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Barry web it is June the second and this
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is our weekly oddities and peculiarities
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of Islam that people really ought to
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know you know what what have you gotten
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what have you got for us tonight
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well the main topic tonight is the
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opening surah of the Quran that you
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serve will fat Thank You file gives a
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lot of controversy as to whether that is
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by benign or whether it is really
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antagonistic towards Jews and Christians
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now before I get into that I want to
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explain the difference between the
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quote/unquote revelations that Muhammad
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got in Mecca which formed the earliest
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part of the Quran and the quote-unquote
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revelations he got when he went up to
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Medina which are much more militant and
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approach jihad what not the sort the
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reason there is a different stairs
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because well for one thing when he was
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in Mecca he didn’t have any political or
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military power
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so jihad at that time was just jihad to
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the tongue jiya to the sand they call it
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and the early verses in the Quran with
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the so-called Mecca verses are very
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benign and orig like Christianity I mean
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Jesus Christ could be saying a lot of
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the things that that are in there except
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for a couple passages that reference sex
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slavery but there was under the anti Jew
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or anti-christmas
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and in fact those early verses of the
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Quran are very complimentary of the Jews
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and the Christians and this surah
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al-fatihah
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which is the first the opening chapter
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of the quran was supposedly revealed at
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that time now in 620 a day when Muhammad
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was still in Mecca is what the first
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wife Khadija who he had been very
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faithful to up
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at that point died and his uncle
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Paulette who had basically raised him
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also died and these two individual but
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she was a business woman that actually
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supported him right as a matter of fact
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when he became a page in the 590
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sometime he began working for her and as
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a current Caravan driver and a
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businessman and he traveled you know
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between a rate between Mecca and Syria
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and back and forth and all that and
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apparently did very well was sujith
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figures and all that stuff and she was
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like 15 years older than he was and she
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actually made the proposal by going to
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his uncle uncle pilot who was his
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guardian at the time and to make the
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ransoms for a marriage and to get a
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little more background suddenly
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understand the Prime Minister of France
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so much better go back to Muhammad’s
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birth his father died before he was born
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and so when he was born his mother was
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basically became a single mom and she
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apparently felt she couldn’t raise him
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you know in that situation she was in
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so she affirmed him out to a Bedouin
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family or he’d spent his first five
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years and then it was after that that
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his uncle Paul AB brought him back to
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Mecca and adopted him as you know as his
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adopted son went and then raised him
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with his family but people wonder okay
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why didn’t he ever after he came back
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you know why didn’t he ever get back you
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know with his mother or whatnot that
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never happened and a theory that some
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psychologists have is that he well he
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resented his mother and he also missed
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the mother image and so when this you
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know his employer his boss that was 15
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years older he was like 40 when he was
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25 you know made the deal for the
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marriage you know he was it was like his
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my
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figure like a French president macaron
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so anyway that was that situation and
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for whatever reason he seems to at least
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based on the Arabic sources that we have
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he was faithful to her up and tell her
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her death now so we have these two main
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figures in his life his wife Khadijah
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and his uncle Paul Ned but they both
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died and they were both very powerful
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figures in the core age tribe so by
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losing them both he also lost tribal
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protection so to speak and then he had
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this you know he already you were
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starting the strange monotheistic
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religion so you know the stories that we
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get from Muslims are that he was almost
