
00:17:46,990 –> 00:17:49,170
going to happen and now I’m not the
first to observe this but the IG report
662
00:17:49,170 –> 00:17:49,180
first to observe this but the IG report
663
00:17:49,180 –> 00:17:50,850
first to observe this but the IG report
has been pending for a long time about
664
00:17:50,850 –> 00:17:50,860
has been pending for a long time about
665
00:17:50,860 –> 00:17:52,920
has been pending for a long time about
Hillary Clinton and her the treatment of
666
00:17:52,920 –> 00:17:52,930
Hillary Clinton and her the treatment of
667
00:17:52,930 –> 00:17:54,570
Hillary Clinton and her the treatment of
classified information all that sort of
668
00:17:54,570 –> 00:17:54,580
classified information all that sort of
669
00:17:54,580 –> 00:17:55,050
classified information all that sort of
stuff
670
00:17:55,050 –> 00:17:55,060
stuff
671
00:17:55,060 –> 00:17:57,150
stuff
now most people probably aren’t aware
672
00:17:57,150 –> 00:17:57,160
now most people probably aren’t aware
673
00:17:57,160 –> 00:17:58,890
now most people probably aren’t aware
that when those i-team reports are
674
00:17:58,890 –> 00:17:58,900
that when those i-team reports are
675
00:17:58,900 –> 00:18:00,600
that when those i-team reports are
finished which this has been finished
676
00:18:00,600 –> 00:18:00,610
finished which this has been finished
677
00:18:00,610 –> 00:18:03,060
finished which this has been finished
for weeks when they’re finished every
678
00:18:03,060 –> 00:18:03,070
for weeks when they’re finished every
679
00:18:03,070 –> 00:18:05,070
for weeks when they’re finished every
one mentioned in it is – given a copy to
680
00:18:05,070 –> 00:18:05,080
one mentioned in it is – given a copy to
681
00:18:05,080 –> 00:18:08,160
one mentioned in it is – given a copy to
look at so that IG report has finished
682
00:18:08,160 –> 00:18:08,170
look at so that IG report has finished
683
00:18:08,170 –> 00:18:10,740
look at so that IG report has finished
IG report has been circulating here near
684
00:18:10,740 –> 00:18:10,750
IG report has been circulating here near
685
00:18:10,750 –> 00:18:14,520
IG report has been circulating here near
me on the hill named NBC for weeks and
686
00:18:14,520 –> 00:18:14,530
me on the hill named NBC for weeks and
687
00:18:14,530 –> 00:18:16,590
me on the hill named NBC for weeks and
there’s not been one leak interesting
688
00:18:16,590 –> 00:18:16,600
there’s not been one leak interesting
689
00:18:16,600 –> 00:18:19,500
there’s not been one leak interesting
not one week that’s an extraordinarily
690
00:18:19,500 –> 00:18:19,510
not one week that’s an extraordinarily
691
00:18:19,510 –> 00:18:22,020
not one week that’s an extraordinarily
interesting aspect of this thing yeah
692
00:18:22,020 –> 00:18:22,030
interesting aspect of this thing yeah
693
00:18:22,030 –> 00:18:24,510
interesting aspect of this thing yeah
and you’ve seen a lot of resignations as
694
00:18:24,510 –> 00:18:24,520
and you’ve seen a lot of resignations as
695
00:18:24,520 –> 00:18:26,100
and you’ve seen a lot of resignations as
I said I’m not the first to observe this
696
00:18:26,100 –> 00:18:26,110
I said I’m not the first to observe this
697
00:18:26,110 –> 00:18:28,440
I said I’m not the first to observe this
but a lot of resignations out of the FBI
698
00:18:28,440 –> 00:18:28,450
but a lot of resignations out of the FBI
699
00:18:28,450 –> 00:18:30,850
but a lot of resignations out of the FBI
in different places in the government
700
00:18:30,850 –> 00:18:30,860
in different places in the government
701
00:18:30,860 –> 00:18:32,889
in different places in the government
and I think that means that this IG
702
00:18:32,889 –> 00:18:32,899
and I think that means that this IG
703
00:18:32,899 –> 00:18:34,180
and I think that means that this IG
report is going to damage a lot of
704
00:18:34,180 –> 00:18:34,190
report is going to damage a lot of
705
00:18:34,190 –> 00:18:36,850
report is going to damage a lot of
people severely I make a lot of people
706
00:18:36,850 –> 00:18:36,860
people severely I make a lot of people
707
00:18:36,860 –> 00:18:39,820
people severely I make a lot of people
look bad I personal opinion is this is
708
00:18:39,820 –> 00:18:39,830
look bad I personal opinion is this is
709
00:18:39,830 –> 00:18:41,200
look bad I personal opinion is this is
going to open the floodgates
710
00:18:41,200 –> 00:18:41,210
going to open the floodgates
711
00:18:41,210 –> 00:18:43,299
going to open the floodgates
a lot of people are gonna be in trouble
712
00:18:43,299 –> 00:18:43,309
a lot of people are gonna be in trouble
713
00:18:43,309 –> 00:18:45,519
a lot of people are gonna be in trouble
and and anyone who’s been in law
714
00:18:45,519 –> 00:18:45,529
and and anyone who’s been in law
715
00:18:45,529 –> 00:18:47,049
and and anyone who’s been in law
enforcement which then I’m intelligence
716
00:18:47,049 –> 00:18:47,059
enforcement which then I’m intelligence
717
00:18:47,059 –> 00:18:48,690
enforcement which then I’m intelligence
background but this is law enforcement
718
00:18:48,690 –> 00:18:48,700
background but this is law enforcement
719
00:18:48,700 –> 00:18:52,000
background but this is law enforcement
101 you go arrest all the low-level guys
720
00:18:52,000 –> 00:18:52,010
101 you go arrest all the low-level guys
721
00:18:52,010 –> 00:18:53,590
101 you go arrest all the low-level guys
and flip them you know and make them
722
00:18:53,590 –> 00:18:53,600
and flip them you know and make them
723
00:18:53,600 –> 00:18:55,899
and flip them you know and make them
then start taking you up the chain and
724
00:18:55,899 –> 00:18:55,909
then start taking you up the chain and
725
00:18:55,909 –> 00:18:58,630
then start taking you up the chain and
and my personal no this is just strictly
726
00:18:58,630 –> 00:18:58,640
and my personal no this is just strictly
727
00:18:58,640 –> 00:19:01,240
and my personal no this is just strictly
personal again no inside information my
728
00:19:01,240 –> 00:19:01,250
personal again no inside information my
729
00:19:01,250 –> 00:19:02,740
personal again no inside information my
prediction is that you’re gonna see
730
00:19:02,740 –> 00:19:02,750
prediction is that you’re gonna see
731
00:19:02,750 –> 00:19:04,330
prediction is that you’re gonna see
James clapper be thrown under the bus
732
00:19:04,330 –> 00:19:04,340
James clapper be thrown under the bus
733
00:19:04,340 –> 00:19:07,600
James clapper be thrown under the bus
first senior devised because I don’t
734
00:19:07,600 –> 00:19:07,610
first senior devised because I don’t
735
00:19:07,610 –> 00:19:09,909
first senior devised because I don’t
think he’s throw put it that way you
736
00:19:09,909 –> 00:19:09,919
think he’s throw put it that way you
737
00:19:09,919 –> 00:19:11,799
think he’s throw put it that way you
know he doesn’t have I don’t think the
738
00:19:11,799 –> 00:19:11,809
know he doesn’t have I don’t think the
739
00:19:11,809 –> 00:19:13,330
know he doesn’t have I don’t think the
depth of protection that some of these
740
00:19:13,330 –> 00:19:13,340
depth of protection that some of these
741
00:19:13,340 –> 00:19:15,610
depth of protection that some of these
other guys do so right I think that’s
742
00:19:15,610 –> 00:19:15,620
other guys do so right I think that’s
743
00:19:15,620 –> 00:19:16,779
other guys do so right I think that’s
where you’re what you’re gonna see first
744
00:19:16,779 –> 00:19:16,789
where you’re what you’re gonna see first
745
00:19:16,789 –> 00:19:19,149
where you’re what you’re gonna see first
and what does he do when he gets faced
746
00:19:19,149 –> 00:19:19,159
and what does he do when he gets faced
747
00:19:19,159 –> 00:19:20,529
and what does he do when he gets faced
with problems because there’s a lot of
748
00:19:20,529 –> 00:19:20,539
with problems because there’s a lot of
749
00:19:20,539 –> 00:19:24,340
with problems because there’s a lot of
things they’ve done that that are
750
00:19:24,340 –> 00:19:24,350
things they’ve done that that are
751
00:19:24,350 –> 00:19:26,019
things they’ve done that that are
essentially illegal you know and and
752
00:19:26,019 –> 00:19:26,029
essentially illegal you know and and
753
00:19:26,029 –> 00:19:28,750
essentially illegal you know and and
these the Spygate issue as it’s being
754
00:19:28,750 –> 00:19:28,760
these the Spygate issue as it’s being
755
00:19:28,760 –> 00:19:32,649
these the Spygate issue as it’s being
termed now in intelligence if if you
756
00:19:32,649 –> 00:19:32,659
termed now in intelligence if if you
757
00:19:32,659 –> 00:19:34,539
termed now in intelligence if if you
have an organization and I’m going to
758
00:19:34,539 –> 00:19:34,549
have an organization and I’m going to
759
00:19:34,549 –> 00:19:36,730
have an organization and I’m going to
put a reporting source a human reporting
760
00:19:36,730 –> 00:19:36,740
put a reporting source a human reporting
761
00:19:36,740 –> 00:19:40,120
put a reporting source a human reporting
source in that organization I’m a part
762
00:19:40,120 –> 00:19:40,130
source in that organization I’m a part
763
00:19:40,130 –> 00:19:42,850
source in that organization I’m a part
of a law to go to the head of the
764
00:19:42,850 –> 00:19:42,860
of a law to go to the head of the
765
00:19:42,860 –> 00:19:44,649
of a law to go to the head of the
organization and tell them hey we’re
766
00:19:44,649 –> 00:19:44,659
organization and tell them hey we’re
767
00:19:44,659 –> 00:19:47,039
organization and tell them hey we’re
putting somebody in there if I don’t
768
00:19:47,039 –> 00:19:47,049
putting somebody in there if I don’t
769
00:19:47,049 –> 00:19:49,389
putting somebody in there if I don’t
let’s tell that person that we’re
770
00:19:49,389 –> 00:19:49,399
let’s tell that person that we’re
771
00:19:49,399 –> 00:19:50,769
let’s tell that person that we’re
putting somebody in there that means I’m
772
00:19:50,769 –> 00:19:50,779
putting somebody in there that means I’m
773
00:19:50,779 –> 00:19:53,889
putting somebody in there that means I’m
spying on you so the FBI knows all about
774
00:19:53,889 –> 00:19:53,899
spying on you so the FBI knows all about
775
00:19:53,899 –> 00:19:56,019
spying on you so the FBI knows all about
and for them to have done that anyway
776
00:19:56,019 –> 00:19:56,029
and for them to have done that anyway
777
00:19:56,029 –> 00:20:00,100
and for them to have done that anyway
with DOJ past but for them to have done
778
00:20:00,100 –> 00:20:00,110
with DOJ past but for them to have done
779
00:20:00,110 –> 00:20:00,610
with DOJ past but for them to have done
that
780
00:20:00,610 –> 00:20:00,620
that
781
00:20:00,620 –> 00:20:02,470
that
that means this is this is something
782
00:20:02,470 –> 00:20:02,480
that means this is this is something
783
00:20:02,480 –> 00:20:04,450
that means this is this is something
different and what they’ve done to
784
00:20:04,450 –> 00:20:04,460
different and what they’ve done to
785
00:20:04,460 –> 00:20:06,850
different and what they’ve done to
bypass the law what they did was use
786
00:20:06,850 –> 00:20:06,860
bypass the law what they did was use
787
00:20:06,860 –> 00:20:10,720
bypass the law what they did was use
FISA now vice is not set up to do this
788
00:20:10,720 –> 00:20:10,730
FISA now vice is not set up to do this
789
00:20:10,730 –> 00:20:12,610
FISA now vice is not set up to do this
sort of thing so that means almost
790
00:20:12,610 –> 00:20:12,620
sort of thing so that means almost
791
00:20:12,620 –> 00:20:14,980
sort of thing so that means almost
certainly in order to get this done they
792
00:20:14,980 –> 00:20:14,990
certainly in order to get this done they
793
00:20:14,990 –> 00:20:19,320
certainly in order to get this done they
have to have gone into this with proof
794
00:20:19,320 –> 00:20:19,330
have to have gone into this with proof
795
00:20:19,330 –> 00:20:22,269
have to have gone into this with proof
in hand already that they needed to
796
00:20:22,269 –> 00:20:22,279
in hand already that they needed to
797
00:20:22,279 –> 00:20:23,620
in hand already that they needed to
bring to a level where they could take
798
00:20:23,620 –> 00:20:23,630
bring to a level where they could take
799
00:20:23,630 –> 00:20:25,480
bring to a level where they could take
it into a court of law now that’s not
800
00:20:25,480 –> 00:20:25,490
it into a court of law now that’s not
801
00:20:25,490 –> 00:20:27,159
it into a court of law now that’s not
going to be forthcoming and you’ve seen
802
00:20:27,159 –> 00:20:27,169
going to be forthcoming and you’ve seen
803
00:20:27,169 –> 00:20:28,990
going to be forthcoming and you’ve seen
them and the reason I can tell you for
804
00:20:28,990 –> 00:20:29,000
them and the reason I can tell you for
805
00:20:29,000 –> 00:20:31,330
them and the reason I can tell you for
sure it’s not forthcoming is because
806
00:20:31,330 –> 00:20:31,340
sure it’s not forthcoming is because
807
00:20:31,340 –> 00:20:34,539
sure it’s not forthcoming is because
they’ve fought tooth and nail to give
808
00:20:34,539 –> 00:20:34,549
they’ve fought tooth and nail to give
809
00:20:34,549 –> 00:20:37,259
they’ve fought tooth and nail to give
that that what empowered the Mueller
810
00:20:37,259 –> 00:20:37,269
that that what empowered the Mueller
811
00:20:37,269 –> 00:20:40,820
that that what empowered the Mueller
investigation began and what caught got
812
00:20:40,820 –> 00:20:40,830
investigation began and what caught got
813
00:20:40,830 –> 00:20:43,010
investigation began and what caught got
get that FISA Court approval for the spy
814
00:20:43,010 –> 00:20:43,020
get that FISA Court approval for the spy
815
00:20:43,020 –> 00:20:45,650
get that FISA Court approval for the spy
right isn’t even being disclosed to
816
00:20:45,650 –> 00:20:45,660
right isn’t even being disclosed to
817
00:20:45,660 –> 00:20:47,090
right isn’t even being disclosed to
Oversight Committee people who have the
818
00:20:47,090 –> 00:20:47,100
Oversight Committee people who have the
819
00:20:47,100 –> 00:20:49,850
Oversight Committee people who have the
full right and responsibility to see it
820
00:20:49,850 –> 00:20:49,860
full right and responsibility to see it
821
00:20:49,860 –> 00:20:52,160
full right and responsibility to see it
so you know that the proof that they
822
00:20:52,160 –> 00:20:52,170
so you know that the proof that they
823
00:20:52,170 –> 00:20:54,980
so you know that the proof that they
what they need is not there so how can
824
00:20:54,980 –> 00:20:54,990
what they need is not there so how can
825
00:20:54,990 –> 00:20:56,690
what they need is not there so how can
they stay out of trouble on this it’s
826
00:20:56,690 –> 00:20:56,700
they stay out of trouble on this it’s
827
00:20:56,700 –> 00:20:58,670
they stay out of trouble on this it’s
just it just can’t happen somebody’s
828
00:20:58,670 –> 00:20:58,680
just it just can’t happen somebody’s
829
00:20:58,680 –> 00:21:00,530
just it just can’t happen somebody’s
gonna go down over this thing unless
830
00:21:00,530 –> 00:21:00,540
gonna go down over this thing unless
831
00:21:00,540 –> 00:21:03,260
gonna go down over this thing unless
it’s a massive cover-up which we see you
832
00:21:03,260 –> 00:21:03,270
it’s a massive cover-up which we see you
833
00:21:03,270 –> 00:21:05,390
it’s a massive cover-up which we see you
know the you know the Washington DC
834
00:21:05,390 –> 00:21:05,400
know the you know the Washington DC
835
00:21:05,400 –> 00:21:07,610
know the you know the Washington DC
elites protect themselves no survivalism
836
00:21:07,610 –> 00:21:07,620
elites protect themselves no survivalism
837
00:21:07,620 –> 00:21:09,680
elites protect themselves no survivalism
you’ll see Democrats and Republicans
838
00:21:09,680 –> 00:21:09,690
you’ll see Democrats and Republicans
839
00:21:09,690 –> 00:21:11,270
you’ll see Democrats and Republicans
work together to circle the wagons
840
00:21:11,270 –> 00:21:11,280
work together to circle the wagons
841
00:21:11,280 –> 00:21:14,030
work together to circle the wagons
sometimes it’ll be cheating the American
842
00:21:14,030 –> 00:21:14,040
sometimes it’ll be cheating the American
843
00:21:14,040 –> 00:21:15,380
sometimes it’ll be cheating the American
public and I think the American public
844
00:21:15,380 –> 00:21:15,390
public and I think the American public
845
00:21:15,390 –> 00:21:16,810
public and I think the American public
is now in a little bit different
846
00:21:16,810 –> 00:21:16,820
is now in a little bit different
847
00:21:16,820 –> 00:21:18,890
is now in a little bit different
position and I think they’re pissed I’m
848
00:21:18,890 –> 00:21:18,900
position and I think they’re pissed I’m
849
00:21:18,900 –> 00:21:22,220
position and I think they’re pissed I’m
pissed I want to I don’t want to see any
850
00:21:22,220 –> 00:21:22,230
pissed I want to I don’t want to see any
851
00:21:22,230 –> 00:21:23,780
pissed I want to I don’t want to see any
more of this getting away with whatever
852
00:21:23,780 –> 00:21:23,790
more of this getting away with whatever
853
00:21:23,790 –> 00:21:26,780
more of this getting away with whatever
the hell they want I’m sure my audience
854
00:21:26,780 –> 00:21:26,790
the hell they want I’m sure my audience
855
00:21:26,790 –> 00:21:28,430
the hell they want I’m sure my audience
tonight if we can raise your hand in the
856
00:21:28,430 –> 00:21:28,440
tonight if we can raise your hand in the
857
00:21:28,440 –> 00:21:29,600
tonight if we can raise your hand in the
audience that may you’re pissed out
858
00:21:29,600 –> 00:21:29,610
audience that may you’re pissed out
859
00:21:29,610 –> 00:21:31,160
audience that may you’re pissed out
there I probably got about a thousand
860
00:21:31,160 –> 00:21:31,170
there I probably got about a thousand
861
00:21:31,170 –> 00:21:34,790
there I probably got about a thousand
hands though got a question for you
862
00:21:34,790 –> 00:21:34,800
hands though got a question for you
863
00:21:34,800 –> 00:21:36,530
hands though got a question for you
brought some initiative point up this is
864
00:21:36,530 –> 00:21:36,540
brought some initiative point up this is
865
00:21:36,540 –> 00:21:38,210
brought some initiative point up this is
it may sound like a same question Ashton
866
00:21:38,210 –> 00:21:38,220
it may sound like a same question Ashton
867
00:21:38,220 –> 00:21:40,300
it may sound like a same question Ashton
while ago but it’s a little different
868
00:21:40,300 –> 00:21:40,310
while ago but it’s a little different
869
00:21:40,310 –> 00:21:44,510
while ago but it’s a little different
how how much do we have to believe or
870
00:21:44,510 –> 00:21:44,520
how how much do we have to believe or
871
00:21:44,520 –> 00:21:46,190
how how much do we have to believe or
how much can we put faith in the fact
872
00:21:46,190 –> 00:21:46,200
how much can we put faith in the fact
873
00:21:46,200 –> 00:21:48,500
how much can we put faith in the fact
that a CIA director that the president
874
00:21:48,500 –> 00:21:48,510
that a CIA director that the president
875
00:21:48,510 –> 00:21:51,080
that a CIA director that the president
knows what his CIA directors doing in my
876
00:21:51,080 –> 00:21:51,090
knows what his CIA directors doing in my
877
00:21:51,090 –> 00:21:53,600
knows what his CIA directors doing in my
resume asking this question because a
878
00:21:53,600 –> 00:21:53,610
resume asking this question because a
879
00:21:53,610 –> 00:21:55,610
resume asking this question because a
lot of people are wondering is this
880
00:21:55,610 –> 00:21:55,620
lot of people are wondering is this
881
00:21:55,620 –> 00:21:58,040
lot of people are wondering is this
gonna wind up back not just to Brennan
882
00:21:58,040 –> 00:21:58,050
gonna wind up back not just to Brennan
883
00:21:58,050 –> 00:22:00,770
gonna wind up back not just to Brennan
but in Obama’s laughs because Obama had
884
00:22:00,770 –> 00:22:00,780
but in Obama’s laughs because Obama had
885
00:22:00,780 –> 00:22:03,320
but in Obama’s laughs because Obama had
to know somewhat what he was doing
886
00:22:03,320 –> 00:22:03,330
to know somewhat what he was doing
887
00:22:03,330 –> 00:22:06,320
to know somewhat what he was doing
correct I mean is that it is that normal
888
00:22:06,320 –> 00:22:06,330
correct I mean is that it is that normal
889
00:22:06,330 –> 00:22:08,450
correct I mean is that it is that normal
I mean is it his argument well it stops
890
00:22:08,450 –> 00:22:08,460
I mean is it his argument well it stops
891
00:22:08,460 –> 00:22:10,700
I mean is it his argument well it stops
with me the president know about it does
892
00:22:10,700 –> 00:22:10,710
with me the president know about it does
893
00:22:10,710 –> 00:22:12,590
with me the president know about it does
that does that smell clean to you that
894
00:22:12,590 –> 00:22:12,600
that does that smell clean to you that
895
00:22:12,600 –> 00:22:14,270
that does that smell clean to you that
that’s never smelt right I feel like the
896
00:22:14,270 –> 00:22:14,280
that’s never smelt right I feel like the
897
00:22:14,280 –> 00:22:15,890
that’s never smelt right I feel like the
president’s always had know what’s going
898
00:22:15,890 –> 00:22:15,900
president’s always had know what’s going
899
00:22:15,900 –> 00:22:18,200
president’s always had know what’s going
on with CIA directors that am I wrong
900
00:22:18,200 –> 00:22:18,210
on with CIA directors that am I wrong
901
00:22:18,210 –> 00:22:20,930
on with CIA directors that am I wrong
there but certainly mostly teachers and
902
00:22:20,930 –> 00:22:20,940
there but certainly mostly teachers and
903
00:22:20,940 –> 00:22:25,280
there but certainly mostly teachers and
since the 70s when you have the Church
904
00:22:25,280 –> 00:22:25,290
since the 70s when you have the Church
905
00:22:25,290 –> 00:22:28,970
since the 70s when you have the Church
Commission where Faisal Court was
906
00:22:28,970 –> 00:22:28,980
Commission where Faisal Court was
907
00:22:28,980 –> 00:22:32,210
Commission where Faisal Court was
created and and and all the laws changed
908
00:22:32,210 –> 00:22:32,220
created and and and all the laws changed
909
00:22:32,220 –> 00:22:33,800
created and and and all the laws changed
and he created the oversight committees
910
00:22:33,800 –> 00:22:33,810
and he created the oversight committees
911
00:22:33,810 –> 00:22:36,260
and he created the oversight committees
I would say since that period in
912
00:22:36,260 –> 00:22:36,270
I would say since that period in
913
00:22:36,270 –> 00:22:39,200
I would say since that period in
particular you’ve seen the CIA director
914
00:22:39,200 –> 00:22:39,210
particular you’ve seen the CIA director
915
00:22:39,210 –> 00:22:41,390
particular you’ve seen the CIA director
gogo constantly to the President and
916
00:22:41,390 –> 00:22:41,400
gogo constantly to the President and
917
00:22:41,400 –> 00:22:43,460
gogo constantly to the President and
keep him informed of everything going on
918
00:22:43,460 –> 00:22:43,470
keep him informed of everything going on
919
00:22:43,470 –> 00:22:45,410
keep him informed of everything going on
because he’s got these checks and
920
00:22:45,410 –> 00:22:45,420
because he’s got these checks and
921
00:22:45,420 –> 00:22:47,330
because he’s got these checks and
balances now and the only line of
922
00:22:47,330 –> 00:22:47,340
balances now and the only line of
923
00:22:47,340 –> 00:22:49,370
balances now and the only line of
authority and protection that the CIA
924
00:22:49,370 –> 00:22:49,380
authority and protection that the CIA
925
00:22:49,380 –> 00:22:51,140
authority and protection that the CIA
has through the press for the
926
00:22:51,140 –> 00:22:51,150
has through the press for the
927
00:22:51,150 –> 00:22:52,140
has through the press for the
president’s office
928
00:22:52,140 –> 00:22:52,150
president’s office
929
00:22:52,150 –> 00:22:54,660
president’s office
so I think since then certainly so now
930
00:22:54,660 –> 00:22:54,670
so I think since then certainly so now
931
00:22:54,670 –> 00:22:59,820
so I think since then certainly so now
is it conceivable that that a director
932
00:22:59,820 –> 00:22:59,830
is it conceivable that that a director
933
00:22:59,830 –> 00:23:03,240
is it conceivable that that a director
of the CIA would hide sort of major
934
00:23:03,240 –> 00:23:03,250
of the CIA would hide sort of major
935
00:23:03,250 –> 00:23:05,370
of the CIA would hide sort of major
project I mean it’s it’s it’s
936
00:23:05,370 –> 00:23:05,380
project I mean it’s it’s it’s
937
00:23:05,380 –> 00:23:06,990
project I mean it’s it’s it’s
conceivable but I would say
938
00:23:06,990 –> 00:23:07,000
conceivable but I would say
939
00:23:07,000 –> 00:23:09,930
conceivable but I would say
extraordinarily unlikely and in in all
940
00:23:09,930 –> 00:23:09,940
extraordinarily unlikely and in in all
941
00:23:09,940 –> 00:23:13,020
extraordinarily unlikely and in in all
normal cases of any kind former director
942
00:23:13,020 –> 00:23:13,030
normal cases of any kind former director
943
00:23:13,030 –> 00:23:14,250
normal cases of any kind former director
bring and would have almost certainly
944
00:23:14,250 –> 00:23:14,260
bring and would have almost certainly
945
00:23:14,260 –> 00:23:16,320
bring and would have almost certainly
gone to President Obama on these sorts
946
00:23:16,320 –> 00:23:16,330
gone to President Obama on these sorts
947
00:23:16,330 –> 00:23:20,340
gone to President Obama on these sorts
of things at least an initial discussion
948
00:23:20,340 –> 00:23:20,350
of things at least an initial discussion
949
00:23:20,350 –> 00:23:23,100
of things at least an initial discussion
and sort of play out the logic that
950
00:23:23,100 –> 00:23:23,110
and sort of play out the logic that
951
00:23:23,110 –> 00:23:24,870
and sort of play out the logic that
they’re using to implement a program
952
00:23:24,870 –> 00:23:24,880
they’re using to implement a program
953
00:23:24,880 –> 00:23:27,360
they’re using to implement a program
that’s certainly at that level now once
954
00:23:27,360 –> 00:23:27,370
that’s certainly at that level now once
955
00:23:27,370 –> 00:23:28,890
that’s certainly at that level now once
it gets implemented you know the
956
00:23:28,890 –> 00:23:28,900
it gets implemented you know the
957
00:23:28,900 –> 00:23:30,840
it gets implemented you know the
president doesn’t care about day-to-day
958
00:23:30,840 –> 00:23:30,850
president doesn’t care about day-to-day
959
00:23:30,850 –> 00:23:33,570
president doesn’t care about day-to-day
details so much survive those are then
960
00:23:33,570 –> 00:23:33,580
details so much survive those are then
961
00:23:33,580 –> 00:23:35,160
details so much survive those are then
it would start to drop off but sturdy
962
00:23:35,160 –> 00:23:35,170
it would start to drop off but sturdy
963
00:23:35,170 –> 00:23:37,770
it would start to drop off but sturdy
getting the National box check saying
964
00:23:37,770 –> 00:23:37,780
getting the National box check saying
965
00:23:37,780 –> 00:23:40,710
getting the National box check saying
yes sir we’re going forward you need
966
00:23:40,710 –> 00:23:40,720
yes sir we’re going forward you need
967
00:23:40,720 –> 00:23:44,850
yes sir we’re going forward you need
that so I would say very very very
968
00:23:44,850 –> 00:23:44,860
that so I would say very very very
969
00:23:44,860 –> 00:23:46,410
that so I would say very very very
unlikely that something of this nature
970
00:23:46,410 –> 00:23:46,420
unlikely that something of this nature
971
00:23:46,420 –> 00:23:48,600
unlikely that something of this nature
could have been started without it going
972
00:23:48,600 –> 00:23:48,610
could have been started without it going
973
00:23:48,610 –> 00:23:52,320
could have been started without it going
to the White House so I like I said I
974
00:23:52,320 –> 00:23:52,330
to the White House so I like I said I
975
00:23:52,330 –> 00:23:53,580
to the White House so I like I said I
think all roads lead back to John
976
00:23:53,580 –> 00:23:53,590
think all roads lead back to John
977
00:23:53,590 –> 00:23:56,550
think all roads lead back to John
Brennan I think the former President
978
00:23:56,550 –> 00:23:56,560
Brennan I think the former President
979
00:23:56,560 –> 00:23:59,040
Brennan I think the former President
Obama would almost certainly have to be
980
00:23:59,040 –> 00:23:59,050
Obama would almost certainly have to be
981
00:23:59,050 –> 00:24:02,040
Obama would almost certainly have to be
informed of these things can a be proven
982
00:24:02,040 –> 00:24:02,050
informed of these things can a be proven
983
00:24:02,050 –> 00:24:04,350
informed of these things can a be proven
is it illegal all that remains to be
984
00:24:04,350 –> 00:24:04,360
is it illegal all that remains to be
985
00:24:04,360 –> 00:24:08,340
is it illegal all that remains to be
seen don’t know but I think it’s gonna
986
00:24:08,340 –> 00:24:08,350
seen don’t know but I think it’s gonna
987
00:24:08,350 –> 00:24:09,960
seen don’t know but I think it’s gonna
get at least as far as James clapper and
988
00:24:09,960 –> 00:24:09,970
get at least as far as James clapper and
989
00:24:09,970 –> 00:24:12,960
get at least as far as James clapper and
John Brennan and probably Jim clapper to
990
00:24:12,960 –> 00:24:12,970
John Brennan and probably Jim clapper to
991
00:24:12,970 –> 00:24:17,690
John Brennan and probably Jim clapper to
I mean I’m a former FBI director combing
992
00:24:17,690 –> 00:24:17,700
I mean I’m a former FBI director combing
993
00:24:17,700 –> 00:24:20,540
I mean I’m a former FBI director combing
and you say clapper going into the bus
994
00:24:20,540 –> 00:24:20,550
and you say clapper going into the bus
995
00:24:20,550 –> 00:24:23,070
and you say clapper going into the bus
my personal prediction is that the first
996
00:24:23,070 –> 00:24:23,080
my personal prediction is that the first
997
00:24:23,080 –> 00:24:24,990
my personal prediction is that the first
guy at a senior level that’s gonna go to
998
00:24:24,990 –> 00:24:25,000
guy at a senior level that’s gonna go to
999
00:24:25,000 –> 00:24:27,330
guy at a senior level that’s gonna go to
the buses clapper okay I think he’s
1000
00:24:27,330 –> 00:24:27,340
the buses clapper okay I think he’s
1001
00:24:27,340 –> 00:24:31,260
the buses clapper okay I think he’s
strong well I just do it just think he’s
1002
00:24:31,260 –> 00:24:31,270
strong well I just do it just think he’s
1003
00:24:31,270 –> 00:24:32,490
strong well I just do it just think he’s
the guy that they were all look getting
1004
00:24:32,490 –> 00:24:32,500
the guy that they were all look getting
1005
00:24:32,500 –> 00:24:36,750
the guy that they were all look getting
them sacrifice him interesting this is
1006
00:24:36,750 –> 00:24:36,760
them sacrifice him interesting this is
1007
00:24:36,760 –> 00:24:39,290
them sacrifice him interesting this is
an opinion question I’m take you back
1008
00:24:39,290 –> 00:24:39,300
an opinion question I’m take you back
1009
00:24:39,300 –> 00:24:42,270
an opinion question I’m take you back
probably I think it was October 2016 or
1010
00:24:42,270 –> 00:24:42,280
probably I think it was October 2016 or
1011
00:24:42,280 –> 00:24:44,580
probably I think it was October 2016 or
that Rose Garden press conference when
1012
00:24:44,580 –> 00:24:44,590
that Rose Garden press conference when
1013
00:24:44,590 –> 00:24:49,530
that Rose Garden press conference when
in president Truong first alleged say
1014
00:24:49,530 –> 00:24:49,540
in president Truong first alleged say
1015
00:24:49,540 –> 00:24:52,470
in president Truong first alleged say
alleged but he he basically said that he
1016
00:24:52,470 –> 00:24:52,480
alleged but he he basically said that he
1017
00:24:52,480 –> 00:24:54,780
alleged but he he basically said that he
was felt like that our elections were
1018
00:24:54,780 –> 00:24:54,790
was felt like that our elections were
1019
00:24:54,790 –> 00:24:56,850
was felt like that our elections were
being interfered with and the and and
1020
00:24:56,850 –> 00:24:56,860
being interfered with and the and and
1021
00:24:56,860 –> 00:24:59,370
being interfered with and the and and
you know Obama made it a political
1022
00:24:59,370 –> 00:24:59,380
you know Obama made it a political
1023
00:24:59,380 –> 00:25:01,950
you know Obama made it a political
football and said well you know mr.
1024
00:25:01,950 –> 00:25:01,960
football and said well you know mr.
1025
00:25:01,960 –> 00:25:04,080
football and said well you know mr.
