In light of so many issues surfacing about the election, will anything be done to investigate and reveal any irregularities before the inauguration? There may or may not have been enough evidence, but we’d still like to know.
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and welcome to today’s edition of dr
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carol’s couch i’m your psychiatrist host
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dr cara lieberman today
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is going to be one of the most important
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shows that i have done
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not only because of uh my guest
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but because of what is going on in
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america the craziness
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that is going on and
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that has surpassed all the past
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craziness that we have had
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so today’s show is called does president
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trump
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have an ace up his sleeve
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the clock is ticking we have been
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hearing all kinds of words in the media
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online
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um just all around us driving you know
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making our heads spin
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like election insurrection sedition
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impeachment treason all of these words
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and at the same time half of america
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is still hoping that president trump
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does have an ace of his leave
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and i must say i am one of them he has
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managed to pull out aces
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over the last four years when a lot of
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people would have counted him out
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and so perhaps he has another one just
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one more we
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need um now we have
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uh more people really kind of shocking
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we’ve seen in the last week or so
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people who we thought were his allies
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like vice president
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pence and senate majority leader mitch
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mcconnell
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have um i don’t know what
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what has happened to them but it’s like
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the shakespeare play julius caesar where
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julius caesar says when he
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sees brutus also is in line to stab him
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a2 brute and of course nancy pelosi
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who must have the goods on a lot of
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people
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in congress i cannot believe that this
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woman who
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who really is has begun to show um
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signs not unlike biden
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but anyhow she uh continues to reign
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over congress and at least over certain
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people in congress and she has
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um just been reelected and she is
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continuing to try to exert more power
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and so then she must know where a lot of
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bones are buried or else she would have
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been
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out of there years ago so where does
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president trump go from here
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will he be impeached will he found
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found unfit via the 25th amendment and
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of course
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uh and i have volunteered by the way to
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testify
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on behalf of him to show effect from as
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a psychiatrist as a forensic
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psychiatrist
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that he is not unfit in any kind of
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psychiatric way
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or will he overturn the election by
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finally invoking
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the order on foreign interference in
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elections
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that he created uh or
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in 2018 this is not just uh you know
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just yesterday because of what happened
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with the election
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so my guest is the perfect person to
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answer all of these questions
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his name is brad johnson he’s a former
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cia
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officer and the founder and president of
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americans for intelligence reform
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he is a voice of reason in these
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crazy times so welcome to the show brad
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thank you so very much it’s great to be
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with you
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now i know you’ve been uh active while
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all of this has been going on
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and why don’t you just give us before we
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sort of get into details why don’t you
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just
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give us kind of a general impression uh
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that you have of everything as of today
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well uh unfortunately as you know i’m
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i’m like you in the sense that i still
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hold out a
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a level of hope that somehow president
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trump can turn this around but
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um it’s just that every second that goes
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by of of every day
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reduces the odds of anything like that
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happening i believe
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there’s certainly information out there
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there’s a lot of evidence and and uh
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some very strong uh conclusive evidence
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proof
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that uh in in the elections there were
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some
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some shenanigans going on that it was
