Mixing Espionage & Politics is Dangerous

What’s Up Canada hosts Brad Johnson, CIA, Chief of Station (ret)

The intelligence agencies in the U.S. crowded out objective espionage, replacing it with subjective political agendas. Our national security and that of our allies are now vulnerable. How did this happen and what has it yielded?

Brad Johnson, CIA Chief of Station (Ret.), is President of Americans for Intelligence Reform and brings his 25 years of experience as a CIA Operative to news both global and domestic. He brings you his unique perspective from deep, international experience. Now retired, he formed Americans for Intelligence Reform to fight exactly the corruption and politics destroying our intelligence capabilities and threatening our national security.

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hey you what’s up canada
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and beyond good morning to you all out
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there
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and welcome to an unusual morning
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broadcast but
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it’s one of those things where we will
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take every opportunity we can
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to get the most valuable information we
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can to you
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and today we’ve got a very special guest
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somebody that’s been here before
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and i really appreciate uh the the
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expertise that he brings to the table
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welcome everybody
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to uh brad johnson from the uh americans
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for intelligence reform out of the usa
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welcome back brad i thank you so much
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wayne good morning canada it’s great to
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be with you again and uh
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there’s there’s so much going on i don’t
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know if we’ll have enough time to hit on
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half of the stuff
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well you know i i think so too and it’s
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it’s going to be a kind of a bit
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of all over the place there’s no way
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that you can carry on
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a conversation at this point in time in
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one singular direction
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uh so i i think where i kind of want to
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start this off today
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is is with biden and
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i think in my opinion that mr biden in a
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couple of days is going to prove to the
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world
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exactly why mr trump was probably the
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best president in american history
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what do you think about that yeah i
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would say it’s true i mean i
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i don’t see how any sort of factual
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criteria could be used and not have
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trump
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excuse me come out certainly if not the
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best president we’ve ever had
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excuse me certainly one of the say top
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three
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he’s just an extraordinarily good
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president now he seems to have had a
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you know or seems to have a personality
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that rubs people
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wrong he’s the you know guy from
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jersey and queens and that sort of stuff
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and i guess some of those attitudes rub
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other people’s wrong certainly the the
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self-proclaimed intelligentsia of the
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left here in the united states hates him
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i would say they’re
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pseudo-intellectual uh rather than the
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intelligentsia
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me but uh you know it’s it’s you have to
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set that aside i mean
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there’s the old thing about judging a
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book by its cover i think we all agree
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there’s there’s problems with judging a
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book by its cover i mean
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sometimes you can sometimes you can’t
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and that has to be taken into account so
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if you’re judging president trump on
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just his appearance i mean his hair is
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you know different and you know they
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they talk about he’s got the orange skin
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i guess he does
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tan service stuff i don’t know don’t
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care it doesn’t matter to me what i care
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about is what kind of job the man did
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and he did a great job by you know just
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like i said any any measure that you
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want to use he was a great president
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and it’s um most unfortunate kind of
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what’s happened i’ll
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i’ll say something you and i were kind
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of chatting about before is like where
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do you go
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to really get actual opinion you know
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honest opinion
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on this stuff and i i just my
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background i mean not that people really
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care about this that much but
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for americans for intelligence reform uh
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you know we do have some backers and get
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some
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financial support which i very much
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appreciate from people
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but i don’t take a penny of it i’m i’m
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completely unpaid i do this as a
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volunteer
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which like i say as a non-profit here in
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the washington dc area
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uh to have the president of the
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organization
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basically be an unpaid volunteer i do
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what i do
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because it’s the right thing to do i’m
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trying to actually help and support and
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and support the patriots of the united
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states and
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and the rest of the world for that
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matter and you know i’m doing what i’m
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doing
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and it cost me money and time and effort
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and you know what you know i gain a lot
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of
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negatives from from the other side and
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that sort of thing but it’s got to be
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done by somebody
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i i don’t know of any other organization
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any other
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non-profit organization anywhere
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where that’s the situation in every
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single one of those cases the
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whoever it is that heads that
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organization up is the guy that gets
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paid the most
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i’m the guy that gets paid the least and
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because i’m at zero
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it cost me money i pay for a lot of this
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stuff the equipment i’m using to do this
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is all stuff i’ve paid out of my pocket
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and no one else out there that does
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these non-profits that’s that’s
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supposedly standing for some sort of
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issue or other does that they all
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are out looking for donors and money
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because what they want is to pay
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themselves so what they’re doing is
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taking care of themselves
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first and that therein lies the problem
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with washington dc
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and the capitals of of pretty much any
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country the people that come here
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are personally deeply ambitious and
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that’s what we see and and uh this
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something that’s talked about by quite a
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few people right now
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is uh the vice president the former vice
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president united states
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pence and uh pence had a situation where
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they they had
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a meeting and sat down and looked at the
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various options and they agreed
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to use one of those that would
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essentially invalidate the results of
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some of those states because
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they did not follow the laws and it
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wasn’t because oh
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we suspect this or that they changed the
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rules
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not going through the legislature of
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those states in order to make it
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favorable to the democrats so they could
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manipulate the numbers
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now uh pence had agreed to do that
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that would force those states to be
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looked at and see what that
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what a something that’s black and white
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illegal behavior by those states on how
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votes were
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uh allowed to be made and counted and
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all that
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uh he agreed to to to check all of that
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and force those things to be brought out
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into the light and examine
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and invalidate it if if if those uh
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couldn’t be proven to have followed the
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law if they didn’t follow law
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why should those why should it be
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counted because they were clearly
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cheating you know one of those
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things that’s that’s fairly black and
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white he agreed to do all of that in
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advance
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said it was great and then at the last
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second when it came to stand up time to
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stand up and be counted
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he buckled he came in uh
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and what happened was he he wants to be
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president like a lot of people do