Trump there’s no way that the American
1026
00:25:04,080 –> 00:25:04,090
Trump there’s no way that the American
1027
00:25:04,090 –> 00:25:06,000
Trump there’s no way that the American
intellectual process would ever
1028
00:25:06,000 –> 00:25:06,010
intellectual process would ever
1029
00:25:06,010 –> 00:25:07,710
intellectual process would ever
compromise and we’ve got too many
1030
00:25:07,710 –> 00:25:07,720
compromise and we’ve got too many
1031
00:25:07,720 –> 00:25:09,450
compromise and we’ve got too many
protections in place for the Russians to
1032
00:25:09,450 –> 00:25:09,460
protections in place for the Russians to
1033
00:25:09,460 –> 00:25:12,150
protections in place for the Russians to
ever do anything like that while knowing
1034
00:25:12,150 –> 00:25:12,160
ever do anything like that while knowing
1035
00:25:12,160 –> 00:25:13,860
ever do anything like that while knowing
in that press conference that the
1036
00:25:13,860 –> 00:25:13,870
in that press conference that the
1037
00:25:13,870 –> 00:25:16,200
in that press conference that the
Russians were meddling in our elections
1038
00:25:16,200 –> 00:25:16,210
Russians were meddling in our elections
1039
00:25:16,210 –> 00:25:18,360
Russians were meddling in our elections
but they weren’t just meddling in the
1040
00:25:18,360 –> 00:25:18,370
but they weren’t just meddling in the
1041
00:25:18,370 –> 00:25:19,950
but they weren’t just meddling in the
Trump affair they were meddling with the
1042
00:25:19,950 –> 00:25:19,960
Trump affair they were meddling with the
1043
00:25:19,960 –> 00:25:24,680
Trump affair they were meddling with the
Democrats and from the CIA’s perspective
1044
00:25:24,680 –> 00:25:24,690
Democrats and from the CIA’s perspective
1045
00:25:24,690 –> 00:25:27,840
Democrats and from the CIA’s perspective
if President Obama knew that and he
1046
00:25:27,840 –> 00:25:27,850
if President Obama knew that and he
1047
00:25:27,850 –> 00:25:31,050
if President Obama knew that and he
didn’t reveal that to the nation and
1048
00:25:31,050 –> 00:25:31,060
didn’t reveal that to the nation and
1049
00:25:31,060 –> 00:25:32,520
didn’t reveal that to the nation and
didn’t reveal that to the threat to the
1050
00:25:32,520 –> 00:25:32,530
didn’t reveal that to the threat to the
1051
00:25:32,530 –> 00:25:38,610
didn’t reveal that to the threat to the
Trump campaign but was that wrong yeah
1052
00:25:38,610 –> 00:25:38,620
Trump campaign but was that wrong yeah
1053
00:25:38,620 –> 00:25:40,290
Trump campaign but was that wrong yeah
and you’re getting back at to something
1054
00:25:40,290 –> 00:25:40,300
and you’re getting back at to something
1055
00:25:40,300 –> 00:25:42,570
and you’re getting back at to something
I had kind of touched on earlier and
1056
00:25:42,570 –> 00:25:42,580
I had kind of touched on earlier and
1057
00:25:42,580 –> 00:25:44,100
I had kind of touched on earlier and
that’s that by law they would be
1058
00:25:44,100 –> 00:25:44,110
that’s that by law they would be
1059
00:25:44,110 –> 00:25:47,220
that’s that by law they would be
required to go to the President Trump
1060
00:25:47,220 –> 00:25:47,230
required to go to the President Trump
1061
00:25:47,230 –> 00:25:49,500
required to go to the President Trump
because it was they were spying on the
1062
00:25:49,500 –> 00:25:49,510
because it was they were spying on the
1063
00:25:49,510 –> 00:25:50,730
because it was they were spying on the
campaign they would have been obligated
1064
00:25:50,730 –> 00:25:50,740
campaign they would have been obligated
1065
00:25:50,740 –> 00:25:52,830
campaign they would have been obligated
if they think the Russians were active
1066
00:25:52,830 –> 00:25:52,840
if they think the Russians were active
1067
00:25:52,840 –> 00:25:54,870
if they think the Russians were active
in there they would have been required
1068
00:25:54,870 –> 00:25:54,880
in there they would have been required
1069
00:25:54,880 –> 00:25:57,510
in there they would have been required
to go to president Trump and and get the
1070
00:25:57,510 –> 00:25:57,520
to go to president Trump and and get the
1071
00:25:57,520 –> 00:25:58,800
to go to president Trump and and get the
okay let him know that that’s what
1072
00:25:58,800 –> 00:25:58,810
okay let him know that that’s what
1073
00:25:58,810 –> 00:26:00,450
okay let him know that that’s what
they’re working on fbi’s absolutely
1074
00:26:00,450 –> 00:26:00,460
they’re working on fbi’s absolutely
1075
00:26:00,460 –> 00:26:03,030
they’re working on fbi’s absolutely
required to do that thank you so I think
1076
00:26:03,030 –> 00:26:03,040
required to do that thank you so I think
1077
00:26:03,040 –> 00:26:05,280
required to do that thank you so I think
what’s happened again speculation on my
1078
00:26:05,280 –> 00:26:05,290
what’s happened again speculation on my
1079
00:26:05,290 –> 00:26:07,290
what’s happened again speculation on my
part but I think what they did at the
1080
00:26:07,290 –> 00:26:07,300
part but I think what they did at the
1081
00:26:07,300 –> 00:26:08,640
part but I think what they did at the
Times they thought that they could get
1082
00:26:08,640 –> 00:26:08,650
Times they thought that they could get
1083
00:26:08,650 –> 00:26:10,800
Times they thought that they could get
away with it by going through FISA to
1084
00:26:10,800 –> 00:26:10,810
away with it by going through FISA to
1085
00:26:10,810 –> 00:26:15,570
away with it by going through FISA to
cover up what they were doing so excuse
1086
00:26:15,570 –> 00:26:15,580
cover up what they were doing so excuse
1087
00:26:15,580 –> 00:26:19,590
cover up what they were doing so excuse
me so I like I said I think that all of
1088
00:26:19,590 –> 00:26:19,600
me so I like I said I think that all of
1089
00:26:19,600 –> 00:26:21,720
me so I like I said I think that all of
this is coming unraveled and I think the
1090
00:26:21,720 –> 00:26:21,730
this is coming unraveled and I think the
1091
00:26:21,730 –> 00:26:23,850
this is coming unraveled and I think the
reason you see for example John Brennan
1092
00:26:23,850 –> 00:26:23,860
reason you see for example John Brennan
1093
00:26:23,860 –> 00:26:27,030
reason you see for example John Brennan
former CIA director Brennan so vehement
1094
00:26:27,030 –> 00:26:27,040
former CIA director Brennan so vehement
1095
00:26:27,040 –> 00:26:30,360
former CIA director Brennan so vehement
on TV and in these interviews and stuff
1096
00:26:30,360 –> 00:26:30,370
on TV and in these interviews and stuff
1097
00:26:30,370 –> 00:26:32,910
on TV and in these interviews and stuff
and it’s criticism of West and Trump is
1098
00:26:32,910 –> 00:26:32,920
and it’s criticism of West and Trump is
1099
00:26:32,920 –> 00:26:34,260
and it’s criticism of West and Trump is
that he’s fighting for his life
1100
00:26:34,260 –> 00:26:34,270
that he’s fighting for his life
1101
00:26:34,270 –> 00:26:37,380
that he’s fighting for his life
I think he’s against any possible future
1102
00:26:37,380 –> 00:26:37,390
I think he’s against any possible future
1103
00:26:37,390 –> 00:26:39,090
I think he’s against any possible future
criminal charges and certainly his
1104
00:26:39,090 –> 00:26:39,100
criminal charges and certainly his
1105
00:26:39,100 –> 00:26:41,700
criminal charges and certainly his
political career I think you know he
1106
00:26:41,700 –> 00:26:41,710
political career I think you know he
1107
00:26:41,710 –> 00:26:43,080
political career I think you know he
thought that he was going to be the CIA
1108
00:26:43,080 –> 00:26:43,090
thought that he was going to be the CIA
1109
00:26:43,090 –> 00:26:49,830
thought that he was going to be the CIA
director under Washington DC have you
1110
00:26:49,830 –> 00:26:49,840
director under Washington DC have you
1111
00:26:49,840 –> 00:26:52,140
director under Washington DC have you
seen anything so corrupt as is I have it
1112
00:26:52,140 –> 00:26:52,150
seen anything so corrupt as is I have it
1113
00:26:52,150 –> 00:26:55,740
seen anything so corrupt as is I have it
firstly I’m at 53 and you know I was not
1114
00:26:55,740 –> 00:26:55,750
firstly I’m at 53 and you know I was not
1115
00:26:55,750 –> 00:26:57,480
firstly I’m at 53 and you know I was not
your own child in Watergate if this
1116
00:26:57,480 –> 00:26:57,490
your own child in Watergate if this
1117
00:26:57,490 –> 00:26:59,220
your own child in Watergate if this
country and I remember sitting in my dad
1118
00:26:59,220 –> 00:26:59,230
country and I remember sitting in my dad
1119
00:26:59,230 –> 00:27:01,080
country and I remember sitting in my dad
study that night when Richard Nixon came
1120
00:27:01,080 –> 00:27:01,090
study that night when Richard Nixon came
1121
00:27:01,090 –> 00:27:03,600
study that night when Richard Nixon came
on television and resigned you know
1122
00:27:03,600 –> 00:27:03,610
on television and resigned you know
1123
00:27:03,610 –> 00:27:05,730
on television and resigned you know
before the nation and I still have that
1124
00:27:05,730 –> 00:27:05,740
before the nation and I still have that
1125
00:27:05,740 –> 00:27:08,010
before the nation and I still have that
memory of my mind as a child I’ve never
1126
00:27:08,010 –> 00:27:08,020
memory of my mind as a child I’ve never
1127
00:27:08,020 –> 00:27:09,540
memory of my mind as a child I’ve never
seen anything this corrupt is what’s
1128
00:27:09,540 –> 00:27:09,550
seen anything this corrupt is what’s
1129
00:27:09,550 –> 00:27:11,520
seen anything this corrupt is what’s
going on in DC with this investigation
1130
00:27:11,520 –> 00:27:11,530
going on in DC with this investigation
1131
00:27:11,530 –> 00:27:13,350
going on in DC with this investigation
and all these tributaries that are
1132
00:27:13,350 –> 00:27:13,360
and all these tributaries that are
1133
00:27:13,360 –> 00:27:15,480
and all these tributaries that are
leading to all this corruption and
1134
00:27:15,480 –> 00:27:15,490
leading to all this corruption and
1135
00:27:15,490 –> 00:27:17,190
leading to all this corruption and
everything that’s been going on since
1136
00:27:17,190 –> 00:27:17,200
everything that’s been going on since
1137
00:27:17,200 –> 00:27:19,710
everything that’s been going on since
the election year but have you
1138
00:27:19,710 –> 00:27:19,720
the election year but have you
1139
00:27:19,720 –> 00:27:21,480
the election year but have you
you see anything any more corrupt than
1140
00:27:21,480 –> 00:27:21,490
you see anything any more corrupt than
1141
00:27:21,490 –> 00:27:24,630
you see anything any more corrupt than
this I I would tend to agree with you
1142
00:27:24,630 –> 00:27:24,640
this I I would tend to agree with you
1143
00:27:24,640 –> 00:27:25,770
this I I would tend to agree with you
that this is probably one of the more
1144
00:27:25,770 –> 00:27:25,780
that this is probably one of the more
1145
00:27:25,780 –> 00:27:27,360
that this is probably one of the more
corrupt periods in the United States
1146
00:27:27,360 –> 00:27:27,370
corrupt periods in the United States
1147
00:27:27,370 –> 00:27:30,180
corrupt periods in the United States
history and and I would you know and
1148
00:27:30,180 –> 00:27:30,190
history and and I would you know and
1149
00:27:30,190 –> 00:27:32,850
history and and I would you know and
I’ve observed you being overseas for as
1150
00:27:32,850 –> 00:27:32,860
I’ve observed you being overseas for as
1151
00:27:32,860 –> 00:27:35,010
I’ve observed you being overseas for as
I said much mind much my adult life
1152
00:27:35,010 –> 00:27:35,020
I said much mind much my adult life
1153
00:27:35,020 –> 00:27:37,200
I said much mind much my adult life
we had a congressional delegations come
1154
00:27:37,200 –> 00:27:37,210
we had a congressional delegations come
1155
00:27:37,210 –> 00:27:39,570
we had a congressional delegations come
out all the time and of course we can’t
1156
00:27:39,570 –> 00:27:39,580
out all the time and of course we can’t
1157
00:27:39,580 –> 00:27:41,100
out all the time and of course we can’t
report on them because they’re US
1158
00:27:41,100 –> 00:27:41,110
report on them because they’re US
1159
00:27:41,110 –> 00:27:42,240
report on them because they’re US
citizens and high-level political
1160
00:27:42,240 –> 00:27:42,250
citizens and high-level political
1161
00:27:42,250 –> 00:27:44,370
citizens and high-level political
figures too strong but we got to see a
1162
00:27:44,370 –> 00:27:44,380
figures too strong but we got to see a
1163
00:27:44,380 –> 00:27:46,049
figures too strong but we got to see a
lot of what they did now they thinkin so
1164
00:27:46,049 –> 00:27:46,059
lot of what they did now they thinkin so
1165
00:27:46,059 –> 00:27:50,159
lot of what they did now they thinkin so
on and I I would I do I think it’s a
1166
00:27:50,159 –> 00:27:50,169
on and I I would I do I think it’s a
1167
00:27:50,169 –> 00:27:52,080
on and I I would I do I think it’s a
culture of corruption out among the
1168
00:27:52,080 –> 00:27:52,090
culture of corruption out among the
1169
00:27:52,090 –> 00:27:56,640
culture of corruption out among the
political elites and you know it’s it’s
1170
00:27:56,640 –> 00:27:56,650
political elites and you know it’s it’s
1171
00:27:56,650 –> 00:27:59,549
political elites and you know it’s it’s
it’s gotten so that or we have an
1172
00:27:59,549 –> 00:27:59,559
it’s gotten so that or we have an
1173
00:27:59,559 –> 00:28:01,049
it’s gotten so that or we have an
inherent problem with our political
1174
00:28:01,049 –> 00:28:01,059
inherent problem with our political
1175
00:28:01,059 –> 00:28:04,230
inherent problem with our political
system now and then for any political
1176
00:28:04,230 –> 00:28:04,240
system now and then for any political
1177
00:28:04,240 –> 00:28:06,090
system now and then for any political
figure like let’s just say Congress
1178
00:28:06,090 –> 00:28:06,100
figure like let’s just say Congress
1179
00:28:06,100 –> 00:28:07,860
figure like let’s just say Congress
because Congress is big sent in too
1180
00:28:07,860 –> 00:28:07,870
because Congress is big sent in too
1181
00:28:07,870 –> 00:28:09,810
because Congress is big sent in too
small but let’s take a congressman and
1182
00:28:09,810 –> 00:28:09,820
small but let’s take a congressman and
1183
00:28:09,820 –> 00:28:11,549
small but let’s take a congressman and
there’s there are congressmen there that
1184
00:28:11,549 –> 00:28:11,559
there’s there are congressmen there that
1185
00:28:11,559 –> 00:28:15,210
there’s there are congressmen there that
want to do the right thing but and they
1186
00:28:15,210 –> 00:28:15,220
want to do the right thing but and they
1187
00:28:15,220 –> 00:28:19,110
want to do the right thing but and they
have deep held core beliefs but what
1188
00:28:19,110 –> 00:28:19,120
have deep held core beliefs but what
1189
00:28:19,120 –> 00:28:21,029
have deep held core beliefs but what
what how does it play out for a guy like
1190
00:28:21,029 –> 00:28:21,039
what how does it play out for a guy like
1191
00:28:21,039 –> 00:28:22,620
what how does it play out for a guy like
that by doing the right thing all the
1192
00:28:22,620 –> 00:28:22,630
that by doing the right thing all the
1193
00:28:22,630 –> 00:28:24,960
that by doing the right thing all the
time you’re gonna get in trouble it’s
1194
00:28:24,960 –> 00:28:24,970
time you’re gonna get in trouble it’s
1195
00:28:24,970 –> 00:28:26,250
time you’re gonna get in trouble it’s
just you’re gonna get politically
1196
00:28:26,250 –> 00:28:26,260
just you’re gonna get politically
1197
00:28:26,260 –> 00:28:27,630
just you’re gonna get politically
criticized you’re gonna have problems
1198
00:28:27,630 –> 00:28:27,640
criticized you’re gonna have problems
1199
00:28:27,640 –> 00:28:29,700
criticized you’re gonna have problems
and at some point you’ll you’ll have
1200
00:28:29,700 –> 00:28:29,710
and at some point you’ll you’ll have
1201
00:28:29,710 –> 00:28:31,260
and at some point you’ll you’ll have
enough of these things tipped against
1202
00:28:31,260 –> 00:28:31,270
enough of these things tipped against
1203
00:28:31,270 –> 00:28:32,789
enough of these things tipped against
you that you’re not gonna be elected
1204
00:28:32,789 –> 00:28:32,799
you that you’re not gonna be elected
1205
00:28:32,799 –> 00:28:35,580
you that you’re not gonna be elected
again so what you have is there’s no
1206
00:28:35,580 –> 00:28:35,590
again so what you have is there’s no
1207
00:28:35,590 –> 00:28:36,990
again so what you have is there’s no
percentage and just doing the right
1208
00:28:36,990 –> 00:28:37,000
percentage and just doing the right
1209
00:28:37,000 –> 00:28:38,970
percentage and just doing the right
thing what so what you have is all of
1210
00:28:38,970 –> 00:28:38,980
thing what so what you have is all of
1211
00:28:38,980 –> 00:28:41,549
thing what so what you have is all of
them both Democrats and Republicans I
1212
00:28:41,549 –> 00:28:41,559
them both Democrats and Republicans I
1213
00:28:41,559 –> 00:28:43,409
them both Democrats and Republicans I
mean the Democrats are much worse but
1214
00:28:43,409 –> 00:28:43,419
mean the Democrats are much worse but
1215
00:28:43,419 –> 00:28:45,419
mean the Democrats are much worse but
publicans are doing the same thing and
1216
00:28:45,419 –> 00:28:45,429
publicans are doing the same thing and
1217
00:28:45,429 –> 00:28:47,789
publicans are doing the same thing and
what do they do they do they take care
1218
00:28:47,789 –> 00:28:47,799
what do they do they do they take care
1219
00:28:47,799 –> 00:28:49,770
what do they do they do they take care
of number one first they do what’s good
1220
00:28:49,770 –> 00:28:49,780
of number one first they do what’s good
1221
00:28:49,780 –> 00:28:52,110
of number one first they do what’s good
for them and what’s good for the in
1222
00:28:52,110 –> 00:28:52,120
for them and what’s good for the in
1223
00:28:52,120 –> 00:28:54,060
for them and what’s good for the in
almost certainly is not what’s good for
1224
00:28:54,060 –> 00:28:54,070
almost certainly is not what’s good for
1225
00:28:54,070 –> 00:28:55,919
almost certainly is not what’s good for
the United States and that’s how you see
1226
00:28:55,919 –> 00:28:55,929
the United States and that’s how you see
1227
00:28:55,929 –> 00:28:57,390
the United States and that’s how you see
all this playing out so they’re on the
1228
00:28:57,390 –> 00:28:57,400
all this playing out so they’re on the
1229
00:28:57,400 –> 00:29:00,000
all this playing out so they’re on the
gravy train and and they want to stay on
1230
00:29:00,000 –> 00:29:00,010
gravy train and and they want to stay on
1231
00:29:00,010 –> 00:29:02,159
gravy train and and they want to stay on
the gravy train and and let me just say
1232
00:29:02,159 –> 00:29:02,169
the gravy train and and let me just say
1233
00:29:02,169 –> 00:29:03,480
the gravy train and and let me just say
it many of your listeners probably don’t
1234
00:29:03,480 –> 00:29:03,490
it many of your listeners probably don’t
1235
00:29:03,490 –> 00:29:05,940
it many of your listeners probably don’t
realize that for example you know
1236
00:29:05,940 –> 00:29:05,950
realize that for example you know
1237
00:29:05,950 –> 00:29:07,080
realize that for example you know
congressman when they want to raise
1238
00:29:07,080 –> 00:29:07,090
congressman when they want to raise
1239
00:29:07,090 –> 00:29:09,149
congressman when they want to raise
their vote themselves to raise now they
1240
00:29:09,149 –> 00:29:09,159
their vote themselves to raise now they
1241
00:29:09,159 –> 00:29:10,620
their vote themselves to raise now they
had problems a few years back because
1242
00:29:10,620 –> 00:29:10,630
had problems a few years back because
1243
00:29:10,630 –> 00:29:12,210
had problems a few years back because
there was outrageous how much they were
1244
00:29:12,210 –> 00:29:12,220
there was outrageous how much they were
1245
00:29:12,220 –> 00:29:14,010
there was outrageous how much they were
already being paid when they tried to
1246
00:29:14,010 –> 00:29:14,020
already being paid when they tried to
1247
00:29:14,020 –> 00:29:15,450
already being paid when they tried to
vote themselves another race so what did
1248
00:29:15,450 –> 00:29:15,460
vote themselves another race so what did
1249
00:29:15,460 –> 00:29:17,190
vote themselves another race so what did
they do they didn’t give themselves a
1250
00:29:17,190 –> 00:29:17,200
they do they didn’t give themselves a
1251
00:29:17,200 –> 00:29:19,169
they do they didn’t give themselves a
raise they voted themselves in a freebie
1252
00:29:19,169 –> 00:29:19,179
raise they voted themselves in a freebie
1253
00:29:19,179 –> 00:29:20,789
raise they voted themselves in a freebie
fifty thousand dollar deduction on their
1254
00:29:20,789 –> 00:29:20,799
fifty thousand dollar deduction on their
1255
00:29:20,799 –> 00:29:23,610
fifty thousand dollar deduction on their
taps for dessert act and did you know
1256
00:29:23,610 –> 00:29:23,620
taps for dessert act and did you know
1257
00:29:23,620 –> 00:29:25,799
taps for dessert act and did you know
congressman after two terms as a
1258
00:29:25,799 –> 00:29:25,809
congressman after two terms as a
1259
00:29:25,809 –> 00:29:27,899
congressman after two terms as a
congressman that’s four years they are
1260
00:29:27,899 –> 00:29:27,909
congressman that’s four years they are
1261
00:29:27,909 –> 00:29:30,870
congressman that’s four years they are
entitled to exactly the same retirement
1262
00:29:30,870 –> 00:29:30,880
entitled to exactly the same retirement
1263
00:29:30,880 –> 00:29:32,499
entitled to exactly the same retirement
at higher level than
1264
00:29:32,499 –> 00:29:32,509
at higher level than
1265
00:29:32,509 –> 00:29:35,379
at higher level than
I have after 25 years they get it in
1266
00:29:35,379 –> 00:29:35,389
I have after 25 years they get it in
1267
00:29:35,389 –> 00:29:38,649
I have after 25 years they get it in
four years well yeah so you’ve just
1268
00:29:38,649 –> 00:29:38,659
four years well yeah so you’ve just
1269
00:29:38,659 –> 00:29:40,599
four years well yeah so you’ve just
you’ve seen them just go not since
1270
00:29:40,599 –> 00:29:40,609
you’ve seen them just go not since
1271
00:29:40,609 –> 00:29:42,579
you’ve seen them just go not since
button and lineup all the stuff in their
1272
00:29:42,579 –> 00:29:42,589
button and lineup all the stuff in their
1273
00:29:42,589 –> 00:29:44,739
button and lineup all the stuff in their
own favor to do what’s good for them and
1274
00:29:44,739 –> 00:29:44,749
own favor to do what’s good for them and
1275
00:29:44,749 –> 00:29:47,889
own favor to do what’s good for them and
and they’re in permanent election status
1276
00:29:47,889 –> 00:29:47,899
and they’re in permanent election status
1277
00:29:47,899 –> 00:29:50,259
and they’re in permanent election status
so whoever every two years you’ve got to
1278
00:29:50,259 –> 00:29:50,269
so whoever every two years you’ve got to
1279
00:29:50,269 –> 00:29:52,389
so whoever every two years you’ve got to
go through elections so all that during
1280
00:29:52,389 –> 00:29:52,399
go through elections so all that during
1281
00:29:52,399 –> 00:29:53,799
go through elections so all that during
those two years while they’re in office
1282
00:29:53,799 –> 00:29:53,809
those two years while they’re in office
1283
00:29:53,809 –> 00:29:55,180
those two years while they’re in office
they’re collecting money for the next
1284
00:29:55,180 –> 00:29:55,190
they’re collecting money for the next
1285
00:29:55,190 –> 00:29:56,109
they’re collecting money for the next
campaign
1286
00:29:56,109 –> 00:29:56,119
campaign
1287
00:29:56,119 –> 00:29:58,509
campaign
so whoever gives them money they have to
1288
00:29:58,509 –> 00:29:58,519
so whoever gives them money they have to
1289
00:29:58,519 –> 00:30:00,849
so whoever gives them money they have to
listen to and if they start pissing all
1290
00:30:00,849 –> 00:30:00,859
listen to and if they start pissing all
1291
00:30:00,859 –> 00:30:02,409
listen to and if they start pissing all
those people off their to their donors
1292
00:30:02,409 –> 00:30:02,419
those people off their to their donors
1293
00:30:02,419 –> 00:30:04,749
those people off their to their donors
and that donor class is relatively small
1294
00:30:04,749 –> 00:30:04,759
and that donor class is relatively small
1295
00:30:04,759 –> 00:30:08,109
and that donor class is relatively small
so if they piss off all those people
1296
00:30:08,109 –> 00:30:08,119
so if they piss off all those people
1297
00:30:08,119 –> 00:30:09,639
so if they piss off all those people
they’re just not they’re not gonna have
1298
00:30:09,639 –> 00:30:09,649
they’re just not they’re not gonna have
1299
00:30:09,649 –> 00:30:11,619
they’re just not they’re not gonna have
money to run for reelection so there’s
1300
00:30:11,619 –> 00:30:11,629
money to run for reelection so there’s
1301
00:30:11,629 –> 00:30:15,579
money to run for reelection so there’s
that inherent core problem with our with
1302
00:30:15,579 –> 00:30:15,589
that inherent core problem with our with
1303
00:30:15,589 –> 00:30:17,499
that inherent core problem with our with
our election system for certainly a
1304
00:30:17,499 –> 00:30:17,509
our election system for certainly a
1305
00:30:17,509 –> 00:30:20,169
our election system for certainly a
congressman and a kind of a different
1306
00:30:20,169 –> 00:30:20,179
congressman and a kind of a different
1307
00:30:20,179 –> 00:30:23,289
congressman and a kind of a different
game but similar parallel problem with
1308
00:30:23,289 –> 00:30:23,299
game but similar parallel problem with
1309
00:30:23,299 –> 00:30:27,279
game but similar parallel problem with
the Senate and it’s it’s I’m not sure
1310
00:30:27,279 –> 00:30:27,289
the Senate and it’s it’s I’m not sure
1311
00:30:27,289 –> 00:30:29,619
the Senate and it’s it’s I’m not sure
what the solution is I’ve thought about
1312
00:30:29,619 –> 00:30:29,629
what the solution is I’ve thought about
1313
00:30:29,629 –> 00:30:31,539
what the solution is I’ve thought about
it a bit and hopefully will somebody
1314
00:30:31,539 –> 00:30:31,549
it a bit and hopefully will somebody
1315
00:30:31,549 –> 00:30:33,279
it a bit and hopefully will somebody
will come up with a bright solution at
1316
00:30:33,279 –> 00:30:33,289
will come up with a bright solution at
1317
00:30:33,289 –> 00:30:34,509
will come up with a bright solution at
some point a lot of people are talking
1318
00:30:34,509 –> 00:30:34,519
some point a lot of people are talking
1319
00:30:34,519 –> 00:30:36,729
some point a lot of people are talking
about tournaments as being part of the
1320
00:30:36,729 –> 00:30:36,739
about tournaments as being part of the
1321
00:30:36,739 –> 00:30:38,919
about tournaments as being part of the
solution which I think that will help I
1322
00:30:38,919 –> 00:30:38,929
solution which I think that will help I
1323
00:30:38,929 –> 00:30:40,569
solution which I think that will help I
don’t know if it’ll get through but I
1324
00:30:40,569 –> 00:30:40,579
don’t know if it’ll get through but I
1325
00:30:40,579 –> 00:30:42,129
don’t know if it’ll get through but I
think it would help it’s a step in the
1326
00:30:42,129 –> 00:30:42,139
think it would help it’s a step in the
1327
00:30:42,139 –> 00:30:43,779
think it would help it’s a step in the
right direction but yeah there’s an
1328
00:30:43,779 –> 00:30:43,789
right direction but yeah there’s an
1329
00:30:43,789 –> 00:30:45,099
right direction but yeah there’s an
inherent problem with the election
1330
00:30:45,099 –> 00:30:45,109
inherent problem with the election
1331
00:30:45,109 –> 00:30:48,639
inherent problem with the election
system okay and we’re electing and you
1332
00:30:48,639 –> 00:30:48,649
system okay and we’re electing and you
1333
00:30:48,649 –> 00:30:52,289
system okay and we’re electing and you
know I’m not sure what the fix is right
1334
00:30:52,289 –> 00:30:52,299
know I’m not sure what the fix is right
1335
00:30:52,299 –> 00:30:55,180
know I’m not sure what the fix is right
and Brad you know the founding fathers
1336
00:30:55,180 –> 00:30:55,190
and Brad you know the founding fathers
1337
00:30:55,190 –> 00:30:56,799
and Brad you know the founding fathers
when they could I think when they
1338
00:30:56,799 –> 00:30:56,809
when they could I think when they
1339
00:30:56,809 –> 00:30:58,389
when they could I think when they
establish the system of government to
1340
00:30:58,389 –> 00:30:58,399
establish the system of government to
1341
00:30:58,399 –> 00:31:00,069
establish the system of government to
have the executive legislative and
1342
00:31:00,069 –> 00:31:00,079
have the executive legislative and
1343
00:31:00,079 –> 00:31:02,229
have the executive legislative and
judicial branches check each other I
1344
00:31:02,229 –> 00:31:02,239
judicial branches check each other I
1345
00:31:02,239 –> 00:31:04,119
judicial branches check each other I
don’t think they look into the future
1346
00:31:04,119 –> 00:31:04,129
don’t think they look into the future
1347
00:31:04,129 –> 00:31:06,609
don’t think they look into the future
and expected these demagogues to be in
1348
00:31:06,609 –> 00:31:06,619
and expected these demagogues to be in
1349
00:31:06,619 –> 00:31:08,769
and expected these demagogues to be in
office for 30 to 40 years because that
1350
00:31:08,769 –> 00:31:08,779
office for 30 to 40 years because that
1351
00:31:08,779 –> 00:31:10,299
office for 30 to 40 years because that
check and balance system gets thrown out
1352
00:31:10,299 –> 00:31:10,309
check and balance system gets thrown out
1353
00:31:10,309 –> 00:31:12,309
check and balance system gets thrown out
the door if the same people or do with
1354
00:31:12,309 –> 00:31:12,319
the door if the same people or do with
1355
00:31:12,319 –> 00:31:13,569
the door if the same people or do with
the check and balance and all the time
1356
00:31:13,569 –> 00:31:13,579
the check and balance and all the time
1357
00:31:13,579 –> 00:31:15,759
the check and balance and all the time
and you know the president’s got a
1358
00:31:15,759 –> 00:31:15,769
and you know the president’s got a
1359
00:31:15,769 –> 00:31:17,769
and you know the president’s got a
two-year term on him and it would make
1360
00:31:17,769 –> 00:31:17,779
two-year term on him and it would make
1361
00:31:17,779 –> 00:31:18,369
two-year term on him and it would make
sense to me
1362
00:31:18,369 –> 00:31:18,379
sense to me
1363
00:31:18,379 –> 00:31:20,409
sense to me
that the judicial you know I’ve never
1364
00:31:20,409 –> 00:31:20,419
that the judicial you know I’ve never
1365
00:31:20,419 –> 00:31:21,879
that the judicial you know I’ve never
been a big fan of these Supreme Court
1366
00:31:21,879 –> 00:31:21,889
been a big fan of these Supreme Court
1367
00:31:21,889 –> 00:31:24,189
been a big fan of these Supreme Court
justices being on there for life that’s
1368
00:31:24,189 –> 00:31:24,199
justices being on there for life that’s
1369
00:31:24,199 –> 00:31:25,869
justices being on there for life that’s
just me I mean I believe that they need
1370
00:31:25,869 –> 00:31:25,879
just me I mean I believe that they need
1371
00:31:25,879 –> 00:31:28,479
just me I mean I believe that they need
to have a pretty long tenure but to just
1372
00:31:28,479 –> 00:31:28,489
to have a pretty long tenure but to just
1373
00:31:28,489 –> 00:31:29,859
to have a pretty long tenure but to just
stick some item a bench and say you’re
1374
00:31:29,859 –> 00:31:29,869
stick some item a bench and say you’re
1375
00:31:29,869 –> 00:31:32,139
stick some item a bench and say you’re
there to get out I mean that sets policy
1376
00:31:32,139 –> 00:31:32,149
there to get out I mean that sets policy
1377
00:31:32,149 –> 00:31:34,509
there to get out I mean that sets policy
in place for 4050 years and the country
1378
00:31:34,509 –> 00:31:34,519
in place for 4050 years and the country
1379
00:31:34,519 –> 00:31:36,879
in place for 4050 years and the country
changes over that time and things change
1380
00:31:36,879 –> 00:31:36,889
changes over that time and things change
1381
00:31:36,889 –> 00:31:39,129
changes over that time and things change
same thing with congressmen but we could
1382
00:31:39,129 –> 00:31:39,139
same thing with congressmen but we could
1383
00:31:39,139 –> 00:31:41,349
same thing with congressmen but we could
talk about term limits up I’m with you I
1384
00:31:41,349 –> 00:31:41,359
talk about term limits up I’m with you I
1385
00:31:41,359 –> 00:31:42,879
talk about term limits up I’m with you I
don’t know if that’s gonna fix it it
1386
00:31:42,879 –> 00:31:42,889
don’t know if that’s gonna fix it it
1387
00:31:42,889 –> 00:31:45,519
don’t know if that’s gonna fix it it
probably a start I did not know that
1388
00:31:45,519 –> 00:31:45,529
probably a start I did not know that
1389
00:31:45,529 –> 00:31:46,400
probably a start I did not know that
about the
1390
00:31:46,400 –> 00:31:46,410
about the
1391
00:31:46,410 –> 00:31:50,540
about the
though and it just goes to I guess when
1392
00:31:50,540 –> 00:31:50,550
though and it just goes to I guess when
1393
00:31:50,550 –> 00:31:53,330
though and it just goes to I guess when
President Trump calls as a swamp that
1394
00:31:53,330 –> 00:31:53,340
President Trump calls as a swamp that
1395
00:31:53,340 –> 00:31:57,230
President Trump calls as a swamp that
swampy to me would be I would make one
1396
00:31:57,230 –> 00:31:57,240
swampy to me would be I would make one
1397
00:31:57,240 –> 00:31:59,420
swampy to me would be I would make one
comment on the Supreme Court since you
1398
00:31:59,420 –> 00:31:59,430
comment on the Supreme Court since you
1399
00:31:59,430 –> 00:32:01,850
comment on the Supreme Court since you
did since you mentioned it and again
1400
00:32:01,850 –> 00:32:01,860
did since you mentioned it and again
1401
00:32:01,860 –> 00:32:03,380
did since you mentioned it and again
it’s one of those things where you for
1402
00:32:03,380 –> 00:32:03,390
it’s one of those things where you for
1403
00:32:03,390 –> 00:32:05,600
it’s one of those things where you for
you they’ve become the Washington elite
1404
00:32:05,600 –> 00:32:05,610
you they’ve become the Washington elite
1405
00:32:05,610 –> 00:32:09,590
you they’ve become the Washington elite
yes and even if they stand for life
1406
00:32:09,590 –> 00:32:09,600
yes and even if they stand for life
1407
00:32:09,600 –> 00:32:12,650
yes and even if they stand for life
which in the long run it has been
1408
00:32:12,650 –> 00:32:12,660
which in the long run it has been
1409
00:32:12,660 –> 00:32:15,200
which in the long run it has been
probably a positive now maybe not so
1410
00:32:15,200 –> 00:32:15,210
probably a positive now maybe not so
1411
00:32:15,210 –> 00:32:18,350
probably a positive now maybe not so
much but I think the inherent problem
1412
00:32:18,350 –> 00:32:18,360
much but I think the inherent problem
1413
00:32:18,360 –> 00:32:20,960
much but I think the inherent problem
with the Supreme Court is that they’ve
1414
00:32:20,960 –> 00:32:20,970
with the Supreme Court is that they’ve
1415
00:32:20,970 –> 00:32:23,960
with the Supreme Court is that they’ve
they’ve you’ve now got ideologues on the
1416
00:32:23,960 –> 00:32:23,970
they’ve you’ve now got ideologues on the
1417
00:32:23,970 –> 00:32:25,730
they’ve you’ve now got ideologues on the
left that have come to the Supreme Court
1418
00:32:25,730 –> 00:32:25,740
left that have come to the Supreme Court
1419
00:32:25,740 –> 00:32:29,090
left that have come to the Supreme Court
and on the right you see them respect
1420
00:32:29,090 –> 00:32:29,100
and on the right you see them respect
1421
00:32:29,100 –> 00:32:31,130
and on the right you see them respect
and they they take seriously their oath
1422
00:32:31,130 –> 00:32:31,140
and they they take seriously their oath
1423
00:32:31,140 –> 00:32:33,620
and they they take seriously their oath
to uphold the Constitution it’s on the
1424
00:32:33,620 –> 00:32:33,630
to uphold the Constitution it’s on the
1425
00:32:33,630 –> 00:32:36,980
to uphold the Constitution it’s on the
Left they do not write n so you know
1426
00:32:36,980 –> 00:32:36,990
Left they do not write n so you know
1427
00:32:36,990 –> 00:32:38,510
Left they do not write n so you know
what what needs to happen is those
1428
00:32:38,510 –> 00:32:38,520
what what needs to happen is those
1429
00:32:38,520 –> 00:32:40,490
what what needs to happen is those
people need to be impeached and you’ve
1430
00:32:40,490 –> 00:32:40,500
people need to be impeached and you’ve
1431
00:32:40,500 –> 00:32:42,980
people need to be impeached and you’ve
even seen on the left they pull from
1432
00:32:42,980 –> 00:32:42,990
even seen on the left they pull from
1433
00:32:42,990 –> 00:32:44,840
even seen on the left they pull from
international law which isn’t even
1434
00:32:44,840 –> 00:32:44,850
international law which isn’t even
1435
00:32:44,850 –> 00:32:47,390
international law which isn’t even
written law that’s that’s just case law
1436
00:32:47,390 –> 00:32:47,400
written law that’s that’s just case law
1437
00:32:47,400 –> 00:32:49,040
written law that’s that’s just case law
that’s cases that have taken place
1438
00:32:49,040 –> 00:32:49,050
that’s cases that have taken place
1439
00:32:49,050 –> 00:32:50,810
that’s cases that have taken place
they draw from international law case
1440
00:32:50,810 –> 00:32:50,820
they draw from international law case
1441
00:32:50,820 –> 00:32:53,900
they draw from international law case
law and you’ve seen them draw from one
1442
00:32:53,900 –> 00:32:53,910
law and you’ve seen them draw from one
1443
00:32:53,910 –> 00:32:56,230
law and you’ve seen them draw from one
of the sitting judge justices now was
1444
00:32:56,230 –> 00:32:56,240
of the sitting judge justices now was
1445
00:32:56,240 –> 00:33:00,050
of the sitting judge justices now was
pulling from French law well you know
1446
00:33:00,050 –> 00:33:00,060
pulling from French law well you know
1447
00:33:00,060 –> 00:33:02,540
pulling from French law well you know
that’s because the US law was not
1448
00:33:02,540 –> 00:33:02,550
that’s because the US law was not
1449
00:33:02,550 –> 00:33:05,600
that’s because the US law was not
written in a way that she liked you know
1450
00:33:05,600 –> 00:33:05,610
written in a way that she liked you know
1451
00:33:05,610 –> 00:33:07,760
written in a way that she liked you know
they’re there they were there were meant
1452
00:33:07,760 –> 00:33:07,770
they’re there they were there were meant
1453
00:33:07,770 –> 00:33:09,080
they’re there they were there were meant
to be a check and balance on the
1454
00:33:09,080 –> 00:33:09,090
to be a check and balance on the
1455
00:33:09,090 –> 00:33:11,510
to be a check and balance on the
legislative and now what they’re doing
1456
00:33:11,510 –> 00:33:11,520
legislative and now what they’re doing
1457
00:33:11,520 –> 00:33:14,690
legislative and now what they’re doing
is legislating their own laws exactly
1458
00:33:14,690 –> 00:33:14,700
is legislating their own laws exactly
1459
00:33:14,700 –> 00:33:17,510
is legislating their own laws exactly
whatever they want and and that is the
1460
00:33:17,510 –> 00:33:17,520
whatever they want and and that is the
1461
00:33:17,520 –> 00:33:20,480
whatever they want and and that is the
is the great evil the great sin that
1462
00:33:20,480 –> 00:33:20,490