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not an honest election and
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if taken as a whole some of these things
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would almost certainly turn around a
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couple of these states but
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uh overall i would say you know the real
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problem that
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president trump has much like in the
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example that you were talking about with
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julius caesar and back in ancient roman
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days
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is pretty much everybody is is turned
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against him and is stabbing him in the
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back and
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you know of course mainstream media has
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long hated trump you know well before he
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even became president
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the democrats have always derided you
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know him as an individual and
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the republican party unfortunately the
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the blue blood the rhino the you know
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the
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the bush uh
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faction of the republican party all
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greatly dislike him and
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unfortunately many of those people are
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the ones that that he has surrounded
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himself in his
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in his administration so i think his
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greatest single problem is
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that he’s uh kind of been left on his
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his own is he has many supporters among
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the public
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but he doesn’t have many supporters in
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government
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and so it makes it difficult for him to
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just get anything
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done and you know i can certainly give
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you example after example but
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uh he gave orders for certain documents
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to be declassified because it
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it shows the the scam that was run
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against him
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in the mueller investigation and the
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fisa warrant and some other things like
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that
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and according to the federalists they’ve
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written about this extensively
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it’s being blocked personally by
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the sea the current cia director gina
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haspel so
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uh it’s just one of those things where
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he doesn’t have enough
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help around him to get him through this
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so i think it makes it
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untenable for the president no matter
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what the evidence is and we’ve seen
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a very important aspect of this is his
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activism i mean we’ve talked about
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activist judges but
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almost nobody mentions you know activist
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intelligence officers and
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activist department of justice
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prosecutors and activist law enforcement
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at the fbi
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but at senior leadership levels that’s
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who’s there they’re all activists
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and that that definition of what what
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that is is so very important under
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today’s circumstances it’s just so clear
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as to the problems it creates and that
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is an activist
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judge or law enforcement or or
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prosecutor uh or intelligence officer
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an activist is someone who puts his
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personal
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or her personal political beliefs first
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and the laws and the constitution are
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second
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or third and so that’s what we see these
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cases
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that president had trump has brought for
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example his lawyer giuliani
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uh has brought a number of cases for
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example they
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took a list of of the people who
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deceased in the some of these counties
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compared them against the voting rolls
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and i think in one case found 17 000
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dead people who voted well that’s a
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problem and that’s a significant number
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and that starts to turn around that
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county on the votes
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and it’s it’s it’s uh not being heard in
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court he can’t get that in front of a
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judge they all refuse to
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let that be a case they just get thrown
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out summarily without even being
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looked at based on the merit and that
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was what
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what the last ditch effort was what
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people were hoping vice president pence
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would do
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and that would have forced the
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government to take a look at all the
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evidence that’s all just give it its day
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in court it didn’t do
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it didn’t make a decision what it
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allowed was for for
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for president trump to have his day in
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court lay out all the proof of
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everything that he had all the evidence
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that he had
