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brad johnson it is april 29th
00:03
of 2020 and i think it was two days ago
00:05
yesterday the day before
00:07
some some really startling news came out
00:10
of the pentagon
00:11
where they had confirmed i think to be
00:15
to be precise and to be accurate about
00:17
this they said that some videos which
00:19
actually had been circulating online a
00:21
couple of years ago
00:22
about where some u.s i guess navy pilots
00:26
i think in f18s
00:28
they spotted some aircraft behaving
00:31
in a way which aircraft doesn’t normally
00:34
be even i don’t think
00:35
there’s any science at this time to be
00:38
able to make them behave that way
00:39
and everybody was circulating a couple
00:42
years ago saying
00:43
this this is the best ever ufo footage
00:46
so the pentagon came out in the last
00:47
couple of days
00:48
and actually officially said yeah we
00:51
don’t know what these are these are
00:52
officially
00:53
unidentified maybe unidentifiable flying
00:57
objects
00:58
and um it feels like you know what
01:01
what should be maybe some of the biggest
01:03
news of all time in a way
01:05
uh it’s it’s been a giant collective
01:09
yawn
01:09
i mean it’s i think the fact that it
01:11
isn’t news is as big as the news itself
01:16
it has been interesting i think there
01:17
are some reasons for this
01:19
i i took a look at those videos just to
01:21
see what everything that was going on
01:24
i guess throw my head into the ring on
01:26
the analysis of what they mean
01:28
now these videos have been leaked
01:30
previously
01:31
and so tidbits of this were coming out
01:33
from 2007 to 2017
01:36
i think was the period that that some of
01:38
these were coming out so the videos are
01:40
a little bit
01:40
uh older and
01:44
uh they finally there’s been these leaks
01:46
and people looking at it and saying you
01:47
know clearly this is
01:49
an odd uh some form of odd aircraft
01:52
that’s moving oddly
01:54
and so then they’re the the people who
01:57
are
01:57
big believers in ufos have have been
01:59
saying that that’s proof
02:01
so it’s been part of an argument going
02:03
on for a decade and a half
02:05
on on these videos and as of more have
02:07
come out they’ve been used to make the
02:09
same argument so
02:10
i think part of the reason it hasn’t
02:11
been more reported or looked at or
02:14
analyzed just over the last few
02:16
few days since this came out is because
02:18
of that there is a history to it but
02:20
they did release them
02:21
a couple comments on it like i said i
02:23
looked at them pretty closely and looked
02:24
at them a number of times
02:25
uh first of all navy pilots are you know
02:28
i’ve
02:28
met guys those guys quite a few times
02:31
through the years a lot of
02:32
good guys you know navy pilots and
02:34
they’re very qualified pilots good guys
02:36
smart guys all that sort of stuff so i
02:38
mean
02:39
i have respect for them as a cadre and
02:41
certainly individually the
02:43
some of the guys i’ve met there have
02:44
been you know high-end high-end people
02:47
so i would tend to respect what they say
02:48
their comments on it and one of those
02:50
pilots now you don’t have too much in
02:52
there that’s that’s said
02:53
you don’t have anything conclusive in
02:55
there and it cuts off so you don’t know
02:58
what happens
02:58
i mean does the thing go away at you
03:01
know warp two
03:02
or or what happens you don’t know so
03:04
there’s a lot of
03:05
missing information in there now
03:08
supposedly
03:10
back when these were early uh you know
03:12
captured on film
03:14
uh the reason that they weren’t released
03:16
and what has been said since then by the
03:18
pentagon
03:19
is that there were good national
03:20
security reasons why they weren’t
03:21
released well now they’re released and
03:23
you’re looking at it and go well what
03:24
are those national security concerns
03:26
and i think because they didn’t have a
03:28
good explanation for them
03:30
although i i do question why these are
03:32
cut off why is it just uh
03:34
you know these are each very short
03:35
videos why don’t we have a
03:37
a longer video now something happened to
03:40
that thing and you know these navy
03:41
pilots didn’t
03:43
you know follow it for 30 seconds ago
03:44
okay that’s enough turn it off let’s go
03:46
home
03:46
you know they were they were sticking in
03:47
there they were going to go see what it
03:49
was too they would have wanted to know
03:50
and their that’s their job they were
03:52
out looking around to see what what the
03:54
heck was going on and who was it
03:56
so they would have continued pursuit
03:59
unless
04:00
somehow the aircraft got away well that
04:02
would be interesting news and they would
04:04
have
04:04
uh data telemetry type data on this
04:08
other aircraft and how it went away so
04:10
we’re getting partial information
04:13
i question why we’re getting that
04:15
because perhaps there’s something in
04:16
there that
04:16
that is scary and that’s why it’s the
04:19
national security concern
04:21
just because that aircraft performs at a
04:24
certain level that we’re not familiar
04:26
with
04:27
is not proof of aliens although clearly
04:30
i mean
04:31
being realistic i suppose there’s there
04:32
is you know some measure of
04:34
chance that that’s the case uh but i
04:37
would you know my first guess would be
04:38
that you know maybe the so
04:40
the russians or chinese have developed
04:42
something and they were using it off the
04:43
coast of the united states or
04:45
some u.s territory to see what they
04:48
could see with it and try and use it
04:49
might have been an unmanned
04:51
there’s been a lot of progress with
04:52
unmanned aircraft so something like that
04:54
would be able to maneuver in a way
04:56
that manned aircraft would not be able
04:59
to
04:59
one of the comments that came out of
05:01
that that the man made made a comment
05:03
that
05:03
the the aircraft was rotating i find
05:05
that very interesting but
05:07
what i would what i’m really curious
05:09
about and what we need to all see in
05:11
order to kind of decide what to think of
05:12
this is what’s
05:14
what’s the end you know what happens
05:16
after that
05:17
that when you see those little lines
05:19
come in and focus on it and then it’s
05:21
tracking in the camera
05:22
and you some of the films you see it’s
05:24
kind of sliding and then it comes back
05:25
and it slides and comes back
05:27
then it gets locked once it gets locked
05:29
that
05:30
pilot and like i said these navy pilots
05:32
are good guys they’re well trained
05:34
very capable guys uh you know there’s
05:37
ones with more experience and ones with
05:38
less experience but they’re still
05:40
you know capable people so he didn’t
05:42
just like
05:43
lose it you know after that so that that
05:47
information’s missing and i would be
05:48
curious about all of that