is the great evil the great sin that
1463
00:33:20,490 –> 00:33:23,720
is the great evil the great sin that
exists in the Supreme Court now the only
1464
00:33:23,720 –> 00:33:23,730
exists in the Supreme Court now the only
1465
00:33:23,730 –> 00:33:25,370
exists in the Supreme Court now the only
way to eliminate that is to teach the
1466
00:33:25,370 –> 00:33:25,380
way to eliminate that is to teach the
1467
00:33:25,380 –> 00:33:25,880
way to eliminate that is to teach the
Milazzo
1468
00:33:25,880 –> 00:33:25,890
Milazzo
1469
00:33:25,890 –> 00:33:27,440
Milazzo
and the only way to teach them a lesson
1470
00:33:27,440 –> 00:33:27,450
and the only way to teach them a lesson
1471
00:33:27,450 –> 00:33:29,270
and the only way to teach them a lesson
is to teach those people that do those
1472
00:33:29,270 –> 00:33:29,280
is to teach those people that do those
1473
00:33:29,280 –> 00:33:31,010
is to teach those people that do those
things now there’s no political will to
1474
00:33:31,010 –> 00:33:31,020
things now there’s no political will to
1475
00:33:31,020 –> 00:33:34,310
things now there’s no political will to
do it it’s not going to happen I don’t
1476
00:33:34,310 –> 00:33:34,320
do it it’s not going to happen I don’t
1477
00:33:34,320 –> 00:33:36,200
do it it’s not going to happen I don’t
think anybody would even champion it but
1478
00:33:36,200 –> 00:33:36,210
think anybody would even champion it but
1479
00:33:36,210 –> 00:33:37,910
think anybody would even champion it but
that’s the cure it’s just not a
1480
00:33:37,910 –> 00:33:37,920
that’s the cure it’s just not a
1481
00:33:37,920 –> 00:33:41,120
that’s the cure it’s just not a
reachable result but it would be nice to
1482
00:33:41,120 –> 00:33:41,130
reachable result but it would be nice to
1483
00:33:41,130 –> 00:33:43,490
reachable result but it would be nice to
hope in a perfect world that the
1484
00:33:43,490 –> 00:33:43,500
hope in a perfect world that the
1485
00:33:43,500 –> 00:33:46,280
hope in a perfect world that the
legislature would stand up for itself
1486
00:33:46,280 –> 00:33:46,290
legislature would stand up for itself
1487
00:33:46,290 –> 00:33:49,280
legislature would stand up for itself
and protect the legislation that they’ve
1488
00:33:49,280 –> 00:33:49,290
and protect the legislation that they’ve
1489
00:33:49,290 –> 00:33:51,650
and protect the legislation that they’ve
created and their predecessors created
1490
00:33:51,650 –> 00:33:51,660
created and their predecessors created
1491
00:33:51,660 –> 00:33:53,750
created and their predecessors created
and not allow the supreme court to get
1492
00:33:53,750 –> 00:33:53,760
and not allow the supreme court to get
1493
00:33:53,760 –> 00:33:56,480
and not allow the supreme court to get
away with it but you know they they just
1494
00:33:56,480 –> 00:33:56,490
away with it but you know they they just
1495
00:33:56,490 –> 00:33:58,370
away with it but you know they they just
they’re gonna have to grow a bigger pair
1496
00:33:58,370 –> 00:33:58,380
they’re gonna have to grow a bigger pair
1497
00:33:58,380 –> 00:33:59,030
they’re gonna have to grow a bigger pair
to be able to
1498
00:33:59,030 –> 00:33:59,040
to be able to
1499
00:33:59,040 –> 00:34:01,130
to be able to
move everything that far down down the
1500
00:34:01,130 –> 00:34:01,140
move everything that far down down the
1501
00:34:01,140 –> 00:34:03,710
move everything that far down down the
road I know it’s all about the political
1502
00:34:03,710 –> 00:34:03,720
road I know it’s all about the political
1503
00:34:03,720 –> 00:34:05,330
road I know it’s all about the political
will and again that’s that’s what it
1504
00:34:05,330 –> 00:34:05,340
will and again that’s that’s what it
1505
00:34:05,340 –> 00:34:07,040
will and again that’s that’s what it
drives me crazy with Washington DC and I
1506
00:34:07,040 –> 00:34:07,050
drives me crazy with Washington DC and I
1507
00:34:07,050 –> 00:34:08,659
drives me crazy with Washington DC and I
think Brad that’s what drives most
1508
00:34:08,659 –> 00:34:08,669
think Brad that’s what drives most
1509
00:34:08,669 –> 00:34:10,550
think Brad that’s what drives most
people I hear in Middle America crazy
1510
00:34:10,550 –> 00:34:10,560
people I hear in Middle America crazy
1511
00:34:10,560 –> 00:34:12,890
people I hear in Middle America crazy
because we make it we look at DC and we
1512
00:34:12,890 –> 00:34:12,900
because we make it we look at DC and we
1513
00:34:12,900 –> 00:34:14,659
because we make it we look at DC and we
look at this through common sense lenses
1514
00:34:14,659 –> 00:34:14,669
look at this through common sense lenses
1515
00:34:14,669 –> 00:34:16,280
look at this through common sense lenses
and we just say you know they’re not
1516
00:34:16,280 –> 00:34:16,290
and we just say you know they’re not
1517
00:34:16,290 –> 00:34:17,390
and we just say you know they’re not
doing their job if they’re doing stuff
1518
00:34:17,390 –> 00:34:17,400
doing their job if they’re doing stuff
1519
00:34:17,400 –> 00:34:19,070
doing their job if they’re doing stuff
like you just mentioned get their
1520
00:34:19,070 –> 00:34:19,080
like you just mentioned get their
1521
00:34:19,080 –> 00:34:21,409
like you just mentioned get their
backsides out get their impeach their
1522
00:34:21,409 –> 00:34:21,419
backsides out get their impeach their
1523
00:34:21,419 –> 00:34:23,659
backsides out get their impeach their
backsides and get them out and be done
1524
00:34:23,659 –> 00:34:23,669
backsides and get them out and be done
1525
00:34:23,669 –> 00:34:26,390
backsides and get them out and be done
with it but when you get in the circle
1526
00:34:26,390 –> 00:34:26,400
with it but when you get in the circle
1527
00:34:26,400 –> 00:34:29,210
with it but when you get in the circle
that 295 Ford or I call it up there that
1528
00:34:29,210 –> 00:34:29,220
that 295 Ford or I call it up there that
1529
00:34:29,220 –> 00:34:30,650
that 295 Ford or I call it up there that
circles Washington you get in that
1530
00:34:30,650 –> 00:34:30,660
circles Washington you get in that
1531
00:34:30,660 –> 00:34:32,960
circles Washington you get in that
little area it’s a different world it’s
1532
00:34:32,960 –> 00:34:32,970
little area it’s a different world it’s
1533
00:34:32,970 –> 00:34:34,250
little area it’s a different world it’s
almost like there’s a different universe
1534
00:34:34,250 –> 00:34:34,260
almost like there’s a different universe
1535
00:34:34,260 –> 00:34:35,570
almost like there’s a different universe
there and it’s all about the political
1536
00:34:35,570 –> 00:34:35,580
there and it’s all about the political
1537
00:34:35,580 –> 00:34:37,430
there and it’s all about the political
will and the political if the political
1538
00:34:37,430 –> 00:34:37,440
will and the political if the political
1539
00:34:37,440 –> 00:34:38,510
will and the political if the political
will is not there to do it
1540
00:34:38,510 –> 00:34:38,520
will is not there to do it
1541
00:34:38,520 –> 00:34:40,010
will is not there to do it
it’s and the right thing rarely gets
1542
00:34:40,010 –> 00:34:40,020
it’s and the right thing rarely gets
1543
00:34:40,020 –> 00:34:42,650
it’s and the right thing rarely gets
done for America and that over time has
1544
00:34:42,650 –> 00:34:42,660
done for America and that over time has
1545
00:34:42,660 –> 00:34:43,880
done for America and that over time has
got to stop we’re not gonna have a
1546
00:34:43,880 –> 00:34:43,890
got to stop we’re not gonna have a
1547
00:34:43,890 –> 00:34:45,140
got to stop we’re not gonna have a
country I mean our country is going to
1548
00:34:45,140 –> 00:34:45,150
country I mean our country is going to
1549
00:34:45,150 –> 00:34:46,460
country I mean our country is going to
be gone and that’s that’s what’s
1550
00:34:46,460 –> 00:34:46,470
be gone and that’s that’s what’s
1551
00:34:46,470 –> 00:34:47,870
be gone and that’s that’s what’s
disturbing I think out here to most
1552
00:34:47,870 –> 00:34:47,880
disturbing I think out here to most
1553
00:34:47,880 –> 00:34:50,750
disturbing I think out here to most
people because you know these people are
1554
00:34:50,750 –> 00:34:50,760
people because you know these people are
1555
00:34:50,760 –> 00:34:52,430
people because you know these people are
the people we represent a total of
1556
00:34:52,430 –> 00:34:52,440
the people we represent a total of
1557
00:34:52,440 –> 00:34:54,890
the people we represent a total of
interviewer this morning a lady we were
1558
00:34:54,890 –> 00:34:54,900
interviewer this morning a lady we were
1559
00:34:54,900 –> 00:34:58,310
interviewer this morning a lady we were
interviewing there’s a reason that we
1560
00:34:58,310 –> 00:34:58,320
interviewing there’s a reason that we
1561
00:34:58,320 –> 00:35:00,350
interviewing there’s a reason that we
the people should never have to fear the
1562
00:35:00,350 –> 00:35:00,360
the people should never have to fear the
1563
00:35:00,360 –> 00:35:01,730
the people should never have to fear the
government the government needs to fear
1564
00:35:01,730 –> 00:35:01,740
government the government needs to fear
1565
00:35:01,740 –> 00:35:03,680
government the government needs to fear
we the people we’re the ones in charge
1566
00:35:03,680 –> 00:35:03,690
we the people we’re the ones in charge
1567
00:35:03,690 –> 00:35:05,570
we the people we’re the ones in charge
out here even though it seems like
1568
00:35:05,570 –> 00:35:05,580
out here even though it seems like
1569
00:35:05,580 –> 00:35:07,040
out here even though it seems like
they’re in charge but we’re supposed to
1570
00:35:07,040 –> 00:35:07,050
they’re in charge but we’re supposed to
1571
00:35:07,050 –> 00:35:09,560
they’re in charge but we’re supposed to
be in charge and that never happens in
1572
00:35:09,560 –> 00:35:09,570
be in charge and that never happens in
1573
00:35:09,570 –> 00:35:11,590
be in charge and that never happens in
this in this political environment
1574
00:35:11,590 –> 00:35:11,600
this in this political environment
1575
00:35:11,600 –> 00:35:14,840
this in this political environment
let me change segue a little bit to you
1576
00:35:14,840 –> 00:35:14,850
let me change segue a little bit to you
1577
00:35:14,850 –> 00:35:15,860
let me change segue a little bit to you
in a different world let me get you out
1578
00:35:15,860 –> 00:35:15,870
in a different world let me get you out
1579
00:35:15,870 –> 00:35:18,020
in a different world let me get you out
of DC because I could be talking on DC
1580
00:35:18,020 –> 00:35:18,030
of DC because I could be talking on DC
1581
00:35:18,030 –> 00:35:19,520
of DC because I could be talking on DC
all day but I want to get back into the
1582
00:35:19,520 –> 00:35:19,530
all day but I want to get back into the
1583
00:35:19,530 –> 00:35:21,920
all day but I want to get back into the
world issues because you’ve been such a
1584
00:35:21,920 –> 00:35:21,930
world issues because you’ve been such a
1585
00:35:21,930 –> 00:35:24,320
world issues because you’ve been such a
bottle part of to our country and I want
1586
00:35:24,320 –> 00:35:24,330
bottle part of to our country and I want
1587
00:35:24,330 –> 00:35:25,610
bottle part of to our country and I want
to say thank you publicly for your
1588
00:35:25,610 –> 00:35:25,620
to say thank you publicly for your
1589
00:35:25,620 –> 00:35:27,800
to say thank you publicly for your
service to our nation Brad I really do
1590
00:35:27,800 –> 00:35:27,810
service to our nation Brad I really do
1591
00:35:27,810 –> 00:35:29,450
service to our nation Brad I really do
it means it means a lot to me my
1592
00:35:29,450 –> 00:35:29,460
it means it means a lot to me my
1593
00:35:29,460 –> 00:35:32,330
it means it means a lot to me my
brother’s retired Air Force and but your
1594
00:35:32,330 –> 00:35:32,340
brother’s retired Air Force and but your
1595
00:35:32,340 –> 00:35:33,950
brother’s retired Air Force and but your
and your what you’re doing it was such a
1596
00:35:33,950 –> 00:35:33,960
and your what you’re doing it was such a
1597
00:35:33,960 –> 00:35:36,110
and your what you’re doing it was such a
different kind of role and we do
1598
00:35:36,110 –> 00:35:36,120
different kind of role and we do
1599
00:35:36,120 –> 00:35:38,150
different kind of role and we do
appreciate that if you’re looking out
1600
00:35:38,150 –> 00:35:38,160
appreciate that if you’re looking out
1601
00:35:38,160 –> 00:35:39,860
appreciate that if you’re looking out
over this landscape in North Korea right
1602
00:35:39,860 –> 00:35:39,870
over this landscape in North Korea right
1603
00:35:39,870 –> 00:35:43,640
over this landscape in North Korea right
now I guess they would have to be listed
1604
00:35:43,640 –> 00:35:43,650
now I guess they would have to be listed
1605
00:35:43,650 –> 00:35:45,440
now I guess they would have to be listed
as one of the top three dangerous
1606
00:35:45,440 –> 00:35:45,450
as one of the top three dangerous
1607
00:35:45,450 –> 00:35:47,720
as one of the top three dangerous
countries in America I want you to speak
1608
00:35:47,720 –> 00:35:47,730
countries in America I want you to speak
1609
00:35:47,730 –> 00:35:50,600
countries in America I want you to speak
a little bit about some of the top areas
1610
00:35:50,600 –> 00:35:50,610
a little bit about some of the top areas
1611
00:35:50,610 –> 00:35:52,550
a little bit about some of the top areas
of the world that in your mind are the
1612
00:35:52,550 –> 00:35:52,560
of the world that in your mind are the
1613
00:35:52,560 –> 00:35:55,760
of the world that in your mind are the
most dangerous and basically provide the
1614
00:35:55,760 –> 00:35:55,770
most dangerous and basically provide the
1615
00:35:55,770 –> 00:35:57,680
most dangerous and basically provide the
greatest threat of national security to
1616
00:35:57,680 –> 00:35:57,690
greatest threat of national security to
1617
00:35:57,690 –> 00:35:59,480
greatest threat of national security to
our nation right now can you speak to
1618
00:35:59,480 –> 00:35:59,490
our nation right now can you speak to
1619
00:35:59,490 –> 00:36:00,520
our nation right now can you speak to
that a little bit
1620
00:36:00,520 –> 00:36:00,530
that a little bit
1621
00:36:00,530 –> 00:36:03,400
that a little bit
sure I would say most commonly this is
1622
00:36:03,400 –> 00:36:03,410
sure I would say most commonly this is
1623
00:36:03,410 –> 00:36:06,160
sure I would say most commonly this is
described as four plus one and is kind
1624
00:36:06,160 –> 00:36:06,170
described as four plus one and is kind
1625
00:36:06,170 –> 00:36:09,130
described as four plus one and is kind
of the common terminology used in DC
1626
00:36:09,130 –> 00:36:09,140
of the common terminology used in DC
1627
00:36:09,140 –> 00:36:14,620
of the common terminology used in DC
inside-the-beltway as you say 495 yeah
1628
00:36:14,620 –> 00:36:14,630
inside-the-beltway as you say 495 yeah
1629
00:36:14,630 –> 00:36:18,300
inside-the-beltway as you say 495 yeah
and the for basically Russia China Iran
1630
00:36:18,300 –> 00:36:18,310
and the for basically Russia China Iran
1631
00:36:18,310 –> 00:36:21,520
and the for basically Russia China Iran
in North Korea and the one is terrorism
1632
00:36:21,520 –> 00:36:21,530
in North Korea and the one is terrorism
1633
00:36:21,530 –> 00:36:24,160
in North Korea and the one is terrorism
because it’s known stating player so the
1634
00:36:24,160 –> 00:36:24,170
because it’s known stating player so the
1635
00:36:24,170 –> 00:36:26,740
because it’s known stating player so the
four plus one is where I think most
1636
00:36:26,740 –> 00:36:26,750
four plus one is where I think most
1637
00:36:26,750 –> 00:36:28,900
four plus one is where I think most
conventional wisdom on the hill is right
1638
00:36:28,900 –> 00:36:28,910
conventional wisdom on the hill is right
1639
00:36:28,910 –> 00:36:30,820
conventional wisdom on the hill is right
now considered to be the great dangerous
1640
00:36:30,820 –> 00:36:30,830
now considered to be the great dangerous
1641
00:36:30,830 –> 00:36:31,270
now considered to be the great dangerous
witch
1642
00:36:31,270 –> 00:36:31,280
witch
1643
00:36:31,280 –> 00:36:33,099
witch
yeah there’s overlap between those
1644
00:36:33,099 –> 00:36:33,109
yeah there’s overlap between those
1645
00:36:33,109 –> 00:36:35,140
yeah there’s overlap between those
things and so it’s it’s it’s hard to
1646
00:36:35,140 –> 00:36:35,150
things and so it’s it’s it’s hard to
1647
00:36:35,150 –> 00:36:36,910
things and so it’s it’s it’s hard to
separate things out that well you
1648
00:36:36,910 –> 00:36:36,920
separate things out that well you
1649
00:36:36,920 –> 00:36:39,250
separate things out that well you
mentioned North Korea certainly moved
1650
00:36:39,250 –> 00:36:39,260
mentioned North Korea certainly moved
1651
00:36:39,260 –> 00:36:42,430
mentioned North Korea certainly moved
North Korea is is is potentially
1652
00:36:42,430 –> 00:36:42,440
North Korea is is is potentially
1653
00:36:42,440 –> 00:36:44,560
North Korea is is is potentially
dangerous they’ve got nuclear weapons
1654
00:36:44,560 –> 00:36:44,570
dangerous they’ve got nuclear weapons
1655
00:36:44,570 –> 00:36:47,380
dangerous they’ve got nuclear weapons
they appeared in their last a big test
1656
00:36:47,380 –> 00:36:47,390
they appeared in their last a big test
1657
00:36:47,390 –> 00:36:49,210
they appeared in their last a big test
that apparently destroyed one of their
1658
00:36:49,210 –> 00:36:49,220
that apparently destroyed one of their
1659
00:36:49,220 –> 00:36:51,160
that apparently destroyed one of their
testing centers it all kind of collapsed
1660
00:36:51,160 –> 00:36:51,170
testing centers it all kind of collapsed
1661
00:36:51,170 –> 00:36:53,230
testing centers it all kind of collapsed
in on the caves and so on according to
1662
00:36:53,230 –> 00:36:53,240
in on the caves and so on according to
1663
00:36:53,240 –> 00:36:55,089
in on the caves and so on according to
what I read in the press again I don’t
1664
00:36:55,089 –> 00:36:55,099
what I read in the press again I don’t
1665
00:36:55,099 –> 00:36:56,440
what I read in the press again I don’t
have any special intelligence on this
1666
00:36:56,440 –> 00:36:56,450
have any special intelligence on this
1667
00:36:56,450 –> 00:36:59,410
have any special intelligence on this
but they exploded a hydrogen device as
1668
00:36:59,410 –> 00:36:59,420
but they exploded a hydrogen device as
1669
00:36:59,420 –> 00:37:02,290
but they exploded a hydrogen device as
well which is much larger than like the
1670
00:37:02,290 –> 00:37:02,300
well which is much larger than like the
1671
00:37:02,300 –> 00:37:03,550
well which is much larger than like the
original atom bomb type thing and
1672
00:37:03,550 –> 00:37:03,560
original atom bomb type thing and
1673
00:37:03,560 –> 00:37:05,290
original atom bomb type thing and
extraordinarily dangerous something that
1674
00:37:05,290 –> 00:37:05,300
extraordinarily dangerous something that
1675
00:37:05,300 –> 00:37:08,230
extraordinarily dangerous something that
could take out you know large sections
1676
00:37:08,230 –> 00:37:08,240
could take out you know large sections
1677
00:37:08,240 –> 00:37:09,790
could take out you know large sections
of a state and search for certainly
1678
00:37:09,790 –> 00:37:09,800
of a state and search for certainly
1679
00:37:09,800 –> 00:37:12,730
of a state and search for certainly
major cities and so on so that’s
1680
00:37:12,730 –> 00:37:12,740
major cities and so on so that’s
1681
00:37:12,740 –> 00:37:14,500
major cities and so on so that’s
potentially dangerous and you’ve got a
1682
00:37:14,500 –> 00:37:14,510
potentially dangerous and you’ve got a
1683
00:37:14,510 –> 00:37:17,650
potentially dangerous and you’ve got a
guy who is mercurial who could is
1684
00:37:17,650 –> 00:37:17,660
guy who is mercurial who could is
1685
00:37:17,660 –> 00:37:19,810
guy who is mercurial who could is
certainly willing to do stuff and kill
1686
00:37:19,810 –> 00:37:19,820
certainly willing to do stuff and kill
1687
00:37:19,820 –> 00:37:22,420
certainly willing to do stuff and kill
people and so on what he executes his
1688
00:37:22,420 –> 00:37:22,430
people and so on what he executes his
1689
00:37:22,430 –> 00:37:24,520
people and so on what he executes his
uncle with an anti-aircraft gun I
1690
00:37:24,520 –> 00:37:24,530
uncle with an anti-aircraft gun I
1691
00:37:24,530 –> 00:37:26,200
uncle with an anti-aircraft gun I
brought I don’t know 30 feet away or
1692
00:37:26,200 –> 00:37:26,210
brought I don’t know 30 feet away or
1693
00:37:26,210 –> 00:37:27,910
brought I don’t know 30 feet away or
something which is just it’s gonna
1694
00:37:27,910 –> 00:37:27,920
something which is just it’s gonna
1695
00:37:27,920 –> 00:37:30,670
something which is just it’s gonna
vaporize this guy so I mean he’s he’s a
1696
00:37:30,670 –> 00:37:30,680
vaporize this guy so I mean he’s he’s a
1697
00:37:30,680 –> 00:37:33,220
vaporize this guy so I mean he’s he’s a
little bit nuts so you gotta be careful
1698
00:37:33,220 –> 00:37:33,230
little bit nuts so you gotta be careful
1699
00:37:33,230 –> 00:37:35,440
little bit nuts so you gotta be careful
people like that and I would I would put
1700
00:37:35,440 –> 00:37:35,450
people like that and I would I would put
1701
00:37:35,450 –> 00:37:37,510
people like that and I would I would put
it ran into a similar boat you know
1702
00:37:37,510 –> 00:37:37,520
it ran into a similar boat you know
1703
00:37:37,520 –> 00:37:39,520
it ran into a similar boat you know
they’re working hard to get nuclear
1704
00:37:39,520 –> 00:37:39,530
they’re working hard to get nuclear
1705
00:37:39,530 –> 00:37:43,510
they’re working hard to get nuclear
weapons as well and we mustn’t forget
1706
00:37:43,510 –> 00:37:43,520
weapons as well and we mustn’t forget
1707
00:37:43,520 –> 00:37:46,450
weapons as well and we mustn’t forget
there are relationships between Iran and
1708
00:37:46,450 –> 00:37:46,460
there are relationships between Iran and
1709
00:37:46,460 –> 00:37:49,480
there are relationships between Iran and
North Korea and if you look at for
1710
00:37:49,480 –> 00:37:49,490
North Korea and if you look at for
1711
00:37:49,490 –> 00:37:50,800
North Korea and if you look at for
example their ballistic missile program
1712
00:37:50,800 –> 00:37:50,810
example their ballistic missile program
1713
00:37:50,810 –> 00:37:56,320
example their ballistic missile program
that is on the Iranian side and then
1714
00:37:56,320 –> 00:37:56,330
that is on the Iranian side and then
1715
00:37:56,330 –> 00:37:58,030
that is on the Iranian side and then
don’t all missiles on the Korean side
1716
00:37:58,030 –> 00:37:58,040
don’t all missiles on the Korean side
1717
00:37:58,040 –> 00:38:00,190
don’t all missiles on the Korean side
are basically to say missile if that
1718
00:38:00,190 –> 00:38:00,200
are basically to say missile if that
1719
00:38:00,200 –> 00:38:01,630
are basically to say missile if that
technology has been shared they just
1720
00:38:01,630 –> 00:38:01,640
technology has been shared they just
1721
00:38:01,640 –> 00:38:05,130
technology has been shared they just
changed the name now you you have a
1722
00:38:05,130 –> 00:38:05,140
changed the name now you you have a
1723
00:38:05,140 –> 00:38:08,290
changed the name now you you have a
potent delivery system and you now have
1724
00:38:08,290 –> 00:38:08,300
potent delivery system and you now have
1725
00:38:08,300 –> 00:38:10,810
potent delivery system and you now have
a hydrogen bomb in the hands of North
1726
00:38:10,810 –> 00:38:10,820
a hydrogen bomb in the hands of North
1727
00:38:10,820 –> 00:38:14,980
a hydrogen bomb in the hands of North
Koreans and I believe that emits ara
1728
00:38:14,980 –> 00:38:14,990
Koreans and I believe that emits ara
1729
00:38:14,990 –> 00:38:17,500
Koreans and I believe that emits ara
that they could reach Los Angeles which
1730
00:38:17,500 –> 00:38:17,510
that they could reach Los Angeles which
1731
00:38:17,510 –> 00:38:19,210
that they could reach Los Angeles which
I mean that’s dangerous thankful
1732
00:38:19,210 –> 00:38:19,220
I mean that’s dangerous thankful
1733
00:38:19,220 –> 00:38:21,990
I mean that’s dangerous thankful
hydrogen bomb millions being fired by
1734
00:38:21,990 –> 00:38:22,000
hydrogen bomb millions being fired by
1735
00:38:22,000 –> 00:38:25,060
hydrogen bomb millions being fired by
those yeah extraordinarily dangerous so
1736
00:38:25,060 –> 00:38:25,070
those yeah extraordinarily dangerous so
1737
00:38:25,070 –> 00:38:28,180
those yeah extraordinarily dangerous so
I think wisely so this is one of the
1738
00:38:28,180 –> 00:38:28,190
I think wisely so this is one of the
1739
00:38:28,190 –> 00:38:29,860
I think wisely so this is one of the
things that certainly the Trump
1740
00:38:29,860 –> 00:38:29,870
things that certainly the Trump
1741
00:38:29,870 –> 00:38:31,660
things that certainly the Trump
administration but people in general I
1742
00:38:31,660 –> 00:38:31,670
administration but people in general I
1743
00:38:31,670 –> 00:38:34,180
administration but people in general I
think there’s fairly good agreement that
1744
00:38:34,180 –> 00:38:34,190
think there’s fairly good agreement that
1745
00:38:34,190 –> 00:38:35,620
think there’s fairly good agreement that
these things are dangerous that need to
1746
00:38:35,620 –> 00:38:35,630
these things are dangerous that need to
1747
00:38:35,630 –> 00:38:37,840
these things are dangerous that need to
be taken care of but I would say Trump
1748
00:38:37,840 –> 00:38:37,850
be taken care of but I would say Trump
1749
00:38:37,850 –> 00:38:39,730
be taken care of but I would say Trump
Trump’s in a position even though he’s
1750
00:38:39,730 –> 00:38:39,740
Trump’s in a position even though he’s
1751
00:38:39,740 –> 00:38:40,780
Trump’s in a position even though he’s
forging ahead
1752
00:38:40,780 –> 00:38:40,790
forging ahead
1753
00:38:40,790 –> 00:38:44,680
forging ahead
what well and we with Korea and has a
1754
00:38:44,680 –> 00:38:44,690
what well and we with Korea and has a
1755
00:38:44,690 –> 00:38:47,560
what well and we with Korea and has a
chance of accomplishing some stuff I
1756
00:38:47,560 –> 00:38:47,570
chance of accomplishing some stuff I
1757
00:38:47,570 –> 00:38:49,570
chance of accomplishing some stuff I
mean no guarantees but accomplishment I
1758
00:38:49,570 –> 00:38:49,580
mean no guarantees but accomplishment I
1759
00:38:49,580 –> 00:38:51,100
mean no guarantees but accomplishment I
mean he’s rapidly criticized for it I
1760
00:38:51,100 –> 00:38:51,110
mean he’s rapidly criticized for it I
1761
00:38:51,110 –> 00:38:54,660
mean he’s rapidly criticized for it I
mean I would I would say if you know
1762
00:38:54,660 –> 00:38:54,670
mean I would I would say if you know
1763
00:38:54,670 –> 00:38:57,370
mean I would I would say if you know
Trump could walk on water the left would
1764
00:38:57,370 –> 00:38:57,380
Trump could walk on water the left would
1765
00:38:57,380 –> 00:38:59,470
Trump could walk on water the left would
accuse him of water pollution I mean I
1766
00:38:59,470 –> 00:38:59,480
accuse him of water pollution I mean I
1767
00:38:59,480 –> 00:39:02,710
accuse him of water pollution I mean I
said just nothing he’s going to be able
1768
00:39:02,710 –> 00:39:02,720
said just nothing he’s going to be able
1769
00:39:02,720 –> 00:39:06,130
said just nothing he’s going to be able
to do that’s gonna be greeted as what it
1770
00:39:06,130 –> 00:39:06,140
to do that’s gonna be greeted as what it
1771
00:39:06,140 –> 00:39:07,960
to do that’s gonna be greeted as what it
should be I mean even though the job
1772
00:39:07,960 –> 00:39:07,970
should be I mean even though the job
1773
00:39:07,970 –> 00:39:09,400
should be I mean even though the job
number said he’s from United States
1774
00:39:09,400 –> 00:39:09,410
number said he’s from United States
1775
00:39:09,410 –> 00:39:10,870
number said he’s from United States
which are fabulous some of the best
1776
00:39:10,870 –> 00:39:10,880
which are fabulous some of the best
1777
00:39:10,880 –> 00:39:13,060
which are fabulous some of the best
numbers ever and he’s you know he’s not
1778
00:39:13,060 –> 00:39:13,070
numbers ever and he’s you know he’s not
1779
00:39:13,070 –> 00:39:15,670
numbers ever and he’s you know he’s not
getting credit for any of that so no but
1780
00:39:15,670 –> 00:39:15,680
getting credit for any of that so no but
1781
00:39:15,680 –> 00:39:17,020
getting credit for any of that so no but
I will say I think he’s done a
1782
00:39:17,020 –> 00:39:17,030
I will say I think he’s done a
1783
00:39:17,030 –> 00:39:21,640
I will say I think he’s done a
fundamentally fantastic job with North
1784
00:39:21,640 –> 00:39:21,650
fundamentally fantastic job with North
1785
00:39:21,650 –> 00:39:24,700
fundamentally fantastic job with North
Korea I think he’s still working his way
1786
00:39:24,700 –> 00:39:24,710
Korea I think he’s still working his way
1787
00:39:24,710 –> 00:39:27,700
Korea I think he’s still working his way
through China but doing solid I think
1788
00:39:27,700 –> 00:39:27,710
through China but doing solid I think
1789
00:39:27,710 –> 00:39:28,870
through China but doing solid I think
he’s working his way through Russia
1790
00:39:28,870 –> 00:39:28,880
he’s working his way through Russia
1791
00:39:28,880 –> 00:39:33,970
he’s working his way through Russia
Russia but he’s been impeded because of
1792
00:39:33,970 –> 00:39:33,980
Russia but he’s been impeded because of
1793
00:39:33,980 –> 00:39:37,150
Russia but he’s been impeded because of
this fake Russia investigation so he’s
1794
00:39:37,150 –> 00:39:37,160
this fake Russia investigation so he’s
1795
00:39:37,160 –> 00:39:39,460
this fake Russia investigation so he’s
got a difficult problem there he’s done
1796
00:39:39,460 –> 00:39:39,470
got a difficult problem there he’s done
1797
00:39:39,470 –> 00:39:41,740
got a difficult problem there he’s done
fairly well on terrorism too so I mean
1798
00:39:41,740 –> 00:39:41,750
fairly well on terrorism too so I mean
1799
00:39:41,750 –> 00:39:43,690
fairly well on terrorism too so I mean
he’s working against all of these things
1800
00:39:43,690 –> 00:39:43,700
he’s working against all of these things
1801
00:39:43,700 –> 00:39:46,810
he’s working against all of these things
across the board and I don’t have to say
1802
00:39:46,810 –> 00:39:46,820
across the board and I don’t have to say
1803
00:39:46,820 –> 00:39:49,090
across the board and I don’t have to say
really do the known an awfully good job
1804
00:39:49,090 –> 00:39:49,100
really do the known an awfully good job
1805
00:39:49,100 –> 00:39:52,720
really do the known an awfully good job
I would give him a name I would too Brad
1806
00:39:52,720 –> 00:39:52,730
I would give him a name I would too Brad
1807
00:39:52,730 –> 00:39:55,000
I would give him a name I would too Brad
I would and as you said the headwinds
1808
00:39:55,000 –> 00:39:55,010
I would and as you said the headwinds
1809
00:39:55,010 –> 00:39:56,680
I would and as you said the headwinds
that he’s had to fight
1810
00:39:56,680 –> 00:39:56,690
that he’s had to fight
1811
00:39:56,690 –> 00:39:59,500
that he’s had to fight
in DC to do this has been incredible to
1812
00:39:59,500 –> 00:39:59,510
in DC to do this has been incredible to
1813
00:39:59,510 –> 00:40:02,650
in DC to do this has been incredible to
accomplish what he’s done by the way
1814
00:40:02,650 –> 00:40:02,660
accomplish what he’s done by the way
1815
00:40:02,660 –> 00:40:04,660
accomplish what he’s done by the way
don’t I’m gonna I’m not gonna play this
1816
00:40:04,660 –> 00:40:04,670
don’t I’m gonna I’m not gonna play this
1817
00:40:04,670 –> 00:40:06,430
don’t I’m gonna I’m not gonna play this
that part of the interview to my nephew
1818
00:40:06,430 –> 00:40:06,440
that part of the interview to my nephew
1819
00:40:06,440 –> 00:40:09,100
that part of the interview to my nephew
when you said that on killed the uncle
1820
00:40:09,100 –> 00:40:09,110
when you said that on killed the uncle
1821
00:40:09,110 –> 00:40:12,450
when you said that on killed the uncle
with the gun now to give my nephew some
1822
00:40:12,450 –> 00:40:12,460
with the gun now to give my nephew some
1823
00:40:12,460 –> 00:40:16,330
with the gun now to give my nephew some
to cut that out of this interview today
1824
00:40:16,330 –> 00:40:16,340
to cut that out of this interview today
1825
00:40:16,340 –> 00:40:18,130
to cut that out of this interview today
I’m sure he’s listening tonight laughing
1826
00:40:18,130 –> 00:40:18,140
I’m sure he’s listening tonight laughing
1827
00:40:18,140 –> 00:40:19,990
I’m sure he’s listening tonight laughing
at that he’s a good kid
1828
00:40:19,990 –> 00:40:20,000
at that he’s a good kid
1829
00:40:20,000 –> 00:40:21,880
at that he’s a good kid
I do want to ask you a little bit about
1830
00:40:21,880 –> 00:40:21,890
I do want to ask you a little bit about
1831
00:40:21,890 –> 00:40:23,800
I do want to ask you a little bit about
Murray though and at this june 12th
1832
00:40:23,800 –> 00:40:23,810
Murray though and at this june 12th
1833
00:40:23,810 –> 00:40:26,830
Murray though and at this june 12th
meeting that’s coming up brandon in your
1834
00:40:26,830 –> 00:40:26,840
meeting that’s coming up brandon in your
1835
00:40:26,840 –> 00:40:28,780
meeting that’s coming up brandon in your
honest opinion can we can we really
1836
00:40:28,780 –> 00:40:28,790
honest opinion can we can we really
1837
00:40:28,790 –> 00:40:30,760
honest opinion can we can we really
trust these people are we are we walking
1838
00:40:30,760 –> 00:40:30,770
trust these people are we are we walking
1839
00:40:30,770 –> 00:40:32,860
trust these people are we are we walking
into something there yeah and again i
1840
00:40:32,860 –> 00:40:32,870
into something there yeah and again i
1841
00:40:32,870 –> 00:40:34,450
into something there yeah and again i
agree with you what you said your phone
1842
00:40:34,450 –> 00:40:34,460
agree with you what you said your phone
1843
00:40:34,460 –> 00:40:36,070
agree with you what you said your phone
a little saving i’m a hundred percent
1844
00:40:36,070 –> 00:40:36,080
a little saving i’m a hundred percent
1845
00:40:36,080 –> 00:40:38,380
a little saving i’m a hundred percent
agree with you we got to do something we
1846
00:40:38,380 –> 00:40:38,390
agree with you we got to do something we
1847
00:40:38,390 –> 00:40:40,270
agree with you we got to do something we
cannot just sit around and let this guy
1848
00:40:40,270 –> 00:40:40,280
cannot just sit around and let this guy
1849
00:40:40,280 –> 00:40:42,460
cannot just sit around and let this guy
out of keep doing what he’s doing i feel
1850
00:40:42,460 –> 00:40:42,470
out of keep doing what he’s doing i feel
1851
00:40:42,470 –> 00:40:44,860
out of keep doing what he’s doing i feel
like it was the right thing to meet but
1852
00:40:44,860 –> 00:40:44,870
like it was the right thing to meet but
1853
00:40:44,870 –> 00:40:46,690
like it was the right thing to meet but
when President Trump sits down at that
1854
00:40:46,690 –> 00:40:46,700
when President Trump sits down at that
1855
00:40:46,700 –> 00:40:48,640
when President Trump sits down at that
table are we negotiating with people
1856
00:40:48,640 –> 00:40:48,650
table are we negotiating with people
1857
00:40:48,650 –> 00:40:51,580
table are we negotiating with people
that we can trust now do you think he’s
1858
00:40:51,580 –> 00:40:51,590
that we can trust now do you think he’s
1859
00:40:51,590 –> 00:40:53,800
that we can trust now do you think he’s
ready to put all of his nuclear
1860
00:40:53,800 –> 00:40:53,810
ready to put all of his nuclear
1861
00:40:53,810 –> 00:40:55,590
ready to put all of his nuclear
ambitions awaiting for the sake of peace
1862
00:40:55,590 –> 00:40:55,600
ambitions awaiting for the sake of peace
1863
00:40:55,600 –> 00:41:01,390
ambitions awaiting for the sake of peace
or is this a fool’s errand well I mean
1864
00:41:01,390 –> 00:41:01,400
or is this a fool’s errand well I mean
1865
00:41:01,400 –> 00:41:03,580
or is this a fool’s errand well I mean
there’s there’s is with anything of this
1866
00:41:03,580 –> 00:41:03,590
there’s there’s is with anything of this
1867
00:41:03,590 –> 00:41:05,830
there’s there’s is with anything of this
nature there’s there’s a number of
1868
00:41:05,830 –> 00:41:05,840
nature there’s there’s a number of
1869
00:41:05,840 –> 00:41:08,890
nature there’s there’s a number of
definitions of success and failures so I
1870
00:41:08,890 –> 00:41:08,900
definitions of success and failures so I
1871
00:41:08,900 –> 00:41:13,240
definitions of success and failures so I
would say probably I mean the whole
1872
00:41:13,240 –> 00:41:13,250
would say probably I mean the whole
1873
00:41:13,250 –> 00:41:15,160
would say probably I mean the whole
thing could melt down the guy is as I
1874
00:41:15,160 –> 00:41:15,170
thing could melt down the guy is as I
1875
00:41:15,170 –> 00:41:17,200
thing could melt down the guy is as I
said the whole thing could melt down and
1876
00:41:17,200 –> 00:41:17,210
said the whole thing could melt down and
1877
00:41:17,210 –> 00:41:20,520
said the whole thing could melt down and
and accomplish absolutely nothing and
1878
00:41:20,520 –> 00:41:20,530
and accomplish absolutely nothing and
1879
00:41:20,530 –> 00:41:23,200
and accomplish absolutely nothing and
even if it’s succeeds to some degree or
1880
00:41:23,200 –> 00:41:23,210
even if it’s succeeds to some degree or
1881
00:41:23,210 –> 00:41:24,940
even if it’s succeeds to some degree or
if it fails completely Trump will get
1882
00:41:24,940 –> 00:41:24,950
if it fails completely Trump will get
1883
00:41:24,950 –> 00:41:29,590
if it fails completely Trump will get
criticized for yeah in in the in the you
1884
00:41:29,590 –> 00:41:29,600
criticized for yeah in in the in the you
1885
00:41:29,600 –> 00:41:31,660
criticized for yeah in in the in the you
know just honest look at the thing if it
1886
00:41:31,660 –> 00:41:31,670
know just honest look at the thing if it
1887
00:41:31,670 –> 00:41:33,880
know just honest look at the thing if it
falls apart were no worse off you know
1888
00:41:33,880 –> 00:41:33,890
falls apart were no worse off you know
1889
00:41:33,890 –> 00:41:35,440
falls apart were no worse off you know
we’re in basically the same boat we were
1890
00:41:35,440 –> 00:41:35,450
we’re in basically the same boat we were
1891
00:41:35,450 –> 00:41:37,720
we’re in basically the same boat we were
what would happen is Trump would then
1892
00:41:37,720 –> 00:41:37,730
what would happen is Trump would then
1893
00:41:37,730 –> 00:41:40,870
what would happen is Trump would then
enhance the the limits and embargoes and
1894
00:41:40,870 –> 00:41:40,880
enhance the the limits and embargoes and
1895
00:41:40,880 –> 00:41:43,860
enhance the the limits and embargoes and
so on that he’s put on North Korea and
1896
00:41:43,860 –> 00:41:43,870
so on that he’s put on North Korea and
1897
00:41:43,870 –> 00:41:46,480
so on that he’s put on North Korea and
economically they’ll continue to
1898
00:41:46,480 –> 00:41:46,490
economically they’ll continue to
1899
00:41:46,490 –> 00:41:48,370
economically they’ll continue to
flounder and economically you know
1900
