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welcome I’m Sam fattest this is in
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magazines ground truth and today we’re
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talking about the intelligence community
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state of it problems where we go from
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here this is the first of two segments
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we’re gonna do today is gonna sort of be
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the what’s wrong segment and then we’ll
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get to in the second part how we fix it
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with us to illuminate the issues
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Bradley Johnson who is a man of many
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parts a retired CIA operations officer
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former chief of station in other words
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he was the boss of CIA operations in
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particular countries ran the pith WIC
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program for a while which basically
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means he hunted war criminals a
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counterintelligence expert surveillance
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expert surveillance detection expert etc
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these days mr. Johnson is a columnist
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for The Epoch Times and a regular on one
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American news network welcome sir Sam
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great to be with you thank you so much
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so I mean you heard me intro this
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segment I I’d like to kind of start here
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for the last three years we’ve seen in
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in my opinion some really unprecedented
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and really troubling actions by folks
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associated with the intelligence
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community and I’m not touring the entire
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intelligence community by the ax stretch
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of the imagination filled with thousands
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of men and women doing God’s work every
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day but we’ve seen some folks it’s a
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very senior levels involved in political
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activity that I think I find very
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disturbing and very dangerous what’s
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what’s your perspective on what we’ve
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seen over the last few years I think
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that’s absolutely correct what’s what’s
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happened is that over time the entire
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leadership and pipeline into leadership
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has been taken over by a very hardcore
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liberal cadre that it’s politics for
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and that business of the nation’s second
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and now from that perspective they view
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what’s good for liberalism as the
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business of the nation but it just
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simply is not and there’s it almost
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always the virtues right away and their
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their allegiances to that political goal
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rather than the Constitution of the
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United States and the protection of the
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national security interests the United
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States so it’s it’s something where we
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now see it’s become very visible because
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President Trump was elected president
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Trump is an outsider so he’s not liked
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by many Republicans as well so he
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doesn’t really have within government
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any cadre of people that that are
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specifically trying to help him and he’s
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got a great connection to the people of
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the United States of America but that’s
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not who necessarily you don’t have that
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kind of crosscut within government
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government is an odd little thing having
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you as you have done as well having you
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come out of 25 years of living and
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working in the swamp it gives me a lot
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of perspective on how it works and the
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vast majority of people in government
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have never done anything else but work
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in government it’s a very small
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percentage of people and it was
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something for me now I actually came out
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of banking before I went to work at the
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CIA so I I’m damn you’re unique in the
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operations field at any rate having had
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quite a few years of banking under my
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belt before going into into the
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government so a lot of the things that
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were Don were just immediately apparent
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to me it’s very quirky and odd the way
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the rules were set up and all that so
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for president Trump I’m it’s a it’s a
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big transition and a lot of the people
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there aren’t even trying to help him so
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but back to the central question of it
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if with leadership at the I see the
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intelligence community being what it is
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they’re more looking for opportunities
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to damage President Trump his reputation
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or whatever they can do I mean with the
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ultimate goal hopefully of overturning
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the election getting rid of them but I
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think they recognize that that’s just
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not going to happen anymore so what
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they’re doing is looking for ways to
