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9/11 Pentagon conspiracy theory debunked

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Brad Johnson, CIA Chief of Station (Ret.), is President of Americans for Intelligence Reform and brings his 25 years of experience as a CIA Operative and Chief of Station serving multiple times overseas in direct support of the War against Terrorism. Mr. Johnson is a certified senior expert in Counterintelligence issues with extensive direct experience in the field. He brings you his unique perspective from deep, international experience and conservative, Christian values. Now retired, he formed Americans for Intelligence Reform to fight exactly the corruption and politics destroying our intelligence capabilities and threatening our national security.

He is an enrolled member of The Cherokee Nation, a Federally Recognized Tribe.

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brad johnson here for americans for
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intelligence reform it is february
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6 2021. we just recently completed a a
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small
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interview that we had done on
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congresswoman green out of the state of
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georgia
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and some of the areas which she she got
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criticized
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and i wanted to bring up one of those uh
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in a follow-up interview
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based on all of the feedback we got on
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youtube and other areas of social media
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and uh it’s a far larger discussion than
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i realized uh out there
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on just precisely how that damage was
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done to the uh
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to the pentagon and there’s a number of
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things i want to to kind of talk about
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out of that
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and i i understand that there are a lot
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of theories about cruise missile having
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been
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what was done uh what did the impact on
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on the pentagon and did the damage to
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the pentagon
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um now i live you know reasonably close
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to the uh to the pentagon i mean within
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an hour drive and so a lot of the people
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i know are our
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government employees and and military
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and things like that that’s just the
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background i have where i live and what
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i do so
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quite familiar with a lot of the aspects
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of this i personally know two people
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that were there
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the day of 9 11 and one other person
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that just happened to be driving by
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uh there’s a lot of eyewitness
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reports and and testimony if you will of
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people who saw the
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aircraft flying into the into the
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pentagon and of course
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it was american airlines flight 77
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a boeing 757 that
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that flew into it that all is confirmed
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information and yes there
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was uh evidence at the pentagon at the
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time there were
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uh you know i won’t be too graphic but
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there were hunks of bloody
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flesh bone and things like that left
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after an incident like that i’ve been to
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a couple plain wrecks in
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in real life myself and and they’re
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they’re a mess there’s not a lot left
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but there’s pieces
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so there were pieces of human remains
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found that weren’t pentagon personnel
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and as everyone knows there’s nobody on
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a cruise missile
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uh so i mean the the the level of proof
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for it having been in
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that airplane that specific aircraft are
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just
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overwhelming it was also uh just the way
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this is located too the pentagon sits
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just inside virginia very near the
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potomac river which separates it from
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washington dc
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and there’s an interstate highway that
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goes right by it and roads
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that connect up to other roads all
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around it so it’s a very
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it’s in kind of a mixing bowl area for
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roads going around it so there was a lot
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of traffic in the area
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at the time it just there’s just not a
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lot of
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question about it there were also
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remnants of the aircraft
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fuselage found when that aircraft came
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in and was coming down i mean keep in
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mind
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it was in a downward attitude and so its
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airspeed would have been relatively high
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i mean i don’t know that anyone has
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talked about that specific but
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i’m sure was in the 400 mile 450 mile an
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hour
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range which is that’s fast and and to
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run into a
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you know big stone building like the
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pentagon
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aircraft are built to be as light as
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possible so they’re only strong enough
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to
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you know have the wings be able to lift
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everything up in the air just to
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conserve fuel and efficiencies on these
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aircraft so they’re they’re not
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built to withstand impact and
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uh people i see comments about the wings
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you know the wing damage and all of that
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but uh
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those those wings are built just as i
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said just strong enough to hold
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everything and their
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their main strength is for lift so that
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vertical
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uh strength is what you get out of those
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aircraft they’re not made for a
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horizontal impact so wings shear off and
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in fact
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let me say i mean i’m a small planes
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pilot myself
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part of the training that you get early
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on is if you know if you’re
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absolutely screwed in the aircraft and
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you’re coming down
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and you’ve got no place to touch down
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one of the things you want to try to do
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is
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aim for two trees to take the fuselage
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through the middle of it
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because the wings will shear off but
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what that does is it slows you down
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because what you
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don’t want in the aircraft is slowing
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down the fuselage through
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direct impact and it’s kind of i you
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know i would i would describe what
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happens there
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as as the fuselage of that boeing
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757 american airlines flight 77
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impacted into the stone building the
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pentagon is
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you know is a big stone structure
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type of building it’s not a flimsy
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little wood frame or anything like that