05:50
that’s kind of the final element to me
05:51
now like i said i know a lot of people
05:54
take a look at this and
05:55
consider proof but that you can’t see
05:57
enough detail of those things to really
05:59
decide
06:00
what they are it does look circular in
06:03
some ways
06:05
it does appear to be moving and rotating
06:06
in ways that a a normal aircraft
06:08
wouldn’t but
06:09
perhaps there was some sort of change in
06:11
direction or something where the
06:12
airplane
06:13
the other aircraft shifted and it gave
06:15
the appearance of
06:16
rotating where uh you know it might have
06:19
continued in
06:20
its thing there are aircraft where the
06:22
wings move and stuff too
06:23
and in an experimental aircraft maybe
06:25
you know the wings fold in it just goes
06:27
like a rocket and then goes low and
06:29
disappears into the ocean who knows what
06:31
just floats there until it’s picked up
06:33
uh i don’t know i’m speculating wildly
06:35
now but
06:36
uh my first guest would not be aliens
06:39
i’m not a big believer in that sort of
06:40
thing so it’s kind of not my first
06:42
guess i would say you know always be
06:44
suspicious of
06:46
my fellow mankind first for these sorts
06:48
of things
06:49
and then worry about the
06:51
extraterrestrials and uh
06:53
you know i don’t know if i was going to
06:54
travel light years to get here i’d want
06:56
at least stop in and say hello rather
06:58
than just flying around out of the ocean
07:00
with
07:01
you know trick aircraft and not not not
07:02
at least pop in for coffee
07:04
so i i’m a little surprised that uh that
07:08
that there’s so much belief in that but
07:11
you
07:12
you never know it’s it’s a it’s
07:13
certainly a theoretically feasible
07:15
possibility for it to be aliens but
07:18
based on these films there’s there is no
07:20
proof
07:21
there may be some evidence of something
07:23
unusual but there is no proof so
07:25
uh to those who are interested in that
07:27
to the ufo believers
07:29
i would say go after that tail end of
07:31
these videos to find out
07:33
how it ended what happened where that
07:35
aircraft disappeared from view because
07:37
certainly
07:37
the navy has more than enough capability
07:40
to call up as many aircraft as they need
07:42
for whatever it is they need those two
07:44
aircraft that were out there apparently
07:46
uh certainly were not the end of our
07:47
resources and they could have tracked
07:49
that
07:49
that other aircraft for a long time with
07:52
using all sorts of
07:54
airborne capabilities so that’s what’s
07:56
missing why that hasn’t been released i
07:58
think is a very interesting question
08:00
that’s what
08:00
that’s what needs to be focused on it
08:03
would have been really helpful if there
08:04
was
08:04
any indication of scale in any of those
08:07
videos because that’s
08:08
the other thing too is was this a small
08:10
drone or was this uh i mean that
08:13
the lack of indication of scale is is an
08:16
interesting data point right all by
08:19
itself
08:20
it is you know we don’t have included in
08:22
that the navy pilots would have the
08:24
information on its speed for example
08:27
they would have had a pretty good idea
08:29
of the size the scale that you’re
08:31
mentioning of the aircraft
08:32
and uh you know where did it go
08:36
and like i say if it if it if it turned
08:40
and sped off
08:41
at you know mach 25
08:45
then you know i would be looking that
08:47
going holy moly i mean there’s a problem
08:49
here of some sort because
08:51
if somebody else here on this planet is
08:52
doing that then we’ve got problems
08:54
if it’s somebody from some place place
08:55
else that’s here doing that then we’ve
08:57
got problems
08:58
no matter how you slice it we need to
09:00
figure this out you know
09:01
that would be my immediate reaction to
09:03
it so i
09:04
it’s extraordinarily important data
09:06
that’s just not left out but there is
09:08
some sort of
09:09
security element to it and i would say
09:11
the the government
09:13
tends to error towards trying to avoid
09:16
people
09:16
panicking which uh
09:19
you know even with all the scare tactics
09:22
it’s used in covet 19 i haven’t seen
09:24
that many people
09:25
panic per se a few guys that you know
09:27
getting fist bites in the
09:29
costco over the last case of water you
09:32
see some of that sort of thing but like
09:33
widespread panic and stuff
09:35
you know you haven’t really seen not
09:37
that it couldn’t be done but i don’t
09:38
think by information like that
09:40
i just don’t think you’re going to see
09:42
the people panic in the street so me i
09:44
would personally
09:44
just throw it out there and let me add
09:46
one other thing kind of in conclusion
09:50
we had a former president united states
09:52
jimmy carter that was a big believer in
09:53
ufos and one of the things he swore to
09:55
do when he
09:56
got if he became president was to go
09:58
look into all this and make it public
10:00
and
10:00
he was fully convinced that the federal
10:02
government was hiding information on
10:04
ufos
10:04
so that so did hillary clinton so did
10:07
hillary clinton as
10:08
one of her campaign promises and by far
10:10
the most amusing one
10:11
is that if she was elected she would
10:13
release all the government data on ufos
10:15
that’s interesting yeah i didn’t i
10:17
wasn’t aware that of hillary
10:18
so she didn’t get elected so we don’t
10:19
know we haven’t had the opportunity to
10:21
see what
10:22
she might have come up with but jimmy
10:24
carter did do that and he did go in and
10:26
look at everything
10:28
i would be surprised to find that if
10:31
he’s
10:31
actively looking for something out of
10:33
the navy that the navy didn’t give to
10:35
him he is commander-in-chief
10:37
those people understand following orders
10:39
and receiving orders and giving orders
10:41
but
10:42
uh i i just i can’t believe that they
10:44
would have hidden from the president
10:45
united states something that he
10:47
demanded to be shown out of the military
10:49
out of the navy specifically so
10:51
um i tend to think that there is no real
10:54
evidence
10:56
i tend to think that what they find as a
10:58
national security problem would be
11:00
the that this is technology by somebody
11:02
else that fits
11:04
the criteria of the situation we’re
11:05
faced with so as i often mentioned
11:08
optimus razer what’s the simplest
11:10
explanation for the data that we have
11:12
and that’s the simplest explanation that
11:14
there is some sort of technological
11:16
aspect to this that’s
11:17
that’s fairly advanced that would that
11:20
could be judged
11:20
threatening and so the government
11:22
doesn’t want to release that out they’re
11:24
going to study it themselves
11:25
which there’s some appropriateness to
11:27
that and
11:28
but they didn’t want wouldn’t want to
11:30
create any sort of general panic
11:32