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in 2024 and he thought that if he
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supports trump
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uh and do what what is right that he
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would be so unpopular that he’d have no
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chance of becoming president 2024
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and so what he did is that’s where he
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gave this speech where i cannot in good
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conscience do this i
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i don’t believe i have the
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constitutional authority to do this and
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blah blah
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blah blah all of which is untrue i mean
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patently
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false he lied when he said that those
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authorities were
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clearly his and laid out saying yes
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these are the authorities of the vice
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president in this situation
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so uh it clearly was one of those things
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where self-interest and ambition
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drove the boat for him and that’s why he
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did what he did and you’ve seen the
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measure of other people
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and i want to point out for particular
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disdain uh newt gingrich who newt
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gingrich has done a lot of wonderful
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things in the past
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and somebody for whom i’ve had respect
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in the past but
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you see him for what he is in this
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situation he came out and said
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that vice former vice president pence
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uh was a profiling courage for standing
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up under all this
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pressure to move forward and you know he
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courageously stood up for the
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constitution united states and did
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what’s right i mean
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it was just complete nonsense i mean all
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of it was lies
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all of those smoke and mirrors and these
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guys are doing
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strictly because they’re that old
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guard blue blood you know kind of rhino
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republicans
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they’re not real patriot conservatives
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uh
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and and they’re making money out of all
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this stuff so it’s these
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it’s the old boys network circling the
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wagons protecting one of their own
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that’s all it is and that’s that’s again
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one of the things i’ve i’ve
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traditionally said and
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said in many interviews that uh and and
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being overseas for the cia one of the
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things we would see is congressional
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delegation so i would see these guys all
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the time
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so i see how they behave overseas when
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they think nobody’s watching
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and you know being cia we know guys like
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that come into the country who know what
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they’re doing
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and 90 of the democrats are just they’re
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scumbags
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there’s a very small percentage 10
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percent that are they’re good decent
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people trying to do a good job
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the republicans i’ve always said
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traditionally were about
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but now i’ve i’ve had to re redo that
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score
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and now it’s it’s it’s about 70 30 about
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70 percent of republicans are scumbags
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and only about 30 percent
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are good guys trying to do a good job
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and the vast majority of those are
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located within the freedom caucus
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that’s that small pool of people that
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are generally speaking really good guys
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so
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you know 90 of democrats 70 of
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republicans you know
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80 of everybody in congress is a scumbag
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only 20
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of them just as a whole are decent
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people and and so that’s what you get
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that’s why we’re getting what we’re
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getting now where
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you know i anyone who’s paying attention
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or looks at the facts and looks at the
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numbers how they were run
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of the election here the general
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election for president
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you know and that the the lines going up
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and all of a sudden there’s this huge
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vertical jump of tens of thousands of
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votes in these
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swing states for biden and stuff you
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can’t no election has ever had that
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result
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ever anywhere and that that that’s a
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that’s a true result
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so you can’t look at that and go oh yeah
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that just happened to work out that way
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suddenly we found you know 50 000 votes
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for joe biden and
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that’s just how that turned out gosh you
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know no
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nobody who’s rational can believe that
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and worldwide and of course my
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for what i do and stuff i get a lot of
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i’m i’m
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30 to 50 of my viewers generally
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speaking
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are outside the united states certainly
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including canada
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and europe and all over the world and
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something like
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80 states kind of follow my website on a
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routine
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countries rather follow my uh my website
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on a regular basis so i get a lot of
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feedback from overseas and of course
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spent most of my adult life overseas so
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i have friends and contacts and things
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and
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nobody nobody has any confusion as to
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what happened here in the united states
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because
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over there you’ve seen socialist
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takeovers so these people have lived
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through all this stuff so they know what
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it looks like
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so for example in eastern europe i have
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not had one person
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not one person from eastern europe come
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out and say
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gee i think those elections were honest
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not
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everybody looks at and goes wow we
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didn’t know this could happen in the
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united states of america which i kind of
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threw my head into that ring too i
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i just didn’t realize how far gone it
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was i mean a lot of these problems that
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have made this possible are things
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i talk about and have talked about for
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years and certainly
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the politization and weaponization of
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the intelligence community most
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particularly
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the cia and fbi and doj all
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those are so clear now it just i didn’t
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realize the depth and anyone that i i
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hear people on the news on mainstream
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media
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uh come out and say oh you know these
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are just these are professionals trying
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to do a job
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well when you get down the ranks yes
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there are professionals i i pick on the
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fbi a lot because they’re public and
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they’re easier to do
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to sort of pick on but uh you know it’s
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it’s worse at the cia
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and other places i’m not suggesting it’s
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just the fbi but
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you know if you get out to the fbi
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office in
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you know seattle or you know colorado or
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you know montana or something like that
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most those guys are probably just guys
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trying to do a job
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and you know they’re trying to do it to
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the best of their ability and that’s
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where you find the
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you know the the rank and file good guys
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are out there
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and that that is the same in pretty much
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all these federal agencies but as you go
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up and get into leadership
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uh especially at senior leadership there
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are no good guys
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there are no professionals trying to do
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their job that doesn’t exist
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those guys are all chased out early on
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they’re not allowed to get into that
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pipeline of promotion
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systems to where they end up at the top
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they’re all squeezed out long before
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that
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and it’s based on their politics so all
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of those guys
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all of them are very partisan and
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i like to use the term activists they
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are activists and