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kicked out that they were being you know
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persecuted and whatnot anyway he moves
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up to Medina which was controlled by
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three Jewish tribes at the time that was
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called yeah three at the time right
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there was what was the answer yeah yeah
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it was Arabic pronunciation that in the
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Babylonian and Assyrian sources they
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call the death trip ooh but but Medina
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was the name of the place after Mohammed
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reconquered and got famous right yeah
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yeah was reason for that
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anyway we first got there and he brought
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hundred or two hundred people with him
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you know that were his followers sources
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are unclear as to how many but anyway
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they were get this accepted welcomed as
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refugees okay so at least they settle
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down and everything’s fine you know for
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a couple of years and then he uses
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divide-and-conquer to to get tail on
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these Jewish tribes first one and then
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he picks them out of the city and then
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he has a vision saying about this other
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pride that they’re going to drop a brick
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on his head or something it’s already
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goes after them and convinces the third
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tribe that is an argument with them it’s
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just you know this bending that banwen
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audre guys and so he won’t stay on them
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and he picks them of course takes all
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the belongings you know you know before
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and go and he’s down – one more one more
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tribe which he be seeds is them and they
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think this is the yeah bandwidth chorus
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huh
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they think that well feat surrender
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least we can escape with our lives like
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the other tribes did but not this time
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this time he marks them all down to the
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plaza of the town and hey yet his guys
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did a big trench and then they selected
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all of the males that were old enough to
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have grown pubic hair and marks them to
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the edge of the trench and beasts
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beheaded every single one of them in
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front of their wives mothers sisters
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daughters etc then the women who
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survived were course were taken slaves
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and so this is where the sanctification
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of beheading comes from and the
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sanctification of taking sex slaves
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comes from a permit so I bought the
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sanctification of genocide I imagine
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yeah yeah and in fact actually it’s a
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sacrament because again chapter 33 verse
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21 of the currents commands Muslims to
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imitate Muhammad that he’s the best
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example from all mankind you know you
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should all follow him and as long as
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you’re as prudence goes into even more
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detail so by doing what Muhammad did
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you’re performing a sacrament you’re
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getting pretty good you know more
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goodies in heaven Muhammad was was
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eventually poisoned by one of the wives
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he took from the banneker eyes aright
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that’s one of the theories yeah it’ll be
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great if they followed that example but
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anyway that’s the beginning of his
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dictatorial control over Medina and
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that’s what he changed any establishes
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on Islamic state in in Yathrib and he
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changed it to Medina because the word
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Medina originally an old Arabic and also
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in Hebrew meant state not City even so
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it was the state that he had
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for him that’s why it’s called Medina on
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nowadays mid the word Medina in Arabic
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means just acidity back then in Memphis
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states only way that’s beginning of a
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state the beginning of his dictatorial
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powers and you know power corrupts and
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absolute power corrupts absolutely and
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from that time on he seems to have gone
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psychotic and that’s when all of the you
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know the jihad propaganda and the rating
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of caravans the beheading of of enemies
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and and under you jus hate and Christian
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hey starts coming in then yeah so that’s
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the difference that’s why the Mecca
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verses are mild and benign and then
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there’s this big change when he goes to
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Medina they become more militant and
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antagonistic towards the Jews Christians
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and all that okay now let’s go back to
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the sort of fact afar it was supposedly
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revealed early in the Mecca period and
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if you read it just for the meaning of
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the words themselves
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it is very benign in fact it’s basically
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a paraphrasing of the Christian Lord’s
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Prayer which in turn is a paraphrasing