letting people know that uh somebody
11:34
else out there on this planet has got an
11:36
advanced technology that we don’t have
11:38
you know that’s bad press so they would
11:40
want to avoid avoid
11:42
those sorts of issues so that to me is
11:44
the
11:45
simplest explanation for what we know so
11:47
far
11:48
last question on this in uh sometime
11:51
late last year
11:53
putin announced he actually showed
11:55
footage of it
11:56
that they had some missile that was
11:58
unstoppable that was mock
12:00
i don’t know mack double digits i think
12:03
and that it was maneuverable in flight
12:06
that could reach any target on earth
12:07
within a matter of an hour or two or
12:09
something it was just
12:10
crazy fast hypersonic missile nuclear
12:13
capable
12:14
and um but and could maneuver while in
12:18
flight
12:19
but yes i think that if this was that
12:23
we would they would have been able to
12:24
identify it i mean there’s there’s
12:25
footage of that right
12:26
correct and i don’t think that’s i don’t
12:28
think these are same things because
12:30
what we saw in the video this thing was
12:32
flying and you can
12:33
see that there’s what looks like ground
12:36
below some of these shots so
12:38
i mean it may have been up quite high
12:39
it’s hard to it’s just so hard to tell
12:40
from what we see in the
12:42
in these videos what they would have
12:43
would be much different and far
12:45
uh far more revealing of the details
12:49
than what we’re able to see out of these
12:51
videos well let’s let’s put it this way
12:54
i have a hard time believing that an f8
12:56
and us
12:57
2020 or 2017 even u.s navy f-18
13:02
has a 360 p um black and white camera
13:06
i i just i’m pretty damn sure the
13:09
footage we saw
13:10
has very little relationship to the one
13:12
i think what they’ve done is what
13:13
they’ve released were the leaked
13:15
materials and that anything that hadn’t
13:17
already been leaked
13:18
they’ve held back and like i said it’s
13:20
probably because there’s some
13:22
technological things in there that they
13:23
want you know they’re trying to you can
13:26
reverse engineer from seeing the
13:27
performance of something
13:29
so i think that would be the the
13:31
national security element to this uh
13:34
and that would be you know very un
13:36
reasonable reaction to that of you
13:38
you came across it i mean it’s the
13:40
program that you’re gonna be working on
13:41
to develop that same technology
13:43
of course is gonna be classified so that
13:45
therefore that’s national security
13:47
and that’s something you don’t want to
13:48
go out to the public so if that’s indeed
13:50
what’s going on i would say that’s just
13:51
like
13:52
pretty straightforward
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you
brad johnson it is april 29th
00:03
of 2020 and i think it was two days ago
00:05
yesterday the day before
00:07
some some really startling news came out
00:10
of the pentagon
00:11
where they had confirmed i think to be
00:15
to be precise and to be accurate about
00:17
this they said that some videos which
00:19
actually had been circulating online a
00:21
couple of years ago
00:22
about where some u.s i guess navy pilots
00:26
i think in f18s
00:28
they spotted some aircraft behaving
00:31
in a way which aircraft doesn’t normally
00:34
be even i don’t think
00:35
there’s any science at this time to be
00:38
able to make them behave that way
00:39
and everybody was circulating a couple
00:42
years ago saying
00:43
this this is the best ever ufo footage
00:46
so the pentagon came out in the last
00:47
couple of days
00:48
and actually officially said yeah we
00:51
don’t know what these are these are
00:52
officially
00:53
unidentified maybe unidentifiable flying
00:57
objects
00:58
and um it feels like you know what
01:01
what should be maybe some of the biggest
01:03
news of all time in a way
01:05
uh it’s it’s been a giant collective
01:09
yawn
01:09
i mean it’s i think the fact that it
01:11
isn’t news is as big as the news itself
01:16
it has been interesting i think there
01:17
are some reasons for this
01:19
i i took a look at those videos just to
01:21
see what everything that was going on
01:24
i guess throw my head into the ring on
01:26
the analysis of what they mean
01:28
now these videos have been leaked
01:30
previously
01:31
and so tidbits of this were coming out
01:33
from 2007 to 2017
01:36
i think was the period that that some of
01:38
these were coming out so the videos are
01:40
a little bit
01:40
uh older and
01:44
uh they finally there’s been these leaks
01:46
and people looking at it and saying you
01:47
know clearly this is
01:49
an odd uh some form of odd aircraft
01:52
that’s moving oddly
01:54
and so then they’re the the people who
01:57
are
01:57
big believers in ufos have have been
01:59
saying that that’s proof
02:01
so it’s been part of an argument going
02:03
on for a decade and a half
02:05
on on these videos and as of more have
02:07
come out they’ve been used to make the
02:09
same argument so
02:10
i think part of the reason it hasn’t
02:11
been more reported or looked at or
02:14
analyzed just over the last few
02:16
few days since this came out is because
02:18
of that there is a history to it but
02:20
they did release them
02:21
a couple comments on it like i said i
02:23
looked at them pretty closely and looked
02:24
at them a number of times
02:25
uh first of all navy pilots are you know
02:28
i’ve
02:28
met guys those guys quite a few times
02:31
through the years a lot of
02:32
good guys you know navy pilots and
02:34
they’re very qualified pilots good guys
02:36
smart guys all that sort of stuff so i
02:38
mean
02:39
i have respect for them as a cadre and
02:41
certainly individually the
02:43
some of the guys i’ve met there have
02:44
been you know high-end high-end people
02:47
so i would tend to respect what they say
02:48
their comments on it and one of those
02:50
pilots now you don’t have too much in
02:52
there that’s that’s said
02:53
you don’t have anything conclusive in
02:55
there and it cuts off so you don’t know
02:58
what happens
02:58
i mean does the thing go away at you
03:01
know warp two
03:02
or or what happens you don’t know so
03:04
there’s a lot of
03:05
missing information in there now
03:08
supposedly
03:10
back when these were early uh you know
03:12
captured on film
03:14
uh the reason that they weren’t released
03:16
and what has been said since then by the
03:18
pentagon
03:19
is that there were good national
03:20
security reasons why they weren’t
03:21
released well now they’re released and
03:23
you’re looking at it and go well what
03:24
are those national security concerns
03:26
and i think because they didn’t have a
03:28
good explanation for them
03:30
although i i do question why these are
03:32
cut off why is it just uh
03:34
you know these are each very short
03:35
videos why don’t we have a
03:37
a longer video now something happened to
