Unstructured’s Eric Hunley interviews Brad Johnson on turbulent times

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all right
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we are live and i am with the presidents
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for
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americans for intelligence reform is
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that correct
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brad johnson now brad
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i’m listening to myself which is very
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annoying
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um sorry brad you were a station chief
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at the cia and i always loved to go into
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because i
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i understand there’s three basic legs of
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the cia
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where you have um operations
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officers analysts and security officers
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is that correct or true still
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well i you know i suppose it depends on
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the context of the discussion
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traditionally the cia was organized
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around four divisions
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the dds and t which is science and
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technology
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administration and then you had
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analytical
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and operational and so that was that’s
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the traditional organization and things
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have
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evolved i guess would be a very polite
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way to say it since the obama years when
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uh when john brennan was the director of
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the cia but he enacted a
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a modernization plan so essentially
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uh you don’t really have
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now it’s kind of an odd mishmash you
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have mission centers that he discussed
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in there
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and so every mission center does
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everything and everybody in there does
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everything
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so what you’ve essentially done is
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eliminate
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uh many of the sort of disciplines that
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existed within there
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now not being an analyst i’m i was the
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operations and so not being an analyst i
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i won’t go too much into them but i mean
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i will will say that was a
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a a craft into unto itself
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and it required time to get good at that
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sort of thing it was it requires
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practice like everything else
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and to sort of dissolve this now
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everybody sort of doing everything
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i think is greatly detracted from the
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analytical capability of the cia which i
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think has deteriorated
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kind of almost beyond recognition now on
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the operation side of it
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it’s more so it’s one of those things
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that’s it’s very black and white whereas
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coming out of uh world war ii we were
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founded the cia was
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of course founded on oss many of the
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less
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sorry was that uh wild bill donovan or
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something like that
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right correct the the uh the the head of
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oss was was bill donovan
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who is credited as being the first
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director of the cia even though
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that’s it that the cia came on board
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or was created after world war ii and
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donovan had never actually worked at the
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cia
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he nevertheless as director of oss is
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credited that way and
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that’s fine i mean rightly so i have no
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problem with that whatsoever
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uh but what’s important out of that is
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all of those lessons learned during
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world war
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ii i mean it was absolutely life and
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death and so
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uh there were many hard-won lessons and
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you know through
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blood sweat and tears literally i mean
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there were people killed as everyone
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knows in world war ii it was
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it was a real you know it was a real
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danger and so many of those lessons were
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very hard won
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and that was the basis of of what we
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went into
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with the cia so we had a great base
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there
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of lessons learned during world war ii
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and built upon those and through the
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cold war and everything it was one of
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those things where we really
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cut our teeth and all of that stuff and
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built all of that out
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and got better and better and better and
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better now i’m
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specifically discussing the operations
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end of things which is
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operations means those are the guys out
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overseas
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doing espionage doing the covert action
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doing all of those things that
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you read about when you talk about
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spying and so
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that cadre of people it’s it’s like
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every other business in the world
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and when you get really good at it as
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you get older
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you bring younger people along with you
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and they start out they have their first
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two or two overseas
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and they have their mentored by the
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older people including the chiefs of
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station
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and so that that depth of experience is
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is how they learn and as i say that’s
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like in any job
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well that is your time i’m just curious
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what years were you in what
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time period uh well i was i was in for
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25 years starting in the 80s
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and then retired you know about 10 years
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ago so
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uh been out for for a while now and
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uh that pipeline of experience is what
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created
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fully capable chiefs of station on the
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back end because they had enough
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experience enough training they were
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good at it
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and you know there are people now within
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the cia i mean if you can read the
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published articles where they talk about
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it where
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essentially because of the new type of
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employee of today that
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people are interchangeable and they go
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in and out and you kind of one size fits
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all you make
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you know if you need somebody to go do
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something give them a two week course
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and send them off
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well the abject stupidity of that kind
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of conclusion is almost hard for me to
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describe
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because this is life and death stuff
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it’s it’s not easy to be good at and so
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you need that pipeline of experience
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where people all they do is operations
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and nothing else so at the end of it
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they’re good
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and the the problem with that is now the
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way they’ve got it set up is
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people like myself as as my generation
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dies off
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that experience that was learned out of
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oss
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and during the cold war and up until
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obama years
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will all die and go away because they
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don’t practice it they don’t teach it
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they don’t learn it
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and and you don’t have that pipeline of
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experience
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that brings in the young people and
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spits out the experienced ones
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at the back end so uh it’s one of those
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things where
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analysts can be chief of station uh you
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might have had an ops tour here there in
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it and
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kind of like i said anybody who does
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anything and and uh
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if you start looking at the criteria for
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example that’s used today it’s it’s
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like i say the the stupidity is almost
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so
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glaring it’s hard to describe but uh if
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you
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if you have somebody who’s got a a phd
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in area studies as an analyst and
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happens to speak the language let’s just