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at a court standard where it had to meet
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all the
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the demands of a court for evidence and
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for proof and
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and meet all those legal requirements to
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be used
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and that’s been denied the president
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triple along and and that’s by the
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activists that we see
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at department of justice the fbi uh
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in the intelligence world and with the
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judges even the supreme court
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they threw out the the case raised by
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texas
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with nineteen states signing on and the
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supreme court
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is you know widely uh it’s widely agreed
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that the supreme court is obligated to
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look at cases
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where states sue states and yet they
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through that of course saying they had
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no standing which means
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we’re not looking at your case we’re not
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even considering it and that ultimately
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is the real problem
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president trump i believe that he i
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think he would look back at the
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beginning of his
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his administration and uh do a lot of
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stuff differently
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and start surrounding himself with the
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people out in the united states
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who have the right experience but are
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patriots
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and instead i think what he tried to do
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is make peace with
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uh the the rhino faction if i can just
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call it that in a general term
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the rhino faction of the republican
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party when he surrounded himself with
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reince priebus for example and um
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and brought in other people from the
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bush administration including
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um the attorney general barr who came
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out of the bush administration and he
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he surrounded himself with those people
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hoping to make peace with all of them
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and
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and that they would come around to hit
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to see that he was trying to do the best
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thing he could
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for the united states of america but
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that’s not how politics work
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that’s how business works maybe but
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that’s not how politics in dc work
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well because these people are
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are because they’re looking out for
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their own
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power and or because they are making
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money behind the scenes from places like
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china
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yes and yes i mean all of those things i
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mean it’s it’s
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it’s one of those things that like both
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mike pence and mike pump
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or i’m sorry of the vice president pence
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and mike pompeo the secretary of state
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uh have both in many ways you know pence
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probably more but both
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both have turned on president trump to
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one degree or another and and one of the
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main reasons
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they do it is because they’re both
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ambitious they both are
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clearly lining up to run for president
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2024 and
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i’ve always basically you know been been
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working towards that goal
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and so for them to
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i from their perspective they do not
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want to fall on their sword
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um in order to protect trump and help
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trump
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because they know that that or they
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believe at least that that would destroy
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their chances
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to become president in 2024 i mean
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that’s why they’re doing it
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and that’s that that personal ambition
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to become president and
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you know it’s the problem with who’s in
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dc i’ll even say i mean even
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in in the conservative world the
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activists are out there i’m i’m very
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near washington dc here i’m in virginia
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but i go to the meetings i’m in the
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circles and those things
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and and i would say ninety percent of
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the people in in the kind of
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activist conservative world they also
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have their own
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um you know
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their their own things they want to
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achieve and goals that they have that in
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many cases are personal
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sometimes it’s money sometimes it’s
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influence you know you you never know
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it’s usually power and money
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it’s uh i i joke i say it’s it’s almost
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always power and money behind it so if
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you follow the
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power stream and follow the money that’s