03:40
that thing and you know these navy
03:41
pilots didn’t
03:43
you know follow it for 30 seconds ago
03:44
okay that’s enough turn it off let’s go
03:46
home
03:46
you know they were they were sticking in
03:47
there they were going to go see what it
03:49
was too they would have wanted to know
03:50
and their that’s their job they were
03:52
out looking around to see what what the
03:54
heck was going on and who was it
03:56
so they would have continued pursuit
03:59
unless
04:00
somehow the aircraft got away well that
04:02
would be interesting news and they would
04:04
have
04:04
uh data telemetry type data on this
04:08
other aircraft and how it went away so
04:10
we’re getting partial information
04:13
i question why we’re getting that
04:15
because perhaps there’s something in
04:16
there that
04:16
that is scary and that’s why it’s the
04:19
national security concern
04:21
just because that aircraft performs at a
04:24
certain level that we’re not familiar
04:26
with
04:27
is not proof of aliens although clearly
04:30
i mean
04:31
being realistic i suppose there’s there
04:32
is you know some measure of
04:34
chance that that’s the case uh but i
04:37
would you know my first guess would be
04:38
that you know maybe the so
04:40
the russians or chinese have developed
04:42
something and they were using it off the
04:43
coast of the united states or
04:45
some u.s territory to see what they
04:48
could see with it and try and use it
04:49
might have been an unmanned
04:51
there’s been a lot of progress with
04:52
unmanned aircraft so something like that
04:54
would be able to maneuver in a way
04:56
that manned aircraft would not be able
04:59
to
04:59
one of the comments that came out of
05:01
that that the man made made a comment
05:03
that
05:03
the the aircraft was rotating i find
05:05
that very interesting but
05:07
what i would what i’m really curious
05:09
about and what we need to all see in
05:11
order to kind of decide what to think of
05:12
this is what’s
05:14
what’s the end you know what happens
05:16
after that
05:17
that when you see those little lines
05:19
come in and focus on it and then it’s
05:21
tracking in the camera
05:22
and you some of the films you see it’s
05:24
kind of sliding and then it comes back
05:25
and it slides and comes back
05:27
then it gets locked once it gets locked
05:29
that
05:30
pilot and like i said these navy pilots
05:32
are good guys they’re well trained
05:34
very capable guys uh you know there’s
05:37
ones with more experience and ones with
05:38
less experience but they’re still
05:40
you know capable people so he didn’t
05:42
just like
05:43
lose it you know after that so that that
05:47
information’s missing and i would be
05:48
curious about all of that
05:50
that’s kind of the final element to me
05:51
now like i said i know a lot of people
05:54
take a look at this and
05:55
consider proof but that you can’t see
05:57
enough detail of those things to really
05:59
decide
06:00
what they are it does look circular in
06:03
some ways
06:05
it does appear to be moving and rotating
06:06
in ways that a a normal aircraft
06:08
wouldn’t but
06:09
perhaps there was some sort of change in
06:11
direction or something where the
06:12
airplane
06:13
the other aircraft shifted and it gave
06:15
the appearance of
06:16
rotating where uh you know it might have
06:19
continued in
06:20
its thing there are aircraft where the
06:22
wings move and stuff too
06:23
and in an experimental aircraft maybe
06:25
you know the wings fold in it just goes
06:27
like a rocket and then goes low and
06:29
disappears into the ocean who knows what
06:31
just floats there until it’s picked up
06:33
uh i don’t know i’m speculating wildly
06:35
now but
06:36
uh my first guest would not be aliens
06:39
i’m not a big believer in that sort of
06:40
thing so it’s kind of not my first
06:42
guess i would say you know always be
06:44
suspicious of
06:46
my fellow mankind first for these sorts
06:48
of things
06:49
and then worry about the
06:51
extraterrestrials and uh
06:53
you know i don’t know if i was going to
06:54
travel light years to get here i’d want
06:56
at least stop in and say hello rather
06:58
than just flying around out of the ocean
07:00
with
07:01
you know trick aircraft and not not not
07:02
at least pop in for coffee
07:04
so i i’m a little surprised that uh that
07:08
that there’s so much belief in that but
07:11
you
07:12
you never know it’s it’s a it’s
07:13
certainly a theoretically feasible
07:15
possibility for it to be aliens but
07:18
based on these films there’s there is no
07:20
proof
07:21
there may be some evidence of something
07:23
unusual but there is no proof so
07:25
uh to those who are interested in that
07:27
to the ufo believers
07:29
i would say go after that tail end of
07:31
these videos to find out
07:33
how it ended what happened where that
07:35
aircraft disappeared from view because
07:37
certainly
07:37
the navy has more than enough capability
07:40
to call up as many aircraft as they need
07:42
for whatever it is they need those two
07:44
aircraft that were out there apparently
07:46
uh certainly were not the end of our
07:47
resources and they could have tracked
07:49
that
07:49
that other aircraft for a long time with
07:52
using all sorts of
07:54
airborne capabilities so that’s what’s
07:56
missing why that hasn’t been released i
07:58
think is a very interesting question
08:00
that’s what
08:00
that’s what needs to be focused on it
08:03
would have been really helpful if there
08:04
was
08:04
any indication of scale in any of those
08:07
videos because that’s
08:08
the other thing too is was this a small
08:10
drone or was this uh i mean that
08:13
the lack of indication of scale is is an
08:16
interesting data point right all by
08:19
itself
08:20
it is you know we don’t have included in
08:22
that the navy pilots would have the
08:24
information on its speed for example
08:27
they would have had a pretty good idea
08:29
of the size the scale that you’re
08:31
mentioning of the aircraft
08:32
and uh you know where did it go
08:36
and like i say if it if it if it turned
08:40
and sped off
08:41
at you know mach 25
08:45
then you know i would be looking that
08:47
going holy moly i mean there’s a problem
08:49
here of some sort because
08:51
if somebody else here on this planet is
08:52
doing that then we’ve got problems
08:54
if it’s somebody from some place place
08:55
else that’s here doing that then we’ve
08:57
got problems
08:58
no matter how you slice it we need to
09:00
figure this out you know
09:01
that would be my immediate reaction to
09:03
it so i
09:04
it’s extraordinarily important data
09:06
that’s just not left out but there is
09:08
some sort of
09:09
security element to it and i would say
09:11
the the government
09:13
tends to error towards trying to avoid
09:16
people
09:16
panicking which uh
09:19
you know even with all the scare tactics
09:22
it’s used in covet 19 i haven’t seen