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pick you know
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russia to have a country to talk about
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but it doesn’t matter the point remains
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the same
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but you know if they’ve got a phd in
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area studies and
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are experts on russia and speak the
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language fluently and all of those
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things
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you might look at that person and say
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well they’re perfect to be a chief of
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station
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in russia that’s who should go there
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well but that is completely upside down
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they don’t have the operational
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experience and as a chief of station
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what are they there to do they’re there
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to run operations not be an expert on
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russia
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to be an expert on operations and so
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that’s one of the problems with how
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things are done today so it’s
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it’s it’s upside down in a very
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difficult operating world
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today and what we’ve seen is this
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horrible degradation and capability of
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of of the cia and you know if you’re
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reading the papers at all you’ve seen
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where
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in case after case after case all these
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operations that the cia does
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are getting wrapped up and people are
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getting shot and things like that china
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for example the whole thing is is just a
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mess and it comes out of that you know
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as soon as you
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start to to do away with that expertise
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and operations you’re of course going to
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have problems with operations so
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uh what what what brennan’s theory on
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this was and what he bragged about in an
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npr
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uh interview back when when he was
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director
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was that that essentially we’ve gotten
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rid of espionage we don’t need it
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anymore
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and uh and of course there was a lot of
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pushback over that
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because it was so like i say i just
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wacky stupid stuff i mean very tinfoil
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haddish
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and uh what they depend on and you know
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is dealing with their foreign partners
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so
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if you want to know something just go
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ask your you know some country’s other
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service well you know and of course one
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of the reasons i founded americans for
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public
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for intelligence reform is because first
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of all i want to
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bring back the intelligence community as
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a whole but the cia very specifically
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to its to its greatness to where it was
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before where things actually got done
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and they were
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fully capable of of of going toe-to-toe
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with the world and i mean that literally
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there was a period of time when i early
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early on joined the cia
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where we as the cia you know no bs we
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could go toe to toe with the entire
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world
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all at once and i’m not even counting
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our allies in it i’m just
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we by ourselves could go toe-to-toe well
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those days are
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long gone they’ve disappeared in the
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rear-view mirror we can no longer do
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that
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and i want to go back to that period of
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time and the other aspect of it is
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is that intelligence as we all
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see so clearly today has been
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totally politicized and very weaponized
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and
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just absolute proof case in point is the
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fisa
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scandal where they took this this
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supposedly
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intelligence document called the steele
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dossier that was in fact
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bought and paid for by the hillary
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clinton campaign
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that was presented as intelligence and
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used as an excuse
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to spy on the trump campaign and later
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presidency
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by law enforcement and can we visit them
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for a second
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because there are some angles that i
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think um you want to go into i’m pretty
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sure the
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audience will be interested in as well
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sure um
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who was in charge of
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who was the station chief in i guess
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london at the time
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when we were dealing with christopher
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steele yes well
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famously that’s gina haspel who’s the
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current director of the cia
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who was very close to john brennan now
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uh john brennan i’m going to bring up
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another thing about john brennan
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i have a lot of people on here who are
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body language experts and things like
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that
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and john brennan is kind of like famous
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for being um shall we say kindergarten
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level body language reading when he
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testified and wronged the congress
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on how to see somebody who’s lying i
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don’t know if you’ve seen that
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about the oh we’re not spying on anybody
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i have it’s been a long time ago but
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john brennan uh was
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confronted over it and testified that
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they weren’t spying on congress later
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proof came out
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and he had to go to congress and
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apologize for having done so
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you know why i think kindergarten
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describes him well
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but why was that not um oh geez
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just perjury why was that perjury wasn’t
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he sworn in when he had to testify in
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front of congress
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i believe that’s correct but but you
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know
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the number of people in senior
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government getting away with crimes
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today is just i mean it’s almost a point
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of you know who hasn’t gotten away with
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doing something criminal
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so i i i my answer is yes i wish he’d
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have been punished for that he should
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have been
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funny for it at the very least he should
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have been thrown out on his ear
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okay and i he was certainly wildly over
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his head
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go ahead um i don’t know if i i believe
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it’s
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um oh john thomas picora i’ve had on
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before
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um not necessarily a fan of brennan i’m
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guessing that
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if you were still in you worked with
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brennan at one point or another yourself
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uh i’ve i’ve uh not worked with brennan
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directly myself no i mean i’ve seen him
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speak and been around him and stuff but
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don’t
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i wouldn’t i don’t know him or anything
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of that nature
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okay okay i didn’t know if you had uh
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any run-ins or thoughts on him now
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i’m definitely i’m gonna hijack in a way
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because i know that people are just
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dying
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to know and i’m dying to know you know
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what the hell is going on now
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because i i think that everything has
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been politicized i believe that the
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flynn
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case is kind of where you were going
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with a lot of this right um
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how flynn got essentially sold up the
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river
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uh by well i’ll say biden
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because if i recall joe biden was
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directly involved with
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the logan act correct well
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uh i think the driving force for what
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happened to
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uh general flanin and by the way i i
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treat