00:41:48,370 –> 00:41:48,380
flounder and economically you know
1901
00:41:48,380 –> 00:41:49,540
flounder and economically you know
they’re on a hard time feeding their
1902
00:41:49,540 –> 00:41:49,550
they’re on a hard time feeding their
1903
00:41:49,550 –> 00:41:51,880
they’re on a hard time feeding their
people the North Korean people are
1904
00:41:51,880 –> 00:41:51,890
people the North Korean people are
1905
00:41:51,890 –> 00:41:54,970
people the North Korean people are
smaller in stature than the South Korean
1906
00:41:54,970 –> 00:41:54,980
smaller in stature than the South Korean
1907
00:41:54,980 –> 00:41:56,950
smaller in stature than the South Korean
people because strictly because of dike
1908
00:41:56,950 –> 00:41:56,960
people because strictly because of dike
1909
00:41:56,960 –> 00:41:58,780
people because strictly because of dike
just they don’t get enough food to grow
1910
00:41:58,780 –> 00:41:58,790
just they don’t get enough food to grow
1911
00:41:58,790 –> 00:42:01,000
just they don’t get enough food to grow
so they’re they’re getting smaller and
1912
00:42:01,000 –> 00:42:01,010
so they’re they’re getting smaller and
1913
00:42:01,010 –> 00:42:03,100
so they’re they’re getting smaller and
smaller as a people so I mean he
1914
00:42:03,100 –> 00:42:03,110
smaller as a people so I mean he
1915
00:42:03,110 –> 00:42:05,200
smaller as a people so I mean he
recognizes that there’s problems and
1916
00:42:05,200 –> 00:42:05,210
recognizes that there’s problems and
1917
00:42:05,210 –> 00:42:06,850
recognizes that there’s problems and
somewhere under the surface there with
1918
00:42:06,850 –> 00:42:06,860
somewhere under the surface there with
1919
00:42:06,860 –> 00:42:07,470
somewhere under the surface there with
people start
1920
00:42:07,470 –> 00:42:07,480
people start
1921
00:42:07,480 –> 00:42:09,530
people start
to death and not getting enough to eat
1922
00:42:09,530 –> 00:42:09,540
to death and not getting enough to eat
1923
00:42:09,540 –> 00:42:11,790
to death and not getting enough to eat
somewhere under the surface there’s some
1924
00:42:11,790 –> 00:42:11,800
somewhere under the surface there’s some
1925
00:42:11,800 –> 00:42:14,490
somewhere under the surface there’s some
problems so I think he recognizes that
1926
00:42:14,490 –> 00:42:14,500
problems so I think he recognizes that
1927
00:42:14,500 –> 00:42:16,650
problems so I think he recognizes that
even you know as a as a relatively young
1928
00:42:16,650 –> 00:42:16,660
even you know as a as a relatively young
1929
00:42:16,660 –> 00:42:19,140
even you know as a as a relatively young
man in his late 20s I believe or early
1930
00:42:19,140 –> 00:42:19,150
man in his late 20s I believe or early
1931
00:42:19,150 –> 00:42:22,910
man in his late 20s I believe or early
thirties that he’s he wants long term
1932
00:42:22,910 –> 00:42:22,920
thirties that he’s he wants long term
1933
00:42:22,920 –> 00:42:25,500
thirties that he’s he wants long term
power there so he’s gonna have to
1934
00:42:25,500 –> 00:42:25,510
power there so he’s gonna have to
1935
00:42:25,510 –> 00:42:27,840
power there so he’s gonna have to
address these economic issues so the way
1936
00:42:27,840 –> 00:42:27,850
address these economic issues so the way
1937
00:42:27,850 –> 00:42:31,290
address these economic issues so the way
out is to try to make to ride at some
1938
00:42:31,290 –> 00:42:31,300
out is to try to make to ride at some
1939
00:42:31,300 –> 00:42:33,120
out is to try to make to ride at some
sort of peace negotiations with the
1940
00:42:33,120 –> 00:42:33,130
sort of peace negotiations with the
1941
00:42:33,130 –> 00:42:34,650
sort of peace negotiations with the
United States so he does have some
1942
00:42:34,650 –> 00:42:34,660
United States so he does have some
1943
00:42:34,660 –> 00:42:36,960
United States so he does have some
motivation doesn’t mean it’ll come true
1944
00:42:36,960 –> 00:42:36,970
motivation doesn’t mean it’ll come true
1945
00:42:36,970 –> 00:42:38,609
motivation doesn’t mean it’ll come true
but he does have certain evasion and
1946
00:42:38,609 –> 00:42:38,619
but he does have certain evasion and
1947
00:42:38,619 –> 00:42:41,220
but he does have certain evasion and
you’ve got Trump who recognizes this and
1948
00:42:41,220 –> 00:42:41,230
you’ve got Trump who recognizes this and
1949
00:42:41,230 –> 00:42:43,349
you’ve got Trump who recognizes this and
has been tightening the screws on it so
1950
00:42:43,349 –> 00:42:43,359
has been tightening the screws on it so
1951
00:42:43,359 –> 00:42:45,900
has been tightening the screws on it so
I think I would my personal opinion
1952
00:42:45,900 –> 00:42:45,910
I think I would my personal opinion
1953
00:42:45,910 –> 00:42:47,520
I think I would my personal opinion
again no inside information but my
1954
00:42:47,520 –> 00:42:47,530
again no inside information but my
1955
00:42:47,530 –> 00:42:49,740
again no inside information but my
personal opinion is that probably the
1956
00:42:49,740 –> 00:42:49,750
personal opinion is that probably the
1957
00:42:49,750 –> 00:42:52,109
personal opinion is that probably the
least we can hope for on the positive
1958
00:42:52,109 –> 00:42:52,119
least we can hope for on the positive
1959
00:42:52,119 –> 00:42:56,190
least we can hope for on the positive
scale is to finally sign a peace treaty
1960
00:42:56,190 –> 00:42:56,200
scale is to finally sign a peace treaty
1961
00:42:56,200 –> 00:42:58,770
scale is to finally sign a peace treaty
with North and South Korea and at peace
1962
00:42:58,770 –> 00:42:58,780
with North and South Korea and at peace
1963
00:42:58,780 –> 00:43:01,260
with North and South Korea and at peace
and essentially just have her alone what
1964
00:43:01,260 –> 00:43:01,270
and essentially just have her alone what
1965
00:43:01,270 –> 00:43:05,220
and essentially just have her alone what
60 years of absolute lore and and don’t
1966
00:43:05,220 –> 00:43:05,230
60 years of absolute lore and and don’t
1967
00:43:05,230 –> 00:43:07,460
60 years of absolute lore and and don’t
forget for those who have forgotten that
1968
00:43:07,460 –> 00:43:07,470
forget for those who have forgotten that
1969
00:43:07,470 –> 00:43:11,280
forget for those who have forgotten that
DMZ a two mile wide strip between North
1970
00:43:11,280 –> 00:43:11,290
DMZ a two mile wide strip between North
1971
00:43:11,290 –> 00:43:12,990
DMZ a two mile wide strip between North
and South Korea there’s been a lot of
1972
00:43:12,990 –> 00:43:13,000
and South Korea there’s been a lot of
1973
00:43:13,000 –> 00:43:14,400
and South Korea there’s been a lot of
fighting that’s taking place in that
1974
00:43:14,400 –> 00:43:14,410
fighting that’s taking place in that
1975
00:43:14,410 –> 00:43:16,410
fighting that’s taking place in that
period over this over the years since
1976
00:43:16,410 –> 00:43:16,420
period over this over the years since
1977
00:43:16,420 –> 00:43:19,859
period over this over the years since
that you know the actual glorified stop
1978
00:43:19,859 –> 00:43:19,869
that you know the actual glorified stop
1979
00:43:19,869 –> 00:43:22,109
that you know the actual glorified stop
including Americans getting killed but
1980
00:43:22,109 –> 00:43:22,119
including Americans getting killed but
1981
00:43:22,119 –> 00:43:23,430
including Americans getting killed but
certainly North and South Koreans
1982
00:43:23,430 –> 00:43:23,440
certainly North and South Koreans
1983
00:43:23,440 –> 00:43:24,810
certainly North and South Koreans
fighting and killing each other and so
1984
00:43:24,810 –> 00:43:24,820
fighting and killing each other and so
1985
00:43:24,820 –> 00:43:26,880
fighting and killing each other and so
on so I mean it’s it’s always simmered
1986
00:43:26,880 –> 00:43:26,890
on so I mean it’s it’s always simmered
1987
00:43:26,890 –> 00:43:28,410
on so I mean it’s it’s always simmered
there with people getting killed all
1988
00:43:28,410 –> 00:43:28,420
there with people getting killed all
1989
00:43:28,420 –> 00:43:30,840
there with people getting killed all
along and gun battles and all sorts of
1990
00:43:30,840 –> 00:43:30,850
along and gun battles and all sorts of
1991
00:43:30,850 –> 00:43:34,109
along and gun battles and all sorts of
stuff taking place so I think that would
1992
00:43:34,109 –> 00:43:34,119
stuff taking place so I think that would
1993
00:43:34,119 –> 00:43:37,320
stuff taking place so I think that would
be a very you great achievement by
1994
00:43:37,320 –> 00:43:37,330
be a very you great achievement by
1995
00:43:37,330 –> 00:43:39,090
be a very you great achievement by
itself something that many other people
1996
00:43:39,090 –> 00:43:39,100
itself something that many other people
1997
00:43:39,100 –> 00:43:41,099
itself something that many other people
tried to do not accomplish and of course
1998
00:43:41,099 –> 00:43:41,109
tried to do not accomplish and of course
1999
00:43:41,109 –> 00:43:43,320
tried to do not accomplish and of course
one none on the on there and that would
2000
00:43:43,320 –> 00:43:43,330
one none on the on there and that would
2001
00:43:43,330 –> 00:43:45,599
one none on the on there and that would
be a good interim step I would say so
2002
00:43:45,599 –> 00:43:45,609
be a good interim step I would say so
2003
00:43:45,609 –> 00:43:47,280
be a good interim step I would say so
we’re really kind of hoping something
2004
00:43:47,280 –> 00:43:47,290
we’re really kind of hoping something
2005
00:43:47,290 –> 00:43:49,320
we’re really kind of hoping something
that that nature happens at least furro
2006
00:43:49,320 –> 00:43:49,330
that that nature happens at least furro
2007
00:43:49,330 –> 00:43:51,570
that that nature happens at least furro
and then if the president can take build
2008
00:43:51,570 –> 00:43:51,580
and then if the president can take build
2009
00:43:51,580 –> 00:43:53,160
and then if the president can take build
on that and take it to a level where
2010
00:43:53,160 –> 00:43:53,170
on that and take it to a level where
2011
00:43:53,170 –> 00:43:55,170
on that and take it to a level where
North Korea gets rid of their new
2012
00:43:55,170 –> 00:43:55,180
North Korea gets rid of their new
2013
00:43:55,180 –> 00:43:57,270
North Korea gets rid of their new
because I mean that’s on a very long
2014
00:43:57,270 –> 00:43:57,280
because I mean that’s on a very long
2015
00:43:57,280 –> 00:43:59,070
because I mean that’s on a very long
bridges if it have to be crossed a long
2016
00:43:59,070 –> 00:43:59,080
bridges if it have to be crossed a long
2017
00:43:59,080 –> 00:44:00,900
bridges if it have to be crossed a long
process is asserting nothing that’s
2018
00:44:00,900 –> 00:44:00,910
process is asserting nothing that’s
2019
00:44:00,910 –> 00:44:02,640
process is asserting nothing that’s
going to take place I mean I would be
2020
00:44:02,640 –> 00:44:02,650
going to take place I mean I would be
2021
00:44:02,650 –> 00:44:04,170
going to take place I mean I would be
stunned if something like that could
2022
00:44:04,170 –> 00:44:04,180
stunned if something like that could
2023
00:44:04,180 –> 00:44:07,740
stunned if something like that could
take place within a year possible but
2024
00:44:07,740 –> 00:44:07,750
take place within a year possible but
2025
00:44:07,750 –> 00:44:09,690
take place within a year possible but
unlikely but over a period of time I
2026
00:44:09,690 –> 00:44:09,700
unlikely but over a period of time I
2027
00:44:09,700 –> 00:44:11,810
unlikely but over a period of time I
think to denuclearize the Korean
2028
00:44:11,810 –> 00:44:11,820
think to denuclearize the Korean
2029
00:44:11,820 –> 00:44:15,660
think to denuclearize the Korean
Peninsula on the one side from the North
2030
00:44:15,660 –> 00:44:15,670
Peninsula on the one side from the North
2031
00:44:15,670 –> 00:44:19,670
Peninsula on the one side from the North
Koreans with the understanding that
2032
00:44:19,670 –> 00:44:19,680
2033
00:44:19,680 –> 00:44:21,270
there will be no
2034
00:44:21,270 –> 00:44:21,280
there will be no
2035
00:44:21,280 –> 00:44:23,520
there will be no
gene change and there’ll be economic
2036
00:44:23,520 –> 00:44:23,530
gene change and there’ll be economic
2037
00:44:23,530 –> 00:44:26,070
gene change and there’ll be economic
growth on the other where the United
2038
00:44:26,070 –> 00:44:26,080
growth on the other where the United
2039
00:44:26,080 –> 00:44:27,570
growth on the other where the United
States would tune it to certain things
2040
00:44:27,570 –> 00:44:27,580
States would tune it to certain things
2041
00:44:27,580 –> 00:44:30,480
States would tune it to certain things
to help them grow economically I think
2042
00:44:30,480 –> 00:44:30,490
to help them grow economically I think
2043
00:44:30,490 –> 00:44:33,060
to help them grow economically I think
that’s I think that’s in North Korea’s
2044
00:44:33,060 –> 00:44:33,070
that’s I think that’s in North Korea’s
2045
00:44:33,070 –> 00:44:35,010
that’s I think that’s in North Korea’s
interest I think they would be willing
2046
00:44:35,010 –> 00:44:35,020
interest I think they would be willing
2047
00:44:35,020 –> 00:44:39,000
interest I think they would be willing
to see it that way but you know it’s so
2048
00:44:39,000 –> 00:44:39,010
to see it that way but you know it’s so
2049
00:44:39,010 –> 00:44:44,070
to see it that way but you know it’s so
hard to predict right I mean the
2050
00:44:44,070 –> 00:44:44,080
hard to predict right I mean the
2051
00:44:44,080 –> 00:44:46,770
hard to predict right I mean the
concreting for this I’m not in any way
2052
00:44:46,770 –> 00:44:46,780
concreting for this I’m not in any way
2053
00:44:46,780 –> 00:44:48,570
concreting for this I’m not in any way
shape form or fashion against president
2054
00:44:48,570 –> 00:44:48,580
shape form or fashion against president
2055
00:44:48,580 –> 00:44:50,210
shape form or fashion against president
meeting with him I think it’s been a
2056
00:44:50,210 –> 00:44:50,220
meeting with him I think it’s been a
2057
00:44:50,220 –> 00:44:53,070
meeting with him I think it’s been a
historic monumental event in our
2058
00:44:53,070 –> 00:44:53,080
historic monumental event in our
2059
00:44:53,080 –> 00:44:55,470
historic monumental event in our
nation’s history and we got the we got a
2060
00:44:55,470 –> 00:44:55,480
nation’s history and we got the we got a
2061
00:44:55,480 –> 00:44:58,260
nation’s history and we got the we got a
chance to make history if the north and
2062
00:44:58,260 –> 00:44:58,270
chance to make history if the north and
2063
00:44:58,270 –> 00:44:59,670
chance to make history if the north and
south can reconcile their differences
2064
00:44:59,670 –> 00:44:59,680
south can reconcile their differences
2065
00:44:59,680 –> 00:45:01,950
south can reconcile their differences
and reunite that fine insula I think
2066
00:45:01,950 –> 00:45:01,960
and reunite that fine insula I think
2067
00:45:01,960 –> 00:45:04,410
and reunite that fine insula I think
it’s wonderful I think that the wild
2068
00:45:04,410 –> 00:45:04,420
it’s wonderful I think that the wild
2069
00:45:04,420 –> 00:45:06,420
it’s wonderful I think that the wild
card in this and the intangible like it
2070
00:45:06,420 –> 00:45:06,430
card in this and the intangible like it
2071
00:45:06,430 –> 00:45:08,100
card in this and the intangible like it
isn’t probably everything that America
2072
00:45:08,100 –> 00:45:08,110
isn’t probably everything that America
2073
00:45:08,110 –> 00:45:11,160
isn’t probably everything that America
does these days is China because you
2074
00:45:11,160 –> 00:45:11,170
does these days is China because you
2075
00:45:11,170 –> 00:45:13,140
does these days is China because you
don’t know what’s going on behind the
2076
00:45:13,140 –> 00:45:13,150
don’t know what’s going on behind the
2077
00:45:13,150 –> 00:45:15,090
don’t know what’s going on behind the
scenes totally and I wish you’d speak to
2078
00:45:15,090 –> 00:45:15,100
scenes totally and I wish you’d speak to
2079
00:45:15,100 –> 00:45:17,340
scenes totally and I wish you’d speak to
that a little bit if you had the
2080
00:45:17,340 –> 00:45:17,350
that a little bit if you had the
2081
00:45:17,350 –> 00:45:20,400
that a little bit if you had the
president’s ear today and you were
2082
00:45:20,400 –> 00:45:20,410
president’s ear today and you were
2083
00:45:20,410 –> 00:45:22,140
president’s ear today and you were
advising him on China
2084
00:45:22,140 –> 00:45:22,150
advising him on China
2085
00:45:22,150 –> 00:45:24,150
advising him on China
what what’s our best route to deal with
2086
00:45:24,150 –> 00:45:24,160
what what’s our best route to deal with
2087
00:45:24,160 –> 00:45:26,190
what what’s our best route to deal with
them and to neutralize their effect
2088
00:45:26,190 –> 00:45:26,200
them and to neutralize their effect
2089
00:45:26,200 –> 00:45:28,200
them and to neutralize their effect
because it seems that they have an
2090
00:45:28,200 –> 00:45:28,210
because it seems that they have an
2091
00:45:28,210 –> 00:45:30,660
because it seems that they have an
adverse effect on North Korea because
2092
00:45:30,660 –> 00:45:30,670
adverse effect on North Korea because
2093
00:45:30,670 –> 00:45:33,240
adverse effect on North Korea because
they I think they almost enjoy the fact
2094
00:45:33,240 –> 00:45:33,250
they I think they almost enjoy the fact
2095
00:45:33,250 –> 00:45:34,980
they I think they almost enjoy the fact
that North Korea is a thorn in our side
2096
00:45:34,980 –> 00:45:34,990
that North Korea is a thorn in our side
2097
00:45:34,990 –> 00:45:37,380
that North Korea is a thorn in our side
and I think they they perpetuate a lot
2098
00:45:37,380 –> 00:45:37,390
and I think they they perpetuate a lot
2099
00:45:37,390 –> 00:45:39,450
and I think they they perpetuate a lot
of this stuff it keeps you know we’ll
2100
00:45:39,450 –> 00:45:39,460
of this stuff it keeps you know we’ll
2101
00:45:39,460 –> 00:45:41,450
of this stuff it keeps you know we’ll
get to the moment of climax and and
2102
00:45:41,450 –> 00:45:41,460
get to the moment of climax and and
2103
00:45:41,460 –> 00:45:43,500
get to the moment of climax and and
president Trump will
2104
00:45:43,500 –> 00:45:43,510
president Trump will
2105
00:45:43,510 –> 00:45:46,320
president Trump will
everything’s be going great and Kim Jong
2106
00:45:46,320 –> 00:45:46,330
everything’s be going great and Kim Jong
2107
00:45:46,330 –> 00:45:48,540
everything’s be going great and Kim Jong
Ganga turn back into the dictator he was
2108
00:45:48,540 –> 00:45:48,550
Ganga turn back into the dictator he was
2109
00:45:48,550 –> 00:45:50,370
Ganga turn back into the dictator he was
six months ago and say a lot of crazy
2110
00:45:50,370 –> 00:45:50,380
six months ago and say a lot of crazy
2111
00:45:50,380 –> 00:45:53,040
six months ago and say a lot of crazy
thing call pence names and then the you
2112
00:45:53,040 –> 00:45:53,050
thing call pence names and then the you
2113
00:45:53,050 –> 00:45:54,900
thing call pence names and then the you
know the meetings off and then we got
2114
00:45:54,900 –> 00:45:54,910
know the meetings off and then we got
2115
00:45:54,910 –> 00:45:56,700
know the meetings off and then we got
the meeting back own and it happened
2116
00:45:56,700 –> 00:45:56,710
the meeting back own and it happened
2117
00:45:56,710 –> 00:45:59,070
the meeting back own and it happened
right after he met with president Yi I
2118
00:45:59,070 –> 00:45:59,080
right after he met with president Yi I
2119
00:45:59,080 –> 00:46:01,350
right after he met with president Yi I
know they’re not our friends but if you
2120
00:46:01,350 –> 00:46:01,360
know they’re not our friends but if you
2121
00:46:01,360 –> 00:46:02,940
know they’re not our friends but if you
were worried vies and President Trump
2122
00:46:02,940 –> 00:46:02,950
were worried vies and President Trump
2123
00:46:02,950 –> 00:46:05,070
were worried vies and President Trump
tonight and you said this is what we
2124
00:46:05,070 –> 00:46:05,080
tonight and you said this is what we
2125
00:46:05,080 –> 00:46:06,420
tonight and you said this is what we
need to do with China what would you
2126
00:46:06,420 –> 00:46:06,430
need to do with China what would you
2127
00:46:06,430 –> 00:46:12,450
need to do with China what would you
what would you say say to him well not
2128
00:46:12,450 –> 00:46:12,460
what would you say say to him well not
2129
00:46:12,460 –> 00:46:17,430
what would you say say to him well not
to put you on the spot Brett touch on is
2130
00:46:17,430 –> 00:46:17,440
to put you on the spot Brett touch on is
2131
00:46:17,440 –> 00:46:18,510
to put you on the spot Brett touch on is
actually kind of interesting a lot of
2132
00:46:18,510 –> 00:46:18,520
actually kind of interesting a lot of
2133
00:46:18,520 –> 00:46:21,840
actually kind of interesting a lot of
ways one of my great problems in
2134
00:46:21,840 –> 00:46:21,850
ways one of my great problems in
2135
00:46:21,850 –> 00:46:24,030
ways one of my great problems in
discussing intelligence issues is that
2136
00:46:24,030 –> 00:46:24,040
discussing intelligence issues is that
2137
00:46:24,040 –> 00:46:26,730
discussing intelligence issues is that
the vocabulary is so highly specialized
2138
00:46:26,730 –> 00:46:26,740
the vocabulary is so highly specialized
2139
00:46:26,740 –> 00:46:29,670
the vocabulary is so highly specialized
is such a closed world and you know I
2140
00:46:29,670 –> 00:46:29,680
is such a closed world and you know I
2141
00:46:29,680 –> 00:46:31,950
is such a closed world and you know I
often refer to something that’s talked
2142
00:46:31,950 –> 00:46:31,960
often refer to something that’s talked
2143
00:46:31,960 –> 00:46:32,680
often refer to something that’s talked
about in
2144
00:46:32,680 –> 00:46:32,690
about in
2145
00:46:32,690 –> 00:46:35,890
about in
and so on but in intelligence especially
2146
00:46:35,890 –> 00:46:35,900
and so on but in intelligence especially
2147
00:46:35,900 –> 00:46:38,589
and so on but in intelligence especially
humans and so on I mean you you live in
2148
00:46:38,589 –> 00:46:38,599
humans and so on I mean you you live in
2149
00:46:38,599 –> 00:46:40,450
humans and so on I mean you you live in
the dark deserves the light and so that
2150
00:46:40,450 –> 00:46:40,460
the dark deserves the light and so that
2151
00:46:40,460 –> 00:46:43,210
the dark deserves the light and so that
dark is very dark and it takes years of
2152
00:46:43,210 –> 00:46:43,220
dark is very dark and it takes years of
2153
00:46:43,220 –> 00:46:44,470
dark is very dark and it takes years of
training to get to the point where you
2154
00:46:44,470 –> 00:46:44,480
training to get to the point where you
2155
00:46:44,480 –> 00:46:46,359
training to get to the point where you
even have the vocabulary to discuss it
2156
00:46:46,359 –> 00:46:46,369
even have the vocabulary to discuss it
2157
00:46:46,369 –> 00:46:48,339
even have the vocabulary to discuss it
so I’d be talking to essentially as
2158
00:46:48,339 –> 00:46:48,349
so I’d be talking to essentially as
2159
00:46:48,349 –> 00:46:50,380
so I’d be talking to essentially as
someone who has only limited background
2160
00:46:50,380 –> 00:46:50,390
someone who has only limited background
2161
00:46:50,390 –> 00:46:52,150
someone who has only limited background
in it so I’d be limited as what I could
2162
00:46:52,150 –> 00:46:52,160
in it so I’d be limited as what I could
2163
00:46:52,160 –> 00:46:57,309
in it so I’d be limited as what I could
say so I thought god I think president
2164
00:46:57,309 –> 00:46:57,319
say so I thought god I think president
2165
00:46:57,319 –> 00:46:59,920
say so I thought god I think president
probably I think he’s very intelligent
2166
00:46:59,920 –> 00:46:59,930
probably I think he’s very intelligent
2167
00:46:59,930 –> 00:47:01,780
probably I think he’s very intelligent
man I think he has a you know a good
2168
00:47:01,780 –> 00:47:01,790
man I think he has a you know a good
2169
00:47:01,790 –> 00:47:04,540
man I think he has a you know a good
basic today an understanding of the
2170
00:47:04,540 –> 00:47:04,550
basic today an understanding of the
2171
00:47:04,550 –> 00:47:06,480
basic today an understanding of the
problems in China but I’m not sure that
2172
00:47:06,480 –> 00:47:06,490
problems in China but I’m not sure that
2173
00:47:06,490 –> 00:47:10,240
problems in China but I’m not sure that
that that that he understands the depth
2174
00:47:10,240 –> 00:47:10,250
that that that he understands the depth
2175
00:47:10,250 –> 00:47:12,370
that that that he understands the depth
of the problems and then the depth that
2176
00:47:12,370 –> 00:47:12,380
of the problems and then the depth that
2177
00:47:12,380 –> 00:47:14,859
of the problems and then the depth that
we need to go to to combat the Minar in
2178
00:47:14,859 –> 00:47:14,869
we need to go to to combat the Minar in
2179
00:47:14,869 –> 00:47:16,930
we need to go to to combat the Minar in
I mean just there and everything I mean
2180
00:47:16,930 –> 00:47:16,940
I mean just there and everything I mean
2181
00:47:16,940 –> 00:47:18,670
I mean just there and everything I mean
there militarizing the South China Sea
2182
00:47:18,670 –> 00:47:18,680
there militarizing the South China Sea
2183
00:47:18,680 –> 00:47:20,079
there militarizing the South China Sea
with these islands that they feel
2184
00:47:20,079 –> 00:47:20,089
with these islands that they feel
2185
00:47:20,089 –> 00:47:22,329
with these islands that they feel
they’re putting in weapons and landing
2186
00:47:22,329 –> 00:47:22,339
they’re putting in weapons and landing
2187
00:47:22,339 –> 00:47:23,620
they’re putting in weapons and landing
strips on them and stuff like that that
2188
00:47:23,620 –> 00:47:23,630
strips on them and stuff like that that
2189
00:47:23,630 –> 00:47:26,640
strips on them and stuff like that that
can be used by military Chinese military
2190
00:47:26,640 –> 00:47:26,650
can be used by military Chinese military
2191
00:47:26,650 –> 00:47:31,329
can be used by military Chinese military
excuse me and you’ve seen them in cyber
2192
00:47:31,329 –> 00:47:31,339
excuse me and you’ve seen them in cyber
2193
00:47:31,339 –> 00:47:34,150
excuse me and you’ve seen them in cyber
warfare just go ballistic I mean just
2194
00:47:34,150 –> 00:47:34,160
warfare just go ballistic I mean just
2195
00:47:34,160 –> 00:47:35,349
warfare just go ballistic I mean just
for example I’m sure most of your
2196
00:47:35,349 –> 00:47:35,359
for example I’m sure most of your
2197
00:47:35,359 –> 00:47:37,270
for example I’m sure most of your
listeners aren’t aware the office of
2198
00:47:37,270 –> 00:47:37,280
listeners aren’t aware the office of
2199
00:47:37,280 –> 00:47:39,819
listeners aren’t aware the office of
personal management OPM this is public
2200
00:47:39,819 –> 00:47:39,829
personal management OPM this is public
2201
00:47:39,829 –> 00:47:42,040
personal management OPM this is public
information got hacked but I’m supposed
2202
00:47:42,040 –> 00:47:42,050
information got hacked but I’m supposed
2203
00:47:42,050 –> 00:47:43,690
information got hacked but I’m supposed
to be everyone says it’s the Chinese
2204
00:47:43,690 –> 00:47:43,700
to be everyone says it’s the Chinese
2205
00:47:43,700 –> 00:47:45,550
to be everyone says it’s the Chinese
again no insight information I don’t
2206
00:47:45,550 –> 00:47:45,560
again no insight information I don’t
2207
00:47:45,560 –> 00:47:46,359
again no insight information I don’t
know
2208
00:47:46,359 –> 00:47:46,369
know
2209
00:47:46,369 –> 00:47:48,579
know
but then that information has been used
2210
00:47:48,579 –> 00:47:48,589
but then that information has been used
2211
00:47:48,589 –> 00:47:52,120
but then that information has been used
and for example I myself was was because
2212
00:47:52,120 –> 00:47:52,130
and for example I myself was was because
2213
00:47:52,130 –> 00:47:54,400
and for example I myself was was because
I was retired CIA I’m getting death
2214
00:47:54,400 –> 00:47:54,410
I was retired CIA I’m getting death
2215
00:47:54,410 –> 00:47:56,140
I was retired CIA I’m getting death
threats was probably somebody that the
2216
00:47:56,140 –> 00:47:56,150
threats was probably somebody that the
2217
00:47:56,150 –> 00:47:58,359
threats was probably somebody that the
Chinese probably gave it to since then
2218
00:47:58,359 –> 00:47:58,369
Chinese probably gave it to since then
2219
00:47:58,369 –> 00:47:59,710
Chinese probably gave it to since then
the Chinese have been using the
2220
00:47:59,710 –> 00:47:59,720
the Chinese have been using the
2221
00:47:59,720 –> 00:48:01,599
the Chinese have been using the
information they got out of that opium
2222
00:48:01,599 –> 00:48:01,609
information they got out of that opium
2223
00:48:01,609 –> 00:48:04,210
information they got out of that opium
act to go after all sorts of former and
2224
00:48:04,210 –> 00:48:04,220
act to go after all sorts of former and
2225
00:48:04,220 –> 00:48:07,720
act to go after all sorts of former and
and possibly even current I don’t and
2226
00:48:07,720 –> 00:48:07,730
and possibly even current I don’t and
2227
00:48:07,730 –> 00:48:09,250
and possibly even current I don’t and
people that were hacked from other
2228
00:48:09,250 –> 00:48:09,260
people that were hacked from other
2229
00:48:09,260 –> 00:48:11,290
people that were hacked from other
federal agencies and you’re getting
2230
00:48:11,290 –> 00:48:11,300
federal agencies and you’re getting
2231
00:48:11,300 –> 00:48:13,630
federal agencies and you’re getting
weird phone calls in Chinese and all
2232
00:48:13,630 –> 00:48:13,640
weird phone calls in Chinese and all
2233
00:48:13,640 –> 00:48:15,339
weird phone calls in Chinese and all
sorts of stuffs I mean it’s it’s been an
2234
00:48:15,339 –> 00:48:15,349
sorts of stuffs I mean it’s it’s been an
2235
00:48:15,349 –> 00:48:17,140
sorts of stuffs I mean it’s it’s been an
ongoing thing that they’ve used on many
2236
00:48:17,140 –> 00:48:17,150
ongoing thing that they’ve used on many
2237
00:48:17,150 –> 00:48:19,240
ongoing thing that they’ve used on many
levels and again something else most
2238
00:48:19,240 –> 00:48:19,250
levels and again something else most
2239
00:48:19,250 –> 00:48:21,160
levels and again something else most
people aren’t aware of a lot of people
2240
00:48:21,160 –> 00:48:21,170
people aren’t aware of a lot of people
2241
00:48:21,170 –> 00:48:24,099
people aren’t aware of a lot of people
talk about bitcoins the Chinese run bit
2242
00:48:24,099 –> 00:48:24,109
talk about bitcoins the Chinese run bit
2243
00:48:24,109 –> 00:48:26,230
talk about bitcoins the Chinese run bit
points most bitcoins are produced in
2244
00:48:26,230 –> 00:48:26,240
points most bitcoins are produced in
2245
00:48:26,240 –> 00:48:28,300
points most bitcoins are produced in
China very few people are aware of that
2246
00:48:28,300 –> 00:48:28,310
China very few people are aware of that
2247
00:48:28,310 –> 00:48:30,640
China very few people are aware of that
basically the limit on producing
2248
00:48:30,640 –> 00:48:30,650
basically the limit on producing
2249
00:48:30,650 –> 00:48:33,400
basically the limit on producing
bitcoins is it’s a program that gets
2250
00:48:33,400 –> 00:48:33,410
bitcoins is it’s a program that gets
2251
00:48:33,410 –> 00:48:34,930
bitcoins is it’s a program that gets
progressively more difficult every
2252
00:48:34,930 –> 00:48:34,940
progressively more difficult every
2253
00:48:34,940 –> 00:48:37,480
progressively more difficult every
single time you you get a Bitcoin so the
2254
00:48:37,480 –> 00:48:37,490
single time you you get a Bitcoin so the
2255
00:48:37,490 –> 00:48:39,609
single time you you get a Bitcoin so the
limit is processors huge numbers of
2256
00:48:39,609 –> 00:48:39,619
limit is processors huge numbers of
2257
00:48:39,619 –> 00:48:42,040
limit is processors huge numbers of
processors huge numbers of processors
2258
00:48:42,040 –> 00:48:42,050
processors huge numbers of processors
2259
00:48:42,050 –> 00:48:44,230
processors huge numbers of processors
Sokolow or electricity so what the
2260
00:48:44,230 –> 00:48:44,240
Sokolow or electricity so what the
2261
00:48:44,240 –> 00:48:45,009
Sokolow or electricity so what the
Chinese of
2262
00:48:45,009 –> 00:48:45,019
Chinese of
2263
00:48:45,019 –> 00:48:47,199
Chinese of
is not they just go they don’t care how
2264
00:48:47,199 –> 00:48:47,209
is not they just go they don’t care how
2265
00:48:47,209 –> 00:48:49,389
is not they just go they don’t care how
much electricity it uses they dedicated
2266
00:48:49,389 –> 00:48:49,399
much electricity it uses they dedicated
2267
00:48:49,399 –> 00:48:50,889
much electricity it uses they dedicated
to it and so they produced the vast
2268
00:48:50,889 –> 00:48:50,899
to it and so they produced the vast
2269
00:48:50,899 –> 00:48:53,079
to it and so they produced the vast
majority of Bitcoin so they’re looking
2270
00:48:53,079 –> 00:48:53,089
majority of Bitcoin so they’re looking
2271
00:48:53,089 –> 00:48:55,689
majority of Bitcoin so they’re looking
for all sorts of economic alternatives
2272
00:48:55,689 –> 00:48:55,699
for all sorts of economic alternatives
2273
00:48:55,699 –> 00:48:59,319
for all sorts of economic alternatives
to for example the United States banking
2274
00:48:59,319 –> 00:48:59,329
to for example the United States banking
2275
00:48:59,329 –> 00:49:01,299
to for example the United States banking
system and Clearing House system and so
2276
00:49:01,299 –> 00:49:01,309
system and Clearing House system and so
2277
00:49:01,309 –> 00:49:03,309
system and Clearing House system and so
on that so they can create a parallel
2278
00:49:03,309 –> 00:49:03,319
on that so they can create a parallel
2279
00:49:03,319 –> 00:49:05,109
on that so they can create a parallel
system because what does the United
2280
00:49:05,109 –> 00:49:05,119
system because what does the United
2281
00:49:05,119 –> 00:49:08,439
system because what does the United
States use when it argoes a country or
2282
00:49:08,439 –> 00:49:08,449
States use when it argoes a country or
2283
00:49:08,449 –> 00:49:11,529
States use when it argoes a country or
does something some sort of a limit on a
2284
00:49:11,529 –> 00:49:11,539
does something some sort of a limit on a
2285
00:49:11,539 –> 00:49:14,199
does something some sort of a limit on a
country’s economics it uses the banking
2286
00:49:14,199 –> 00:49:14,209
country’s economics it uses the banking
2287
00:49:14,209 –> 00:49:16,299
country’s economics it uses the banking
system so for all of Europe for example
2288
00:49:16,299 –> 00:49:16,309
system so for all of Europe for example
2289
00:49:16,309 –> 00:49:19,509
system so for all of Europe for example
is all part of that system so any like
2290
00:49:19,509 –> 00:49:19,519
is all part of that system so any like
2291
00:49:19,519 –> 00:49:21,279
is all part of that system so any like
Iran when it when they’ve had that
2292
00:49:21,279 –> 00:49:21,289
Iran when it when they’ve had that
2293
00:49:21,289 –> 00:49:22,539
Iran when it when they’ve had that
trouble is because they were doing a lot
2294
00:49:22,539 –> 00:49:22,549
trouble is because they were doing a lot
2295
00:49:22,549 –> 00:49:24,189
trouble is because they were doing a lot
of stuff back through Europe Europe
2296
00:49:24,189 –> 00:49:24,199
of stuff back through Europe Europe
2297
00:49:24,199 –> 00:49:25,870
of stuff back through Europe Europe
being part of the US banking system then
2298
00:49:25,870 –> 00:49:25,880
being part of the US banking system then
2299
00:49:25,880 –> 00:49:27,459
being part of the US banking system then
we were able to use that to limit them
2300
00:49:27,459 –> 00:49:27,469
we were able to use that to limit them
2301
00:49:27,469 –> 00:49:29,739
we were able to use that to limit them
and hold their money and impound things
2302
00:49:29,739 –> 00:49:29,749
and hold their money and impound things
2303
00:49:29,749 –> 00:49:32,169
and hold their money and impound things
to song so China is working very hard to
2304
00:49:32,169 –> 00:49:32,179
to song so China is working very hard to
2305
00:49:32,179 –> 00:49:34,329
to song so China is working very hard to
create an alternative system if they’re
2306
00:49:34,329 –> 00:49:34,339
create an alternative system if they’re
2307
00:49:34,339 –> 00:49:37,569
create an alternative system if they’re
successful on a worldwide basis that’s a
2308
00:49:37,569 –> 00:49:37,579
successful on a worldwide basis that’s a
2309
00:49:37,579 –> 00:49:38,199
successful on a worldwide basis that’s a
real problem
2310
00:49:38,199 –> 00:49:38,209
real problem
2311
00:49:38,209 –> 00:49:40,569
real problem
now how deep does the understanding go
2312
00:49:40,569 –> 00:49:40,579
now how deep does the understanding go
2313
00:49:40,579 –> 00:49:42,130
now how deep does the understanding go
on the hill of those issues how deep
2314
00:49:42,130 –> 00:49:42,140
on the hill of those issues how deep
2315
00:49:42,140 –> 00:49:43,389
on the hill of those issues how deep
does it go on the White House on those
2316
00:49:43,389 –> 00:49:43,399
does it go on the White House on those
2317
00:49:43,399 –> 00:49:45,849
does it go on the White House on those
issues I don’t think it was very deep at
2318
00:49:45,849 –> 00:49:45,859
issues I don’t think it was very deep at
2319
00:49:45,859 –> 00:49:48,489
issues I don’t think it was very deep at
all previously however as we talked
2320
00:49:48,489 –> 00:49:48,499
all previously however as we talked
2321
00:49:48,499 –> 00:49:50,439
all previously however as we talked
about earlier in this interview now he’s
2322
00:49:50,439 –> 00:49:50,449
about earlier in this interview now he’s
2323
00:49:50,449 –> 00:49:52,839
about earlier in this interview now he’s
got to get a team together and for
2324
00:49:52,839 –> 00:49:52,849
got to get a team together and for
2325
00:49:52,849 –> 00:49:54,429
got to get a team together and for
example French flights those people who
2326
00:49:54,429 –> 00:49:54,439
example French flights those people who
2327
00:49:54,439 –> 00:49:56,289
example French flights those people who
know all of this stuff and ready and
2328
00:49:56,289 –> 00:49:56,299
know all of this stuff and ready and
2329
00:49:56,299 –> 00:49:57,909
know all of this stuff and ready and
will be bringing these sorts of people
2330
00:49:57,909 –> 00:49:57,919
will be bringing these sorts of people
2331
00:49:57,919 –> 00:49:59,829
will be bringing these sorts of people
in now some of those people have existed
2332
00:49:59,829 –> 00:49:59,839
in now some of those people have existed
2333
00:49:59,839 –> 00:50:02,759
in now some of those people have existed
but they’ve been targets of political
2334
00:50:02,759 –> 00:50:02,769
but they’ve been targets of political
2335
00:50:02,769 –> 00:50:05,079
but they’ve been targets of political
you know attacks and so on in the White
2336
00:50:05,079 –> 00:50:05,089
you know attacks and so on in the White
2337
00:50:05,089 –> 00:50:08,559
you know attacks and so on in the White
House so I think with this stability now
2338
00:50:08,559 –> 00:50:08,569
House so I think with this stability now
2339
00:50:08,569 –> 00:50:10,269
House so I think with this stability now
coming with the team being in place
2340
00:50:10,269 –> 00:50:10,279