09:24
that many people
09:25
panic per se a few guys that you know
09:27
getting fist bites in the
09:29
costco over the last case of water you
09:32
see some of that sort of thing but like
09:33
widespread panic and stuff
09:35
you know you haven’t really seen not
09:37
that it couldn’t be done but i don’t
09:38
think by information like that
09:40
i just don’t think you’re going to see
09:42
the people panic in the street so me i
09:44
would personally
09:44
just throw it out there and let me add
09:46
one other thing kind of in conclusion
09:50
we had a former president united states
09:52
jimmy carter that was a big believer in
09:53
ufos and one of the things he swore to
09:55
do when he
09:56
got if he became president was to go
09:58
look into all this and make it public
10:00
and
10:00
he was fully convinced that the federal
10:02
government was hiding information on
10:04
ufos
10:04
so that so did hillary clinton so did
10:07
hillary clinton as
10:08
one of her campaign promises and by far
10:10
the most amusing one
10:11
is that if she was elected she would
10:13
release all the government data on ufos
10:15
that’s interesting yeah i didn’t i
10:17
wasn’t aware that of hillary
10:18
so she didn’t get elected so we don’t
10:19
know we haven’t had the opportunity to
10:21
see what
10:22
she might have come up with but jimmy
10:24
carter did do that and he did go in and
10:26
look at everything
10:28
i would be surprised to find that if
10:31
he’s
10:31
actively looking for something out of
10:33
the navy that the navy didn’t give to
10:35
him he is commander-in-chief
10:37
those people understand following orders
10:39
and receiving orders and giving orders
10:41
but
10:42
uh i i just i can’t believe that they
10:44
would have hidden from the president
10:45
united states something that he
10:47
demanded to be shown out of the military
10:49
out of the navy specifically so
10:51
um i tend to think that there is no real
10:54
evidence
10:56
i tend to think that what they find as a
10:58
national security problem would be
11:00
the that this is technology by somebody
11:02
else that fits
11:04
the criteria of the situation we’re
11:05
faced with so as i often mentioned
11:08
optimus razer what’s the simplest
11:10
explanation for the data that we have
11:12
and that’s the simplest explanation that
11:14
there is some sort of technological
11:16
aspect to this that’s
11:17
that’s fairly advanced that would that
11:20
could be judged
11:20
threatening and so the government
11:22
doesn’t want to release that out they’re
11:24
going to study it themselves
11:25
which there’s some appropriateness to
11:27
that and
11:28
but they didn’t want wouldn’t want to
11:30
create any sort of general panic
11:32
letting people know that uh somebody
11:34
else out there on this planet has got an
11:36
advanced technology that we don’t have
11:38
you know that’s bad press so they would
11:40
want to avoid avoid
11:42
those sorts of issues so that to me is
11:44
the
11:45
simplest explanation for what we know so
11:47
far
11:48
last question on this in uh sometime
11:51
late last year
11:53
putin announced he actually showed
11:55
footage of it
11:56
that they had some missile that was
11:58
unstoppable that was mock
12:00
i don’t know mack double digits i think
12:03
and that it was maneuverable in flight
12:06
that could reach any target on earth
12:07
within a matter of an hour or two or
12:09
something it was just
12:10
crazy fast hypersonic missile nuclear
12:13
capable
12:14
and um but and could maneuver while in
12:18
flight
12:19
but yes i think that if this was that
12:23
we would they would have been able to
12:24
identify it i mean there’s there’s
12:25
footage of that right
12:26
correct and i don’t think that’s i don’t
12:28
think these are same things because
12:30
what we saw in the video this thing was
12:32
flying and you can
12:33
see that there’s what looks like ground
12:36
below some of these shots so
12:38
i mean it may have been up quite high
12:39
it’s hard to it’s just so hard to tell
12:40
from what we see in the
12:42
in these videos what they would have
12:43
would be much different and far
12:45
uh far more revealing of the details
12:49
than what we’re able to see out of these
12:51
videos well let’s let’s put it this way
12:54
i have a hard time believing that an f8
12:56
and us
12:57
2020 or 2017 even u.s navy f-18
13:02
has a 360 p um black and white camera
13:06
i i just i’m pretty damn sure the
13:09
footage we saw
13:10
has very little relationship to the one
13:12
i think what they’ve done is what
13:13
they’ve released were the leaked
13:15
materials and that anything that hadn’t
13:17
already been leaked
13:18
they’ve held back and like i said it’s
13:20
probably because there’s some
13:22
technological things in there that they
13:23
want you know they’re trying to you can
13:26
reverse engineer from seeing the
13:27
performance of something
13:29
so i think that would be the the
13:31
national security element to this uh
13:34
and that would be you know very un
13:36
reasonable reaction to that of you
13:38
you came across it i mean it’s the
13:40
program that you’re gonna be working on
13:41
to develop that same technology
13:43
of course is gonna be classified so that
13:45
therefore that’s national security
13:47
and that’s something you don’t want to
13:48
go out to the public so if that’s indeed
13:50
what’s going on i would say that’s just
13:51
like
13:52
pretty straightforward
14:02
[Music]
14:08
you
brad johnson it is april 29th
00:03
of 2020 and i think it was two days ago
00:05
yesterday the day before
00:07
some some really startling news came out
00:10
of the pentagon
00:11
where they had confirmed i think to be
00:15
to be precise and to be accurate about
00:17
this they said that some videos which
00:19
actually had been circulating online a
00:21
couple of years ago
00:22
about where some u.s i guess navy pilots
00:26
i think in f18s
00:28
they spotted some aircraft behaving
00:31
in a way which aircraft doesn’t normally
00:34
be even i don’t think
00:35
there’s any science at this time to be
00:38
able to make them behave that way
00:39
and everybody was circulating a couple
00:42
years ago saying
00:43
this this is the best ever ufo footage
00:46
so the pentagon came out in the last
00:47
couple of days
00:48
and actually officially said yeah we
00:51
don’t know what these are these are
00:52
officially
00:53
unidentified maybe unidentifiable flying
00:57
objects
00:58
and um it feels like you know what
01:01
what should be maybe some of the biggest
01:03
news of all time in a way
01:05
uh it’s it’s been a giant collective
01:09
yawn
01:09
i mean it’s i think the fact that it
01:11
isn’t news is as big as the news itself
01:16
it has been interesting i think there
01:17
are some reasons for this
01:19
i i took a look at those videos just to
01:21
see what everything that was going on
01:24
i guess throw my head into the ring on