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i view the steele dossier
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and the fights and all that is a
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completely separate
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uh the the players behind the scenes
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were the same players
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making the trouble but the cases i
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and at least in my opinion are
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completely separate now on the flynn
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case
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uh the driving force from what i’ve seen
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out of that is in fact
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uh peter strzok who was a
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senior in the fbi ci department
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and initially the fbi uh two fbi agents
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that went out to speak with
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uh flynn came back from that meeting
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saying well you know he just told us
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everything he knew he didn’t lie about
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anything
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and that’s in that initial report and
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peter strzok was the one that said no no
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no hold on because they were just gonna
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cancel the case because there was
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nothing there and peter strzok’s
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is the one that said no no no no we’re
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going to put this back online we’re
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going to go after this guy
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and you know they they kind of invented
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this perjury trap uh
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and what they had actually done is
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uh flynn’s son had had gone into some
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deals that apparently were a little bit
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shaky and not on solid ground
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and so what they basically did is go to
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flynn and blackmail him
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and say you know you plead guilty to
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this and
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uh or we go after your son so i think
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essentially the scenario was that now
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did flynn get totally and completely and
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utterly screwed
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i think there’s just no question
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whatsoever and i think it’s
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well the problem is now the is the
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activism that we see you know
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everybody’s heard of activist judges
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but it’s not just activist judges it’s
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activists you know everybody else out
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there too
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and what we have is activist law
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enforcement as well activist judges
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activists politicians
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activists pretty much every you know
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everyone you can think of prosecutors
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and doj
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and yeah all in journalists most
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especially and of course what does that
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mean an activist judge
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or an activist law enforcement officer
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what that means is they put their
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personal
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political beliefs and their personal
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political perspective
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first and they put the law and the
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constitution the united states of
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america
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second if it’s on the list at all so
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that’s the problem peter strzok
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knew that no law was broken with flynn
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but he didn’t care because his personal
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political perspective
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is what was first and most important and
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uber always i might add that’s the old
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you know an old nazi methodology you
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belong to the party
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you know you don’t you don’t respect the
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laws so
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uh that is what we saw out of out of out
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of peter strzok who brought all this
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back in so then
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it goes forward of course as we saw and
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there was the scandal and he pled guilty
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and
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uh now of course reversed and got
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pardoned and all so that the case is
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essentially over
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why he hasn’t gone hugely public and
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started 25 lawsuits and stuff not being
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a lawyer don’t know but
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i i hope that that that is something
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that he can do and go forward since you
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have the two
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fbi agents who interviewed him who can
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testify
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based on the report that they wrote that
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he had done nothing wrong
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and that peter strzok was the one that
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reversed it so i mean that sounds like a
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awfully good case to a non-lawyer like
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myself
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and i jumped ahead i should have said
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carter page as well
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carter page was the fisa guy right
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correct yeah carter page was the fisa
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guy he was the one
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where you you know and and we’ll
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probably end up talking about the
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italians again but
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the italian service was the one that
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identified mifsud mifsud was the guy
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that kind of kicked all this off
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they were they were essentially trying
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to you know catch
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carter page and trip him up having money
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coming back into the states and
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just kind of this goofy plan that they
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were gonna try to
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try to pigeonhole that guy and blame him
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for being
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why would the italians care about carter
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page
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they would not care about him even
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slightly in any way shape or form
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so this begs the question doesn’t it why
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would they have been involved
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the read the answer is somebody asked
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them to be involved
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so it had to be somebody from the united
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states since it was the italian
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intelligence service
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i think we can very safely conclude
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although i don’t have any evidence of
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proof
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uh the only logical answer to that it
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was was that it was the cia
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so uh certainly we saw the steele
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dossier this supposed intelligence
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document be uh you know obtained and
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pushed out by the cia
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and in fact there is a don’t let’s not
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forget there was a
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a an email from then director
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of the cia john brennan to then fbi
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director james comey
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saying that the steele dossier was the
16:57
crown document meaning
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the linchpin for the information in this
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report was the steel doze
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and that that report was what comey was
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then going to talk about to the
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president united states
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because comey had been saying let’s
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throw out this steele dossier thing
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because it’s crap
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and john brennan was said one that said
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you cannot throw it out because
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essentially without it there is no
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report
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so again one of those things that they
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where they kept saying the
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the fisa document now i’ve read the
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redacted version of it but being
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familiar with stuff like that
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i don’t really need to see behind most
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of the lines i mean i can tell you more
17:33
or less what’s there
17:34
the only document of any consequence in
17:36
that fisa request
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was the steele dossier there wasn’t any
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other evidence
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and that was what was used to obtain
17:44
fraudulently
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a warrant against the the uh
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candidate trump and then later president
17:50
trump so they were spying on the
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president united states based on a
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document
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that hillary clinton wrote up and gave
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to him you know through surrogates
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but i you know all of that is illegal i
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mean there is there’s almost nothing
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in that that’s not illegal and you know
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what happens now supposedly
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uh john durham’s doing a report on that
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but
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you look at that you know what what uh
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uh a.g
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bar attorney general barr said before he
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resigned on christmas
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was that you know don’t expect much out
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of this report this this