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of a prayer that that I preached to this
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Babylonian High Priest is made it out of
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goopy prayed to the moon God to have him
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protect her son and prevent him from
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trespassing and that kind of stuff all
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three of these prayers have a similar
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formula in that first of all you start
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with you know you dial up God you
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acknowledge his greatness and all this
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stuff and knowledge that he has dominion
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over kingship and the world and all this
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stuff and then you thank him for
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whatever favors he’s given you or might
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give you in the future and then you
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present your petition whether it’s
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guided my son from sin and from
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trespassing or guide us so we cross past
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not or like in Islam the saw repentant
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guide us on the straight path the path
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that you are very pleased with and that
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not the path of the people with your mad
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answer straight very simple brain benign
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so it’s basically like calling technical
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support right
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but apparently sometime after he had
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been in Medina I think towards the end
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of his life someone asked him well who
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are what is this 7th verse of the fatiha
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what does that refer to what who are
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these people that that Allah is angry at
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and who are these people that that went
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astray and then the answer man at that
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time was the Jews and the Christians and
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I think reflects the change in thinking
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that he had between when he first
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uttered that surah or gave it to his
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followers and towards the end of his
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life after he had become psychotic and a
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mango maniac and happy header and
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whatnot
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so I hope that that can explains things
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for people so here I think something
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that you know what its basics but I
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really think that for the newly red pill
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that call what I call red pill cadets I
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think that it’s important that people
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understand the concept of abrogation you
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know it’s actually written in the Quran
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itself if you read it the whole the
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little thing about abrogation so I mean
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you know maybe if you can explain why
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it’s out of order that it is out of
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order and the importance of the order
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based on abrogation okay first of all a
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lot of people when they if I picked up
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on Quran out of nowhere and start
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reading it they think that you know so
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to think that the invert the chapters
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that you see at the beginning of the
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Quran or the ones that were real
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revealed first the ones at the end were
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the ones that were revealed towards the
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end of his life and if that’s not true
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it’s all things all mixed up but in
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general so the it’s like it’s shortest
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to longest or longest to shortest or
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something yes yes with the exception of
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the sir they’re sort of fanciful which
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is only seven verses that’s but that’s
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kind of like say like a prayer and a son
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that the Muslims are supposed to say
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before they utter any other portion of
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the Quran so even if you’re reading the
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67th chapter you’re supposed to begin
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with a certain event you know kind of as
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a prayer to set the mood and then then
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you go on if you’re reading now longer
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ones at the beginning of the shorter
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ones at the end and in general it’s the
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longer ones towards the beginning that
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are the Medina verses that tend to be
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the more violent and more pro jihad the
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shorter verses towards the end
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tend to be that’s where most of the that
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you might Commerce’s are and they tend
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to be more raw benign now yes there are
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three verses in the Quran that basically
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say that all I have the ability isn’t in
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lucema throat all I has the ability to
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abrogate or negate any verse that he
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wants to and replace it with another one
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just like it or one that’s better so in
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other words whenever there is a
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contradiction between the early Mecca
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verses and the later Medina verses the
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later Medina verses are going to
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abrogate they are cancel out the earlier
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Mecca verses and so this is why all of
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these be jihad verses and the jew-hating
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verses abrogate all of the benign stuff
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that we see in the Mecca verses and yet
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this is pretty critical to get that it’s
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pretty critical to get that abrogation