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damage I think certainly what we’ve seen
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with these so-called whistleblowers
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these are all inside
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people part of the intelligence
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community well known to the leadership
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of the intelligence community and in
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case your listeners have any doubt most
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of the people working in the National
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Security Council which is the White
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House intelligence staff more or less
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very loose description of it but those
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people all come from someplace else they
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come from the Pentagon or they’ll come
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from the CIA or they’ll come from the
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FBI or they’ll come from NSA they come
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from different agencies and they get
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sent there now those are the people that
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was a furious hiring frenzy to fill
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those slots plus many more that weren’t
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funded and so on at the end of the Obama
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administration so the NSC is jam-packed
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with those people that particular type
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of person and so Trump has been very
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slow to move to change that so you’ve
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got these people that were really
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hand-picked out of the agencies out of
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the leadership of the IC to be these
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politically reliable people from their
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perspective and that’s where we see
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people like the minimun twins and people
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like that and why they’ve been in
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position in contact with other you know
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liberal staffers on the hill that have
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come out of that same background and
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their friends and that’s why we seize
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these intelligence operations put
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together and run against the president
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the president not being of that world
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doesn’t understand really what he’s seen
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now that is beginning to shift and we’ve
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seen someone in Senate temporarily to
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take over the the Director of National
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Intelligence chair temporary fill
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someone permanent will be put in and and
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he’s removed a number of people and I
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think we’re gonna see that continuing I
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think the president is now kind of
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figured this out seeing that this isn’t
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you know a group of people that are his
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friends there are a lot of things I
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would point out that are just clear
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indicators of what do we really have in
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the and the intelligence community and
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let me just use one example it just
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stinks to high heaven and that’s every
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four years essentially every time
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new president or a president wins a new
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election it may be a second term for
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president or forced them either way
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every four years there’s a document that
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the strategy analysis that the
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intelligence community as a whole puts
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out the last one came out in 2017
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January 92 fire fall correctly and that
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was you know when President Trump
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assumed office and in that if you just
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go down and read the whole thing which I
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you know for for your listeners benefit
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I’ve tortured myself by doing that I’ve
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gone through the whole thing and if you
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look and compare global warming is
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featured far more with a lot more
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emphasis in that than terrorism now this
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is something that’s supposed to be
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analysis of global threats going on five
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to 20 years and and global warming is is
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is the focus of the intelligence
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agencies and IC over terrorism let me
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say even if which I would argue strange
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land a lot of data to show that global
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warming is just complete hoax and
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falsehood and there’s little to no
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evidence of any kind it even supports a
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theory for global warming but even if
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it’s true even if you believe in global
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warming I believe isn’t any part of it
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is true that’s still not where the
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intelligence community needs to be
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active that’s not where the intelligence
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community resources and and efforts need
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to be spent or expended and that being a
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higher priority clearly as reading
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through this this and this a quadrennial
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report indicates by by so much emphasis
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on global warming you can see that it’s
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a higher priority to those people than
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in terrorism which you know terrorism
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kills people we’ve all seen where cars
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and trucks has gone out on a bridge you