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and what you have is kind of like a
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yeah i almost hate to use this example
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i’m sure i’ll get a lot of criticism for
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it but it’s like a reverse black hole
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black hole you hit the event horizon
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things start to stretch out whatever’s
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closest to the black hole will stretch
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out
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and everything else behind it slowly
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gets fed into that pipeline where it’s
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stretched out
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it’s the opposite in this impact
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everything gets crunched down and as
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that
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fuchsia laws starts pushing into that
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part that’s already impacted
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the stone and the windows and the glass
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and the people and the aircraft
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all get ground up in mostly just down
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into a powder
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even if you go look just doing basic
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research looking at where
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helicopters in particular have crashed
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just on their own or
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other aircraft where they just crash
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into the ground uh
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oftentimes there’s you know a lot of
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that is gone sometimes there’s
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big pieces left and sometimes depending
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on the speed and the amount of fuel in
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the aircraft there’s just not much left
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that aircraft had fuel on it and as it
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ground into that it became also
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fireball you can see the scorch marks on
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the outside of the building i drove by
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and looked at all of this
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and you know clearly in the photographs
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you can see the black
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where there was fire uh from this impact
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and you can if you look at it closely i
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mean i understand the comments that
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people are expecting those wings to have
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gone through that stone doesn’t work
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that way they would have been bent back
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and pushed through as far as the
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fuselage went
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there were parts of the landing gear
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found
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on the inner ring where they punched
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through that was what made the smaller
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hole in the in the next level of
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buildings it’s concentric circles
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in a pentagon shape uh uh
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you know and so it hit the enter the
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next circle in from the landing gear
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like i said the bits of human flesh with
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some clothing still on them
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bits of fuchsia laws from the impact
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that blasted back
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were found on the grounds around it
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there’s photographs of all of those
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things
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out there i i grant you that you know we
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would all expect to see large pieces of
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fuselage and the engines and all of
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those things there but
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as these things go up i mean uh they
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really do
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burn up into nothing because especially
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fuselage can just melt into nothing and
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that type of impact is the is the
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perfect way
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in which to get rid of it and in the in
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the in the buildings that we all saw the
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aircraft fly into in new york the trade
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towers i mean there was
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virtually nothing left there and you can
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see on that impact
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before the aircraft fuselage has
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completely gone into the building
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it’s erupted into a big ball of fire and
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the
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fuel on aircraft is very very volatile
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and flammable so
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that’s exactly what happened here big
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fireball
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even before the jet had finally you know
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completely crashed into the building
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and if you look it’s fairly narrow
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consistent with what a fuselage would
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have done because it
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compresses down and mashes all the stuff
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together as it keeps
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being pushed in a little further a
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little further and that it’s a meat
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grinder i mean literally for
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the people that were there they were
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just ground to nothing in the aircraft
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ground to nothing
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it’s just it is in fact how that stuff
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works
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uh and if you look closely too you’ll
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see that the rubble from the impact
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is laying there on below it if it had
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been an
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explosion and i think everybody’s seen
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these
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impact craters of where an explosion
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takes
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place like a cruise missile cruise
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missile comes in hits that same thing
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and it would have blasted everything out
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and you’d have a
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crater there where in fact you see
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rubble
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there uh from the photographs
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immediately after the
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the well you know they’re still spraying
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water on the fire and stuff you can see
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that it’s full of rubble there so
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as a theory i mean i i know that some
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people feel very strongly on this
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and and a number of people that
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commented pointed out something i agree
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very strongly with is and that that we
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cannot trust our government today
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and i’ve often talked about the
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corruption that we know for a fact
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exists within doj fbi cia
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a lot of these organizations and of
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course one of the reasons that we
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founded americans for intelligence
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reform
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is to kind of get us back to those areas
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where this information can be trusted
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and we get the right information to the
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powers that be the president
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the administration and the president’s
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office and so on and congress and
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what they do with it then that’s a
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secondary problem we need to get people
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in there too but the underlying problem
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is
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that people have many questions that are
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really valid and i agree with completely
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that this
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this level of mistrust that we have with
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the federal government is
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well founded this however is just not
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one of them i mean