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investigation it’s a very small
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investigation of only a small handful of
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fbi agents well uh
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okay let’s take that at face value now
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the problem with that is is is now this
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is something the reason they’re able to
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get away with it is because
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the public doesn’t understand what fisa
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is now don’t need to define it all of
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that
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fisa is a method in which you can take
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intelligence
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and you have a handshake with law
18:47
enforcement and pass it off to law
18:49
enforcement to do something with
18:51
and the problem with law enforcement is
18:53
in trial
18:54
you go to discovery so you have to have
18:57
a wall somewhere
18:58
somewhere there so that discovery does
19:01
not go back into the cia and look for
19:03
intelligence sources and methods
19:05
because theoretically that discovery
19:07
would say well whatever your cia
19:10
asset is your agent and ex-country that
19:12
told you this information
19:14
you have to give us him for the trial
19:17
so this is what fisa is designed to do
19:21
it’s a handshake intelligence
19:24
and law enforcement now understanding
19:26
that how could you possibly conclude doj
19:30
that you’re only going to investigate
19:32
half of what happened
19:34
in this scandal where a fisa warrant was
19:37
obtained
19:38
fraudulently through perjury and fraud
19:42
how could you only look at half because
19:46
also the people who signed and put all
19:47
this in were the providers of the
19:49
information
19:50
so in it it’s inherent in the in in the
19:53
way that this is being
19:55
reportedly done according to a g bar
19:58
uh it’s inherent with that that it’s
20:00
corrupt it’s politically corrupt
20:02
they’re clearly not looking at the
20:04
entire problem or
20:06
it would have to include the
20:07
intelligence that supplied it
20:09
but if they cannot go down that rabbit
20:11
hole politically because where does it
20:13
lead it leads back to the steele dossier
20:15
it leads to the cia
20:17
it leads to the current director of the
20:18
cia it leads to former cia director john
20:21
brennan
20:22
uh it it leads to hillary clinton it
20:24
leads to mi6
20:26
it leads to all these things probably
20:27
the italian service to
20:30
all these cast of characters and so if
20:32
you
20:33
if you go down that rabbit hole you’re
20:35
just gonna have to put everybody
20:36
that was in the obama government in jail
20:39
and
20:40
what if it leads to obama himself what
20:42
if obama is the one that said
20:44
go do all this stuff you guys go attack
20:47
trump
20:48
go get it what if that’s the case and
20:51
apparently you know from what most of
20:52
the people are saying is that this this
20:55
is still to this day being controlled by
20:58
obama himself so
20:59
there’s a too far we’re leaving barr
21:03
behind and i i had a definite question
21:06
about him
21:07
sure so you know i kind of want to stay
21:08
in the you know same realms but
21:11
um just uh over a year ago i believe it
21:14
was
21:15
you or might have been eight months
21:16
somewhere in there but uh on another
21:18
show
21:19
you were interviewed and you were
21:20
talking about how barr put the death
21:21
penalty back on the table
21:24
and had speculated that having the
21:26
highest level penalty
21:29
could um shall we say encourage
21:32
folks who were under the gun to be more
21:35
forthcoming
21:37
well barr seems to have shifted
21:40
over this time and i’m just wondering
21:43
how do you feel now and if you do feel
21:45
differently what happened
21:47
yes um barr did reinstate the federal
21:51
death penalty which
21:52
uh had not was not allowed uh previous
21:56
previous to you know his administration
21:58
of the doj
22:00
and he reinstated it the day after the
22:03
mueller investigation
22:05
concluded i found that timing
22:08
spectacularly interesting it was one of
22:10
those things that i just didn’t see
22:12
how it could be anything other than a
22:13
message but also
22:15
putting a very important arrow in his
22:18
quiver if you will a very important
22:19
weapon to use
22:21
in prosecution thinking that if if
22:24
he were to go to somebody like let’s say
22:26
uh
22:29
yeah okay let’s say struck that’s a good
22:30
example because i think he’s actually
22:32
somebody who’s you know really a wuss i
22:34
don’t think he’s a
22:35
very strong individual and and you would
22:38
not resist
22:39
the uh the fears of not that i would
22:41
necessarily either but
22:42
but i don’t think he would be able to
22:44
resist the fear that would come from
22:45
from being faced
22:47
with uh with a with a federal death
22:49
penalty so
22:50
uh you could go to somebody like that
22:52
and say okay you
22:54
reversed this investigation on flynn
22:56
against
22:57
what the reporting was from your agents
22:59
you know why
23:00
who ordered you to do it why did you get
23:02
into it all that sort of stuff because
23:04
the spanx of treason and if this is if
23:06
we can show your trees and we’re going
23:08
from death penalty or
23:09
do you want to make a deal you know i
23:10
think after he’d finished crying and
23:12
cleaned out his pants he would be happy
23:14
to make any deal they wanted
23:15
so uh i think it was just such a
23:18
powerful weapon because it was pretty
23:20
it’s pretty clear that all through the
23:22
four years of president trump’s
23:24
tenure as president there’s been treason
23:26
time after time after time
23:28
enacted by quite a large cast of
23:30
characters and i think this
23:32
whole fisa thing is nothing’s happened
23:35
and and now bars
23:36
shown the door essentially and why
23:40
i mean if everybody’s hot and heavy to
23:42
go prosecute do you
23:43
understand or know why is nothing going
23:46
on i mean
23:46
who there’s been one lawyer from what i
23:49
understand who pled guilty to
23:51
in texas changing a date on
23:54
oh no changing uh yes to a no or
23:56
something on carter page
23:58
where it was explicitly stated that he
23:59
was working with the cia
24:01
um when he was talking to the russians
24:04
he flipped it to say he wasn’t
24:06
that’s the only one i know of correct
24:08
now i’m not suggesting that they’re hot
24:11
to prosecute
24:12
in fact the opposite when a.g bar first
24:14
came in
24:16
i was very optimistic that he was going
24:17
to try to clean up
24:19
all of this mess that we see uh there
24:22
were a number of things that worried me
24:23
about him
24:24
but i was always kind of leaning towards
24:26
having faith in him
24:28
because i thought he was actually a
24:29
believer in the constitution in laws and
24:31
that sort of thing now i’m
24:32
i’ve reversed all of that i no longer
24:34
give him any of that benefit of a doubt
24:36
the problem i always had with him or the
24:39
worry i
24:39
should say i always had with him is that
24:41
he came out of the bush camp
24:43
he was he was from the bush
24:44
administration and the bush family
24:47
has all hated trump they’re the they’re
24:49
the the
24:51
kind of the rhino uh controlling
24:54
faction of the republican party the you
24:56
know
24:57
mitch mcconnell you know most of the
24:59
senior uh republican
25:02
uh elected officials are all kind of in
25:04
that camp
25:05
and the bush family just they hate they
25:06
hate trump a great deal
25:08
so him coming out of that camp made
25:12
me worry about him a lot but also i had
25:14
faith in him just because i hoped that
25:16
he was actually a believer in
25:18
you know in the in our republic but as
25:21
time has gone on and nothing happens
25:22
nothing happens nothing happens my faith
25:24
has slowly gone down
25:25
until when he made that speech just upon
25:28
retirement where he said
25:29
uh you know there’s no you know don’t be
25:31
expecting something out of this durham
25:33
uh investigation it’s just a very small
25:35
handful of people
25:36
at the fbi only well like i said
25:39
therefore we know it’s corrupt it’s
25:42
politically corrupt because
25:44
you know it to kind of give an example
25:47
of it if you walk into a house
25:50
and find two dead bodies riddled with
25:52
bullet holes
25:53
but you’re only going to investigate the
25:55
death of one and you’re going to ignore
25:57
the other
25:57
you can’t look at that and go yeah oh
25:59
that’s all clean that’s a clean
26:00
investigation and that’s what we have
26:01
here
26:02
they’re coming in and looking at a small
26:03
handful of fbi guys but they’re not
26:05
looking at the overall problem and you
26:07
cannot
26:08
just you know skip everything and look
26:10
at some little tiny sector of it
26:12
and just ignore this the source of all
26:14
of the
26:16
fraudulent material that was used to spy
26:18
on the president united states so
26:20
let me say this just this is unending i
26:23
mean we can sit here for an hour and
26:24
just talk about these sorts of things
26:26
let me give one one more example of it
26:29
and you know i won’t belabor it but
26:30
let’s go back and look at the anthony
26:32
weiner laptop
26:34
that laptop according to james comey’s
26:36
speech
26:37
just prior to the election uh
26:40
james comey came out in a speech that
26:42
the 2016 election with
26:44
hillary against trump and he came out in
26:46
a speech and said well you know this
26:47
thing you know
26:48
hillary was careless but you know nobody
26:51
would prosecute
26:52
this well if you read closely what he
26:54
said in his statement he said there was
26:56
10 or 12
26:57
uh chains of classified documents
27:00
in that on that laptop each containing
27:04
maybe a few hundred classified documents
27:07
okay
27:08
ten or twelve times a few hundred pardon
27:11
me
27:12
one will put you in prison but this gets
27:14
much much much worse
27:16
so you you add all that up and you gotta
27:18
figure well
27:20
let’s say there’s 3 000 roughly
27:22
classified documents in there 10 or 12
27:24
chains a few hundred each
27:25
you know you can call it less if you
27:27
want to but 2 500 to 3
27:29
000 it’s going to be something along
27:31
those lines that sort of number
27:33
he wasn’t explicit now the ig the fbi ig
27:36
inspector general did an investigation
27:39
into this thing
27:40
in their report they went out and spoke
27:42
to the
27:44
fbi agent in seattle that first
27:46
discovered
27:47
this memory in there that had all the
27:49
classified documents
27:51
he told them that james comey had misled
27:53
the american people
27:55
by a factor of 10 as to the number of
27:58
classified documents on that computer
28:00
so according to the fbi this isn’t me
28:03
saying this
28:03
this is right out of the ig report not
28:07
2500 to 3 000 but 25
28:10
000 to 30 000 classified documents in
28:14
there
28:15
now that computer ended up in quantico
28:17
the fbi
28:18
offices there and there was a second ig
28:21
report done there
28:22
in the second ig report they confirmed
28:25
that there’s a second
28:27
large memory of similar size with
28:30
similar numbers
28:32
of content they didn’t open it to see
28:34
what was in there they’re just saying
28:35
there’s the first memory with 25 to 30
28:37
000 classified documents
28:38
there’s a second memory they didn’t look
28:40
up at of a similar size
28:42
with a similar number of documents so
28:45
reasonable to conclude that there is the
28:48
possibility
28:50
of as many as 50 to 60 000
28:54
classified documents on that computer
28:57
and as you correctly pointed out
28:58
it only takes one to go to jail there’s
29:00
lots of people sitting in jail
29:02
for one classified document and so we
29:04
have maybe
29:06
60 000 classified documents on it
29:08
nobody’s looked at it
29:10
nobody we don’t know what’s out there
29:12
the chinese have it
29:13
the russians have it but we don’t look
29:16
at it to see
29:16
well the russians learned this out of
29:18
this classified document so
29:20
holy cow we better fix that and the
29:23
chinese learned this out of that
29:24
classified document and holy cow we
29:26
better fix this
29:27
that has never been done i mean that is
29:29
stupid beyond belief
29:31
and it’s it’s politically total
29:34
corruption i mean it’s total corruption
29:37
and that’s
29:37
doj and fbi one major question on that
29:41
okay please how many documents did alder
29:44
james have
29:47
oh boy yeah you’re going back a ways uh
29:51
i think he was indeed caught with
29:53
documents but it was far less than that
29:55
i i
29:56
know for the fact i know where i’m going
29:58
yeah i
29:59
have one of the worst spies in history
30:01
outside of robert hansen
30:03
i’m willing to bet and i could be wrong
30:05
i’d have to look it up but
30:06
what are the odds that if you take all
30:08
the documents that both robert hansen
30:10
and alder james smuggle to the russians
30:14
they’d be less than that number i i
30:17
don’t know
30:17
and i’m not sure that in the public
30:19
arena that is known but i would be
30:21
uh i would i would almost certainly
30:23
think you’re right that it’s going to be
30:24
less than
30:25
than as many as 60 000 documents you
30:27
know 60 000 documents that
30:29
that’s a whole hell of a lot of stuff
30:31
and
30:32
some of that was nsa some of that was
30:34
cia
30:35
some of that was state department so you
30:37
know again i
30:38
i it’s their election of duty
30:42
not to at least have gone through all of
30:44
those things
30:46
to see what was exposed to the russians
30:48
in chinese
30:49
so you can go do something about it
30:50
that’s dereliction of duty
30:52
also it’s political corruption because
30:55
nobody’s getting prosecuted out of it
30:57
now
30:58
i’m not saying necessarily hillary
31:00
clinton is guilty of this
31:02
don’t know but i guarantee you the
31:04
police
31:05
every day of the week can go to anthony
31:07
weiner and say
31:08
anthony this is your laptop i have 60
31:12
000 classified documents on this now
31:14
somebody’s going to jail
31:16
so if this is yours you know you’re
31:19
going to jail for the rest of your life
31:20
if if you knew these were all on there
31:21
or if you just happened to get them
31:23
where did you get them now very likely
31:24
they came from his wife
31:26
uh uma who was uh you know hillary’s
31:29
assistant
31:30
so uma was she spying for the muslim
31:33
brotherhood
31:33
were there just documents she had
31:35
helping hillary i don’t know
31:37
now again i’m i’m out on a limb here
31:39
kind of assuming stuff it’s speculative
31:41
on my part
31:41
matter actually because it doesn’t
31:43
matter
31:44
yeah but you go to her and say here’s 60
31:47
000 classified documents
31:48
are you going to jail for the rest of
31:50
your life because somebody’s going to
31:51
and she’s going to you know she’s going
31:53
to talk i mean does she want to go to
31:54
jail a relatively young woman
31:56
for the rest of her life and each one of
31:58
those is individually illegal
32:00
so you know even if you’re only
32:02
sentenced to a day per classified
32:03
