Conspiracy to overthrow the government, lying to Congress, lying to investigators and, yes, treason all are mentioned on this unconfirmed list. If AG Barr does proceed as claimed, this is astonishing information. Brad Johnson, former Senior CIA Officer and President of Americans for Intelligence Reform, may see Justice served – as will all Americans.
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Brad Johnson it is May the 18th 2020 and
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this feels like it’s the sort of
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fulmination of two years of talking
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about this subject we have discussed the
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fact that someday indictments may happen
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based on the deep state attempt to
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overthrow the government or treason or I
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guess it’s sometimes it’s parsing it
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pretty pretty finely but and it looks
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like it looks like that list is now
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available the list of people who may be
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formally charged for all this death if I
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have that at all right can you please
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explain it sure I in at let me just say
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I do have a list of indictments we’re
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going to be able to go over it these are
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I would say unconfirmed and this was
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there’s another show the Chris McDonald
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show that’s the Mac files is what it’s
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called he was the one that got this list
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it is from a longtime friend of his who
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is in some way associated with the
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prosecutor’s office who’s in helping in
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in some way with this with this at
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Durham investigation so now this is
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information isn’t classified but it’s
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also unconfirmed and not something that
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they would be particularly anxious to
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have out so it’s one of those things
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that I would say it’s very interesting
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and seems to sound about right but take
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it with a grain of salt I’ll put it that
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way so you don’t know so however Chris
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who’s also a friend of mine that does
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the Mac files show has quite a little
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bit of confidence in this so you know
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we’re going to see fairly soon and it
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would be interesting if there are starts
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to be cracks around the shroud of
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secrecy of the of this what looks like
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criminal prosecution that’s that’s
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getting ready to take place now so on
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the list itself what is by far the most
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interesting kind of from my opinion is
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the John Brennan and it’s one of the
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things that I have long said that if you
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look at the you know of oi cities that
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spider at the center of the web and and
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essentially the you know
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roads lead to John Brennan and that’s
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something we’ve talked about used many
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times now to put it more succinctly from
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my perspective that my take on it is
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that that if you look at secondary
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analysis where you’re looking at all the
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connections between everyone and
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everything you find nexus points where
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you know everything kind of gets led
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back to one individual and the main
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nexus point that I have seen as we go
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through all of this and as the
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information comes out is John Brennan
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and that’s why I say all roads lead back
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to John Brennan so John Brennan in this
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list that we have that like I said it’s
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unconfirmed but it is very interesting
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is that he’s going to be faced with
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three counts of conspiracy to overthrow
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the government three counts of lying to
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Congress which by the way he was already
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found not one thing happened to him but
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he was already spying on Congress and
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Senators back when he was director of
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the CIA got caught doing it and lied
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about it to Congress and then had to
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come out and apologize for all of that
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nothing really happened to him because
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he had the protection of the Obama
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administration but he’s already been had
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that problem precisely so since he got
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away with it it certainly makes sense to
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me that that would be something he would
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feel basically immune to continue doing
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so three counts of conspiracy to
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overthrow the government three counts of
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lying to Congress two counts of lying to
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investigators that would be the FBI or
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DOJ one count of conspiracy to commit
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treason and three counts of obstruction
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of justice now the treason is is the
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600-pound gorilla in the room and
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everyone well I’m sure we’ll remember
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something we’ve talked about for a very
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long time the day after the Muller
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investigation ended US Attorney General
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Barr reinstated the federal death
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penalty and I have always said that is
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no coincidence that was done on purpose
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that US Attorney General Barr is very
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deliberate person and he knew as soon as
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there was nobody found guilty there was
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no actual underlying crime that could be
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shown to be the case against Trump or
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his campaign or anyone associated with
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his administer
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he knew that what had happened therefore
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was treasonous and that was done on
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purpose to put that death penalty on the
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table and I I would say that is and all
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of these charges that are on this list
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that’s that’s the one that would
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definitely carry the death penalty if it
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goes to trial and as something I’ve
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often said is and force ever since this
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happened with with malaria arming with
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yesterday agenda bar reinstating the
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death penalty is that I personally view
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this as a big positive now it may sound
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cruel to suggest that the death penalty
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for someone would be a good thing but
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people have to remember that the death
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penalty is meant to be a deterrent
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against those crimes taking place in the
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future particularly egregious murders
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for example you want the death penalty
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for those people like serial killers to