coming with the team being in place
2341
00:50:10,279 –> 00:50:12,539
coming with the team being in place
you’re gonna see that in house
2342
00:50:12,539 –> 00:50:12,549
you’re gonna see that in house
2343
00:50:12,549 –> 00:50:14,259
you’re gonna see that in house
understanding and the depth of
2344
00:50:14,259 –> 00:50:14,269
understanding and the depth of
2345
00:50:14,269 –> 00:50:15,849
understanding and the depth of
understanding required to combat the
2346
00:50:15,849 –> 00:50:15,859
understanding required to combat the
2347
00:50:15,859 –> 00:50:18,099
understanding required to combat the
Chinese across the board because you
2348
00:50:18,099 –> 00:50:18,109
Chinese across the board because you
2349
00:50:18,109 –> 00:50:20,349
Chinese across the board because you
have to fight him on every every beach
2350
00:50:20,349 –> 00:50:20,359
have to fight him on every every beach
2351
00:50:20,359 –> 00:50:22,179
have to fight him on every every beach
you know every beach it you can’t just
2352
00:50:22,179 –> 00:50:22,189
you know every beach it you can’t just
2353
00:50:22,189 –> 00:50:24,370
you know every beach it you can’t just
you know attack bitcoins or attack this
2354
00:50:24,370 –> 00:50:24,380
you know attack bitcoins or attack this
2355
00:50:24,380 –> 00:50:28,329
you know attack bitcoins or attack this
it has to be a comprehensive attack back
2356
00:50:28,329 –> 00:50:28,339
it has to be a comprehensive attack back
2357
00:50:28,339 –> 00:50:29,979
it has to be a comprehensive attack back
against them and these things were there
2358
00:50:29,979 –> 00:50:29,989
against them and these things were there
2359
00:50:29,989 –> 00:50:31,629
against them and these things were there
they feel free we look at the audacity
2360
00:50:31,629 –> 00:50:31,639
they feel free we look at the audacity
2361
00:50:31,639 –> 00:50:35,229
they feel free we look at the audacity
they feel free to hack OPM and what do
2362
00:50:35,229 –> 00:50:35,239
they feel free to hack OPM and what do
2363
00:50:35,239 –> 00:50:38,620
they feel free to hack OPM and what do
we do nothing they start targeting our
2364
00:50:38,620 –> 00:50:38,630
we do nothing they start targeting our
2365
00:50:38,630 –> 00:50:40,269
we do nothing they start targeting our
people then like I said I got death row
2366
00:50:40,269 –> 00:50:40,279
people then like I said I got death row
2367
00:50:40,279 –> 00:50:42,819
people then like I said I got death row
out of it well you know like a year and
2368
00:50:42,819 –> 00:50:42,829
out of it well you know like a year and
2369
00:50:42,829 –> 00:50:44,439
out of it well you know like a year and
a half of it and what did they don’t
2370
00:50:44,439 –> 00:50:44,449
a half of it and what did they don’t
2371
00:50:44,449 –> 00:50:44,829
a half of it and what did they don’t
care
2372
00:50:44,829 –> 00:50:44,839
care
2373
00:50:44,839 –> 00:50:46,929
care
nobody does anything and I mean I
2374
00:50:46,929 –> 00:50:46,939
nobody does anything and I mean I
2375
00:50:46,939 –> 00:50:48,549
nobody does anything and I mean I
understand I’m a retired guy now so
2376
00:50:48,549 –> 00:50:48,559
understand I’m a retired guy now so
2377
00:50:48,559 –> 00:50:52,539
understand I’m a retired guy now so
nobody nobody cares but still and on in
2378
00:50:52,539 –> 00:50:52,549
nobody nobody cares but still and on in
2379
00:50:52,549 –> 00:50:54,489
nobody nobody cares but still and on in
there there should be some you know
2380
00:50:54,489 –> 00:50:54,499
there there should be some you know
2381
00:50:54,499 –> 00:50:57,160
there there should be some you know
cognizance of the audacity that they’re
2382
00:50:57,160 –> 00:50:57,170
cognizance of the audacity that they’re
2383
00:50:57,170 –> 00:50:58,599
cognizance of the audacity that they’re
willing to the level they’re willing to
2384
00:50:58,599 –> 00:50:58,609
willing to the level they’re willing to
2385
00:50:58,609 –> 00:51:00,729
willing to the level they’re willing to
go to this the audacity that’s shown by
2386
00:51:00,729 –> 00:51:00,739
go to this the audacity that’s shown by
2387
00:51:00,739 –> 00:51:02,829
go to this the audacity that’s shown by
their activities and and something needs
2388
00:51:02,829 –> 00:51:02,839
their activities and and something needs
2389
00:51:02,839 –> 00:51:04,529
their activities and and something needs
to be done you can’t just let it go
2390
00:51:04,529 –> 00:51:04,539
to be done you can’t just let it go
2391
00:51:04,539 –> 00:51:07,749
to be done you can’t just let it go
unchecked but again there’s the
2392
00:51:07,749 –> 00:51:07,759
unchecked but again there’s the
2393
00:51:07,759 –> 00:51:10,449
unchecked but again there’s the
political will to fight back on these
2394
00:51:10,449 –> 00:51:10,459
political will to fight back on these
2395
00:51:10,459 –> 00:51:13,299
political will to fight back on these
things so we find out we find ourselves
2396
00:51:13,299 –> 00:51:13,309
things so we find out we find ourselves
2397
00:51:13,309 –> 00:51:15,640
things so we find out we find ourselves
in this in this this kind of situation
2398
00:51:15,640 –> 00:51:15,650
in this in this this kind of situation
2399
00:51:15,650 –> 00:51:17,319
in this in this this kind of situation
we’re being beat up over and over and
2400
00:51:17,319 –> 00:51:17,329
we’re being beat up over and over and
2401
00:51:17,329 –> 00:51:21,359
we’re being beat up over and over and
over I think well without divulging
2402
00:51:21,359 –> 00:51:21,369
over I think well without divulging
2403
00:51:21,369 –> 00:51:23,769
over I think well without divulging
where the Lindbergh baby is I think you
2404
00:51:23,769 –> 00:51:23,779
where the Lindbergh baby is I think you
2405
00:51:23,779 –> 00:51:27,009
where the Lindbergh baby is I think you
did quite well their bread we we total
2406
00:51:27,009 –> 00:51:27,019
did quite well their bread we we total
2407
00:51:27,019 –> 00:51:28,719
did quite well their bread we we total
breakup at all you can say whatever you
2408
00:51:28,719 –> 00:51:28,729
breakup at all you can say whatever you
2409
00:51:28,729 –> 00:51:30,130
breakup at all you can say whatever you
want to say what can you say don’t worry
2410
00:51:30,130 –> 00:51:30,140
want to say what can you say don’t worry
2411
00:51:30,140 –> 00:51:31,959
want to say what can you say don’t worry
about it just tell us what you can and
2412
00:51:31,959 –> 00:51:31,969
about it just tell us what you can and
2413
00:51:31,969 –> 00:51:33,429
about it just tell us what you can and
we’re glad that he did that I do have a
2414
00:51:33,429 –> 00:51:33,439
we’re glad that he did that I do have a
2415
00:51:33,439 –> 00:51:35,109
we’re glad that he did that I do have a
question for you that’s related to this
2416
00:51:35,109 –> 00:51:35,119
question for you that’s related to this
2417
00:51:35,119 –> 00:51:37,449
question for you that’s related to this
little bit because it it segues me into
2418
00:51:37,449 –> 00:51:37,459
little bit because it it segues me into
2419
00:51:37,459 –> 00:51:41,919
little bit because it it segues me into
the next area of this how is the CIA
2420
00:51:41,919 –> 00:51:41,929
the next area of this how is the CIA
2421
00:51:41,929 –> 00:51:44,199
the next area of this how is the CIA
changed through the years since you’ve
2422
00:51:44,199 –> 00:51:44,209
changed through the years since you’ve
2423
00:51:44,209 –> 00:51:47,339
changed through the years since you’ve
been from the time you served till now
2424
00:51:47,339 –> 00:51:47,349
been from the time you served till now
2425
00:51:47,349 –> 00:51:50,769
been from the time you served till now
you know I know that administration’s
2426
00:51:50,769 –> 00:51:50,779
you know I know that administration’s
2427
00:51:50,779 –> 00:51:52,089
you know I know that administration’s
come and go in Washington but the
2428
00:51:52,089 –> 00:51:52,099
come and go in Washington but the
2429
00:51:52,099 –> 00:51:53,589
come and go in Washington but the
Intelligence Agency stays the same
2430
00:51:53,589 –> 00:51:53,599
Intelligence Agency stays the same
2431
00:51:53,599 –> 00:51:56,620
Intelligence Agency stays the same
basically the personnel for the most
2432
00:51:56,620 –> 00:51:56,630
basically the personnel for the most
2433
00:51:56,630 –> 00:51:58,419
basically the personnel for the most
part I know that people come and go with
2434
00:51:58,419 –> 00:51:58,429
part I know that people come and go with
2435
00:51:58,429 –> 00:52:01,390
part I know that people come and go with
presidents and so forth but from where
2436
00:52:01,390 –> 00:52:01,400
presidents and so forth but from where
2437
00:52:01,400 –> 00:52:03,279
presidents and so forth but from where
you fit and your experiences in the
2438
00:52:03,279 –> 00:52:03,289
you fit and your experiences in the
2439
00:52:03,289 –> 00:52:05,890
you fit and your experiences in the
agency how is it evolved from then to
2440
00:52:05,890 –> 00:52:05,900
agency how is it evolved from then to
2441
00:52:05,900 –> 00:52:08,829
agency how is it evolved from then to
now and look people that are listening I
2442
00:52:08,829 –> 00:52:08,839
now and look people that are listening I
2443
00:52:08,839 –> 00:52:11,979
now and look people that are listening I
need to understand these men women put
2444
00:52:11,979 –> 00:52:11,989
need to understand these men women put
2445
00:52:11,989 –> 00:52:13,989
need to understand these men women put
their lives and their families lives on
2446
00:52:13,989 –> 00:52:13,999
their lives and their families lives on
2447
00:52:13,999 –> 00:52:16,689
their lives and their families lives on
the line every day so that we can be
2448
00:52:16,689 –> 00:52:16,699
the line every day so that we can be
2449
00:52:16,699 –> 00:52:18,880
the line every day so that we can be
safe this intelligence is not something
2450
00:52:18,880 –> 00:52:18,890
safe this intelligence is not something
2451
00:52:18,890 –> 00:52:20,469
safe this intelligence is not something
that’s monopoly this is not some game
2452
00:52:20,469 –> 00:52:20,479
that’s monopoly this is not some game
2453
00:52:20,479 –> 00:52:22,029
that’s monopoly this is not some game
that they’re playing this is for the
2454
00:52:22,029 –> 00:52:22,039
that they’re playing this is for the
2455
00:52:22,039 –> 00:52:24,609
that they’re playing this is for the
security of the United States of America
2456
00:52:24,609 –> 00:52:24,619
security of the United States of America
2457
00:52:24,619 –> 00:52:26,410
security of the United States of America
and I’m sure the dangers have been just
2458
00:52:26,410 –> 00:52:26,420
and I’m sure the dangers have been just
2459
00:52:26,420 –> 00:52:27,819
and I’m sure the dangers have been just
as real from the beginning as they are
2460
00:52:27,819 –> 00:52:27,829
as real from the beginning as they are
2461
00:52:27,829 –> 00:52:30,189
as real from the beginning as they are
now perhaps speak to that a little bit
2462
00:52:30,189 –> 00:52:30,199
now perhaps speak to that a little bit
2463
00:52:30,199 –> 00:52:32,169
now perhaps speak to that a little bit
how things have changed in the agency
2464
00:52:32,169 –> 00:52:32,179
how things have changed in the agency
2465
00:52:32,179 –> 00:52:34,599
how things have changed in the agency
and I want you to also make speak to the
2466
00:52:34,599 –> 00:52:34,609
and I want you to also make speak to the
2467
00:52:34,609 –> 00:52:37,719
and I want you to also make speak to the
fact that I know that after 9/11 one of
2468
00:52:37,719 –> 00:52:37,729
fact that I know that after 9/11 one of
2469
00:52:37,729 –> 00:52:39,699
fact that I know that after 9/11 one of
the biggest complaints and one of the
2470
00:52:39,699 –> 00:52:39,709
the biggest complaints and one of the
2471
00:52:39,709 –> 00:52:41,559
the biggest complaints and one of the
biggest things that came out after 9/11
2472
00:52:41,559 –> 00:52:41,569
biggest things that came out after 9/11
2473
00:52:41,569 –> 00:52:43,029
biggest things that came out after 9/11
that the agencies were not sharing
2474
00:52:43,029 –> 00:52:43,039
that the agencies were not sharing
2475
00:52:43,039 –> 00:52:45,400
that the agencies were not sharing
information there was a lot of mawkish
2476
00:52:45,400 –> 00:52:45,410
information there was a lot of mawkish
2477
00:52:45,410 –> 00:52:47,140
information there was a lot of mawkish
between the agencies being able to share
2478
00:52:47,140 –> 00:52:47,150
between the agencies being able to share
2479
00:52:47,150 –> 00:52:49,870
between the agencies being able to share
what they had with each other and speak
2480
00:52:49,870 –> 00:52:49,880
what they had with each other and speak
2481
00:52:49,880 –> 00:52:51,279
what they had with each other and speak
to how that’s changed as well how the
2482
00:52:51,279 –> 00:52:51,289
to how that’s changed as well how the
2483
00:52:51,289 –> 00:52:54,239
to how that’s changed as well how the
sharing of information has also changed
2484
00:52:54,239 –> 00:52:54,249
sharing of information has also changed
2485
00:52:54,249 –> 00:52:57,759
sharing of information has also changed
yeah there’s I would I would defer I
2486
00:52:57,759 –> 00:52:57,769
yeah there’s I would I would defer I
2487
00:52:57,769 –> 00:53:00,370
yeah there’s I would I would defer I
think we had an initial period as as
2488
00:53:00,370 –> 00:53:00,380
think we had an initial period as as
2489
00:53:00,380 –> 00:53:03,309
think we had an initial period as as
probably everyone is mostly where the
2490
00:53:03,309 –> 00:53:03,319
probably everyone is mostly where the
2491
00:53:03,319 –> 00:53:06,020
probably everyone is mostly where the
CAA was the offspring of OS
2492
00:53:06,020 –> 00:53:06,030
CAA was the offspring of OS
2493
00:53:06,030 –> 00:53:08,390
CAA was the offspring of OS
during World War two many lessons we
2494
00:53:08,390 –> 00:53:08,400
during World War two many lessons we
2495
00:53:08,400 –> 00:53:10,520
during World War two many lessons we
didn’t have an intelligence agency prior
2496
00:53:10,520 –> 00:53:10,530
didn’t have an intelligence agency prior
2497
00:53:10,530 –> 00:53:13,880
didn’t have an intelligence agency prior
to World War two and so many of the
2498
00:53:13,880 –> 00:53:13,890
to World War two and so many of the
2499
00:53:13,890 –> 00:53:16,390
to World War two and so many of the
lessons we learned were hard one through
2500
00:53:16,390 –> 00:53:16,400
lessons we learned were hard one through
2501
00:53:16,400 –> 00:53:19,160
lessons we learned were hard one through
blood sweat and tears we learned during
2502
00:53:19,160 –> 00:53:19,170
blood sweat and tears we learned during
2503
00:53:19,170 –> 00:53:22,550
blood sweat and tears we learned during
the OSS period which you know hats off
2504
00:53:22,550 –> 00:53:22,560
the OSS period which you know hats off
2505
00:53:22,560 –> 00:53:24,590
the OSS period which you know hats off
to those very brave people and that’s
2506
00:53:24,590 –> 00:53:24,600
to those very brave people and that’s
2507
00:53:24,600 –> 00:53:26,750
to those very brave people and that’s
where some of the real sacrifices were
2508
00:53:26,750 –> 00:53:26,760
where some of the real sacrifices were
2509
00:53:26,760 –> 00:53:30,530
where some of the real sacrifices were
made not none of us paid the prices that
2510
00:53:30,530 –> 00:53:30,540
made not none of us paid the prices that
2511
00:53:30,540 –> 00:53:33,350
made not none of us paid the prices that
those people paid and then a few years
2512
00:53:33,350 –> 00:53:33,360
those people paid and then a few years
2513
00:53:33,360 –> 00:53:36,040
those people paid and then a few years
following World War two the CIA was was
2514
00:53:36,040 –> 00:53:36,050
following World War two the CIA was was
2515
00:53:36,050 –> 00:53:38,510
following World War two the CIA was was
created as a civilian organization
2516
00:53:38,510 –> 00:53:38,520
created as a civilian organization
2517
00:53:38,520 –> 00:53:40,940
created as a civilian organization
foreign intelligence and the logic was
2518
00:53:40,940 –> 00:53:40,950
foreign intelligence and the logic was
2519
00:53:40,950 –> 00:53:43,160
foreign intelligence and the logic was
that what we wanted was to make sure
2520
00:53:43,160 –> 00:53:43,170
that what we wanted was to make sure
2521
00:53:43,170 –> 00:53:44,420
that what we wanted was to make sure
that there wasn’t too much power
2522
00:53:44,420 –> 00:53:44,430
that there wasn’t too much power
2523
00:53:44,430 –> 00:53:46,760
that there wasn’t too much power
concentrated in one place as you know
2524
00:53:46,760 –> 00:53:46,770
concentrated in one place as you know
2525
00:53:46,770 –> 00:53:49,610
concentrated in one place as you know
the FBI was really hot to get the CIA
2526
00:53:49,610 –> 00:53:49,620
the FBI was really hot to get the CIA
2527
00:53:49,620 –> 00:53:52,490
the FBI was really hot to get the CIA
sure that’s part of the FBI the military
2528
00:53:52,490 –> 00:53:52,500
sure that’s part of the FBI the military
2529
00:53:52,500 –> 00:53:54,260
sure that’s part of the FBI the military
wanted it to because that’s where it had
2530
00:53:54,260 –> 00:53:54,270
wanted it to because that’s where it had
2531
00:53:54,270 –> 00:53:58,550
wanted it to because that’s where it had
come from out of OSS and perhaps most
2532
00:53:58,550 –> 00:53:58,560
come from out of OSS and perhaps most
2533
00:53:58,560 –> 00:54:00,680
come from out of OSS and perhaps most
people don’t realize actually Army
2534
00:54:00,680 –> 00:54:00,690
people don’t realize actually Army
2535
00:54:00,690 –> 00:54:03,440
people don’t realize actually Army
Special Forces and the CIA are sister
2536
00:54:03,440 –> 00:54:03,450
Special Forces and the CIA are sister
2537
00:54:03,450 –> 00:54:05,780
Special Forces and the CIA are sister
organizations when the OSS was split it
2538
00:54:05,780 –> 00:54:05,790
organizations when the OSS was split it
2539
00:54:05,790 –> 00:54:08,600
organizations when the OSS was split it
was split in two the wet operations if
2540
00:54:08,600 –> 00:54:08,610
was split in two the wet operations if
2541
00:54:08,610 –> 00:54:11,600
was split in two the wet operations if
you will stayed with Army Special Forces
2542
00:54:11,600 –> 00:54:11,610
you will stayed with Army Special Forces
2543
00:54:11,610 –> 00:54:14,030
you will stayed with Army Special Forces
which then became Special Forces for all
2544
00:54:14,030 –> 00:54:14,040
which then became Special Forces for all
2545
00:54:14,040 –> 00:54:17,440
which then became Special Forces for all
the branch SEALs and Delta and so on and
2546
00:54:17,440 –> 00:54:17,450
the branch SEALs and Delta and so on and
2547
00:54:17,450 –> 00:54:19,970
the branch SEALs and Delta and so on and
then the the actual intelligence
2548
00:54:19,970 –> 00:54:19,980
then the the actual intelligence
2549
00:54:19,980 –> 00:54:22,340
then the the actual intelligence
collection and the recruiting of assets
2550
00:54:22,340 –> 00:54:22,350
collection and the recruiting of assets
2551
00:54:22,350 –> 00:54:24,470
collection and the recruiting of assets
of reporting sources humans human
2552
00:54:24,470 –> 00:54:24,480
of reporting sources humans human
2553
00:54:24,480 –> 00:54:26,330
of reporting sources humans human
intelligence then went all over to the
2554
00:54:26,330 –> 00:54:26,340
intelligence then went all over to the
2555
00:54:26,340 –> 00:54:30,890
intelligence then went all over to the
CIA and information is power so that’s
2556
00:54:30,890 –> 00:54:30,900
CIA and information is power so that’s
2557
00:54:30,900 –> 00:54:32,450
CIA and information is power so that’s
as I said the president at the time
2558
00:54:32,450 –> 00:54:32,460
as I said the president at the time
2559
00:54:32,460 –> 00:54:34,550
as I said the president at the time
Truman didn’t want to concentrate too
2560
00:54:34,550 –> 00:54:34,560
Truman didn’t want to concentrate too
2561
00:54:34,560 –> 00:54:37,190
Truman didn’t want to concentrate too
much power in one hand in one group of
2562
00:54:37,190 –> 00:54:37,200
much power in one hand in one group of
2563
00:54:37,200 –> 00:54:39,710
much power in one hand in one group of
hands so we handed the military we had
2564
00:54:39,710 –> 00:54:39,720
hands so we handed the military we had
2565
00:54:39,720 –> 00:54:42,020
hands so we handed the military we had
the FBI and had the CIA all a separate
2566
00:54:42,020 –> 00:54:42,030
the FBI and had the CIA all a separate
2567
00:54:42,030 –> 00:54:43,820
the FBI and had the CIA all a separate
organization separate kingdoms if you
2568
00:54:43,820 –> 00:54:43,830
organization separate kingdoms if you
2569
00:54:43,830 –> 00:54:45,740
organization separate kingdoms if you
will now I’ll come back to that because
2570
00:54:45,740 –> 00:54:45,750
will now I’ll come back to that because
2571
00:54:45,750 –> 00:54:48,110
will now I’ll come back to that because
of the the wisdom in it but since then
2572
00:54:48,110 –> 00:54:48,120
of the the wisdom in it but since then
2573
00:54:48,120 –> 00:54:50,330
of the the wisdom in it but since then
basically you had a period where the CIA
2574
00:54:50,330 –> 00:54:50,340
basically you had a period where the CIA
2575
00:54:50,340 –> 00:54:52,580
basically you had a period where the CIA
continued to grow and develop expertise
2576
00:54:52,580 –> 00:54:52,590
continued to grow and develop expertise
2577
00:54:52,590 –> 00:54:55,160
continued to grow and develop expertise
and so on and I would say that period
2578
00:54:55,160 –> 00:54:55,170
and so on and I would say that period
2579
00:54:55,170 –> 00:54:58,250
and so on and I would say that period
continued at least up until Jimmy Carter
2580
00:54:58,250 –> 00:54:58,260
continued at least up until Jimmy Carter
2581
00:54:58,260 –> 00:54:59,900
continued at least up until Jimmy Carter
under Jimmy Carter yet Admiral turned
2582
00:54:59,900 –> 00:54:59,910
under Jimmy Carter yet Admiral turned
2583
00:54:59,910 –> 00:55:01,970
under Jimmy Carter yet Admiral turned
men to do a riff which basically means
2584
00:55:01,970 –> 00:55:01,980
men to do a riff which basically means
2585
00:55:01,980 –> 00:55:04,160
men to do a riff which basically means
you can come in and fire people so he he
2586
00:55:04,160 –> 00:55:04,170
you can come in and fire people so he he
2587
00:55:04,170 –> 00:55:06,080
you can come in and fire people so he he
went in looked at the CIA didn’t like
2588
00:55:06,080 –> 00:55:06,090
went in looked at the CIA didn’t like
2589
00:55:06,090 –> 00:55:09,590
went in looked at the CIA didn’t like
what was there and philosophically the
2590
00:55:09,590 –> 00:55:09,600
what was there and philosophically the
2591
00:55:09,600 –> 00:55:12,080
what was there and philosophically the
left is always against an intelligence
2592
00:55:12,080 –> 00:55:12,090
left is always against an intelligence
2593
00:55:12,090 –> 00:55:14,060
left is always against an intelligence
organization they just always offer so
2594
00:55:14,060 –> 00:55:14,070
organization they just always offer so
2595
00:55:14,070 –> 00:55:17,300
organization they just always offer so
they did a rift fire 2,000 people it’s
2596
00:55:17,300 –> 00:55:17,310
they did a rift fire 2,000 people it’s
2597
00:55:17,310 –> 00:55:19,700
they did a rift fire 2,000 people it’s
called Black Thursday and
2598
00:55:19,700 –> 00:55:19,710
called Black Thursday and
2599
00:55:19,710 –> 00:55:20,990
called Black Thursday and
because it hit him the thursday the end
2600
00:55:20,990 –> 00:55:21,000
because it hit him the thursday the end
2601
00:55:21,000 –> 00:55:23,960
because it hit him the thursday the end
of the pay period and then the next date
2602
00:55:23,960 –> 00:55:23,970
of the pay period and then the next date
2603
00:55:23,970 –> 00:55:26,210
of the pay period and then the next date
another 2,000 people walked out now I I
2604
00:55:26,210 –> 00:55:26,220
another 2,000 people walked out now I I
2605
00:55:26,220 –> 00:55:27,680
another 2,000 people walked out now I I
don’t want to talk about the total
2606
00:55:27,680 –> 00:55:27,690
don’t want to talk about the total
2607
00:55:27,690 –> 00:55:30,980
don’t want to talk about the total
number of people that work CIA but you
2608
00:55:30,980 –> 00:55:30,990
number of people that work CIA but you
2609
00:55:30,990 –> 00:55:33,109
number of people that work CIA but you
know that is a huge chunk out of the
2610
00:55:33,109 –> 00:55:33,119
know that is a huge chunk out of the
2611
00:55:33,119 –> 00:55:34,780
know that is a huge chunk out of the
hide of almost any organization
2612
00:55:34,780 –> 00:55:34,790
hide of almost any organization
2613
00:55:34,790 –> 00:55:38,570
hide of almost any organization
absolutely that really never was
2614
00:55:38,570 –> 00:55:38,580
absolutely that really never was
2615
00:55:38,580 –> 00:55:41,900
absolutely that really never was
recovered from now you had been after
2616
00:55:41,900 –> 00:55:41,910
recovered from now you had been after
2617
00:55:41,910 –> 00:55:45,829
recovered from now you had been after
Jimmy Carter you had President Reagan
2618
00:55:45,829 –> 00:55:45,839
Jimmy Carter you had President Reagan
2619
00:55:45,839 –> 00:55:48,380
Jimmy Carter you had President Reagan
who understood well brought in a former
2620
00:55:48,380 –> 00:55:48,390
who understood well brought in a former
2621
00:55:48,390 –> 00:55:51,140
who understood well brought in a former
OSS man a man to being the director of
2622
00:55:51,140 –> 00:55:51,150
OSS man a man to being the director of
2623
00:55:51,150 –> 00:55:53,000
OSS man a man to being the director of
the CIA who understood intelligence very
2624
00:55:53,000 –> 00:55:53,010
the CIA who understood intelligence very
2625
00:55:53,010 –> 00:55:56,390
the CIA who understood intelligence very
well and started to rebuild so you had a
2626
00:55:56,390 –> 00:55:56,400
well and started to rebuild so you had a
2627
00:55:56,400 –> 00:55:58,220
well and started to rebuild so you had a
period there a golden period there
2628
00:55:58,220 –> 00:55:58,230
period there a golden period there
2629
00:55:58,230 –> 00:56:00,230
period there a golden period there
during the Reagan years where where
2630
00:56:00,230 –> 00:56:00,240
during the Reagan years where where
2631
00:56:00,240 –> 00:56:02,030
during the Reagan years where where
those capabilities started to come back
2632
00:56:02,030 –> 00:56:02,040
those capabilities started to come back
2633
00:56:02,040 –> 00:56:04,609
those capabilities started to come back
and so on following that between Reagan
2634
00:56:04,609 –> 00:56:04,619
and so on following that between Reagan
2635
00:56:04,619 –> 00:56:06,980
and so on following that between Reagan
and and Clinton
2636
00:56:06,980 –> 00:56:06,990
and and Clinton
2637
00:56:06,990 –> 00:56:08,839
and and Clinton
kind of just a period of stagnation
2638
00:56:08,839 –> 00:56:08,849
kind of just a period of stagnation
2639
00:56:08,849 –> 00:56:10,790
kind of just a period of stagnation
nothing really went up or down and and
2640
00:56:10,790 –> 00:56:10,800
nothing really went up or down and and
2641
00:56:10,800 –> 00:56:13,760
nothing really went up or down and and
then you had Clinton who then started
2642
00:56:13,760 –> 00:56:13,770
then you had Clinton who then started
2643
00:56:13,770 –> 00:56:15,710
then you had Clinton who then started
the same thing downsizing getting rid of
2644
00:56:15,710 –> 00:56:15,720
the same thing downsizing getting rid of
2645
00:56:15,720 –> 00:56:18,290
the same thing downsizing getting rid of
people and you started to see the final
2646
00:56:18,290 –> 00:56:18,300
people and you started to see the final
2647
00:56:18,300 –> 00:56:21,470
people and you started to see the final
attack on the operations people who are
2648
00:56:21,470 –> 00:56:21,480
attack on the operations people who are
2649
00:56:21,480 –> 00:56:22,579
attack on the operations people who are
the operations people those are the
2650
00:56:22,579 –> 00:56:22,589
the operations people those are the
2651
00:56:22,589 –> 00:56:25,520
the operations people those are the
people that go recruit spies and so
2652
00:56:25,520 –> 00:56:25,530
people that go recruit spies and so
2653
00:56:25,530 –> 00:56:28,280
people that go recruit spies and so
though those were all downsized gotten
2654
00:56:28,280 –> 00:56:28,290
though those were all downsized gotten
2655
00:56:28,290 –> 00:56:29,990
though those were all downsized gotten
rid of viewed is not particularly
2656
00:56:29,990 –> 00:56:30,000
rid of viewed is not particularly
2657
00:56:30,000 –> 00:56:32,390
rid of viewed is not particularly
important which I mean that’s like
2658
00:56:32,390 –> 00:56:32,400
important which I mean that’s like
2659
00:56:32,400 –> 00:56:34,670
important which I mean that’s like
taking pilots out of the Air Force
2660
00:56:34,670 –> 00:56:34,680
taking pilots out of the Air Force
2661
00:56:34,680 –> 00:56:35,690
taking pilots out of the Air Force
because you don’t think they’re
2662
00:56:35,690 –> 00:56:35,700
because you don’t think they’re
2663
00:56:35,700 –> 00:56:38,900
because you don’t think they’re
important and you know just crazy
2664
00:56:38,900 –> 00:56:38,910
important and you know just crazy
2665
00:56:38,910 –> 00:56:40,670
important and you know just crazy
thinking but that’s what they did so
2666
00:56:40,670 –> 00:56:40,680
thinking but that’s what they did so
2667
00:56:40,680 –> 00:56:42,920
thinking but that’s what they did so
that’s what you what you started to see
2668
00:56:42,920 –> 00:56:42,930
that’s what you what you started to see
2669
00:56:42,930 –> 00:56:48,280
that’s what you what you started to see
and the very strong bureaucratization of
2670
00:56:48,280 –> 00:56:48,290
and the very strong bureaucratization of
2671
00:56:48,290 –> 00:56:51,740
and the very strong bureaucratization of
the CIA began during that period and
2672
00:56:51,740 –> 00:56:51,750
the CIA began during that period and
2673
00:56:51,750 –> 00:56:55,430
the CIA began during that period and
that would I would say was finalized
2674
00:56:55,430 –> 00:56:55,440
that would I would say was finalized
2675
00:56:55,440 –> 00:56:57,950
that would I would say was finalized
under under Obama and that’s what you
2676
00:56:57,950 –> 00:56:57,960
under under Obama and that’s what you
2677
00:56:57,960 –> 00:57:00,170
under under Obama and that’s what you
saw under John Brennan where it became a
2678
00:57:00,170 –> 00:57:00,180
saw under John Brennan where it became a
2679
00:57:00,180 –> 00:57:03,200
saw under John Brennan where it became a
bureaucracy and now even though
2680
00:57:03,200 –> 00:57:03,210
bureaucracy and now even though
2681
00:57:03,210 –> 00:57:05,240
bureaucracy and now even though
traditionally I would agree with you
2682
00:57:05,240 –> 00:57:05,250
traditionally I would agree with you
2683
00:57:05,250 –> 00:57:08,990
traditionally I would agree with you
that the CIA has been absolutely an
2684
00:57:08,990 –> 00:57:09,000
that the CIA has been absolutely an
2685
00:57:09,000 –> 00:57:10,849
that the CIA has been absolutely an
outstanding organization a lot of the
2686
00:57:10,849 –> 00:57:10,859
outstanding organization a lot of the
2687
00:57:10,859 –> 00:57:13,040
outstanding organization a lot of the
risks that were taken by myself and a
2688
00:57:13,040 –> 00:57:13,050
risks that were taken by myself and a
2689
00:57:13,050 –> 00:57:16,700
risks that were taken by myself and a
lot of other people and and you know
2690
00:57:16,700 –> 00:57:16,710
lot of other people and and you know
2691
00:57:16,710 –> 00:57:18,230
lot of other people and and you know
dangerous things we came through where
2692
00:57:18,230 –> 00:57:18,240
dangerous things we came through where
2693
00:57:18,240 –> 00:57:20,810
dangerous things we came through where
we you know eliminated guys who are
2694
00:57:20,810 –> 00:57:20,820
we you know eliminated guys who are
2695
00:57:20,820 –> 00:57:22,550
we you know eliminated guys who are
trying to kill Americans and saved
2696
00:57:22,550 –> 00:57:22,560
trying to kill Americans and saved
2697
00:57:22,560 –> 00:57:25,760
trying to kill Americans and saved
American lives in a number of ways a lot
2698
00:57:25,760 –> 00:57:25,770
American lives in a number of ways a lot
2699
00:57:25,770 –> 00:57:27,349
American lives in a number of ways a lot
of that capability has just been
2700
00:57:27,349 –> 00:57:27,359
of that capability has just been
2701
00:57:27,359 –> 00:57:29,690
of that capability has just been
eliminated and what what it’s what
2702
00:57:29,690 –> 00:57:29,700
eliminated and what what it’s what
2703
00:57:29,700 –> 00:57:30,950
eliminated and what what it’s what
they’ve done is they’ve called it
2704
00:57:30,950 –> 00:57:30,960
they’ve done is they’ve called it
2705
00:57:30,960 –> 00:57:33,290
they’ve done is they’ve called it
modernization so eliminating
2706
00:57:33,290 –> 00:57:33,300
modernization so eliminating
2707
00:57:33,300 –> 00:57:35,180
modernization so eliminating
they’re saying oh we’re evolving or
2708
00:57:35,180 –> 00:57:35,190
they’re saying oh we’re evolving or
2709
00:57:35,190 –> 00:57:36,700
they’re saying oh we’re evolving or
becoming modern and so on but
2710
00:57:36,700 –> 00:57:36,710
becoming modern and so on but
2711
00:57:36,710 –> 00:57:39,380
becoming modern and so on but
eliminating capability is not evolving
2712
00:57:39,380 –> 00:57:39,390
eliminating capability is not evolving
2713
00:57:39,390 –> 00:57:42,020
eliminating capability is not evolving
it’s devolving and so that’s what you
2714
00:57:42,020 –> 00:57:42,030
it’s devolving and so that’s what you
2715
00:57:42,030 –> 00:57:44,960
it’s devolving and so that’s what you
see in I would say the halls of the CIA
2716
00:57:44,960 –> 00:57:44,970
see in I would say the halls of the CIA
2717
00:57:44,970 –> 00:57:46,820
see in I would say the halls of the CIA
today I guess that’s sort of what’s
2718
00:57:46,820 –> 00:57:46,830
today I guess that’s sort of what’s
2719
00:57:46,830 –> 00:57:48,560
today I guess that’s sort of what’s
what’s being talked about so we’ve
2720
00:57:48,560 –> 00:57:48,570
what’s being talked about so we’ve
2721
00:57:48,570 –> 00:57:51,140
what’s being talked about so we’ve
evolved to the situation but you know
2722
00:57:51,140 –> 00:57:51,150
evolved to the situation but you know
2723
00:57:51,150 –> 00:57:52,520
evolved to the situation but you know
and that’s one of the things where I
2724
00:57:52,520 –> 00:57:52,530
and that’s one of the things where I
2725
00:57:52,530 –> 00:57:54,560
and that’s one of the things where I
would say it’s like I say you live in
2726
00:57:54,560 –> 00:57:54,570
would say it’s like I say you live in
2727
00:57:54,570 –> 00:57:56,990
would say it’s like I say you live in
the dark to serve the light but nobody
2728
00:57:56,990 –> 00:57:57,000
the dark to serve the light but nobody
2729
00:57:57,000 –> 00:57:58,610
the dark to serve the light but nobody
can see what’s going on in the door to
2730
00:57:58,610 –> 00:57:58,620
can see what’s going on in the door to
2731
00:57:58,620 –> 00:57:59,630
can see what’s going on in the door to
you gonna have the President of the
2732
00:57:59,630 –> 00:57:59,640
you gonna have the President of the
2733
00:57:59,640 –> 00:58:03,110
you gonna have the President of the
United States who it’s so difficult I’ve
2734
00:58:03,110 –> 00:58:03,120
United States who it’s so difficult I’ve
2735
00:58:03,120 –> 00:58:04,910
United States who it’s so difficult I’ve
gone back and forth who should be in
2736
00:58:04,910 –> 00:58:04,920
gone back and forth who should be in
2737
00:58:04,920 –> 00:58:06,860
gone back and forth who should be in
charge of the CIA should be a purpose
2738
00:58:06,860 –> 00:58:06,870
charge of the CIA should be a purpose
2739
00:58:06,870 –> 00:58:09,170
charge of the CIA should be a purpose
person understands all this or should it
2740
00:58:09,170 –> 00:58:09,180
person understands all this or should it
2741
00:58:09,180 –> 00:58:11,450
person understands all this or should it
be a political type like my Pompeo was
2742
00:58:11,450 –> 00:58:11,460
be a political type like my Pompeo was
2743
00:58:11,460 –> 00:58:13,640
be a political type like my Pompeo was
for example but there are many other and
2744
00:58:13,640 –> 00:58:13,650
for example but there are many other and
2745
00:58:13,650 –> 00:58:15,860
for example but there are many other and
it’s a difficult one to know and it all
2746
00:58:15,860 –> 00:58:15,870
it’s a difficult one to know and it all
2747
00:58:15,870 –> 00:58:17,720
it’s a difficult one to know and it all
boils down to who’s the person does the
2748
00:58:17,720 –> 00:58:17,730
boils down to who’s the person does the
2749
00:58:17,730 –> 00:58:19,250
boils down to who’s the person does the
person understand want to get the right
2750
00:58:19,250 –> 00:58:19,260
person understand want to get the right
2751
00:58:19,260 –> 00:58:21,080
person understand want to get the right
thing done or does the first one to do
2752
00:58:21,080 –> 00:58:21,090
thing done or does the first one to do
2753
00:58:21,090 –> 00:58:23,330
thing done or does the first one to do
what’s good for them and I think that’s
2754
00:58:23,330 –> 00:58:23,340
what’s good for them and I think that’s
2755
00:58:23,340 –> 00:58:25,520
what’s good for them and I think that’s
what it boils down to so we’ve got
2756
00:58:25,520 –> 00:58:25,530
what it boils down to so we’ve got
2757
00:58:25,530 –> 00:58:27,140
what it boils down to so we’ve got
problems there and I would say those
2758
00:58:27,140 –> 00:58:27,150
problems there and I would say those
2759
00:58:27,150 –> 00:58:28,580
problems there and I would say those
problems are what you’re seeing exactly
2760
00:58:28,580 –> 00:58:28,590
problems are what you’re seeing exactly
2761
00:58:28,590 –> 00:58:31,820
problems are what you’re seeing exactly
more openly in the FBI it’s more of what
2762
00:58:31,820 –> 00:58:31,830
more openly in the FBI it’s more of what
2763
00:58:31,830 –> 00:58:33,140
more openly in the FBI it’s more of what
you’re seeing you hear a lot about at
2764
00:58:33,140 –> 00:58:33,150
you’re seeing you hear a lot about at
2765
00:58:33,150 –> 00:58:36,290
you’re seeing you hear a lot about at
NSA and those things are also parallel
2766
00:58:36,290 –> 00:58:36,300
NSA and those things are also parallel
2767
00:58:36,300 –> 00:58:40,880
NSA and those things are also parallel
same things going on at the CIA so it’s
2768
00:58:40,880 –> 00:58:40,890
same things going on at the CIA so it’s
2769
00:58:40,890 –> 00:58:42,230
same things going on at the CIA so it’s
one of the reasons I’ve founded the
2770
00:58:42,230 –> 00:58:42,240
one of the reasons I’ve founded the
2771
00:58:42,240 –> 00:58:44,510
one of the reasons I’ve founded the
organization that I had now which is
2772
00:58:44,510 –> 00:58:44,520
organization that I had now which is
2773
00:58:44,520 –> 00:58:46,460
organization that I had now which is
Americans for intelligence reform just
2774
00:58:46,460 –> 00:58:46,470
Americans for intelligence reform just
2775
00:58:46,470 –> 00:58:49,300
Americans for intelligence reform just
in terraformed org it’s because these
2776
00:58:49,300 –> 00:58:49,310
in terraformed org it’s because these
2777
00:58:49,310 –> 00:58:51,890
in terraformed org it’s because these