document
32:04
times sixty thousand that’s a long damn
32:06
time
32:08
yeah it is okay i have a question from
32:10
the um
32:11
from the chat here brad do you think the
32:14
seventh floor is in bed with the biden
32:16
administration or would you say it’s
32:17
divided
32:20
the seventh floor what the question is
32:22
referring to is the leadership of the
32:24
cia that’s the top floor of the building
32:27
and so that’s where leadership resides
32:29
and uh
32:30
where the executive dining room is
32:31
located and all that good stuff
32:33
uh i would say that that probably
32:36
being in bed with the biden
32:38
administration is an understatement
32:40
i think uh they’ve sold their souls
32:42
wholeheartedly
32:44
i don’t think there’s my personal
32:46
opinion is that i think you’d be
32:47
hard-pressed to find anybody there
32:49
that’s honest
32:50
by the standard of most patriots
32:54
uh i think they’re mostly what i have
32:56
previously described
32:57
as activist intelligence officers
33:00
that they put their politics first
33:03
versus the
33:04
national security issues that they
33:06
should be focused on which as i said
33:07
again
33:08
is one of the main focuses of americans
33:10
for intelligence reform
33:12
uh and if you look at the things that
33:14
we’ve been talking about for example
33:16
if indeed it’s true that gina haspel the
33:19
director of the cia
33:21
was in london and was involved with the
33:25
steele dossier and was involved with
33:27
setting up president trump
33:28
and was involved in these in this uh
33:31
fisa warrant that was obtained
33:33
fraudulently and then through perjury
33:35
if she is guilty of all those things if
33:36
she was involved with all those things
33:38
uh she would be in a desperate desperate
33:41
battle
33:42
to make sure that that trump was was
33:45
thrown out of office
33:46
through any means whatsoever uh
33:49
i mean that’s a big deal that’s far
33:51
beyond being in bed with with
33:52
biden okay while we’re on her can you
33:55
clear something up
33:56
there there’s rumors out there and
34:00
that she was somehow caught in germany
34:03
with servers true or false
34:07
well i i mean i i don’t know for a fact
34:10
but i
34:10
i’m uh almost certain that’s false i
34:14
mean i would put it in the
34:16
99 range that that’s false i mean i’ve
34:19
heard that she was
34:20
killed in that shootout that she was
34:21
wounded in the leg that she was taken to
34:24
gitmo
34:24
that she’s under arrest i’ve heard all
34:27
sorts of things
34:29
now my understanding is that someone did
34:31
go in and get those servers or they did
34:33
go in and look at them
34:34
who did it and what they did with it you
34:36
know funny we’ve never heard anything
34:38
about that i don’t know
34:39
uh supposedly it was the military
34:42
which who specifically did it you know
34:45
hasn’t really surfaced so i don’t know
34:48
uh the shootout individual i flat don’t
34:50
believe i don’t think that took place
34:52
the people i know who are you know would
34:54
know have said no that didn’t take place
34:57
uh so i i don’t i don’t think that
34:59
happened i don’t think
35:00
i think gina hassel’s just fine you know
35:03
i think she’s
35:04
though right the director of the cia i
35:06
would never think would actually go on
35:08
an operation somewhere else i mean don’t
35:11
they have people
35:12
with that can do that for them yes they
35:15
do
35:15
they do but it would be visiting a
35:17
facility and they do visit facilities
35:19
they do go overseas and see the
35:21
stations and go talk to foreign
35:22
dignitaries and things like that so
35:24
for her to travel is is perfectly normal
35:26
within within the realm of what
35:28
her duties should be so i mean it would
35:31
not be that hard for her to be
35:32
at a facility overseas it’s just this
35:35
shootout stuff and all of that i i
35:38
i find it uh just very unlikely my
35:42
personal opinion of the reason that that
35:43
has come
35:44
out so often is i think it’s a
35:48
distraction
35:49
and i think it’s to take away uh
35:52
people’s attention from the other things
35:54
that are important going on
35:55
and i’ll know just there’s a couple
35:57
things like day before yesterday
36:00
there was a report that the pope got
36:03
arrested for covering up
36:04
uh pedophile and you know he was faced
36:07
with 28 charges and all this stuff well
36:09
that turned out to be
36:10
you know hokum and there was maybe a
36:12
week ago there was this report on this
36:14
biden ranch in ukraine that was raided
36:18
and it was this
36:19
money laundering center for biden and
36:22
his brother and his
36:23
remaining son and you know there’s
36:26
nothing that’s ever come out of that
36:27
either i mean i saw the
36:29
the the news reporting on it and i found
36:32
it
36:32
wow you know interesting if it’s true so
36:35
i mean there’s a lot of stuff out there
36:36
being reported that’s pretty wild
36:39
my opinion is is that this is an effort
36:41
by the left
36:42
to put out all these wild stories
36:45
because it creates
36:46
this level of noise that’s deafening out
36:49
there
36:49
so the reports on the voting machines
36:52
the reports on the on how the election
36:54
was stolen and all that just kind of
36:56
fades into this uh array
37:00
of wild stories that are out there and
37:03
and that’s how the left is kind of
37:04
creating confusion
37:06
and detracting from these stories with
37:08
that that actually have a chance of
37:09
being true
37:11
well this is where i definitely was
37:13
headed right from the beginning
37:14
because you know i definitely want
37:16
history and everything but um
37:18
robert barnes who’s been on the show
37:20
many times he’s done viva barnes
37:22
and also with rich barris and barnes
37:24
they might have mentioned before
37:26
had it perfectly summarized in this
37:29
question
37:30
essentially how do disinformation and
37:33
psyop campaigns work
37:35
how do you stop them and is q anon one
37:40
well we’ll start with the last one first
37:41
q anon i don’t know i’ve i
37:44
really have never looked at q anon it
37:46
was something that kind of came up well
37:47
i was
37:48
still overseas so i just wasn’t exposed
37:50
to it
37:51
after i got back it wasn’t anything that
37:53
really hit
37:54
you know uh my radar pardon me
37:58
how long how long has it been around
38:00
then i thought it only come about at
38:02
past couple years
38:03
i think wasn’t it uh out of the clinton
38:05
years because of the
38:06
podesta stuff and the pedophilia and all
38:08
of that now i might be mistaken that was
38:10
i think i think it spun out of pizzagate
38:13
somehow but i’m not sure
38:14
yeah the pizzagate is the pedophilia
38:17
ring the
38:17
story whenever that began i i don’t
38:20
really know didn’t look at it
38:21
and uh the i’m more of a national
38:24
security intelligence all that sort of
38:25
stuff is kind of more my focus
38:27
so uh those sorts of things to kind of
38:29
straight up really evil criminal things
38:31
aren’t kind of my bag but uh
38:34
so don’t know so i really don’t have
38:36
that much information on cue
38:38
i’ve gotten things from people who say
38:40
they’re with cube but how do you know i
38:42
mean my understanding of it is that it’s
38:44
a very horizontal sort of
38:46
very general group of people i don’t
38:47
know i’ve heard
38:49
there is somebody at the center of it
38:50
that was former intelligence and things
38:52
like that i
38:52
i just i don’t know and have never
38:54
really tried to find out
38:56
so i don’t know talk in it or not
39:01
well i think there’s a lot of
39:02
information about the pedophilia ring
39:05
that’s very convincing so in that sense
39:08
i think that’s true
39:09
the fact that there’s people out there
39:11
that are very interested in getting that
39:13
sort of
39:14
information out to people is probably
39:17
very accurate i i would assume
39:19
i mean if i knew that about a group of
39:21
people i would want to put that out
39:23
you know to the police or whoever would
39:25
act on it
39:27
but i i will say that that movement is
39:30
very
39:31
interesting now this is a bit
39:32
controversial so uh forgive me in
39:34
advance but
39:36
we’ve seen the lgbtq community
39:39
also begin to tentatively include uh
39:43
the the pedophilia movement and there’s
39:46
been a thing about no pedobashing and
39:48
they’re starting to put up those signs
39:50
and there’s been talk about including
39:52
the pedophiles in that group so that
39:54
they’re not
39:55
there’s no prejudice used against them
39:58
and those sorts of things and
39:59
you see their signs put up it’s of a a
40:02
rainbow and a man and a boy holding
40:04
hands kind of
40:05
the silhouette of them holding hands
40:06
walking away
40:08
or something yeah namla is uh yeah
40:10
something like that any rate it’s a
40:12
man boy love pedophilia organization
40:15
whatever don’t know
40:16
and like i said not really my thing but
40:18
i you know just see this stuff going on
40:20
now
40:21
looking at it from the propaganda
40:22
perspective and
40:24
how things are going it is a defense
40:27
for the those organizations now that’s
40:29
interesting that that springs up kind of
40:31
at the same time where
40:32
q is targeting them and i’ll have to say
40:35
if the
40:37
gay lesbian transvestite whatever
40:39
community starts including
40:40
pedophilia in there they’re going to
40:41
destroy themselves because uh the
40:43
american public
40:44
you know i you know and i’m the same way
40:46
i don’t care if you want to be gay be
40:47
gay but if you want to include
40:49
pedophilia in that you know
40:50
then i think you belong in jail that’s
40:52
that’s wrong and
40:54
uh we’ll see how that pans out but i
40:57
think they’d be
40:57
enormously stupid to include pedophilia
41:00
as part of their
41:01
protected classes within this long list
41:03
of groups that are involved anyway your
41:06
question earlier on was about the
41:09
misinformation disinformation the
41:10
propaganda campaigns and all that
41:12
it’s very difficult i mean the russians
41:15
and the nazis were the ones that really
41:16
perfected it the nazis early on and
41:19
the russians took what they’d learned
41:20
out of them and they also captured
41:22
some of the gobel’s people out of the
41:24
nazi party and used them to help build
41:26
their own propaganda
41:27
and so it’s something been used by the
41:28
left and perfected picked up here
41:30
in the united states out of the
41:33
stalinist
41:34
regime’s uh practices and all and it’s
41:37
something that’s been taught so it’s
41:38
very
41:39
it’s it’s very effective it’s a very
41:40
mature program and it’s it’s hard to
41:42
fight against
41:43
uh i think what we need to do is just
41:46
stick with
41:47
as as much as we can with just pushing
41:50
back with the truth and
41:51
most people particularly the patriots
41:54
who want to know
41:55
most people know the truth when they
41:57
hear it they know it when they see it
41:59
so it’s one of those things where we all
42:01
see these the liberals and the
42:02
progressives and the communists and
42:04
socialists that’s all one thing
42:05
we see them go into these long
42:07
complicated explanations of why
42:09
something
42:10
is really this other thing and it’s
42:12
nuanced and you have to understand and
42:15
you know i most people recognize a bs
42:18
artist when they hear one and that’s
42:19
you know you get somebody starting to
42:21
wave their arms well you need to
42:22
understand all this
42:24
that’s what bs sounds like so it’s one
42:27
of those things that i think that’s part
42:28
of the reason the american public
42:30
got so tired of this and voted in trump
42:33
and
42:33
in a in a sizable uh you know majority
42:36
of
42:37
you know the way the electoral votes
42:39
were and
42:41
i think that’s the same thing that
42:42
happened this time because i think
42:43
everybody’s sick of it
42:45
and i think that that the this
42:48
attempt to shut down all discussion like
42:51
i mean let’s face it once biden gets in
42:53
your show the things i do
42:56
uh mark levine louie gohmert
42:59
uh rush limbaugh if he survives which
43:01
will
43:02
i pray for that uh all of these all of
43:05
us if you will are going to be under
43:08
attack all the time
43:09
now they’re going to start at the top
43:10
and work down it’ll take them a while to
43:12
get to smaller programs and smaller
43:14
personalities like
43:15
i guess i would include at least myself
43:17
i don’t know how big your audience is
43:19
but
43:20
but still it’ll take a while to get to
43:22
us but it’s coming i mean
43:23
they’re not going to allow it because
43:25
why because
43:27
the progressives liberals socialist
43:29
communists that group of people
43:31
they their messages cannot stand up to
43:35
scrutiny
43:36
they cannot stand up to actual honest
43:40
public debate
43:41
of issues they just cannot do it because
43:44
their messages are so hokum
43:46
so you you and and i will say too if all
43:48
of this is kind of true what i’m laying
43:50
out where you see all these
43:51
weird stories coming out and uh this
43:54
this
43:54
very well-planned
43:58
attempt to crush parlor
44:01
to silence trump on twitter to start
44:04
taking down all these twitter feeds of
44:06
all these people james woods famously
44:08
gets
44:09
attacked all the time now my twitter was
44:11
never huge but
44:12
uh i had 10 000 followers on twitter and
44:15
it slowly whittled down a little bit got
44:16
to nine
44:17
and then overnight i lost 2 000 and
44:20
again another two days went by another
44:22
night went by and i lost another
44:23
thousand i mean it’s just
44:25
like this overnight it’s kind of you
44:27
know not very realistic to think that
44:29
that’s how it actually works on three
44:30
different occasions on
44:32
twitter i noticed once i hit 10 000
44:34
followers i was going up very fast
44:36
once i hit 10 000 followers i just
44:38
stopped
44:39
and suddenly mine goes down 500 or
44:42
something like that and i thought well
44:44
heck so i actually sat down and i sat
44:47
down and went through my list of 10 000
44:49
followers
44:50
to see if any of those 10 000 followers
44:52
had dropped off
44:53
i found i think a dozen that had dropped
44:56
off but my numbers dropped by 500.
44:58
i did that three times just to be sure
45:00
so every time my numbers would drop by
45:03
400 500 because i would build it back up
45:05
and then it would drop by 700.
45:07
so three times i went through and looked
45:08
and every time i went through and looked
45:10
and i sat there and went through all 10
45:12
000 just to see
45:14
you know to know myself and i would
45:19
you know what are they going to say oh
45:20
yeah we’re so sorry we’re screwing you
45:22
no no no i i meant um for example
45:26
my friend viva fry has had
45:30
viewers complain i got unsubscribed
45:34
i didn’t unsubscribe somehow i gotta
45:35
subscribe to your channel
45:37
what happened so i didn’t i didn’t know
45:39
if there might be anything like that
45:41
going on
45:43
no i don’t think it’s worth my time to
45:44
complain i i think they would just run
45:46
me in circles and not do anything
45:48
because
45:48
i didn’t mean twitter i met the people
45:50
like justice yes people would say
45:52
oh did you unfollow me
45:56
mostly they didn’t unfollow me like i
45:57
said if if i dropped
45:59
700 followers and i went through and
46:02
looked
46:02
the actual people that dropped me were
46:04
only say 10 or 12.