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it although every once in a while it
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sucks but usually it’s power and money
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and uh i think that that humans are
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humans and you see that there the number
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of people that are
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actually patriots that don’t have a
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particular agenda
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other than to try and support president
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trump because president trump has been a
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good president for the u
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s uh that’s a very small country of
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people
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but a very important example
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which i consider myself and we’re very
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active in this area
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and we’re still fighting that to help
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trump i don’t
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know that we can win but that’s no
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reason not to fight
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well you know um i mean it has
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boggles my mind as one court after
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another
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has refused to especially the supreme
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court and especially the three judges
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that trump picked and went through hell
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to get on the supreme court
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how they could not um vote to hear the
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texas case or
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or you know to do something
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and these lower courts also like one
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after the other after the other and even
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with
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well even with republican uh
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judges and so on it just i mean it’s
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like
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it’s like a concerted effort to block
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trump it is and i agree that that’s
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exactly what it is
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and it’s a combination of factors it is
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the washington dc elites
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that we should all distrust and frankly
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dislike because
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they’re selfish self-serving no good
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nicks
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and uh that is a that is a huge faction
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here that encompasses both parties
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to a large degree and also we have of
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course the democratic party that
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philosophically now
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they’re uh people call them you know
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liberals and progressives and socialists
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and communists but that’s all one
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thing and i don’t care which of those
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terms you want to use but
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there’s no difference between a
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progressive and a liberal and a
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communist and socialist that’s
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you know maybe some little piece of
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philosophy here there
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but that’s how they are they hate a guy
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like trump it’s business
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and they want control over the economy
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united states so they hate him
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and there’s personal things i mean the
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bush family
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their mother passed away following the
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elect following
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the the primary were where trump won and
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jeb bush was essentially crossed early
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on
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and jeb bush was so heavily criticized
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by president trump and
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called names and things like that that
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it really made their mother angry
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and she passed away shortly after that
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well i mean she was a woman in her 90s
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and i’ll have to say
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i think it’s very unreasonable that they
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do that but they
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they publicly you know blame trump for
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her death because of the way he treated
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uh jeb bush but she she’d had
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a son be president of the united states
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that was
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you know just broiled by the media
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you know daily they hated him called him
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stupid in every name in the book
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and her husband had also been president
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and he was heavily
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criticized by the press so i find it
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personally very unlikely
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that she would have been any more upset
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by what
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president trump during you know during
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the uh
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before he became president uh called jeb
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bush
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compared to how her other son and her
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husband
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so i just find it unlikely but that’s
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why people take things personally
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well this is just like what’s happening
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now
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where they are using the storming of the
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capital
15:51
you know blaming that on trump and using
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it as an excuse
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to go full force against trump when as i
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know you know
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and and for my listeners um
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uh you need to look up or perhaps i can
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read it later but if not you
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you need to look up what he i watched