01:26
the analysis of what they mean
01:28
now these videos have been leaked
01:30
previously
01:31
and so tidbits of this were coming out
01:33
from 2007 to 2017
01:36
i think was the period that that some of
01:38
these were coming out so the videos are
01:40
a little bit
01:40
uh older and
01:44
uh they finally there’s been these leaks
01:46
and people looking at it and saying you
01:47
know clearly this is
01:49
an odd uh some form of odd aircraft
01:52
that’s moving oddly
01:54
and so then they’re the the people who
01:57
are
01:57
big believers in ufos have have been
01:59
saying that that’s proof
02:01
so it’s been part of an argument going
02:03
on for a decade and a half
02:05
on on these videos and as of more have
02:07
come out they’ve been used to make the
02:09
same argument so
02:10
i think part of the reason it hasn’t
02:11
been more reported or looked at or
02:14
analyzed just over the last few
02:16
few days since this came out is because
02:18
of that there is a history to it but
02:20
they did release them
02:21
a couple comments on it like i said i
02:23
looked at them pretty closely and looked
02:24
at them a number of times
02:25
uh first of all navy pilots are you know
02:28
i’ve
02:28
met guys those guys quite a few times
02:31
through the years a lot of
02:32
good guys you know navy pilots and
02:34
they’re very qualified pilots good guys
02:36
smart guys all that sort of stuff so i
02:38
mean
02:39
i have respect for them as a cadre and
02:41
certainly individually the
02:43
some of the guys i’ve met there have
02:44
been you know high-end high-end people
02:47
so i would tend to respect what they say
02:48
their comments on it and one of those
02:50
pilots now you don’t have too much in
02:52
there that’s that’s said
02:53
you don’t have anything conclusive in
02:55
there and it cuts off so you don’t know
02:58
what happens
02:58
i mean does the thing go away at you
03:01
know warp two
03:02
or or what happens you don’t know so
03:04
there’s a lot of
03:05
missing information in there now
03:08
supposedly
03:10
back when these were early uh you know
03:12
captured on film
03:14
uh the reason that they weren’t released
03:16
and what has been said since then by the
03:18
pentagon
03:19
is that there were good national
03:20
security reasons why they weren’t
03:21
released well now they’re released and
03:23
you’re looking at it and go well what
03:24
are those national security concerns
03:26
and i think because they didn’t have a
03:28
good explanation for them
03:30
although i i do question why these are
03:32
cut off why is it just uh
03:34
you know these are each very short
03:35
videos why don’t we have a
03:37
a longer video now something happened to
03:40
that thing and you know these navy
03:41
pilots didn’t
03:43
you know follow it for 30 seconds ago
03:44
okay that’s enough turn it off let’s go
03:46
home
03:46
you know they were they were sticking in
03:47
there they were going to go see what it
03:49
was too they would have wanted to know
03:50
and their that’s their job they were
03:52
out looking around to see what what the
03:54
heck was going on and who was it
03:56
so they would have continued pursuit
03:59
unless
04:00
somehow the aircraft got away well that
04:02
would be interesting news and they would
04:04
have
04:04
uh data telemetry type data on this
04:08
other aircraft and how it went away so
04:10
we’re getting partial information
04:13
i question why we’re getting that
04:15
because perhaps there’s something in
04:16
there that
04:16
that is scary and that’s why it’s the
04:19
national security concern
04:21
just because that aircraft performs at a
04:24
certain level that we’re not familiar
04:26
with
04:27
is not proof of aliens although clearly
04:30
i mean
04:31
being realistic i suppose there’s there
04:32
is you know some measure of
04:34
chance that that’s the case uh but i
04:37
would you know my first guess would be
04:38
that you know maybe the so
04:40
the russians or chinese have developed
04:42
something and they were using it off the
04:43
coast of the united states or
04:45
some u.s territory to see what they
04:48
could see with it and try and use it
04:49
might have been an unmanned
04:51
there’s been a lot of progress with
04:52
unmanned aircraft so something like that
04:54
would be able to maneuver in a way
04:56
that manned aircraft would not be able
04:59
to
04:59
one of the comments that came out of
05:01
that that the man made made a comment
05:03
that
05:03
the the aircraft was rotating i find
05:05
that very interesting but
05:07
what i would what i’m really curious
05:09
about and what we need to all see in
05:11
order to kind of decide what to think of
05:12
this is what’s
05:14
what’s the end you know what happens
05:16
after that
05:17
that when you see those little lines
05:19
come in and focus on it and then it’s
05:21
tracking in the camera
05:22
and you some of the films you see it’s
05:24
kind of sliding and then it comes back
05:25
and it slides and comes back
05:27
then it gets locked once it gets locked
05:29
that
05:30
pilot and like i said these navy pilots
05:32
are good guys they’re well trained
05:34
very capable guys uh you know there’s
05:37
ones with more experience and ones with
05:38
less experience but they’re still
05:40
you know capable people so he didn’t
05:42
just like
05:43
lose it you know after that so that that
05:47
information’s missing and i would be
05:48
curious about all of that
05:50
that’s kind of the final element to me
05:51
now like i said i know a lot of people
05:54
take a look at this and
05:55
consider proof but that you can’t see
05:57
enough detail of those things to really
05:59
decide
06:00
what they are it does look circular in
06:03
some ways
06:05
it does appear to be moving and rotating
06:06
in ways that a a normal aircraft
06:08
wouldn’t but
06:09
perhaps there was some sort of change in
06:11
direction or something where the
06:12
airplane
06:13
the other aircraft shifted and it gave
06:15
the appearance of
06:16
rotating where uh you know it might have
06:19
continued in
06:20
its thing there are aircraft where the
06:22
wings move and stuff too
06:23
and in an experimental aircraft maybe
06:25
you know the wings fold in it just goes
06:27
like a rocket and then goes low and
06:29
disappears into the ocean who knows what
06:31
just floats there until it’s picked up
06:33
uh i don’t know i’m speculating wildly
06:35
now but
06:36
uh my first guest would not be aliens
06:39
i’m not a big believer in that sort of
06:40
thing so it’s kind of not my first
06:42
guess i would say you know always be
06:44
suspicious of
06:46
my fellow mankind first for these sorts
06:48
of things
06:49
and then worry about the
06:51
extraterrestrials and uh
06:53
you know i don’t know if i was going to
06:54
travel light years to get here i’d want
06:56
at least stop in and say hello rather
06:58
than just flying around out of the ocean
07:00