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just run over innocent random people and
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how you know god with an ax or a knife
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along the subway or out on the streets
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where there’s crowd of people just start
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randomly killing people now that is
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where the intelligence community needs
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to send its effort and time and and not
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on global warming
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so in pushing any of those sorts of
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things there’s many ways to fight those
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if you’re a strong believer that those
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are
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but it should not be any intelligence
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you just see the priorities and the
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understanding of how the world really
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works where if I order should be the
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importance of certain topics compared to
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others from an intelligence national
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security perspective it’s just not
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understood by these people there they do
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not understand how the business actually
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works because their apparatus that
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politicians they’re people that have
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worked on the hill as bureaucrats and
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all of these sorts of things and if you
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look as a whole I would say one of the
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weaknesses that we have is so few
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operators are actually put into
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positions of managing operational
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activity it’s mostly as I say that the
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term I like is the rocking on the
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apparatus the bureaucrats are the ones
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that run in everything and beautiful
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case in point is the 911 Commission and
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if you look at the list of who is this
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is a Bush President Bush’s time
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following 9/11 if you look at who is
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brought on to that Commission they were
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all basically people on describing
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lawyers and academics and politicians
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were brought on they’re all bureaucrats
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in essence not one person on that was a
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professional operator not in law
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enforcement operate inside of military
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operations not an intelligence
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operations not one and somebody get what
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you get is this ginormous report that
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that proposes a whole bunch of of
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bureaucracy as a solution to terrorism
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which anyone in the operations field of
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any kind law enforcement military
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intelligence we all look definitely yeah
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this is this is gonna make it worse not
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better and that’s in fact what we’ve
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seen if you’ve taken that same number of
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people commissioned and had all people
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that had 20 25 years 30 years of
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operations under the belt I guarantee
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you the report at the end of that would
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have been much different and focused on
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how do you actually destroy terrorism
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versus how do you build a bureaucracy so
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you can say hey you’re doing something
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against terrorism so this whole thing
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it’s all just swing out of control it’s
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very very very
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political everything that we see out of
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them is political in nature and no
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longer do we have the priority the
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interests of the of the American people
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at heart out of the I see and now I do
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reiterate Sam what you said and that is
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that there are a lot of very good people
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many of them friends of mine and rip
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currents of yours that are still in the
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intelligence community doing their job
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and at the working level yeah an average
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person is just a normal person doing a
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normal job that understands that they
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have respect for the Constitution United
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States that respect for our way of life
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they want to do what’s best for national
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security but as soon as as soon as they
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start to drop that that just starts to
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evaporate and that as ice’ mentioned
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earlier alluded to that that pipeline
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leadership has long been controlled by
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liberals and to get into that if you’re
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not part of the old boys network which
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in that case a and welcome into this is
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the old game network I guess would be
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the better term but if you’re not part
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of that little liberal cadre liberal
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perspective I’ve seen it happen directly
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many many times you just do not get the
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jobs that will that will catapult you
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into leadership you’re you’re moved
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aside into other jobs and those jobs are
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reserved for their own people and in