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and what’s famous now is the activist
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judges uh well what is an activist judge
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i mean everybody needs to understand
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this this definition an activist judge
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is a judge in a court of law
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that does not care primarily about the
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constitution
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and does not care primarily about the
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laws of the united states of america
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neither written law nor case law what
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they care about
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is their personal political perspective
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and they use their position on the bench
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to push their personal political
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perspective
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above and over the constitution and the
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laws
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that is what activism is and that is
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pervasive you have
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activist intelligence officers you have
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activist law enforcement officers you
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have
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activist judges you have activist
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prosecutors
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uh doj and across the nation that you
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have all this
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activist cadre of people who
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everyone needs to understand they do not
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put the constitution of the laws
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first they put their personal political
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perspective
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first which that is precisely wrong i
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mean that’s exactly the wrong thing for
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them to be doing and we’ve even seen
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that seen that now reach into the
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u.s supreme court of the united states
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of america and that’s
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that just that’s why president trump
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uh he didn’t lose the election
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but that’s why he was not inaugurated
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and
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go ahead please oh uh yeah you’re
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hitting on a lot of points here so i
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when i just kind of want to back up here
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a little bit for the people
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that are uh first-time viewers and
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seeing
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seeing you here uh you’re saying some
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pretty hard stuff about what has
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happened here and some of the people
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that are are you know at the top
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levels of their fields in democracy and
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courts
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and i want the people to understand that
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you have the credentials
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to to say these things you have a long
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illustrious honorable career within the
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cia which is not
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the cia of 2020. i want people to
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understand that
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because at this point in time i can’t
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think of
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any institution anywhere in north
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america that has not had its
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trust trust absolutely demolished over
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the last
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six to ten months so this is important
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that i want people to understand that
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although
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you have this long career in in the cia
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what you do now is actually holding them
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to account with your americans for
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intelligence reform
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so tell people what your mission is with
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that and
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and what puts you in this position to
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have the
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to be able to say these things yeah i
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i i retired from after 25 years at cia i
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was in the operations
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cadre which is the the overseas people
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the operations cadre were the people
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that did
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that did traditionally the espionage and
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covert action and all of those things
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overseas which of my time
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nearly 20 years of that 25 was overseas
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so
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that was who i was and what i did so uh
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the
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what i saw happening and this was prior
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to the last presidential election is
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where i kind of got started in this and
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it was not
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really my my desire or interest this you
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know doing this was
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never any kind of goal for me and just
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sort of uh
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well i put this way you know there was
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the opm the office of personnel
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management hack
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and what the office of personal
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management is the
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hr office for the u.s government so
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everybody’s personnel records
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are there that whole thing got hacked it
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got hacked by china
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china by the way not russia russia
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russia like the democrats like to say
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the big hacks
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that we know who did it have all turned
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out to be china and yet
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everything’s blamed on russia which okay
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anyway
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china hacked and and in those my
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information got leaked and was used and
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then i
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was targeted here in the united states
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as an offshoot of these chinese efforts
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and you know getting death threats and
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calls and all sorts of stuff so it’s
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sort of one of those things like
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okay well if that’s if that’s the game
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in town then fine you know if i’m if
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i’ve not retired and left the fight then
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i’m in the fight
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so how do we fight back efficiently when
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i started out in the agency and this is
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you know going back a ways now but
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when i started in the agency uh we were
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still
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good i mean really good we have uh this
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long pipeline of people that you know
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that that had experience and it was
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built on
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the uh oss experience of world war
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ii office of uh strategic services
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and uh the cia was formed out of
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oss and went on and and took all those
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lessons from oss and built upon them and
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got better and better and better so
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when i would join the agency you know
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we at the cia could go toe-to-toe
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with the rest of the world combined no
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problem
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i mean we could go toe-to-toe with with
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everybody in the world and i’m not
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saying that we had the backing of all
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our allies and we needed that to do this
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stuff we did not
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it made us much stronger than the rest
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of the world because we did have
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a lot of allies certainly including
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canada but others as well
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but but we were going toe-to-toe to the
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rest of the world without them
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now that’s long long long long
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gone and even with our allies now we’re
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really not prepared anymore to
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to stand up to the rest of the world in
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the intelligence stage and and if you
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will the
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the pointy end of the spear what’s out
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as far as it can go
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for national security of the united
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states or the national security of
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canada or
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european union or whatever that furthest
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away thing that you really have to watch
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and is
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and serves its purposes so well is
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intelligence
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and that is is that tripwire out there
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that lets you know where you bring need
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to bring your resources to bear
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for your own national security and so
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i’ve watched
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in my career and since then which i’ve
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stayed involved in doing training and a
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lot of other things
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since retirement what i’ve i’ve seen is
18:32
i’ve watched all that just deteriorate
18:34
until it’s basically
18:35
flushed down the toilet i mean gone
18:38
under
18:38
uh john brennan who was the cia director
18:43
uh for the obama uh years
18:46
john brennan was uh he he did this thing
18:49
he called an upgrade
18:51
and uh in that upgrade uh basically what
18:54
he did
18:55
he he did do some improvements in the
18:57
sort of technical fields of collection
18:59
and things like that
19:01
and so there was some improvement
19:02
organizationally there
19:04
but he also was covering what i think
19:07
was his real purpose
19:08
and he disbanded the operational cadre
19:10
so it doesn’t exist
19:12
and so now you’ve got the system of sort
19:14
of everybody does everything anyone can
19:15
apply for any job
19:17
and sort of one size fits all and okay
19:20
just go take this two week course then
19:21
go do that
19:22
well i you know it’s it’s
19:26
so far beyond stupid it’s highly
19:29
counterproductive
19:31
and the operations cadre that’s not a
19:34
simple line of work to be in
19:36
it takes development of skills and years
19:38
of practice and all of these things to
19:40
really get to the point where you know
19:41
what you’re doing
19:42
i i hearken back to uh general
19:45
uh schwarzkopf from the first iraq war
19:48
and he made a comment about
19:49