with
07:01
you know trick aircraft and not not not
07:02
at least pop in for coffee
07:04
so i i’m a little surprised that uh that
07:08
that there’s so much belief in that but
07:11
you
07:12
you never know it’s it’s a it’s
07:13
certainly a theoretically feasible
07:15
possibility for it to be aliens but
07:18
based on these films there’s there is no
07:20
proof
07:21
there may be some evidence of something
07:23
unusual but there is no proof so
07:25
uh to those who are interested in that
07:27
to the ufo believers
07:29
i would say go after that tail end of
07:31
these videos to find out
07:33
how it ended what happened where that
07:35
aircraft disappeared from view because
07:37
certainly
07:37
the navy has more than enough capability
07:40
to call up as many aircraft as they need
07:42
for whatever it is they need those two
07:44
aircraft that were out there apparently
07:46
uh certainly were not the end of our
07:47
resources and they could have tracked
07:49
that
07:49
that other aircraft for a long time with
07:52
using all sorts of
07:54
airborne capabilities so that’s what’s
07:56
missing why that hasn’t been released i
07:58
think is a very interesting question
08:00
that’s what
08:00
that’s what needs to be focused on it
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would have been really helpful if there
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was
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any indication of scale in any of those
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videos because that’s
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the other thing too is was this a small
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drone or was this uh i mean that
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the lack of indication of scale is is an
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interesting data point right all by
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itself
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it is you know we don’t have included in
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that the navy pilots would have the
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information on its speed for example
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they would have had a pretty good idea
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of the size the scale that you’re
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mentioning of the aircraft
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and uh you know where did it go
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and like i say if it if it if it turned
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and sped off
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at you know mach 25
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then you know i would be looking that
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going holy moly i mean there’s a problem
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here of some sort because
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if somebody else here on this planet is
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doing that then we’ve got problems
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if it’s somebody from some place place
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else that’s here doing that then we’ve
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got problems
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no matter how you slice it we need to
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figure this out you know
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that would be my immediate reaction to
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it so i
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it’s extraordinarily important data
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that’s just not left out but there is
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some sort of
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security element to it and i would say
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the the government
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tends to error towards trying to avoid
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people
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panicking which uh
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you know even with all the scare tactics
09:22
it’s used in covet 19 i haven’t seen
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that many people
09:25
panic per se a few guys that you know
09:27
getting fist bites in the
09:29
costco over the last case of water you
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see some of that sort of thing but like
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widespread panic and stuff
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you know you haven’t really seen not
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that it couldn’t be done but i don’t
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think by information like that
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i just don’t think you’re going to see
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the people panic in the street so me i
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would personally
09:44
just throw it out there and let me add
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one other thing kind of in conclusion
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we had a former president united states
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jimmy carter that was a big believer in
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ufos and one of the things he swore to
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do when he
09:56
got if he became president was to go
09:58
look into all this and make it public
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and
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he was fully convinced that the federal
10:02
government was hiding information on
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ufos
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so that so did hillary clinton so did
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hillary clinton as
10:08
one of her campaign promises and by far
10:10
the most amusing one
10:11
is that if she was elected she would
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release all the government data on ufos
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that’s interesting yeah i didn’t i
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wasn’t aware that of hillary
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so she didn’t get elected so we don’t