either they’re taking care of it they’re
2778
00:58:51,890 –> 00:58:51,900
either they’re taking care of it they’re
2779
00:58:51,900 –> 00:58:53,690
either they’re taking care of it they’re
not rebuilding it and it’s they’re
2780
00:58:53,690 –> 00:58:53,700
not rebuilding it and it’s they’re
2781
00:58:53,700 –> 00:58:54,980
not rebuilding it and it’s they’re
giving the right orders out of the White
2782
00:58:54,980 –> 00:58:54,990
giving the right orders out of the White
2783
00:58:54,990 –> 00:58:56,840
giving the right orders out of the White
House I mean kind of accredits do they
2784
00:58:56,840 –> 00:58:56,850
House I mean kind of accredits do they
2785
00:58:56,850 –> 00:58:59,120
House I mean kind of accredits do they
understand what should be done but is it
2786
00:58:59,120 –> 00:58:59,130
understand what should be done but is it
2787
00:58:59,130 –> 00:59:00,470
understand what should be done but is it
being carried out and are they getting
2788
00:59:00,470 –> 00:59:00,480
being carried out and are they getting
2789
00:59:00,480 –> 00:59:02,330
being carried out and are they getting
honest answers and so on and I would
2790
00:59:02,330 –> 00:59:02,340
honest answers and so on and I would
2791
00:59:02,340 –> 00:59:04,790
honest answers and so on and I would
argue back to them that they do not know
2792
00:59:04,790 –> 00:59:04,800
argue back to them that they do not know
2793
00:59:04,800 –> 00:59:06,620
argue back to them that they do not know
I have meeting some ill and try to talk
2794
00:59:06,620 –> 00:59:06,630
I have meeting some ill and try to talk
2795
00:59:06,630 –> 00:59:08,780
I have meeting some ill and try to talk
to staffers and congressmen and Senators
2796
00:59:08,780 –> 00:59:08,790
to staffers and congressmen and Senators
2797
00:59:08,790 –> 00:59:10,730
to staffers and congressmen and Senators
and so on and it’s just it’s such a
2798
00:59:10,730 –> 00:59:10,740
and so on and it’s just it’s such a
2799
00:59:10,740 –> 00:59:13,250
and so on and it’s just it’s such a
difficult world to understand but they
2800
00:59:13,250 –> 00:59:13,260
difficult world to understand but they
2801
00:59:13,260 –> 00:59:15,050
difficult world to understand but they
really do not and it’s not worth their
2802
00:59:15,050 –> 00:59:15,060
really do not and it’s not worth their
2803
00:59:15,060 –> 00:59:17,330
really do not and it’s not worth their
time and effort body girl so what do you
2804
00:59:17,330 –> 00:59:17,340
time and effort body girl so what do you
2805
00:59:17,340 –> 00:59:22,190
time and effort body girl so what do you
do clean house it’s a it’s going to take
2806
00:59:22,190 –> 00:59:22,200
do clean house it’s a it’s going to take
2807
00:59:22,200 –> 00:59:27,860
do clean house it’s a it’s going to take
time and effort I’m sorry I said need to
2808
00:59:27,860 –> 00:59:27,870
time and effort I’m sorry I said need to
2809
00:59:27,870 –> 00:59:29,390
time and effort I’m sorry I said need to
clean the red tape and the bureaucrats
2810
00:59:29,390 –> 00:59:29,400
clean the red tape and the bureaucrats
2811
00:59:29,400 –> 00:59:31,010
clean the red tape and the bureaucrats
out that that’s that would probably be a
2812
00:59:31,010 –> 00:59:31,020
out that that’s that would probably be a
2813
00:59:31,020 –> 00:59:31,670
out that that’s that would probably be a
good start
2814
00:59:31,670 –> 00:59:31,680
good start
2815
00:59:31,680 –> 00:59:35,930
good start
it surely would be and I hope somebody’s
2816
00:59:35,930 –> 00:59:35,940
it surely would be and I hope somebody’s
2817
00:59:35,940 –> 00:59:37,850
it surely would be and I hope somebody’s
listening that will take it to heart
2818
00:59:37,850 –> 00:59:37,860
listening that will take it to heart
2819
00:59:37,860 –> 00:59:40,080
listening that will take it to heart
Braylon answered just about Dina Haskell
2820
00:59:40,080 –> 00:59:40,090
Braylon answered just about Dina Haskell
2821
00:59:40,090 –> 00:59:42,660
Braylon answered just about Dina Haskell
first woman ever to be put in that
2822
00:59:42,660 –> 00:59:42,670
first woman ever to be put in that
2823
00:59:42,670 –> 00:59:45,780
first woman ever to be put in that
position big historic thing and I talked
2824
00:59:45,780 –> 00:59:45,790
position big historic thing and I talked
2825
00:59:45,790 –> 00:59:47,460
position big historic thing and I talked
to Chris our good friend Chris Hall
2826
00:59:47,460 –> 00:59:47,470
to Chris our good friend Chris Hall
2827
00:59:47,470 –> 00:59:50,130
to Chris our good friend Chris Hall
about it and he he had some thoughts
2828
00:59:50,130 –> 00:59:50,140
about it and he he had some thoughts
2829
00:59:50,140 –> 00:59:50,850
about it and he he had some thoughts
about it
2830
00:59:50,850 –> 00:59:50,860
about it
2831
00:59:50,860 –> 00:59:53,160
about it
and I wonder just if you can speak to
2832
00:59:53,160 –> 00:59:53,170
and I wonder just if you can speak to
2833
00:59:53,170 –> 00:59:55,220
and I wonder just if you can speak to
that a little bit how you feel about her
2834
00:59:55,220 –> 00:59:55,230
that a little bit how you feel about her
2835
00:59:55,230 –> 00:59:58,020
that a little bit how you feel about her
again for the fact that she was the
2836
00:59:58,020 –> 00:59:58,030
again for the fact that she was the
2837
00:59:58,030 –> 01:00:01,290
again for the fact that she was the
first woman to be named CIA director
2838
01:00:01,290 –> 01:00:01,300
first woman to be named CIA director
2839
01:00:01,300 –> 01:00:01,980
first woman to be named CIA director
it’s great
2840
01:00:01,980 –> 01:00:01,990
it’s great
2841
01:00:01,990 –> 01:00:05,970
it’s great
I also noticed she’s had a long history
2842
01:00:05,970 –> 01:00:05,980
I also noticed she’s had a long history
2843
01:00:05,980 –> 01:00:08,070
I also noticed she’s had a long history
in Washington DC – and she served under
2844
01:00:08,070 –> 01:00:08,080
in Washington DC – and she served under
2845
01:00:08,080 –> 01:00:10,020
in Washington DC – and she served under
many presidents and served under John
2846
01:00:10,020 –> 01:00:10,030
many presidents and served under John
2847
01:00:10,030 –> 01:00:11,430
many presidents and served under John
Brennan of course
2848
01:00:11,430 –> 01:00:11,440
Brennan of course
2849
01:00:11,440 –> 01:00:13,580
Brennan of course
and this waterboarding issue came up
2850
01:00:13,580 –> 01:00:13,590
and this waterboarding issue came up
2851
01:00:13,590 –> 01:00:16,170
and this waterboarding issue came up
again during the hearings and then you
2852
01:00:16,170 –> 01:00:16,180
again during the hearings and then you
2853
01:00:16,180 –> 01:00:17,700
again during the hearings and then you
knew it would the left as she said while
2854
01:00:17,700 –> 01:00:17,710
knew it would the left as she said while
2855
01:00:17,710 –> 01:00:20,340
knew it would the left as she said while
ago you said something that I totally
2856
01:00:20,340 –> 01:00:20,350
ago you said something that I totally
2857
01:00:20,350 –> 01:00:22,170
ago you said something that I totally
agree with and it’s something that I
2858
01:00:22,170 –> 01:00:22,180
agree with and it’s something that I
2859
01:00:22,180 –> 01:00:24,000
agree with and it’s something that I
don’t think we talked about enough in
2860
01:00:24,000 –> 01:00:24,010
don’t think we talked about enough in
2861
01:00:24,010 –> 01:00:26,580
don’t think we talked about enough in
this nation how that the left in this
2862
01:00:26,580 –> 01:00:26,590
this nation how that the left in this
2863
01:00:26,590 –> 01:00:29,430
this nation how that the left in this
nation has always fought against the
2864
01:00:29,430 –> 01:00:29,440
nation has always fought against the
2865
01:00:29,440 –> 01:00:31,230
nation has always fought against the
very thing that keeps us safe and free
2866
01:00:31,230 –> 01:00:31,240
very thing that keeps us safe and free
2867
01:00:31,240 –> 01:00:34,080
very thing that keeps us safe and free
and and they just don’t know if they do
2868
01:00:34,080 –> 01:00:34,090
and and they just don’t know if they do
2869
01:00:34,090 –> 01:00:35,370
and and they just don’t know if they do
it on purpose or that’s just their
2870
01:00:35,370 –> 01:00:35,380
it on purpose or that’s just their
2871
01:00:35,380 –> 01:00:37,770
it on purpose or that’s just their
politics or whatever but it’s so such a
2872
01:00:37,770 –> 01:00:37,780
politics or whatever but it’s so such a
2873
01:00:37,780 –> 01:00:40,290
politics or whatever but it’s so such a
struggle to get people of the left to
2874
01:00:40,290 –> 01:00:40,300
struggle to get people of the left to
2875
01:00:40,300 –> 01:00:42,420
struggle to get people of the left to
see the reason that you that you have
2876
01:00:42,420 –> 01:00:42,430
see the reason that you that you have
2877
01:00:42,430 –> 01:00:44,610
see the reason that you that you have
these agencies or to protect America
2878
01:00:44,610 –> 01:00:44,620
these agencies or to protect America
2879
01:00:44,620 –> 01:00:46,140
these agencies or to protect America
it’s not a political issue this is a
2880
01:00:46,140 –> 01:00:46,150
it’s not a political issue this is a
2881
01:00:46,150 –> 01:00:49,080
it’s not a political issue this is a
national security issue and you know
2882
01:00:49,080 –> 01:00:49,090
national security issue and you know
2883
01:00:49,090 –> 01:00:51,480
national security issue and you know
they don’t get that but what was your
2884
01:00:51,480 –> 01:00:51,490
they don’t get that but what was your
2885
01:00:51,490 –> 01:00:53,100
they don’t get that but what was your
thoughts when President Trump named her
2886
01:00:53,100 –> 01:00:53,110
thoughts when President Trump named her
2887
01:00:53,110 –> 01:00:57,270
thoughts when President Trump named her
as the a the new CIA director well I I
2888
01:00:57,270 –> 01:00:57,280
as the a the new CIA director well I I
2889
01:00:57,280 –> 01:01:01,460
as the a the new CIA director well I I
was in many ways against it and kind of
2890
01:01:01,460 –> 01:01:01,470
was in many ways against it and kind of
2891
01:01:01,470 –> 01:01:04,500
was in many ways against it and kind of
led the effort to try and block it you
2892
01:01:04,500 –> 01:01:04,510
led the effort to try and block it you
2893
01:01:04,510 –> 01:01:06,480
led the effort to try and block it you
saw it come out a number of different
2894
01:01:06,480 –> 01:01:06,490
saw it come out a number of different
2895
01:01:06,490 –> 01:01:09,420
saw it come out a number of different
people and so on now I was not against
2896
01:01:09,420 –> 01:01:09,430
people and so on now I was not against
2897
01:01:09,430 –> 01:01:10,980
people and so on now I was not against
her for anything having to do with the
2898
01:01:10,980 –> 01:01:10,990
her for anything having to do with the
2899
01:01:10,990 –> 01:01:13,200
her for anything having to do with the
if the waterboarding I personally have
2900
01:01:13,200 –> 01:01:13,210
if the waterboarding I personally have
2901
01:01:13,210 –> 01:01:15,570
if the waterboarding I personally have
no problems with waterboarding I I don’t
2902
01:01:15,570 –> 01:01:15,580
no problems with waterboarding I I don’t
2903
01:01:15,580 –> 01:01:18,630
no problems with waterboarding I I don’t
consider that to be how torture should
2904
01:01:18,630 –> 01:01:18,640
consider that to be how torture should
2905
01:01:18,640 –> 01:01:22,320
consider that to be how torture should
be defined and I mean you have more us
2906
01:01:22,320 –> 01:01:22,330
be defined and I mean you have more us
2907
01:01:22,330 –> 01:01:24,960
be defined and I mean you have more us
reporters United States reporters that
2908
01:01:24,960 –> 01:01:24,970
reporters United States reporters that
2909
01:01:24,970 –> 01:01:27,660
reporters United States reporters that
have had themselves waterboarded so they
2910
01:01:27,660 –> 01:01:27,670
have had themselves waterboarded so they
2911
01:01:27,670 –> 01:01:32,940
have had themselves waterboarded so they
could report on it now how is that
2912
01:01:32,940 –> 01:01:32,950
could report on it now how is that
2913
01:01:32,950 –> 01:01:35,190
could report on it now how is that
torture I’m sorry how is that tortured
2914
01:01:35,190 –> 01:01:35,200
torture I’m sorry how is that tortured
2915
01:01:35,200 –> 01:01:39,660
torture I’m sorry how is that tortured
boy that’s a great and and you take John
2916
01:01:39,660 –> 01:01:39,670
boy that’s a great and and you take John
2917
01:01:39,670 –> 01:01:42,000
boy that’s a great and and you take John
McCain for example which he’s tried to
2918
01:01:42,000 –> 01:01:42,010
McCain for example which he’s tried to
2919
01:01:42,010 –> 01:01:45,000
McCain for example which he’s tried to
champion these sorts of causes but to me
2920
01:01:45,000 –> 01:01:45,010
champion these sorts of causes but to me
2921
01:01:45,010 –> 01:01:46,800
champion these sorts of causes but to me
it denigrates what happened to him
2922
01:01:46,800 –> 01:01:46,810
it denigrates what happened to him
2923
01:01:46,810 –> 01:01:50,100
it denigrates what happened to him
because he was tortured I mean he’s had
2924
01:01:50,100 –> 01:01:50,110
because he was tortured I mean he’s had
2925
01:01:50,110 –> 01:01:50,680
because he was tortured I mean he’s had
physical
2926
01:01:50,680 –> 01:01:50,690
physical
2927
01:01:50,690 –> 01:01:53,380
physical
all his life because of how badly he was
2928
01:01:53,380 –> 01:01:53,390
all his life because of how badly he was
2929
01:01:53,390 –> 01:01:56,440
all his life because of how badly he was
beaten and interrogators when they go
2930
01:01:56,440 –> 01:01:56,450
beaten and interrogators when they go
2931
01:01:56,450 –> 01:01:57,430
beaten and interrogators when they go
through the training to learn to
2932
01:01:57,430 –> 01:01:57,440
through the training to learn to
2933
01:01:57,440 –> 01:01:59,050
through the training to learn to
waterboard and do all of these and other
2934
01:01:59,050 –> 01:01:59,060
waterboard and do all of these and other
2935
01:01:59,060 –> 01:02:01,030
waterboard and do all of these and other
things part of their training is to go
2936
01:02:01,030 –> 01:02:01,040
things part of their training is to go
2937
01:02:01,040 –> 01:02:03,130
things part of their training is to go
through those things themselves so that
2938
01:02:03,130 –> 01:02:03,140
through those things themselves so that
2939
01:02:03,140 –> 01:02:05,770
through those things themselves so that
they understand how it feels so they’re
2940
01:02:05,770 –> 01:02:05,780
they understand how it feels so they’re
2941
01:02:05,780 –> 01:02:08,050
they understand how it feels so they’re
better at their job as interrogators now
2942
01:02:08,050 –> 01:02:08,060
better at their job as interrogators now
2943
01:02:08,060 –> 01:02:10,660
better at their job as interrogators now
I guarantee you those those North
2944
01:02:10,660 –> 01:02:10,670
I guarantee you those those North
2945
01:02:10,670 –> 01:02:13,390
I guarantee you those those North
Vietnamese weren’t beating themselves up
2946
01:02:13,390 –> 01:02:13,400
Vietnamese weren’t beating themselves up
2947
01:02:13,400 –> 01:02:14,950
Vietnamese weren’t beating themselves up
so they knew what it felt like to beat
2948
01:02:14,950 –> 01:02:14,960
so they knew what it felt like to beat
2949
01:02:14,960 –> 01:02:17,650
so they knew what it felt like to beat
John McCain at the end there’s permanent
2950
01:02:17,650 –> 01:02:17,660
John McCain at the end there’s permanent
2951
01:02:17,660 –> 01:02:19,990
John McCain at the end there’s permanent
damage done to that man so if me
2952
01:02:19,990 –> 01:02:20,000
damage done to that man so if me
2953
01:02:20,000 –> 01:02:22,960
damage done to that man so if me
personally I dislike intently what John
2954
01:02:22,960 –> 01:02:22,970
personally I dislike intently what John
2955
01:02:22,970 –> 01:02:25,180
personally I dislike intently what John
McCain ass has cut out as his position
2956
01:02:25,180 –> 01:02:25,190
McCain ass has cut out as his position
2957
01:02:25,190 –> 01:02:26,980
McCain ass has cut out as his position
on these issues because I think it
2958
01:02:26,980 –> 01:02:26,990
on these issues because I think it
2959
01:02:26,990 –> 01:02:29,230
on these issues because I think it
denigrates what is real torture when you
2960
01:02:29,230 –> 01:02:29,240
denigrates what is real torture when you
2961
01:02:29,240 –> 01:02:30,850
denigrates what is real torture when you
confuse the things that we’ve done I
2962
01:02:30,850 –> 01:02:30,860
confuse the things that we’ve done I
2963
01:02:30,860 –> 01:02:33,520
confuse the things that we’ve done I
mean sleep deprivation and playing with
2964
01:02:33,520 –> 01:02:33,530
mean sleep deprivation and playing with
2965
01:02:33,530 –> 01:02:35,980
mean sleep deprivation and playing with
their diet waterboarding all these
2966
01:02:35,980 –> 01:02:35,990
their diet waterboarding all these
2967
01:02:35,990 –> 01:02:38,770
their diet waterboarding all these
things this is if you can subject’
2968
01:02:38,770 –> 01:02:38,780
things this is if you can subject’
2969
01:02:38,780 –> 01:02:40,360
things this is if you can subject’
subject yourselves to them through
2970
01:02:40,360 –> 01:02:40,370
subject yourselves to them through
2971
01:02:40,370 –> 01:02:42,580
subject yourselves to them through
training that’s that’s not torture
2972
01:02:42,580 –> 01:02:42,590
training that’s that’s not torture
2973
01:02:42,590 –> 01:02:45,970
training that’s that’s not torture
exactly it’s just so III have no
2974
01:02:45,970 –> 01:02:45,980
exactly it’s just so III have no
2975
01:02:45,980 –> 01:02:48,370
exactly it’s just so III have no
problems whatsoever for for what was
2976
01:02:48,370 –> 01:02:48,380
problems whatsoever for for what was
2977
01:02:48,380 –> 01:02:50,860
problems whatsoever for for what was
done to some of these people in the the
2978
01:02:50,860 –> 01:02:50,870
done to some of these people in the the
2979
01:02:50,870 –> 01:02:54,070
done to some of these people in the the
one Sheikh Mohammed who had was the
2980
01:02:54,070 –> 01:02:54,080
one Sheikh Mohammed who had was the
2981
01:02:54,080 –> 01:02:56,410
one Sheikh Mohammed who had was the
master planner for 9/11 that killed
2982
01:02:56,410 –> 01:02:56,420
master planner for 9/11 that killed
2983
01:02:56,420 –> 01:02:58,840
master planner for 9/11 that killed
thousands of people and also he
2984
01:02:58,840 –> 01:02:58,850
thousands of people and also he
2985
01:02:58,850 –> 01:03:02,110
thousands of people and also he
personally cut the throat of reporter
2986
01:03:02,110 –> 01:03:02,120
personally cut the throat of reporter
2987
01:03:02,120 –> 01:03:03,610
personally cut the throat of reporter
u.s. reporter that was filmed and put
2988
01:03:03,610 –> 01:03:03,620
u.s. reporter that was filmed and put
2989
01:03:03,620 –> 01:03:07,990
u.s. reporter that was filmed and put
out later I just I think it my one
2990
01:03:07,990 –> 01:03:08,000
out later I just I think it my one
2991
01:03:08,000 –> 01:03:09,460
out later I just I think it my one
complaint may be on waterboarding is
2992
01:03:09,460 –> 01:03:09,470
complaint may be on waterboarding is
2993
01:03:09,470 –> 01:03:11,110
complaint may be on waterboarding is
it’s perhaps a little bit overly humane
2994
01:03:11,110 –> 01:03:11,120
it’s perhaps a little bit overly humane
2995
01:03:11,120 –> 01:03:13,810
it’s perhaps a little bit overly humane
for those sorts of people but basically
2996
01:03:13,810 –> 01:03:13,820
for those sorts of people but basically
2997
01:03:13,820 –> 01:03:16,870
for those sorts of people but basically
but yeah you know it’s fine and I have
2998
01:03:16,870 –> 01:03:16,880
but yeah you know it’s fine and I have
2999
01:03:16,880 –> 01:03:19,330
but yeah you know it’s fine and I have
no criticisms of what Gina Haskell did
3000
01:03:19,330 –> 01:03:19,340
no criticisms of what Gina Haskell did
3001
01:03:19,340 –> 01:03:26,470
no criticisms of what Gina Haskell did
as the head of this small base that may
3002
01:03:26,470 –> 01:03:26,480
as the head of this small base that may
3003
01:03:26,480 –> 01:03:30,370
as the head of this small base that may
be out in Thailand and in fact mainly
3004
01:03:30,370 –> 01:03:30,380
be out in Thailand and in fact mainly
3005
01:03:30,380 –> 01:03:32,440
be out in Thailand and in fact mainly
what she did is a chica bays
3006
01:03:32,440 –> 01:03:32,450
what she did is a chica bays
3007
01:03:32,450 –> 01:03:34,300
what she did is a chica bays
there’s still chief of station in that
3008
01:03:34,300 –> 01:03:34,310
there’s still chief of station in that
3009
01:03:34,310 –> 01:03:36,850
there’s still chief of station in that
country and that person is in charge of
3010
01:03:36,850 –> 01:03:36,860
country and that person is in charge of
3011
01:03:36,860 –> 01:03:39,250
country and that person is in charge of
overall ops as chief of base what she
3012
01:03:39,250 –> 01:03:39,260
overall ops as chief of base what she
3013
01:03:39,260 –> 01:03:40,840
overall ops as chief of base what she
did was largely administrative in nature
3014
01:03:40,840 –> 01:03:40,850
did was largely administrative in nature
3015
01:03:40,850 –> 01:03:43,090
did was largely administrative in nature
anyway I mean she was making sure that
3016
01:03:43,090 –> 01:03:43,100
anyway I mean she was making sure that
3017
01:03:43,100 –> 01:03:45,130
anyway I mean she was making sure that
everything was done coordinated with
3018
01:03:45,130 –> 01:03:45,140
everything was done coordinated with
3019
01:03:45,140 –> 01:03:47,080
everything was done coordinated with
local liaison that we have the guard for
3020
01:03:47,080 –> 01:03:47,090
local liaison that we have the guard for
3021
01:03:47,090 –> 01:03:48,940
local liaison that we have the guard for
so we need him that you know that people
3022
01:03:48,940 –> 01:03:48,950
so we need him that you know that people
3023
01:03:48,950 –> 01:03:50,620
so we need him that you know that people
are arriving and leaving as they need to
3024
01:03:50,620 –> 01:03:50,630
are arriving and leaving as they need to
3025
01:03:50,630 –> 01:03:52,020
are arriving and leaving as they need to
there’s a lot of administrative
3026
01:03:52,020 –> 01:03:52,030
there’s a lot of administrative
3027
01:03:52,030 –> 01:03:53,620
there’s a lot of administrative
responsibilities with something like
3028
01:03:53,620 –> 01:03:53,630
responsibilities with something like
3029
01:03:53,630 –> 01:03:55,150
responsibilities with something like
that and that was where Gina specialists
3030
01:03:55,150 –> 01:03:55,160
that and that was where Gina specialists
3031
01:03:55,160 –> 01:03:57,070
that and that was where Gina specialists
her time so really it was a known issue
3032
01:03:57,070 –> 01:03:57,080
her time so really it was a known issue
3033
01:03:57,080 –> 01:03:59,590
her time so really it was a known issue
even to begin with and in in some ways I
3034
01:03:59,590 –> 01:03:59,600
even to begin with and in in some ways I
3035
01:03:59,600 –> 01:04:00,820
even to begin with and in in some ways I
would say it was a little bit of a red
3036
01:04:00,820 –> 01:04:00,830
would say it was a little bit of a red
3037
01:04:00,830 –> 01:04:03,700
would say it was a little bit of a red
herring as if it’s used in hearings
3038
01:04:03,700 –> 01:04:03,710
herring as if it’s used in hearings
3039
01:04:03,710 –> 01:04:05,349
herring as if it’s used in hearings
I don’t think it was it was significant
3040
01:04:05,349 –> 01:04:05,359
I don’t think it was it was significant
3041
01:04:05,359 –> 01:04:08,560
I don’t think it was it was significant
now my my being complained of Virgina
3042
01:04:08,560 –> 01:04:08,570
now my my being complained of Virgina
3043
01:04:08,570 –> 01:04:10,599
now my my being complained of Virgina
Haskell is where she’s taking the agency
3044
01:04:10,599 –> 01:04:10,609
Haskell is where she’s taking the agency
3045
01:04:10,609 –> 01:04:12,370
Haskell is where she’s taking the agency
in the future as now the current
3046
01:04:12,370 –> 01:04:12,380
in the future as now the current
3047
01:04:12,380 –> 01:04:15,130
in the future as now the current
director of the CIA and if you look at
3048
01:04:15,130 –> 01:04:15,140
director of the CIA and if you look at
3049
01:04:15,140 –> 01:04:16,599
director of the CIA and if you look at
where she came from and so on I mean a
3050
01:04:16,599 –> 01:04:16,609
where she came from and so on I mean a
3051
01:04:16,609 –> 01:04:18,730
where she came from and so on I mean a
lot of questions were never asked like
3052
01:04:18,730 –> 01:04:18,740
lot of questions were never asked like
3053
01:04:18,740 –> 01:04:24,060
lot of questions were never asked like
for example she was sent to bcos London
3054
01:04:24,060 –> 01:04:24,070
for example she was sent to bcos London
3055
01:04:24,070 –> 01:04:28,950
for example she was sent to bcos London
by none other than John Brennan who was
3056
01:04:28,950 –> 01:04:28,960
by none other than John Brennan who was
3057
01:04:28,960 –> 01:04:31,210
by none other than John Brennan who was
probably I mean again no inside
3058
01:04:31,210 –> 01:04:31,220
probably I mean again no inside
3059
01:04:31,220 –> 01:04:33,460
probably I mean again no inside
information but very likely he was one
3060
01:04:33,460 –> 01:04:33,470
information but very likely he was one
3061
01:04:33,470 –> 01:04:35,200
information but very likely he was one
of the one of the planners involved with
3062
01:04:35,200 –> 01:04:35,210
of the one of the planners involved with
3063
01:04:35,210 –> 01:04:36,579
of the one of the planners involved with
all this stuff now that’s cannot be
3064
01:04:36,579 –> 01:04:36,589
all this stuff now that’s cannot be
3065
01:04:36,589 –> 01:04:38,800
all this stuff now that’s cannot be
called Spygate and precision and all
3066
01:04:38,800 –> 01:04:38,810
called Spygate and precision and all
3067
01:04:38,810 –> 01:04:40,660
called Spygate and precision and all
that sort of stuff and a lot of this was
3068
01:04:40,660 –> 01:04:40,670
that sort of stuff and a lot of this was
3069
01:04:40,670 –> 01:04:42,640
that sort of stuff and a lot of this was
done through England so one of the key
3070
01:04:42,640 –> 01:04:42,650
done through England so one of the key
3071
01:04:42,650 –> 01:04:44,200
done through England so one of the key
people would have been this chief of
3072
01:04:44,200 –> 01:04:44,210
people would have been this chief of
3073
01:04:44,210 –> 01:04:47,290
people would have been this chief of
station in London so I think that she’s
3074
01:04:47,290 –> 01:04:47,300
station in London so I think that she’s
3075
01:04:47,300 –> 01:04:49,930
station in London so I think that she’s
a close collaborator of former director
3076
01:04:49,930 –> 01:04:49,940
a close collaborator of former director
3077
01:04:49,940 –> 01:04:51,820
a close collaborator of former director
Brennan I think all of these questions
3078
01:04:51,820 –> 01:04:51,830
Brennan I think all of these questions
3079
01:04:51,830 –> 01:04:54,550
Brennan I think all of these questions
need to be asked I think in the long run
3080
01:04:54,550 –> 01:04:54,560
need to be asked I think in the long run
3081
01:04:54,560 –> 01:04:56,470
need to be asked I think in the long run
it’s gonna come out that Geena asked
3082
01:04:56,470 –> 01:04:56,480
it’s gonna come out that Geena asked
3083
01:04:56,480 –> 01:04:58,359
it’s gonna come out that Geena asked
what was marginally involved in those
3084
01:04:58,359 –> 01:04:58,369
what was marginally involved in those
3085
01:04:58,369 –> 01:05:00,160
what was marginally involved in those
sorts of things I don’t think she was a
3086
01:05:00,160 –> 01:05:00,170
sorts of things I don’t think she was a
3087
01:05:00,170 –> 01:05:01,859
sorts of things I don’t think she was a
lead player or anything of that nature
3088
01:05:01,859 –> 01:05:01,869
lead player or anything of that nature
3089
01:05:01,869 –> 01:05:04,540
lead player or anything of that nature
but I think she’s also somebody that
3090
01:05:04,540 –> 01:05:04,550
but I think she’s also somebody that
3091
01:05:04,550 –> 01:05:06,579
but I think she’s also somebody that
philosophically is fully an agreement of
3092
01:05:06,579 –> 01:05:06,589
philosophically is fully an agreement of
3093
01:05:06,589 –> 01:05:08,530
philosophically is fully an agreement of
John Brennan which again means the
3094
01:05:08,530 –> 01:05:08,540
John Brennan which again means the
3095
01:05:08,540 –> 01:05:12,010
John Brennan which again means the
devolution of the CIA a lowering of
3096
01:05:12,010 –> 01:05:12,020
devolution of the CIA a lowering of
3097
01:05:12,020 –> 01:05:14,560
devolution of the CIA a lowering of
capabilities and dangerous in this world
3098
01:05:14,560 –> 01:05:14,570
capabilities and dangerous in this world
3099
01:05:14,570 –> 01:05:16,480
capabilities and dangerous in this world
of growing up not down so why would you
3100
01:05:16,480 –> 01:05:16,490
of growing up not down so why would you
3101
01:05:16,490 –> 01:05:19,570
of growing up not down so why would you
want to lower your capability or your
3102
01:05:19,570 –> 01:05:19,580
want to lower your capability or your
3103
01:05:19,580 –> 01:05:21,670
want to lower your capability or your
your ability to do things or seized
3104
01:05:21,670 –> 01:05:21,680
your ability to do things or seized
3105
01:05:21,680 –> 01:05:23,770
your ability to do things or seized
instead of increasing them so I mean
3106
01:05:23,770 –> 01:05:23,780
instead of increasing them so I mean
3107
01:05:23,780 –> 01:05:26,020
instead of increasing them so I mean
it’s just it’s all backwards now and
3108
01:05:26,020 –> 01:05:26,030
it’s just it’s all backwards now and
3109
01:05:26,030 –> 01:05:27,910
it’s just it’s all backwards now and
what they’ve done is create you know you
3110
01:05:27,910 –> 01:05:27,920
what they’ve done is create you know you
3111
01:05:27,920 –> 01:05:31,720
what they’ve done is create you know you
can’t you know swallow without asking a
3112
01:05:31,720 –> 01:05:31,730
can’t you know swallow without asking a
3113
01:05:31,730 –> 01:05:33,640
can’t you know swallow without asking a
lawyer’s permission in and so as a
3114
01:05:33,640 –> 01:05:33,650
lawyer’s permission in and so as a
3115
01:05:33,650 –> 01:05:36,070
lawyer’s permission in and so as a
result very little gets done I think
3116
01:05:36,070 –> 01:05:36,080
result very little gets done I think
3117
01:05:36,080 –> 01:05:37,780
result very little gets done I think
people are getting killed as a result I
3118
01:05:37,780 –> 01:05:37,790
people are getting killed as a result I
3119
01:05:37,790 –> 01:05:40,930
people are getting killed as a result I
think all the time I think just for
3120
01:05:40,930 –> 01:05:40,940
think all the time I think just for
3121
01:05:40,940 –> 01:05:42,609
think all the time I think just for
example the bombing that took place in
3122
01:05:42,609 –> 01:05:42,619
example the bombing that took place in
3123
01:05:42,619 –> 01:05:44,920
example the bombing that took place in
Koestler I believe it was six or seven
3124
01:05:44,920 –> 01:05:44,930
Koestler I believe it was six or seven
3125
01:05:44,930 –> 01:05:47,290
Koestler I believe it was six or seven
CIA officers got killed and another
3126
01:05:47,290 –> 01:05:47,300
CIA officers got killed and another
3127
01:05:47,300 –> 01:05:50,460
CIA officers got killed and another
seven or so that were badly wounded
3128
01:05:50,460 –> 01:05:50,470
seven or so that were badly wounded
3129
01:05:50,470 –> 01:05:53,460
seven or so that were badly wounded
there there was no operations
3130
01:05:53,460 –> 01:05:53,470
there there was no operations
3131
01:05:53,470 –> 01:05:56,349
there there was no operations
you know like career operations people
3132
01:05:56,349 –> 01:05:56,359
you know like career operations people
3133
01:05:56,359 –> 01:05:58,570
you know like career operations people
involved with that and it was a it was
3134
01:05:58,570 –> 01:05:58,580
involved with that and it was a it was
3135
01:05:58,580 –> 01:06:00,910
involved with that and it was a it was
the perfect type of case of what the CIA
3136
01:06:00,910 –> 01:06:00,920
the perfect type of case of what the CIA
3137
01:06:00,920 –> 01:06:03,579
the perfect type of case of what the CIA
to Dave uses as operations is a
3138
01:06:03,579 –> 01:06:03,589
to Dave uses as operations is a
3139
01:06:03,589 –> 01:06:06,370
to Dave uses as operations is a
Jordanian case officer who brought this
3140
01:06:06,370 –> 01:06:06,380
Jordanian case officer who brought this
3141
01:06:06,380 –> 01:06:08,200
Jordanian case officer who brought this
person to us that was supposed to be
3142
01:06:08,200 –> 01:06:08,210
person to us that was supposed to be
3143
01:06:08,210 –> 01:06:10,510
person to us that was supposed to be
somebody who is going to lead us to a
3144
01:06:10,510 –> 01:06:10,520
somebody who is going to lead us to a
3145
01:06:10,520 –> 01:06:13,750
somebody who is going to lead us to a
song bin Laden at the time and so they
3146
01:06:13,750 –> 01:06:13,760
song bin Laden at the time and so they
3147
01:06:13,760 –> 01:06:15,490
song bin Laden at the time and so they
the person who’s in charge of the base
3148
01:06:15,490 –> 01:06:15,500
the person who’s in charge of the base
3149
01:06:15,500 –> 01:06:17,440
the person who’s in charge of the base
was an analyst you know god bless her
3150
01:06:17,440 –> 01:06:17,450
was an analyst you know god bless her
3151
01:06:17,450 –> 01:06:19,420
was an analyst you know god bless her
nothing wrong I mean I if there was a
3152
01:06:19,420 –> 01:06:19,430
nothing wrong I mean I if there was a
3153
01:06:19,430 –> 01:06:21,730
nothing wrong I mean I if there was a
management mistake there or not not her
3154
01:06:21,730 –> 01:06:21,740
management mistake there or not not her
3155
01:06:21,740 –> 01:06:23,589
management mistake there or not not her
father and she paid the ultimate price
3156
01:06:23,589 –> 01:06:23,599
father and she paid the ultimate price
3157
01:06:23,599 –> 01:06:26,109
father and she paid the ultimate price
for this and was killed in this blast
3158
01:06:26,109 –> 01:06:26,119
for this and was killed in this blast
3159
01:06:26,119 –> 01:06:29,710
for this and was killed in this blast
but she was an analyst and so how was
3160
01:06:29,710 –> 01:06:29,720
but she was an analyst and so how was
3161
01:06:29,720 –> 01:06:32,050
but she was an analyst and so how was
the meeting handled you had a he was
3162
01:06:32,050 –> 01:06:32,060
the meeting handled you had a he was
3163
01:06:32,060 –> 01:06:34,150
the meeting handled you had a he was
treated as a visiting dignitary and as
3164
01:06:34,150 –> 01:06:34,160
treated as a visiting dignitary and as
3165
01:06:34,160 –> 01:06:35,800
treated as a visiting dignitary and as
he got out of his car he was welcomed in
3166
01:06:35,800 –> 01:06:35,810
he got out of his car he was welcomed in
3167
01:06:35,810 –> 01:06:38,349
he got out of his car he was welcomed in
a semicircle of people with a secondary
3168
01:06:38,349 –> 01:06:38,359
a semicircle of people with a secondary
3169
01:06:38,359 –> 01:06:40,480
a semicircle of people with a secondary
circuit semicircle behind it he walked
3170
01:06:40,480 –> 01:06:40,490
circuit semicircle behind it he walked
3171
01:06:40,490 –> 01:06:42,280
circuit semicircle behind it he walked
to the middle of it and detonated you
3172
01:06:42,280 –> 01:06:42,290
to the middle of it and detonated you
3173
01:06:42,290 –> 01:06:43,990
to the middle of it and detonated you
know and kill these people now
3174
01:06:43,990 –> 01:06:44,000
know and kill these people now
3175
01:06:44,000 –> 01:06:46,960
know and kill these people now
operations 101 is you don’t meet in
3176
01:06:46,960 –> 01:06:46,970
operations 101 is you don’t meet in
3177
01:06:46,970 –> 01:06:49,870
operations 101 is you don’t meet in
groups of people but I mean person you
3178
01:06:49,870 –> 01:06:49,880
groups of people but I mean person you
3179
01:06:49,880 –> 01:06:52,589
groups of people but I mean person you
meet off someplace he is searching first
3180
01:06:52,589 –> 01:06:52,599
meet off someplace he is searching first
3181
01:06:52,599 –> 01:06:54,910
meet off someplace he is searching first
all these things that were operations
3182
01:06:54,910 –> 01:06:54,920
all these things that were operations
3183
01:06:54,920 –> 01:06:57,520
all these things that were operations
what I want is that’s why we never had
3184
01:06:57,520 –> 01:06:57,530
what I want is that’s why we never had
3185
01:06:57,530 –> 01:06:58,810
what I want is that’s why we never had
those things happen ever before this
3186
01:06:58,810 –> 01:06:58,820
those things happen ever before this
3187
01:06:58,820 –> 01:07:01,420
those things happen ever before this
yeah and now you see the map and that’s
3188
01:07:01,420 –> 01:07:01,430
yeah and now you see the map and that’s
3189
01:07:01,430 –> 01:07:03,250
yeah and now you see the map and that’s
those seven people or six or seven
3190
01:07:03,250 –> 01:07:03,260
those seven people or six or seven
3191
01:07:03,260 –> 01:07:04,930
those seven people or six or seven
people that were killed that’s the fault
3192
01:07:04,930 –> 01:07:04,940
people that were killed that’s the fault
3193
01:07:04,940 –> 01:07:06,310
people that were killed that’s the fault
of Management and that’s the fault of
3194
01:07:06,310 –> 01:07:06,320
of Management and that’s the fault of
3195
01:07:06,320 –> 01:07:08,560
of Management and that’s the fault of
their philosophy and so that’s the path
3196
01:07:08,560 –> 01:07:08,570
their philosophy and so that’s the path
3197
01:07:08,570 –> 01:07:10,540
their philosophy and so that’s the path
that that the agency’s been on for a
3198
01:07:10,540 –> 01:07:10,550
that that the agency’s been on for a
3199
01:07:10,550 –> 01:07:13,060
that that the agency’s been on for a
long time that was fully conclusively
3200
01:07:13,060 –> 01:07:13,070
long time that was fully conclusively
3201
01:07:13,070 –> 01:07:15,940
long time that was fully conclusively
implemented by Kevin Brennan and is now
3202
01:07:15,940 –> 01:07:15,950
implemented by Kevin Brennan and is now
3203
01:07:15,950 –> 01:07:18,400
implemented by Kevin Brennan and is now
being carried forward by Gina so Sheena
3204
01:07:18,400 –> 01:07:18,410
being carried forward by Gina so Sheena
3205
01:07:18,410 –> 01:07:20,650
being carried forward by Gina so Sheena
Haskell for me and almost two cameras
3206
01:07:20,650 –> 01:07:20,660
Haskell for me and almost two cameras
3207
01:07:20,660 –> 01:07:23,710
Haskell for me and almost two cameras
one I questioned the depth of her
3208
01:07:23,710 –> 01:07:23,720
one I questioned the depth of her
3209
01:07:23,720 –> 01:07:26,109
one I questioned the depth of her
involvement with John Brennan on the
3210
01:07:26,109 –> 01:07:26,119
involvement with John Brennan on the
3211
01:07:26,119 –> 01:07:29,829
involvement with John Brennan on the
Russia thing I questioned how the earth
3212
01:07:29,829 –> 01:07:29,839
Russia thing I questioned how the earth
3213
01:07:29,839 –> 01:07:30,790
Russia thing I questioned how the earth
President Trump
3214
01:07:30,790 –> 01:07:30,800
President Trump
3215
01:07:30,800 –> 01:07:32,800
President Trump
ever considered such a thing and then I
3216
01:07:32,800 –> 01:07:32,810