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government now there’s a lot of control
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over how people get promoted and it’s
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you know colorblind and all those who
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don’t you can’t see who the person is or
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judge them based on race creed religion
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all of those things so it’s very take
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controls on those promotions but there’s
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zero control and it’s 100% manipulated
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in the system as to who gets what job
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there are zero controls over that so
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that is 100% manipulated by leadership
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so that only their crew gets into those
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jobs and that’s what gets those people
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into the leadership by lot so this
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that’s truly a mess and what we’ve seen
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now is just the tip of the iceberg
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and it’s only floating to the surface
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because of President Trump because
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they’re taking so many actions to try
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and destroy President Trump
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underneath it all there’s that’s much
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worse than anyone I think most people
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would appreciate without me
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talking about it in more detail and the
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the just the depth that goes to him and
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the breath that goes who’s really
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alarming and something’s certainly that
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needs to be corrected and hopefully some
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of these changes that we’re seeing our
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president compliment the people now that
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he’s bringing in and beginning of
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recognition of this as an issue
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hopefully and the odds are he’s going to
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be reelected so hopefully over the next
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five years we’re gonna start to see them
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swamped get drained some of us we
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cleaned up and I I don’t think it’s
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something that President Trump will be
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able to accomplish in five years but
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certainly he chip away at it and make
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some positive differences yeah you know
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you’ve hit on so many really great
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points there I mean I think the average
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American maybe only now after having
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observed what’s going on over the last
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three years is beginning to appreciate
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so much of what you said I mean to begin
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with you kind of have this common sense
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idea that the president gets elected and
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he appoints X number of cabinet
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secretaries and from that point on the
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president’s in control of the government
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and the government should be doing what
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the president tells it and as you’ve
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pointed out very eloquently know we have
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a vast unbelievably large army of
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bureaucrats what what I call mandarins
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but your term is it’s good to who don’t
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believe that they are required to follow
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the dictates of the president in fact to
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the contrary apparently believed that
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it’s their complete right to oppose him
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I was at a meeting the other day down in
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DC and a guy was talking about how he
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had just driven into CIA headquarters
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and as he’s going through one of the
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gates there the car in front of him has
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a bumper sticker on it that says resist
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which of course is code for opposing the
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President of the United States so here’s
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somebody who is apparently a staff
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officer at Central Intelligence Agency
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driving to work and believes it it is
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their right to
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actively opposed the president also
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resonates very much with me you know
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what I would call sort of it defanging
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or deep professionalization of the
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intelligence community man both you and
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I are former operations officer so our
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job is to run operations and recruit
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sources and yet if I was to walk around
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Washington DC it seems like every other
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person I meet will tell me he’s an
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intelligence officer and yet none of
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them have actually ever recruited
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sources or run operations they sit
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behind desks in Washington and they’re
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not analysts either they are just what
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what you referenced is is is bureaucrats
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I I when I came onto the agency it
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seemed to me that the leadership was
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composed largely of crusty old guys who
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drank too much and probably won’t
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particularly great husbands or Father’s
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because they spent all their time
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working but they had spent 30 years in
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all the dusty dangerous places of the
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world and that whole cast of character