they were able to perform so well uh and
19:52
and they were just the greatest
19:53
you know the us military army was the
19:56
the best army in the world
19:57
and a lot of that he based on his combat
20:00
kernels
20:01
and he said it takes 20 years to build
20:05
one of those guys
20:06
because he has to go through all this
20:08
pipeline of training
20:09
and have these mentors out here who’ve
20:11
done all that because they had
20:13
their previous careers and they pass on
20:15
those lessons learned yeah and so that
20:17
takes 20 years to build that combat
20:18
colonel
20:19
it’s the exact same thing at the cia it
20:21
takes 20 years to build that guy that
20:23
can go out there and be a chief of
20:25
station
20:25
and knows what to do and what not to do
20:27
and can successfully run
20:29
these operations covert action and
20:31
espionage it takes that long
20:33
to build those guys to do it if you do
20:36
not have the pipeline
20:37
you are not building those guys and that
20:39
pipeline was wiped out and destroyed
20:41
by none other than the illustrious john
20:43
brennan and former president obama
20:45
and so that pipeline is now gone so
20:47
we’ve seen this deterioration
20:49
i i would it’s beyond deterioration
20:51
we’ve seen a meltdown brennan even said
20:53
that at that point
20:55
we no longer do espionage it was a
20:57
famous npr
20:59
interview where they where he was
21:00
claiming that we just don’t do espionage
21:02
anymore
21:03
was widely criticized for that utterly
21:06
ridiculous and stupid comment i mean
21:08
just
21:09
the man is a very stupid man and
21:12
uh and by the way you say i’m being
21:14
harsh to these people
21:15
by my standard i’m being really polite
21:17
here i haven’t used any bad words so
21:20
i’m going out of my way to be nice about
21:21
all this stuff i mean to say he’s a
21:23
stupid man i think is
21:24
is relatively kind later off here i’ll
21:27
tell you what i really think
21:28
and unfortunately a byproduct of the
21:31
time that we’re in here right now
21:32
because
21:32
almost anything is a means for
21:34
cancellation
21:36
uh you know in the media space or the
21:39
digital space
21:40
uh and i think this has really played a
21:42
large part in
21:44
where we’re at here now including things
21:46
like that
21:47
uh technology has advanced so rapidly
21:50
that traditional means of intelligence
21:53
gathering
21:54
uh and training and and all of those
21:56
things
21:57
are are almost impossible to achieve now
22:01
because of the dependency on technology
22:03
and technology
22:04
is itself is changing so fast that if
22:07
you’re not in
22:08
you’re learning about it every single
22:09
day if you take two weeks off of
22:11
learning
22:12
about the technology you don’t know
22:13
enough to do your job when you get back
22:15
so this has got to make it almost
22:17
impossible for
22:18
for the the people that are boots on the
22:20
ground doing stuff when
22:22
their tools are you know their tools and
22:24
method information
22:26
is outdated before they even get it it’s
22:28
got to be an
22:29
almost impossible act to juggle
22:33
well uh certainly the the increase in
22:35
technology
22:37
and the what’s available out there uh
22:40
has complicated it
22:44
and it’s it’s made it uh more difficult
22:47
but
22:48
uh i i will say they’re they’re one of
22:50
this this often gets debated about
22:52
technology replacing espionage and
22:54
things like that
22:55
it just can never be and espionage is a
23:00
core skill set that
23:03
you have to pay the price to maintain
23:05
and if you let that go away you will pay
23:07
the price
23:08
in national security terms at some point
23:10
and i would argue we’re paying that now
23:12
because a lot of these things with
23:13
terrorism and so on
23:15
just escape us i mean we’re not very
23:16
effective against them anymore
23:18
and i i you you know it’s those are
23:21
intangibles that are hard to prove that
23:23
there are linear
23:24
that takes you from a to b to c but it
23:27
it’s it’s pretty inescapable i mean the
23:29
evidence is mounting and mounting and
23:30
mounting and
23:31
a lot of problems that we have now we
23:33
didn’t have then yes it’s a changing
23:34
landscape but there’s reasons
23:36
why espionage i mean this is this is
23:38
these are the types of examples that are
23:40
often kicked around but
23:42
uh if you move if country a
23:45
moves 500 tanks to the border with
23:48
country b and you through technology
23:51
you’re able to confirm all that
23:52
what does that mean is that a training
23:54
exercise
23:56
are they going over tomorrow at dawn and
23:57
going to attack
23:59
which is it technology isn’t going to
24:01
tell you that
24:02
it it’s very it would be very unusual
24:04
very serendipitous
24:06
for you to be able to determine that
24:07
based only on technology
24:09
if you have somebody in that enemy you
24:11
know in that camp
24:13
that’s the aid to camp to the general
24:14
who’s in charge of that
24:16
who’s got those 500 tanks under his
24:18
command
24:19
and that guy tells you this is a
24:22
training operation
24:23
or we’re going over tomorrow with don
24:25
that’s how you know
24:26
and it i know that’s a very simple
24:29
example but that’s the truth of it
24:31
also espionage drives the boat for a lot
24:34
of other things
24:35
through technology you can look and dig
24:37
down and find a lot of stuff
24:38
but where do you know how do you know
24:40
where to look at the context
24:42
this technology can’t carry the context
24:45
it can’t explain
24:46
human will it can’t explain mindset
24:49
all of these these things and you don’t
24:52
have to be in the espionage field to see
24:53
that you see that in just a text
24:56
conversation between people where they
24:57
get angry at each other because
24:59
they can’t read facial language they
25:01
can’t the context is missing out of the
25:03
text
25:04
uh this is why with the direction that
25:08
we’re heading with this dependence and
25:09
all of this i i believe that myself
25:11
personally is extremely flawed and
25:12
dangerous because there is
25:14
so much information is missing people
25:16
are not able to make
25:17
accurate decisions because they don’t
25:19
have the intelligence
25:21
the data to actually make informed
25:24
decisions
25:26
and humans are humans i mean we do
25:27
things for human motives and
25:29
sometimes they’re group balls sometimes
25:30
they’re not i mean you know i
25:32
i you know you can’t even it’s you know
25:35
we always joke and it’s like follow the
25:36
money and
25:37
it’s it’s almost always power and money
25:40
sometimes it’s sex
25:41
but usually it’s power money sometimes
25:43
it’s sex and sometimes it’s something
25:44
completely different like
25:46
you know that guy’s uh wife insulted
25:49
your wife
25:50
25 years ago and you haven’t gotten over
25:52
it so by god we’re going to war and i’m
25:53
teaching them a lesson
25:54
you know those those things happen i
25:56
mean those things really happen out
25:58
there
25:58
if you go back through history like
26:00
deeply personal motives
26:02
have have taken in that just are
26:03
irrational but
26:05
that’s the human condition where we have
26:07
emotions built into us
26:09
we get emotional reactions like you say
26:11
people can get pissed off over
26:13
incomplete information being transmitted
26:15
through text messages which don’t show
26:17
up you know voice intonation and
26:20
facial expressions and all of those
26:22
things that are so
26:24
important to the full communications
26:26
that we have when people
26:27
can actually talk so yeah it’s any rate
26:29
it’s one of those things where having
26:31
that
26:31
capability destroyed is really one of
26:34
the fundamental fundamental reasons i
26:36
want to take
26:37
the politicization out of the
26:38
intelligence community
26:40
you have the intelligence community do
26:42
its freaking job
26:44
and that is to go find out what’s going
26:46
on in the rest of the world
26:47
report it back to the policy makers let
26:49
them worry about it
26:50
you know it’s it’s fire and forget go
26:52
find out x
26:53
give it to the policy makers and then go
26:55
start looking for why
26:57
and that’s it that is their job the
27:00
the analysts need to be uh sacrosanct
27:03
they need to be
27:04
separate they need to have their own
27:06
thing they should not be influenced and
27:08
have
27:08
anything whatsoever to do with
27:09
operations because
27:11
you become wed to it it’s that human
27:13
emotion
27:14
thing if if you are talking to a source
27:18
that tells you
27:19
x as an analyst you are naturally
27:23
out of the human condition going to give
27:25
more credence to that person because
27:27
it’s your case that should never happen
27:30
with
27:31
analytic the analysts anymore never
27:33
should happen
27:34
they should be completely separate from
27:35
that they should get all sources
27:37
everything that can be given to them
27:39
operations needs to go get it feed it to
27:41
them
27:42
let them do their job with it and send
27:43
it on that way it’s completely
27:45
unemotional it’s just
27:47
it’s pure intellect looking at the data
27:49
that’s available the best they can get
27:52
producing the best non-political product
27:55
they can get
27:56
and giving it to the politicians now
27:58
politicians in the old days
28:00
before november we could have voted them
28:02
out and
28:03
that was how we expressed our
28:04
displeasure with their job if they make
28:06
stupid decisions
28:08
like now president biden always did you
28:11
know if you go back and look at the
28:12
history of his decisions and
28:13
what he wanted to do and how he you know
28:15
how he suggested we do things
28:17
i mean i i’m not sure if he was ever
28:19
right on anything
28:20
i mean he was wrong on everything
28:22
another one of the few people i would
28:24
look at and i
28:25
hopefully this won’t get us in too much
28:26
trouble one of the few men i would look
28:28
at and say well he’s
28:29
he’s dumber than uh than john brennan so
28:32
i i you know it’s it’s it’s it’s a new
28:35
world in that sense with these elections
28:37
the way they’ve gone and so on and this
28:39
is gonna
28:40
have to play forward but i’m i i
28:42
certainly worry
28:43
very much about what this means for the
28:45
future and again
28:47
one kind of final point on that human
28:49
nature aspect of it is
28:51
uh if it’s true that all of those
28:54
numbers were manipulated and
28:56
in essence the democrats cheated on the
28:58
election and stole it from trump which
29:00
i believe to be true but it just just
29:03
assume for a moment that is true
29:06
they’ve had that taste of power and they
29:08
know that that using this system
29:10
they’re going to be able to control
29:11
elections from here on out
29:14
human beings it’s not in their nature to
29:17
cast that power aside
29:19
they’re going to double down on that and
29:21
so it’s going to get worse and worse
29:23
it’ll be a bigger and bigger problem and
29:25
go lower and lower down within the ranks
29:27
of
29:28
of elections to where it’s local
29:30
elections and things like that too
29:32
because
29:32
it you know the old saying absolute
29:36
power corrupts absolutely
29:37
is true and that is a very
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29:41
you know huge power that is is in the
29:44
hands of some people
29:46
and they’re never going to give it up
29:47
they will never give it up
29:49
and so uh power mongers and dictators
29:52
they they never willingly step away or
29:54
walk away or give up or surrender they
29:56
need to be removed this has been
29:58
proven throughout history time and time
30:01
and time again
30:02
and what you know to refer back to one
30:04
of the other
30:05
statements you made earlier about the
30:07
activist judges
30:09
and now i think we’ve gotten to the
30:11
point here where
30:12
everything is politicized medicine
30:15
health uh
30:15
healthcare policing politics voting
30:18
systems
30:19
every single thing that is out there has
30:22
had the checks and balances removed from
30:24
it because
30:25
everybody is an activist everybody is
30:27
virtue signaling
30:28
to gain more of that money and power and
30:31
influence and recognition
30:33
and it’s gotten to the point where
30:36
now with it with the the lack of in
30:39
intelligence data and then
30:41
and the gathering of information
30:43
similarly you know
30:44
just like with talking about the cia
30:46
this has reached i think the level of
30:48
the
30:48
john q public where now there is
30:51
seemingly almost almost nowhere
30:55
to go to get factual accurate
30:57
information
30:58
all of the pillars of knowledge and
31:00
information that we based our decisions
31:02
on for generations
31:04
have been politicized to the point of
31:07
being nonsensical
31:08
and absolutely had their trust shattered
31:11
it doesn’t matter whether
31:13
it’s any form of mainstream media news
31:15
or
31:16
or politicians there is seems to be
31:20
almost no source of information so this
31:23
is where
31:23
people like myself have tried to step up
31:27
to find and dig through more and more
31:30
and more to do the work that they’re not
31:31
doing we’re willing to do the work to
31:33
get to the information
31:34
so that people can find you know some
31:38
truth and make an
31:39
accurate decision for their lives so we
31:42
come to you
31:43
to folks like you that you know are
31:47
in in the same mindset and an
31:49
understanding
31:50
and it’s still incredibly difficult
31:53
because now how do we
31:54
used to be where we’d be able to find
31:56
something to verify
31:58
you know through going and looking you
32:00
would go and look through three or four
32:02
or five different sources to
32:03
before you you know said that this was
32:06
it
32:06
was fact and it’s almost impossible now
32:10
to to now we can talk to folks like
32:12
yourself or or rich or a few others
32:15
but they are such a few margin marginal
32:17
people that
32:18
it’s almost impossible to find something
32:21
that we can
32:22
effectively say this is true
32:25
and even if you do find
32:29
the the corroboration you know to make
32:31
it
32:33
to to prove your your point the power of
32:37
the
32:38
uh fake news i guess for the politicize
32:41
the activist
32:42
news we’ll look we’ll call them that
32:44
activist the media party
32:47
um makes it makes it
32:50
impossible to to uh disperse the
32:53
information
32:54
um and so we’re left searching
32:58
through context through er all of this
33:00
information
33:01
to try and find something more out of it
33:03
and and on that note i’m going to
33:05
switch gears here a little bit back to
33:08
the inauguration
33:09
now i’ve watched several inaugurations
33:13
and this one here really
33:17
surprised me with some of the things
33:18
that i saw i saw
33:20
military troops turning their back on
33:23
the cavalcade
33:24
i saw no 21 gun salute for biden
33:28
trump still gets 21 gun salute these are
33:31
some of the things that are context that
33:33
are missing mainstream media
33:36
won’t address but you
33:39
i’m sure we’ll have some insight on is
33:42
is this significant
33:43
these are the things that we have to
33:45
look to for information to find meaning
33:47
and bearing and direction anymore
33:50
absolutely absolutely it has meaning and
33:52
and uh you know troops
33:56
the u.s military has got the i the
33:58
concepts of patriot
33:59
patriotism is part of being in the
34:01
military those things go hand in hand
34:03
and it’s uh it’s like i said i mean
34:06
in the polls they’ve got it split almost
34:10
exactly in the middle what they
34:11
were reporting that reporting is even
34:13
now turned off but even in the polls
34:15
that mainstream media admitted to
34:19
they had it the population 50 the way it
34:22
was reported is 49 point whatever
34:24
percent
34:25
believe that the elections weren’t fair
34:28
so call it 50 now what they’re not
34:31
reporting is
34:33
you know and and that’s you know the the
34:35
old saying there’s lies there’s damn
34:37
lies and then there’s polls
34:38
and uh you know statistics was the word
34:41
but i’m using polls in this place but
34:43
the this is this is a manipulation of
34:46
even basic data
34:47