46:06
so where did those 700 come from
46:09
you know they weren’t people actually
46:10
dropping me it was just my numbers were
46:12
going down
46:13
so i think you know clearly it’s just an
46:15
attack out of twitter
46:17
and you know it’s the same thing i mean
46:18
facebook twitter
46:20
youtube anything google you know it’s
46:22
all going to be a problem in the long
46:23
run
46:24
i think we all need to start to harden
46:27
our communications and our ability to
46:29
share these shows and programs and talk
46:32
because it’s all going to come under
46:33
attack it will all come under attack
46:35
and i think biden is going to take the
46:38
brunt of it he’s going to do a lot of
46:40
that early on
46:41
because his time is limited he’s not
46:43
going to be present for very long
46:46
true now um
46:49
i am curious on that i mean you’re
46:52
connected
46:53
somewhat is there anything going on with
46:55
biden or
46:56
is everybody exaggerating that no no
46:59
he’s senile
47:00
um i mean you know i’ll get criticized
47:03
because i’m not any sort of medical
47:04
personnel
47:05
and not a doctor and all that but
47:06
mancini i mean you know
47:09
we’ve all seen it in our older relatives
47:10
and friends and things as it takes in
47:12
there and
47:13
the memory starts to go and he’s not
47:14
sure where he is not sure what day it is
47:16
forget stuff
47:17
you know you hand him his car keys and
47:18
he looks at you and says where’s my car
47:20
keys
47:20
uh not that they let him drive anymore
47:23
but it’s
47:24
it’s it’s clear i mean it’s clear i i
47:26
would i you know
47:27
i’ve i’ve debated it around with
47:29
different friends and
47:31
uh uh you know we’ve discussed the
47:33
amount of time i’m personally predicting
47:35
that he’ll be president for six months
47:37
or so i’d be very surprised if he went
47:39
past one year
47:41
because he’s just not mentally capable
47:43
you know he’s not going to be able to
47:44
and it’s a process that deteriorates uh
47:48
and it’s it’s just one of those things
47:49
where they’re not going to be able to
47:50
keep it up very long
47:52
and we’ve seen his wife during the
47:53
campaign be his handler and
47:55
we also he would like before the debate
47:58
uh
47:58
you know he would just go away for a
48:00
week and try to get rested up and
48:02
probably they had him on you know
48:04
serious doses of
48:06
of meds that kind of counteract that and
48:08
let you be normal for a couple hours
48:10
and uh and go out and do the debates and
48:12
then come back and he would disappear
48:13
again while he rested up after that and
48:15
i mean there’s a lot of indicators that
48:17
that’s true and even kamala harris
48:20
in the primary where she was running
48:22
against him she herself said the same
48:24
thing
48:24
so i mean it’s it’s you know i don’t
48:28
i have personally never heard anybody
48:31
democrat or republicans say
48:34
it’s not true he’s not seen now i
48:36
personally have never heard anybody say
48:38
it
48:39
i mean i’ve heard people say oh no
48:40
biden’s great he’s wonderful he’s going
48:41
to be great at this or that or the other
48:43
and if you go is he senile they’ll go
48:45
brighton’s great you know
48:46
that that’s their answer they’re not
48:47
going no he’s not senile you know
48:49
i i’ve never heard anybody actually deny
48:52
the senility
48:53
so i you know i’m personally like i say
48:56
i predict six months or so
48:58
for as president i was wondering about
48:59
that if it would be a case that
49:01
he would be in long enough so it’d be
49:03
longer than william henry harrison
49:05
so got to give him more than 31 days so
49:07
he won’t be the shortest president
49:09
actual term in history but
49:13
was that the goal is i mean oh yeah i do
49:17
feel like that a lot of people
49:20
and i don’t know if i’m reading it wrong
49:21
but i’m just going to go by polls and
49:23
outcomes and people dropping in and out
49:24
but
49:26
kamala harris did not seem to be the
49:28
most popular candidate in the world
49:31
judging by the voters in the primaries
49:33
i’m speaking about the democrats
49:35
and she dropped out relatively early but
49:38
yet
49:39
the press and other folks seem to really
49:42
really really really like her
49:44
was she kind of injected i’m just
49:46
curious your thoughts
49:49
i mean i think personally it was all
49:50
negotiations behind the scenes
49:53
i think the uh
49:56
obama former president obama is
49:59
basically running everything
50:01
and really yeah i think so and
50:04
uh i think everybody recognized
50:08
everybody recognizes i mean you hear
50:10
democrats openly discuss it
50:12
that an openly hard left person who’s
50:15
clearly socialist
50:16
communist progressive like i said those
50:18
are all the same thing but
50:19
anyone that’s clearly openly hard left
50:22
is not electable in the united states
50:24
because the united states as a whole you
50:26
lose a lot of even the democrat votes if
50:27
you come out and say oh yeah i’m a
50:28
socialist
50:29
so uh like bernie sanders could never be
50:32
elected in the general election
50:33
neither could any of neither could kamal
50:35
or any of those other people
50:36
so they had to pick somebody that was
50:38
actually electable somebody that they
50:40
could move more towards the center
50:42
they all knew biden was senile they all
50:45
knew they were gonna have to take him
50:46
out as president fairly soon after being
50:48
elected
50:48
but he was electable he was somebody
50:51
that they could defend
50:54
as having been legitimately elected and
50:56
he’s been around for everybody everybody
50:58
knows his name all of that
50:59
so now i think that the charts that you
51:02
see where the voting
51:02
things go up and then suddenly biden
51:04
votes could go up and up you know 10 000
51:06
votes and then continue along i mean i
51:08
i i argue that that’s where the the
51:11
cheating took place
51:12
uh so i don’t think biden actually won
51:14
but at least that gives the
51:16
fig leaf to the democratic party to say
51:19
oh no
51:19
you know he’s popular he was
51:20
legitimately elected and if it had been
51:22
kamala harris
51:24
everybody would have known it’s a lie so
51:26
if it had been
51:27
bernie sanders everybody knows it would
51:29
have been a lie so
51:31
uh here now only half the people know
51:33
it’s a lie and
51:34
everybody would have known it was a lie
51:35
before so i think they really wanted
51:37
kamala they really wanted hard left the
51:39
mainstream media the democratic party
51:41
they’re all
51:42
very hard left and they wanted somebody
51:45
who’s in line with what obama
51:48
is which is hard left and i think that’s
51:51
kamala this was the compromise put biden
51:53
in
51:54
get him out after six months or a year
51:56
and nancy pelosi has already been
51:57
talking about the 25th amendment to
51:59
remove somebody mental incapacity all
52:01
that
52:01
a lot of that’s being discussed and how
52:03
it would be implemented and all of that
52:05
i think even what she’s doing right now
52:07
is a dry run
52:08
uh she was trying to force pence to do
52:10
it uh
52:11
for like i and
52:15
it’ll be a question of whether biden
52:16
will willingly resign
52:18
or do they have to use the 25th
52:19
amendment to get him out either way
52:21
he’s gone now look at it from obama’s
52:24
perspective
52:26
everyone says now there’s a lot of
52:28
information out there that the plan was
52:31
that eventually michelle obama would
52:34
become president
52:35
what better way to usher in michelle
52:38
michelle obama as president
52:40
than paris
52:44
kamala harris i mean that’s the perfect
52:46
way on the heels of her
52:48
vp yeah on the well on the heels of her
52:52
she could pick
52:53
michelle’s vp or whatever it doesn’t
52:55
matter but you have a black woman who
52:56
ends up being president
52:58
then it’s not a big deal for another
52:59
black woman to run for president
53:01
so i think from their perspective they
53:02
look at this as win-win-win
53:05
okay so i guess let’s wrap it up on that
53:09
because you essentially
53:11
are stating that you do think something
53:12
was wrong
53:14
with the election or many things were
53:16
wrong with the election you’ve made that
53:18
pretty clear
53:19
um very recently general mcinerney and i
53:23
hope i’m saying it right or mckierney
53:27
i don’t know how to say his name but
53:29
lieutenant i think it’s mcinerney too
53:30
but i could be wrong as well
53:32
i’ll go with mac and erie and and
53:34
blaming you all right fair that’s fair
53:36
i get a lot of blame already anyway so a
53:38
little more
53:40
perfect he was talking about
53:43
servers in italy and
53:47
stuff can you tell me what’s what is
53:50
going on
53:50
and is that in fact something real
53:54
it appears to be and you know we’re
53:57
we’re all faced with one inherent
53:58
problem and that is
54:02
getting these things in front of a judge
54:04
because you know
54:06
even even if i had proof here on
54:08
photographs and a piece of paper of
54:10
anything illegal
54:12
it’s getting it in front of a judge that
54:13
makes a difference and that’s been
54:15
turned down everywhere by
54:16
activist judges and all the way up to
54:18
the supreme court where
54:20
texas and 19 states sued because they
54:23
felt that the
54:24
the the election they didn’t follow the
54:26
rules
54:27
and they were changing illegally the
54:29
rules because it required
54:30
legislative action to change the rules
54:32
in those states and that didn’t take
54:34
place
54:35
so they said it diminished their right
54:36
and and the supreme court basically
54:39
refused to hear it because they said no
54:40
standing so
54:41
this is what we see happening over and
54:43
over giuliani
54:45
has uh videos and affidavits
54:48
and studies that show that where they’ve
54:51
gone through for example
54:52
went down the voter rolls compared it
54:55
against the death certificates
54:57
and found like 7 500. so 7 500
55:00
dead people voted in certain states and
55:03
it’s all
55:04
on paper it’s black and white it’s proof
55:06
but they can’t get a judge
55:08
to accept it in a court case to do
55:11
anything with it
55:12
so i mean that’s the inherent problem
55:14
it’s the same thing with this italian
55:15
stuff
55:16
i’m pretty sure this stuff is true but
55:19
so what you know
55:20
uh giuliani’s sure that that stuff he’s
55:23
god’s true too
55:24
it but it doesn’t do anybody any good
55:26
unless you can make it part of a court
55:27
case
55:28
that a judge willing is willing to hear
55:29
and they’re just not so
55:32
but the basic outline of it is this that
55:34
um
55:36
the the the algorithms that were set
55:39
were already in place through these
55:41
voting machines in these five or six key
55:43
states
55:44
the algorithms got broken because trump
55:46
broke all records for voting if you look
55:48
at how he did
55:49
in 2016 he broke all the records so his
55:53
voting was
55:53
much higher than expected so at night
55:57
they shut down all those all accounting
55:59
and all the machines and everything just
56:00
got shut down
56:02
so that took place simultaneously in
56:05
those states
56:06
so at that point they were all hooked up
56:08
to the internet
56:10
the information on the votes was sent to
56:12
the
56:13
servers in germany and then from there
56:16
over to italy where there was uh where
56:18
they were waiting in the embassy in rome
56:22
to manipulate the information and
56:24
there’s photographs of a couple of guys
56:25
that are supposed to be
56:27
data scientists who were at the embassy
56:30
then
56:31
uh to manipulate that data and for
56:34
example now photographs are out there
56:35
but
56:36
nobody’s trying to find them to talk to
56:37
them okay
56:39
and the man that was supposedly at the
56:41
embassy it’s come out is a guy named
56:43
stefano serafini that’s the us american
56:46
citizen
56:47
u.s official at state department who is
56:50
at the embassy
56:51
that supposedly put this whole plan
56:53
together at the operation end of things
56:56
and he retired the day before the
56:58
election
56:59
so that he could go back to the united
57:01
states and avoid losing his pension and
57:02
those sorts of things
57:03
so don’t know if it’s true but how hard
57:07
would it be to have an ig inspection and
57:08
find out
57:10
you know not that hard but why isn’t it
57:14
being done i mean it’s
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how hard would it be just to go question
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that guy and find out now of course