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seems to be either gone or if they exist
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they’re not in leadership any more well
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I would say yeah I this was told to me
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by someone who still working at the
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agency an active person who’s now gone
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to the ages are kind of in in the
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leadership roles and just made a comment
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in passing but it’s stuck with me and
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their comment was that anybody good is
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gone and I think that’s the absolute
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truth across the board and let me say
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this I would include the FBI much of the
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military now and most assuredly the the
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CIA that basically everybody good is
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gone now this is a long time coming it
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was a pattern that had developed
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certainly under even you know I think
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Jimmy Carter kind of started the ball
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rolling in that direction and it was
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pretty well consolidated during the
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Clinton years and then absolutely
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finished off and completed fully
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completed under or under Obama and I
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would specifically refer back to
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CIA director John Brennan who bragged on
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NPR in an interview there that
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essentially he had done away with
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operations that now you know we you know
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use other methods but we no longer are
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out at you know conducting unilateral se
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module I just explained it a little bit
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I don’t seem you’re familiar with it but
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by unilateral what I’m referring to is
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only we would know so as a CIA operator
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the recruitment that Sam mentioned
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earlier would be out in some other
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country looking for an individual who
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has access to that country’s secrets
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that we want to know like if they’re
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making any plans against the United
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States or if they’re involved in
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corruption narcotics you smuggling
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whatever it is we would want to know
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what is there croaking what are their
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secrets what are they trying to do
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against the interests of national
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security United States of America so
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that was that espionage aspect and only
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we would know and nowadays what this has
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continued ever since the Obama days when
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John Brennan was director he moved to a
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position where we rely exclusively on
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our what they now call form partners our
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overseas partners so the objective now
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and the way operations have done is
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they’ll go out and say to X country X
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country we need a reporting source on
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this stuff over here and it’s
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comfortable yeah sure I got somebody for
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you and you know as many times it’s not
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us that a brother-in-law they don’t
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report that and this brother-in-law gets
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paid so they slip the money and this
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wherever the original person is you
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asked will feed them information there’s
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a lot of corruption built into it but
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inherently is absolutely bass-ackwards
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wrong way to go in the intelligence
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field because then that is in bilateral
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or perhaps multilateral way of
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conducting espionage and what I mean by
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that is that host country is aware of
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the case now that’s built to not work
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because most countries you have other
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intelligence agencies working against
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them as well so this third this other
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country we’ve gone to and asked for
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reporting source
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you know prove to me the Chinese don’t
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have them penetrate it prove to me the
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Russians don’t have been penetrated so
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prove to me that those guys aren’t aware
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of our case and if they’re aware of our
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case they can manipulate it they can
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feed us false information all sorts of
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things to manipulate what we consider
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intelligence so that’s not unilateral
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espionage so it’s well there is a place
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in the world for that sort of thing that
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should not be where our efforts go and
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nowadays the people that are there don’t
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even understand the difference most of
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those guys wouldn’t understand the
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active duty our cooperation is also
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today wouldn’t understand the
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explanation I’ve just escaped they would
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disagree because they don’t know about
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it to know what to do or say it’s just
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it’s a it’s a penis degradation in our