50 of the people think that the the
34:49
elections were unfair
34:51
there was something wrong with them that
34:53
leaves 50
34:54
of the people so their implication is
34:57
that the nation is divided
34:59
that 50 of the people think that
35:00
elections were great and 50
35:03
percent of the people think they weren’t
35:04
but that’s that’s a lie
35:06
that by implication you’re leaving out
35:08
information it’s a lie of a mission
35:11
of that remaining 50 percent that’s
35:13
divided in half again
35:14
because there’s people who don’t have an
35:16
opinion or don’t know
35:18
or you know unsure all of those sorts of
35:21
responses
35:22
form up about half of those people it’s
35:24
only about 25 percent of the people
35:27
who who claim 20 25 percent
35:30
who either claim or think that the
35:32
election was fair
35:33
so in the scheme of things two to one
35:36
the united states of america knows the
35:38
election was fraudulent
35:40
i mean we’re in a situation where
35:43
all of that if all of that’s true which
35:45
we never get to see
35:47
because because of activist judges
35:49
activist prosecutors activists
35:51
law enforcement particularly the fbi
35:54
none of these cases have been picked up
35:56
so even though for example rudy giuliani
35:58
pumped out a lot of information and said
36:00
look
36:01
we went to the voter rolls in this state
36:04
we went down the who voted and we went
36:06
down the death certificates and found
36:08
matches for 10 000 people
36:11
that turns the election they tried to
36:13
sue in court and got it thrown out
36:15
that’s public record all they did was
36:17
take public records and match them up
36:19
and find 10 000 matches and say
36:21
fraudulent election
36:23
that doesn’t get its day in court but it
36:25
did not
36:26
and there was case after case after that
36:28
affidavits and all of this information
36:30
that’s out there
36:31
that in any normal case
36:34
was more than enough for a grand jury
36:37
and
36:38
a full-blown investigations would be
36:40
done of people or organizations
36:42
and they would end up in jail based on
36:44
less evidence than there was on this
36:46
election
36:46
yet here we are like what i’m saying to
36:50
you now
36:51
uh in mainstream media is considered
36:53
tinfoil hat but yet
36:55
i’ve seen the paper you know i’ve seen
36:58
those things there where the
36:59
list of dead people in the list of
37:01
voters and there were a lot of names
37:03
that were the same on there
37:04
and you can match them up by address and
37:06
stuff so it’s not just
37:08
like maybe you know maybe that was true
37:11
it was clear black and white that you
37:13
had thousands of dead people voting
37:16
enough that you could have overturned
37:17
some of these states yet that doesn’t
37:19
see the light of day in court
37:21
you you just can’t tell me that that’s
37:23
not corruption that that’s an honest
37:24
election it’s just
37:25
not and yet our discussion of this this
37:29
point if
37:29
brought out i mean youtube would give us
37:31
a strike and uh
37:33
you know claim that we’re undermining
37:35
the you know
37:36
whatever it is of the elections the
37:38
integrity of the elections i think is
37:39
what they’re using
37:40
but but should i not
37:43
in the united states under the
37:45
constitution have the first amendment
37:47
right to say
37:48
especially when i’m laying out the data
37:50
as to what makes me believe it i’m not
37:52
saying
37:52
you know i hate biden therefore he’s not
37:56
a legitimate president
37:57
i’m saying which i don’t particularly
37:59
respect biden but i don’t dislike him
38:02
and but i’m able to go down and point
38:04
out look there’s this there’s this
38:05
there’s this there’s this
38:07
those things all give me reason to
38:09
believe that the election was not
38:10
legitimate
38:11
i don’t think biden won i think he lost
38:15
and these numbers that he supposedly got
38:17
like he
38:19
vastly exceeded the number of votes
38:21
within the black community that obama
38:23
got
38:24
i mean come on that you know that
38:28
doesn’t make any sense i mean
38:30
biden is a schmuck nobody even really
38:31
liked him and he’s senile and
38:33
you know he didn’t he did not get those
38:36
votes
38:37
he just didn’t get him no and
38:40
you know you can’t look at the facts and
38:42
the data and those
38:43
vertical jumps of vitan boats votes and
38:46
you put all that together and start
38:47
looking at this picture that’s being
38:48
painted for you
38:49
and it’s it’s inescapable there are many
38:52
many reasons to believe
38:53
that the election was not fair
38:57
and yet that for example just even
39:00
saying that
39:01
uh even if you lay out all of those
39:03
examples of why you think it wasn’t fair
39:05
which should be well within the realm of
39:07
first amendment rights to stay
39:08
state so publicly uh is is is
39:11
censored by everyone absolutely everyone
39:14
and yet
39:15
for four years that’s exactly what we
39:17
heard
39:18
out of the democrats about trump that he
39:20
was not
39:21
legitimately elected he didn’t really
39:23
win he cheated he
39:25
russian collusion all this stuff thing
39:27
after thing after thing after thing has
39:28
been disproven
39:29
those things have been shown to be false
39:33
by legal investigations a special
39:36
prosecutor
39:37
couldn’t find any evidence of that being
39:39
true
39:40
in fact go ahead we saw endless
39:44
uh evidences uh you didn’t have to look
39:47
very far to see evidences of of
39:49
discrepancies or abnormalities or
39:52
irregularities in
39:53
so many states and uh it just
39:57
seemed to be increasingly more bizarre
40:00
that there was such a push to
40:04
attack those that were wanting to speak
40:06
about this
40:07
rather than to deal with solving the
40:10
problem
40:10
they didn’t want to deal with the
40:12
problem they only wanted to attack those
40:14
that were bringing up the problem
40:16
i don’t think i could have ever possibly
40:18
imagined
40:19
america being so censored
40:23
such a destruction of your first
40:24
amendment rights canada doesn’t have
40:26
a first amendment we do not have the
40:28
right to free speech
40:30
he looked to america in in in with
40:33
great envy of that amendment
40:36
you know that first amendment that you
40:38
guys have and we are sitting here seeing
40:40
this
40:40
being demolished 50 million accounts at
40:43
a time on twitter for as an
40:44
example or parlor being removed all of
40:47
these things that are
40:49
blatantly blatantly destroying your very
40:52
first amendment
40:54
and nobody is allowed to discuss that
40:58
that’s absolutely right and it’s one of
40:59
the things again i kind of hearken back
41:01
particularly to eastern europe it’s one
41:02
of the things
41:03
often discussed there anytime we’ve seen
41:05
a socialist takeover worldwide and by
41:08
the way
41:08
progressive liberal socialist communist
41:11
that’s all really one thing i mean they
41:13
call themselves different names but
41:14
that’s
41:15
one thing so generically i’m using the
41:17
word socialist but communist whatever
41:19
same stuff and here in the united states
41:21
they call themselves progressives but
41:22
they’re socialist communists all the
41:24
same thing
41:24
so anytime you would see a socialist
41:27
takeover in any one of these countries
41:29
what’s the first thing they did and it’s
41:31
always
41:32
seized the media and control all
41:35
reporting
41:36
not allow dissident reporting to come
41:38
out uh widespread censorship
41:41
exactly what we’re seeing here in the
41:42
united states because it’s the same
41:44
thing this is a
41:46
this is the true coup that has taken
41:49
place in the united states and
41:51
communists and socialists they’re
41:52
they’re always it’s always easy to know
41:54
what they’re guilty of
41:55
because whatever they’re guilty of is
41:57
what they’re blaming everybody else
41:59
for and that is a built-in defense
42:01
because
42:02
you know it puts them in a position
42:04
they’re blaming everybody else for doing
42:05
a coup
42:06
they’re the ones doing the coup so if i
42:08
come out and say well they’re the ones
42:10
doing the real coup
42:11
they’ll they’re just they’re you know
42:12
you’re you’re like on this even footing
42:14
from their perspective and they can say
42:16
well you’re crazy you know we’re you
42:18
know we’ve got the fbi backing us and
42:20
oh wow you know you’re the real kid and
42:23
you know it just puts them on this even
42:25
footing
42:26
to argue back and they have all of the
42:29
the you know the organs of power within
42:32
the united states under their control so
42:33
they’re able to make it stick
42:35
i would if if you would allow me i would
42:37
sort of turn
42:38
and say you know look we can you we
42:40
point out all of these problems and i
42:41
hope for your
42:43
you know viewing audience that most of
42:45
what we’ve kind of talked about
42:47
they all see to be true and now kind of
42:50
the question that begs itself
42:52
is what to do about it and
42:57
i would say going forward they’re really
43:00
two areas that are left i mean we have
43:02
am radio
43:02
some fm so-called radio is still out
43:05
there and we have the blogosphere
43:08
and there’s an another area that
43:09
hopefully will come up and be
43:11
something that’s used called the
43:12
fetiverse which basically are all these
43:15
independent nodes
43:16
uh that you they’re kind of like twitter
43:20
independent twitters that can all
43:22
communicate with each other and you
43:23
can’t be censored or shut down or all
43:25
that sort of stuff you could block
43:26
somebody
43:27
but you can’t nope there’s no twitter
43:29
that owns it all that can come in and
43:30
say
43:31
you’re shut down or we’re reducing your
43:33
numbers or any of that
43:34
so that may be an area that grows right
43:36
now it’s all fracked up it doesn’t work
43:38
very well but
43:39
you know it’s hopefully something that
43:40
will get fixed and grow so that we have
43:42
that as well
43:43
but there’s only really two avenues left
43:45
to us these sorts of blogosphere
43:47
uh i’ll use that term generically for
43:49
the radio and the other ways that are
43:51
out there but this sort of
43:52
general blogosphere universe where we’re
43:54
able to talk and communicate
43:56
and expose the truth as best we can
44:00
and then the grassroots and that
44:02
grassroots is a very powerful tool
44:04
that’s been
44:06
almost completely ignored by the
44:07
republican party who as i said you know
44:09
they’ve kind of gone over to the dark
44:11
side you can see that
44:12
what they really are coming out now in
44:14
today’s politics like mike pence and
44:15
mike pompeo and
44:17
all of these different characters that
44:18
are out there that are you know
44:20
like no like i talk about irony and it’s
44:23
just so bizarre
44:25
uh swalwell who’s the congressman from
44:27
california
44:28
who was sleeping with the chinese spy
44:31
and the chinese spy
44:33
was funneling money into his campaign
44:36
that’s the guy who’s in charge of the
44:38
impeachment
44:40
uh and in the in the house uh you know
44:43
on the hill right now of president trump
44:45
i mean well you like
44:48
who could nobody can write this for
44:50
fiction it’s it’s where truth
44:52
so exceeds the weirdness of fiction it’s
44:54
just almost
44:55
unbelievable but you know they you it
44:57
it’s become clear to me and
44:59
a little bit of a side note but you’re
45:00
either you’re either on team
45:03
china or you’re on
45:06
team america and the patriots all of us
45:09
that are out there
45:11
we’re on team patriots you know team
45:13
america uh
45:14
you’re trying to bring back and live you
45:17
know what the united states can be at
45:18
its best
45:20
and you’ve got these other guys that are
45:21
all about corruption and making money
45:23
with china
45:23
and you know cheating and doing whatever
45:25
they have to do to maintain power
45:27
and so one of the one of the few ways we
45:31
have to fight them back is grassroots
45:33
and grass roots for conservatives um
45:35
patriots is difficult
45:37
because by our mindset we’re more
45:40
like independent take care of your
45:41
family do your job and you want to be
45:43
left alone and
45:44
you want to enjoy the fruits of the
45:45
freedoms that your country has and all
45:47
that when it comes
45:48
time to fight a foreign enemy okay well
45:50
by god we’ll go take care of the
45:51
business there
45:52
but in the meantime it’s like well you
45:53
know now i’m going to be with my family
45:55
and so we’re not the natural
45:58
conspirators like you find on the left
46:00
that where they’re that type of mindset
46:02
so it’s hard but it’s something that we
46:04
have to overcome as
46:06
conservatives and patriots and start
46:09
getting involved at this grassroots
46:10
level
46:11
and we can start attacking them in their
46:12
underbelly because the republicans
46:14
aren’t doing it the democrats aren’t
46:15
doing it the democrats don’t need it
46:17
so they’re going to ignore it but there
46:19
are a lot of communities out there the
46:21
minority communities
46:23
you know the black vote went over to
46:25
trump in a big way compared to previous
46:27
republicans
46:28
that is very significant too
46:32
sorry hispanic vote as well very much so
46:35
and a lot of other minority groups too
46:37
that nobody talks about the asians but
46:38
they did as well
46:40
and uh the military seeing them turn
46:43
their backs on the street i mean there
46:44
is a
46:45
very deep deep anger here
46:48
that these guys do not see they do not
46:51
believe
46:52
and they’re again they’re the left in
46:55
particular
46:56
always operates in this echo chamber
46:58
which is again they always blame the
46:59
right for this but they’re the ones that
47:00
are guilty of it
47:02
they operate in this this chamber where
47:04
where
47:05
pence honestly believes
47:08
that he can play what he did betraying
47:11
trump
47:12
off as some sort of courageous patriotic
47:16
thing and you see that play out over and
47:18
over
47:19
nancy pelosi who’s the house majority
47:22
speaker
47:23
and mitch mcconnell who’s the senate was
47:25
the senate majority
47:26
leader go off and they get their their
47:29
inoculation
47:30
shot for covid and they’re saying we’re
47:32
being brave you know we’re being leaders
47:34
and we’re showing that
47:35
you want to go get the shot you know bs
47:38
i mean
47:39
stupid lies i mean does anyone really
47:41
believe that they wanted their fracking
47:43
shot and they were trying to spin this
47:46
in such a way
47:47
that that that them selfishly taking
47:49
care of their own ass
47:50
first you know is some sort of act of
47:52
bravery and courage and leadership and
47:54
all that what a load up
47:56
i know i keep saying it but it was just
47:58
you know just unbelievable you know and
48:00
that’s that’s washington dc
48:02
and they’re they’re trying to constantly
48:04
spin this stuff off into saying oh
48:06
i’m so brave well i just for the record
48:09
let me say nancy pelosi mitch mcconnell
48:11
i know you’re not listening but if if
48:14
you ever want to know what bravery would
48:16
be
48:16
and courage and leadership you should
48:19
have taken your
48:20
injection gone down to the seniors
48:23
assisted
48:23
living center down there where you have
48:26
old people who are
48:27
actually in the high risk category and
48:30
given your fracking shot
48:32
to them that would have been leadership
48:35
that would have been courage that would
48:36
have been bravery and you guys don’t
48:38
even know what that is i mean what
48:40
these guys they’re just such scumbags
48:42
this is why i say these guys are
48:44
scumbags what is comeback thing yeah i’m
48:46
gonna
48:46
i’m gonna steal all your money and call
48:48
it an act of bravery
48:50
it’s it’s beyond belief with these guys
48:52
so
48:54
anyway this this uh
48:57
grassroots way uh method is the way we
49:00
fight back
49:01
and we’ve got to start taking out these
49:03
guys politically
49:04
and be clear not saying go shoot them in
49:06
the head i’m saying
49:07
shoot them in the head politically get
49:10
rid of them politically
49:11
make them lose their office humiliate
49:14
them
49:14
politically if mitch mcconnell gets
49:17