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from morning early in the morning till
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late at night i watched the whole day
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the whole i
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watched his speech i watched everything
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unfold
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and um that he did not say there was not
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one word about
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commit violence destroy property steal
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things he did not say that he said to go
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peacefully
16:30
and he mainly wanted to have a presence
16:33
he wanted the people in congress
16:35
to see how many thousands of people
16:38
believed that the election was a fraud
16:40
was stolen
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and as it indeed was but and i want to
16:45
get to that some of the things like the
16:47
italian thing and so on
16:49
um and the various issues with that but
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i i want to just say
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what what i’m really you know i can
16:56
remember
16:57
during all this i mean it’s hard to
16:58
sleep when it feels like our country
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is just sinking in in quicksand um
17:04
and i keep thinking of this image from
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when i was i don’t know 12 years old or
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something and a girl scout after i had
17:10
been a brownie right
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and we were at this big um ceremony in
17:15
queens
17:16
and with the american flag and the flag
17:19
bearers and you know it was all very
17:21
um patriotic and passionate and all that
17:24
and i remember the feeling that i had
17:26
and certainly many times over
17:29
uh feeling so patriotic and feeling you
17:31
know and loving my country and wanting
17:33
to do things for my country and so on
17:35
and which is part of why i became the
17:37
terrorist therapist after 9 11 but
17:39
that’s a whole other tangent
17:41
um but anyhow and
17:45
i never would have expected and i’m sure
17:47
the majority of the people in the united
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states
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other than those who were just born
17:51
perhaps in the last 20 years
17:53
um the majority even some of them the
17:56
majority of the people
17:58
who learned real history in school
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not what’s going on now um
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wouldn’t have believed in a million
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years that some of the things that are
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happening
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now are happening like the censoring
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the censoring of trump in the in the
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mainstream media the censoring by the
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tech companies
18:18
um the the his being uh impeached or you
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know they’re
18:23
presenting um presenting impeachment
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uh articles now the trying to invoke the
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25th amendment
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uh no court seeing the evidence etc etc
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etc
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i mean this is just not something we
18:37
could have ever even imagined
18:39
and and with this underlying what let me
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just
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what i’m most concerned about is that
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people don’t
18:46
get the big picture that this is all
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about
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the um the left the con yeah like you
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were just saying the
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all of these things are together the
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progressives the socialists the
18:57
communists america there are people
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but in the government who are trying to
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turn america
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into a communist country and this is all
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part of it so whether you like trump or
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you don’t like trump
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that really pales in comparison to the
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overall
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um trajectory of where some of the
19:15
people in washington want this country
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to go which is
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towards socialism and communism
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[Music]
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and welcome back to dr carroll’s couch
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where we’re talking today
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about does president trump have an ace
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up his sleeve
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my guest today is brad johnson he is
19:32
also a columnist at epic times
19:35
and he provides interviews for oann and
19:40
other media outlets he retired
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from the cia as a senior operations
19:46
officer
19:46
and chief of station and he served in
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support of the war on terrorism
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and he’s also a certified senior expert
19:53
in counter-intelligence and
19:55
in surveillance issues so all of these
19:57
things are particularly relevant to what
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we are talking about today
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so i know i kind of went on but um
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but i am very concerned about this and
20:07
and helping people to get the big
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picture that this isn’t something which
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that people just woke up and after
20:13
january 6 you know all the people who
20:15
hated trump said oh let’s get trump and
20:17
and all these things have fallen into
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place it was obviously way before then
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and people need to understand that there
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is this big
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this much bigger uh thing afoot in terms
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of turning the us
20:27
into a socialist or communist country
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so go ahead by i just um why don’t you
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just give us your opinion on on what i
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was saying
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sure there was um a couple of things in
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particular
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and one about the the turning uh
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to the extreme left with a communist
20:46
socialist type state here
20:48
in the united states you can you can see
20:50
how it’s headed that direction what does
20:52
that mean i mean it means
20:53
a one-party state that’s what those
20:56
totalitarian
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leftist governments are it only allows
20:59
one party to run and control everything
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at times they permit other small parties
21:05
to hold a few seats
21:06
and they’re you know they’re called the
21:08
loyal opposition loyal opposition
21:10
meaning
21:10
they’re still loyal to the same
21:12
communist party but they’re in
21:14
opposition
21:15
so uh that’s that’s what the democrats
21:18
are lining up for and
21:19
i think you know i think it’s difficult
21:22
really for any rational person
21:25
to look at the voting results and see
21:27
how there’s these huge
21:28
jumps just all of a sudden from nowhere
21:31
uh
21:31
in favor of the democrats joe biden