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he’s retired so you can’t force him to
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do it uh but there’s other people around
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that you could talk to that would be
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able to speak to those things so
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uh the operation center is there the
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data scientists are there they rewrite
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the algorithms
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they change the data then it’s uplink
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via it’s it’s encrypted uplinked back
57:37
through this
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satellite that’s owned and controlled by
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fernando
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spa at spa is just like saying
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incorporated inc
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so fernando this this huge uh
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contracting company that’s partially
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owned by the italian government
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then goes through the satellite back
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down to the servers in germany and then
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back into the machines
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and everybody’s seen those lines where
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you have the red line and the blue line
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going
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red lines ahead red lines i had red
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lines ahead it’s kind of like growing
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the gap a little bit
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they shut down all the machines they
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turn it back on
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and boom that line goes up that was the
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data dump that came back down from italy
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where the numbers were suddenly up and
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then it continues up and
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biden stays ahead the rest of the way
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that was the change of algorithms and
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that was the change in total votes
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and that’s where we see for example why
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when they got the ballots they separated
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the paper ballots
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from the envelopes what’s proof of the
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vote being valid
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it’s the envelope so that’s why they
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separated
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and this has been decried by everybody
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it’s been out in the press forever
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but nobody points out the importance of
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it up for this
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and that’s why those votes were
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separated they took the envelopes threw
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them away
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and kept the ballots so all you had was
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the ballots
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then when they had to change numbers
58:56
like for example there’s been the video
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everybody’s seen it on tv it’s all over
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the news of that box of ten thousand
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ballots being pulled out
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you know from nowhere it was carried in
59:05
and all of a sudden they add ten more
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thousand
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vote of votes in so when they do the
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recounts
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mostly they’re just recounting the
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machine they just run the numbers off
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the machine again and the machine gives
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it to them
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of course it’s going to give them the
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exact same thing even if they count the
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ballots
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all you have is the ballot all you have
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is a piece of paper with stuff
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with a vote marked on it you don’t have
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the envelope
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that shows it comes from a valid person
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so those 10
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000 ballots for example that were
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videotaped suddenly being included in
59:34
the votes
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where you got this blip up for biden
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were just prepared in a box there was no
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envelopes with them
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they’re thrown into the mix and suddenly
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the numbers of the ballots and the
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numbers on the machines match
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so that’s that’s the game plan that’s
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probably how it played out that’s
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probably how it was done i mean
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like i said but this is can only be
59:53
speculative on my part because
59:55
we need to prove i mean there’s people
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there’s been a judge and a lawyer and
59:59
affidavits that
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in italy that are coming out saying this
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is all true
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this is exactly how fernando spa did it
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there’s an employee of fernando spa
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saying yeah i changed the data i’m the
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one that did part of this
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well you know okay that’s great
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you know you cannot look at this and say
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there’s not pretty conclusive evidence
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because
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if there’s a guy at fernando saying yeah
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i did it
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well why is that not evidence if there’s
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a judge saying yeah this is how this
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case all handled you know there
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they manipulated the votes back in the
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united states
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uh why is that not evidence but you see
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that’s the inherent problem we have all
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these
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activist uh prosecutors at doj we have
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the
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activists at fbi and leadership now you
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go down the totem pole far enough you’re
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going to find just normal people but
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at the leadership levels that’s the
60:47
inherent problem they’re all activists
60:49
they don’t want to do it and they’re not
60:51
going to do it and so
60:53
all of this proof and evidence that’s
60:55
out there just sits there
60:56
and that’s where we find ourselves today
60:59
and if there were more time
61:02
maybe trump could have done something to
61:03
turn this around and win it but
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uh there’s just you know november from
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early november till now
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until being sworn in in january there’s
61:11
just not enough time to fight your way
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through all of that and and that’s
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that’s
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that’s the prop problem trump has had
61:17
plus he’s been surrounded by people who
61:19
end up betraying him
61:21
and certainly the the old blue blood
61:24
republican
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largest faction of the republican party
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you know hate him
61:29
and uh and so we’ve seen them betray him
61:31
left and right and i think certainly
61:33
it’s it’s just it’s funny to me some of
61:36
the reporting where
61:37
uh after fox news reported that after
61:40
four years of loyal service
61:42
trump throws vice president uh
61:45
pence under the bus where you know the
61:48
actuality of it is that pence decided
61:50
not to try and help
61:51
trump show all this illegality and so
61:54
because what was it what was the idea
61:56
the idea was pence was supposed to
61:58
force a situation where the evidence was
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going to be looked at
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he wasn’t going to overturn anything he
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was gonna force the evidence to be
62:07
looked at
62:08
and he declined to do it so who threw
62:11
who under the boss
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and i gotta say newt gingrich who’s the
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old blue blood you know republican party
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kind of guy
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coming out and saying that pence showed
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a profile of courage
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i mean i personally found that
62:23
you know a disgusting display and that’s
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not a profiling courage
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what’s wrong with forcing the situation
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such that the evidence
62:31
gets its day in court what’s wrong with
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that why is that
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bad why does it make you courageous to
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stop that