trounced in the primary
49:19
you know he’s he’s gonna go on he’s
49:21
already worth hundreds of millions of
49:22
dollars he doesn’t care but
49:24
but it will humiliate him he’ll be
49:26
destroyed politically he won’t be able
49:27
to come back from that
49:28
and that’s what we want yes he’s going
49:30
to go off and enjoy the
49:32
how a guy on 200 000 years worth three
49:35
or four hundred million dollars is a
49:37
mystery worth investigating in my
49:38
opinion
49:39
but it’s not going to happen
49:42
there’s an epidemic of that when you
49:44
look at people like biden of 47 years in
49:46
in
49:47
and uh pelosi uh 40 plus years
49:51
uh at a hundred and some thousand or
49:53
almost two and not even two hundred
49:54
thousand dollars a year
49:55
how do these people get to be you know
49:57
nearly billionaires
49:59
uh that’s just i mean it’s just like a
50:02
rocket science to figure out that
50:03
there’s shady business going on there
50:05
there is no way that that can happen
50:08
um but one of the things that you really
50:11
i’m hoping people get out of this when
50:12
you’re talking about the grassroots
50:14
movement
50:15
um as being a way to fight this i
50:18
i i couldn’t agree with you more we are
50:20
at war
50:21
and the war didn’t end with trump uh
50:24
the election or biden or any of these
50:27
things the war is going to continue
50:28
because this is a war of justice and
50:31
rightfulness
50:32
uh that we’re up against it’s an
50:33
information war and a war is being waged
50:35
to us by a
50:36
foreign entity a globalist entity
50:40
and i’ve been across canada uh
50:43
half a dozen times in the last couple of
50:45
years at the grassroots level and this
50:46
is what people are starting to see and
50:48
understand because you’re right
50:49
the people on the on the conservative
50:51
side of the fence they are
50:52
not these career activists they are not
50:55
generational activists they don’t
50:58
you know get grow up with
51:01
uh placards or uh protest signs in their
51:04
hands by the time they’re two like most
51:06
of the
51:06
the left side of the fence does and that
51:09
that’s a really important point because
51:10
we’re apparently coming up to another
51:12
election here in canada and i expect it
51:15
to be just about as honest as the one
51:16
that just happens down there
51:18
but it can be it can be beaten at a
51:21
grassroots level
51:23
it really can that’s the only way to
51:24
take the wind out of their sails i
51:26
believe is if
51:27
100 people in every community go and uh
51:30
run against the guy that has the power
51:33
and the corruption the control of the of
51:35
the switch per se
51:37
uh at this point in time but moving
51:40
forward here now from that
51:42
one of the things that i’ve i’ve
51:46
thought long and hard about and the
51:48
difference because i get asked a lot
51:50
why do you follow american what’s
51:52
happening down in america so much why
51:54
don’t you care about canada
51:56
uh what is what is so significant what
51:58
is different
52:00
one of the things that i i have to
52:02
suggest is that americans traditionally
52:05
you guys have an inherent
52:09
need for justice
52:12
you guys will go a long ways
52:15
out of your way for justice justice
52:19
must be prevailed that is the right into
52:22
the
52:22
fabric of who we see as america
52:25
as a nation and what gives them the the
52:28
power to be
52:30
the great nation that they are is that
52:32
you don’t let people get away with
52:35
but
52:38
here we are yes here we are
52:41
and i i were a real sore point for me
52:44
and something i push on all the time
52:46
is that famous speech that comey gave
52:48
back in uh
52:50
uh i guess it was
52:54
2015 july of 2015 where he talked about
52:58
the hillary clinton
53:00
uh servers and all that stuff well
53:03
okay that aside and by the way comey in
53:07
that speech
53:08
admitted to there being 10 or 12 lines
53:11
or chains of emails
53:15
in which there was two or three hundred
53:18
uh classified documents per chain
53:21
so we’re talking 2500 or 3000 classified
53:25
documents
53:26
now in that uh speech where he admitted
53:29
to this he ended up by saying but no
53:31
prosecutor would ever have to go after
53:32
hillary clinton for all this stuff it
53:33
was sloppy behavior but
53:35
that’s it well okay that aside
53:38
anthony weiner’s laptop who got
53:40
investigated for some you know weird
53:42
sexual child scandal underage girl sort
53:44
of thing that he was up to
53:46
uh that computer of his got confiscated
53:48
by the fbi they go through it
53:51
that guy who did the uh investigation
53:54
for the fbi who
53:55
was exploiting the computers was subject
53:58
of an ig investigation along with
54:00
everything else the ig asked him you
54:01
know what about all that stuff that was
54:03
on there
54:03
he said that james comey misled the
54:07
american people by roughly a factor of
54:09
10
54:10
as to how many classified documents are
54:12
on that computer so we go from 2500 to
54:14
3000 to
54:16
25 000 or 30 000 classified documents on
54:18
a computer
54:19
that computer ended up at quantico where
54:22
fbi has
54:22
a lot of facilities uh and
54:26
they took another look at that computer
54:27
there was another ig inspection
54:29
that second ig inspection said on that
54:31
computer there’s a second
54:33
area of memory that we’ve never looked
54:36
in
54:36
but it has the same capacity as the
54:39
first set
54:40
so double what we already know so
54:43
there may be as many as not 25 or 30 but
54:47
double that
54:48
50 or 60 000 classified documents on
54:50
that computer there may be we don’t know
54:52
because nobody’s gone through it to find
54:54
out one classified document
54:57
at home on somebody’s computer is
54:59
illegal
55:00
there’s different levels of
55:02
classification so different levels of
55:04
law involved
55:05
but every single one of them if you have
55:06
a classified document home on your
55:08
personal computer
55:09
that you’ve had out on the internet
55:10
that’s illegal the russians and chinese
55:13
have all those documents
55:15
but we don’t know what’s on there so no
55:16
investigation has been done to go back
55:18
and look to see what damage was done
55:20
what we need to do to mitigate that
55:22
damage nor has there been any
55:24
prosecution ever done of any of that
55:25
stuff
55:26
it’s one of those open and shut cases
55:28
law enforcement does this every single
55:30
day of the week
55:31
you know every year on the calendar and
55:34
that is you go to that criminal which is
55:36
anthony weiner
55:37
and say anthony my friend you have 50 or
55:40
60 000 classified documents on your
55:42
computer dome
55:43
each one of those is an individual crime
55:45
and illegal
55:46
somebody’s going to jail for this
55:47
anthony is it you
55:49
are you taking the heat for this one are
55:51
you going to jail for the rest of your
55:52
life
55:53
are you going to be buzzed you know what
55:55
in jail or
55:56
do you want to tell us where you got it
55:58
well he probably got it from his wife
55:59
uma who was hillary’s assistant now i’m
56:01
not even
56:03
you know i don’t know that hillary did
56:04
all that i mean certainly it’s
56:06
suspicious that she was involved and
56:07
gave the orders to have this happen
56:09
but we don’t know because it was never
56:10
investigated who knows maybe uma was
56:12
doing it for whatever her reasons were
56:14
but then you say okay anthony you’ve
56:16
turned over um you know
56:18
kumas so we’ll go to her and say uma
56:20
there’s 50 or 60 000 classified
56:22
documents on this computer are you going
56:23
to jail for the rest of your life
56:24
you know you just work yourself up the
56:26
chain until you find who’s guilty but
56:28
yet
56:29
that computer sits in quantico it’s
56:31
never been touched
56:33
how do you paint that other than
56:35
corruption
56:37
it’s just pure corruption and that
56:40
is being left untouched because people
56:42
tie it to hillary clinton
56:44
and so we now have this certain class of
56:47
of
56:47
political leaders that are untouchable
56:50
they can do whatever the frack they want
56:52
there’s people sitting in jail right now
56:54
for one classified document
56:56
some guy in the submarine case you know
56:58
took a photograph of himself
57:00
sitting at his seat because he wanted to
57:01
like show his mom
57:03
and that photograph had some little
57:05
classified thing behind him in the
57:06
photograph
57:07
the guy went to jail he wasn’t trying to
57:10
do anything wrong
57:11
he was taking a picture for his family
57:13
his mom
57:14
and yet there was a piece of classified
57:16
in jail it didn’t matter
57:17
what his intent was and by the way
57:19
that’s the law comey said well she
57:21
didn’t intend to do anything wrong she
57:23
was just sloppy
57:25
but that guy on that computer here on
57:27
that phone
57:28
uh camera at his desk he wasn’t trying
57:30
to
57:31
he was sloppy he got a picture
57:33
accidentally of something in the
57:34
background that got him in trouble
57:35
well it’s because the law doesn’t allow
57:38
for your intent
57:39
it doesn’t matter what your intent was
57:41
the law says do you have it at home or
57:43
not
57:43
if you have it at home it’s illegal and
57:45
yet again this this sort of corruption
57:47
just
57:49
is blatant and nobody cares the only guy
57:52
mentioning the anthony laptop uh anthony
57:54
leaner laptop is myself anymore but yet
57:56
it’s it’s this festering sword out there
57:58
as long as these people are able to get
58:00
away with
58:01
that blatantly illegal behavior how can
58:03
we become a moral country how can we be
58:05
a country of laws how can we be a
58:08
country that respects our constitution
58:09
how do we have those rights to free
58:11
speech and that’s
58:12
that’s all part of the problem all part
58:13
of this going going away and
58:15
as i said the i i think the
58:18
keeping these communications lines of
58:20
communications open through radio
58:22
through the blogosphere hopefully
58:24
through the fetiverse the federated
58:26
sites uh hopefully we’ll keep all this
58:29
alive there and this can play out
58:32
in the in the in the primaries in a lot
58:34
of places and there’s this list of
58:36
people
58:36
i believe there were 10 that uh i don’t
58:39
have that list in front of me but there
58:41
i think there were 10 congressmen that
58:43
voted to impeach
58:44
republicans that voted to impeach trump
58:46
and four that abstained
58:47
which is in tandem on voting for it and
58:52
those guys have to cannot go unpunished
58:55
i mean politically
58:56
but they have to be punished and uh
59:00
you know when i’m not suggesting that
59:02
here for canada but in the in the states
59:04
when i talk about this i tell everyone
59:05
look if you’re in this guy’s district
59:07
call him be polite make your point
59:10
because it’s some intern is going to be
59:12
answering the phone you’re not going to
59:13
talk to the
59:14
congressman and screaming at him doesn’t
59:15
help just politely say hey
59:17
what you did is wrong i’m gonna vote
59:19
against you you know
59:20
i want you out and if they get a lot of
59:23
phone calls they attribute a certain
59:25
weight to each of these phone calls
59:27
because they think that
59:28
one phone call is representative of say
59:30
a thousand people or something like that
59:33
so if they get a hundred phone calls
59:34
they’re saying holy you know that’s
59:36
a hundred thousand that represents a
59:37
hundred thousand people
59:38
of the same sentiment that’s why i say
59:40
anyone in the united states
59:42
you know if you’re in the district of
59:43
one of those guys call call and complain
59:46
you know politely
59:47
make your point and nothing more because
59:49
it uh it doesn’t do any good they get
59:52
angry when people call and swear and
59:54
make threats and stuff like that and
59:55
they won’t hear your message
59:57
and the idea is to get your message
59:58
across but uh
60:01
we at air that’s going to be one of the
60:03
next steps we’re going to try to
60:04
organize all uh
60:06
and in some areas at the grassroots
60:09
level as well because
60:10
uh it’s one of the very few ways to
60:12
start getting the message out
60:14
to people and let people start acting on
60:16
it and acting on it in such a way that
60:18
uh is you know fully completely utterly
60:21
totally legal
60:22
and it’s very hard to interfere with and
60:27
trying to back certain candidates and
60:28
things like that it’s it’s something
60:30
that’s very difficult for people
60:32
in the on the democratic party side to
60:35
block especially in the primary
60:37
because they have nothing to do with the
60:38
primaries they can’t really cheat on the
60:40
votes and things like that and these
60:42
people
60:42
like former vice president pence need to
60:46
understand that politically
60:47
they’re done they’re done i mean and
60:50
that is something i i don’t know if that
60:52
message has gotten through but we will
60:54
set an example if he’s finished and
60:57
people like you know he shows up to
60:58
speak and they start turning their back
61:00
and walking away
61:01
you know that sends a message that has
61:04
reverberations
61:05
within the political world where these
61:07
other politicians will stand up and take
61:09
note like
61:10
well don’t do what pence did because
61:11
you’re toast and
61:13
those are the ways that we have to start
61:15
acting i i think people are going to
61:17
start
61:18
taking action upon themselves uh just
61:20
from from
61:21
pain you know being at the grassroots
61:24
level and talking to as many people as i
61:25
do all over the world
61:27
um i think people have been waiting uh
61:29
for a very very very long time for
61:32
something to change for some form of
61:34
justice to happen and they’ve been
61:36
peacefully following the law to the to
61:39
the greater extent
61:41
and in this regard i’m talking about
61:44
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61:46
uh but this has been going on the
61:48
clintons are an easy one to
61:50
talk about so much evidence
61:54
out there about them already i mean
61:56
going back to the tainted blood scandal
61:58
to
61:59
to contra to uh benghazi
62:02
to like there is a never ending stream
62:06
of crime coming out of this and
62:09
this was where trump was supposed to be
62:12
to the grassroots guy he was supposed to
62:15
be the one that was going to
62:17
clean up this swamp to drain this swamp
62:21
and now we see a new swamp
62:25
master in dc
62:28
um how long will us encouraging people
62:31
to
62:32
do things peacefully at the grassroots
62:35
level
62:35
how long is that actually going to are
62:37
people actually going to hear that
62:38
because
62:39
really what we’re facing is the america
62:41
was facing a coup
62:42
in this moment but we are facing a
62:44
global coup
62:46
because it’s the same thing happening in
62:47
almost every country or
62:49
every western pre-democratic nation in
62:52
the world is experiencing the same thing
62:54
right now
62:55
how long before this boils over
62:58
yeah i i don’t know that’s a good
63:00
question i mean uh
63:02
let me lay some of the groundwork for
63:03
that on on president trump and he
63:06
i i’m just outside of washington dc so
63:09
go a lot of the meetings and stuff i’d
63:10
never have
63:11
met uh president trump i i would have
63:13
been honored to do so but never met him
63:15
personally but
63:16
our our circles uh intersect so a lot of
63:19
the people that are around the president
63:21
are people that i’ve dealt with one way
63:22
or another
63:24
not that i have you know great insight
63:26
or knowledge but i have a pretty good
63:28
uh perspective i would say president
63:30
trump came into office thinking that he
63:32
was going to win people over
63:34
when they saw that he was honestly
63:36
sincerely trying to do the best for the
63:38
united states of america
63:40
and that’s not how politics works here
63:42
and
63:43
the people that hated him continued to
63:45
hate him and do everything they could do
63:46
to screw him over
63:48
one of his great mistakes was trusting
63:50
the
63:51
republican blue bloods if you will the
63:53
the mitch mcconnell’s the the
63:55
pence the mike pompeos all of these guys