21:33
during the general election and most
21:35
recently in georgia for the two
21:37
senate races where there’s just suddenly
21:38
this big vertical jump and
21:40
you know statistically in the way things
21:42
work that just isn’t possible
21:44
so i i i just don’t see how any rational
21:47
person
21:48
who you know takes any sort of honest
21:51
look at the data
21:52
cannot conclude something’s wrong with
21:54
the election
21:55
uh so it
21:59
it’s one of those things that you just
22:00
have to conclude
22:02
that the election was manipulated and if
22:04
it was manipulated then it was stolen
22:06
and i have to say human nature is what
22:09
it is and being up
22:11
uh you know the part of the espionage
22:14
arm of the cia
22:15
the operations officer you know you
22:17
would always look at human nature and
22:19
and uh
22:20
and need to try to calculate that into
22:22
the people you were dealing with and you
22:23
had to be able to judge those things
22:25
well something you that you as a doctor
22:27
would be
22:28
extraordinarily familiar with and i’ll
22:30
just have to say and i’m sure you’ll
22:32
agree with me that
22:33
human nature is not going to allow
22:35
democrats once they’ve tasted
22:37
this power to control who wins elections
22:42
once they’ve tasted that have had it in
22:44
their hands they will
22:45
never ever let it go they’re going to
22:48
use it time after time after time
22:50
which i believe we saw in georgia and
22:52
they’re never going to stop
22:55
yes yes absolutely i mean that’s it
22:58
it’s not just about trump it’s about
23:00
elections
23:02
going from from now on i mean and so why
23:05
it’s so frustrating why don’t people
23:06
well i mean we know why people don’t
23:08
realize that um because
23:10
the mainstream media tells them
23:11
otherwise
23:13
absolutely correct and now we’re
23:15
starting to see them chipping away just
23:17
and
23:17
one of the other things you mentioned
23:18
too is trump absolutely and i’ve
23:21
listened to the speech
23:22
a number of times of where president
23:25
trump told
23:25
the demonstrators to go peacefully down
23:28
to the
23:29
capitol and cheer for those people that
23:31
were supporting him
23:32
and you know try to put you know
23:34
pressure on everybody public
23:36
demonstration pressure which is what
23:38
demonstrations
23:39
do that’s why everyone has had them
23:42
since the beginning of time i suppose
23:44
but certainly here in the united states
23:45
in modern history that’s why people do
23:47
them is to bring
23:48
public pressure to bear on politicians
23:51
and that’s what he asked them to do
23:54
and i think in large part it was you
23:56
know as the democrats like to say it was
23:58
it was a mostly peaceful demonstration
24:01
and there were many thousands of people
24:02
and only a few ended up
24:03
inside and of those i mean there’s a lot
24:06
of information out there
24:07
some of them were antifa that were doing
24:09
the most damage and there was a couple
24:11
points there where some of the
24:12
trump supporters were saying you know
24:14
these guys doing that stuff that’s not
24:15
part of us that’s antifa
24:17
that you know that’s a different group
24:18
they’re not with us
24:20
and um so the basis of what now people
24:24
are talking about for impeachment saying
24:25
that the
24:26
basically that the president tried to
24:28
overthrow the government by you know
24:30
sending all these demonstrators down
24:31
there to attack and all of that is
24:33
complete and utter nonsense as
24:35
nonsense it has no basis in fact nor
24:37
does the impeachment have any basis in
24:39
law
24:40
today uh uh dershowitz came out
24:43
for the the lawyer who is a
24:47
uh constitutional uh expert came out
24:50
and i think he’s been hired by the
24:52
president i’m not sure of that part but
24:54
he spoke very eloquently and very
24:56
clearly on this exact subject and said
24:59
there’s zero basis in law for the uh
25:02
house to try and
25:03
impeach president trump there’s nothing
25:05
he said there that incited violence
25:08
and in fact he implored the the people
25:10
to be peaceful
25:11
and so there’s no basis for it so again
25:14
it’s the same thing it’s just one of
25:15
those indicators like you’ve said
25:17
they you know the democrats in
25:19
particular
25:20
uh all thought that hillary clinton
25:23
should have won but hillary clinton was
25:25
not a good candidate nobody likes her
25:26
she’s
25:27
kind of a nasty piece of work from what
25:29
everybody says even democrats don’t
25:31
particularly like her
25:32
even if they like her politics so they
25:35
had a very poor candidate who just got
25:37
beat and that’s something that’s driven
25:40
them
25:41
you know absolutely nuts but they
25:42
thought she was going to win and deserve
25:44
to win and etc etc etc so
25:46
they have not not slowed down trying to
25:50
attack president trump they were going
25:52
to impeach him on that ukraine
25:54
phone call uh certainly the mueller
25:57
investigation
25:59
you know now this thing with that
26:00
demonstration where a small number of
26:02
people got out of control
26:04
or to some degree got out of control
26:06
there’s also videos of the
26:08
capitol police letting those people just
26:10
walk in you can see the police standing
26:11
against the wall
26:13
just watching the guys walk in and they
26:14
just waltzed faster
26:16
i think that is so so interesting
26:19
because um what do you make of that i
26:22
mean to me
26:23
um the police and the even from the
26:26
national guard and
26:27
they know that trump is on their side so
26:30
they wanted to help the people who were
26:32
coming in
26:34
yeah there were some photographs these
26:35
guys are getting in trouble now but
26:37
there were some photographs there of the
26:39
capitol police taking selfies with
26:41
demonstrators in there
26:43
the one thing that’s very interesting
26:45
and there’s many rumors to this effect
26:47
is that there was a small group of
26:49
people that actually had a very uh
26:52
specific plan and that they went in and
26:55
they
26:55
took nancy pelosi’s laptop now that
26:58
if true is very interesting uh
27:02
that would have been in the rumors are i
27:05
you know
27:05
i don’t know this personally i don’t
27:06
know the people that did it don’t know
27:08
if this is true or not but
27:10
i find it very interesting and what
27:11
people are saying
27:13
is that that group was somebody who were
27:16
people had specific experience in this
27:19
thing these type
27:20
of operations and had specific
27:22
experience and exploiting computers
27:25
and that they went in with a with an
27:27
absolute plan to grab that computer knew
27:29
where to
27:30
find it and got it out and are
27:33
exploiting
27:34
it now now if if in the scheme of things
27:36
there were anything in there that could
27:38
be useful
27:39
uh to save trump in some way to show
27:43
some of the shenanigans that nancy
27:45
pelosi has been up to especially if it
27:47
was illegal
27:48
uh that would be something that would be
27:51
of major importance now
27:53
i also say i mean one of the things that
27:55
kind of makes me think
27:57
there’s a good possibility or a
27:59
possibility this is all true
28:01
is nancy pelosi’s reactions to all of
28:03
this because
28:04
she’s just coming unglued and this stuff
28:07
is kind of irrational where she wants to
28:09
impeach trump again so for me it’s like
28:12
she’s desperately
28:13
you know throwing mud in every direction
28:15
to kind of dissimilate what’s going on
28:17
so i actually believe that there’s a
28:20
chance that is
28:20
true and there are some other things
28:23
there’s a lot of information coming out
28:25
right now again
28:26
off of the hunter biden laptop the
28:28
photographs are starting
28:30
to resurface of the emails
28:33
are all resurfacing again and some of
28:35
these have been
28:36
looked at and there’s there’s some some
28:38
pretty good analysis on it and some of
28:39
these photographs
28:41
i’ve seen are pretty suggestive it looks
28:45
like
28:45
you know him with underage girls in a
28:49
in a sexual relationship of some sort
28:52
that’s
28:52
that’s what it looks like but uh you
28:55
know all that remains to be seen
28:56
if
29:03
but but what is taking people so long
29:06
why i mean you know hunter buys this
29:08
computer was
29:10
was brought to giuliani i don’t know
29:12
months ago now
29:14
and the post put um stories about it and
29:17
that you know
29:18
and and um the tech companies wouldn’t
29:21
let it
29:21
dissimilate over the internet and so on
29:23
but but we’ve had these for a while now
29:25
nancy pelosi’s computer is another story
29:28
but time is ticking and i’m just
29:30
worrying
29:31
about how you know how um
29:34
like i don’t know something has to
29:36
happen before january 20th is that not
29:38
true before the inauguration
29:41
well yes i mean if it’s to save the
29:44
trump presidency
29:45
specifically yeah it would absolutely
29:47
have to occur before then once
29:48
once biden is sworn in uh the only way
29:52
to get rid of him
29:53
well i mean if they might use the 25th
29:55
amendment and call him see now
29:57
you know take him out that way or he