0:14:58.770,0:15:03.840
thing so okay allow me to now and again
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I find myself in a position where I have
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to explain this to somebody so correct
0:15:07.080,0:15:12.680
me if I’ve got this wrong but this is
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how I usually put it to people that
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Mohammad made this stuff up as he went
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along in order to get people to fight to
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rob caravans and fight other nations and
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take over and robbed raped steal and
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kill for and die for and he would make
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this stuff up as circumstances required
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and people I think somebody one of his
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own people sort of
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saying wait last week you said this and
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now you’re saying that how does that
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work and he said give me a minute on
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that and then came back and said don’t
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you know that Allah reveals things to
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all as you need to know like in other
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words this is a need-to-know basis and
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you will be in revealed it will be
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revealed to you what you need to know
0:15:56.920,0:16:01.050
when you need to know it and anything
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that said on a certain subject will
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abrogate or negate us anything iswhat
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that was revealed earlier on the same
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subject so don’t you know Alice knows
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what’s good for everybody
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again like calling technical sports you
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got to start out with dial it up with a
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with some praise and then and an end
0:16:19.810,0:16:26.410
with something nice middle so is that
0:16:25.120,0:16:29.230
about right or what do I have wrong
0:16:26.410,0:16:32.770
there yeah um well actually good a lot
0:16:29.230,0:16:35.950
of the con particularly the benign you
0:16:32.770,0:16:38.680
know Mecca verses were actually taken
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out of right out of different forms of
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Christianity and or Judaism but like you
0:16:43.870,0:16:50.470
say then when he found need for more
0:16:48.700,0:16:53.500
militant verses then he would have these
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visions that would support you get these
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revelations that would support the new
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circumstance and and they saw the
0:16:58.750,0:17:03.610
abrogation verses come in handy now you
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also brought up a very good point I want
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to drill in a little bit more modern
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Imams when they ask each other or are
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asked by you know their true believers
0:17:13.560,0:17:19.060
you know why do we have this abrogation
0:17:15.970,0:17:23.079
why if if you know all these benign
0:17:19.060,0:17:26.170
verses earlier verses were abrogated why
0:17:23.079,0:17:29.830
are they still in the Quran and the
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answer is there well as two answers is
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first I had Allah revealed the entire
0:17:33.520,0:17:39.160
Quran to Muhammad all at once being the
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nice guy he was he would have rejected
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it and the same logic holds true today
0:17:41.800,0:17:47.200
that when they’re trying to recruit or
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convert
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someone into Islam they can’t give them
0:17:49.840,0:17:54.940
the whole thing so they pick out on some
0:17:52.600,0:17:57.039
of these all these benign verses see
0:17:54.940,0:17:59.499
this is what the Quran says I see it’s
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just like Christianity my favorite one
0:17:59.499,0:18:03.850
my favorite deception like that is where
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they say and it’s the one I used to hear
0:18:03.850,0:18:06.999
the most commonly but today I don’t
0:18:05.590,0:18:07.359
think they pull that one as much as they
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used to
0:18:07.359,0:18:12.909
it’s where they say if you if you if you
0:18:10.840,0:18:14.950
if you kill a person it’s like you’ve
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killed all of humanity and if you save a
0:18:14.950,0:18:18.700
person is where you saved all of
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humanity but they don’t read the verse
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immediately before and after that where
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it says it was revealed to the Jews that
0:18:23.619,0:18:28.929
ask you yes meaning that if that if that
0:18:27.009,0:18:30.460
you save a Muslim it’s like they saved
0:18:28.929,0:18:32.440
all humanity but if they kill a Muslim
0:18:30.460,0:18:35.259
it’s like they’ve killed all mankind and
0:18:32.440,0:18:37.570
then it follows by saying that any any
0:18:35.259,0:18:39.909
Jew who does these things should be I
0:18:37.570,0:18:42.909
don’t know have their arms and legs cut
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from opposite sides and crucified and
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that burned on the surface of a hot
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knife or something so yeah it’s it’s one
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of the tricks they do is they get that
0:18:50.440,0:18:56.799
little bit which they stole from the
0:18:52.570,0:18:59.350
Jerusalem Talmud way the Colts that
0:18:56.799,0:19:03.309
worked throughout history is that you’ve
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got these different levels and when you
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bring someone in you just give them a
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little bit of the knowledge of the cult
0:19:06.549,0:19:10.029
and then after they jump through certain
0:19:08.350,0:19:11.739
hoops you get a little more knowledge
0:19:10.029,0:19:13.359
they jump through more hoops and to keep
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on going until they get to the highest
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level
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so Islam works the same way you real
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people in with these real benign verses
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and then once they’ve made this
0:19:20.859,0:19:25.509
commitment to Islam and to Allah and
0:19:23.649,0:19:27.789
they believe that they’ve really come to
0:19:25.509,0:19:30.580
believe that Muhammad was you know God’s
0:19:27.789,0:19:31.809
prophet and you start giving them a
0:19:30.580,0:19:34.389
little bit more with you know more
0:19:31.809,0:19:37.059
militant verses and keep reeling them in
0:19:34.389,0:19:39.639
and then when you really have them
0:19:37.059,0:19:42.489
hooked you can start giving them some of
0:19:39.639,0:19:44.470
the hadith sin and the dis llama
0:19:42.489,0:19:47.649
jurisprudence books what really gets
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heavy so it’s kind of like a bait and
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switch
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operation and that’s the kindest thing
0:19:51.609,0:19:54.639
about Islam
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thank you very much Barry Webb for
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taking your time out again on a Sunday
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night and
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we’ll see you on Tuesday for the next
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news for the new news Tuesday
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