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discourage other people from doing it in
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the future
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and that’s precisely why I would say
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that if all of this is true and he
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actually you know goes to trial which he
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won’t but if he were to do so it would
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be a very healthy thing for the United
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States of America if he was indeed
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treasonous and and try and betrayed his
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country that he gets the death penalty
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because what does it do it acts as a
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deterrent for future traitors and also
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that’s why the recidivism rate for
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people that get to death penalty is very
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low yes that’s very true yeah as far as
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I know that that’s zero I guess that
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would need to be proven so it is one of
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those things that I I think would be
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healthy now to go on to the other ones
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they’re interesting too but there are
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some differences to it you’ll notice
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that John Brennan had three counts of
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conspiracy to overthrow the government
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now a conspiracy to overthrow the
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government and treason are you know even
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semantically not being lawyers we can
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see that there is a difference trying to
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overthrow the government and committing
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treason there is a distinction and I
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don’t know it would be interesting to
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see once this comes out publicly whether
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all the legal eagles have to say about
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it and if the death penalty would also
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be on the table as part of the possible
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punishment for
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he’d overthrow the government now to me
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just a layman on these things it makes
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sense that that would be essentially
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treason and and and also the death
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penalty could be applied to that but
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again on the Brennan thing he does he
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has according to this list which as I
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said is unconfirmed he is going to be
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charged with one count of treason and if
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that’s true he would have the definitely
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on the table and as I’ve often said
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there’s just no way in in God’s green
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earth that a guy like former CIA
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director John Brennan is going to take
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the risk of going to a jury trial and if
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he loses getting the death penalty he’s
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just not going to risk that that means
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he’s going to have to basically take
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whatever deals put on the table and just
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to plead guilty to all this stuff and I
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would expect them to reduce it from
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treason to this conspiracy to overthrow
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the government plead guilty on it and of
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course part of that plea deal would be
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he’s got to tell everything he knows so
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I think that if this is true they have
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him it’s over you know and and of course
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long it’s been said that he’s lawyered
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up and prepared
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everybody in town apparently has
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lawyered up now so it’ll be seen now one
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additional thing to that before I go to
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the rest of the list is there are four
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other CIA personnel who are going to be
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indicted but don’t have names or lists
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of charges for that very interesting
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perspectives so there that if it’s true
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it would mean there’s a core of four
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senior people at the CIA that did all of
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this in conjunction with John Brennan
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who was director at the time very very
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very interesting than those people if
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that’s true it’s going to be an very
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interesting to see how that plays out in
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it but also one of the things that lends
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credibility to me is all those names are
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withheld that makes perfect sense to me
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so now going on to the lists Loretta
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Lynch indicted three counts of
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conspiracy to overthrow the government
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two counts obstruction of justice three
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counts of lying to Congress Sally Yates
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three counts of conspiracy to overthrow
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the government three counts of
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obstruction of justice James clapper
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three counts of conspiracy to overthrow
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the government two counts of lying to
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Congress James Comey three
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of conspiracy to overthrow the
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government six counts perjury four
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counts obstruction of justice four
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counts falsifying government documents
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Andrew McCabe maybe I should be
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mentioning well I think everyone knows
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these names so I don’t need to go
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through all of their former positions
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but certainly they’re easy to search
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their everyday names up there now but
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all these guys are DOJ FBI CIA personnel
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from the Obama days of Obama
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administration so Andrew McCabe three
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counts of conspiracy to overthrow the
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government two counts of perjury three
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counts of lying to Congress one count of
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falsifying documents Bruce or FBI guy
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three counts of conspiracy one count
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falsifying documents Baker going to be
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indicted but uncertain of what what
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charges
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Peter Peter struck three counts of
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conspiracy to overthrow the government
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four counts of perjury three counts of
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falsifying documents which by the way
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some of that’s probably being added to
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right now based on the Flynn case which
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is I think one of the reasons this is
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being delayed three counts of conspiracy
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to four page lisa page structs lover
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both at the FBI three counts of
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conspiracy to overthrow the government
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three counts of perjury one count
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obstruction of justice Rod Rosenstein of
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five various charges that are not listed
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Susan Rice illegal use of government
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systems that’s interesting charge it’s