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also the way this sits is it’s very near
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reagan national airport named after one
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of the great presidents of the united
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states
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ronald reagan and they have radar there
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and that’s that’s just
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you know a stone’s throw down the road
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so they would have seen a cruise missile
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coming in from way back
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and keeping secrets is one of those
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things that’s really hard
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when it comes to people getting killed
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now that’s my whole adult life has been
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dealing in
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you know highly classified things and
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you know i don’t talk about them because
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they’re classified and i
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you know i’m not trying to damage
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intelligence in the sense that
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i want to reveal secrets i’m i’m trying
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to have it
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intelligence community be rebuilt into
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something that’s effective
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so but having dealt in that stuff all my
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life
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adult life the the secrets are very hard
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to keep
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when it comes to like people getting
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killed innocent civilians and things
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like that
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people just uh you know those types of
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secrets there’s always somebody
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that just feels so you know that it’s so
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wrong that they’ll come out with it
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they’ll be whistleblowers
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or whatever so you know and you would
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have had civilian people have to be
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involved because they would have had to
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control
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reagan national airport where the radar
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is and if a cruise missile had come from
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some place they would see where it is
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also andrews air force base is not that
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far from the pentagon
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and it’s also on that south side of the
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pentagon building
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uh you know a few miles away but still
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it’s on that same side of the building
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and
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and in a matter of 10 or 20 miles away
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by cruise missile or
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jet aircraft speeds that’s only a minute
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you know or or so
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of time so they would have seen it
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coming from way back
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and there’s a lot of sites that would
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have had visibility to these things
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and and known so you just would have had
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so many people involved including
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civilian personnel
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that had that you just couldn’t have
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gotten it all organized and recruited
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all these people to keep a secret where
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we have a
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uh you know a government conspiracy to
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attack the pentagon
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uh it’s just so highly unlikely i in at
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least in my opinion
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i would say that it’s it’s so unlikely
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that it’s almost certainly impossible to
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have been done that way
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and the amount of evidence that there is
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for the the human remains the bits of
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fuselage that were there
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in fact you know if that was not
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american airlines flight 77
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what happened to flight 77 and things
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like that and those people that was
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filled with civilian people were they
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all part of the conspiracy and they
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all went off or they were murdered
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someplace and those sorts of things like
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i said
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um it would have been my reaction to
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that if i had been
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somehow part of this program where we
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start slaughtering
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innocent american civilians i mean that
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was what my whole dead
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life was dedicated to stopping not doing
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and if i had gotten wind of that in any
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way being true in
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any way you know i would have i would
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have made it public immediately and
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and uh and cried to the high heavens to
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to bring those people to justice that
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had done something like that
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and i can guarantee you whether they’re
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conservatives or independents or
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or democrats there are still a large
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percentage of people
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who have those clearances that would be
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involved that just wouldn’t stand for
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an operation of that nature so again
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it’s just one more aspect of this that
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makes it
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so difficult for a theory like that of a
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cruise missile to be true
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so i understand that a lot of people
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will be very critical of this of that
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but i did want to clarify since it was
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so
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uh widely discussed in the um in the
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feedback from
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social media i wanted to clarify at
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least my perspective on it and
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um uh congressman green congresswoman
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green
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uh if you know i wasn’t clear from the
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reporting i’ve seen and i didn’t go back
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and listen to original comments on it
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but i if if that’s what she was doing
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uh she did herself comment that she once
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she became congresswoman she wasn’t
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saying things like that anymore
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and it was able to do additional
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research on it and said yeah okay
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it appears to have been an aircraft that
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flew into the pentagon and 911 was
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real if you will and not some sort of
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conspiracy so
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um you know i i as i say it’s just the
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preponderance of of
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information and evidence and eyewitness
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testimony and all of those things and
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people like i said i know personally
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were there
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uh i just don’t see how anything else
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could be true than than
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than what 911 is reported to be with uh
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radical islamic
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terrorists taking over those aircraft
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and flying him into the
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pentagon and into the trade towers in
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new york so
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all right i hope that helps and doesn’t
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piss too many people off
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all right thanks a lot
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you
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