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Haspel disobeys orders, delaying release of declassified scandal documents

Why haven’t we seen the information about the Russian investigation yet, even after Trump ordered it done? Blame Gina Haskel, CIA director, for refusing to obey direct orders. Why is Trump letting her get away with it and why it’s a political football so close to the elections?

Brad Johnson provides his analysis of the above and explains the process once she complies – a lot of review by various agencies is normal. Brad brings you his unique perspective from his 25 years with the CIA as a senior operative and station chief. Once retired, he formed Americans for Intelligence Reform to fight exactly the corruption and politics destroying our intelligence capabilities and threatening our national security.

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brad johnson it is october the 12th two
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days ago
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was the third day when president trump
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said
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that within the next three days the
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unredacted versions of all of these
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documents
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are going to appear and i don’t think
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they have
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and it would be great to know why
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and what we can expect well
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uh the process under which that’s done
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is uh they do have to be read through
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and looked at
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and the president has given the order
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that they be unredacted meaning
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you know nothing is blacked out or or
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canceled out on those documents as
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they’re given out but
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they still have to be reviewed and
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that’ll be done probably at the
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director of national intelligence’s
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office so there’s there’s documents to
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go through so there’s kind of
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separate areas of things going on all at
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the same time so
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we did have documents released a few
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days ago it was an
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another batch of uh hillary clinton’s
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emails
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that were released and i went through
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those and the press has gone through
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them and i’ve kind of read just to see
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what everybody
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else was saying about it and essentially
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there’s not that much there
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and uh they’re just talking the press
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basically spends it saying
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well it’s proof there was a lot of
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confusion during this
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benghazi attack which i you know there
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probably was a certain level of
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confusion during the benghazi attack but
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everyone needs to remember that those
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emails first of all some of them are
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redacted and second of all
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those are the things that hillary
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clinton gave to her lawyer
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her lawyer went through them picked out
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the ones that they were going to release
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i’m sure he did it in
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full consultation with hillary and her
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staff
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and so the ones that we’re seeing out of
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all this stuff have already been gone
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through the fine-tooth comb
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and we’re not going to find anything in
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there if we can get our hands on the
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other ones
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which uh are probably sitting on
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anthony weiner’s laptop at quantico
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virginia
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held by the fbi or at least a certain
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percentage of them are sitting there
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that
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for whatever reason nobody wants to look
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at which
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you know like is an unbelievable level
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of political corruption that we’re
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seeing
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those need to be gone through and those
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classified documents are crimes that are
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sitting on that computer
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at any rate uh that aside uh the the
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second level is that these are being
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processed as
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as i as i said so they’re going to be
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gone through the president has given the
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order that they be released unredacted
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but still
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they have to go through the third area
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that’s that’s a problem that’s kind of
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delaying
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as well is that uh the federalists has
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been reporting and they’ve done
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excellent reporting on this up to now
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that gina haspel personally who’s the
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director of the cia
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is holding back the a large swath
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of documents that that president trump
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has or uh
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be released now i want to make a comment
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on this and hopefully president trump
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anyone
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who knows president trump personally
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would like to pass this message on
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please do the the way to handle this if
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he’s given an order
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and director haspel is refusing to obey
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it
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and she’s resisting all of this the i
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think what trump and the white house are
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looking at is they don’t want to fire
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her
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because that would be a huge step right
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before an election
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but there’s a lot of other things that
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you can do there’s administrative steps
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that can be taken and in that position
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now of course i’ve been around
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the swamp a lot longer but in that
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position what i would do is say i gave
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you an order
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you didn’t obey it so i’m sending you
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home
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on administrative leave unpaid
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administrative leave for
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three days two days one day a week
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whatever it doesn’t matter
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send her home then call in the deputy
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and say deputy
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i want these documents to go out that’s
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an order i want them out right now
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if the deputy refuses send him home or
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he adds to him in this case send him
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home on administrative leave for two or
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three days you’re not firing them
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you’re just taking administrative steps
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they failed to obey
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a direct order from the
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commander-in-chief the president united
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states
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and so they get they get sent home
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that’s their punishment for
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for three or four five days whatever the
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period of time is and then they come
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back in
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and just keep going down the line till
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you get the guy that will follow orders
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and once they follow orders then those
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things are out and they would be all
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released to the dni the dna could do
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whatever they do in that process
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and get them out that’s the perfect way
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to handle it or and it’s an example of a
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way that it could be handled
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administratively without taking
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extraordinary steps
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like firing the director of the cia so
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there’s a lot of interim steps the point
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is
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there’s a lot of interim steps that the
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president can take and he needs to get
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that message he’s just
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he’s not surrounded by people that have
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got a lot of experience in government
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and so he he doesn’t understand how
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these things work very well
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and this is an example of something that
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he could do that’s an interim step that
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would take care of the problem but
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i don’t like i said i just don’t think
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he’s surrounded by people that
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understand it it would not be
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a a huge step because the director of
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the cia would be
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coming back to the office after a couple
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days and
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we’ll be back in her position she’s not
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fired it would just be an administrative
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punishment for not following orders
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he did order these declassified and
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released
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uh rather than just authorize it then
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i would i think you’re making a
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distinction that does not exist i think
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they’re the same thing the president
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expressly has the authorities to
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declassify information he does not
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require
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the approval of the director of the cia
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he
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he can he can make that decision himself
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and
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declassifying classified information is
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much different than most people think
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as a former chief of station having been
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overseas
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chiefs of station for the cia also have
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the authorities to declassify now
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of course they’re not going to do stuff
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willy-nilly but we take information
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that’s classified and we share it with
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our
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liaison services our foreign partners as
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they’re called today
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so for example if if the uh and gina
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haspel knows this well she was the chief
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of station twice in london
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and the amount of information that we
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share with the brits is
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massive so it was those things were
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unclassified
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to give to the brits on a you know on a
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daily basis and
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hundreds of documents i’m sure uh under
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the authorities of gina haspel as
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chief of station there so i mean that’s
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that’s the way it works she understands
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those things well
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but the unfortunately the president is
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not but by giving the authority
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and uh uh and giving the order to do so
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those are all kind of really one thing
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so it’s it should be acted upon right
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away now for the dni to review them is
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still a normal
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normal step in it i’m not saying that
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shouldn’t be done
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but just so that they go through it and
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you have another opinion another set of
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eyes
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to look at it just to make sure they’re
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not missing something but
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the basis of all of those documents
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appears to be political
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not espionage or intelligence related
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so the the basis of them lacks any sort
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of reason to keep them classified
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and so there there has to be there may
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be an exception
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somewhere mixed into that but as a
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general rule that stuff
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can and should be immediately
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declassified which it won’t take long
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once
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uh dni gets them but like like i said
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apparently
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the main batch of this stuff is sitting
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uh
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underneath cia director gene haspel’s
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thumb
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at the cia
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