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quite different than the rest three
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counts of perjury one count of
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obstruction so that’s the list in its
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entirety that I have a couple comments
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on all of this one as I said take this
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with a grain of salt because while it
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looks realistic to me and one of the
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reasons I’m able to talk about it is is
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is kind of the sourcing looks reasonable
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and the information looks reasonable so
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there’s a chance this is true but also
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another thing to take into account all
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of these charges could could change –
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this stuff evolves over time and some of
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these things could be the charges could
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be it’s a sliding scale of the way the
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government can charge you in criminal
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cases and so they can have stiffer
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charges like for example comparing tree
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– conspiracy to overthrow the government
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so that I’m assuming don’t know but I’m
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assuming the penalties and what would
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have to be proven and all of these are
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kind of a sliding scale of going up and
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down so this stuff could all be shifted
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around even if this is exactly true
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today it doesn’t mean it’s going to be
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true a month from now things can be
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added or taken off or negotiated through
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plea deals and those sorts of things and
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everybody here is gonna play out there
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they’re going to if this is true they’re
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not going to fight this in court now
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just take for example someone like the
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first one on the list which is Loretta
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Lynch and three counts of conspiracy to
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overthrow the government to counsel
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obstruction of justice three counts of
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lying in Congress you know three counts
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of conspiracy to overthrow the
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government that’s not that’s not a
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six-month term in jail so if she if she
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risks doing this you know that’s a lot
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of counts and if they can prove one or
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two or three you know if they can
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convict her on half of it that’s
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probably you virtually life in prison
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for somebody like that you know twenty
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or thirty years sentence and you know
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she might live long enough to get out of
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jail but you know her life will be
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destroyed and reputation and everything
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so they’re gonna try to plead this down
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to accept plead guilty on lesser charges
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which is SOP that’s how this stuff works
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and these sorts of negotiations go on
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absolutely every single day with
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prosecutors and criminals that are that
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are indicted so that’s basically the
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information that’s out there like I said
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it’s it tends to fit it’s interesting
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but unconfirmed take it with a grain of
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salt as I’ve said repeatedly don’t take
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it to the bank but you know alone gee
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wouldn’t this be a very interesting turn
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of events
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and certainly the circumstances indicate
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what we’ve seen so far and what I’ve
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long predicted is this fits what is the
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natural result out of it and I remind
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everybody of going back and looking at
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the original FISA requests and when I
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was able to read the the redacted
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version and this all fits because these
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are the types of crimes that it looks
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like everybody was was committing any
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idea when
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this these events were actually gonna
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take place like we we have what looks
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like a pretty good outline of what the
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list looks like when will the actual
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indictments take place no idea right you
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know it’s just so hard to say I again it
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just pure speculation I’m sure there are
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people who know but the part of the
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problem with this is is it keeps
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evolving and like I said I personally
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believe that many of the people on this
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this list this is this is out of the
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durham investigation for the FISA thing
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so we have now the Flynn case which it
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looks conceivable that there might be
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additional indictments that would come
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out of that now I don’t know if this
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process this judge on this case is doing
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would delay those indictments but I
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would guess just like I say from a
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layman’s perspective I would guess that
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that that judge stalling essentially on
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this for whatever reasons would delay
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these additional charges being brought
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to bear and they for example Peter
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Strock was very involved in the the
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general Flynn thing so if if it is what
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it appears to be that he was politically
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targeted to just you know and they were
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trying to destroy a political enemy
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that’s you know a lot of laws would have
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been broken in that and therefore they
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would want to add charges to what’s
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already on here for Peter stroke which
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is I said three counts of conspiracy to
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overthrow the government four counts of
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perjury three counts of falsifying
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documents just at a guess I would say
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that counts of falsifying documents
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would go way up and you know US Attorney
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General are and US Attorney Durham I
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guarantee you are very cautiously going
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through all this stuff reviewing
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everything it’s that just it takes time
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I mean you know wild guess on my part I
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would say probably not within 30 days
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hopefully within 60 but I would say the
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charges will be announced well before
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elections you know there’s famously the
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October Surprise timeframe so maybe
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October I don’t know I would hope before
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that but well
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you
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