ever considered such a thing and then I
3217
01:07:32,810 –> 01:07:34,720
ever considered such a thing and then I
questioned her vision for the future of
3218
01:07:34,720 –> 01:07:34,730
questioned her vision for the future of
3219
01:07:34,730 –> 01:07:37,329
questioned her vision for the future of
the CIA which she laid out very clearly
3220
01:07:37,329 –> 01:07:37,339
the CIA which she laid out very clearly
3221
01:07:37,339 –> 01:07:40,540
the CIA which she laid out very clearly
in her her hearings if you were
3222
01:07:40,540 –> 01:07:40,550
in her her hearings if you were
3223
01:07:40,550 –> 01:07:42,070
in her her hearings if you were
listening closely she was going to
3224
01:07:42,070 –> 01:07:42,080
listening closely she was going to
3225
01:07:42,080 –> 01:07:43,720
listening closely she was going to
double down on the things that we do
3226
01:07:43,720 –> 01:07:43,730
double down on the things that we do
3227
01:07:43,730 –> 01:07:45,579
double down on the things that we do
with our overseas partners she’s not
3228
01:07:45,579 –> 01:07:45,589
with our overseas partners she’s not
3229
01:07:45,589 –> 01:07:47,380
with our overseas partners she’s not
doubling down on what we do unilaterally
3230
01:07:47,380 –> 01:07:47,390
doubling down on what we do unilaterally
3231
01:07:47,390 –> 01:07:49,030
doubling down on what we do unilaterally
she’s doubling down on what we do with
3232
01:07:49,030 –> 01:07:49,040
she’s doubling down on what we do with
3233
01:07:49,040 –> 01:07:51,339
she’s doubling down on what we do with
our overseas partner and language
3234
01:07:51,339 –> 01:07:51,349
our overseas partner and language
3235
01:07:51,349 –> 01:07:52,810
our overseas partner and language
training and things like that so he’s
3236
01:07:52,810 –> 01:07:52,820
training and things like that so he’s
3237
01:07:52,820 –> 01:07:55,570
training and things like that so he’s
just you know not concentrating on the
3238
01:07:55,570 –> 01:07:55,580
just you know not concentrating on the
3239
01:07:55,580 –> 01:07:57,310
just you know not concentrating on the
basic mission which is ghosts go get
3240
01:07:57,310 –> 01:07:57,320
basic mission which is ghosts go get
3241
01:07:57,320 –> 01:07:59,560
basic mission which is ghosts go get
spies unilaterally that only we know
3242
01:07:59,560 –> 01:07:59,570
spies unilaterally that only we know
3243
01:07:59,570 –> 01:08:01,570
spies unilaterally that only we know
about you know nothing nothing to do
3244
01:08:01,570 –> 01:08:01,580
about you know nothing nothing to do
3245
01:08:01,580 –> 01:08:04,480
about you know nothing nothing to do
with so I’ve given you a very long
3246
01:08:04,480 –> 01:08:04,490
with so I’ve given you a very long
3247
01:08:04,490 –> 01:08:06,670
with so I’ve given you a very long
answer to a short question no no I’m
3248
01:08:06,670 –> 01:08:06,680
answer to a short question no no I’m
3249
01:08:06,680 –> 01:08:08,560
answer to a short question no no I’m
going and I was intriguing I was
3250
01:08:08,560 –> 01:08:08,570
going and I was intriguing I was
3251
01:08:08,570 –> 01:08:10,030
going and I was intriguing I was
listening to you and I think everybody
3252
01:08:10,030 –> 01:08:10,040
listening to you and I think everybody
3253
01:08:10,040 –> 01:08:11,800
listening to you and I think everybody
needs to hear everything you said like
3254
01:08:11,800 –> 01:08:11,810
needs to hear everything you said like
3255
01:08:11,810 –> 01:08:13,329
needs to hear everything you said like
there’s nothing wrong not a bit not a
3256
01:08:13,329 –> 01:08:13,339
there’s nothing wrong not a bit not a
3257
01:08:13,339 –> 01:08:14,980
there’s nothing wrong not a bit not a
thing wrong with what you said and how
3258
01:08:14,980 –> 01:08:14,990
thing wrong with what you said and how
3259
01:08:14,990 –> 01:08:19,780
thing wrong with what you said and how
you said it I got a question for you
3260
01:08:19,780 –> 01:08:19,790
you said it I got a question for you
3261
01:08:19,790 –> 01:08:21,519
you said it I got a question for you
though and it has to do with spies
3262
01:08:21,519 –> 01:08:21,529
though and it has to do with spies
3263
01:08:21,529 –> 01:08:23,829
though and it has to do with spies
because there’s one thing that Chris
3264
01:08:23,829 –> 01:08:23,839
because there’s one thing that Chris
3265
01:08:23,839 –> 01:08:26,050
because there’s one thing that Chris
mentioned in our interview with him um
3266
01:08:26,050 –> 01:08:26,060
mentioned in our interview with him um
3267
01:08:26,060 –> 01:08:28,300
mentioned in our interview with him um
she was somewhat
3268
01:08:28,300 –> 01:08:28,310
she was somewhat
3269
01:08:28,310 –> 01:08:30,580
she was somewhat
responsible for a program and you can
3270
01:08:30,580 –> 01:08:30,590
responsible for a program and you can
3271
01:08:30,590 –> 01:08:32,410
responsible for a program and you can
alluded this maybe I’m I don’t know the
3272
01:08:32,410 –> 01:08:32,420
alluded this maybe I’m I don’t know the
3273
01:08:32,420 –> 01:08:35,650
alluded this maybe I’m I don’t know the
name the program was but basically
3274
01:08:35,650 –> 01:08:35,660
name the program was but basically
3275
01:08:35,660 –> 01:08:38,560
name the program was but basically
eliminated the use of spies out of the
3276
01:08:38,560 –> 01:08:38,570
eliminated the use of spies out of the
3277
01:08:38,570 –> 01:08:40,930
eliminated the use of spies out of the
field as much as the CIA would have done
3278
01:08:40,930 –> 01:08:40,940
field as much as the CIA would have done
3279
01:08:40,940 –> 01:08:44,590
field as much as the CIA would have done
maybe in the past and Brad went from as
3280
01:08:44,590 –> 01:08:44,600
maybe in the past and Brad went from as
3281
01:08:44,600 –> 01:08:49,900
maybe in the past and Brad went from as
a former CIA official it really spies or
3282
01:08:49,900 –> 01:08:49,910
a former CIA official it really spies or
3283
01:08:49,910 –> 01:08:51,310
a former CIA official it really spies or
a vital part of gathering this
3284
01:08:51,310 –> 01:08:51,320
a vital part of gathering this
3285
01:08:51,320 –> 01:08:53,290
a vital part of gathering this
information people dissing nations that
3286
01:08:53,290 –> 01:08:53,300
information people dissing nations that
3287
01:08:53,300 –> 01:08:55,330
information people dissing nations that
we you know that they’re there they’re
3288
01:08:55,330 –> 01:08:55,340
we you know that they’re there they’re
3289
01:08:55,340 –> 01:08:57,520
we you know that they’re there they’re
there for a reason to get intel against
3290
01:08:57,520 –> 01:08:57,530
there for a reason to get intel against
3291
01:08:57,530 –> 01:08:59,530
there for a reason to get intel against
our enemies and against nations that are
3292
01:08:59,530 –> 01:08:59,540
our enemies and against nations that are
3293
01:08:59,540 –> 01:09:01,870
our enemies and against nations that are
trying to do America harm but without
3294
01:09:01,870 –> 01:09:01,880
trying to do America harm but without
3295
01:09:01,880 –> 01:09:04,450
trying to do America harm but without
people deeply embedded in those
3296
01:09:04,450 –> 01:09:04,460
people deeply embedded in those
3297
01:09:04,460 –> 01:09:08,500
people deeply embedded in those
countries as we use the term spies you
3298
01:09:08,500 –> 01:09:08,510
countries as we use the term spies you
3299
01:09:08,510 –> 01:09:10,030
countries as we use the term spies you
know that sort of handcuffs the
3300
01:09:10,030 –> 01:09:10,040
know that sort of handcuffs the
3301
01:09:10,040 –> 01:09:12,550
know that sort of handcuffs the
intelligence gathering the Maroma matter
3302
01:09:12,550 –> 01:09:12,560
intelligence gathering the Maroma matter
3303
01:09:12,560 –> 01:09:14,770
intelligence gathering the Maroma matter
is that is do you know about her role in
3304
01:09:14,770 –> 01:09:14,780
is that is do you know about her role in
3305
01:09:14,780 –> 01:09:16,270
is that is do you know about her role in
that cuz I’m Kristin mentioned as she
3306
01:09:16,270 –> 01:09:16,280
that cuz I’m Kristin mentioned as she
3307
01:09:16,280 –> 01:09:18,340
that cuz I’m Kristin mentioned as she
was sort of part of that movement to
3308
01:09:18,340 –> 01:09:18,350
was sort of part of that movement to
3309
01:09:18,350 –> 01:09:20,820
was sort of part of that movement to
eradicate that part of the CIA II
3310
01:09:20,820 –> 01:09:20,830
eradicate that part of the CIA II
3311
01:09:20,830 –> 01:09:23,790
eradicate that part of the CIA II
operations across the world
3312
01:09:23,790 –> 01:09:23,800
operations across the world
3313
01:09:23,800 –> 01:09:30,160
operations across the world
well I’m she’s now in her hearings what
3314
01:09:30,160 –> 01:09:30,170
well I’m she’s now in her hearings what
3315
01:09:30,170 –> 01:09:31,480
well I’m she’s now in her hearings what
she said she wants to get more people
3316
01:09:31,480 –> 01:09:31,490
she said she wants to get more people
3317
01:09:31,490 –> 01:09:34,660
she said she wants to get more people
back over to her sees something that
3318
01:09:34,660 –> 01:09:34,670
back over to her sees something that
3319
01:09:34,670 –> 01:09:37,690
back over to her sees something that
kind of going following up on that is
3320
01:09:37,690 –> 01:09:37,700
kind of going following up on that is
3321
01:09:37,700 –> 01:09:41,410
kind of going following up on that is
it’s not well the answer your question
3322
01:09:41,410 –> 01:09:41,420
it’s not well the answer your question
3323
01:09:41,420 –> 01:09:44,490
it’s not well the answer your question
is yes I mean to what you want is is CIA
3324
01:09:44,490 –> 01:09:44,500
is yes I mean to what you want is is CIA
3325
01:09:44,500 –> 01:09:47,500
is yes I mean to what you want is is CIA
officers overseas in order to do these
3326
01:09:47,500 –> 01:09:47,510
officers overseas in order to do these
3327
01:09:47,510 –> 01:09:49,990
officers overseas in order to do these
recruitments and find spies those are
3328
01:09:49,990 –> 01:09:50,000
recruitments and find spies those are
3329
01:09:50,000 –> 01:09:51,550
recruitments and find spies those are
the people we the people they find are
3330
01:09:51,550 –> 01:09:51,560
the people we the people they find are
3331
01:09:51,560 –> 01:09:53,290
the people we the people they find are
the ones we call the spies against
3332
01:09:53,290 –> 01:09:53,300
the ones we call the spies against
3333
01:09:53,300 –> 01:09:55,390
the ones we call the spies against
whatever they’re like terrorism or some
3334
01:09:55,390 –> 01:09:55,400
whatever they’re like terrorism or some
3335
01:09:55,400 –> 01:09:59,350
whatever they’re like terrorism or some
enemy country or whatever and there let
3336
01:09:59,350 –> 01:09:59,360
enemy country or whatever and there let
3337
01:09:59,360 –> 01:10:00,760
enemy country or whatever and there let
me say this too there is no country
3338
01:10:00,760 –> 01:10:00,770
me say this too there is no country
3339
01:10:00,770 –> 01:10:05,250
me say this too there is no country
where we’re sent it to even very close
3340
01:10:05,250 –> 01:10:05,260
where we’re sent it to even very close
3341
01:10:05,260 –> 01:10:07,450
where we’re sent it to even very close
countries that are very close allies of
3342
01:10:07,450 –> 01:10:07,460
countries that are very close allies of
3343
01:10:07,460 –> 01:10:11,500
countries that are very close allies of
ours in Canada Australia United Kingdom
3344
01:10:11,500 –> 01:10:11,510
ours in Canada Australia United Kingdom
3345
01:10:11,510 –> 01:10:13,270
ours in Canada Australia United Kingdom
England and so on there there are
3346
01:10:13,270 –> 01:10:13,280
England and so on there there are
3347
01:10:13,280 –> 01:10:15,850
England and so on there there are
differences and so it’s not a one-to-one
3348
01:10:15,850 –> 01:10:15,860
differences and so it’s not a one-to-one
3349
01:10:15,860 –> 01:10:17,200
differences and so it’s not a one-to-one
thing where you can trust them all the
3350
01:10:17,200 –> 01:10:17,210
thing where you can trust them all the
3351
01:10:17,210 –> 01:10:18,850
thing where you can trust them all the
time on everything absolutely and of
3352
01:10:18,850 –> 01:10:18,860
time on everything absolutely and of
3353
01:10:18,860 –> 01:10:22,330
time on everything absolutely and of
course it goes backwards from there
3354
01:10:22,330 –> 01:10:22,340
course it goes backwards from there
3355
01:10:22,340 –> 01:10:24,160
course it goes backwards from there
until you get to people like take
3356
01:10:24,160 –> 01:10:24,170
until you get to people like take
3357
01:10:24,170 –> 01:10:26,230
until you get to people like take
Pakistan for example they’ve been widely
3358
01:10:26,230 –> 01:10:26,240
Pakistan for example they’ve been widely
3359
01:10:26,240 –> 01:10:28,030
Pakistan for example they’ve been widely
criticized and recognize there are large
3360
01:10:28,030 –> 01:10:28,040
criticized and recognize there are large
3361
01:10:28,040 –> 01:10:30,160
criticized and recognize there are large
elements within say the Pakistani
3362
01:10:30,160 –> 01:10:30,170
elements within say the Pakistani
3363
01:10:30,170 –> 01:10:31,330
elements within say the Pakistani
intelligence service that are
3364
01:10:31,330 –> 01:10:31,340
intelligence service that are
3365
01:10:31,340 –> 01:10:34,030
intelligence service that are
cooperating with terrorists and there
3366
01:10:34,030 –> 01:10:34,040
cooperating with terrorists and there
3367
01:10:34,040 –> 01:10:35,290
cooperating with terrorists and there
are elements within that service they
3368
01:10:35,290 –> 01:10:35,300
are elements within that service they
3369
01:10:35,300 –> 01:10:36,970
are elements within that service they
cooperate with us so I mean you have a
3370
01:10:36,970 –> 01:10:36,980
cooperate with us so I mean you have a
3371
01:10:36,980 –> 01:10:39,580
cooperate with us so I mean you have a
truly dangerous men to bag there to to
3372
01:10:39,580 –> 01:10:39,590
truly dangerous men to bag there to to
3373
01:10:39,590 –> 01:10:41,479
truly dangerous men to bag there to to
play with us so you got this
3374
01:10:41,479 –> 01:10:41,489
play with us so you got this
3375
01:10:41,489 –> 01:10:43,129
play with us so you got this
smorgasbord of just everything that you
3376
01:10:43,129 –> 01:10:43,139
smorgasbord of just everything that you
3377
01:10:43,139 –> 01:10:44,779
smorgasbord of just everything that you
can think about there to deal with so
3378
01:10:44,779 –> 01:10:44,789
can think about there to deal with so
3379
01:10:44,789 –> 01:10:47,060
can think about there to deal with so
Matt you a question on getting people
3380
01:10:47,060 –> 01:10:47,070
Matt you a question on getting people
3381
01:10:47,070 –> 01:10:49,790
Matt you a question on getting people
out overseas who is it that you need to
3382
01:10:49,790 –> 01:10:49,800
out overseas who is it that you need to
3383
01:10:49,800 –> 01:10:51,529
out overseas who is it that you need to
be out there and there there is the
3384
01:10:51,529 –> 01:10:51,539
be out there and there there is the
3385
01:10:51,539 –> 01:10:53,870
be out there and there there is the
divergence of what you see with bajina
3386
01:10:53,870 –> 01:10:53,880
divergence of what you see with bajina
3387
01:10:53,880 –> 01:10:56,689
divergence of what you see with bajina
asphalt and and this was implemented
3388
01:10:56,689 –> 01:10:56,699
asphalt and and this was implemented
3389
01:10:56,699 –> 01:11:00,290
asphalt and and this was implemented
really by by former director Brennan and
3390
01:11:00,290 –> 01:11:00,300
really by by former director Brennan and
3391
01:11:00,300 –> 01:11:02,509
really by by former director Brennan and
that is she pretty she’s putting analyst
3392
01:11:02,509 –> 01:11:02,519
that is she pretty she’s putting analyst
3393
01:11:02,519 –> 01:11:03,080
that is she pretty she’s putting analyst
overseas
3394
01:11:03,080 –> 01:11:03,090
overseas
3395
01:11:03,090 –> 01:11:05,509
overseas
now this sounds like a criticism of
3396
01:11:05,509 –> 01:11:05,519
now this sounds like a criticism of
3397
01:11:05,519 –> 01:11:08,479
now this sounds like a criticism of
analyst NH not it’s just the criticism
3398
01:11:08,479 –> 01:11:08,489
analyst NH not it’s just the criticism
3399
01:11:08,489 –> 01:11:11,270
analyst NH not it’s just the criticism
of the way it’s organized and again as I
3400
01:11:11,270 –> 01:11:11,280
of the way it’s organized and again as I
3401
01:11:11,280 –> 01:11:13,700
of the way it’s organized and again as I
stated you really clearly analysts need
3402
01:11:13,700 –> 01:11:13,710
stated you really clearly analysts need
3403
01:11:13,710 –> 01:11:15,410
stated you really clearly analysts need
to be above all of that they need to be
3404
01:11:15,410 –> 01:11:15,420
to be above all of that they need to be
3405
01:11:15,420 –> 01:11:16,700
to be above all of that they need to be
the spider of the singing of the web
3406
01:11:16,700 –> 01:11:16,710
the spider of the singing of the web
3407
01:11:16,710 –> 01:11:18,410
the spider of the singing of the web
getting everything from every source
3408
01:11:18,410 –> 01:11:18,420
getting everything from every source
3409
01:11:18,420 –> 01:11:20,989
getting everything from every source
that’s out there open source sig inhuman
3410
01:11:20,989 –> 01:11:20,999
that’s out there open source sig inhuman
3411
01:11:20,999 –> 01:11:22,640
that’s out there open source sig inhuman
everything that there is to get they get
3412
01:11:22,640 –> 01:11:22,650
everything that there is to get they get
3413
01:11:22,650 –> 01:11:24,439
everything that there is to get they get
they analyze it all and come up with
3414
01:11:24,439 –> 01:11:24,449
they analyze it all and come up with
3415
01:11:24,449 –> 01:11:26,000
they analyze it all and come up with
their best guess as to what the truth is
3416
01:11:26,000 –> 01:11:26,010
their best guess as to what the truth is
3417
01:11:26,010 –> 01:11:28,700
their best guess as to what the truth is
so if you have analyst overseas they’re
3418
01:11:28,700 –> 01:11:28,710
so if you have analyst overseas they’re
3419
01:11:28,710 –> 01:11:31,790
so if you have analyst overseas they’re
read to whatever they’re doing and that
3420
01:11:31,790 –> 01:11:31,800
read to whatever they’re doing and that
3421
01:11:31,800 –> 01:11:33,709
read to whatever they’re doing and that
source that they’re handling therefore
3422
01:11:33,709 –> 01:11:33,719
source that they’re handling therefore
3423
01:11:33,719 –> 01:11:35,750
source that they’re handling therefore
is the best one ever because they did it
3424
01:11:35,750 –> 01:11:35,760
is the best one ever because they did it
3425
01:11:35,760 –> 01:11:37,009
is the best one ever because they did it
that’s human nature
3426
01:11:37,009 –> 01:11:37,019
that’s human nature
3427
01:11:37,019 –> 01:11:39,739
that’s human nature
so those analyst then are biased in
3428
01:11:39,739 –> 01:11:39,749
so those analyst then are biased in
3429
01:11:39,749 –> 01:11:42,319
so those analyst then are biased in
their product and that’s wrong that’s
3430
01:11:42,319 –> 01:11:42,329
their product and that’s wrong that’s
3431
01:11:42,329 –> 01:11:45,200
their product and that’s wrong that’s
just the wrong way to do it and it’s now
3432
01:11:45,200 –> 01:11:45,210
just the wrong way to do it and it’s now
3433
01:11:45,210 –> 01:11:48,049
just the wrong way to do it and it’s now
exemplifies how things are done so just
3434
01:11:48,049 –> 01:11:48,059
exemplifies how things are done so just
3435
01:11:48,059 –> 01:11:50,930
exemplifies how things are done so just
getting people if the seized is not
3436
01:11:50,930 –> 01:11:50,940
getting people if the seized is not
3437
01:11:50,940 –> 01:11:53,450
getting people if the seized is not
helpful what we need to do is get the
3438
01:11:53,450 –> 01:11:53,460
helpful what we need to do is get the
3439
01:11:53,460 –> 01:11:54,950
helpful what we need to do is get the
right people overseas and the right
3440
01:11:54,950 –> 01:11:54,960
right people overseas and the right
3441
01:11:54,960 –> 01:11:56,989
right people overseas and the right
people are the operations people which
3442
01:11:56,989 –> 01:11:56,999
people are the operations people which
3443
01:11:56,999 –> 01:12:01,339
people are the operations people which
now has a cadre no longer exists so the
3444
01:12:01,339 –> 01:12:01,349
now has a cadre no longer exists so the
3445
01:12:01,349 –> 01:12:02,779
now has a cadre no longer exists so the
people like when itself there’s a few
3446
01:12:02,779 –> 01:12:02,789
people like when itself there’s a few
3447
01:12:02,789 –> 01:12:05,029
people like when itself there’s a few
remnants around but as we died off all
3448
01:12:05,029 –> 01:12:05,039
remnants around but as we died off all
3449
01:12:05,039 –> 01:12:07,850
remnants around but as we died off all
that expertise dies with us and it’s all
3450
01:12:07,850 –> 01:12:07,860
that expertise dies with us and it’s all
3451
01:12:07,860 –> 01:12:09,560
that expertise dies with us and it’s all
gonna have to be really alluring again
3452
01:12:09,560 –> 01:12:09,570
gonna have to be really alluring again
3453
01:12:09,570 –> 01:12:10,879
gonna have to be really alluring again
and there’s only one way to learn it and
3454
01:12:10,879 –> 01:12:10,889
and there’s only one way to learn it and
3455
01:12:10,889 –> 01:12:13,339
and there’s only one way to learn it and
it’s it’s blood trials if you will and
3456
01:12:13,339 –> 01:12:13,349
it’s it’s blood trials if you will and
3457
01:12:13,349 –> 01:12:15,439
it’s it’s blood trials if you will and
she knows gladiator games people are
3458
01:12:15,439 –> 01:12:15,449
she knows gladiator games people are
3459
01:12:15,449 –> 01:12:17,120
she knows gladiator games people are
gonna die in order to learn those
3460
01:12:17,120 –> 01:12:17,130
gonna die in order to learn those
3461
01:12:17,130 –> 01:12:19,399
gonna die in order to learn those
lessons again that’s tournament it’s a
3462
01:12:19,399 –> 01:12:19,409
lessons again that’s tournament it’s a
3463
01:12:19,409 –> 01:12:22,540
lessons again that’s tournament it’s a
travesty an absolute travesty a waste of
3464
01:12:22,540 –> 01:12:22,550
travesty an absolute travesty a waste of
3465
01:12:22,550 –> 01:12:26,509
travesty an absolute travesty a waste of
the human lives that have loyal American
3466
01:12:26,509 –> 01:12:26,519
the human lives that have loyal American
3467
01:12:26,519 –> 01:12:28,549
the human lives that have loyal American
citizens that have given their lives in
3468
01:12:28,549 –> 01:12:28,559
citizens that have given their lives in
3469
01:12:28,559 –> 01:12:30,560
citizens that have given their lives in
the past to learn some of these lessons
3470
01:12:30,560 –> 01:12:30,570
the past to learn some of these lessons
3471
01:12:30,570 –> 01:12:32,390
the past to learn some of these lessons
and get better and better and better and
3472
01:12:32,390 –> 01:12:32,400
and get better and better and better and
3473
01:12:32,400 –> 01:12:34,310
and get better and better and better and
to throw that down the toilet the way
3474
01:12:34,310 –> 01:12:34,320
to throw that down the toilet the way
3475
01:12:34,320 –> 01:12:35,839
to throw that down the toilet the way
they rushed down the toilet the way they
3476
01:12:35,839 –> 01:12:35,849
they rushed down the toilet the way they
3477
01:12:35,849 –> 01:12:38,810
they rushed down the toilet the way they
had done it’s a sin it really is a sin
3478
01:12:38,810 –> 01:12:38,820
had done it’s a sin it really is a sin
3479
01:12:38,820 –> 01:12:41,419
had done it’s a sin it really is a sin
and it’s short-sighted and and foolish
3480
01:12:41,419 –> 01:12:41,429
and it’s short-sighted and and foolish
3481
01:12:41,429 –> 01:12:44,509
and it’s short-sighted and and foolish
and you know I criticize it heavily so
3482
01:12:44,509 –> 01:12:44,519
and you know I criticize it heavily so
3483
01:12:44,519 –> 01:12:45,830
and you know I criticize it heavily so
that’s what I’m wearing with Tina
3484
01:12:45,830 –> 01:12:45,840
that’s what I’m wearing with Tina
3485
01:12:45,840 –> 01:12:49,370
that’s what I’m wearing with Tina
asshole when you if she understood what
3486
01:12:49,370 –> 01:12:49,380
asshole when you if she understood what
3487
01:12:49,380 –> 01:12:52,189
asshole when you if she understood what
needed to be done she would reinstitute
3488
01:12:52,189 –> 01:12:52,199
needed to be done she would reinstitute
3489
01:12:52,199 –> 01:12:53,280
needed to be done she would reinstitute
the operations
3490
01:12:53,280 –> 01:12:53,290
the operations
3491
01:12:53,290 –> 01:12:55,650
the operations
ray and then reinstitute that pipeline
3492
01:12:55,650 –> 01:12:55,660
ray and then reinstitute that pipeline
3493
01:12:55,660 –> 01:12:58,410
ray and then reinstitute that pipeline
of training and I’m probably most people
3494
01:12:58,410 –> 01:12:58,420
of training and I’m probably most people
3495
01:12:58,420 –> 01:13:01,470
of training and I’m probably most people
remember a general Schwarzkopf from war
3496
01:13:01,470 –> 01:13:01,480
remember a general Schwarzkopf from war
3497
01:13:01,480 –> 01:13:04,740
remember a general Schwarzkopf from war
a genius by all accounts I mean everyone
3498
01:13:04,740 –> 01:13:04,750
a genius by all accounts I mean everyone
3499
01:13:04,750 –> 01:13:06,240
a genius by all accounts I mean everyone
said he was extraordinarily intelligent
3500
01:13:06,240 –> 01:13:06,250
said he was extraordinarily intelligent
3501
01:13:06,250 –> 01:13:09,000
said he was extraordinarily intelligent
man and in an interview the one time I
3502
01:13:09,000 –> 01:13:09,010
man and in an interview the one time I
3503
01:13:09,010 –> 01:13:11,130
man and in an interview the one time I
heard him say it takes 20 years to build
3504
01:13:11,130 –> 01:13:11,140
heard him say it takes 20 years to build
3505
01:13:11,140 –> 01:13:13,500
heard him say it takes 20 years to build
a combat a fully functioning combat
3506
01:13:13,500 –> 01:13:13,510
a combat a fully functioning combat
3507
01:13:13,510 –> 01:13:15,270
a combat a fully functioning combat
Colonel which those are the people he
3508
01:13:15,270 –> 01:13:15,280
Colonel which those are the people he
3509
01:13:15,280 –> 01:13:17,910
Colonel which those are the people he
depended on in that fighting now I would
3510
01:13:17,910 –> 01:13:17,920
depended on in that fighting now I would
3511
01:13:17,920 –> 01:13:19,440
depended on in that fighting now I would
argue that it takes exactly the same
3512
01:13:19,440 –> 01:13:19,450
argue that it takes exactly the same
3513
01:13:19,450 –> 01:13:21,560
argue that it takes exactly the same
thing 20 years to build a fully
3514
01:13:21,560 –> 01:13:21,570
thing 20 years to build a fully
3515
01:13:21,570 –> 01:13:23,910
thing 20 years to build a fully
functional across-the-board
3516
01:13:23,910 –> 01:13:23,920
functional across-the-board
3517
01:13:23,920 –> 01:13:25,770
functional across-the-board
Chifa station that can be out overseas
3518
01:13:25,770 –> 01:13:25,780
Chifa station that can be out overseas
3519
01:13:25,780 –> 01:13:27,360
Chifa station that can be out overseas
and understands how to run all those
3520
01:13:27,360 –> 01:13:27,370
and understands how to run all those
3521
01:13:27,370 –> 01:13:30,270
and understands how to run all those
operations how that 20-year pipeline
3522
01:13:30,270 –> 01:13:30,280
operations how that 20-year pipeline
3523
01:13:30,280 –> 01:13:32,940
operations how that 20-year pipeline
doesn’t exist so why you’ve got a few
3524
01:13:32,940 –> 01:13:32,950
doesn’t exist so why you’ve got a few
3525
01:13:32,950 –> 01:13:34,470
doesn’t exist so why you’ve got a few
people who are still around like when he
3526
01:13:34,470 –> 01:13:34,480
people who are still around like when he
3527
01:13:34,480 –> 01:13:36,960
people who are still around like when he
said most of us are getting old and
3528
01:13:36,960 –> 01:13:36,970
said most of us are getting old and
3529
01:13:36,970 –> 01:13:39,150
said most of us are getting old and
dining on off and retiring and aren’t
3530
01:13:39,150 –> 01:13:39,160
dining on off and retiring and aren’t
3531
01:13:39,160 –> 01:13:41,130
dining on off and retiring and aren’t
involved anymore so those people are no
3532
01:13:41,130 –> 01:13:41,140
involved anymore so those people are no
3533
01:13:41,140 –> 01:13:42,690
involved anymore so those people are no
longer in the agency so they don’t even
3534
01:13:42,690 –> 01:13:42,700
longer in the agency so they don’t even
3535
01:13:42,700 –> 01:13:43,500
longer in the agency so they don’t even
know it’s gone
3536
01:13:43,500 –> 01:13:43,510
know it’s gone
3537
01:13:43,510 –> 01:13:45,570
know it’s gone
they don’t recognize what they don’t
3538
01:13:45,570 –> 01:13:45,580
they don’t recognize what they don’t
3539
01:13:45,580 –> 01:13:50,240
they don’t recognize what they don’t
know and this is just stupid dangerous
3540
01:13:50,240 –> 01:13:50,250
know and this is just stupid dangerous
3541
01:13:50,250 –> 01:13:52,980
know and this is just stupid dangerous
horrible way to go to go forward in this
3542
01:13:52,980 –> 01:13:52,990
horrible way to go to go forward in this
3543
01:13:52,990 –> 01:13:55,770
horrible way to go to go forward in this
thing but that’s what we see and like I
3544
01:13:55,770 –> 01:13:55,780
thing but that’s what we see and like I
3545
01:13:55,780 –> 01:13:57,420
thing but that’s what we see and like I
said you know Gina Haskell has not
3546
01:13:57,420 –> 01:13:57,430
said you know Gina Haskell has not
3547
01:13:57,430 –> 01:13:59,460
said you know Gina Haskell has not
reinstated the operations cadre the
3548
01:13:59,460 –> 01:13:59,470
reinstated the operations cadre the
3549
01:13:59,470 –> 01:14:02,310
reinstated the operations cadre the
pipeline doesn’t exist so certainly
3550
01:14:02,310 –> 01:14:02,320
pipeline doesn’t exist so certainly
3551
01:14:02,320 –> 01:14:03,660
pipeline doesn’t exist so certainly
within ten years almost all that
3552
01:14:03,660 –> 01:14:03,670
within ten years almost all that
3553
01:14:03,670 –> 01:14:06,000
within ten years almost all that
capability it’s not going to exist and
3554
01:14:06,000 –> 01:14:06,010
capability it’s not going to exist and
3555
01:14:06,010 –> 01:14:08,670
capability it’s not going to exist and
it’ll be past the tipping point to where
3556
01:14:08,670 –> 01:14:08,680
it’ll be past the tipping point to where
3557
01:14:08,680 –> 01:14:10,350
it’ll be past the tipping point to where
it can be brought back you know the
3558
01:14:10,350 –> 01:14:10,360
it can be brought back you know the
3559
01:14:10,360 –> 01:14:11,940
it can be brought back you know the
people that are down doing the training
3560
01:14:11,940 –> 01:14:11,950
people that are down doing the training
3561
01:14:11,950 –> 01:14:13,890
people that are down doing the training
for the agency at the farm are all guys
3562
01:14:13,890 –> 01:14:13,900
for the agency at the farm are all guys
3563
01:14:13,900 –> 01:14:17,670
for the agency at the farm are all guys
like me and for it’s mine and and and
3564
01:14:17,670 –> 01:14:17,680
like me and for it’s mine and and and
3565
01:14:17,680 –> 01:14:18,990
like me and for it’s mine and and and
those guys are all leaving because they
3566
01:14:18,990 –> 01:14:19,000
those guys are all leaving because they
3567
01:14:19,000 –> 01:14:20,820
those guys are all leaving because they
don’t care about what they know because
3568
01:14:20,820 –> 01:14:20,830
don’t care about what they know because
3569
01:14:20,830 –> 01:14:22,110
don’t care about what they know because
that’s just not what they do anymore
3570
01:14:22,110 –> 01:14:22,120
that’s just not what they do anymore
3571
01:14:22,120 –> 01:14:23,640
that’s just not what they do anymore
there’s no operations cadre you don’t
3572
01:14:23,640 –> 01:14:23,650
there’s no operations cadre you don’t
3573
01:14:23,650 –> 01:14:26,640
there’s no operations cadre you don’t
need so those guys are all moving off
3574
01:14:26,640 –> 01:14:26,650
need so those guys are all moving off
3575
01:14:26,650 –> 01:14:28,950
need so those guys are all moving off
doing other things leaving and who’s
3576
01:14:28,950 –> 01:14:28,960
doing other things leaving and who’s
3577
01:14:28,960 –> 01:14:31,320
doing other things leaving and who’s
gonna train in the future well I think
3578
01:14:31,320 –> 01:14:31,330
gonna train in the future well I think
3579
01:14:31,330 –> 01:14:35,340
gonna train in the future well I think
my biggest issue with Gina was and again
3580
01:14:35,340 –> 01:14:35,350
my biggest issue with Gina was and again
3581
01:14:35,350 –> 01:14:37,170
my biggest issue with Gina was and again
I respect the fact she’s the first woman
3582
01:14:37,170 –> 01:14:37,180
I respect the fact she’s the first woman
3583
01:14:37,180 –> 01:14:39,240
I respect the fact she’s the first woman
and I’ll call a president Trump about
3584
01:14:39,240 –> 01:14:39,250
and I’ll call a president Trump about
3585
01:14:39,250 –> 01:14:41,430
and I’ll call a president Trump about
that but I think when Michael Hayden
3586
01:14:41,430 –> 01:14:41,440
that but I think when Michael Hayden
3587
01:14:41,440 –> 01:14:44,160
that but I think when Michael Hayden
came out he is a he don’t like president
3588
01:14:44,160 –> 01:14:44,170
came out he is a he don’t like president
3589
01:14:44,170 –> 01:14:46,140
came out he is a he don’t like president
repertoire at all zilch
3590
01:14:46,140 –> 01:14:46,150
repertoire at all zilch
3591
01:14:46,150 –> 01:14:48,750
repertoire at all zilch
and never dropper and when he came out
3592
01:14:48,750 –> 01:14:48,760
and never dropper and when he came out
3593
01:14:48,760 –> 01:14:50,580
and never dropper and when he came out
and he was appalled her nomination he
3594
01:14:50,580 –> 01:14:50,590
and he was appalled her nomination he
3595
01:14:50,590 –> 01:14:51,870
and he was appalled her nomination he
said well I’m just glad somebody’s gonna
3596
01:14:51,870 –> 01:14:51,880
said well I’m just glad somebody’s gonna
3597
01:14:51,880 –> 01:14:53,040
said well I’m just glad somebody’s gonna
be in the room that can stand up to
3598
01:14:53,040 –> 01:14:53,050
be in the room that can stand up to
3599
01:14:53,050 –> 01:14:54,540
be in the room that can stand up to
President Trump that told me right then
3600
01:14:54,540 –> 01:14:54,550
President Trump that told me right then
3601
01:14:54,550 –> 01:14:57,270
President Trump that told me right then
because he was with bush you know and
3602
01:14:57,270 –> 01:14:57,280
because he was with bush you know and
3603
01:14:57,280 –> 01:14:59,850
because he was with bush you know and
the Republicans Republican presidents
3604
01:14:59,850 –> 01:14:59,860
the Republicans Republican presidents
3605
01:14:59,860 –> 01:15:03,600
the Republicans Republican presidents
you know and at the Obama to a little
3606
01:15:03,600 –> 01:15:03,610
you know and at the Obama to a little
3607
01:15:03,610 –> 01:15:05,940
you know and at the Obama to a little
bit but when the Republican
3608
01:15:05,940 –> 01:15:05,950
bit but when the Republican
3609
01:15:05,950 –> 01:15:07,009
bit but when the Republican
establishment
3610
01:15:07,009 –> 01:15:07,019
establishment
3611
01:15:07,019 –> 01:15:10,069
establishment
sort of coming out for her that worries
3612
01:15:10,069 –> 01:15:10,079
sort of coming out for her that worries
3613
01:15:10,079 –> 01:15:11,479
sort of coming out for her that worries
me just as much as when the Democrats
3614
01:15:11,479 –> 01:15:11,489
me just as much as when the Democrats
3615
01:15:11,489 –> 01:15:14,419
me just as much as when the Democrats
come out for Brad the whole Washington
3616
01:15:14,419 –> 01:15:14,429
come out for Brad the whole Washington
3617
01:15:14,429 –> 01:15:16,549
come out for Brad the whole Washington
elite club whenever they start appalled
3618
01:15:16,549 –> 01:15:16,559
elite club whenever they start appalled
3619
01:15:16,559 –> 01:15:18,739
elite club whenever they start appalled
somebody I think we here in Middle
3620
01:15:18,739 –> 01:15:18,749
somebody I think we here in Middle
3621
01:15:18,749 –> 01:15:20,750
somebody I think we here in Middle
America again we get nervous because we
3622
01:15:20,750 –> 01:15:20,760
America again we get nervous because we
3623
01:15:20,760 –> 01:15:22,189
America again we get nervous because we
would prefer to add somebody with just
3624
01:15:22,189 –> 01:15:22,199
would prefer to add somebody with just
3625
01:15:22,199 –> 01:15:23,689
would prefer to add somebody with just
in common sense that goes in there and
3626
01:15:23,689 –> 01:15:23,699
in common sense that goes in there and
3627
01:15:23,699 –> 01:15:26,119
in common sense that goes in there and
you know takes care of business like the
3628
01:15:26,119 –> 01:15:26,129
you know takes care of business like the
3629
01:15:26,129 –> 01:15:28,009
you know takes care of business like the
CIA should we got about ten minutes
3630
01:15:28,009 –> 01:15:28,019
CIA should we got about ten minutes
3631
01:15:28,019 –> 01:15:30,289
CIA should we got about ten minutes
buddy I want to ask you a couple of just
3632
01:15:30,289 –> 01:15:30,299
buddy I want to ask you a couple of just
3633
01:15:30,299 –> 01:15:31,489
buddy I want to ask you a couple of just
general questions and then we’re gonna
3634
01:15:31,489 –> 01:15:31,499
general questions and then we’re gonna
3635
01:15:31,499 –> 01:15:32,750
general questions and then we’re gonna
let you wrap so this has been a great
3636
01:15:32,750 –> 01:15:32,760
let you wrap so this has been a great
3637
01:15:32,760 –> 01:15:35,079
let you wrap so this has been a great
interview man we really enjoy to be a
3638
01:15:35,079 –> 01:15:35,089
interview man we really enjoy to be a
3639
01:15:35,089 –> 01:15:37,699
interview man we really enjoy to be a
really has good information I’ve learned
3640
01:15:37,699 –> 01:15:37,709
really has good information I’ve learned
3641
01:15:37,709 –> 01:15:43,579
really has good information I’ve learned
a lot just listening to you and but what
3642
01:15:43,579 –> 01:15:43,589
a lot just listening to you and but what
3643
01:15:43,589 –> 01:15:46,250
a lot just listening to you and but what
are some of the dangers I mean we’ve
3644
01:15:46,250 –> 01:15:46,260
are some of the dangers I mean we’ve
3645
01:15:46,260 –> 01:15:47,839
are some of the dangers I mean we’ve
talked about all about the fact that
3646
01:15:47,839 –> 01:15:47,849
talked about all about the fact that
3647
01:15:47,849 –> 01:15:49,699
talked about all about the fact that
these agents have had such a dangerous
3648
01:15:49,699 –> 01:15:49,709
these agents have had such a dangerous
3649
01:15:49,709 –> 01:15:51,829
these agents have had such a dangerous
they live a dangerous life from a
3650
01:15:51,829 –> 01:15:51,839
they live a dangerous life from a
3651
01:15:51,839 –> 01:15:53,419
they live a dangerous life from a
personal perspective you’ve been in this
3652
01:15:53,419 –> 01:15:53,429
personal perspective you’ve been in this
3653
01:15:53,429 –> 01:15:56,899
personal perspective you’ve been in this
25 years you don’t have to go into
3654
01:15:56,899 –> 01:15:56,909
25 years you don’t have to go into
3655
01:15:56,909 –> 01:15:59,179
25 years you don’t have to go into