63:59
that are that traditional republican
64:00
rhino sort of faction they’re not the
64:02
real
64:03
conservative patriots he trusted them
64:05
and tried to bring them in and was
64:07
trying to convince them to join and help
64:09
and all that and that failed
64:11
he thought that by draining the swamp
64:15
what he had to do was change laws and a
64:19
lot of the red tape went away a lot of
64:20
things have
64:21
you know really worked very smoothly
64:23
even stuff that
64:24
touches on me how paperwork is done for
64:26
non-profits and things like that
64:28
uh really was was made streamlined and
64:30
made much much better
64:31
the president did fabulous work in that
64:33
area
64:34
but being a businessman he didn’t
64:36
understand what the swamp is he bought
64:37
into that thing that people are always
64:39
out there saying oh you know
64:40
these federal workers the average
64:42
federal worker is just this really hard
64:43
working professional that blah blah blah
64:45
that’s all bs
64:46
they’re not and especially at the senior
64:48
ranks they’re deeply deeply
64:50
partisan and
64:54
president trump never until the very end
64:58
you know really understood that
65:01
fundamental difference of what defines
65:03
the swamp
65:04
the swamp is the people what forms that
65:06
swamp are the individuals that are there
65:09
maintaining the swamp and he thought it
65:12
was
65:12
the regulations and laws and like i said
65:14
he did great work
65:16
fixing that but he left that swamp
65:18
behind and he never really dug in and
65:20
tried to clean out
65:21
places there were only a few individual
65:24
places that
65:24
that within the bureaucracy that got
65:26
cleaned out to any degree whatsoever it
65:28
was almost
65:29
all completely ignored part of it was by
65:32
the people he surrounded himself with
65:33
early on who didn’t want him to
65:35
understand
65:36
that stuff so that i think was his
65:38
fundamental mistake not being a
65:40
politician he didn’t
65:41
recognize these things and didn’t have
65:44
people around him like if he if he’d had
65:48
50 old farts like myself who’ve been
65:51
through the
65:52
decades of this crap who understood how
65:55
this bureaucracy works
65:56
we would have sat down with him and said
65:58
but who told you that no that’s
66:00
dumb you got to do this like how to get
66:04
that classified information out of the
66:06
cia that was being blocked according to
66:08
federalist reporting
66:09
was being blocked personally by the then
66:12
director
66:13
uh gina haspel that he could ask me i
66:17
could have fixed that in 15 minutes
66:18
you know he publicly gave the order but
66:20
publicly giving an order
66:22
doesn’t make it in order you know yet
66:25
you could have
66:25
written a memo and signed it and sent it
66:27
over delivered it to her and said here’s
66:29
your orders go do this
66:30
you will do it this time this time this
66:32
way this way this way and it would
66:33
happen
66:34
but see he doesn’t get that stuff he
66:36
doesn’t have that background why would
66:37
he
66:38
why would any normal person understand
66:39
that stuff and and
66:41
no one would so he he did not it’s not a
66:44
criticism it’s an observation of fact
66:46
and so that really bit him in the rear
66:49
and
66:49
i will say i think president trump
66:53
uh finally gave up uh i think the death
66:56
blow to his presidency was pence
66:59
and uh he just was betrayed uh
67:03
time after time after time and he did
67:05
not have a team
67:06
around him in order to make what he
67:08
wanted to do
67:09
stick and so he without that team
67:12
he had no basis to fight back and that’s
67:15
what did him in here at the end
67:17
now your the other part of your question
67:18
is what’s going to happen will people
67:20
will people work on grassroots and you
67:23
know will frustration boil over
67:24
are they going to turn to more
67:26
aggressive means violence or something
67:28
like that
67:29
i’ll just say look the stage is already
67:32
set
67:33
that uh white
67:36
right-wing violence is
67:39
already been demonized for a very long
67:43
time
67:43
the democrats are very well prepared for
67:46
that sort of thing they have
67:47
the fbi almost all not local law
67:51
enforcement but
67:52
federal law enforcement and dhs
67:55
all of those organs of power
67:58
are on their side and are controlled by
68:00
them you cannot overcome all of that
68:04
uh you know with with violence i would
68:07
say
68:07
you know you’d have to get to the point
68:09
where you know you had massive militias
68:12
with the full national guard all suited
68:14
up
68:15
full military equipment tanks and
68:16
armored vehicles and aircraft support
68:19
and stuff like that
68:20
you would have to get to that stage to
68:22
make it stick in any way shape or form
68:25
and you could your only hope would be as
68:27
a deterrent
68:28
where the federal government would not
68:29
send in troops where you’re having
68:31
troops fight troops
68:33
but i don’t think i mean i think they
68:34
would i think that the democrats are
68:36
happy to kill anyone i think they
68:38
want civil war so it’s one of those
68:41
things is it’s
68:42
what is the pathway to success what’s
68:45
the happy
68:45
outcome by choosing any sort of path of
68:48
that nature
68:49
well how is it going to work out well to
68:51
our benefit as
68:52
patriots to do that now uh
68:56
you being in the cia and being around
68:57
covert action i you know most of my
68:59
career was in areas of
69:01
what you know we call conflict conflicts
69:03
of war so
69:04
you know it’s stuff i’ve seen it’s it’s
69:07
not that i
69:07
you know find it abhorrent if it’s for
69:09
the right reasons to the right end for a
69:11
good purpose and all that sometimes
69:13
those
69:13
wars are required but um
69:17
how you just you don’t have enough of
69:19
anything to win
69:20
and and what does winning look like i
69:22
mean describe how
69:24
creating a militia that fights and does
69:26
something and you know
69:27
what would you do you want to
69:28
assassinate a mayor or what
69:30
what is it you would want to do that
69:32
creates a positive outcome you know by
69:33
marching
69:34
and you know standing up and waving your
69:36
guns and stuff that
69:38
that’s gonna make it worse because
69:40
that’s gonna let the damage
69:41
democrats consolidate their power you
69:44
know it’s not gonna
69:45
it’s not gonna damage their power so uh
69:48
i don’t know i don’t think we’re going
69:50
to see i think there’ll be individuals
69:52
who might get tired
69:54
and and and try to do something but i
69:56
think any act of that nature is going to
69:58
end up being futile
69:59
i i just don’t see how i just don’t see
70:03
how there’s any pathway to anything even
70:05
vaguely resembling
70:06
victory that that uses those
70:09
methodologies so
70:10
i i hope not i i do see the frustration
70:13
i understand completely i wish there was
70:15
some
70:16
more active role i could do you know all
70:19
my life was
70:20
you know i would say i’ve been a man of
70:21
action in the scheme of things
70:23
doing things and i’m not sure that
70:26
grassroots organization
70:28
satisfies that need but that has a path
70:31
to victory
70:32
you know that can have a happy ending
70:35
you know especially if you can do it
70:37
in what have been traditional democratic
70:40
strongholds
70:41
you start putting up good candidates and
70:43
flipping seats
70:44
and they’re not prepared to defend
70:46
against you that’s the beauty of this
70:48
grassroots stuff because they can’t
70:49
defend in every district
70:51
there’s hundreds and hundreds and
70:52
hundreds of congressional districts
70:54
they can’t defend in all the time and be
70:56
ready to cheat in every single one of
70:57
them
70:58
so that’s their underbelly that’s where
71:00
you can get them
71:01
again i i grant you i mean it personally
71:04
i don’t i wouldn’t find that all that
71:05
satisfying until the victory where
71:07
really hurt them i can make the
71:09
you know ahead of the democratic party
71:11
cry like a baby then
71:13
then that probably would satisfy that
71:14
need but uh
71:17
you know i i agree you know these
71:18
political organizations and them
71:21
you know the grassroots thing are they
71:24
just
71:24
they don’t you know it doesn’t provide
71:27
that same satisfaction but what do you
71:28
do like i said
71:30
don’t do dumb ass stuff that doesn’t
71:31
have a path to victory because that’s
71:33
counterproductive you know
71:34
if you can figure out some way that you
71:36
know march holding up a gun
71:38
and you know and it throws biden out you
71:41
know
71:42
clue me into what it is because i i just
71:44
don’t that
71:45
none of that’s possible the only way
71:47
you’re going forward
71:48
would be to have a huge over the next
71:50
two years huge grassroots
71:52
surge where we end up taking control of
71:55
the senate and the house
71:57
and then we go back in two years and
71:59
then we go back and look at the election
72:01
now that took place in november prove
72:05
how all of this stuff was cheating show
72:08
that that biden did not win
72:10
and biden harris presidency even if
72:12
biden’s no longer in office
72:15
and and harris is president with nancy
72:17
pelosi’s vp or whoever it would be
72:19
god forbid but if if that were the
72:21
presidency and vice presidency at the
72:23
time
72:24
they can be voted out by being impeached
72:27
they could be removed the democrats
72:29
would no longer have
72:31
the presidency and vice presidency now
72:33
that would not bring trump back into
72:35
office
72:36
but what it would do it was would put i
72:38
believe it’s the speaker of the house
72:40
who if we had a senate majority leader
72:42
hopefully not mitch mcconnell
72:44
but whoever that individual is would
72:46
then become president step in
72:47
now that is a viable workable
72:52
really hard to succeed plan but it is a
72:55
plan that would do it
72:57
that is a pathway to success anything
72:59
that gets us down that road
73:01
you know which i would argue to
73:03
everybody it’s it’s got to be a
73:04
grassroots sort of movement because the
73:06
republican party is not going to do it
73:08
because they’re useless but that would
73:09
get us victory
73:11
and i’m not sure that this impeachment
73:14
of trump
73:14
i mean the legal gurus that are talking
73:17
about it like
73:19
uh dershowitz on on tv and stuff in
73:21
these interviews is saying that
73:23
impeaching a president after he’s no
73:25
longer president
73:26
that doesn’t exist there’s no such thing
73:28
it’s unconstitutional
73:30
can’t be done so even if they impeach is
73:33
that
73:34
you know that does it hold water does it
73:36
have any meaning
73:37
and according to hammond it would not it
73:39
would be a political statement it
73:41
wouldn’t be
73:41
something that would actually stop trump
73:43
from running for president again which
73:45
he has not said he’ll do rumors are out
73:47
there that he’s talking about a patriot
73:48
finding a patriot party
73:50
rumor’s out there he’s talking about
73:52
founding a media empire
73:53
uh you know time will tell we just we
73:55
just don’t know but
73:56
uh i’m not sure he’s made up his mind
73:58
but those things all of those things
74:01
combined if it gets us to that two-year
74:03
mark
74:03
uh you know then we maybe could we could
74:05
maybe turn this thing around as a
74:07
and be a real surprise dagger to the
74:09
heart of the democrats and and
74:11
a victory but that’s a hard path but it
74:13
is a path
74:14
well and uh we’re getting uh on to an
74:18
hour and 20 minutes here so i don’t want
74:19
to
74:19
be too too long a couple of little
74:21
things on that is is uh
74:23
i i completely agree there is no path to
74:26
any sort of
74:27
victory in violence and i have been
74:29
advocating
74:30
for peaceful uh means for people to
74:33
engage in i
74:34
my my history and background is a man of
74:37
action as well
74:38
you know not like yours but i’ve
74:40
definitely been a boots on the ground
74:42
guy from
74:43
uh you know my entire life from uh my
74:46
time in the militia to firefighting
74:48
and rescue for a lot of years and all
74:50
those things i was an
74:51
action guy so i too find it very
74:54
difficult
74:55
to wait for the grassroots uh
74:58
movement to take hold but i do see that
75:01
that
75:02
is inevitable it is inevitable because
75:04
uh
75:05
i first started talking about this
75:06
global coup about a year ago because i
75:08
could see this coming everywhere
75:10
and it was going to take some time it
75:12
was going to take some time for us to
75:14
learn the hard way because that’s what
75:17
action folks do is they learn through
75:19
trial and error and
75:21
cycling and information and uh
75:24
it was going to take some time but i
75:26
think truly that
75:27
the uh insanity is unsustainable and
75:31
the deeper and farther this goes the
75:33
more people that would not have been
75:35
engaged in anything in a grassroots
75:37
level before
75:38
will be engaged in something like this
75:40
now because
75:42
it is a peaceful non-violent means to
75:46
to some sort of path of victory and
75:47
anything short of that
75:49
any form of violence any form of
75:51
disruption is going to give
75:53
those in currently with the absolute
75:56
power
75:57
exactly what they want the ability to
75:59
squash
76:00
everybody from that point forward so i
76:03
do believe that
76:05
is the case but uh just to kind of give
76:07
some of the folks
76:09
and some answers on uh
76:12
rumors um
76:15
you brought up rumors so there’s been
76:18
so much in in the alternative media
76:22
space
76:23
uh uh and again i’m not a q person i’m
76:27
not a conspiracy
76:28
theorist i’m a conspiracy analyst get
76:31
that straight you hack um
76:34
but there are things that still raise
76:36
questions um
76:38
and some of them we talked about a
76:39
little bit earlier uh
76:41
with with the inauguration and some we
76:43
talked about just a little bit before
76:45
the show
76:46
now in your opinion or based on
76:49
what your understanding of it is because
76:50
we’re canadians we cannot profess to
76:53
understand how things work down there
76:55
the district of columbia is a separate
76:57
entity
76:58
and mr trump has some foresight with the
77:02
insurrection act that he signed in 2018
77:05
to deal with election fraud which was
77:08
the foresight that he saw this happening
77:11
there is a lot of rumor saying now that
77:14
mr biden is only the president of the
77:17
district of columbia
77:18
and mr president or mr trump will be the
77:22
president
77:22
of the republic moving forward is there
77:25
any
77:27
merits to this discussion this uh belief
77:30
that is still
77:31
circulating uh and this i i in part
77:35
i believe this is desperate wishful
77:37
hopeful thinking on a lot of people’s
77:39
part that
77:40
it’s not over it’s not over it’s not
77:42
over they still trump is still going to
77:44
be president
77:46
is there some legal path in that
77:49
story or rumor or hope
77:52
none whatsoever uh unfortunately there’s
77:55
there’s there’s
77:55
zero truth to that there’s a very old
77:57
saying that’s no longer
77:59
pc but it was referring to sports events
78:02
and uh it said it’s it’s not over till
78:04
the fat lady sings and of course the
78:07
national anthem was sung at the end of
78:08
sporting events and in times
78:10
gone by and the lady that came out with
78:13
a loud voice was usually
78:14
quite you know uh large and so that was
78:17
that was the origin of the saying it’s
78:19
not over till the fat lady sings but
78:21
the fat lady has sung it took place at
78:23
the inauguration
78:24
joe biden was inaugurated as president
78:26
united states
78:27
uh it’s done deal and
78:31
while there are a few things that can
78:34
still be done
78:36
like what i laid out in two years if we
78:38
take the house and if we take the senate
78:42
theoretically the presidency of
78:45
joe biden could be impeached as a whole
78:49
so that he and the vp would be gone it’s
78:52
not a thing if you only impeach joe
78:54
biden if he happened to still be there
78:56
and then the vp steps up you would
78:58
impeach the entire presidency
79:00
uh and so they would they would be gone
79:02