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capabilities oh and one more thing – on
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it that you mentioned earlier about
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these people feel that they can have
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this resist on the bumper sticker by the
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way in the hallways of these all these
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federal agencies that’s common I mean
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it’s the rule not the exception and
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people in the lunch rooms is walking
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down the hall when Trump was elected
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they were all saying oh you know we’ve
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got to figure out how to resist and and
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there is there are exceptions but the
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closer you get to leadership the fewer
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they there are and so the people who
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talk that way are perfectly open about
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it and are able to say these sorts of
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things openly and and anyone who thinks
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differently just has to keep their head
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down their mouths shut because if you
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openly come out and say look you guys
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you know they’re saying he resists the
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president United States you’re freakin
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traitors you know you’re traitors to the
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to the national security the United
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States of America you don’t belong here
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with us with a clearance and just you
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kind of cling order on all of this when
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Trump sent Vince men back to the
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Pentagon he’s one of the guys that
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testified against Trump on these charges
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that were just ridiculous in every way
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no facts to back them up he gets sent
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back to the Pentagon and makes it
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comment his army and made a comment to
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the effect that this guy should be
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investigated the very next day
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the chief of the army and I forget his
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name right now but the head of the army
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of made a made a comment that Veneman is
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not going to be investigated now I who’s
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never the military to work with them for
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decades so you know have basic
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understanding of how particularly the
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army works but for the chief of the army
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to come out publicly state the president
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says yesterday we need to investigate
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investigate Benjamin and the chief Mary
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comes out says anything happened from
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boss you know we’re not doing it
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publicly now for Trump he’s went on he
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didn’t really react to that because he
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just used that as most civilians would
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it’s like yeah okay whatever but for the
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army in the military as a whole for that
22:44
guy to stand up the very main stage say
22:46
we’re not gonna do it is absolutely
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spitting president Trump’s face now
22:51
president pumped like I said he doesn’t
22:53
understand that doesn’t do it but
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everybody in the military does everybody
22:57
understands exactly what that was that
23:00
guy was stating president Trump space
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directly publicly openly in from all to
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see and now Trump unfortunately not
23:08
understanding the swamp like I said just
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didn’t views that way doesn’t use it
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that way now but he’s a fired that guy
23:15
the same day and if he’d have been
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analyst say he was building a building
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and talking to all unions and had a
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massive meeting with all the unions and
23:24
his employees there and all of those
23:26
people you know that would have been
23:29
something were here to fire that guy
23:31
right on the spot the guy would have
23:32
convinced it out of the building so it’s
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a army secretary Ryan McCarthy that’s it
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that was the guy that made the comment
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so he’s a head of the army within drunky
23:42
so that was the guy that said we’re not
23:44
gonna do it that’s the guy that
23:46
president prompted a fire right on the
23:48
spot and unfortunately like I said he
23:50
doesn’t understand what happened there
23:52
and so hasn’t responded appropriately
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but
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again I don’t think he understands
23:58
bureaucracy and swampert well which got
24:00
blessing for that
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I can’t criticize anyone for that but
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one of the weaknesses that happens is
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this sort of thing where those things
24:09
are allowed to go unpunished and as the
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head of the military is the President of
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the United States this can work for him
24:16
and he has everyone that everybody in
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the military would also understand it’s
24:21
like okay you want to go up against me
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while I’m president you’re not you know
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I invite you to succeed elsewhere and
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that’s what should have happened that
24:28
has not and Sam I hope you’re able to
24:30
you know bringing the President to
24:32
listen to this interview that would be
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my first recommendation for was to go
24:36
act on that and that then put you in
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charge you have this type of
24:40
insubordination within the military this
24:43
is not this is not this isn’t what you
24:46
need within the military more coherence
24:49
and the willingness to you know obey
24:52
orders and salute them and you know keep
24:56
this thing running smoothly and have
24:58
that type of open insubordination and
24:59
something that you just can’t tolerate
25:01
whether that guys right or wrong in his
25:04
argument if he believes something so
25:07
strongly his duties to retire and leave
25:10
resign over it it’s not to stand up and
25:12
publicly fight with the president over
25:14