detail that you can’t divulge but I do
3656
01:15:59,179 –> 01:15:59,189
detail that you can’t divulge but I do
3657
01:15:59,189 –> 01:16:02,000
detail that you can’t divulge but I do
want to just ask in general terms how a
3658
01:16:02,000 –> 01:16:02,010
want to just ask in general terms how a
3659
01:16:02,010 –> 01:16:04,369
want to just ask in general terms how a
how you sort of balance that with your
3660
01:16:04,369 –> 01:16:04,379
how you sort of balance that with your
3661
01:16:04,379 –> 01:16:06,139
how you sort of balance that with your
family and the feeling of danger and the
3662
01:16:06,139 –> 01:16:06,149
family and the feeling of danger and the
3663
01:16:06,149 –> 01:16:07,699
family and the feeling of danger and the
feeling that you you’re out there
3664
01:16:07,699 –> 01:16:07,709
feeling that you you’re out there
3665
01:16:07,709 –> 01:16:09,379
feeling that you you’re out there
putting your life on the line and and
3666
01:16:09,379 –> 01:16:09,389
putting your life on the line and and
3667
01:16:09,389 –> 01:16:11,989
putting your life on the line and and
how does that affect to CIA individual
3668
01:16:11,989 –> 01:16:11,999
how does that affect to CIA individual
3669
01:16:11,999 –> 01:16:13,609
how does that affect to CIA individual
for somebody getting into the CIA today
3670
01:16:13,609 –> 01:16:13,619
for somebody getting into the CIA today
3671
01:16:13,619 –> 01:16:15,049
for somebody getting into the CIA today
what what did they what can they expect
3672
01:16:15,049 –> 01:16:15,059
what what did they what can they expect
3673
01:16:15,059 –> 01:16:17,750
what what did they what can they expect
I mean this is a lie phone call and this
3674
01:16:17,750 –> 01:16:17,760
I mean this is a lie phone call and this
3675
01:16:17,760 –> 01:16:19,699
I mean this is a lie phone call and this
is not some kind of game that we play
3676
01:16:19,699 –> 01:16:19,709
is not some kind of game that we play
3677
01:16:19,709 –> 01:16:23,839
is not some kind of game that we play
this is this is life or death man yeah
3678
01:16:23,839 –> 01:16:23,849
this is this is life or death man yeah
3679
01:16:23,849 –> 01:16:25,759
this is this is life or death man yeah
you know the floors feeding on that has
3680
01:16:25,759 –> 01:16:25,769
you know the floors feeding on that has
3681
01:16:25,769 –> 01:16:27,769
you know the floors feeding on that has
changed Oh a Libyan one thing to what
3682
01:16:27,769 –> 01:16:27,779
changed Oh a Libyan one thing to what
3683
01:16:27,779 –> 01:16:29,779
changed Oh a Libyan one thing to what
you’re saying before to you know who
3684
01:16:29,779 –> 01:16:29,789
you’re saying before to you know who
3685
01:16:29,789 –> 01:16:31,609
you’re saying before to you know who
else one of the very first supporters of
3686
01:16:31,609 –> 01:16:31,619
else one of the very first supporters of
3687
01:16:31,619 –> 01:16:33,049
else one of the very first supporters of
Geena asked for was was John Brennan
3688
01:16:33,049 –> 01:16:33,059
Geena asked for was was John Brennan
3689
01:16:33,059 –> 01:16:36,979
Geena asked for was was John Brennan
himself and James yes they were so which
3690
01:16:36,979 –> 01:16:36,989
himself and James yes they were so which
3691
01:16:36,989 –> 01:16:38,149
himself and James yes they were so which
to me would have been if I were
3692
01:16:38,149 –> 01:16:38,159
to me would have been if I were
3693
01:16:38,159 –> 01:16:40,039
to me would have been if I were
president from Renault Megane that said
3694
01:16:40,039 –> 01:16:40,049
president from Renault Megane that said
3695
01:16:40,049 –> 01:16:44,629
president from Renault Megane that said
you know whiskey-tango-foxtrot I forgive
3696
01:16:44,629 –> 01:16:44,639
you know whiskey-tango-foxtrot I forgive
3697
01:16:44,639 –> 01:16:51,289
you know whiskey-tango-foxtrot I forgive
my you know as a as a career the
3698
01:16:51,289 –> 01:16:51,299
my you know as a as a career the
3699
01:16:51,299 –> 01:16:53,000
my you know as a as a career the
philosophy has changed and you’ve seen
3700
01:16:53,000 –> 01:16:53,010
philosophy has changed and you’ve seen
3701
01:16:53,010 –> 01:16:55,459
philosophy has changed and you’ve seen
papers papers published by senior level
3702
01:16:55,459 –> 01:16:55,469
papers papers published by senior level
3703
01:16:55,469 –> 01:16:58,069
papers papers published by senior level
CIA people who’ve retired and gone on to
3704
01:16:58,069 –> 01:16:58,079
CIA people who’ve retired and gone on to
3705
01:16:58,079 –> 01:17:00,589
CIA people who’ve retired and gone on to
say academic positions and so on and the
3706
01:17:00,589 –> 01:17:00,599
say academic positions and so on and the
3707
01:17:00,599 –> 01:17:03,109
say academic positions and so on and the
philosophy has changed always before the
3708
01:17:03,109 –> 01:17:03,119
philosophy has changed always before the
3709
01:17:03,119 –> 01:17:04,819
philosophy has changed always before the
idea was to bring in people and keep
3710
01:17:04,819 –> 01:17:04,829
idea was to bring in people and keep
3711
01:17:04,829 –> 01:17:07,399
idea was to bring in people and keep
them as a career and as a career it’s
3712
01:17:07,399 –> 01:17:07,409
them as a career and as a career it’s
3713
01:17:07,409 –> 01:17:09,049
them as a career and as a career it’s
one of those careers that’s the same as
3714
01:17:09,049 –> 01:17:09,059
one of those careers that’s the same as
3715
01:17:09,059 –> 01:17:10,909
one of those careers that’s the same as
a lot of law enforcement and certainly
3716
01:17:10,909 –> 01:17:10,919
a lot of law enforcement and certainly
3717
01:17:10,919 –> 01:17:12,829
a lot of law enforcement and certainly
you don’t have a lot of friends with say
3718
01:17:12,829 –> 01:17:12,839
you don’t have a lot of friends with say
3719
01:17:12,839 –> 01:17:14,419
you don’t have a lot of friends with say
Special Forces through the years and so
3720
01:17:14,419 –> 01:17:14,429
Special Forces through the years and so
3721
01:17:14,429 –> 01:17:16,789
Special Forces through the years and so
on and it’s it’s similar in the sense
3722
01:17:16,789 –> 01:17:16,799
on and it’s it’s similar in the sense
3723
01:17:16,799 –> 01:17:19,760
on and it’s it’s similar in the sense
that you see a high divorce rate you see
3724
01:17:19,760 –> 01:17:19,770
that you see a high divorce rate you see
3725
01:17:19,770 –> 01:17:24,090
that you see a high divorce rate you see
there’s there’s a human toll having jobs
3726
01:17:24,090 –> 01:17:24,100
there’s there’s a human toll having jobs
3727
01:17:24,100 –> 01:17:26,640
there’s there’s a human toll having jobs
of this nature it’s either something
3728
01:17:26,640 –> 01:17:26,650
of this nature it’s either something
3729
01:17:26,650 –> 01:17:28,290
of this nature it’s either something
you’re sort of built to handle well or
3730
01:17:28,290 –> 01:17:28,300
you’re sort of built to handle well or
3731
01:17:28,300 –> 01:17:31,680
you’re sort of built to handle well or
you’re not and I’ll have to say I think
3732
01:17:31,680 –> 01:17:31,690
you’re not and I’ll have to say I think
3733
01:17:31,690 –> 01:17:34,290
you’re not and I’ll have to say I think
it’s it’s you’re born with this ability
3734
01:17:34,290 –> 01:17:34,300
it’s it’s you’re born with this ability
3735
01:17:34,300 –> 01:17:36,810
it’s it’s you’re born with this ability
versus develop it I think some people
3736
01:17:36,810 –> 01:17:36,820
versus develop it I think some people
3737
01:17:36,820 –> 01:17:38,280
versus develop it I think some people
are kind of on the edge and can develop
3738
01:17:38,280 –> 01:17:38,290
are kind of on the edge and can develop
3739
01:17:38,290 –> 01:17:42,000
are kind of on the edge and can develop
it but Oh taking all as a whole I think
3740
01:17:42,000 –> 01:17:42,010
it but Oh taking all as a whole I think
3741
01:17:42,010 –> 01:17:43,470
it but Oh taking all as a whole I think
kind of you tend to be born with the
3742
01:17:43,470 –> 01:17:43,480
kind of you tend to be born with the
3743
01:17:43,480 –> 01:17:46,500
kind of you tend to be born with the
capability to do well or not then the
3744
01:17:46,500 –> 01:17:46,510
capability to do well or not then the
3745
01:17:46,510 –> 01:17:48,390
capability to do well or not then the
danger it’s all out there but you know
3746
01:17:48,390 –> 01:17:48,400
danger it’s all out there but you know
3747
01:17:48,400 –> 01:17:50,220
danger it’s all out there but you know
an agency traditionally if you had all
3748
01:17:50,220 –> 01:17:50,230
an agency traditionally if you had all
3749
01:17:50,230 –> 01:17:51,540
an agency traditionally if you had all
that operational training you knew it
3750
01:17:51,540 –> 01:17:51,550
that operational training you knew it
3751
01:17:51,550 –> 01:17:53,430
that operational training you knew it
too you don’t go places where you’re
3752
01:17:53,430 –> 01:17:53,440
too you don’t go places where you’re
3753
01:17:53,440 –> 01:17:54,120
too you don’t go places where you’re
gonna get killed
3754
01:17:54,120 –> 01:17:54,130
gonna get killed
3755
01:17:54,130 –> 01:17:55,980
gonna get killed
might send somebody else in there but
3756
01:17:55,980 –> 01:17:55,990
might send somebody else in there but
3757
01:17:55,990 –> 01:17:57,420
might send somebody else in there but
it’s somebody else who’s not gonna get
3758
01:17:57,420 –> 01:17:57,430
it’s somebody else who’s not gonna get
3759
01:17:57,430 –> 01:18:00,840
it’s somebody else who’s not gonna get
killed so you know it’s it’s it’s it’s
3760
01:18:00,840 –> 01:18:00,850
killed so you know it’s it’s it’s it’s
3761
01:18:00,850 –> 01:18:02,610
killed so you know it’s it’s it’s it’s
just you balance all of that out and you
3762
01:18:02,610 –> 01:18:02,620
just you balance all of that out and you
3763
01:18:02,620 –> 01:18:04,620
just you balance all of that out and you
do your risk calculations and you do it
3764
01:18:04,620 –> 01:18:04,630
do your risk calculations and you do it
3765
01:18:04,630 –> 01:18:06,480
do your risk calculations and you do it
worse I mean I’ve been in some horribly
3766
01:18:06,480 –> 01:18:06,490
worse I mean I’ve been in some horribly
3767
01:18:06,490 –> 01:18:08,100
worse I mean I’ve been in some horribly
dangerous situations and I’m sitting
3768
01:18:08,100 –> 01:18:08,110
dangerous situations and I’m sitting
3769
01:18:08,110 –> 01:18:10,170
dangerous situations and I’m sitting
right here and others did not come home
3770
01:18:10,170 –> 01:18:10,180
right here and others did not come home
3771
01:18:10,180 –> 01:18:14,010
right here and others did not come home
and it’s it’s one of the difficult or
3772
01:18:14,010 –> 01:18:14,020
and it’s it’s one of the difficult or
3773
01:18:14,020 –> 01:18:16,200
and it’s it’s one of the difficult or
sad parts of the job but now you take
3774
01:18:16,200 –> 01:18:16,210
sad parts of the job but now you take
3775
01:18:16,210 –> 01:18:17,640
sad parts of the job but now you take
today’s philosophy and it’s just
3776
01:18:17,640 –> 01:18:17,650
today’s philosophy and it’s just
3777
01:18:17,650 –> 01:18:20,300
today’s philosophy and it’s just
different they don’t look at the CIA
3778
01:18:20,300 –> 01:18:20,310
different they don’t look at the CIA
3779
01:18:20,310 –> 01:18:24,600
different they don’t look at the CIA
operations cadre as the the core value
3780
01:18:24,600 –> 01:18:24,610
operations cadre as the the core value
3781
01:18:24,610 –> 01:18:27,450
operations cadre as the the core value
of the agency like I go back to pilots
3782
01:18:27,450 –> 01:18:27,460
of the agency like I go back to pilots
3783
01:18:27,460 –> 01:18:30,270
of the agency like I go back to pilots
in this in in the Air Force picture with
3784
01:18:30,270 –> 01:18:30,280
in this in in the Air Force picture with
3785
01:18:30,280 –> 01:18:32,130
in this in in the Air Force picture with
your background I think you’ll relate to
3786
01:18:32,130 –> 01:18:32,140
your background I think you’ll relate to
3787
01:18:32,140 –> 01:18:35,040
your background I think you’ll relate to
this I mean if you lemonade that Corps
3788
01:18:35,040 –> 01:18:35,050
this I mean if you lemonade that Corps
3789
01:18:35,050 –> 01:18:37,200
this I mean if you lemonade that Corps
of experienced pilots out of the Air
3790
01:18:37,200 –> 01:18:37,210
of experienced pilots out of the Air
3791
01:18:37,210 –> 01:18:39,270
of experienced pilots out of the Air
Force what you got well I mean you’re
3792
01:18:39,270 –> 01:18:39,280
Force what you got well I mean you’re
3793
01:18:39,280 –> 01:18:41,340
Force what you got well I mean you’re
taking something huge away and the
3794
01:18:41,340 –> 01:18:41,350
taking something huge away and the
3795
01:18:41,350 –> 01:18:43,290
taking something huge away and the
traditions and learning and background
3796
01:18:43,290 –> 01:18:43,300
traditions and learning and background
3797
01:18:43,300 –> 01:18:44,850
traditions and learning and background
and tricks of the trade and all of those
3798
01:18:44,850 –> 01:18:44,860
and tricks of the trade and all of those
3799
01:18:44,860 –> 01:18:47,190
and tricks of the trade and all of those
things and what they’ve done now is
3800
01:18:47,190 –> 01:18:47,200
things and what they’ve done now is
3801
01:18:47,200 –> 01:18:48,660
things and what they’ve done now is
they’ve gone with a philosophy that is
3802
01:18:48,660 –> 01:18:48,670
they’ve gone with a philosophy that is
3803
01:18:48,670 –> 01:18:49,890
they’ve gone with a philosophy that is
that these people are just
3804
01:18:49,890 –> 01:18:49,900
that these people are just
3805
01:18:49,900 –> 01:18:51,900
that these people are just
interchangeable and like I said you can
3806
01:18:51,900 –> 01:18:51,910
interchangeable and like I said you can
3807
01:18:51,910 –> 01:18:54,180
interchangeable and like I said you can
find papers written by retired see you
3808
01:18:54,180 –> 01:18:54,190
find papers written by retired see you
3809
01:18:54,190 –> 01:18:56,850
find papers written by retired see you
see a people that have come out and said
3810
01:18:56,850 –> 01:18:56,860
see a people that have come out and said
3811
01:18:56,860 –> 01:18:59,040
see a people that have come out and said
well you know the market is changed and
3812
01:18:59,040 –> 01:18:59,050
well you know the market is changed and
3813
01:18:59,050 –> 01:19:01,020
well you know the market is changed and
we’ll just change the the Millennials
3814
01:19:01,020 –> 01:19:01,030
we’ll just change the the Millennials
3815
01:19:01,030 –> 01:19:02,310
we’ll just change the the Millennials
and all of this they don’t come into
3816
01:19:02,310 –> 01:19:02,320
and all of this they don’t come into
3817
01:19:02,320 –> 01:19:04,890
and all of this they don’t come into
career jobs they come and go so that’s
3818
01:19:04,890 –> 01:19:04,900
career jobs they come and go so that’s
3819
01:19:04,900 –> 01:19:06,510
career jobs they come and go so that’s
sort of the prevailing philosophy now
3820
01:19:06,510 –> 01:19:06,520
sort of the prevailing philosophy now
3821
01:19:06,520 –> 01:19:07,590
sort of the prevailing philosophy now
and that’s the way they view it is
3822
01:19:07,590 –> 01:19:07,600
and that’s the way they view it is
3823
01:19:07,600 –> 01:19:09,240
and that’s the way they view it is
people coming so you go in for a few
3824
01:19:09,240 –> 01:19:09,250
people coming so you go in for a few
3825
01:19:09,250 –> 01:19:11,100
people coming so you go in for a few
years you like it you stay for a little
3826
01:19:11,100 –> 01:19:11,110
years you like it you stay for a little
3827
01:19:11,110 –> 01:19:12,750
years you like it you stay for a little
couple more years and then you leave to
3828
01:19:12,750 –> 01:19:12,760
couple more years and then you leave to
3829
01:19:12,760 –> 01:19:14,520
couple more years and then you leave to
go on to something else somebody else
3830
01:19:14,520 –> 01:19:14,530
go on to something else somebody else
3831
01:19:14,530 –> 01:19:17,340
go on to something else somebody else
will come in and replace you so I would
3832
01:19:17,340 –> 01:19:17,350
will come in and replace you so I would
3833
01:19:17,350 –> 01:19:18,930
will come in and replace you so I would
say it’s part of the reason why they
3834
01:19:18,930 –> 01:19:18,940
say it’s part of the reason why they
3835
01:19:18,940 –> 01:19:21,600
say it’s part of the reason why they
look so philosophically at those people
3836
01:19:21,600 –> 01:19:21,610
look so philosophically at those people
3837
01:19:21,610 –> 01:19:23,570
look so philosophically at those people
billing in Khost
3838
01:19:23,570 –> 01:19:23,580
billing in Khost
3839
01:19:23,580 –> 01:19:26,660
billing in Khost
I take that personally I don’t like it
3840
01:19:26,660 –> 01:19:26,670
I take that personally I don’t like it
3841
01:19:26,670 –> 01:19:28,430
I take that personally I don’t like it
I’ve attracted on everybody involved
3842
01:19:28,430 –> 01:19:28,440
I’ve attracted on everybody involved
3843
01:19:28,440 –> 01:19:29,750
I’ve attracted on everybody involved
with that thing and make sure they don’t
3844
01:19:29,750 –> 01:19:29,760
with that thing and make sure they don’t
3845
01:19:29,760 –> 01:19:31,760
with that thing and make sure they don’t
you know they have a bad day that’s the
3846
01:19:31,760 –> 01:19:31,770
you know they have a bad day that’s the
3847
01:19:31,770 –> 01:19:33,260
you know they have a bad day that’s the
way that needs to be done those people
3848
01:19:33,260 –> 01:19:33,270
way that needs to be done those people
3849
01:19:33,270 –> 01:19:36,170
way that needs to be done those people
need to be eliminated it’s just the way
3850
01:19:36,170 –> 01:19:36,180
need to be eliminated it’s just the way
3851
01:19:36,180 –> 01:19:38,270
need to be eliminated it’s just the way
the world works it’s not an easy place
3852
01:19:38,270 –> 01:19:38,280
the world works it’s not an easy place
3853
01:19:38,280 –> 01:19:39,860
the world works it’s not an easy place
to live sometimes there’s got to be
3854
01:19:39,860 –> 01:19:39,870
to live sometimes there’s got to be
3855
01:19:39,870 –> 01:19:41,390
to live sometimes there’s got to be
people out there like I said living in
3856
01:19:41,390 –> 01:19:41,400
people out there like I said living in
3857
01:19:41,400 –> 01:19:41,810
people out there like I said living in
the dark
3858
01:19:41,810 –> 01:19:41,820
the dark
3859
01:19:41,820 –> 01:19:43,630
the dark
serving the light making shots to the
3860
01:19:43,630 –> 01:19:43,640
serving the light making shots to the
3861
01:19:43,640 –> 01:19:45,560
serving the light making shots to the
civilians in the streets of the United
3862
01:19:45,560 –> 01:19:45,570
civilians in the streets of the United
3863
01:19:45,570 –> 01:19:47,000
civilians in the streets of the United
States that are tracked down and killed
3864
01:19:47,000 –> 01:19:47,010
States that are tracked down and killed
3865
01:19:47,010 –> 01:19:49,880
States that are tracked down and killed
and that sometimes requires you know
3866
01:19:49,880 –> 01:19:49,890
and that sometimes requires you know
3867
01:19:49,890 –> 01:19:52,460
and that sometimes requires you know
things be done now this interchangeable
3868
01:19:52,460 –> 01:19:52,470
things be done now this interchangeable
3869
01:19:52,470 –> 01:19:54,170
things be done now this interchangeable
people come and go and all of that sort
3870
01:19:54,170 –> 01:19:54,180
people come and go and all of that sort
3871
01:19:54,180 –> 01:19:56,360
people come and go and all of that sort
of stuff what are they they’re they’re
3872
01:19:56,360 –> 01:19:56,370
of stuff what are they they’re they’re
3873
01:19:56,370 –> 01:19:58,700
of stuff what are they they’re they’re
they’re expendable and I think that’s
3874
01:19:58,700 –> 01:19:58,710
they’re expendable and I think that’s
3875
01:19:58,710 –> 01:20:01,400
they’re expendable and I think that’s
why philosophically that nobody looked
3876
01:20:01,400 –> 01:20:01,410
why philosophically that nobody looked
3877
01:20:01,410 –> 01:20:04,310
why philosophically that nobody looked
on with or at though the bombing in
3878
01:20:04,310 –> 01:20:04,320
on with or at though the bombing in
3879
01:20:04,320 –> 01:20:06,320
on with or at though the bombing in
coasts and that’s not the only example I
3880
01:20:06,320 –> 01:20:06,330
coasts and that’s not the only example I
3881
01:20:06,330 –> 01:20:07,520
coasts and that’s not the only example I
mean there’s there’s people getting
3882
01:20:07,520 –> 01:20:07,530
mean there’s there’s people getting
3883
01:20:07,530 –> 01:20:09,530
mean there’s there’s people getting
killed there starts going on the wall at
3884
01:20:09,530 –> 01:20:09,540
killed there starts going on the wall at
3885
01:20:09,540 –> 01:20:11,480
killed there starts going on the wall at
headquarters which is bit for people who
3886
01:20:11,480 –> 01:20:11,490
headquarters which is bit for people who
3887
01:20:11,490 –> 01:20:13,220
headquarters which is bit for people who
don’t know it at the headquarters of the
3888
01:20:13,220 –> 01:20:13,230
don’t know it at the headquarters of the
3889
01:20:13,230 –> 01:20:15,980
don’t know it at the headquarters of the
CIA there’s a wall with the Stars four
3890
01:20:15,980 –> 01:20:15,990
CIA there’s a wall with the Stars four
3891
01:20:15,990 –> 01:20:19,480
CIA there’s a wall with the Stars four
people have been killed and instrumental
3892
01:20:19,480 –> 01:20:19,490
people have been killed and instrumental
3893
01:20:19,490 –> 01:20:23,750
people have been killed and instrumental
duty and the stars are going to put
3894
01:20:23,750 –> 01:20:23,760
duty and the stars are going to put
3895
01:20:23,760 –> 01:20:28,010
duty and the stars are going to put
alarming rate well I don’t think anybody
3896
01:20:28,010 –> 01:20:28,020
alarming rate well I don’t think anybody
3897
01:20:28,020 –> 01:20:30,140
alarming rate well I don’t think anybody
does Brad and lik it’s it’s blood and
3898
01:20:30,140 –> 01:20:30,150
does Brad and lik it’s it’s blood and
3899
01:20:30,150 –> 01:20:33,170
does Brad and lik it’s it’s blood and
treasure and I don’t think our country
3900
01:20:33,170 –> 01:20:33,180
treasure and I don’t think our country
3901
01:20:33,180 –> 01:20:36,380
treasure and I don’t think our country
you know again I know the siene is a
3902
01:20:36,380 –> 01:20:36,390
you know again I know the siene is a
3903
01:20:36,390 –> 01:20:38,810
you know again I know the siene is a
secretive somewhat organization it’s
3904
01:20:38,810 –> 01:20:38,820
secretive somewhat organization it’s
3905
01:20:38,820 –> 01:20:40,310
secretive somewhat organization it’s
under care like you said y’all serve in
3906
01:20:40,310 –> 01:20:40,320
under care like you said y’all serve in
3907
01:20:40,320 –> 01:20:44,330
under care like you said y’all serve in
the dark just to serve light and you
3908
01:20:44,330 –> 01:20:44,340
the dark just to serve light and you
3909
01:20:44,340 –> 01:20:45,980
the dark just to serve light and you
know but I don’t think the country
3910
01:20:45,980 –> 01:20:45,990
know but I don’t think the country
3911
01:20:45,990 –> 01:20:48,400
know but I don’t think the country
appreciates the CIA as much as it should
3912
01:20:48,400 –> 01:20:48,410
appreciates the CIA as much as it should
3913
01:20:48,410 –> 01:20:53,450
appreciates the CIA as much as it should
because a lot of the reasons behind some
3914
01:20:53,450 –> 01:20:53,460
because a lot of the reasons behind some
3915
01:20:53,460 –> 01:20:55,340
because a lot of the reasons behind some
of these full terrorist attacks that
3916
01:20:55,340 –> 01:20:55,350
of these full terrorist attacks that
3917
01:20:55,350 –> 01:20:57,350
of these full terrorist attacks that
have like I don’t know the number since
3918
01:20:57,350 –> 01:20:57,360
have like I don’t know the number since
3919
01:20:57,360 –> 01:20:59,270
have like I don’t know the number since
9/11 but there’s been a myriad of them
3920
01:20:59,270 –> 01:20:59,280
9/11 but there’s been a myriad of them
3921
01:20:59,280 –> 01:21:01,670
9/11 but there’s been a myriad of them
that we we stopped before they actually
3922
01:21:01,670 –> 01:21:01,680
that we we stopped before they actually
3923
01:21:01,680 –> 01:21:04,790
that we we stopped before they actually
took place here in America and I have no
3924
01:21:04,790 –> 01:21:04,800
took place here in America and I have no
3925
01:21:04,800 –> 01:21:06,350
took place here in America and I have no
doubt in my mind that that was because
3926
01:21:06,350 –> 01:21:06,360
doubt in my mind that that was because
3927
01:21:06,360 –> 01:21:09,740
doubt in my mind that that was because
CIA II had actually found information
3928
01:21:09,740 –> 01:21:09,750
CIA II had actually found information
3929
01:21:09,750 –> 01:21:12,020
CIA II had actually found information
and got intelligence that that kept
3930
01:21:12,020 –> 01:21:12,030
and got intelligence that that kept
3931
01:21:12,030 –> 01:21:14,570
and got intelligence that that kept
those attacks from taking place and I
3932
01:21:14,570 –> 01:21:14,580
those attacks from taking place and I
3933
01:21:14,580 –> 01:21:16,610
those attacks from taking place and I
know they again the relationship with
3934
01:21:16,610 –> 01:21:16,620
know they again the relationship with
3935
01:21:16,620 –> 01:21:18,380
know they again the relationship with
him and the FBI has always been sort of
3936
01:21:18,380 –> 01:21:18,390
him and the FBI has always been sort of
3937
01:21:18,390 –> 01:21:23,180
him and the FBI has always been sort of
a little you know word I’m looking for
3938
01:21:23,180 –> 01:21:23,190
a little you know word I’m looking for
3939
01:21:23,190 –> 01:21:26,720
a little you know word I’m looking for
it’s been a little checkered because of
3940
01:21:26,720 –> 01:21:26,730
it’s been a little checkered because of
3941
01:21:26,730 –> 01:21:28,310
it’s been a little checkered because of
the you know there was a block I mean
3942
01:21:28,310 –> 01:21:28,320
the you know there was a block I mean
3943
01:21:28,320 –> 01:21:30,290
the you know there was a block I mean
before President Bush 9/11 I mean I
3944
01:21:30,290 –> 01:21:30,300
before President Bush 9/11 I mean I
3945
01:21:30,300 –> 01:21:32,780
before President Bush 9/11 I mean I
understand that you know there was not a
3946
01:21:32,780 –> 01:21:32,790
understand that you know there was not a
3947
01:21:32,790 –> 01:21:35,300
understand that you know there was not a
lot of information sharing and that’s
3948
01:21:35,300 –> 01:21:35,310
lot of information sharing and that’s
3949
01:21:35,310 –> 01:21:37,010
lot of information sharing and that’s
what sort of the Patriots
3950
01:21:37,010 –> 01:21:37,020
what sort of the Patriots
3951
01:21:37,020 –> 01:21:39,050
what sort of the Patriots
to open the door to do was that the
3952
01:21:39,050 –> 01:21:39,060
to open the door to do was that the
3953
01:21:39,060 –> 01:21:40,640
to open the door to do was that the
agencies could share information want to
3954
01:21:40,640 –> 01:21:40,650
agencies could share information want to
3955
01:21:40,650 –> 01:21:41,720
agencies could share information want to
know that which I think that’s a good
3956
01:21:41,720 –> 01:21:41,730
know that which I think that’s a good
3957
01:21:41,730 –> 01:21:44,270
know that which I think that’s a good
thing how that stands now but as we
3958
01:21:44,270 –> 01:21:44,280
thing how that stands now but as we
3959
01:21:44,280 –> 01:21:47,120
thing how that stands now but as we
bring this to a close again I I just I
3960
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bring this to a close again I I just I
3961
01:21:47,130 –> 01:21:48,730
bring this to a close again I I just I
want to just tell our audience what
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01:21:48,730 –> 01:21:48,740
want to just tell our audience what
3963
01:21:48,740 –> 01:21:51,560
want to just tell our audience what
honor it’s been to have Brad tonight and
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01:21:51,560 –> 01:21:51,570
honor it’s been to have Brad tonight and
3965
01:21:51,570 –> 01:21:53,900
honor it’s been to have Brad tonight and
we need to and I’m sure that you folks
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01:21:53,900 –> 01:21:53,910
we need to and I’m sure that you folks
3967
01:21:53,910 –> 01:21:55,520
we need to and I’m sure that you folks
are doing down here in your comments but
3968
01:21:55,520 –> 01:21:55,530
are doing down here in your comments but
3969
01:21:55,530 –> 01:21:57,490
are doing down here in your comments but
we need to thank Brad and all of our CIA
3970
01:21:57,490 –> 01:21:57,500
we need to thank Brad and all of our CIA
3971
01:21:57,500 –> 01:21:59,840
we need to thank Brad and all of our CIA
officials for the job that they do and
3972
01:21:59,840 –> 01:21:59,850
officials for the job that they do and
3973
01:21:59,850 –> 01:22:02,000
officials for the job that they do and
keeping our nation safe and I got one
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01:22:02,000 –> 01:22:02,010
keeping our nation safe and I got one
3975
01:22:02,010 –> 01:22:05,030
keeping our nation safe and I got one
final question for you okay platon all
3976
01:22:05,030 –> 01:22:05,040
final question for you okay platon all
3977
01:22:05,040 –> 01:22:08,510
final question for you okay platon all
show to ask this and my audience will
3978
01:22:08,510 –> 01:22:08,520
show to ask this and my audience will
3979
01:22:08,520 –> 01:22:11,780
show to ask this and my audience will
understand the depth of heart that this
3980
01:22:11,780 –> 01:22:11,790
understand the depth of heart that this
3981
01:22:11,790 –> 01:22:14,720
understand the depth of heart that this
question is coming from and only you
3982
01:22:14,720 –> 01:22:14,730
question is coming from and only you
3983
01:22:14,730 –> 01:22:16,490
question is coming from and only you
would know Brad Johnson because you’re
3984
01:22:16,490 –> 01:22:16,500
would know Brad Johnson because you’re
3985
01:22:16,500 –> 01:22:18,410
would know Brad Johnson because you’re
you’ve been in the CIA this long is
3986
01:22:18,410 –> 01:22:18,420
you’ve been in the CIA this long is
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01:22:18,420 –> 01:22:23,880
you’ve been in the CIA this long is
Elvis alive I just want to know that
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01:22:23,890 –> 01:22:33,940
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01:22:33,940 –> 01:22:33,950
3991
01:22:33,950 –> 01:22:41,260
will cheer a serious interview I had
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01:22:41,260 –> 01:22:41,270
will cheer a serious interview I had
3993
01:22:41,270 –> 01:22:45,350
will cheer a serious interview I had
because it is but going back to being
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01:22:45,350 –> 01:22:45,360
because it is but going back to being
3995
01:22:45,360 –> 01:22:48,670
because it is but going back to being
serious a little bit all sly for the CIA
3996
01:22:48,670 –> 01:22:48,680
serious a little bit all sly for the CIA
3997
01:22:48,680 –> 01:22:51,550
serious a little bit all sly for the CIA
people don’t talk about it and it’s sad
3998
01:22:51,550 –> 01:22:51,560
people don’t talk about it and it’s sad
3999
01:22:51,560 –> 01:22:53,840
people don’t talk about it and it’s sad
because you all are putting your life on
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01:22:53,840 –> 01:22:53,850
because you all are putting your life on
4001
01:22:53,850 –> 01:22:56,930
because you all are putting your life on
the line and I do appreciate I know I
4002
01:22:56,930 –> 01:22:56,940
the line and I do appreciate I know I
4003
01:22:56,940 –> 01:23:00,890
the line and I do appreciate I know I
know I’m used immensely but you guys
4004
01:23:00,890 –> 01:23:00,900
know I’m used immensely but you guys
4005
01:23:00,900 –> 01:23:02,630
know I’m used immensely but you guys
hope we can bring you back in again
4006
01:23:02,630 –> 01:23:02,640
hope we can bring you back in again
4007
01:23:02,640 –> 01:23:04,730
hope we can bring you back in again
again friend it’s been nice doing this
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01:23:04,730 –> 01:23:04,740
again friend it’s been nice doing this
4009
01:23:04,740 –> 01:23:06,200
again friend it’s been nice doing this
today it’s been a great interview and I
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01:23:06,200 –> 01:23:06,210
today it’s been a great interview and I
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01:23:06,210 –> 01:23:08,120
today it’s been a great interview and I
hope you’re open to us coming back on
4012
01:23:08,120 –> 01:23:08,130
hope you’re open to us coming back on
4013
01:23:08,130 –> 01:23:09,410
hope you’re open to us coming back on
the Mac files and talking again and
4014
01:23:09,410 –> 01:23:09,420
the Mac files and talking again and
4015
01:23:09,420 –> 01:23:11,810
the Mac files and talking again and
we’ll if something breaks and the CIA
4016
01:23:11,810 –> 01:23:11,820
we’ll if something breaks and the CIA
4017
01:23:11,820 –> 01:23:14,060
we’ll if something breaks and the CIA
community will we’ll bring you back in
4018
01:23:14,060 –> 01:23:14,070
community will we’ll bring you back in
4019
01:23:14,070 –> 01:23:17,420
community will we’ll bring you back in
to chat again very soon I hope you’ve
4020
01:23:17,420 –> 01:23:17,430
to chat again very soon I hope you’ve
4021
01:23:17,430 –> 01:23:19,310
to chat again very soon I hope you’ve
enjoyed this like we have all right
4022
01:23:19,310 –> 01:23:19,320
enjoyed this like we have all right
4023
01:23:19,320 –> 01:23:21,080
enjoyed this like we have all right
thanks so much we’ve been talking to
4024
01:23:21,080 –> 01:23:21,090
thanks so much we’ve been talking to
4025
01:23:21,090 –> 01:23:24,140
thanks so much we’ve been talking to
Brad Johnson he’s a retired CIA officer
4026
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Brad Johnson he’s a retired CIA officer
4027
01:23:24,150 –> 01:23:26,090
Brad Johnson he’s a retired CIA officer
he’s also the president of America’s
4028
01:23:26,090 –> 01:23:26,100
he’s also the president of America’s
4029
01:23:26,100 –> 01:23:28,670
he’s also the president of America’s
Americans for intelligence reform his
4030
01:23:28,670 –> 01:23:28,680
Americans for intelligence reform his
4031
01:23:28,680 –> 01:23:31,160
Americans for intelligence reform his
website is entail reform gorg I
4032
01:23:31,160 –> 01:23:31,170
website is entail reform gorg I
4033
01:23:31,170 –> 01:23:34,270
website is entail reform gorg I
encourage you to visit that website and
4034
01:23:34,270 –> 01:23:34,280
encourage you to visit that website and
4035
01:23:34,280 –> 01:23:36,650
encourage you to visit that website and
ideas there way people can contact you
4036
01:23:36,650 –> 01:23:36,660
ideas there way people can contact you
4037
01:23:36,660 –> 01:23:38,780
ideas there way people can contact you
directly Brad on the website to the
4038
01:23:38,780 –> 01:23:38,790
directly Brad on the website to the
4039
01:23:38,790 –> 01:23:40,700
directly Brad on the website to the
middle schools I want you to contact
4040
01:23:40,700 –> 01:23:40,710
middle schools I want you to contact
4041
01:23:40,710 –> 01:23:42,200
middle schools I want you to contact
Brad tonight if you’re listening to this
4042
01:23:42,200 –> 01:23:42,210
Brad tonight if you’re listening to this
4043
01:23:42,210 –> 01:23:43,670
Brad tonight if you’re listening to this
interview I want you to let him know how
4044
01:23:43,670 –> 01:23:43,680
interview I want you to let him know how
4045
01:23:43,680 –> 01:23:46,670
interview I want you to let him know how
much you appreciate his work and what he
4046
01:23:46,670 –> 01:23:46,680
much you appreciate his work and what he
4047
01:23:46,680 –> 01:23:48,980
much you appreciate his work and what he
means to you as our listeners we got a
4048
01:23:48,980 –> 01:23:48,990
means to you as our listeners we got a
4049
01:23:48,990 –> 01:23:50,390
means to you as our listeners we got a
real family here
4050
01:23:50,390 –> 01:23:50,400
real family here
4051
01:23:50,400 –> 01:23:51,860
real family here
had this listening to this there there
4052
01:23:51,860 –> 01:23:51,870
had this listening to this there there
4053
01:23:51,870 –> 01:23:53,510
had this listening to this there there
are great people these are Patriots that
4054
01:23:53,510 –> 01:23:53,520
are great people these are Patriots that
4055
01:23:53,520 –> 01:23:55,070
are great people these are Patriots that
are listening tonight I guarantee you
4056
01:23:55,070 –> 01:23:55,080
are listening tonight I guarantee you
4057
01:23:55,080 –> 01:23:57,200
are listening tonight I guarantee you
and they have appreciated everything you
4058
01:23:57,200 –> 01:23:57,210
and they have appreciated everything you
4059
01:23:57,210 –> 01:23:58,850
and they have appreciated everything you
said that we appreciate you again coming
4060
01:23:58,850 –> 01:23:58,860
said that we appreciate you again coming
4061
01:23:58,860 –> 01:23:59,600
said that we appreciate you again coming
on the program
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01:23:59,600 –> 01:23:59,610
on the program
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01:23:59,610 –> 01:24:01,729
on the program
Chris McDonald’s likes with the mac
4064
01:24:01,729 –> 01:24:01,739
Chris McDonald’s likes with the mac
4065
01:24:01,739 –> 01:24:04,070
Chris McDonald’s likes with the mac
files broadcast we thank you for joining
4066
01:24:04,070 –> 01:24:04,080
files broadcast we thank you for joining
4067
01:24:04,080 –> 01:24:05,540
files broadcast we thank you for joining
us tonight we hope you’ve enjoyed this
4068
01:24:05,540 –> 01:24:05,550
us tonight we hope you’ve enjoyed this
4069
01:24:05,550 –> 01:24:07,160
us tonight we hope you’ve enjoyed this
god bless you god bless your families
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01:24:07,160 –> 01:24:07,170
god bless you god bless your families
4071
01:24:07,170 –> 01:24:08,630
god bless you god bless your families
and God bless this great nation of
4072
01:24:08,630 –> 01:24:08,640
and God bless this great nation of
4073
01:24:08,640 –> 01:24:11,600
and God bless this great nation of
America say a prayer for the CIA and say
4074
01:24:11,600 –> 01:24:11,610
America say a prayer for the CIA and say
4075
01:24:11,610 –> 01:24:13,220
America say a prayer for the CIA and say
a prayer for our nation constantly and
4076
01:24:13,220 –> 01:24:13,230
a prayer for our nation constantly and
4077
01:24:13,230 –> 01:24:14,750
a prayer for our nation constantly and
we appreciate you joining us have a good
4078
01:24:14,750 –> 01:24:14,760
we appreciate you joining us have a good
4079
01:24:14,760 –> 01:24:21,410
we appreciate you joining us have a good
night everybody
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01:24:21,410 –> 01:24:21,420
4081
01:24:21,420 –> 01:24:47,640
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[Music]
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01:24:57,590 –> 01:25:33,150
[Music]
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[Music]
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[Music]
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