if they can be proven that they
79:04
to the satisfaction of the house and
79:06
senate that they could be
79:07
uh that they would impeach and the only
79:10
way that they’re gonna do that the
79:11
current
79:12
house members republicans and the
79:14
current senate members uh would not do
79:16
that
79:17
but that gives us uh you know two years
79:20
to
79:20
hopefully turn that around and get
79:21
enough um patriots in there to to do
79:24
something and maybe it would be popular
79:26
enough that the others would go along
79:27
with it
79:28
you never know but this this thing about
79:30
the um
79:31
what the the different acts that
79:34
president trump signed in 2018
79:36
of which there were several the incir
79:38
insurrection act was one of several
79:40
uh those were heavily looked at and
79:42
everybody was holding out hope
79:44
right until the last moment that somehow
79:47
president
79:49
excuse me president trump would be able
79:50
to enact that or something like it
79:53
in order to turn this around but as i
79:55
said
79:56
the reason in my opinion that president
79:59
trump
79:59
never did any of those things was
80:02
because he knew that he did not have the
80:04
backing of the republican party
80:06
and he knew that he did not have the
80:07
backing of his own administration
80:10
because all of those he’d drawn from the
80:12
wrong people
80:13
uh to head those different organizations
80:16
and we’ve seen uh wolf
80:18
uh the uh former head of dhs he was
80:21
acting director of dhs
80:23
uh resigned and and uh one of the first
80:25
things he did was go on the
80:27
the news circuit there to all the talk
80:29
shows and start
80:30
essentially bad-mouthing president trump
80:33
and uh you know we’ve seen
80:35
uh former vice president stab him in the
80:38
back newt gingrich come out in support
80:39
of that
80:41
a lot of these guys are people that were
80:42
never trump supporters and now
80:44
we see them for what they are so that
80:47
was always
80:48
in my opinion that was always the
80:50
problem that president trump had
80:52
once november third hit and we saw what
80:55
had been done
80:56
is he he if he had built a strong
80:59
administration in the personnel sense
81:03
and had had hand-picked people to be
81:05
around him
81:06
that were trustworthy and those people
81:09
had started to try and actually
81:11
clean out the swamp and bring in good
81:13
people
81:14
then and only then would president trump
81:17
have been able to
81:18
uh really fight back and there is
81:21
historical precedent for that if you
81:23
look at president nixon
81:25
president nixon finally got to the point
81:29
where the republican party
81:31
representative took that walk down the
81:33
hall as they say it
81:34
met with the president said mr president
81:36
you know if you fight this
81:39
we’re not going to back you we’re going
81:41
to take we’re going to help the
81:42
democrats impeach you
81:44
and that was when president nixon
81:46
resigned from office rather than be
81:48
impeached
81:48
because he knew he would lose because he
81:50
didn’t have the backing and from the
81:52
very beginning
81:53
that’s been that has been the problem
81:55
that trump has had now of course he
81:56
wasn’t able to
81:57
get rid of everybody in the senate in
81:59
particular and bring in his own people
82:01
but
82:01
he could have done that in the
82:02
administration if he brought in his own
82:04
people in the administration
82:07
built an organization that he could
82:09
trust
82:11
they would have been able to move that
82:12
down the line and start to bring in
82:14
people that
82:15
that were trustworthy in all of those uh
82:18
uh different agencies if he’d had say
82:21
the top 10 people at department of
82:23
justice
82:24
who were good people who really followed
82:25
the law the same goes for the fbi
82:29
the same goes for the cia same goes for
82:32
nsa
82:33
uh all the different elements in the
82:34
military that are also part of the
82:35
intelligence community
82:37
if he had taken the time and effort to
82:39
build that organization
82:41
he’d be president of the united states
82:42
today but he just didn’t understand
82:45
those things it’s a
82:46
sad state of affairs but it is what it
82:48
is it was one of the things that
82:50
i know that president trump watches some
82:52
of my
82:53
uh videos now i’ve actually gotten
82:55
confirmation back and some
82:56
congratulations from the president on
82:58
on that one i did on italy which is now
83:00
of course is verboten on all of
83:02
the internet but uh you know he i do
83:05
know that he’s
83:06
he’s aware of them as aware of these
83:08
videos and stuff and so
83:10
he gets them off my website this will
83:11
end up on my website so
83:13
uh he may very well see this i don’t
83:15
know but i i
83:17
i i wish that that was something where
83:19
he had gotten just
83:20
uh if he’d had two or three really good
83:22
advisors around him from the very
83:23
beginning
83:24
and had and listened to them and built
83:26
it uh he would have had a chance to do
83:28
more
83:28
and i i pointed out uh one of the senior
83:31
fellows at
83:32
americans for intelligence reform is
83:34
rich higgins who you
83:35
i believe have spoken with and rich uh
83:38
has recently published a book
83:39
called the memo and this was he was on
83:42
the president’s campaign
83:44
back the 2016 campaign and after he won
83:47
was in the national security council nsc
83:50
wrote this memo that laid out all of
83:52
this stuff and said to the president
83:54
you’re surrounded by these guys these
83:55
guys these guys they’re all going to
83:56
screw you over
83:57
and this is what you have to do to fix
83:59
this and move forward and what happened
84:02
rich higgins got walked out the door and
84:04
thrown out on his ear
84:05
and that this book that he’s now
84:08
published just recently which is you can
84:10
find the link to it on the website by
84:12
the way uh so plug for rich
84:14
the uh that uh the website by the way is
84:18
intelreform.org and uh
84:21
that uh that book lays this whole story
84:24
out for everybody if they were ever
84:25
interested and if president trump had
84:27
listened to rich
84:28
back in in 2017 after he’d been
84:31
inaugurated he he would have
84:33
he would have been able to fight all
84:35
this but of course that’s why
84:36
those people around president trump got
84:38
rid of rich it’s because
84:40
they did not want the president of the
84:41
united states to listen to him because
84:42
it would have
84:43
it would have detracted from their
84:45
influence and control over the situation
84:47
so well i did have the honor of uh
84:51
having rich on the show here
84:54
a couple of weeks after you you came on
84:56
the first time and
84:57
it was it was great talking to him he
84:59
inspired he
85:00
you know he left me with so much
85:02
information that i could go and dig into
85:03
and research that
85:05
uh i i’m really really grateful for that
85:08
and i i followed him on on twitter as
85:10
well
85:11
and he seems very angry and upset these
85:14
days on
85:15
on twitter and justify so i think
85:18
uh but uh if if he uh if he’s ever open
85:21
to doing something again i’d i’d
85:23
be more than happy to have him have him
85:26
on for another discussion about you know
85:28
what can we do next what’s what’s next
85:30
uh
85:31
there’s you know there’s probably a
85:33
million other things we could have
85:34
touched on today
85:36
um i really appreciate your time brad is
85:38
there anything that before we head out
85:40
of here today that you want to leave
85:41
folks on we’ve got your
85:43
your uh your website up there
85:46
i really encourage people to state uh
85:49
you know to to follow
85:50
brad’s work here uh they’re doing really
85:53
really sound work and it’s one
85:55
to me one of the last bastions where you
85:57
can get
85:58
accurate information um in the moment
86:00
and
86:01
i i don’t think mr trump is done yet
86:04
uh personally in my personal opinion uh
86:07
if he walks away he’s never gonna be
86:09
able to walk away they’re going to hunt
86:11
and
86:11
hunt him down until the end of time they
86:14
hate him to the point where i think if
86:16
they thought they could get away with
86:17
ending his bloodlines they would do so
86:20
and an absolute complete
86:23
meltdown that uh about that this one man
86:25
has been able to create and i think
86:27
they’re gonna be terrified
86:28
of him for the rest of his days um
86:32
but uh so i don’t think that he’s
86:33
necessarily done yet do you think that
86:35
there’s any surprises coming
86:38
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86:40
well i i first of all i i think your
86:42
your analysis is dead on uh i
86:44
in and again i would give some
86:46
historical precedent you know
86:48
essentially ronald reagan president
86:50
reagan was a very
86:51
similar situation he was a outsider
86:54
republican president who won
86:56
he took in a an establishment republican
87:00
as his vp
87:01
which was bush the daddy and uh
87:04
and was reviled and hated by the press
87:07
forever
87:08
and they never stopped that hatred
87:10
towards him
87:11
even today you will still hear the press
87:14
you know bad mouth
87:15
president reagan who again is one of
87:17
those presidents is one of the best
87:18
presidents we’ve had in
87:20
in the united states so uh i
87:23
there’s just no question whatsoever they
87:25
will never stop
87:26
attacking they will never stop hating
87:29
president trump so
87:31
i agree that that with that that
87:33
president trump
87:34
is never going to be able to get out of
87:35
this because he’s just he’s in for life
87:38
he’s in even after his death they’re
87:40
going to go after his kids
87:41
uh so it’s it’s one of those things by
87:43
the way the daughter
87:44
uh ivanka with jared has political
87:47
ambitions i think she’s toast already
87:50
because of
87:51
a lot of what she did she’s not somebody
87:53
that i would count as having been a
87:55
a an effective supporter of the press
87:57
and i think she did tremendous damage
87:59
both she and jared to the presidency by
88:02
by the people that they brought in
88:03
and uh don jr might have a chance he
88:07
might have a future the other son i
88:09
don’t think he’s interested in politics
88:11
but the daughter i think is toast
88:13
politically uh
88:15
at any rate it’s just it’s a question of
88:17
which way he’ll jump
88:19
is you know he can start his campaign
88:21
now for
88:22
four years from now uh for president
88:25
again
88:26
and uh he could do the media empire he
88:29
could do the uh
88:31
you know the political party run as a
88:33
patriot party candidate
88:35
and if he did that i don’t you know i
88:37
think the republicans he might be able
88:38
to knock the
88:39
republicans out by doing that it would
88:42
be an interesting thing to see
88:44
his problem then would be fielding
88:46
candidates nationwide
88:48
for the congressional seats and in many
88:50
cases that would mean
88:52
the democrats would win some of those
88:54
things unless you could get the
88:56
some of the the republicans to concede i
88:58
don’t know it would be a real mess
89:00
i don’t know if uh if the if the
89:02
president could make that work or not it
89:04
would be a
89:05
very very difficult thing to do but it
89:08
has happened in the united states before
89:10
i mean we used to have a party in the
89:11
united states called the wigs
89:13
uh which was not like wig on your hair
89:15
it’s whig i believe was the spelling
89:18
and it referred to i know some political
89:20
aspect i don’t even know
89:21
like 150 years ago which by us standards
89:24
is really old
89:25
and uh you know so it has happened
89:28
before and there was a new party created
89:30
with
89:31
president lincoln he was the first
89:33
republican president of the united
89:35
states
89:36
and that was really where the republican
89:38
party was created
89:39
so to stop slavery by the way was one of
89:41
the main tenets of the republican party
89:43
so i i don’t know i don’t know it it’ll
89:46
be interesting to see
89:47
as i said before i’m pretty sure the
89:49
president hasn’t made up his mind
89:51
and i don’t think he’s under a lot of
89:53
pressure to make up his mind anytime
89:54
soon and we’ll we’ll just we’ll have to
89:57
see what he does
89:58
i’m i’m actually hoping he’ll run
90:03
my personal opinion is that creating a
90:05
new party
90:07
would probably overall do more damage
90:09
than good
90:11
but you know it it just depends on how
90:13
well it succeeds if seventy percent of
90:15
the republican party goes to the patriot
90:16
party
90:17
like right out of the the from the
90:19
get-go republican party’s toast they’ll
90:21
have to join and
90:22
make peace and figure out a way to to do
90:24
something because all the donors are
90:25
going to go with them
90:27
and uh you know that would that would be
90:29
enough to knock them out of the
90:31
out of the ball game would just see but
90:33
i don’t i don’t know that that would
90:34
happen i think most people would kind of
90:36
hesitate
90:37
i don’t know i don’t know human nature
90:39
all those people that are pissed off all
90:40
the people that are frustrated
90:42
would they do that i just you know i
90:44
don’t know it’d be fun to see
90:46
well i would be quite curious as to how
90:48
it turned out
90:50
i think uh at the end of his term here
90:53
now i think the american public has been
90:55
able to see
90:57
a much clearer image of the uh
91:00
true colors of every single one of their
91:03
representatives
91:04
across the board very very difficult for
91:09
some of these folks to walk down the
91:10
street in peace over the next
91:13
couple of years and i don’t think that’s
91:15
going to get any easier for them
91:17
this is just my personal uh feeling is
91:20
that things are going to get a lot
91:21
messier
91:22
get better in the united states with mr
91:25
biden
91:26
having and then a sandbox
91:29
i think you guys are in deep um with
91:32
some of the
91:32
the the things that are they’re coming
91:34
already you know first day in
91:36
signing back into the paris accord and
91:38
stopping the wall and
91:40
keystone all of these massive uh these
91:44
are these
91:44
big big big hits i don’t
91:48
really want to get into those here now
91:50
or be here for another hour and a half
91:53
i i do think that it’s going to be a
91:56
very quick
91:57
uh change in how uh
92:00
america is perceived within itself over
92:02
the next few
92:03
next couple of months um thank you so
92:06
much again brad for your time
92:08
uh my pleasure maybe maybe uh now if
92:11
things settle down a little bit uh we
92:13
can do this a little bit more often and
92:15
i think there’ll be so many different
92:16
things that we could
92:17
dig into so thank you again all right it
92:20
would be my pleasure i look forward to
92:21
speaking to you again take care everyone
92:22
and thank you
92:24
amen god bless thanks bye for now
92:28
okay uh that was a very interesting
92:31
discussion
92:32
um a lot to process um
92:38
i wanted to get you guys a voice
92:41
that was more um credentialed
92:44
than mine and that was not mainstream
92:47
media
92:47
of any persuasion or color
92:51
i think we’re all in for a very big
92:53
change
92:54
um in both countries i think that
92:58
we are going to continue this slide down
93:01
the
93:01
globalist hill at a breakneck pace
93:05
and it’s going to be up to the people at
93:07
the grassroots level
93:09
exactly as we discussed there earlier uh
93:12
in order to make change but this was uh
93:16
the first uh chance to talk about this
93:20
and it with uh
93:22
with brad and some of this and we’ll uh
93:24
we’ll bring on some other discussions
93:25
very very soon
93:26
so in the meantime stay canadian folks
93:29
keep fighting and uh
93:30
sooner or later we will make canada
93:33
canada again and
93:34
mr trump if you’re watching keep up the
93:36
work good work
93:37
bye for now
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  1. Brad, I appreciate very much hearing from you. Your honest opinions and messages are so appreciated especially during this age when corruption seems ubiquitous. Keep up the good work and THANK YOU.

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