29:58
might resign based for health freeze
30:00
based on health reasons and but
30:02
either way kamala harris would then
30:03
become president the only way to get
30:05
them both out would be to impeach
30:08
based on fraudulent election that would
30:10
do it
30:12
but that’s going to be an awfully tough
30:13
thing to do with them in control of the
30:15
house and the senate
30:16
so i think two years from now is the
30:18
first opportunity for that
30:19
realistically and that’s only if the
30:21
republicans can regain control of the
30:23
of the house and the senate well let’s
30:27
um one thing i want to talk uh
30:30
talk about for sure the one thing i’ve
30:32
been kind of holding on to
30:34
until just now you know and i was just
30:37
reading that earlier today about nancy
30:38
pelosi’s computer
30:40
so that and the the um
30:43
italy i’ve done a number of tweets about
30:45
italy did it
30:47
in fact i mentioned you in one of those
30:49
tweets um
30:51
that tell us about this whole uh amazing
30:55
thing that has you know everything is
30:57
coming out the last minute right
30:59
but tell us about that yes i’ve done a
31:02
series of
31:02
of interviews on on the italian thing
31:05
the
31:05
the basic uh scenario is this
31:09
that the voting machines were all hooked
31:12
up to the internet which by the way
31:14
the people from the company that
31:16
produced and supplied the voting
31:17
machines
31:18
testified to congress that those
31:20
machines were indeed hooked up to the
31:22
internet
31:22
so it’s confirmed by them that that’s
31:25
true
31:26
so these machines were hooked up to the
31:27
internet when they saw
31:30
that evening of the election that trump
31:32
was clearly winning and winning
31:34
in enormous numbers because if you look
31:36
at the numbers that trump did
31:38
they were way above what he did in 2016
31:42
and i don’t think anyone anticipated
31:44
that so the algorithms that were set up
31:47
to manipulate the election weren’t
31:50
working because they were overwhelmed by
31:52
the large numbers that trump
31:54
was running so that’s why those five or
31:57
six
31:57
critical states all more or less
31:59
simultaneously
32:01
shut down uh the counting and and
32:03
basically shut down the election
32:05
at that point and it was so they could
32:07
recalibrate so
32:09
those all the voting data that then was
32:12
sent via internet to those famous
32:14
servers in germany
32:16
and then over to rome and at the
32:19
embassy in rome uh the u.s embassy in
32:22
rome that’s where they had a nerf you
32:24
know a
32:24
control center set up to handle all of
32:26
this some data scientists come in
32:29
apparently there’s some photographs
32:31
floating around of of
32:32
them and it’s apparently mi6 data
32:35
scientists on loan to the cia
32:37
that’s the information that’s available
32:39
on it and that they were the ones in the
32:41
embassy in rome
32:42
uh actually manipulating the data to
32:44
recreate algorithms and
32:46
and and calculate how many you know how
32:48
many biden votes had to be manufactured
32:51
to make it all work then that data was
32:55
encrypted sent back up through a
32:56
satellite belonging to
32:58
a large military contracting company
33:01
owned
33:02
in part by the italian government called
33:04
leonardo
33:06
that then over that satellite was back
33:08
down the same method
33:10
when that change in data hit
33:13
back in the united states on those
33:15
voting machines that’s where you see
33:17
that vertical line that goes straight up
33:19
with almost 100 percent biden votes only
33:23
then the algorithms were reset and
33:26
and and and uh and they went ahead and
33:29
went forward and it just kept
33:31
fighting ahead at a steady rate from
33:33
there on out
33:34
now people have talked about the paper
33:36
ballots and things but
33:38
uh in all of those cases i believe with
33:40
no exception
33:41
one of the things that was done early on
33:44
that they weren’t supposed to do
33:46
is they separated the ballots from the
33:48
envelopes
33:49
the envelopes are what had the signature
33:51
of the voter on them
33:53
and the proof that it was an actual
33:55
voter who cast that ballot
33:57
those were all thrown away and all they
33:59
did was keep the paper ballot
34:01
then so once these once these numbers
34:04
had been
34:05
messed with and adjusted to give biden
34:07
the the edge
34:10
we see videos of this is another thing
34:12
that came out that giuliani put out
34:14
was there was that video of that big
34:16
trunk being pulled out with
34:18
with you know thousands of ballots that
34:21
were nev didn’t come in a
34:23
envelope they were just ballots they’re
34:24
all stacked up there that were of course
34:26
all for biden so i mean it’s it’s to me
34:29
in my mind it seems fairly clear that
34:31
this is how this was done
34:33
now they’re supposed to be quite a
34:34
little bit of proof of this in italy
34:35
we’ve had
34:36
lawyers come out and testify a judge
34:38
came out and testified
34:40
we’ve had somebody from leonardo confess
34:42
publicly that
34:43
he he helped manipulate these numbers so
34:46
there’s a
34:47
a growing body of evidence out there
34:50
that this is all true
34:51
and now uh the liberals
34:54
and and the mainstream media and and the
34:58
social media are now pushing back very
35:00
hard on that and they’re saying it’s all
35:02
been debunked but
35:04
you know two points on that first of all
35:06
they don’t they don’t have
35:08
anything that that
35:11
proves in to any degree
35:14
that this scenario that i’ve laid out is
35:16
false they’re just saying it’s false
35:18
they don’t have any evidence or proof
35:20
to show that it’s false but i would also
35:23
say well how can you
35:24
actually say that it’s a lie like what
35:27
i’m presenting here the scenario i’m
35:29
presenting
35:30
how can you say that’s a lie when it’s
35:31
never been and been to court
35:33
fine let’s take it to court let’s let
35:36
all of the evidence stack up against
35:38
each other
35:39
in a court of law where there’s rules
35:41
and regulations as to how evidence is
35:43
presented
35:44
what counts as evidence what doesn’t and
35:46
let’s have let’s have our day in court
35:48
and then we’ll see yeah
35:49
if if it’s proven wrong then you can say
35:52
it’s a lie
35:53
but now for example
35:56
what they can on social media like
35:58
youtube has taken down all my videos on
36:00
that subject
36:01
and some of those were just doing
36:02
hundreds of thousands of views
36:04
all over the world and now that’s all
36:06
being attacked now i’ve got
36:08
alternate systems on my website which is
36:10
intelreform.org
36:12
by the way uh that video is still up so
36:15
all of the information is still
36:16
available but we’re under assault
36:19
for all of that uh by mainstream media
36:22
and by social media yes
36:25
um we we need to take a break now but
36:28
yes
36:29
yes and yes my guest is brad johnson
36:32
and yes his uh um his uh
36:36
the website is intel i’m sorry i said
36:38
that again
36:39
in intel
36:43
oh yes yes yes until i have it now um
36:46
and i’ll give it to you at the end of
36:47
the show again folks so
36:49
um and welcome back
36:52
to dr carol couch where we’re talking
36:54
today about
36:55
does president trump have an ace up his
36:57
sleeve and
36:58
i certainly hope he does uh we’re
37:01
talking about some of the
37:02
impossible you know it seems
37:04
overwhelming
37:06
this concerted effort that um as we’ve
37:09
said
37:09
did not just start on january 6th after
37:12
the
37:13
uh capital was stormed which they are
37:16
uh erroneously trying to blame on trump
37:19
but it started years and years and years
37:22
ago
37:22
and now it’s like uh somebody lit uh lit
37:25
the fire lit the tinder
37:27
and it’s all coming out against trump
37:30
now what about let’s talk about the 2018
37:35
um evidence of voter fraud
37:39
uh order foreign interference with vote
37:42
with voting um is that the ace up the
37:46
sleeve
37:46
is he going to be able why what’s he
37:48
waiting for
37:50
well this is one of the reasons why i i
37:52
mean i have a kind of a series of small
37:54
things that lead me to conclude that
37:56
president trump won’t try to invoke any
37:59
of those things but certainly
38:00
the voter interference it was an
38:02
executive order that he
38:04
signed in 2018 and there are
38:07
previous laws that tie into that
38:11
i if he invoked those sorts of things it
38:14
would depend on
38:16
you know precisely how he did it but it
38:18
would be sort of a
38:19
a circumstance where you would
38:20
essentially have martial law of one sort
38:22
of another
38:23
because he’d be invalidating through
38:25
that
38:26
the entire election and then would have
38:28
to you know have another vote or do
38:30
something
38:31
and as i said earlier i think the
38:35
problem with that entire scenario
38:38
is that that is not something that
38:41
i think president trump has the power to
38:44
make happen anymore
38:46
because so many people aren’t supporting
38:48
him
38:49
within his own administration and many
38:51
of the people i’ve resigned and left the
38:53
uh
38:54
chad wolf who was the head of dhs uh
38:56
resigned i believe today