it so it’s something we’ll see we’ll see
25:17
how that goes forward I mean the
25:19
president is constitutionally the
25:20
commander in chief so he is sort of the
25:22
general of all generals and you know you
25:25
reference VIN Minh at some point before
25:27
VIN Minh testified Binh Minh was told
25:29
the president you knighted States told
25:30
of Inman he didn’t want him to testify
25:32
so he’s a serving active duty lieutenant
25:35
colonel who the commander in chief just
25:38
told not to appear on Capitol Hill he
25:41
appears on Capitol Hill and sits down
25:43
and wears his uniform and then makes a
25:46
pointed makes a you know a very strong
25:50
point if demanding to be referred to as
25:52
looked kind of Colonel when I saw that I
25:54
thought okay I don’t I don’t really
25:55
understand at all what I’m seeing if if
25:57
you are here as a private citizen and
26:00
your claim is that this doesn’t have
26:01
anything to do with your military duties
26:03
and therefore the president can’t
26:05
command you not to be here then you
26:08
should be sitting here in a
26:09
suit as mr. VIN Minh you can’t sit here
26:13
as lieutenant-colonel vaneman a serving
26:15
active duty officer in defiance of the
26:18
orders of the commander in chief and
26:20
sort of have it have it both both ways
26:24
you made reference much earlier when the
26:27
beginning of this to how President Trump
26:30
is is I mean it’s Nick but not a
26:32
Democrat but is certainly not a
26:34
traditional Republican either and and
26:37
one of the implications we’re talking
26:39
about this whole business with his vast
26:40
bureaucracy is that you know if a
26:43
Democratic president comes in and they
26:44
they have to feel literally thousands of
26:47
spots appointments the Democratic Party
26:50
basically has what amounts to a team on
26:54
deck folks that have served in previous
26:56
administrations and so forth and they
26:58
can come up with that those appointments
27:00
relatively rapidly in the Republican
27:02
establishment would have the same thing
27:04
all these guys that used to serve under
27:07
the second George Bush etc Trump arrived
27:11
in Washington not only not knowing the
27:13
swamp never having worked in DC but with
27:17
no such rolodex so I mean he came in
27:20
with a handful of guys and I think I
27:24
mean somebody told me the other day that
27:26
maybe now after her impeachment has
27:29
crashed and burned three years into this
27:32
we’re finally gonna see the first two
27:34
days of the Trump administration what’s
27:38
their point now now finally three years
27:40
into this clear of this and now
27:43
understanding the swamp only now are we
27:46
really gonna see Donald Trump begin to
27:48
actually appoint his larger team in
27:52
Washington DC
27:55
well that’s very aptly laid out and
27:58
absolutely cracked the president just as
27:59
is has only now begun to figure all of
28:03
this out now and and then probably miss
28:06
phrasing that a little bit because it’s
28:07
not so much that he didn’t have it
28:11
figured out because he’s been told by
28:12
many people and very publicly by example
28:15
for example Rush Limbaugh has talked
28:17
about how he told the president you
28:18
knighted States look these guys you know
28:20
they’re all gonna hate you forever
28:21
there’s nothing you can do about but the
28:23
president’s state sigh think he honestly
28:24
believed that he was going to come in
28:28
and show everyone that he’s honestly
28:31
trying to do what he believes is best
28:33
for the nation and then he would
28:35
convince people to come over and help
28:37
him he thought he was going to have
28:39
Democrats kind of fall into line and
28:41
Republicans fall into line and that he
28:43
didn’t need his own cadre because
28:45
everyone would see it he’s genuinely
28:48
trying to do the right thing where they
28:50
may disagree over and helman here
28:51
they’re they’ve exceeded the common goal
28:53
where we should all work together is
28:55
that doing what’s best for the nation
28:57
but Matt goes back to one of my earlier
29:00
points if that’s not the case with any
29:03
socialist philosophy which liberals
29:05
today are clearly so it was it’s it’s
29:08
politics first they give everything
29:10
through this prism everything is
29:11
political every decision and that’s why
29:14
even seeing the educational system they
29:16
don’t have economic education you don’t
29:19
get a degree in economics and like a AC
29:22
she says she’s a chef degree in
29:23
economics but she does not she has a
29:25
degree in political economics she has a
29:27
socialist education in so-called
29:30
economics which brings in their their
29:33
political will in to it for example if
29:36
if a town over here it has unemployment
29:39
well then we should just force company X
29:41
to put a plant there so that there’s
29:43
more job for him and that doesn’t take
29:44
into account any of the economic factors
29:46
how far away is it is us you know
29:50
sources that it needs to produce
29:51
whatever the product is how far away is
29:53
it transportation wise from where X
29:55
product gets sold all those things are
29:57
ignored because it’s political economics
29:59
now real recognize you take all those
30:01
things into account you want your the
30:04
whatever the sources are you need to
30:05
build your product as you know close as
30:07
possible as cheap as possible you want
30:09
your production in an area where you
30:11
have educated people that you need to
30:12
produce whatever it is you want to be as
30:14
close to your market as you can so that
30:16
all of your transportation costs and and
30:19
and product costs are as low as possible
30:21
to sell and make a greater profit but
30:23
that has nothing whatsoever to do
30:25
political economics and that’s why we
30:27
see people like AFC which is
30:28
unfortunately all too common out there
30:31
promoting some of these second
30:32
okay these they have which are based on
30:34
political G wouldn’t this be nice sort
30:36
of philosophy versus anything real so
30:40
the whole thing is just unusual and the
30:44
person has been kind of trapped into
30:46
this thought of showing everyone that
30:48
he’s trying to do the right thing
30:49
thinking they’ll come around well and I
30:51
think now that light has finally done
30:53
often it said where he sees it’s just
30:55
never gonna happen and the depth that
30:57
these people will seem to like all of
31:00
the things that you just pointed out
31:01
about the lieutenant colonel Feynman you
31:03
know he’s just he doesn’t view the
31:06
national security and the Constitution
31:09
United States the same way that people
31:11
like ourselves who are actual Patriots
31:13
view it and so that gives them this
31:16
excuse because their politics are more
31:18
important and it’s a real problem now
31:21
how the how much the person can do are
31:24
as I said earlier it remains to be seen
31:26
but certainly I think he’s now about a
31:29
new clean of what needs to be done and I
31:31
think it’s gonna begin it has begun with
31:34
the new employment at least temporary
31:37
appointment to the DNI chair so
31:39
hopefully we’ll see a party guy come in
31:41
the names I’ve seen being bandied about
31:44
for a permanent solution and I think
31:46
they have a permanent nominee don’t look
31:49
good to me I I know a couple of them
31:51
personally and and there’s a
31:54
bureaucratic apparatchik you know former
31:55
politicians and things like that that
31:57
are not going to be a solution if the
32:00
president doesn’t bring in an operator
32:01
somebody who actually understands how to
32:04
do things versus how to sit in an office
32:07
and read about it and pontificate over
32:10
it and being you know the political
32:12
bureaucrat reaction to it he doesn’t
32:15
pick somebody he’s got that operational
32:16
background then then we’re just not
32:19
gonna see a lot of change and I’m not
32:20
sure that that concept is woman he’s
32:23
fully absorbed yet so we’ll see I think
32:25
this is gonna be a great indicator as to
32:27
who see who he selects to sit to sit in
32:30
the Director of National Intelligence
32:31
Sharing
32:32
and and good feel good measure of what’s
32:35
coming based on that
32:37
well Brad we’re gonna leave it there for
32:39
today because I think that’s a perfect
32:40
ending to kind of laying out the problem
32:42
and in our second segment we will pick
32:46
up and kind of dive into the weeds on
32:50
you know how to get back to the days
32:52
where we know how to conduct espionage
32:54
and we stop trying to overturn the
32:55
president United States I want to thank
32:57
you for being with us today Sam thank
33:00
you so much for having me and thank you
33:02
for listening we’ll talk to you next
33:03
time on ground truth
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