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i think it’s the opposite i think he was
62:39
a coward i don’t think he wanted to take
62:41
the political heat for it
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i think he wants to run for president in
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2024
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and that’s why he declined to do it to
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support
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president trump who legitimately has
62:51
concerns i
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i i i can’t believe i mean if you’re a
62:55
democrat and really love biden and want
62:57
him to win no matter what you don’t
62:58
care about anything else okay fine you
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know that’s not a
63:02
position based on reason that’s just
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what you want
63:05
any person who looks at this and is
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reasonable
63:08
who wants to actually know
63:11
should want this to have its day in
63:13
court you should want to have this
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evidence looked at
63:16
let’s see if that list of dead people
63:19
against the list of people who voted
63:21
is true let’s see if that list of people
63:23
that moved out of the state
63:25
and are voting in that state but yet
63:27
were recorded voting here as well
63:29
let’s see if that’s true and let’s add
63:31
all that stuff up
63:32
and if it overturns the election well by
63:34
god it overturns the election
63:36
let’s take a look at those voting
63:37
machines why have those voting machines
63:39
not been inspected by anybody
63:41
why what you know if it’s a true and
63:43
honest
63:44
election that should be open to all of
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us
63:47
we as citizens have the right to know
63:50
that this was a fair election
63:52
so why does this stuff not get its day
63:54
in court i mean that really is the
63:55
question why is trump
63:57
not getting his day in court and i it’s
63:59
just it’s a travesty of justice i mean i
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don’t
64:02
as i say i think history is going to be
64:04
very harsh
64:05
if we ever are able to write history
64:07
again in a
64:08
truthful fashion which if we’ve lost the
64:11
ability to have fair presidential
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elections in the united states
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then it won’t matter the democrats will
64:16
be in power for at least a generation
64:18
and it’ll always be a senate and house
64:20
and president
64:21
that’s a democrat okay you kind of have
64:23
said this already but i
64:25
i i always want to make it a point if i
64:27
have dissent
64:28
or you know people are saying oh no hell
64:30
no whatever
64:31
what do you say to somebody here who has
64:34
uh
64:35
commented a bunch if you will
64:39
um this is just false information
64:43
well how does he know he doesn’t know
64:46
because he’s never had his day in court
64:48
i cannot prove it’s all true but he
64:50
cannot prove it’s all false
64:52
because when was it examined in court
64:54
when is it all brought out
64:56
when was it proven to be true or proven
64:59
to be false
65:00
and the answer is it never was so
65:03
anyone who says it’s false is basing
65:05
that on what they want
65:06
they want it to be false i okay you can
65:09
make the argument that i want it to be
65:11
true
65:11
but i you know i believe i believe it to
65:15
be true
65:16
but what’s you know how do you prove
65:18
that the way you prove it is to take it
65:19
to court
65:20
and let it be proven in court and and go
65:22
through the system where you have
65:23
standards of proof
65:24
you have standards of evidence all of
65:26
those things to be represented by
65:28
lawyers on both sides
65:30
and you find out what’s true and to that
65:32
whoever that individual is that keeps
65:34
saying this is false this is false
65:36
you know you don’t know that’s a lie to
65:38
say it’s false because you don’t know
65:40
that
65:40
because it hasn’t had its day in court
65:42
if you want it to be false
65:44
great just say that you know you don’t
65:46
believe it
65:47
that’s one thing but if until it gets
65:50
its day in court which
65:51
may not ever uh nobody knows and
65:54
like i said the things i’ve seen i
65:56
believe are true but for example
65:58
just because i’ve seen the list that
66:00
shows all these dead people
66:03
uh you know against the death reports
66:05
who were on the voter rolls
66:07
and showed that they voted i saw those
66:10
things
66:11
i believe them to be true but those have
66:13
not been
66:14
tested in court where you have all those
66:16
standards of evidence that they have to
66:18
go through
66:19
and that’s why i want to i really
66:22
honestly think we all deserve to see
66:24
that
66:24
we all deserve to find out is is it an
66:27
honest election
66:28
and until that stuff gets examined you
66:30
know with those standards of court
66:33
we don’t know okay no
66:36
i said that i’d be closing out with that
66:38
but i lied sorry i’ve got one more
66:40
this just came in no i i i forgot about
66:43
this but it’s super super important
66:45
because people are going nuts on it
66:47
okay is the rumor of trump invoking
66:51
something called the insurrection act of
66:53
1807 allowing him to remain
66:55
president until this is looked into
66:57
properly even a possibility and i think
66:59
this is important because
67:01
you know just saying okay i’m staying in
67:03
office hell with everybody that’s
67:05
kind of a pretty scary um concept
67:09
well certainly if the question is is a
67:11
possibility yes it’s a possibility but i
67:13
think it’s a very distant one i don’t
67:15
think it’s going to happen
67:16
uh and talking about flynn that we spoke
67:19
about earlier flynn was
67:20
was pushing for martial law and
67:22
different things
67:23
of this nature and was was really trying
67:25
to talk the president into doing it
67:27
about a week ago
67:28
uh he apparently had kind of a
67:32
not a confrontation but you know very uh
67:35
vociferously
67:36
pushing the president to act on this and
67:38
as a result he ended up getting
67:40
kind of kicked out of the white house
67:41
and apparently hasn’t been back since
67:43
because it was sort of an argument of it
67:44
well
67:45
i take that as as a very strong
67:47
indicator that the president just isn’t
67:48
interested in doing those sorts of
67:50
things so
67:50
i don’t think there’s a chance of seeing
67:52
any of that happen he hasn’t talked
67:54
about it hasn’t shown himself willing to
67:56
consider it
67:57
it is it isn’t something that appears to
67:59
be kicked around within his inner circle
68:02
uh at least that i see or i’m aware of
68:05
not that i’m you know like totally
68:06
hooked into all of that but
68:07
it just doesn’t appear to be anything
68:09
he’s actively considering it
68:11
considering now i understand for people
68:14
for patriots who don’t want to see
68:16
a a president tossed out unfairly which
68:19
certainly appears to be what we have
68:20
here
68:21
that we’re kind of looking for hope and
68:25
i i don’t have any good news on that
68:28
score that i can share
68:29
i wish i did i i just don’t i don’t have
68:32
any i think the president
68:34
on this may be the place to end this but
68:36
i think the president has entered into
68:38
one of those moments
68:39
uh like when caesar back in the roman
68:42
days got assassinated and stabbed by all
68:44
those guys
68:45
and he saw his adopted son brutus and
68:48
said
68:49
to brutus i really i think that the
68:51
president
68:53
has entered into that moment where he’s
68:55
seen himself stabbed in the back by
68:58
secretary of state pompeo who he brought
69:00
from obscurity
69:02
to be the director of the cia and then
69:03
secretary of state
69:05
and his vice president pence and many
69:07
many many others
69:08
mitch mcconnell many others who’ve
69:11
stabbed him in the back over and over
69:12
and i think he’s at that
69:14
at two brutus moment uh realized that
69:17
he’s been
69:18
been politically assassinated by all of
69:20
these people and stabbed repeatedly so
69:23
i think that’s where he’s arrived at and
69:25
he’s looking at this going
69:26
all right i’m going to fight on but not
69:28
as president
69:29
and uh i don’t have the backing to do
69:32
anything
69:34
can he on his way out because i mean i
69:37
think you would agree
69:38
that there’s there’s a lot of
69:40
potentially
69:41
truth that is um that could be revealed
69:47
what about pardoning assange and snowden
69:51
well that’s an interesting thing there’s
69:53
a lot of back and forth on that and i
69:54
i i don’t know i haven’t made up my
69:58
made up my mind i mean i worry about
70:01
snowden in particular because he did
70:03
blow a lot of stuff that was
70:05
that should not have come out in the
70:06
public uh now
70:08
granted the defense of that is that some
70:10
of this was
70:11
looking at uh u.s citizens and so that
70:14
was sort of the cover for
70:16
it but he ended up in the hands of the
70:17
russians
70:19
so i look at that and go snowden i
70:21
probably
70:22
would not assange uh the rumors are out
70:25
there that assange was actually
70:26
at a couple places trying to work with
70:29
uh the department of
70:30
the sec the us department of
70:34
state department i’m sorry to try and
70:36
make sure that certain classified
70:37
documents didn’t get out
70:39
and that some of them were important so
70:41
he was trying to do a process where he’s
70:42
saying
70:43
look this stuff is out there someplace
70:45
people are sending me copies of it
70:46
you need to go check and see what the
70:48
problem is so in the case of assange
70:50
there may be some
70:52
mitigating circumstances with him so
70:53
that might be a consideration
70:55
but let me say one thing about pardons
70:59
now i i do know for a fact that
71:01
president trump does
71:02
like my some of my interviews at least
71:05
and has watched at least some of them
71:07
so if president trump you’re watching
71:10
this one
71:11
do not forget on your way out the door
71:13
before you turn off the light
71:15
pardon yourself because it doesn’t
71:17
matter that you’re not guilty of
71:19
anything
71:20
they are going to go after you in every
71:21
way shape and form that they can
71:23
so make sure you pardon yourself so that
71:27
you block a lot of their efforts to go
71:29
after you just look at what they’re
71:30
doing right now trying to impeach again
71:32
with
71:33
10 days left and all this nonsense
71:35
pardon yourself
71:38
well perfect that’s a great place to
71:40
wrap it up
71:41
and people can find you at
71:45
intelreform.com or org uh it’s
71:48
americans for intelligence reform at
71:51
intelreform.org
71:53
perfect perfect and that’s your central
71:55
place you also have a channel
71:57
which is under brad johnson and it’s
71:58
blowing up folks so
72:00
get it early so you can say you’re one
72:02
of the early people before
72:04
completely um ballistic and i’m on
72:07
either
72:07
under brad johnson or americans for
72:09
intelligence reform on
72:11
twitter on facebook on youtube on tumblr
72:13
on
72:14
uh parlor uh gab
72:17
i’m at it all over the place you’re on
72:19
tumblr
72:20
yeah yeah yeah
72:24
you know why it posts there
72:25
automatically so it was easy to do so
72:27
what the heck
72:28
oh i’m on bit shoot too i’m on a lot of
72:30
these places
72:31
all right well thank you very very much
72:35
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4 responses to “Unstructured’s Eric Hunley interviews Brad Johnson on turbulent times”

  1. Gloria Avatar

    Many thanks, but please note that the correct name of the Italian company is Leonardo ! You said Fernando!

    1. paul osteen Avatar
      paul osteen

      The former name of Leonardo was Fernando.

      1. Gloria Avatar

        Founded in 1948 under the name of Finmeccanica….The final step occurred on April 26, 2016: Finmeccanica became Leonardo. A name chosen in honour of Leonardo da Vinci…
        You can check it here: https://www.leonardocompany.com/documents/20142/101046/A_Legacy_Leading_To_The_Future.pdf/cb335a92-1626-11d9-8361-d7ea34abeb8e?t=1562577017592

  2. Caroline1880 Avatar
    Caroline1880

    Did President Trump pardon himself and his family before leaving office?

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