38:58
and we’ve seen uh the attorney general
39:00
resign at christmas and
39:02
i think in many of those cases that is
39:05
not an accident
39:06
i think they’re doing it on purpose to
39:08
some degree to
39:10
get out keep themselves clean and leave
39:12
trump in a kind of a lame duck position
39:14
where he doesn’t have anyone
39:16
really around him that that maintains
39:19
that authority that can
39:21
that could actually do any of these
39:23
things
39:25
okay but the director of national
39:27
intelligence
39:29
ratcliffe has said that he believes
39:32
that there was interference from china
39:36
iran
39:36
and russia in this past election
39:40
and um i mean he said that a while ago
39:44
in december at least if not before and
39:47
uh and presumably trump knows about the
39:50
man in italy the man
39:52
i want to make this part clear part of
39:54
this is that the man who actually
39:56
uh pulled the trigger so to speak who
39:59
um who was the one who was directed to
40:03
do something he was a senior i.t person
40:06
and he did the uh he literally pushed
40:09
the whatever he’s
40:10
not attacked for him but he literally
40:12
clicked on something or whatever it is
40:14
however he had to do it
40:15
um from orders from above to indeed
40:19
uh make to do the changes that you just
40:21
talked about to
40:22
uh through the internet connections and
40:24
so on
40:25
and um and so trump hopefully knows
40:29
about that
40:30
and so between that and ratcliffe saying
40:33
that there was this interference why
40:34
can’t trump just invoke
40:36
um this this um foreign
40:40
interference um executive order
40:44
well uh i i don’t believe that he has
40:48
the wherewithal to enforce it is what i
40:50
was trying to say
40:51
who would he call upon that would if if
40:54
everyone just
40:55
didn’t pay attention to him saying that
40:57
what would he do
40:59
you know where would the where would the
41:00
enforcement power come from and i don’t
41:03
think he has any of that
41:05
to work with anymore
41:09
are not going to support him congress is
41:11
not going to support him
41:12
you know ghs is not going to support him
41:14
i mean
41:15
who does he have that would actually
41:17
support that
41:19
but does he have to have i mean first of
41:22
all can he just appoint
41:24
new people in the key one or two or
41:26
three positions that would
41:28
have to enact that or couldn’t he call
41:30
um
41:31
you know call up the national guard
41:33
himself or
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i don’t know all the mechanisms but it
41:37
would seem that if there is this
41:39
executive order that
41:41
that he could put some here he could
41:43
find three people who would be loyal to
41:45
him
41:46
um to be in those positions
41:51
well i think it’s now it’s it’s a
41:52
question of time i
41:54
i just don’t think there’d be time to
41:55
get all of that done uh
41:57
i mean we’ve only got a few days before
41:59
the 20th at this point
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and i i will say there’s another thing
42:02
that leads me to conclude that the
42:04
president has never wanted to do that
42:06
and uh one of the reasons i say that is
42:09
is based on
42:10
a general flynn a general flynn uh was
42:13
meeting with the president regularly up
42:15
until about maybe
42:16
10 days ago uh and he was one of the
42:19
individuals pushing very hard
42:22
for for trump to take an action of that
42:25
sort and to call marshall to declare
42:28
martial
42:28
law that was specifically what general
42:31
flynn was
42:32
publicly pushing for was martial law
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and and as a result about a week ago
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uh that kind of exploded in arguments at
42:42
the white house
42:43
and general flynn hasn’t been invited
42:45
back since
42:46
so i i think that he him pushing that
42:49
argument so
42:51
hard with president trump finally pissed
42:53
them off a little bit and he just said
42:54
okay
42:55
enough get out and so i take that
42:58
personally now it’s not
43:00
necessarily proof but i take that as a
43:02
strong indicator that
43:03
it’s just a consideration that
43:07
president trump is just not going to do
43:09
he just
43:10
does not want to take any sort of
43:14
martial law act or invoking
43:16
the executive order on foreign
43:18
interference or things like that
43:19
and and the reason i believe he doesn’t
43:21
want to consider it
43:23
is because as i said i just don’t think
43:25
he has
43:26
he does not have the support of his own
43:27
party he doesn’t have the support of of
43:30
many of the agencies in his
43:31
administration
43:32
and he’s got absolute enemies to the
43:35
death with mainstream media
43:36
social social media the democratic party
43:40
you know the only real constituency he
43:42
has are the
43:43
are we the people the voters and and you
43:46
know
43:46
what are we going to do storm storm the
43:48
capitol building i mean it’s
43:50
what are our options well you know this
43:53
i mean you know that there
43:54
are they are expecting people to storm
43:56
all the capitals in all 50 states
43:58
um between now and the inauguration but
44:01
i
44:01
just trump doesn’t surrender and he said
44:04
he was never going to concede and he
44:05
hasn’t literally conceded and i just
44:08
think i mean maybe like nancy pelosi was
44:11
desperate and she’s doing what she’s
44:12
doing um i would think that maybe
44:15
general flynn’s ideas will seem more
44:18
attractive
44:19
as trump is running out of other ideas
44:24
well my understanding is that uh what
44:27
what
44:27
trump is doing and planning to do is uh
44:31
go into the media business um
44:34
after leaving office in january
44:38
and there’s maneuvering going on behind
44:40
the scenes by people
44:42
uh who have come out of media but were
44:45
involved in his campaign and things like
44:47
that
44:48
that are are planning to launch into
44:50
that new media empire with trump
44:53
yeah you know yes i i
44:57
i mean i’ve heard of that too but that
44:59
is kind of
45:00
well i’ve heard of that too um i already
45:03
sent my resume
45:06
you’re not laughing okay no i didn’t
45:09
know i’m sure i’m sure they need people
45:13
that you know
45:14
are out in that market doing that type
45:16
of work if he doesn’t so
45:19
you get a good job and give me a call
45:23
okay but that but that is a bit as much
45:26
as i would like that that
45:27
is a big risk you know for to wait four
45:29
years
45:30
um to run again i mean i thought he
45:32
wouldn’t necessarily be elected and of
45:34
course
45:34
that’s why nancy pelosi wants him
45:36
impeached so that he wouldn’t be able to
45:38
uh be elected or
45:40
be accused of sedition and be in jail
45:42
for 20 years
45:43
um but you know it’s just kind of i’m
45:45
besides i i think he loves america too
45:48
much
45:49
to let america suffer for four years
45:53
well i i hope there is some way
45:56
that trump can legally remain in office
45:58
as our president
46:00
no one would be happier than me i would
46:02
be absolutely delighted
46:04
i i i don’t know what that would be
46:07
i don’t see it as a as a realistic
46:10
possibility
46:12
but i pray you’re right i pray that
46:14
that’s how it works out
46:15
i really hope that that there is some
46:17
mechanism or some
46:19
or some evidence or proof that comes out
46:23
that is enough to let trump do something
46:27
and i mean there’s also rumors coming
46:29
out that there’s a lot of information
46:31
pending on those voting machines with
46:33
very detailed proof and evidence of how
46:35
they were
46:36
uh how they were manipulated and used
46:38
and even if that
46:40
is true and even if all that comes out
46:42
the next two or three days
46:44
my question is is it enough i mean is
46:47
you know they’ve already turned down
46:48
every court case that that trump has
46:50
tried to
46:51
to to make so would would that be enough
46:54
i mean it
46:55
it it has to go before a court someplace
46:58
so that it could be a legally binding
47:00
thing you know
47:01
and i just don’t know where that would
47:03
be i don’t know who would consider his
47:04
cases because i think
47:06
he just you know he just doesn’t have
47:09
the support in those circles
47:10
so i i don’t know like i said i don’t
47:12
see how it would
47:14
would work out but i would love to see
47:16
it be true
47:18
well i say um amen to that you said you
47:21
hope and pray i say
47:22
amen well our time is up but this has
47:26
been
47:26
a a very um valuable
47:30
chat your your part of it thank you so
47:33
much
47:34
and um at least you know the more people
47:37
are informed
47:38
i mean that’s the only thing we can hope
47:39
for the more people are informed
47:42
about all of these things um and not
47:44
given propaganda by the mainstream media
47:46
the better chance there is for america
47:49
to not go down the tubes
47:51
so thank you very much brad johnson
47:55
and thank you all for listening you’ve
47:56
been listening to dr carroll’s couch
47:59
and i’m your psychiatrist host dr carol
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lieberman
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