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know we haven’t had the opportunity to
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see what
10:22
she might have come up with but jimmy
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carter did do that and he did go in and
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look at everything
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i would be surprised to find that if
10:31
he’s
10:31
actively looking for something out of
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the navy that the navy didn’t give to
10:35
him he is commander-in-chief
10:37
those people understand following orders
10:39
and receiving orders and giving orders
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but
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uh i i just i can’t believe that they
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would have hidden from the president
10:45
united states something that he
10:47
demanded to be shown out of the military
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out of the navy specifically so
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um i tend to think that there is no real
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evidence
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i tend to think that what they find as a
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national security problem would be
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the that this is technology by somebody
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else that fits
11:04
the criteria of the situation we’re
11:05
faced with so as i often mentioned
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optimus razer what’s the simplest
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explanation for the data that we have
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and that’s the simplest explanation that
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there is some sort of technological
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aspect to this that’s
11:17
that’s fairly advanced that would that
11:20
could be judged
11:20
threatening and so the government
11:22
doesn’t want to release that out they’re
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going to study it themselves
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which there’s some appropriateness to
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that and
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but they didn’t want wouldn’t want to
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create any sort of general panic
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letting people know that uh somebody
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else out there on this planet has got an
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advanced technology that we don’t have
11:38
you know that’s bad press so they would
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want to avoid avoid
11:42
those sorts of issues so that to me is
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the
11:45
simplest explanation for what we know so
11:47
far
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last question on this in uh sometime
11:51
late last year
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putin announced he actually showed
11:55
footage of it
11:56
that they had some missile that was
11:58
unstoppable that was mock
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i don’t know mack double digits i think
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and that it was maneuverable in flight
12:06
that could reach any target on earth
12:07
within a matter of an hour or two or
12:09
something it was just
12:10
crazy fast hypersonic missile nuclear
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capable
12:14
and um but and could maneuver while in
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flight
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but yes i think that if this was that
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we would they would have been able to
12:24
identify it i mean there’s there’s
12:25
footage of that right
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correct and i don’t think that’s i don’t
12:28
think these are same things because
12:30
what we saw in the video this thing was
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flying and you can
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see that there’s what looks like ground
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below some of these shots so
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i mean it may have been up quite high
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it’s hard to it’s just so hard to tell
12:40
from what we see in the
12:42
in these videos what they would have
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would be much different and far
12:45
uh far more revealing of the details
12:49
than what we’re able to see out of these
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videos well let’s let’s put it this way
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i have a hard time believing that an f8
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and us
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2020 or 2017 even u.s navy f-18
13:02
has a 360 p um black and white camera
13:06
i i just i’m pretty damn sure the
13:09
footage we saw
13:10
has very little relationship to the one
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i think what they’ve done is what
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they’ve released were the leaked
13:15
materials and that anything that hadn’t
13:17
already been leaked
13:18
they’ve held back and like i said it’s
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probably because there’s some
13:22
technological things in there that they
13:23
want you know they’re trying to you can
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reverse engineer from seeing the
13:27
performance of something
13:29
so i think that would be the the
13:31
national security element to this uh
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and that would be you know very un
13:36
reasonable reaction to that of you
13:38
you came across it i mean it’s the
13:40
program that you’re gonna be working on
13:41
to develop that same technology
13:43
of course is gonna be classified so that
13:45
therefore that’s national security
13:47
and that’s something you don’t want to
13:48
go out to the public so if that’s indeed
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what’s going on i would say that’s just
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like
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pretty straightforward
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