Americans for Intelligence Reform

Brad Johnson, President, and retired CIA Senior Officer and Chief of Staff. Insight into current events from an intelligence angle.

Weekly Arab language update by Barry Webb, retired NSA Arabist, author and senior fellow at AIR

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Barry web it is May the 4th and this is

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hopefully the first of the series of

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Arabic news summary reports you were a

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translator and Arabist for the NSA for

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25 years is that right that is correct

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and so I’m guessing that you have on

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behalf of the public been continuing

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your work of translating various

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relevant and important news from the

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Arab media since then so let’s have at

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it what have you got

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ok this most of this comes from last

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weekend the 28th and 29th of April but

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these events are still going on so still

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relevant we’ll start with the Qatar

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based al-jazeera TV channel on the 28th

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of April reported the view that the

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Israelis and the United Arab Emirates

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UAE

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and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia kia KSA

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are pushing the trump administration

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into a war with iran and on the libyan

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issue al jazeera gave a full on the same

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day gave a full 1/2 hour air time to a

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spokesperson for the UN recognized

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syrettes government and tripoli the

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spokespersons main point was at the

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Siraj government would never negotiate

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with general heft are for your listeners

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who aren’t aware of this particular

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situation in libya the general heft are

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who controls benghazi in most of East

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Libya has recently launched an attack

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against the capital city of Tripoli in

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the west of Libya which is run by this

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Siraj government which is UN recognized

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also on the same day from the same

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channel al-jazeera urban Graham said

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that he would defend Tripoli from

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attacked at all cost and now that’s

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important as it will come up later and

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another channel this is MBC Egypt

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popular Egyptian talk-show hosts on

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Druid Abe interviewed

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in general of Mudd Masari who is the

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spokesperson for the heft aria group he

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reported that turkey is conveying and no

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sir a terrorist into Libya the loser

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organization is an al-qaeda branch ace

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in Syria so he’s the Turks are her

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conveying these terrorists into Tripoli

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to aid this rights government Elmas mari

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also claimed that mercenaries from chad

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and other countries have joined the

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tripoli militia groups on another story

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I’m Rudy reported that Turkey is also

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playing games in the Sudan as well you

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know again for your listeners who may

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not know there’s an Arab Spring type

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situation going on here in Sudan right

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now also on the 20th of April l20

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reported that in Khartoum there were

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protests in front of the Egyptian

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embassy protesting Egyptian in

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interference on the next day the 29th of

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April the Saturday on

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Dubey based a larger be a TV channel

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reported that there were protests in

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front of an Islamist office in Khartoum

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in apparently response for the turkey

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Shah for the protests against the

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Egyptians the Arab Spring 2.0 also broke

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out of Tunisia which was the birthplace

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of the first Arab Spring in 2011 after

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government forces killed several farmers

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the crowd shouted as shabbiha read as

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Clinton the song which means that people

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want to bring down the regime which was

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the slogan used across the Arab world

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during the first Arab Spring Egypt State

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newspaper al Haram quoted President

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assisi telling the Italian leader in a

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recent meeting that Egypt supports

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general heft are in Libya and will never

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negotiate with terrorism a reference to

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the Siraj government in Tripoli

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gotta change pages here back to the MBC

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NBC channel NBC Egypt the popular

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Egyptian talk-show hosts

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armored Adeeb reported that this is on

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the 20th of April reported that during

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the battle for Triple E channel Hefner’s

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army captured some Turkey’s soldiers

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also on the 29th of April our via TV

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reported that one of the militia groups

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from Tripoli went to Iran seeking a

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weapons deal on the 30th of April an

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extremist run media outlet elfric lon

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released a picture of Isis leader about

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Maddy which was then shown on most of

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the world’s TV outlets and that’s

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significant because he’s been he’s been

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absent for five years no one has seen

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him now

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last night I picked up some new items

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and this came from the al-arabiya

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channel

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saudi-owned channel and a program called

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snapped amount which means industry of

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death and there reported that this is

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this program other male deals with

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terrorism and related issues each week

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and they report that Iranian there’s an

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Iranian alliance between Iranian

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intelligence and local criminals in

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Europe the rainiest are using this

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alliance to assassinate opponents of the

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Iranian regime and of course is no

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outrage at all by the West you know oh

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three may L RB also reported that Tunis

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has extended this emergency status for

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the month of May

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that’s because of the Arab Spring

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uprisings there

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Ellis’s hero reports the yo on the 3rd

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of May that one of the talking heads on

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there was a guest one of the talk shows

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called behind the news claimed that

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France is supplying weapons to heft our

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we’d reported earlier that

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French troops had been noted fighting on

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behalf of the heft art group probably s

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advisors

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so now we have another report showing

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that they are providing equipment then

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on the 4th of May L Arabiya reported

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that Turkey is using the port at Misrata

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which is a town just east of Tripoli in

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order to supply Tripoli with weapons and

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etc so that’s the the news items that’s

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great thanks I’d like to dig into a

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couple of those little deeper if it’s at

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all possible I’ve certainly seen a lot

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of like sitreps

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go by on what’s happening in Sudan and

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they don’t really add really enlighten

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me a lot I mean is it are we talking

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about this sort of already Arab Muslim

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North Sudan are we talking about the the

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newly-minted

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animus South Sudan and if it’s North

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Sudan it was all it when you say it’s an

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Arab Spring type situation you means

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that more classically religious

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authentic Muslims are trying to uproot

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the totalitarian dictatorship of North

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Sudan is that what’s going on there

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yeah first of all answer your first

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question it is Sudan proper which is

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North Sudan I suppose

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South Sudan is basically a Christian you

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know obser and that’s why they became

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independent Sudan proper is primarily

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Islamic now most of the Arab Spring

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events even in our spring the first Arab

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Spring in 2011 many of them started as

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legitimate protests against tyranny

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against the dictators but then once the

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protests get started within the Muslim

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Brotherhood and once it get started in

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it it looks like they’re having you know

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getting headway then the brother head

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moves in and takes over because they’re

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basically the only organized group

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besides the military now in Sudan

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what we have is yes you

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huge uprising oh my god the shots I see

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on TV you know the streets are just

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filled with people but the fact that

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we’ve had two separate protests while I

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protest against the Egyptian embassy and

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then the following day in protest

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against the Turkish embassy so it looks

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like there are two factions within the

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people that are protesting and both of

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these groups have protested the previous

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regime headed by L Bashir who was a real

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a real jerk off a caricature in a sacri

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a Cohan film about so anyway L Bashir is

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gone in several and through several of

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us henchmans and the remaining we

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business leaders are trying to

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reestablish order now my feeling is and

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you’re right on this I think that when

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all is said and done that the Muslim

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Brotherhood will take over that movement

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the revolution if you will yeah they’re

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clearly desperate to establish a

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physical Caliphate somewhere now that

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they’ve lost it in Syria and ovine right

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yes Betty but here’s the other angle

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because I mentioned also in these news

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reports that Turkey is playing games in

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the Sudan also you’ve got Turkey sending

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weapons and containing troops into

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Tripoli aiding the islamist tripoli

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government you’ve also got an Arab

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Spring movement a huge one taking place

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in Algeria just massive massive crowds

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in every city you can and they’re the

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protesters are claiming that they want a

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democratic system with no military

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control and no religious control but

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once again I think when my little said

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and done that is it is the Brotherhood

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Islamist that won’t be taking over there

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– and I wouldn’t be surprised to find

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Turkey involved there – because all of

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these territories were once part of the

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old Ottoman Empire and early guy has

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this ambition of you know really

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creating this Ottoman Empire sure looks

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like it yep

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that happens say an apology if the

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Islamists take over and although these

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countries that are currently experience

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an Arab Spring type situation or civil

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war like we have in Libya Scalia bad

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news for Egypt is they’re caught in the

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middle and Scobie bad news for Israel

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because turkey is already occupied parts

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of northern Syria and ever-increasing

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parts of Iraq yeah

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turkey is Turkey is definitely looking

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for that manifest destiny and they

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appear to be they appear to be a Muslim

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brother at entry anyway well yeah like I

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think I’m the last interview we had I

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mentioned that the ruling party in

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Turkey the AKP is a clone of the

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Brotherhood and they in fact yeah it

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seems to me that that the brother had

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moved from Egypt to Turkey yes mostly

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yeah a lot of how many of the Egyptian

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Muslim Brotherhood personnel had moved

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to Turkey and they they claimed that

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there’s something like 2,000 media

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personnel Egyptian media a Muslim

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Brotherhood personnel in Turkey and

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Turkey has been broadcasting radio and

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TV shows 24/7 into Egypt trying to do a

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stir up the population you know one of

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this might be it may or may not be worth

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researching for you but one of our

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translators speculated that the reason

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that there are suddenly all this these

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charges these sexual abuse charges

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against the Muslim Brotherhood’s grant

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founders grandson which is tariq

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ramadhan it’s because he made a public

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statement that he was opposed to air21

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and he was opposed to her to one sort of

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being the leader of the Brotherhood is

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at work and suddenly all these charges

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appeared where he was guilty he was a

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different Muslim women were accusing him

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of sexual impropriety and one of our

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translators speculated that this is

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because he he didn’t he wasn’t going

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along with which would make sense since

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his grandfather was Hassan al-banna who

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was the Egyptian founder that probably

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felt the belong

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what do you think good yeah I had not

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heard that he had said that he didn’t

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want an arrow and to take control of the

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movement but that would make sense and

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that herb ago and we’ll certainly

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consider tariq ramadhan as as a threat

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being the grandson of hassan al-banna

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so yeah i could see the turks playing

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games there to try to take him out in

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some way i want to mention one more

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thing about this brand designed for the

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you know the for the turks to resurrect

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the ottoman empire as the kata fate the

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spirits are guided of the current

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spiritual guide of the muslim

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brotherhood disavowing who is based on

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in a cloud tire and works with elves and

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sarah he’s got a weekly program there

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he’s basically said that that urban wine

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is the hope of all muslims and even

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called him used the term you know i’m

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here what money which means literally

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prince of the faithful but it’s a term

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that they always used to use the Middle

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Ages for the Kamath so it’s basically in

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other words heard that we the spiritual

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head of the Muslim Brotherhood

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nationally internationally has basically

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blessed ordered went as the coming Calif

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al-qaradawi mean Elkhart now he has

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blessed early where the coming chaos yes

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the coming killer

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wow that’s significant news I am I am I

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am I’m shocked I didn’t know that and

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please do I do now thank you very much

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Barry web for this weekly update from

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the arab news it is the kind of thing

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that we you know west so desperately

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need

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